Super Smash Bros Ultimate felt like a complete downgrade from the wii u game

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    • #476511
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      This felt like a complete downgrade from the wii u game

    • #476512
      Anonymous
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      How do you figure?

      • #476515
        Anonymous
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        it has a lower percentage of likable characters. wii u has one out of about 60, ultimate has one out of about a dozen more than that.

        • #476535
          Anonymous
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          lol everyone is in retard take your meds

        • #476548
          Anonymous
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          >it has a lower percentage of likable characters

          Stopped reading there.

        • #476559
          Anonymous
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          >it has a lower percentage of likable characters
          There’s an even lower percentage of likeable children your parents had.

          • #476561
            Anonymous
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            struck a nerve?

        • #476612
          Anonymous
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          This is the stupidest thing I’ve read all week.

      • #476516
        Anonymous
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        >worse singleplayer
        >worse graphics
        >worse online
        >less modes
        >horrible input delay
        >no trophies

        • #476524
          Anonymous
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          this, also worse link/ganon/zelda

        • #476525
          Anonymous
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          All of that was worse in the wii u game except trophies.

          • #476527
            Anonymous
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            dust effects were better in wii u
            ZSS’s boobas and butt were better in wii u
            colors are better in wii u

            • #476530
              Anonymous
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              >dust effects were better in wii u
              Which is bad
              >ZSS’s boobas and butt were better in wii u
              At the cost of her internal organs.
              >colors are better in wii u
              Play on full range and you get better colors in ultimate.

              • #476538
                Anonymous
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                >at the cost of her internal organs
                faggot
                >play at full range
                doesn’t change the fact that ultimate’s colors are really washed out for some reason

                • #476545
                  Anonymous
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                  >doesn’t change the fact that ultimate’s colors are really washed out for some reason
                  It quite literally fixes that issue.

              • #476606
                Anonymous
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                >Play on full range and you get better colors in ultimate.
                Terrible advice. I only play on full because both my switch and Samsung tv are set to auto and they both match full but you don’t get more colors, that’s awful advice. You get crushed blacks or overly bright blown out image. The only thing that matters is they match. On an Xbox console, full and full matching negatively impacts SDR games due to their implementation. I don’t know about switch, limited-limited and full-full are identical. But anybody who thinks full gives you more colors is a fucking clueless moron peddling bad advice. And that would be you, anon.

                • #476611
                  Anonymous
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                  Well no, full-full does have a slightly bigger range of colors than limited-limited does, but doing full range on a limited TV does indeed crush blacks and blowout whites as you said.

            • #476547
              Anonymous
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              The moment someone starts complaining about coomer trash not being in the game is how I realize they never had anything of value to say in the first place. Fuck off retard.

          • #476554
            Anonymous
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            I don’t care what Sakurai says, dropping trophies was a mistake.

          • #476580
            Anonymous
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            I agree with anon, Ultimate has worse single player by dropping Master/Crazy Orders and Trophies which meant a fun arcade mode that gave you a reason to play with reward hunting

          • #476581
            Anonymous
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            >wii u
            >worse online

            • #476583
              Anonymous
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              Yes.

              • #476584
                Anonymous
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                That’s wrong for so many different reasons.

                • #476585
                  Anonymous
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                  The only thing that was better was that it was free.

                  • #476588
                    Anonymous
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                    If it’s the same thing except one costs 20 dollars less per year, then yeah, it’s better.

                    • #476590
                      Anonymous
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                      >If it’s the same thing except
                      It disconnects every five minutes
                      It doesn’t filter by region automatically

                      But hey, it’s free right?

                      • #476591
                        Anonymous
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                        >It disconnects every five minutes
                        Why argue about it with such flagrant lies? What’s the point?
                        >It doesn’t filter by region automatically
                        You’re thinking of splatoon, which is still incredibly active thanks to not doing that

                    • #476593
                      Anonymous
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                      it doesn’t make it magically work tho

                      And better netcode and infinitely better, actually playable modes. Ultimate’s online is absolute ass

                      >And better netcode
                      t. never played smash 4

                      • #476595
                        Anonymous
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                        I’m assuming netcode and how splatoon 1’s online is also better than 2’s, but whatever it is I’ve had way less issues with it than I have with ultimate.

