Why is this now regarded as the worst Doom game?

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    • #411263
      Anonymous
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      Why is this now regarded as the worst Doom game?

    • #411264
      Anonymous
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      that would be doom 3. Eternal improved on what 2016 did.

      • #411304
        Anonymous
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        >making a finishers even more important and basically essential to the game
        I wouldn’t call it an improvement.
        Especially amplified by the fact that chainsaw fuel regenerates and fodder zombie spawns are infinite, which makes your resources infinite while pretending it’s scarce – it’s pretty pathetic and gameplay boils down to a takedown spam chore.

        • #411306
          Anonymous
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          Chainsaw is more important in Eternal, but Glory kills much less so.

          • #411326
            Anonymous
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            Just because they made everything drop free armor doesn’t make this game good. It’s full of abysmal gameplay design decisions. This game is one big prolonged chore.

    • #411265
      Anonymous
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      Because they ruined everything 2016 did well just because one or two runes and the SSG were OP. Fucking retards. It’s also reddit and youtube comments and marvel.

    • #411266
      Anonymous
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      Eternal was always fucking awful and I’m sick of this board pretending it’s not. It ruined everything 2016 did right.

      • #411272
        Anonymous
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        this

      • #411289
        Anonymous
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        >everything 2016 did right

        Doom 2016 was all about the combat flow, the staggers and glory kills.
        Eternal still has this.

      • #411335
        Anonymous
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        I can’t think of a bigger example of character assassination in video games than Hayden.
        >inb4 story never mattered in doom
        Eternal is literally up your ass every 5 seconds about story shit.

        • #411337
          Anonymous
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          Hayden was a retard in Doom 2016.
          >knows Olivia will betray him
          >gives her all the resources she needs to open portal to Heck
          >gives her security codes for Red Dudes
          >what could possibly go wrong

      • #411369
        Anonymous
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        correct but mutts will seethe at this opinion

      • #411371
        Anonymous
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        where have you morons been for almost 2 years ? this board got filtered hard by Eternal to the point where people unironically shill for 3 or pretend that they liked 2016.

        • #411373
          Anonymous
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          >filtered by a game for a console audience
          Come on now.

          • #411377
            Anonymous
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            you got people mouse and keyboard that can’t handle marauders. This is the same board that exposed itself when Sekiro came out and bitched that they couldnt farm for damage increase.

            Almost two years and eternal shills can’t come up with a coherent defence of their trashfire of a game beyond >f-filtered

            you faggots just keep proving you don’t even play games. You just want to spam w+mouse 1 with one gun on all the enemies. Im convinced you didnt even play Plutonia and the first 2 dooms.

            • #411378
              Anonymous
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              Spamming m1 and w is all eternals gameplay

              >muh weapon switching

              The automatic action the game does for you before you’re too retarded to do anything for yourself in eternal.

              • #411380
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >>muh weapon switching
                >The automatic action the game does for
                literally what

              • #411384
                Anonymous
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                >Spamming m1 and w is all eternals gameplay
                all enemies have a timed falter system. you can’t just spam more than one ballista shot on a baron since he won’t falter from that gun again , and he will damage you. you have to switch to another gun to do fast damage on him.
                >The automatic action the game does for you before you’re too retarded to do anything for yourself in eternal.
                fuck are you talking about ? every heavy enemy type has splash damage attacks that can either insta kill you or take all your armor and hp (on ultraviolence and nightmare) if you act like a moron and stick close to them

            • #411379
              Anonymous
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              The solution to w+M1 isn’t to make the combat loop itself a linear process with no room for creativity. Eternal is shit.

              • #411382
                Anonymous
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                >no room for creativity
                shitter confirmed

        • #411374
          Anonymous
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          Almost two years and eternal shills can’t come up with a coherent defence of their trashfire of a game beyond >f-filtered

      • #411381
        Anonymous
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        This

    • #411267
      Anonymous
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      Doom 3 is the greatest Doom

      • #411270
        Anonymous
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        • #411274
          Anonymous
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          This ain’t your reddit hugbox melanoid.

        • #411280
          Anonymous
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          doom 3 was always considered slow since 2004, why do you tag me ?

        • #411281
          Anonymous
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          maybe because different people have different opinions? are you that fucking dense that you can’t understand that?

