Why isn’t the girl who literally encompasses all of the series themes more popular?

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    • #462803
      Anonymous
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      Why isn’t the girl who literally encompasses all of the series themes more popular?

    • #462804
      Anonymous
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      People tend to skip the first three games since they’re closer to SMT

      • #462859
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Na, zoomies play P3 too

        • #462861
          Anonymous
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          P3 is the fourth game in the series, don’t forget about Eternal Punishment

          • #462873
            Anonymous
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            EP is sort of a completely pointless sequel. But I love Ulala so I cant complain.

            • #462875
              Anonymous
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              I actually like that, it’s not like Digital Devil Saga where it’s two halves of a game

            • #462881
              Anonymous
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              based Ulala appreciator

      • #462921
        Anonymous
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        >they’re closer to SMT
        Nah that’s an insult to SMT, maybe closer to the first 2 SMT.

        • #462922
          Anonymous
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          >Nah that’s an insult to SMT, maybe closer to the first 2 SMT.
          You played the SMT I and II right?

          • #462926
            Anonymous
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            They’re shit

          • #462928
            Anonymous
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            Nah, my time is to valuable to play ancient shit. Remake them and I’ll consider.

            • #462930
              Anonymous
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              If your time is valuable you shouldn’t be playing video games, especially the fucking 90 hour treks that are Persona games.

              • #462932
                Anonymous
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                My time is valuable enough to just play the cream of the crop of every franchise I’m interested in.

    • #462805
      Anonymous
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      Because Persona fans only like retarded Mary Sues like Makoto

    • #462806
      Anonymous
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      Really gotta keep it going going
      Deep down yeah knowing knowing
      What’s gonna happen next? Don’t know
      Can’t keep my eyes closed oh man it’s gone
      Looked everywhere for my identity
      Hooked everywhere did I belong to an entity?
      I don’t know where have I gone wrong?
      Wanna try me but you only got hate
      Only interested in my fate
      And insincerity’s not my way
      Any interference dodge them away
      Let there be light
      In the dark night
      Gotta get it back it’s time I get it back
      I wanna bring it back to the good old days

      • #462816
        Anonymous
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        Kino, can’t wait for the translation patch for ep:psp

    • #462807
      Anonymous
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      The only way I got through 1 and 2 IS/EP was by fast forwarding through most of the battles and cheating at the casino.

    • #462808
      Anonymous
      Guest

      P1 and P2 are too hard for the modern Persona ‘fanbase’ and don’t have dating elements so they wouldn’t care anyway.

      • #462809
        Anonymous
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        2 is the easiest game in the franchise

        • #462842
          Anonymous
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          *the PSP version of Innocent Sin is the easiest game in the franchise.

          • #462843
            Anonymous
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            The PSX version isn’t very hard either.
            Eternal Punishment on the other hand…

            • #462848
              Anonymous
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              both versions are pretty easy in my opinion, you never have to fuse any personas if you just pick the right dialogue choices

              >The PSX version isn’t very hard either
              I’m aware (which is why the difficulty nerf in the PSP version is so baffling to me), but I’d still say the PSX version of IS gave me at least more trouble than say 4 Golden and 5

              I wonder, is P1 PSP also easier than the PS1/Revelations version? I always thought it was way too easy, even in the Snow Queen route it’s almost impossible to die

              It is, but it’s not as braindead as IS was.

              • #462865
                Anonymous
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                >but I’d still say the PSX version of IS gave me at least more trouble than say 4 Golden and 5
                melanoid I played large parts of PS1 IS at 300 FPS just mashing buttons like a retard because it pretty much did not matter what you did, at all. It’s the absolute most braindead Persona game of them all. Even 1 had some highlights like some incubi or whatever charming your entire part and raping you in the process during your first turn.
                EP was at least much less button mashy because they probably realized they were retarded in IS and actually added enemies with different reflects early on, which basically meant you are going to die if you mash like a retard.

                • #462868
                  Anonymous
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                  okay? cool, dude.

          • #462845
            Anonymous
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            both versions are pretty easy in my opinion, you never have to fuse any personas if you just pick the right dialogue choices

          • #462846
            Anonymous
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            I wonder, is P1 PSP also easier than the PS1/Revelations version? I always thought it was way too easy, even in the Snow Queen route it’s almost impossible to die

            • #462849
              Anonymous
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              I think revelations makes the encounter rate less AIDS and gives you more exp which the psp version doesn’t do so I’m guessing no

              • #462850
                Anonymous
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                Revelations Persona actually gimped you severely as they didn’t increase the money or item drops so you actually had to grind even longer than in the original version of the game. Whenever I replayed it I just hacked max money in because fuck that.

                • #462851
                  Anonymous
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                  that’s really dumb lol

                • #462916
                  Anonymous
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                  that’s really dumb lol

                  money isnt that big of an issue in Rev though, items drop 90% of the time and you can just sell them, the only thing you should be really buying is armor since weapons are from enemies only
                  unless your constantly hoarding items then money isnt a problem

            • #462856
              Anonymous
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              Mark unironically looks better as a blackie and Elly looks better blonde, to be honest. Original mark looks like garbage, and original Elly is just kinda boring more than anything else. Not to say they make any sense whatsoever setting wise, it was a retarded choice by the localization team. Still, visually they were better.

