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No threads about the best fighting game of the current generation?
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tekken 8 when
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not to 2023 from what I’ve been hearing
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SamSho what?
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Tekken 7 is a predictable follow-up to a series that’s never aimed particularly high, it may please casual gamers for a day or two but the stagnant ongoing series is definitely in the second tier of fighters way below Capcom or NetherRealm Studios games, and it’s seriously getting old and tired. The lack of depth and subtlety and the emphasis on the offensive, rather than the defensive, puts this squarely two notches below the best in the genre, the shallow gameplay leaves much to be desired from a serious fighting game player. Like the prequels, Tekken 7 is geared towards casual gamers and anyone who’s been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, DoA and MK games have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can’t seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their super move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don’t even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it’s more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!
If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea…. Key word, might.
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Bloody Roar 4 is a predictable follow-up to a series that’s never aimed particularly high. Fans of fighting games may appreciate it since it does offer more than a dozen different characters to play around with, and some of the character designs are actually pretty appealing. Still, this one can mostly be recommended only to those who really like fighting games, in general, or to those who are looking for a casual, anime-style game to play with like-minded friends.
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That’s a lot of words… too bad I’m not reding ’em
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is this the helix fossyl
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>tekken below any mortal kombat
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>"Tekken is not a complex game, most of its techniques can be performed by button mashing"
– Harada, lead developer of Tekken>"Tekken’s fanbase comprises of casual players"
– Harada, lead developer of Tekken>"We made a special effort to ensure T7 is accessible"
– Harada, lead developer of Tekken>"Long time fans have said this is the easiest Tekken ever"
– Harada, lead developer of Tekken>"TEKKEN IS REALLY HARD ITS THE MOST COMPLEKS GAME EVER STOP LAUGHING REEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING STREEET FIGHTER ITS NOT FAAIIIIRRRR"
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They never said any of that.
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>Harada:
>Tekken is not a complex game, you can play the game easily by button mashing, if it was complex it would not have sold as many copies as it did>Saint:
>Street Fighter V is harder than tekken 7>Rangchu:
>Just mash it out and get that win
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>tekken and mortal kombat
Magic shit is fucking retarded, fuck ranged attacks, fuck Kamehamehaa rip offs, fuck power ups.
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The movement in 3D fighting games always ruined for me, the characters move like they shat themselves and are trying to keep the log from falling down their pants
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it takes some time getting use to senpai
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>is a Bamco character
>design fits in Tekken
>can use fisticuffs and bone spikes
>already has two outfits that can be used in customization and a usable item (piece of wood)
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closeset we’ll get is scv customization and thats because they had the model from ther eboot
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>design fits in Tekken
In your deviantart fan-fiction perhaps.-
no, in actual tekken too. Maybe the gorey transformation is tad much but he is otherwise just a brolic dude with a mask and jean shorts (reboot).
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well, I guess he isn’t a million miles from Gigas
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>>design fits in Tekken
stopped reading right thereNo thanks.
based and redpilled, if there’s any department where the game can be unnecessarily convoluted it will find a way to be, it’s ridiculous, one of the jankiest, most obtuse games I’ve ever played
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too edgy for you? There’s already characters that can turn into a devils and emit chainsaws
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yes but they’re anime/90s edgy, especially with the very pointy ends of the character and the tribal tattoo, that guy looks like he could be a decent mob in darksides if anything
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i mean turning into that seems pretty anime to me but it’s just grotesque. if they nerfed the flesh a little I can see it working but besides that, they could just stick with the original design
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Literally just uninstalled this shit about an hour ago. Ranked is full of people who never rematch if they lose. The game constantly crashes. Netcode is still dogshit. Launches still guarantee 50% life.
No thanks.
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>Ranked is full of people who never rematch if they lose.
People always rematch meThe game constantly crashes
>I play pc and never have this.>Netcode is still dogshit.
Yes, but use a pc with ethernet havent run into to many problems.>Launches still guarantee 50% life.
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I don’t like tekken 7 anymore
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>I don’t like tekken 7 anymore
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my main (Eliza) doesn’t ever get the buffs she needs to be viable and gets nerfed more often than not
DLC characters are too strong and too easy
combo damage is too high and their only solution was to add 5% more scaling and give everyone 5 more health
they’re steadily decreasing the emphasis on movement in a 3D space
they make balance changes around what the top 1% of players say with no regard for the other 99%-
how do you convert off ff3,3? I know you can get stuff but I forgot what
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you need to be slightly off-axis to the left but you can get a d3 xx qcb+1
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also if you’re willing to spend meter you can do d3 xx qcf+2 f3+4(MG)~3,4
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I find Eliza one of the most fun characters but she’s not my main so I forget her stuff as I rarely play her. Her divekick combos are genuinely my favourite combos to do in any fighting game-
yeah she’s a lot of fun to play but her execution requirement to damage output ratio is just fucked.