        • #411321
          Anonymous
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          I am pretty sure it’s based around "the doom I played is the true doom and every other doom has to be like that or it’s soulless".

          With that approach in mind, it makes perfect sense:
          Boomers who played 1 & 2 hated 3 and everything after 3 for obvious reasons.
          Millennials who started with 3 think its the best one, while old ones are outdated trash and new ones are finisher cutscene galore trash.
          Zoomers who played 2016 never knew better and would gobble any garbage disposed in their direction, so they praise both 16 and eternal.

          Reality is: Doom series was always shit with joke-tier script and it was only praised because it was the first fps not about nazis.

          • #411322
            Anonymous
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            imagine being this wrong lmao

          • #411327
            Anonymous
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            actually it was how easy it was to work with id tech engines and how good it looked while running fast. It was THE engine till quake, then till unreal.

          • #411329
            Anonymous
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            Doom 1 was my first FPS and Doom game but all Dooms are excellent except 3.

          • #411364
            Anonymous
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            I’m 33, Doom 1 was my first FPS, and the only part of the entire series that I dislike is Ancient Gods 2 because they blew their tiny dlc budget on that Avengers knockoff cutscene and made the fight with Mecha-Satan that I’ve wanted since childhood lame as FUCK. It was a wet fart ending for my favorite character.

          • #411368
            Anonymous
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            I’ve played and enjoyed every DOOM
            seethe

          • #411387
            Anonymous
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            Tryhard

        • #411375
          Anonymous
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          its called different people like different things

      • #411273
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Reddoom 3

      • #411279
        Anonymous
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        Doom 3, if nothing else, has the best sound design in the series – DOOM is fucking white noise

        • #411389
          Anonymous
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          >best sound design
          Yeah, that D3 Plasma rifle is just unreal.

    • #411268
      Anonymous
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      It’s soicore/redditcore.
      >DUDE GUNS!!! EXPLOSIONS!!!
      They gave up trying to appeal to European gamers and instead made it America: the game.
      They alienated their core fans.

      • #411278
        Anonymous
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        >implying that wasn’t the entire premise of the original doom.

        • #411282
          Anonymous
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          Yes, you never played it, just like every other plebbitor.q

      • #411294
        Anonymous
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        >European gamers
        >their core fans
        kek you were never the target audience there bucko it was made by Americans for Americans.

        • #411324
          Anonymous
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          >kek you were never the target audience there bucko it was made by Americans for Americans.

          Bullshit, there isn’t a single school in mars for us to shoot.

          • #411334
            Anonymous
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            I know you’re joking but I wish we could have more games (shooters included) with school levels. Not even for shooting stupid kids, schools just seem underused.

            • #411336
              Anonymous
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              Hmmm… I wonder why you can’t have school levels on FPS games…

              Seems like such a perfect match.

    • #411269
      Anonymous
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      Doom has gotten progressively worse with each numbered entry.

      • #411385
        Anonymous
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        anon DOOM and DOOM Eternal are not numbered entries.

    • #411271
      Anonymous
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      eternal was a huge disappointment. dreadful in so many ways except for the beautiful environments and sound. 2016 was actually fun in comparison

    • #411275
      Anonymous
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      the fuck are you all on about
      eternal is just 2016 with better level and enemy variety
      theyre the same shit
      i dont like nu-doom that much but out of the 2 eternal is the better game

      • #411283
        Anonymous
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        They’re not the same shit, more platforming, more cutscenes, remember how 2016 was a breath of fresh air because it rarely wrestled control from the player and kept you in the perspective of doomguy at all times to increase immersion? Well fuck you, third person talky cutscenes galore! I thought the game was fine but they are really not the same, you’re looking at them from a very superficial level.

        • #411292
          Anonymous
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          >more platforming
          in doom 1 and 2 you couldnt even jump and you still had platforming you had to bypass by timing your movement right.
          >more cutscenes
          all cutscenes in Eternal are skippable, even the small ones like where doomguy inserts a battery in a device.
          >remember how 2016 was a breath of fresh air because it rarely wrestled control from the player and kept you in the perspective of doomguy at all times to increase immersion
          2016 had plenty of moments whee you had Hayden lock you in a room to debrief you whilst you were stuck in first person. You couldn’t skip those. Eternal replaced 2016’s unskippable walking/talking sections with skippable cutscenes, and its much better.

