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October 17, 2021 at 11:59 pm #476511
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October 18, 2021 at 12:00 am #476512
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GuestHow do you figure?
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October 18, 2021 at 12:02 am #476515
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Guestit has a lower percentage of likable characters. wii u has one out of about 60, ultimate has one out of about a dozen more than that.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:26 am #476535
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Guestlol everyone is in retard take your meds
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October 18, 2021 at 12:31 am #476548
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Guest>it has a lower percentage of likable characters
Stopped reading there.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:41 am #476559
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Guest>it has a lower percentage of likable characters
There’s an even lower percentage of likeable children your parents had.-
October 18, 2021 at 12:45 am #476561
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Gueststruck a nerve?
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October 18, 2021 at 2:27 am #476612
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GuestThis is the stupidest thing I’ve read all week.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:02 am #476516
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Guest>worse singleplayer
>worse graphics
>worse online
>less modes
>horrible input delay
>no trophies-
October 18, 2021 at 12:16 am #476524
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Guestthis, also worse link/ganon/zelda
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October 18, 2021 at 12:17 am #476525
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GuestAll of that was worse in the wii u game except trophies.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:18 am #476527
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Guestdust effects were better in wii u
ZSS’s boobas and butt were better in wii u
colors are better in wii u-
October 18, 2021 at 12:23 am #476530
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Guest>dust effects were better in wii u
Which is bad
>ZSS’s boobas and butt were better in wii u
At the cost of her internal organs.
>colors are better in wii u
Play on full range and you get better colors in ultimate.-
October 18, 2021 at 12:29 am #476538
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Guest>at the cost of her internal organs
faggot
>play at full range
doesn’t change the fact that ultimate’s colors are really washed out for some reason-
October 18, 2021 at 12:31 am #476545
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Guest>doesn’t change the fact that ultimate’s colors are really washed out for some reason
It quite literally fixes that issue.
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October 18, 2021 at 2:16 am #476606
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Guest>Play on full range and you get better colors in ultimate.
Terrible advice. I only play on full because both my switch and Samsung tv are set to auto and they both match full but you don’t get more colors, that’s awful advice. You get crushed blacks or overly bright blown out image. The only thing that matters is they match. On an Xbox console, full and full matching negatively impacts SDR games due to their implementation. I don’t know about switch, limited-limited and full-full are identical. But anybody who thinks full gives you more colors is a fucking clueless moron peddling bad advice. And that would be you, anon.-
October 18, 2021 at 2:26 am #476611
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GuestWell no, full-full does have a slightly bigger range of colors than limited-limited does, but doing full range on a limited TV does indeed crush blacks and blowout whites as you said.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:31 am #476547
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GuestThe moment someone starts complaining about coomer trash not being in the game is how I realize they never had anything of value to say in the first place. Fuck off retard.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:34 am #476554
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GuestI don’t care what Sakurai says, dropping trophies was a mistake.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:30 am #476580
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GuestI agree with anon, Ultimate has worse single player by dropping Master/Crazy Orders and Trophies which meant a fun arcade mode that gave you a reason to play with reward hunting
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October 18, 2021 at 1:31 am #476581
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October 18, 2021 at 1:32 am #476583
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GuestYes.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:34 am #476584
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GuestThat’s wrong for so many different reasons.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:35 am #476585
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GuestThe only thing that was better was that it was free.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:36 am #476588
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GuestIf it’s the same thing except one costs 20 dollars less per year, then yeah, it’s better.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:40 am #476590
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Guest>If it’s the same thing except
It disconnects every five minutes
It doesn’t filter by region automaticallyBut hey, it’s free right?
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October 18, 2021 at 1:42 am #476591
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Guest>It disconnects every five minutes
Why argue about it with such flagrant lies? What’s the point?
>It doesn’t filter by region automatically
You’re thinking of splatoon, which is still incredibly active thanks to not doing that
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October 18, 2021 at 1:44 am #476593
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Guestit doesn’t make it magically work tho
And better netcode and infinitely better, actually playable modes. Ultimate’s online is absolute ass
>And better netcode
t. never played smash 4-
October 18, 2021 at 1:46 am #476595
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GuestI’m assuming netcode and how splatoon 1’s online is also better than 2’s, but whatever it is I’ve had way less issues with it than I have with ultimate.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:39 am #476589
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GuestAnd better netcode and infinitely better, actually playable modes. Ultimate’s online is absolute ass
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October 18, 2021 at 12:20 am #476528
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Guestalso
>worse main themesmash4’s theme is far better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWSU8YOa3jU-
October 18, 2021 at 12:24 am #476531
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GuestI completely forgot how generic it was
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October 18, 2021 at 12:54 am #476568
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Guestok you can say you like the game better but you must be deaf if you think that theme is better
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October 18, 2021 at 2:10 am #476604
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Guestthey are both pretty bad, one sounds like a generic pokemon/jap sports theme the other a generic anime theme
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October 18, 2021 at 12:01 am #476513
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Guestcurious what a future game would look like
people REALLY like the "rival" angle though (krool, ridley, sephiroth) so hopefully they keep rolling with it
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October 18, 2021 at 12:08 am #476518
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GuestWhat other characters could they do rivals for?
