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    • #446732
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      Why is Atlus’s writing such dogshit? Do people seriously think this is well written or deep or meaningful?

    • #446736
      Anonymous
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      >Do people seriously think this is well written or deep or meaningful?
      well P5 is a retard magnet so i’m gonna guess yes.

    • #446738
      Anonymous
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      Yes sadly

    • #446740
      Anonymous
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      Yes people do thing it’s well written, deep and meaningful.

      These people generally had no social life in their teenage years.

      They honestly believe citing gnomish mythology makes it deep and thought provoking.

      "It was right before Wakaba died, she told me "I think I’m going to die"

      Do people seriously think this is good writing?

    • #446742
      Anonymous
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      The garbage started with Catherine. Atlus had decent writers once upon a time.

      • #446744
        Anonymous
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        Persona 3’s plot fucking sucks, if they had a robot with guns for arms why did they just not shoot the 3 antagonists who didn’t have personas?

        Atlus’ writing has always been terrible.

      • #446776
        Anonymous
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        I thought Catherine’s writing was alright.

        • #446780
          Anonymous
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          Still preachy garbage

          • #446802
            Anonymous
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            Preachy how? It doesn’t try to force some message on you as the morally correct choice. Whatever it tells you is the result of your own answers.

          • #446832
            Anonymous
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            Felt called out anon?
            Vincent and K were mid in their 30s and had been dating for over a decade. His apartment was an absolute mess and he kept blowing his paychecks on beer and phones. Dude needed to get his shit together.

    • #446746
      Anonymous
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      It’s been 5 years but pc poors are still jealous and mad as fuck, kek

      • #446748
        Anonymous
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        your game sucks

    • #446750
      Anonymous
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      No. People just play it for the waifus

    • #446752
      Anonymous
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      seethe
      cope
      dilate

      • #446756
        Anonymous
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        is there a reason you masturbate to children?

      • #446761
        Anonymous
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        …What a character…

      • #446763
        Anonymous
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        PCücks BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!!

    • #446754
      Anonymous
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      Writing doesn’t have to be deep or meaningful to be entertaining.

      • #446758
        Anonymous
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        It’s the fact that Persona tries to be deep, and the fans think it is too

        • #446790
          Anonymous
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          It tries to be deep how?

    • #446765
      Anonymous
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      Persona fans were always retarded?

    • #446767
      Anonymous
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      It’s something that going through it you either have enough perspective to be able to connect the game’s relentless criminal justice debate to something you’ve seen or come to understand, or you aren’t, and you just spend the whole time having no way to parse anything that the writing is trying to get across, thinking to yourself why Ryuji has all these scenes where it sounds like he says basically nothing, why everyone was disagreeing with him in the casino arc intro, what the point of having another boss after Shido even was, etc. The reason why you have underaged that actually think the third semester is the only good writing in the game is because that plotline is a much easier sell to teenagers than the vanilla P5 narrative which is mainly aimed at working class young adults. The third semester asks the player to mull over having an ideal world and what they think is right about that, which is infinitely more accessible than asking someone to form an opinion on the right way to reform criminals.
      Same argument against the plot of Strikers too, which takes P5’s original narrative and deliberately truncates and rewrites it to be more appealing to teenagers. Much faster pacing, bigger focus on character events, bigger focus on what the PTs want to do when they’re out of high school, shilling university as this great thing, bigger focus on making the villains relatable and much less focus on the crimes they’ve committed to the point where it made all the villains besides one midgame a complete joke, mapping characters and ideas to emotions instead of sins, deliberate cutting down of almost all the focus on what the general public is thinking about as the story progresses, and so on. You don’t hear a peep of any of the ideas that culminated in that scene with the villain shadows in Mementos from the original game in Strikers, because teenagers won’t get anything out of any of it.

    • #446768
      Anonymous
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      the narrative of P5 and why sloth is the ultimate sin of the game, that people are both afraid and too lazy to stand up to justice and prefer looking away from injustices to not feel bothered. people don’t want to be bothered, they don’t want to get involved and pretend everything is fine with society. this is how society simply functions, which is why in every society it takes the trickster, who is actually outside and condemned by society, to see through the oppressive social norms and the conformity of everybody towards it to break them up from the inside, to challenge them and relax them.

      the entire game was inspired by the fukushima disaster and how the government tried to cover up their own mistakes without barely anybody protesting it or standing up to it, and hashino wanted to create a game the young people who see themselves as outsiders or social misfits to get involved and stand up for injustice, because it can actually make society better. every confidant is supposed to be another social misfit oppressed by society, and the game ends through every confidant and ally of joker’, all those misfits, coming together to tell the god of control (which is personifcation of the average person’s habit of just wanting to go by their day and not bother with politics or injustices, i.e. sloth) to fuck off and free people from their self-induced apathy.

      if you genuinely saw nothing meaningful in p5 you are a brainlet.

    • #446770
      Anonymous
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      Imagine caring about writing in videogames, it will never not be the most insignificant thing ever in vidya

      • #446774
        Anonymous
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        So THIS is the P5 tranny cope.

        • #446778
          Anonymous
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          No retard that applies to anyone giving a shit about story regardless of quality when videogames are centered around gameplay and aren’t fucking movies

      • #446782
        Anonymous
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        i thought the same thing when i was 11 years old

    • #446784
      Anonymous
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      Royal is shit, but P5 is honestly profound and fun.

      • #446788
        Anonymous
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        >the original game is kino
        >but the objectively better version of the game sucks

    • #446786
      Anonymous
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      It’s not a battle about good versus evil…

    • #446792
      Anonymous
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      Is there a bigger red flag than
      >It’s bad because people think it’s deep!
      with absolutely no further explanation?