almost nobody else in the roster has to work as hard for damage as she does
her divekicks are the source of her max damage combos so it’s good that you like doing them, plus the mechanical skill of being able to tiger knee inputs like that will translate nicely to other fighting gamesman why cant we talk about a game we enjoy without the thread being overrun by pasta and shitposts
because of autism
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woah that’s a cool combo, I thought all you could do after 4 divekicks was dash 1 dash 1 ff3,4 S! MG3,4 and those dash jabs are very tight
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>Eliza
>not viable
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yeah, she’s not
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>"character specialist" greenie thinks his character is bad
wow
>ugh why won’t they buff my wallsplatting d4 into tech trap death combo i fucking guessed right on them trying to block my untouchably evasive +block mid launcher
Literally what the fuck is she missing? She’s got good homing moves, good punishment, bullshit combos, good tech setups, bullshit lows, good mids and crazy vortex on top of her 2D bullshit
Arslan puts her in mid tier. Lowhigh puts her in mid tier. Knee puts her in top 20. What are all these players missing?-
>wallsplatting d4
d4 does not wallsplat. not even on counter hit
>evasive +block mid launcher
does not exist
>bullshit lows
you mean garbage lows
>d3 is -5 ON HIT and only a Clean Hit guarantees anything from it
>d4 is 20 frames (reactable as fuck), doesn’t get anything on hit, and is launch punishable
>3+4 is 33 frames and launch punishable. good if it lands but good luck landing it on a skilled player
>good mids
ONE good mid and it’s d/f+4
>b+1,2 is -13 on block and so is the follow-up 4 which can also be sidestepped on reaction
>2,2 xx DP2 can’t be hit confirmed so you have to assume one of the 2s will land or just don’t do DP2
>d/f+3 is reactable and -6 on blockare you starting to understand? she’s mid-low tier because hardly anything she has is safe. she’s high-risk low-reward the fucking character and the only reason she does good online is because nobody knows the matchup
and nobody knows the matchup because nobody fucking plays her, and nobody fucking plays her because she has dog shit frames
just because (You) either get trashed be Eliza players or pub stomp holiday shitters doesn’t mean she’s a good character
and this doesn’t even mention how much harder she has to work for those "bullshit" combos when any other character can shit out that much damage with so much ease.
Yeah, she has good tech. great tech, even; but that isn’t anywhere near enough to carry her to competitive viability.-
yeah yeah post rank greenie
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I dropped the game shortly after reaching Genbu prior to the TGO update.
>20 frames (reactable as fuck)
Not him but holy shit LOL, you’re delusional dude>does not exist
I think he means divekick, which is a evasive mid launcher that lets like +5>I think he means divekick, which is a evasive mid launcher that lets like +5
divekick 3 is only a launcher on counter hit and is otherwise -9 to -10 on block
divekick 4 is can only be a launcher if you get a borderline frame perfect instant air which is simply not easy to do.
and getting a divekick 4 that close to the ground still leaves you open to getting jabbed out of it, it’ll only evade lows
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>Greenbu
Yeah I knew it
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I’m still waiting for any sort of counter argument.
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Why bother? You’re a middle-of-the-curve player going up against every current tier list and if that’s not enough to make you stop and think then there’s nothing I can tell you.
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>who cares if every good player disagrees with me im still right!
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>every good player disagrees with me
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>mid tier is unviable
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obviously saying she’s unviable was an exaggeration you sperg. I was just mad that she wasn’t getting the attention she needed.
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>i-i was just joking! I was just joking twice!
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>joking
didn’t say I was joking, retard. just that it should have been an obvious exaggeration from a disgruntled former player
either way, you still have not refuted any of my counter arguments after I addressed yours.
You had actually brought up some real points at first, misguided and uneducated yeah but still some actual points.
were you not expecting to get into it with someone that actually plays and understands the character?
or what about that Fujin Eliza that replied to you saying she’s low-tier. is Fujin greenie territory now?
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>why wont you le debate me?
Because your rank shows your lack of perspective. There is nothing I can say to try and explain anything to someone who thinks 20 frames is ‘reactable as fuck’ because you might as well be out of your fucking mind for how little you understand about the system. I’d have the same results trying to explain to a Dan why throws are reactable or snake edges are seeableUnless you’re going to try and tell me you were ‘exaggerating’ there too.
>is Fujin greenie territory now?
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While rank might somewhat be indicative of perspective, it still isn’t an entirely accurate metric for a player’s knowledge of the game, their character, or their opponents characters.
At any point a player could just stop playing ranked and continue playing quick play for however long they fancy. If they stopped playing ranked at, say, Vanguard but continued to play then their knowledge will inevitably exceed what’s expected of their rank.