                  • #476589
                    Anonymous
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                    And better netcode and infinitely better, actually playable modes. Ultimate’s online is absolute ass

        • #476528
          Anonymous
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          also
          >worse main theme

          smash4’s theme is far better
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWSU8YOa3jU

          • #476531
            Anonymous
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            I completely forgot how generic it was

          • #476568
            Anonymous
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            ok you can say you like the game better but you must be deaf if you think that theme is better

            • #476604
              Anonymous
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              they are both pretty bad, one sounds like a generic pokemon/jap sports theme the other a generic anime theme

    • #476513
      Anonymous
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      curious what a future game would look like

      people REALLY like the "rival" angle though (krool, ridley, sephiroth) so hopefully they keep rolling with it

      • #476518
        Anonymous
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        What other characters could they do rivals for?

        • #476520
          Anonymous
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          Cranky kong for mario, dark matter for kirby, kamek for yoshi, captain syrup for wario, shadow and/or eggman for sonic, black shadow or blood falcon for captain falcon, fire emblem villain for fire emblem, raven beak for samus, porky for ness and lucas

        • #476521
          Anonymous
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          Eggman 100%

          otherwise I guess that kind of rounds it out in terms of biggest impact? unless they do akuma or bison or some shit

        • #476529
          Anonymous
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          King Boo for Luigi, you’d think being the main antagonist for 3 games (with one of them being recent) would be enough

        • #476560
          Anonymous
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          Porky
          Waluigi
          Eggman
          Black Knight
          Akuma
          Pokemon Trainer Rival

      • #476526
        Anonymous
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        sakurai had 2 options
        a: go full tilt on characters and stages
        b: reimagine the game from the ground up with a smaller roster

        we got a, now it’s time for b because smash has gotten stale

        • #476586
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          >muh reboot
          fuck off,where did this meme start? the formula isn’t broken the gameplay has just never been fixed since Brawl ruined the physics like Spiderman never had good physics since after Spiderman Ultimate

    • #476514
      Anonymous
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      t.charizard main

      • #476517
        Anonymous
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        That would be me.
        The two things I miss about Smash Wii U are:
        -Twilight Zelda
        -Being able to play CHADrizard withou having to press down B twice every time I lose a stock.

        • #476519
          Anonymous
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          SM4SH 3ds have the most blessing thing in my whole life
          PACMAN MAINS
          :y

    • #476522
      Anonymous
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      Feels like a downgrade from melee

    • #476523
      Anonymous
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      No it didn’t. Stop being a contrarian faggot looking for (you)’s.

    • #476532
      Anonymous
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      You cant shield drop in Ultimate
      you cant run through people in ultimate
      im sure theres more

      • #476540
        Anonymous
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        can’t do a special tech that was only in 4. if you tech on a straight wall after being spiked, it would allow you to wall jump 60 degrees and it restored your double jump

        • #476544
          Anonymous
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          can you pivot in Ultimate? I know perfect pivoting was a thing in 4

    • #476533
      Anonymous
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      >buys cheap used WiiU
      >sour grapes over the Switch

      • #476536
        Anonymous
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        What’s with that anyway?
        I mean, I had a wii u but its undeniable that the switch is better.

        • #476539
          Anonymous
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          They can’t afford it.

      • #476541
        Anonymous
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        Smash Ultimate might be the only excusable port Nintendo shat out, what are you on? That doesn’t mean it gets a pass for the shit it pulled.

        • #476549
          Anonymous
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          >Smash Ultimate might be the only excusable port
          That’s because it isn’t a port.

          • #476567
            Anonymous
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            It pretty much is a port.
            They dummied out a lot of ultimate’s features, but it’s basically a port with more characters.