    • #446794
      Anonymous
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      Compared to shit like FFXV, Xenoblade 2, Tales of Arise, yeah it is.

    • #446797
      Anonymous
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      it’s better than Nomura’s

      • #446804
        Anonymous
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        KH3 roadtrip is all on Disney.

    • #446800
      Anonymous
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      >g*me has a theme
      >ITS PREACHING AT ME!!!!!!
      G*ming might be a bit too much for you, anons. Maybe some crayons and a coloring book would be better.

    • #446806
      Anonymous
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      no, P4 is the only game with good writing

      • #446834
        Anonymous
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        hahahahahaha

    • #446808
      Anonymous
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      Honestly fuck Persona, it has the pacing of a kingdom hearts game where everything important happens at the end with nothing in-between and everyone loves it.
      I’d argue Persona is even worse at it then KH because each game is like 60+ hours long on a first playthrough

    • #446812
      Anonymous
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      Because it’s more concerned with being a dating sim/high school sim than JRPG so you get egregious amount of filler and story circling the drain and it’s not like Persona is ever going to be provocative as long as the player’s character is a Gary Stu self-insert.

    • #446814
      Anonymous
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      The thing you need to understand about Persona 5 is that it is genuinely based on Japanese society. Persona 5 rings hollow in the west, because people are unaware of the cases of "esteemed Masters" stealing their student’s works, the sexual harrasment in schools and the broken legal and political systems.
      Persona 5 gets a lot better if you understand the social context, because all these things really DO happen in Japan.

      People who praise P5 without understanding the social critique are literally retarded, though.

      • #446818
        Anonymous
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        I was aware of all of these and still feel like P5’s handling of these topics is juvenile.

        Probably the most interesting part of the plot was Yaldabaoth being the mastermind behind it all, but that was only thrown in there to remind you that you’re playing an SMT game with the Law vs. Chaos angle.

        Apart from that, the game is basically Scooby Doo for high schoolers.

        • #446820
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          >and still feel like P5’s handling of these topics is juvenile
          Because ultimately, it’s not about offering any solutions, it’s about showing that these problems exist and how nice it would be if people would just stop doing it.

          • #446828
            Anonymous
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            The problem of the game is that people don’t ever do anything when they see something wrong in Japan, it’s the Japanese mentality to not get involved and to save face. The only thing P5 asks people to do is to take conscience, that alone is enough to put Shido in jail and keep Joker out.

    • #446816
      Anonymous
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      Do you really expect an 80 hour long game to have a good story?

      How many tv shows have 80 hours worth of good episodes? On rare occasions if you are lucky, with great shows like Breaking Bad, you’ll get 40-45 hours of quality writing. But that is pretty much the most you’ll get for any tv show. No tv show has more than 5 or 6 seasons of quality writing.

      Also, for the record, I’ve never played this game. I’m just speaking common sense.

    • #446822
      Anonymous
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      Honestly, as far as JRPGs go persona games are well written. People nitpick P5 purely because they want it to fail

      • #446826
        Anonymous
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        It’s not even remotely well written. It feels like a B grade seasonal anime or a discount young adult novel.

        It touches upon interesting themes, but doesn’t explore those themes very deeply. Even the moral conflict as to wheter changes people’s hearts is ethical gets quickly handwaved once Goro is revealed to be a one dimensional bad guy (a twist anyone could see coming a mile away).

        • #446836
          Anonymous
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          It absolutely addresses it(and continues beating the dead horse in Royals and Strikers). Changing someone’s heart is not ethical and it is only throwing them back into Yaldabaoth’s jail. But allowing those distortions to run rampant is an even greater evil and ultimately the PT are just because they fought those distortions. The true power of social links saves society from demise even after the PT inadvertently aided Yaldy, because they also saved people along the way.

    • #446824
      Anonymous
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      vanilla ending > royal ending

    • #446830
      Anonymous
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      You can tell they didn’t really plan what would happen in the story past Futaba’s palace
      The biggest summary of P5’s writing is when they clearly and plainly foreshadow Akechi being the black mask with the "pancakes" line, and then rather than do anything interesting with it, they play it completely straight and have the gall to pretend like their "twist" was genuinely surprising and wasn’t something they themselves blatantly set up.

      It’s not a twist, it’s Chekhov’s fucking gun.

      • #446840
        Anonymous
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        It’s not a mystery it’s a heist movie. It’s not meant to be a mystery twist, stop trying to fit a square peg in a round hole

      • #446844
        Anonymous
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        I have problems with P5, but Akechi being the traitor isn’t even really a twist. Hell, in the game over screen you can quite clearly hear that it’s him when Joker is shot.

        The real "twist" is that they knew all along and they were planning a counterattack. P5 is more akin to a heist movie, not some M Night thriller.

    • #446838
      Anonymous
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      I would rather liquidate all of my assets on card games on motorcycles than this garbage

    • #446842
      Anonymous
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      I find the main plots to be totally inane nonsense but like all the side stores.

    • #446846
      Anonymous
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      Persona is a series written for middle schoolers with P5 only getting a 15+ rating because it mentions drugs a couple times.

    • #446851
      Anonymous
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      >mfw they unironically use the line "what are you doing all of a sudden"

      That’s the kind of shit I expect to see in doujin translations

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    • #446854
      Anonymous
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      Maybe part of the fun is in the shitty writing.

    • #446855
      Anonymous
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      Who fucking cares? The characters are leaps and bounds ahead of your stagnant coomer Xenoblade waifus. Cope.

    • #446858
      Anonymous
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      >being so upset that someone invaded your special safe space that you had to make this thread

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