I’ve played against yellow ranks that were better than some Purple and Gold ranks.
So it’s very well possible for a low rank to know their character inside and out but the reason they’re a low rank is because they don’t know the characters their opponents play; and in a game like Tekken 7 where every fight is a series of knowledge check, your knowledge is almost directly proportional to your fighting ability. -
What you’re saying is true, but between the camps of
>low rank player with good potential, a willingness to learn and a decent grasp on the fundamentals but fails due to lack of experience, bad matchup knowledge and maybe shaky performance
>low rank player who is just shit
I’d say the guy who says 20 frames on a low is reactable as fuck and argues that any character below A tier is unviable is part of the latter category>So it’s very well possible for a low rank to know their character inside and out but the reason they’re a low rank is because they don’t know the characters their opponents play
Honestly, just in my experience, the better someone is at their own character while remaining entry-level at everything else points towards being in the latter category as well. Most Kazuya Hermits, flowcharters, """tech gods""", etc. are just as guilty of trying to play their own game and will eventually hit a hard limit on what they can do. -
>So it’s very well possible for a low rank to know their character inside and out but the reason they’re a low rank is because they don’t know the characters their opponents play
Honestly, just in my experience, the better someone is at their own character while remaining entry-level at everything else points towards being in the latter category as well. Most Kazuya Hermits, flowcharters, """tech gods""", etc. are just as guilty of trying to play their own game and will eventually hit a hard limit on what they can do.So between a Hwoarang specialist who knows everything he’s doing inside-and-out vs a Paul sub who knows what *I’m* doing I’d definitely be more wary of the latter.
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Totally, my point is just that you won’t be able to tell that the Paul knows what you’re doing by rank alone; since at any point a player could just stop playing ranked.
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AK is easily A tier this season
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Eliza is low tier
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>20 frames (reactable as fuck)
Not him but holy shit LOL, you’re delusional dude>does not exist
I think he means divekick, which is a evasive mid launcher that lets like +5-
>tekkucks are literally such slow in the mind retards they cant react to a 20 frame move
LMAO, holy fucking shit you casual fucking retards are embarrassing.
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>d3 is -5 ON HIT and only a Clean Hit guarantees anything from it
Literally just clean hit, this is like saying akuma’s d3 is shit
>d4 is 20 frames (reactable as fuck)
Lmao
>good mids
>ONE good mid and it’s d/f+4
>>>d/f+4
Jesus fuck green ranks have better takes. Instant divekick 4 is her best mid
>2,2 xx DP2 can’t be hit confirmed so you have to assume one of the 2s will land or just don’t do DP2
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>Literally just clean hit
not consistent enough in online and even then the only thing it guarantees is DP2
>Instant divekick 4 is her best mid
True, I forgot about that and was only considering mid normals.
Still she can be jabbed out of it and even a jab trade will still lead to a more favorable outcome for the opponent
>and pressing another 2 after buffering the dp motion?
show me a video of this because I don’t think that can be done.
it doesn’t have an actual hit-confirm window like other hit-confirmable moves in the game
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This single tweet was the most fun i’ve had with tekken in ages. The guy who calls the shots in the game literaly doesn’t understand his own game. No wonder characters like Leroy get greenlit.
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Launches always rekt your shit in tekken, except for tekken 4. Hell in ttt2 armor king would literally exit the screen and give your whole family his Jaguar bbc if he launched you.
It’s part of the franchise. Rounds are short and launchers destroy you. Everything else you said is understandable but high damage did not magically appear out of the blue. -
Literally the only people who ever dodge are the faggots with TTV in their names. I guess it’s because I’m a shitter and they don’t want to stream anticlimactic matches, but they’re still cunts.
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>Ranked is full of people who never rematch if they lose.
fucking this. Can’t even begin to count the times when I was down a game, winning the next one only for them to bail out immediately afterwards. Forced FT3s when?-
no one owes your ugly ass a rematch fag.
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true, but i’m still curious as to why you’d only want to rematch when you win
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>one and doneing is OK because… it just is OK?!
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tell me you’re a shitter without telling me you’re a shitter.
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>FT3
Nah, I’d rather have a bunch of faggots losequitting than removing the ability to deathmatch which is the most fun aspect of ranked mode.
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Are you using wi-fi? People will 100% leave if you are on wi-fi.
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It’s too old for a rushed ps4 game, Harada must focus on lore
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I played T7 religiously since launch and even i’ve lost interest. Waiting for 8.
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It’s terrible
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and SFV is better?
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I quit because I was to good.
god omega geese chad checkin in.
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>i play pc and never have this
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I use to hate on harada for not making T7 crossplatform, but after seing that awful ps4 netcode, I dont want those fuckers within 1000 feet of me.