          • #411305
            Anonymous
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            The stupid mission select hub isn’t skippable and just wastes your time and kills momentum.

            • #411311
              Anonymous
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              >The stupid mission select hub isn’t skippable
              melanoid what? you can select missions from the main menu, you don’t even need to return to the space hub after you beat the campaign once.
              im starting to think you faggots didnt even play the game

              • #411319
                Anonymous
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                I’m not playing this shit game more than once melanoid. A whole lotta good it does me to skip the hub AFTER i’ve already beaten the game. You’re still just selecting missions on a screen either way so it still kills momentum and pacing.

                • #411332
                  Anonymous
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                  >I’m not playing this shit game more than once
                  little zoom zoom faggot needs his dopamine fix and must move to the next game ?
                  >You’re still just selecting missions on a screen either way
                  you shouldn’t pretend to be retarded, everyone knows you are.

                  >it’s a good fucking thing
                  have a nice day and go watch movies

                  you first, naughty dog faggot

              • #411333
                Anonymous
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                You can’t til you finished the game, why would you lie?
                You won’t even progress the game past the certain points without acquiring weapons on the mothership, fucking faggot.

          • #411314
            Anonymous
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            neither of those games should have any story beyond maybe an epilogue screen

            • #411318
              Anonymous
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              it’s a good fucking thing the story is minimal and skippable
              inb4 you become a contrarian that complains about plotholes

              • #411320
                Anonymous
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                >it’s a good fucking thing
                have a nice day and go watch movies

    • #411276
      Anonymous
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      I prefer doom 2016, but eternal is still miles better than whatever shitty fps we’re getting these days

    • #411277
      Anonymous
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      It’s because Doom Eternal is a puzzle game with a shooter skin.

      There are correct ways to take out enemies and you need to make sure you ration your ammo so you have enough to take care of those enemies if and when they appear.

      I loved how in 2016 every weapon felt viable against every enemy – not the case in eternal. Think I beat the 1st level, hated it and quit since I was scavenging for ammo in a doom game.

      • #411284
        Anonymous
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        >I loved how in 2016 every weapon felt viable against every enemy – not the case in eternal.
        i got bored fast in 2016 once i realized i could jut cheese the game with one weapon on all enemies.
        The new falter system in Eternal alongside the limited ammo and weapon switch tactics made combat much more enjoyable for me.

        • #411286
          Anonymous
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          That’s fair, different strokes for different folks. I can understand why that would appeal to people. I’ve heard the same from a few people but it doesn’t work for me. Sometimes I do just want to mindlessly blast my way through with a shotgun.

          • #411288
            Anonymous
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            >2016 in the OP
            >people can’t stop seething about Eternal

            >Sometimes I do just want to mindlessly blast my way through with a shotgun.
            2016 is better for that, but Eternal is more engaging if you want a deeper experience. However, Eternal also has infinite ammo cheat…

            • #411291
              Anonymous
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              fuck it they look the same for the most part

              >Eternal also has infinite ammo cheat…

              Does 2016 really not have one? (Unless you just mean the chainsaw mechanic) That seems like something it would have.

              • #411295
                Anonymous
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                >Does 2016 really not have one?
                I have no idea. Cheats in DE are items you find in the game world and can activate in a special menu. Though it probably has console cheats as well.

                >zoom eternal: console garbage edition
                >filtered
                Are you one of those underage retards who thinks that shitsouls is hard?

                Post your Taras Nabad Master Level gameplay. Just… post the first arena. Shouldn’t be too hard.

                • #411310
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >NOOOO YOU CAN’T PROVE THAT IT’S EASY
                  Lmaoing at this zoomie. Play some actual games first, underaged melanoid.

                  • #411315
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    So you can’t do that. Interesting.

                    • #411328
                      Anonymous
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                      You are the one who is supposed to prove that this garbage is hard, you fucking imbecile.

                      • #411331
                        Anonymous
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                        I mean, it’s pretty obvious you didn’t even play the game, even though a pirate version exists. You’re just here to shitpost.

