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when’s nintendo gonna get in trouble for all the anti-consumer shit they’ve been pulling?
>taking down songs from youtube that can’t be found anywhere else
>threatening lawsuits against people who make free fangames for fun
>charges you money to use your own internet
>literally stalking hackers irl, which is probably even more illegal than what the hackers are doing -
Just remember metroid dread runs perfectly on emulator. And if you don’t own a switch don’t worry emulators don’t make you pay to use your own internet just to play multiplayer.
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lmao true
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T SAY THAT
@NintendoOfAmerica DO SOMETHING -
>emulators don’t make you pay to use your own internet just to play multiplayer.
Dread doesn’t have multiplayer, though.
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None of this is anti consumer.
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charging you for a non-service like your own fucking internet kind of is. don’t give me the ‘it pays for the nintendo infrastructure’ because nintendo online is fucking garbage
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>don’t give me the ‘it pays for the nintendo infrastructure’ because nintendo online is fucking garbage
Do I look like a Sonyfag to you?-
Remember when Sonyfags used to boast about how psn was free during the ps3 era
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>kind of is
And that’s where you lose, it either is nor isn’t.-
are you that autistic that you can’t discern a sarcastic infliction?
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Considering the OP, probably.
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>taking down songs
>refusing to put them up for sale anywhere
>shutting down projects and sites that are helping to promote their products
>charging you money for services that nintendo does not actually provide unless it’s 1st party games
>even then the online is fucking shit and they have literally no reason to improve because you need to pay them to play online and there are no alternatives
>sending corporate death squads after hackers to scare them into not providing services to consumers
>none of this is anti-consumer-
No its not anti consumer in the slightest.
Most of it doesn’t even pertain to the act of consumption.
If you want anti consumer look at this anon’s list>because Sony doesn’t pull off that type of shit
>$60 a year for the worst online service in taking history
>threatening lawsuits against people who make free fangames for fun
>increasing game price to $70 in evregion
>refusing cross play/save features on the basis that their fans need to be protected
>holding fortnite accounts hostage when people wanted to switch platforms-
both Nintendo and Sony and 99% of other companies are objectively anti-consumer, they care more about making money than making their fans happy
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>both Nintendo and Sony and 99% of other companies are objectively anti-consumer
Be honest anon, what do you think anti-consumer means-
Making money
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>>taking down songs
All of their songs are still up
>>refusing to put them up for sale anywhere
Do they have to? It’s not inherently anti consumer if they don’t since it doesn’t benefit them to hold I back.
>>shutting down projects and sites that are helping to promote their products
Fan projects that are monetised in any way, shape or form are obviously going to be taken down and people just so happen to think they can do so with nintendo games.
>>charging you money for services that nintendo does not actually provide unless it’s 1st party games
I can’t think of one service that is 1st party only.
>>even then the online is fucking shit and they have literally no reason to improve because you need to pay them to play online and there are no alternatives
The alternative is not buying it I didn’t, so why are you?
>>sending corporate death squads after hackers to scare them into not providing services to consumers
Literally nothing to do with consumers whatsoever.
>>none of this is anti-consumer-
AM2R and pokemon prism were not monetized in any way
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and smbx
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Host site had ads.
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there are other fan sites that host ads soley to keep the website up for other things that get to stay up
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Yes because they’re fan sites, they aren’t hosting games.
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that one site that uses the 2013 and 2016 roblox clients with hat models ripped directly from other games would like to have a word with you
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>roblox
Any argument you had has been immediately rendered moot.-
>company that costs 5 times as much as ubisoft doesnt have to worry about people using its brand
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Do you have an actual argument or not anon.
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are you illiterate or do i just explain things badly?
I’m talking about a website that uses roblox’s brand and old clients and profits off it. I forgot the name of it, but it also had its own currency and membership.
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Anon, its fucking roblox
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charging you for peer to peer internet connections is not even really dependant on nintendo doing anything
you pay your internet bills for the ability to communicate with other devices, you pay ps4 online or xbox live on the premise that you are funding their server upkeep and their internet billspeer to peer doesnt use servers, its your device to the other players device: you should only be paying internet bill. imagine if you trade pokemon locally with a physical cable on GBA, and you paid a subscription to be allowed to use your cable link that you already bought and paid for upfront. nintendo’s "online" is just making you pay for the sake of paying. they aren’t providing anything and its a worse quality than servers because p2p is inconsistent.
the entire reason nick all stars is a big deal is because it has better online and tournament support than smash bros, the game is copying.