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>When your game is so shallow some random literal who wins your world tour event button mashing with a joke furry character.
>When your game is so shallow some random literal nobody from pakistan randomly shows up and beats all your best players at EVO by button mashing
>When your game is so shallow even the developer says he made the game for button mashing casuals
>When your game is so shallow a heathstone player can reach high ranks by mashing 1 button for 2 weeks
>When your game is so shallow a washed up smash baby can beat all of your high rank players and get to high ranks in a week
>when your game is so shallow a random NRS furry can pick the game up and beat all your best players
>When your game is so shallow a 4 year old can beat high ranks by mashing buttons randomly
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proof of any of this, or typical Ganker dribble drabble
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So she DIDN’T win the match?
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obviously not but that doesn’t make for good shitpost material
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>a washed up smash baby
stopped reading here, smash chads never wash
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I could never get into Tekken for some reason, seems the game just doesn’t flow for me
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When your game is such a shallow casual button masher a 25 year series veteran gets utterly BTFO by a gay button mashing NRS furry who only been playing the game a few days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tbnTFY3Upo-
WHAAAAT how!!???
Someone explain to me how someone whos been playing tekken for 10+ years as a career gets beat by a random!!?? please!!-
because tekken is a casual shallow party game made for children and requires no skill to play unlike most real fighting games.
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real fighting games like Smash? what a fag
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I downloaded kekken to see how how hard EWGF actually was. I was literally able to do it on my very first try consistently with very little effort despite never playing a tekken game before, its very obviously not a 1f input, not only that but you dont even need to be precise with the inputs as the game has both an input buffer and lenient inputs (similar to SF4) people claiming this move is hard is quite literally the biggest meme in all of fighting games.
I guess tekkens player base really is just full of casual retards who cant actually do basic DP motions.
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>hype the most casual game ever done
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Anon me too but a low tier player (a friend of mine) btfos me and the rest of my friends.
I even learned ewgf and spins in 30 minutes.
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GO suck Leffen’s dick smash babby
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If the other guy presses 1 at any point you don’t get to do any of that. If you mash all 4 buttons it’s always a 1 break.
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Still requires more inputs than any Smash ‘combo’ lmao
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Woah dude just pick Yoshi and win EVO
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I mean look at this shit. How is this any fun? And people wonder why nobody plays their dead genre
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>Rage, uses rage drive, last 35 damage isn’t guaranteed, ff3,2 is -14 on block iirc while ff3 is only +1 on hit and not hit confirmable. And of course it’s all linear and death on whiff.
It’s not like it’s an easily accessible and safe tool that wins you the game.
Paul’s df2 on the other hand….
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Don’t care, still playing Soul Calibur 6 instead
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>tekkucks claim "KBD" takes "years to master"
>literally just took me about 20 seconds to master it after playing the game for the very first time
>its LITERALLY just a dumbed down and easier version of short hopping
>exact same movement exists in multiple games including DoA
LMAO, people really try to shill this casual garbage while pretending its hard, its like the only people who play it are casual retards who have never played another fighting game and have zero frame of reference and just live in complete ignorance.-
my main issue with it is that it’s literally a glitch from the 90s that they didn’t bother to fix and it stayed in the gmae because… it makes the players feel better about themselves? I don’t know, seems fucking stupid to me that you have to do such movement just to go backwards a little bit faster
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its not a glitch its common in almost every 3D fighter and even some 2D games, tekken retards just try to claim its somehow unique to tekken or that its hard when its not.
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As someone with 50 hours in Tekken 7, I stand corrected.
I honestly thought it was a complex fighting game, that required years of dedication but after watching mainmanswe get bodied by sonicfox that mk11 player, I’m reconsidering.
I dont even think sonicfox had ever played tekken before that to.
What fighting game should I play? someone help me out.-
Play DoA
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is it alive on pc tho?
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No, its fucking dead, but play it so you have some comparison against the hypocrisy of """"""""""""FGC pros"""""""""""""
MK11 is pretty good too
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>someone makes tekken 7 thread
>every single tekken pasta shows up
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I’m not seeing anything about SUPERIOR LIMB BASED COMBAT
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hey if tekken pros are getting beat by people who have never played the game, I dont blame the pasta people, when tekken is this insane lie spread through the FGC; that its the pillar of complexity.
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>tekken pros are getting beat by people who have never played the game
This never happened, not will it.-
see
When your game is such a shallow casual button masher a 25 year series veteran gets utterly BTFO by a gay button mashing NRS furry who only been playing the game a few days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tbnTFY3Upomainmanswe gets beaten by sonicfox, an MK11 pro who had only been playing tekken for less than a week at the time.