                      • #411342
                        Anonymous
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                        >NOOOO YOU HAVEN’T PLAYED
                        Holy fucking cope, zoomie. You are the one who clearly never played actual games, if you think this pile of console vomit is """""""""""""""""hard"""""""""""""""""

                      • #411346
                        Anonymous
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                        I mean, pretty obvious you didn’t. Maybe your PC can’t run it, or maybe your neurons are fried and you only get dopamine shots from shitposting.

                      • #411353
                        Anonymous
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                        >NOOOO IT CAN’T BEEEE
                        Imagine being a console shitter who thinks a movie designed for gaypads is """"hard"""". Can’t make this shit up.

                      • #411355
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        must be hard if you can’t beat it

                      • #411360
                        Anonymous
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                        >can’t beat the console movie
                        You are just a mentally ill zoomie, I see.

                      • #411361
                        Anonymous
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                        Jeez louise

                      • #411362
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Cry more how movies are hard, lmao.

      • #411285
        Anonymous
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        I get 2nd hand embarrassment from posts like this. People that can’t grasp how game mechanics work, even when there are tutorial pop-ups, and then give up a level in because they’re too retarded to figure shit out, should be fucking shot.

        • #411287
          Anonymous
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          >don’t like having to swap weapons to optimally kill an enemy
          >wa wa they doesn’t understand the mechanics !

          • #411296
            Anonymous
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            the game literately says that you USE THE FUCKING CHAIN SAW TO GET AMMO
            NOT FUCKING ONCE ON NIGHTMARE DID I EVER RUN OUT OF AMMO
            >inb4 you say LE CHAIWSAW WAS LE CHEEP XDXD I PLAY GAME TO SHOOT GUN NOT ONE SHOT WITH LE CHAIN SAW

            • #411297
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Do the words "I don’t like" not mean anything to you?

              I liked not having to worry about ammo in 2016 because it was literally everywhere, I don’t like having to press button for ammo in Eternal

            • #411317
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >redditor malding because someone insulted his "hardcore" glowing puzzle
              lawl

    • #411290
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >vee still seething about getting filtered by Doom: Eternal in 2021

      • #411293
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >zoom eternal: console garbage edition
        >filtered
        Are you one of those underage retards who thinks that shitsouls is hard?

    • #411298
      Anonymous
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      Was mobility creep in Doom Eternal mistake?

    • #411299
      Anonymous
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      i thought the nu-doom games were pretty neat.
      though eternal had more questionable design decisions such as lowering the amount of ammo, and having your normal melee do very little damage.

    • #411300
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Bright glowing glory kills and cinematic melee are cancer imo

    • #411301
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I haven’t played either of the new doom games but I still post in these threads to trigger flamewars

      • #411302
        Anonymous
        Guest

        based

      • #411303
        Anonymous
        Guest

        you evil, evil man.
        keep it up anon :]

    • #411307
      Anonymous
      Guest

      at least metadoom is still epic

    • #411308
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >why is shit with QTE and cutscenes regarded as a shit game on a franchise about going fast?
      mystery

    • #411309
      Anonymous
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      Both nuDoom games are pure garbage. Literally just play Quake 3 against Nightmare level bots, it’s a superior experience in every way.

    • #411312
      Anonymous
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      of all the nu-dooms Etranny is the worst
      its peak r*ddit + pozz
      truly a disgrace

    • #411313
      Anonymous
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      doom to 3 was dow
      d44m was dow2 and added some rpg elements
      eternal was dow3 and went all in for the moba/hero shooter market

      which ones you loved, found enjoyable, or fucking hated depends entirely on what kinds of games you like

      I didn’t like eternal, because I liked the plain and simple shooting fun
      on the other hand, I loved dead space 3 because I found the clunky survival horror/tanky controls stuff in 1 & 2 tolerable for the spooky scifi themes and exotic weapons and enemies; and 3 distilled it all out, and I totally understand why people who liked 1 & 2 for the survival horror stuff hated 3

    • #411316
      Anonymous
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      >all these retards thinking the OP picture is Eternal and not 2016
      Just goes to show people shitpost about games they know absolutely nothing about.

    • #411323
      Anonymous
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      doom was never good

    • #411325
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Doom Eternal, Titanfall 2 and Escape from Tarkov are the best FPS games released in the past 5 years. CoD kids get out.