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Nick Brawl’s online is peer to peer too you retard. Peer to peer is objectively better for FGs than server loading, it’s the implementation of the netcode that makes it’s online better.
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It’s better in the same way that SFxT had better netcode than, say, SF4 or GGXrd.
It’s rollback, but buggy as shit, prone to falling back to delay, falling out of sync and having async rollbacks.It’s launch SFV.
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>charging you for peer to peer internet connections is not even really dependant on nintendo doing anything
I’m going to stop you there because you’re forgetting about the other services, namely the games. Where normally 4 games would run a person 20 on its own you get a solid chunk of them for the same price. -
Charging for internet was never about covering server costs. Let’s get that point straight right now. So what we have is one company charging 1/3rd the cost at most, and also encourages people to load up multiple friends on the family plan which reduces that cost to 1/10 of what their competitors charge. Very pro consumer.
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>because it has better online
Despite the fact that complaints are flooding in about it and no one is doing anything.-
It’s like we all forgot how many times Sony has leaked personal information
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>nick all stars is a big deal
You guys seriously can never not talk about your latest NINTENDO KILLER. It’s fucking hilarious how obsessed you are. -
All this explaining and you didn’t even realise nick also uses p2p. This is why no one takes anti-tendies seriously.
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Also the fact that they can never back up their arguments
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That’s because their arguments are fueled by opinion and not objectivity.
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>>taking down songs from youtube that can’t be found anywhere else
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never really, I dont see why they would stop
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Never. All nintendo has to do is wave some new bullshit and tendies will eat it up and forget the anti-consumer practices
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This.
>Wow, that’s really shitty to do. I’m actually bothered by th- is that a new Smash reveal? -
And then they completely ignore the smash reveal and continue to rage until their needs are met as always.
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Never, Nintendo could hire mercenaries to shoot up schools because some kid drew an epic Pokemon OC and nintendies would still defend them. I just want them to keep going and see how far they’ll yank the chains of their consoomers.
Show me proof of this "Nintendo fanboy boogeyman" that you’re projecting about.
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Nintendo is the only company that can be EA-tier greedy and get applauded for it. It’s genuinely scary the kind of power they have over their fans.
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because they used to deliver quality games
but that period is over-
All I see on this year’s release schedule are quality Nintendo games. Cope, snoy.
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>knows a game is quality before its release
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Anon, I don’t know if you know this but the year is almost over.
Most games coming to the switch gave already come out.
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Nobody on this industry can even dream to get on EA’s level and for all the vitriol EA gets they still make bank anyway.
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Are you going to put Sony to that same standard
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No, because Sony doesn’t pull off that type of shit anyways unlike Nintendo
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>because Sony doesn’t pull off that type of shit
>$60 a year for the worst online service in taking history
>threatening lawsuits against people who make free fangames for fun
>increasing game price to $70 in evregion
>refusing cross play/save features on the basis that their fans need to be protected
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Is that why they scammed people out of PS5 versions of games that they were promised? LOL
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Kek, Sony does the exact same shit, its just that the media doesn’t bother to report on it when it happens since a majority of gaming journos are snoytrannies
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-02-11-inside-the-littlebigplanet-pc-fan-game-sony-shut-down-with-a-cease-and-desist -
LMAO! Put me in the screencap!
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lmao
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>criticising sony
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op here, fuck nintendo AND fuck sony as well
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Sony is already dead to me. At least I held nintendo to some standard, since they used to regularly put out good quality. Their fall from grace was far more drastic.
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At least nintendies admit that their company is shit.
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>youtubers are liars
>what lawsuit?
>you don’t own your internet, you pay a service to use one from a ISP
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Never because what retards on the internet call anti-consumer has been done for decades by Nintendo and others nor is illegal.