NRS games are always joked as being the most casual gamer bait on the planet, able for anyone to pick up and do good, yet here we are.-
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In the off chance you’re not baiting, I’ll tell you why that’s ridiculous
>mainman is not a tekken pro
>mainman is notorious for not learning how to fight characters he doesn’t like
>sonicfox is the GOAT of exploiting lack of matchup knowledge, plays character mainman hates
>sonicfox is also arguably the fighting game GOAT
>basing your conclusions on false premises and a fucking 3 bar match
And that’s not even half of it.
I hate everyone involved in this, including myself.-
>mainman is notorious for not learning how to fight characters he doesn’t like
Listening to him whine about Yoshimitsu while getting buried by him was delicious
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>sonicfox, an MK11 pro who had only been playing tekken for less than a week at the time
he’s been playing tekken since 6
he was a zafina main
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Even the games developer says tekken is a casual button masher lmao
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What the fuck are you smoking the game has both story mode AND other single player modes, also the gameplay itself is extremely shallow and casual.
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if you call that unfinished piece of shit and bowling a story mode and single player content good for you, I have standards
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>I have standards
You dont, otherwise you wouldn’t be playing tekken.-
in fact I dropped it
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thread over guys, the fucking copypasting autist is here
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>tekken
>No vertical play at all, dont want to have to deal with something like crossups in baby games like tekken
>Severely diminished horizontal play, no footsies, no neutral, just model to model take turns hitting buttons
>Footsies and spacing doesn’t exist because baby mode side step
>Extremely slow attacks to make side stepping easier and even more brainless because tekken babies are literally braindead and cant react to even the slowest attacks
>No archetypes or playstyles, everyone plays the same
>Dial-a-combos because links are too hard for tekken babiestekken is literally just japans version of mortal kombat, the only difference is NRS actually took steps to try and turn MK into being a competitive game while tekken remained a casual low skill button masher.
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samsho reboot but cant really play online so rip
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What DLC should I buy?
It’s all on sale on Humble (except the newest stuff) but it feels like too much to buy all of it.
I was thinking about Season pass 2 the most.
Anybody have favourite DLC Chars?-
nigga if you on pc you can just add the dlcs by using notepad
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how friend?
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not that guy but just search creamapi or auto creamapi
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literally type tekken free dlc in google
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Nubi, do your job
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Even Max knows the game is casual garbage
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>He says while shilling Strive
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I can’t imagine how sad the life of the resident tekken shitposter must be
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dead thread, dead game
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man why cant we talk about a game we enjoy without the thread being overrun by pasta and shitposts
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no one enjoys tekken
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I enjoy Tekken, and you clearly don’t, so why shit up the thread?
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>paying money for literal clone characters with reused moves
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>recycle animations for 3 decades
>no budget
I swear I don’t know what the fuck they’re doing thereI enjoy Tekken, and you clearly don’t, so why shit up the thread?
because it’s my right to shit on a game I don’t like, fuck off faggot
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get a life dude lmao
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>favourite game get shat on
>can’t take it cause he’s a little faggot
>g-get a life b-bro
as embarrassing as tekken-
you sound upset KEK
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Even the "pros" say tekken 7 is shit and made for casuals lmao
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Every single tekken thread proves success breeds jealousy. Keep crying, shitters.
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what success the game dead and completely out done in every possible metric.
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All fighting games are dumbed down for baby now. Skullgirls is the only modern one with any depth that’s playable online. Other than that it’s just the same 15 year old shit on fightcade. Bring back mvc2.
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still mad that tekken is shit and that people shit on it?
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lmao literal kusoge
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fucking garbage
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stuck on vanguard AK, any tips?
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uninstall and play a better game
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name a better game, im waiting.
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yeah play jin or king
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Throws are your best friend. Nobody breaks them consistently until Emperor.
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currently emulating Tag 2 and its so much better
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To anyone who doesn’t think Eliza is viable, you’re an idiot. Absolute bottom tier characters are viable, and Eliza is mid tier at worst.
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tekken is a casual button masher with zero depth or complexity.
the sooner you step up and play a real fighting game they better
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>He doesn’t main the anime waifus
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>playing button mashing kusoge aimed at casuals and children
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>Playing Tekken
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Why do I need to learn some autistic tech skill just to do the simple action of moving backwards. Soul Calibur mops the floor with this game for this very reason.
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false flagging tekkuck trying to pretend bog standard basic back dash cancel that’s in most fighting games is hard
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literally just hold back or do a regular backdash
the KBD is there if you want to backdash FASTER and won’t be necessary until Ruler ranks, or otherwise long after you will have dropped the game anyways-
The moment your opponent realizes you can’t KBD he will pressure you to death as it’s so goddamn easy to call out sidestep attempts in 7. You cannot play this game without learning KBD first. NO EXCEPTIONS.