      • #411338
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >chink doom knockoff, ai farming sim and slav browser games maker loot sim on unity with shit netcode are the best fps games
        Damn, last 5 years were really harsh for fps if that’s the best the genre has to offer.

        • #411345
          Anonymous
          Guest

          no shit. and make that the last 13-14 years. during that entire time singleplayer shooters have been limited to
          >bad Crysis sequels
          >bad Halo sequels
          >UbiCry tower collectathon reskins
          >Bioshock collectathon reskins and clones
          >nuDoom
          >the Metro movies
          that’s about it. the genre is utterly dead.

          • #411349
            Anonymous
            Guest

            We got an industry revolution actually going on, but you poorfags can’t afford it.

            • #411358
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >revolution
              >one (1) game
              yeah like how every schizo who shows up at the white house alone before getting put down is a revolution

    • #411330
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They made Doom really shit and gay, now all Doom games feel like gay shit.

    • #411340
      Anonymous
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      Doom 1 > 64 > Eternal > Plutonia > 2016 > 2 > TNT > 3

      • #411341
        Anonymous
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        >2 that low
        >Plutonia that low

        • #411348
          Anonymous
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          Yes.

      • #411352
        Anonymous
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        This

    • #411344
      Anonymous
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      I didn’t like it when it first came out, either. Everything felt too sterilized. The level design, the way combat unfolded, the weak weapon sounds. It really seemed that iD wanted to huff the farts of Doom 3 but were pulled in the direction of what people *actually* wanted, OG Doom, and had to try and meet in the middle. Only the soundtrack has any redeeming quality, IMO. Everything else feels way too neat and tidied.

      Eternal is so goddamn much better it’s such a messy chaotic game and they finally embraced the absurdity.

    • #411347
      Anonymous
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      Doom Eternal is the best game in the series

    • #411350
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why Ganker sucks nu-Doom cock so much. Its literally zoom-zoom game with flashy loot drops like in Destiny.

    • #411351
      Anonymous
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      I still think the worst-regarded mainline Doom game is 3, but 2016 isn’t a classic like the first games, or a lightspeed batshit insane slugfest like Eternal, so it’s kind of middle-of-the-road.
      I prefer 2016’s visuals to Eternal’s, though.

    • #411359
      Anonymous
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      574504996
      >last 13-14 years
      >Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
      >S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
      >Shadowrun
      >Team Fortress 2
      >Clive Barker’s Jericho
      >TimeShift
      >Brothers in Arms: Hell’s Highway
      >Battlefield: Bad Company 2
      >Left 4 Dead
      >Zeno Clash
      >ARMA 2
      >Wolfenstein 2009
      >Section 8
      >Bulletstorm
      >Red Orchestra 2
      >Titanfall
      >Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
      >Deus Ex
      >Shadow Warrior 2
      >Prey
      >Deep Rock Galactic
      >Project Warlock
      >Dusk
      >Blood: Fresh Supply
      >Amid Evil
      >Ion Fury
      >Wrath: Aeon of Ruin
      >Prodeus
      >Black Mesa
      574503830
      >the first fps not about nazis
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War

    • #411363
      Anonymous
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      It’s actually good
      Eternal was good too but the tone is completely different. I played them back to back and had whiplash because of how goofy eternal is compared to 16.

    • #411365
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I honestly prefer 2016 Doom over Eternal.
      Eternal’s number one issue, as far as I’m concerned, is that the combat had a very blatant and obvious "loop," where as 2016 felt much more like the older Doom games to me.
      That’s not to say I didn’t have any fun playing Eternal, but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t pretty stale after awhile.

      • #411367
        Anonymous
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        I’m a big FPS faggot and a Doom fan (Doom 3 is fun too) and I tried to play Eternal but couldn’t. Uninstalled after an hour because it was obvious it’s not a shooter but a fucking forced puzzle game. Shame, because it looks great etc.

        • #411376
          Anonymous
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          filtered

    • #411366
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Next master level when?

    • #411370
      Anonymous
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      I enjoy all of the doom games

    • #411383
      Anonymous
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      Feel sorry for people who can’t enjoy Eternal, but this how life works! Love Doom3 too.

    • #411386
      Anonymous
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      Is the Switch port of Doom 3 any good?

    • #411388
      Anonymous
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      It’s not!?!?

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