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October 18, 2021 at 12:13 am #476520
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GuestCranky kong for mario, dark matter for kirby, kamek for yoshi, captain syrup for wario, shadow and/or eggman for sonic, black shadow or blood falcon for captain falcon, fire emblem villain for fire emblem, raven beak for samus, porky for ness and lucas
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October 18, 2021 at 12:13 am #476521
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GuestEggman 100%
otherwise I guess that kind of rounds it out in terms of biggest impact? unless they do akuma or bison or some shit
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October 18, 2021 at 12:20 am #476529
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October 18, 2021 at 12:41 am #476560
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GuestPorky
Waluigi
Eggman
Black Knight
Akuma
Pokemon Trainer Rival
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October 18, 2021 at 12:17 am #476526
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Guestsakurai had 2 options
a: go full tilt on characters and stages
b: reimagine the game from the ground up with a smaller rosterwe got a, now it’s time for b because smash has gotten stale
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October 18, 2021 at 1:35 am #476586
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Guest>muh reboot
fuck off,where did this meme start? the formula isn’t broken the gameplay has just never been fixed since Brawl ruined the physics like Spiderman never had good physics since after Spiderman Ultimate
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October 18, 2021 at 12:02 am #476514
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Guestt.charizard main
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October 18, 2021 at 12:06 am #476517
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October 18, 2021 at 12:13 am #476519
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GuestSM4SH 3ds have the most blessing thing in my whole life
PACMAN MAINS
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October 18, 2021 at 12:14 am #476522
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GuestFeels like a downgrade from melee
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October 18, 2021 at 12:16 am #476523
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GuestNo it didn’t. Stop being a contrarian faggot looking for (you)’s.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:24 am #476532
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GuestYou cant shield drop in Ultimate
you cant run through people in ultimate
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October 18, 2021 at 12:29 am #476540
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Guestcan’t do a special tech that was only in 4. if you tech on a straight wall after being spiked, it would allow you to wall jump 60 degrees and it restored your double jump
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October 18, 2021 at 12:30 am #476544
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Guestcan you pivot in Ultimate? I know perfect pivoting was a thing in 4
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October 18, 2021 at 12:25 am #476533
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Guest>buys cheap used WiiU
>sour grapes over the Switch-
October 18, 2021 at 12:27 am #476536
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GuestWhat’s with that anyway?
I mean, I had a wii u but its undeniable that the switch is better.-
October 18, 2021 at 12:29 am #476539
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GuestThey can’t afford it.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:30 am #476541
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GuestSmash Ultimate might be the only excusable port Nintendo shat out, what are you on? That doesn’t mean it gets a pass for the shit it pulled.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:32 am #476549
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Guest>Smash Ultimate might be the only excusable port
That’s because it isn’t a port.-
October 18, 2021 at 12:52 am #476567
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GuestIt pretty much is a port.
They dummied out a lot of ultimate’s features, but it’s basically a port with more characters.-
October 18, 2021 at 12:55 am #476570
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Guestdummied out a lot of 4’s features, sorry, let me fix that.
ok you can say you like the game better but you must be deaf if you think that theme is better
Colors weave is shit and unironically made me want fucking Menu 2 from melee back, and I fucking HATE menu 2 from melee after being over exposed to it all the way through Brawl, 3ds and wii u
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October 18, 2021 at 1:04 am #476575
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Guest>dummied out a lot of 4’s features
Anon, for starters reusing assets doesn’t mean something us a port. By that logic most games can be considered ports.
Then there’s the fact that there’s very few reused assets that weren’t bundled with a handful of models.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:00 am #476573
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GuestThat makes it inherently just not a port. All that means is that it reused content from another game in the same series.
That’s like calling Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire a port of Crystal because a lot of the same Pokemon show up and there’s a battle tower.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:03 am #476574
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GuestNot at all fucker.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:26 am #476534
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October 18, 2021 at 12:28 am #476537
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Guestit does handle substantially worse with the input delay and shitty buffer system
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October 18, 2021 at 12:30 am #476542
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GuestHaving gone back to 4 recently I can safely say that this is false. Something about 4 feels incredibly clunky even when you compare the wii u version to the 3ds version
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October 18, 2021 at 12:31 am #476546
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GuestDo you really think they people that make these kind of threads play the games?
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October 18, 2021 at 2:23 am #476608
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GuestI guess not
My worst gripe with Ultimate are the modes.
I think they should’ve just completely scrapped spirits. They’re poorly integrated into the game and don’t feel good to use at all. World of Light was also a disappointment and doesn’t compare to Subspace Emissary.
Should have just created something else or brought back previous modes.
I would’ve loved to see Smash Tour or Smash Run come back. Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun, and I didn’t get to play Run.
Master/Crazy orders was also nice, but would probably be redundant considering there’s nothing to buy with money in Ultimate.