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meanwhile some literal whos from pakistan beat all of the "best" players by just button mashing and never so much as touching back in any form
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proof?
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We get it, anon. You’re salty Akuma won another tournament while having never played against one yourself.
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>less than 2k players
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Ganker doesn’t play fighting games, it just wants to shitpost about which fighting game requires the sickest inputs and never shows up when lobbies are actually being hosted
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maybe because they all sucks excepy for smash wich is just fun and easy to pick up and doesn’t require thousands of hours of labbing.
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getting good at anything requires a huge time investment. if anything tries to circumvent that time requirement then it’s just not worth investing time in to begin with
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lol you are right and thats why tekken and sfv are blow 2k players right now. It’s not worth the effort. Glad we agree
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tekken is and always will be a casual button masher made for casuals who cant play real fighting games.
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yea thats why all the people who have never touched a fighting game in their lives play smash
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>thats why …. (proceeds to cope)
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its literally the most popular fighting game, or nintendo game played by drunken frat bros who play call of duty.
Literally every dorm has a switch and a copy of smash-
I was refering to never touched a fighting game but nice spergie. Fighting games aren’t fun. Especially if one knows even slightly more than the other. There are no surprises or cool outplays. Smash has so much more going on it’s not even comparable. Shit even dark souls pvp is a better fighting game than any of the current trash on the market
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>I was refering to never touched a fighting game but nice spergie. Fighting games aren’t fun. Especially if one knows even slightly more than the other. There are no surprises or cool outplays.
lol>Shit even dark souls pvp is a better fighting game than any of the current trash on the market
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its not hard to learn fighting games.
The fortnite, call of duty, and MMO generation has rotted your brain.-
nobody cares why would I even want to learn your dead fucking games retard. There is no fun to be had here at all and I’m sure as fuck don’t want to go to some local smelly converntion just to be able to play with someonea after wasting half my summer playing against an imovable cpu.
People want to learn while they play not be an autistic retard in the lab
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I only labbed on king for like 4 hours and I’m green rank, and moving up while learning.
You just are lazy, incompetent and suck.-
>green king
Daring today, aren’t we?
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sure buddy me and everyone else is the problem not you and your dogshit games lol. Maybe you should take your meds
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I have played Tekken 7 for 600 hours. I’ve spent 20 hours in like 3 years in the lab, tops. Granted that I really play only one character, I spent those 20 hours learning how to use an arcade stick properly because it was my first time learning one.
The rest of my game knowledge comes from playing people and watching the most fun tournament matches. I know little to no fucking frame data and I’m in Genbu with low ass tier Armor King. I can’t KBD for shit. The game is still fun.
You have preconceptions about what the game is and how it is to play it and you’re projecting your lack of experience onto others and behaving like it’s a fact. It’s not. Fighting games are made to emulate martial arts. And like in martial arts, everyone has a different journey and background.
If you want to spend 90 hours in training mode to hone a particular skill and you find it fun and rewarding, go for it. If you wanna learn by playing, also go for it.
The truth is that it’s going to take you a shitload of time before you reach any degree of competence in the game anyways, so the choice of how to get there is entirely up to you.And no, the game isn’t even remotely dead, it’s a 1vs1 game. Which means there’s only one motherfucker in your same continent that needs to be queueing for you to find a match in a reasonable lapse of time.
God forbid you act sociable and make friends with someone you’re fighting, you can even message them and ask them to spar for fun.Regarding events, I never went anywhere to play offline. I had a friend who played sometimes before covid hit, but that’s it. That hasn’t reallt left me alone fighting CPU, I can just start the game and fight someone whenever I want.
If you don’t play a game don’t talk about it like you know anything about it. Just shut the fuck up or give it a shot, retard.
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holy shit dude have a nice day
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So you wasted 600 hours of your time with no training mode, never trying to improve, got to a shit rank, and now act like an authority on the game?
>Fighting games are made to emulate martial arts
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>wasted 600 hours
I had fun in my free time for 600 hours. I could value eating shit off the floor and do it for 8000 and your bitch ass would have no business telling me if it was a waste of time or not, I can do what I want with my life.
>no training mode
What kind of psycopath labs 5k moves? I just learnt my character’s moves and then go into matches and try to see if something is -10, 12, 13 or 15 and learn using that method. Worst case scenario I fuck it up and my shoulder or hopkick gets blocked and I take some damage or lose a round, best case scenario I just learnt the frame properties of that move without having to use training mode.
>shit rank
Nice bait, but I’ve been around ranked games for decades and I’ve never seen any rank not being called a shit rank except for the very highest rank in that game-in which case it’s called a virgin rank. Yeah probably anyone can get to red ranks, but last time I saw the data, only 20% of players worldwide even get there. That doesn’t make me a god at the game, but it does put me above 80% of the people who play ranked while playing a character that is rather easy to counter and has no momentum and is quite bad for the "ranked climbing meta".