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are you saying smash is like mlp? i dont get it
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yes
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>the issue is how these companies think they can achieve profit and they always choose the most infuriating methods
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Never, Nintendo could hire mercenaries to shoot up schools because some kid drew an epic Pokemon OC and nintendies would still defend them. I just want them to keep going and see how far they’ll yank the chains of their consoomers.
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>Nintendo could hire mercenaries to shoot up schools because some kid drew an epic Pokemon OC
You know, with the amount of school shootings in America this could actually be trueBig think
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people defend them because you say hyperbolic shit like this
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>Hyperbolic
Shigeru "If their age is on the clock they’re ready for the Glock" Miyamoto is performing a round of free postnatal abortions right now, Takeshi just wanted to pretend to play Mario but the IP has to be defended.
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I wouldn’t really call it a Disney effect. For one nostalgia for a video game franchise isn’t the same as nostalgia for an animated movie, while the latter leads to a fanbase that wants more of the same the former leads to a fanbase with a warped sense of quality where they remember their childhood games as better than anything coming out today.
Then you have the fact that the Nintendo fanbase has always been somewhat fickle when it comes to game quality. Contrary to what Ganker believes they aren’t one giant hivemind that will blindly follow one thing and that has been the cause of many a controversy such as the censorship debacle, the NSO riot and dexit. All things considered they’re one of the few that will put their concerns out there when needed and don’t tend to follow a company as much as the games they make.
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So Nintendo fans are all united and would NEVER pay for something that’s anticonsumer, like day 1 DLC and gacha and season passes? And yet you simultaneously gloat about how their mobile games and how pokemon always break record sales.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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It’s more difficult to call Nintendo on their shit because on top of being Japanese, they make a habit of not interacting with fans too closely. The acceptance of the language/cultural barrier is entirely by design. Other companies go out of their way to interact with and please fans but Nintendo knows that’s harmful to their brand in the long run. Smash Bros dips in to fan response the most and even that is done at considerably more measured distance than other fighting games and that’s with a fucking character ballot. Nintendo does listen but they almost never tell you they’re listening, because then more people will wonder why they aren’t responding to X, Y, or Z.
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>Other companies go out of their way to interact with and please fans
I can’t think of a single company that does this without losing copious amounts of money first.-
Sorry, I understand that’s not true in a genuine sense. Other companies do directly respond to and cite fan feedback more often though. It’s usually insincere or halfhearted but it is there. Microsoft for example is constantly pretending to kiss fans’ asses. Sony’s most prolific developers are obnoxiously open on social media. Activision-Blizzard even before the controversy was all about citing fan feedback.
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Here’s the thing, the social media mook is just a social media mook. They’re not privvy to anything nor can they change anything.
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That’s the best way to go about it in all honesty, once you reveal you’re listening you have to continue listening regardless of who’s speaking
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Yes in a business sense I can’t blame them, and again the many ways in which they get people to just give up on getting through to them is by design. They’ll always have more to lose than we have to gain, and vice versa.
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Nintendo always responds to fan feedback by pretending they thought of these things themselves. They’d have you believe they just stumbled into making an open world Zelda and new sandbox Mario because it was "the right time".
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Nintendo is never going to get in trouble for this because braindead consumers keep buying into their clownshit excuses combined with it being under law. Yes they’re wrong for doing this combined with not releasing any viable alternative but this is where you as the consumer have to tell them to fuck off and boycott them. Boycotting would work if any of the fucks complaining about this would stick to the boycott but as soon as X comes out they hop back as if it never happened. Your actions have consequences.
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why do you complain. what service can nintendo offer that is better than you pirating their shit anyway. seriously why do you care.
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Why haven’t you committed to a solution?
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>no answer
Though so-
I complain and I ‘care’ because of the retards like you complaining on the behalf of them and the brainlets who won’t use the solution right infront of them. You can easily use pirating as a solution for everything but that still dosen’t address the fact that for those who don’t pirate, they’re getting fucked over and punished as if they are the ones pirating. Nintendo can keep doing the same things they’ve been doing for decades or fully embrace Emulation and open-source software. But clearly just like the company you defend they have too much pride for that.
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How is what nintendo does any different than any other company in this regard?