            • #476570
              Anonymous
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              dummied out a lot of 4’s features, sorry, let me fix that.

              ok you can say you like the game better but you must be deaf if you think that theme is better

              Colors weave is shit and unironically made me want fucking Menu 2 from melee back, and I fucking HATE menu 2 from melee after being over exposed to it all the way through Brawl, 3ds and wii u

              • #476575
                Anonymous
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                >dummied out a lot of 4’s features
                Anon, for starters reusing assets doesn’t mean something us a port. By that logic most games can be considered ports.
                Then there’s the fact that there’s very few reused assets that weren’t bundled with a handful of models.

            • #476573
              Anonymous
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              That makes it inherently just not a port. All that means is that it reused content from another game in the same series.

              That’s like calling Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire a port of Crystal because a lot of the same Pokemon show up and there’s a battle tower.

              • #476574
                Anonymous
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                Not at all fucker.

    • #476534
      Anonymous
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      I’ll give you that Ultimate was way less promising than Smash 4 ever was, and didn’t have the ballot to supposedly gauge who got into Smash. But the rest is of your claim is totally false.
      Neither game bothered adding a single Kirby newcomer, so they’re both bad regardless.

    • #476537
      Anonymous
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      it does handle substantially worse with the input delay and shitty buffer system

      • #476542
        Anonymous
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        Having gone back to 4 recently I can safely say that this is false. Something about 4 feels incredibly clunky even when you compare the wii u version to the 3ds version

        • #476546
          Anonymous
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          Do you really think they people that make these kind of threads play the games?

          • #476608
            Anonymous
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            I guess not

            My worst gripe with Ultimate are the modes.
            I think they should’ve just completely scrapped spirits. They’re poorly integrated into the game and don’t feel good to use at all. World of Light was also a disappointment and doesn’t compare to Subspace Emissary.
            Should have just created something else or brought back previous modes.
            I would’ve loved to see Smash Tour or Smash Run come back. Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun, and I didn’t get to play Run.
            Master/Crazy orders was also nice, but would probably be redundant considering there’s nothing to buy with money in Ultimate.
            At least they brought back HRC, I guess…

            Yeah I hated Ultimates modes. It has 8 player which is cool but world of light is tedious

        • #476553
          Anonymous
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          >plays 4
          >to prove ult doesn’t have input delay or a bad buffer system
          good one, i played 3ds YESTERDAY without a c stick and it felt leagues better

          • #476557
            Anonymous
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            If only that were true anon.

            • #476566
              Anonymous
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              If only you know it was

    • #476543
      Anonymous
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      THERE WILL BE BLOOD

    • #476550
      Anonymous
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      Actually go back and see what 4 feels like before you feel the need to spew your retarded opinion.

    • #476551
      Anonymous
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      >Loves dying to rage
      kys faggot

    • #476552
      Anonymous
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      REMINDER THAT SORA DROPS IN 3 HOURS

      • #476562
        Anonymous
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        retard

        • #476564
          Anonymous
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          Thanks for letting me know that you are.
          Your mother confirmed it with me after I fucker her real good.

    • #476555
      Anonymous
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      The only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster. And that’s all this game has going for it. It’s basically saying
      >Look, everyone from prior games are here! Plus we added in several never evers like Ridley, K. Rool, Banjo, and Sora! And uh… that’s it! But you’ll buy it anyway because you gotta consoom Smash!

      • #476558
        Anonymous
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        >The only upgrade from Wii U to Switch was the roster
        And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
        And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
        And the online sans being paid

        • #476569
          Anonymous
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          >And the single player especially the arcade mode which can fuck off with the 5+ player smash bullshit
          Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events. Classic is kind of better but I miss when there were slight changes between each run, not as much as wii u, but still a few changes
          >And the game speed since 4 was unbearably slow
          Honestly, the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
          >And the online sans being paid
          Nah, wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now

          • #476572
            Anonymous
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            >Ultimate’s spirits are way worse than 4’s events.
            Sure if you ignore the fact that there’s far lore variety.
            >the faster game speed combined with the imput delay leaves the game feeling a lot worse control wise
            I’d say that’s more on you being too used to 4’s abysmal controls. It’s the same issue melee players have.
            >wii u had way better online and for glory and for fun were way better than the shit we have now
            Not even close, the fact that you barely had any control on the rules for either mode was abysmal not to mention how FG required every stage to be the omega variant.