>Act like an authority on the game
I feel like if you spend a few hundreds hours doing something you get to at least fucking say your opinion to someone who got 0 hours in, don’t you think?
>Fighting games are made to emulate martial arts
Yes retard, it’s literally in the name. There’s even tournaments, money matches, sparring, training camps and a literal training mode. It’s a simulation of a 1vs1 sport.
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Videogamedunkey, played Tekken 7 on kuma with the mindset to just have fun.
He hit red rank or higher not sure, with his own unique playstyle.
He didn’t stress himself out and lab for 50 hours, but instead just played people.
Anyone can pick up fighting games with the right mindset, tired of this fps dude bro generation.-
you also need to consider the fact that nobody knows how to play against the bears because of how infrequently they’re played.
so that combined with the bears’ janky hitboxes (meaning most combos either won’t work or need adjustments to work) equates to easy wins at almost any rank
that’s why Rangchu won that one tournament with Panda.
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armor king is not low tier
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AK has got significant buffs and he’s better than he’s ever been in T7, but don’t fool yourself. He has horrible matchups against pretty much every popular character for various reasons.
FF,n,2, the stone cold stunner, df2 and b1 being good can’t override that. I originally wrote a long ass post with every single shitty matchup AK has, but it was boring and way too long, so let’s just say that there’s a significant chance that you will play against a character who either straight up counters yours if you pick AK.
The only guy using him right now is JDCR because that motherfucker can predict the unpredictable and can whiff punish things that no man on earth can whiff punish. But if we had an offline scene with Pakistanis he would get his ass kicked by players of his caliber for even touching AK.pvpsa -
AK is only bad against characters with i14 ws launchers and i guess kuni
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Not him but he also has shit range and tracking on a lot of his regular tools and poor whiff recovery so he’s pretty easy to bait out up close and punish heavily
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He said he did not know what to play and Nobi told him to play Armor King, so he did.
He thinks Heihachi is poo poo pee pee because he has no lows and Dragunov is shit because he has only 3 moves, so he didn’t know what to pick and Nobi told him to give AK a chance again.
AK is bad against Steve, King, Kazuya, DJ, Jin, Paul, Fahk, Lydia, Jin, Hwoarang, Xiaoyu, Zafina, Marduk, 2d characters and a bunch of other shitheads too.
These ones are the worst offenders tho. Xiaoyu and Zafina in particular are fucking horrible matchups because not even his mids hit their stances and all his best moves are highs anyways. Kazuya and DJ can do his own "Whiff punish shit into super strong combos" routine better than him but also have oki that is actually scary. Steve and Hwoarang simply have super good recoveries and pressure and AK has no momentum, so he ends up blocking 90% of the match whereas someone with pressure may block 70 or 80% against them, meaning he get even less opportunities to do his thing. Jin’s the same generalist archetype, but better and with better +frame tools. The 2d characters are bullshit that kill anyone for not having blocked an unseeable low or for getting jabbed once, so let’s not even go there. Fahk wins because of his huge ass range which wins him the poking contest and makes it difficult for AK to do anything at his optimal range without getting smoked by stuff like 3+4 that covers half the screen. I could go on but you get the idea. JDCR is just that good.That being said, AK’s best matchups are also against characters that suck ass already like Eddy and the bears. He can launch them with every other move and end their lives, but the characters are shit to begin with so there’s nothing to gain there.
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steve is manageable because AK has an unchickenable punch parry. ff,n,2 is also really good against him.
hwoarang is actually one of his better matchups because he can CH launch his d3,4 followups reliably since his ws2 is i12. he can also reliably punish all of his moves.
other characters being better than AK doesn’t mean they’re straight-up bad matchups against him, only characters like kazuya and jin are really strong against him since they can launch his best low
i’d say kuni is a really bad matchup because she can easily backdash out of most of his grab attempts
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The fact that you tekken shitposters debate over which fighting game is harder, is literally a childs mentality.
I play csgo, and league but objectively dota 2, and old arena shooters like quake are 5x as hard as what I play, but I could care less I play whats fun.
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Reminder tekken is a casual button masher made for children with no depth or complexity, nothing in the game is difficult and the only people who play such a shit game are those who aren’t good enough to play real fighting games.
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Said the smash babby lul
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the game is literally a casual button masher made for children, even fortnite requires more skill
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>even Fortnite requires more skill
This is such a bizarre thing to say. Fortnite is very much an ‘oldschool’ style FPS that is extremely difficult to master and is possibly the most intensive game to get as popular as it has.
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>Fortnite is very much an ‘oldschool’ style FPS
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Another day, another dogshit Tekken 7 thread. We get it, you’re not smart enough to memorize a handful of moves. Please return to playing smash brothers and watching children’s playgrounds from afar.