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It’s not, which is why I support this universally across any company. I don’t believe in the current copyright system and I haven’t for a significant amount of time. The copyright laws in America and globally need a massive reworking, preferably one without the reach of the predatory companies who’ve contributed in some part to these laws.
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>its only bad when nintendo does it
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>Tfw you didn’t read I support this universally across any company
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>I support this universally across any company
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What part of ‘Copyright laws need to be reworked across the entire system’ doesn’t stick to you? If it were up to me, after 14 years everything would go to the public domain or there wouldn’t be a copyright system for companies to exploit at all. I don’t like Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, or any other company that pull the nonsense they do when it comes to copyright. Plus, we are in a thread dedicated to Nintendo, the topic at hand.
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You came into the thread pooping on nintendo specifically, yet here you are saying you weren’t
That’s because their arguments are fueled by opinion and not objectivity.
It’s just so tiresome. Pretty sure it’s just kids who watched that EMPLemon video
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Never trust an anti nintendo person. They’re mentally ill over toys amd will constantly lie.
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>If it were up to me, after 14 years everything would go to the public domain or there wouldn’t be a copyright system for companies to exploit at all
HA. God you’re a stupid, stupid person. The copyright law is the only thing preventing companies from absolutely trampling everyone else you dipshit. What do you think would happen if it was just suddenly free reign out there -
This. Copyrights protect grass roots innovation from fuckheug corporations. This beta bitch communist wants anarchy because he couldn’t get his shiny toy for free
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Oh you’re just a seething faggot who is mad he can’t profit off of someone else’s creation. Nevermind.
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>He thinks the pirate cares about profit
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And yet you seethe every time nintendo takes down a Russian for profit ROM malware site. Curious.
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You’ve got stock there bootlicker?
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What like stockmarket stock. Yeah.
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>I don’t like Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, or any other company that pull the nonsense they do when it comes to copyright.
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>after 14 years everything would go to the public domain
Yeah that’s nice and all but what happens when the big companies that got their riches abusing the old copyright system use said riches to abuse the new one and pump out higher budget projects using IPs and properties that smaller companies used to own to make a profit while using aforementioned riches to keep a hold on their pre-existing IPs with the same method? -
I’ve seen this anon before. He honestly believes that "ambition" will win out.
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>after 14 years everything would go to the public domain
So nobody can have a career in game development unless they reinvent their wheel every 14 years. God you are so fucking shortsighted it’s painful to witness. -
Yep. It’s entertainment, go into a real line of work.
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>It’s entertainment, go into a real line of work.
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>go into a real line of work.
Said the NEET -
>Oh no, we have to come up with new ideas and characters every 14 years
This is pretty much what most of the industry does anyways. Even Nintendo, who reuses the same characters a ton, essentially reinvents them every game. Mario in SMO doesn’t have the same abilities as Mario in Sunshine or Mario in Galaxy, and it would almost make more sense to just change characters between the games. The only reason they don’t is brand recognition. -
Sounds like you are fine with how things work today then. Is this your concession to the argument?
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Nope, things would be better if they had to invent new characters every so often. Turning franchises over to the community gives new community talent a chance to test itself and the established talent at the company an opportunity to reinvent iteslf. Both are better for the industry as a whole.
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>Turning franchises over to the community gives new community talent a chance to test itself and the established talent at the company an opportunity to reinvent iteslf.
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>creativity is better off set to a time constraint
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If the talented people in the community want to prove themselves then they should just make their games with their own characters, it won’t help them at all to just use Mario, Link or Yoshi, in fact it might even do the opposite, seeing that many people might just make mediocre and bad games and use the fame of the characters to sell them, which is just going to saturate the market with crappy games. People don’t love any of the characters I said above just for being that characters, they love them for the fun they felt playing their games, playing Nintendo games. Your fucking idea doesn’t help anything at all, literally people will keep playing only Mario and the others games that have been made by Nintendo, because they will be the ones that are sure to have a good quality and are made by the people who know how to create good games of those franchises. Your idea will do nothing more than bring us back to the times where there was almost no quality control and companies were releasing shitty games by the bucketload and using famous brands to sell them, like what with the E.T. game.
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>Nintendo is never going to get in trouble for this
They’re literally the only ones that get in trouble for this inane shit. Hell no one even bat an eye when Sony took down XCX music a few years ago.