At least they brought back HRC, I guess…Yeah I hated Ultimates modes. It has 8 player which is cool but world of light is tedious
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October 18, 2021 at 12:33 am #476553
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Guest>plays 4
>to prove ult doesn’t have input delay or a bad buffer system
good one, i played 3ds YESTERDAY without a c stick and it felt leagues better
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October 18, 2021 at 12:30 am #476543
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GuestTHERE WILL BE BLOOD
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October 18, 2021 at 12:32 am #476550
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GuestActually go back and see what 4 feels like before you feel the need to spew your retarded opinion.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:32 am #476551
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Guest>Loves dying to rage
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October 18, 2021 at 12:33 am #476552
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GuestREMINDER THAT SORA DROPS IN 3 HOURS
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October 18, 2021 at 12:34 am #476555
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GuestThe only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster. And that’s all this game has going for it. It’s basically saying
>Look, everyone from prior games are here! Plus we added in several never evers like Ridley, K. Rool, Banjo, and Sora! And uh… that’s it! But you’ll buy it anyway because you gotta consoom Smash!-
October 18, 2021 at 12:40 am #476558
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Guest>The only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster
And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
And the online sans being paid-
October 18, 2021 at 12:54 am #476569
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Guest>And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events. Classic is kind of better but I miss when there were slight changes between each run, not as much as wii u, but still a few changes
>And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
Honestly, the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
>And the online sans being paid
Nah, wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now-
October 18, 2021 at 12:58 am #476572
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Guest>Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events.
Sure if you ignore the fact that there’s far lore variety.
>the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
I’d say that’s more on you being too used to 4’s abysmal controls. It’s the same issue melee players have.
>wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now
Not even close, the fact that you barely had any control on the rules for either mode was abysmal not to mention how FG required every stage to be the omega variant. -
October 18, 2021 at 1:36 am #476587
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GuestRetard with retard opinions.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:36 am #476556
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GuestCloser to Melee, disregarded.
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October 18, 2021 at 12:46 am #476563
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October 18, 2021 at 12:47 am #476565
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GuestIf you’re not careful, he could piss off most of the Kirby fanbase and add Bugzzy.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:13 am #476576
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GuestThe battles are way more fierce, a single moment hesitation can cost you a stock.
I4 isn’t for the faint of heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1SrgIo3oAI-
October 18, 2021 at 1:23 am #476578
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GuestI completely forgot that rolling was the meta in 4
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October 18, 2021 at 1:15 am #476577
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GuestControversial opinion but as someone who plays smash as a party game brawl honestly felt like the series peak to me. Sub space emissary was insanely fun, mountain of side content, the final smashes all felt unique and fun to use, and it had really good item and character verity. I got Brawl at launch and it almost never left my wii.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:32 am #476582
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GuestAgree 100%.
I judge all fighters/racers against Brawl’s volume of content, and rarely do any games in these genres come close.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:29 am #476579
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October 18, 2021 at 1:43 am #476592
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GuestMy worst gripe with Ultimate are the modes.
I think they should’ve just completely scrapped spirits. They’re poorly integrated into the game and don’t feel good to use at all. World of Light was also a disappointment and doesn’t compare to Subspace Emissary.
Should have just created something else or brought back previous modes.
I would’ve loved to see Smash Tour or Smash Run come back. Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun, and I didn’t get to play Run.
Master/Crazy orders was also nice, but would probably be redundant considering there’s nothing to buy with money in Ultimate.
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October 18, 2021 at 1:46 am #476596
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Guest>Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun
This thread really is just a contrarian circlejerk-
October 18, 2021 at 1:59 am #476601
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October 18, 2021 at 1:49 am #476597
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GuestSmash run was insanely fun, but it sucked it was only on the 3ds
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October 18, 2021 at 2:24 am #476609
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GuestSmash tour could’ve been more fun if it was just mario party but replace the minigames with those special smash matches at the end of smash run
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October 18, 2021 at 1:45 am #476594
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October 18, 2021 at 1:49 am #476598
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October 18, 2021 at 1:49 am #476599
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GuestI think the idea of Geno is retarded but wew lad, 3 Square Enix guys (2 Mario guys as well) yet no Geno, thats gotta sting
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October 18, 2021 at 2:04 am #476603
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GuestComparing the other square properties, geno quite literally never had a chabnce
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October 18, 2021 at 2:13 am #476605
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Guestnot just that, Geno has to get there before other Mario guys too, so if people want Geno they may still have to wait for him after possibly Cpt Toad, King Boo and Waluigi gets there, even on the Square side theres still Agnes from Bravely Defaul
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October 18, 2021 at 2:03 am #476602
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GuestI dont have a switch myself but ive played hundreds of hours of the series with friends and STILL havent gotten used to the terrible buffer and input lag it has. I also hate all the switch controllers. If I emulate it will the input lag still be there or is it built in?
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October 18, 2021 at 2:19 am #476607
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GuestGame doesn’t look half-bad when the tick rate isn’t slowed so that the game plays at 90% speed and rolls were given more end-lag for no reason
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October 18, 2021 at 2:24 am #476610
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GuestBoth of them suck ass but ult is clearly better. Smash4 is fucking terrible.
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October 18, 2021 at 2:32 am #476613
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GuestI agree
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