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>Same images/post every time
Not even bait at this point.
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I just fap to the girls
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Shallow vapid game for shallow vapid people.
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What strain of autism causes a person to shitpost copypasted posts for literal years on end. And it’s not just this game either, fucking every game that seems to come out nowadays attracts some mentally deranged individual to single handedly ruin any and all discussion of their hatred
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everyone wants to be the next niche hated micro celebrity
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just stop fucking paying attention to it and let him throw his autistic tantrum.
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Why does tekken make the trannies mad?
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even smash babies are laughing at tekken for how shallow and casual it is
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It was glorious to see this queer being bullied by tekken chads while he tried to desperately trash on it. Should’ve sticked to party games
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this hapa literally gets bullied out of every real fighting game he tries to get into
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I love how hard this CHAD makes tekkucks SEETHE with fury lmao
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Mr Evidence.zip got into Tekken, got the shit kicked out of him and then complained that he wasn’t winning. When he was told to get good he bitched and moaned and called everyone toxic.
That’s not a Chad. That’s a manchild.-
It’s funny because he thought it was going to work like his party games where you can learn a character in a day and the rest of the cast in a week. He thought he was going to use his """talent""" and destroy everyone quickly. He never managed to get into the higher ranks, just bitched and whined about the game, and the best part is that smashfags think he is a giga Chad and proceed to suck his dick even more instead of just admitting he failed at what he planned to do.
VF for comparison, you can see just how shallow tekken is as a fighting game
Enjoy your dead game
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Imagine being the smashfag who made this pic
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>says tekken has no tutorial
>tekkencucks start sperging out
like clockwork
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GET THAT Ganker LOBBY UP RIGHT NOW
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If you play Zafina, Geese, Noctis, Faku or King, don’t expect a run back.
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Is Tekken the Smash of 3D fighters? I read this post again and I realised that if you changed the game’s name it applies directly to Tekken as well. The same top players every time with an identical grand final in 99% of tournaments, extremely low player retention rate to the point that every competitor is in their 30s or older and been playing since 3/5, a solved game where no new tech is ever discovered and no exciting plays get made. Legacy factor counts more than anything else. No top Tekken player has ever been competent at another fighting game, likewise people who dabble in other fighting games don’t bother with Tekken. The series is visibly more shallow and poorly designed than the rest of its subgenre. All things it has in common with Smash.
Is this Tekken’s legacy after 20 years? The equivalent casual party masher, just in 3D?
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>The same top players every time
When you see one or several people dominating a game, that means the game is competitively good and has less randomness. I don’t even like Tekken and think it’s shit but this is a horrible argument.-
>less randomness
>tekken
please
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Who plays similarly to Leo
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Jin
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Nice thread, bloody roar fag
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At a glance, the Tekken games do nothing to distinguish themselves from better-known fighting games. This new game features 54 "different" characters, The vast majority of these characters return from previous Tekkens, and one thing both the old and new characters have in common is their ability to mash out attacks without much skill. Strangely, the designers seem to have run out of move ideas, as all of the "new" Tekken characters reuse moves previously seen in past games. Tekken 7 has the sorts of things you’d expect to see in any uninspired fighting game, simple combos reward button mashing, as each fighter can easily string together punches and kicks for some pretty big damage. Some moves launch opponents into the air, and you may continue to juggle them on their way down with still more attacks. Strings of a half-dozen or more hits are common. But these are par for the course in the genre and are rarely worth the risk when the alternative is to keep churning out quick, easy, damaging combos. The controls are sluggish, and the action, for the most part, is repetitive. The average fighting-game player with any level of proficiency should be able to see through this game’s limited strategies and moves list relatively quickly.
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>100 moves a characters
>Limited movelists
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>100 moves a characters
Why do you keep trying to force this lie?even counting all the repeat strings most characters have well below 100, and to further put that in perspective most 3D fighters have over 200 moves per character.
its like tekken retards have no actual clue about fighting games or something.
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>lol you retards play the WRONG GAME
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>most 3D fighters have over 200 moves per character.
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this is your brain on tekken
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Show me a single 3D fighter where characters have over 200 moves.
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VF for comparison, you can see just how shallow tekken is as a fighting game
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D-DELETE THIS!!!!
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Sega has not released a new VF since Final Showdown in 2011.
Ultimate Showdown is just a reskin of Final Showdown.
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>tekken has less moves than a game that was released a decade ago
Like i said casual shallow garbage
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If you played VF instead of bitch about Tekken maybe the series would still be alive
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Tekken 5 is my favourite one.
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i’m playing it right now, it’s great
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imagine trying to shill this kusoge lmao
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>63 ips
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