          • #476587
            Anonymous
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            Retard with retard opinions.

    • #476556
      Anonymous
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      Closer to Melee, disregarded.

    • #476563
      Anonymous
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      this motherfucker isn’t gonna be in the next game and that saddens me though hes definitely one of the most sensible cuts

      is there any other character that checks the "wrestling" box better bar a rebooted wario?

      • #476565
        Anonymous
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        If you’re not careful, he could piss off most of the Kirby fanbase and add Bugzzy.

    • #476576
      Anonymous
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      The battles are way more fierce, a single moment hesitation can cost you a stock.
      I4 isn’t for the faint of heart
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1SrgIo3oAI

      • #476578
        Anonymous
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        I completely forgot that rolling was the meta in 4

    • #476577
      Anonymous
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      Controversial opinion but as someone who plays smash as a party game brawl honestly felt like the series peak to me. Sub space emissary was insanely fun, mountain of side content, the final smashes all felt unique and fun to use, and it had really good item and character verity. I got Brawl at launch and it almost never left my wii.

      • #476582
        Anonymous
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        Agree 100%.
        I judge all fighters/racers against Brawl’s volume of content, and rarely do any games in these genres come close.

    • #476579
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    • #476592
      Anonymous
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      My worst gripe with Ultimate are the modes.
      I think they should’ve just completely scrapped spirits. They’re poorly integrated into the game and don’t feel good to use at all. World of Light was also a disappointment and doesn’t compare to Subspace Emissary.
      Should have just created something else or brought back previous modes.
      I would’ve loved to see Smash Tour or Smash Run come back. Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun, and I didn’t get to play Run.
      Master/Crazy orders was also nice, but would probably be redundant considering there’s nothing to buy with money in Ultimate.
      At least they brought back HRC, I guess…

      • #476596
        Anonymous
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        >Tour was surprisingly a lot of fun
        This thread really is just a contrarian circlejerk

        • #476601
          Anonymous
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          I wish I was trolling. Pretty much everyone I played with preferred Tour over regular Smash.

      • #476597
        Anonymous
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        Smash run was insanely fun, but it sucked it was only on the 3ds

      • #476609
        Anonymous
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        Smash tour could’ve been more fun if it was just mario party but replace the minigames with those special smash matches at the end of smash run

    • #476594
      Anonymous
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      You fuckers can’t tell me that Geno was and will always be robbed of a fighter slot.
      Fuck Sakurai

      • #476598
        Anonymous
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        >muh puppet side character from that shitty Mario JRPG

      • #476599
        Anonymous
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        I think the idea of Geno is retarded but wew lad, 3 Square Enix guys (2 Mario guys as well) yet no Geno, thats gotta sting

      • #476603
        Anonymous
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        Comparing the other square properties, geno quite literally never had a chabnce

        • #476605
          Anonymous
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          not just that, Geno has to get there before other Mario guys too, so if people want Geno they may still have to wait for him after possibly Cpt Toad, King Boo and Waluigi gets there, even on the Square side theres still Agnes from Bravely Defaul

    • #476602
      Anonymous
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      I dont have a switch myself but ive played hundreds of hours of the series with friends and STILL havent gotten used to the terrible buffer and input lag it has. I also hate all the switch controllers. If I emulate it will the input lag still be there or is it built in?

    • #476607
      Anonymous
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      Game doesn’t look half-bad when the tick rate isn’t slowed so that the game plays at 90% speed and rolls were given more end-lag for no reason
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnxPb-tAqA

    • #476610
      Anonymous
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      Both of them suck ass but ult is clearly better. Smash4 is fucking terrible.

    • #476613
      Anonymous
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      I agree

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