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Nintendo does get retribution for their actions, it’s them seemingly being unable to touch decomplitations of their games
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why do they take music off of youtube anyways, how else do we listen to it outside of the game? they don’t even have a way to buy it, so what’s the point?
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you gotta listen to it by taking your switch with you everywhere lol
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they probably just claimed it and some fag deleted it because they couldn’t make money of it.
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>This is exactly why we need more people to keep making anti company videos
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nintendo is the reason i feel no guilt when i emulate anything
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>i have become the unfeeling monster like the thing i hate. VICTORY!
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>VICTORY!
yes.
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Here’s the thing, without solid anti consumer acts it’s not going to get anywhere.
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>taking down songs from youtube that can’t be found anywhere else
It’s a shit thing to do, but a lot of japanese companies are extremely protective of their music. Hell the pokemon anime actually has to pay to use the japanese sound track
>threatening lawsuits against people who make free fangames for fun
sucks, there is no good excuse for this
>charges you money to use your own internet
literally the last console to do this and charges far less. Not a good argument
>literally stalking hackers irl, which is probably even more illegal than what the hackers are doing
Companies going after hackers who try to steal their data isn’t really a bad thing, I don’t understand your logic on this oneYes Nintendo has done some shit, problem is that it’s nowhere comparable to other AAA companies
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I love all the Nintendo hate lately. You guys really are scared, aren’t you?
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It really ramped up after nintendo moved their manufacturing away from china
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where’d it move to this time?
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Vietnam
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Nintendo fanboy loyalty towards Nintendo regardless of what the company does is a type of obedience, devotion and blind fanaticism is the kind of brand loyalty other companies like Apple can only dream of having
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I don’t think companies would want a playerbase that can turn on them at a drop of a hat.
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then those companies really need to stop doing things that piss off their consumers
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Is that why every other console they release is considered a failure while Sony has never sold less than 80m units regardless of quality? Hmmm you aren’t projecting are you?
Reality is nintendo fans are the most critical consumers in the gaming industry.
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I was referring to nintendo fanboys, not your average consumer/gamer.
If they didnt buy, for example a WiiU, then they most likely werent a fanboy-
Cool and we can use the wiiu to gauge how much of the nintendo consumer base are fanboys
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>I was talking about my boogeyman, not these transparent obvious facts standing right in front of us
Cool story bro
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>cant tell the difference between someone that plays nintendo games and a nintendo fanboy
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>heh, he can’t read my mind to know which type of my boogeymen I’m talking about
Ok, schizo-
T. nintendo fanboy
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So I’m one of those guys in your schizo brain that only owns nintendo consoles right? Right? Anon, right?
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>n-no not those people!
Ok, please enlighten us
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Here’s the thing anon, unlike say, apple or Sony, Nintendo’s fanbase doesn’t have an affinity for companies as much as the games said company produces hence why sales for major releases can wax and wane at random rather than being consistent 10m seller
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The WiiU failed horribly
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>Third world hands typed this post
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Being anti-consumer aka pro-market is not illegal, lefty.
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I want to to go look at what the melee community does along with most attention fags and the people who developed pokemon showdown.
One is just minding their business doing their niche thing, the other tries to be moral fags and thinks they can twitter outrage their way into getting Nintendo sponsorship for their 20 year old game.
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I want you to go look at*
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>literally stalking hackers irl, which is probably even more illegal than what the hackers are doing
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Never ever because they’re on the right side of the law.
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It is weird that Nintendo doesn’t create an official ost youtube channel and put the soundtracks of their newer games on stuff like Spotify, bandcamp etc. That’s a lot of free money being wasted for both Nintendo and their artists.
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There’re issues with publishers labels and whatnot, that’s why more than once their games’ OST aren’t released outside Japan.
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Are you communist?
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Nintendo is fucking garbage. Fuck them and fuck nincucks.
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Die mad at me
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>Fortnite font.
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>when’s nintendo gonna get in trouble for all the anti-consumer shit they’ve been pulling?
The only kind of "trouble" you can get into for handling your own products in a way that makes people unhappy is some boycotting and that’s about it.
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those aren’t "anti-consumer", those are twitterfaggotry
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