              • #462858
                Anonymous
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                Nanjo/Nate looks nice blonde too.

                • #462863
                  Anonymous
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                  Agreed. I feel like unlike the other two he works well enough both ways, just in different flavor.

              • #462862
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >original Elly is just kinda boring more than anything else
                You take that back m8

                • #462864
                  Anonymous
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                  Shame the original English translation didn’t make her as batshit, probably where the other anon got the ‘boring’ from.

                  • #462866
                    Anonymous
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                    same I loved that part about her

                  • #462867
                    Anonymous
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                    >they made her a white supremacist instead
                    What the fuck, Atlus USA

                    • #462869
                      Anonymous
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                      some of these lines sound so wrong it’s not even funny

                    • #462870
                      Anonymous
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                      My blonde haired blue eyed aryan princess is CUTE, CUTE!

                    • #462872
                      Anonymous
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                      I genuinely wish it was allowed to portray horrible batshit people like this in videogames even on a satirical level these days. It added a hilarious flavor to the translation to have shit like that.

                • #462871
                  Anonymous
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                  Sorry. She just really doesn’t come off as noteworthy as she is supposed to be compared to the rest of the cast when she just has an everyday japanesse girl look to herself.
                  Obviously that’s the whole stigma japanesse girls have to undergo to begin with and might even be an accurate part to her character being obsessed with standing out and being prettier than the rest since you can put twenty asian women in one room and lose your own child amongst them, but strictly speaking from an aesthetic point she just comes off better blonde to me. Aryan beauty standards are hard to shake off.

              • #462894
                Anonymous
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                The thing with the original localization is that they were trying their damndest to make it Not Japan despite you know, Japanese high school, shrines, etc. Basically doing what Phoenix Wright did years before he was a thing. They didn’t even fully commit to it as Yuki and several other characters weren’t modified to make them less Japanese.

                • #462899
                  Anonymous
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                  SIT DOWN AND EAT YOUR HAMBURGERS

            • #462913
              Anonymous
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              the revelations version is actually alot of fun compared to the PSP port if you can get past the 4kids translation and the item management
              >better battle animations and sfx
              >encounter rate isnt ass
              >more exp after battle
              >one of the best OST in megaten
              >UI filled with soul and you can change the text boxes
              >the charming 3D overworld
              i unironically prefer it over the PSP port, someday i wish someone would finally translate it the jap version or just fix the revelations version itself

              • #462917
                Anonymous
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                >someday i wish someone would finally translate it the jap version or just fix the revelations version itself
                Same, one day I’ll learn japanese and play the original. Until then, at least we have the patch that restores some of the music.

                • #462919
                  Anonymous
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                  The PSP version replacing almost all the music was bad, but the worst part is that they didn’t even have enough new music to replace everything they took out. Like.. why just leave in the old tracks instead of repeating the new music over and over?

                  • #462923
                    Anonymous
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                    whats worse is that they also completely removed the alternate tracks in the PSP ver, really goes to show how much effort was put into the psxs ost and how botched it ended up becoming
                    https://youtu.be/cnsvC7CRF58

                    • #462929
                      Anonymous
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                      >removed the cool SMT chanting before you press "attack" and the battle theme kicks in during boss fights
                      >removed the special battle theme when a character awakens their persona
                      literally sovlless

        • #462844
          Anonymous
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          >P5/P5R exist
          lol no kneegrow

        • #462877
          Anonymous
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          the only gameplay related thing i remember from IS is using fire-wind-fire fusion spell for first third of the game and getting curbstomped by nyarlothotep
          also cards, fuck cards

          • #462878
            Anonymous
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            >fuck cards
            This. The card system in P1 was perfectly fine, I don’t get why they changed it.

            • #462880
              Anonymous
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              innovation for the sake of innovation

            • #462882
              Anonymous
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              That reminds me that P1 had the best Velvet Room and Persona creating cutscene in the series. That chaotic music with the blowing wind while the two cards fuse into a Persona and Igor makes a phone call followed by the calm music while the new Persona greets you was so nice. I also missed how Personas had wills of their own in the first two games compared to 3 and 4 as sometimes one will pop out during negotiations and ask it’s kin to cooperate and they’ll happily give you their cards/items.

      • #462812
        Anonymous
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        It’s more like they are too dated looking for zoomies that are used to the persona 3 style onwards

        • #462813
          Anonymous
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          They’ll butcher them in any potential remake too. The PSP version of 1 ruining the soundtrack was disgusting.

        • #462814
          Anonymous
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          Have zoomers even played 3? I’d imagine that is "dated" for them as well

          • #462815
            Anonymous
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            As a Persona 2 fan, this chart is 100% accurate damn

          • #462817
            Anonymous
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            Where the fuck does the idea that zoomers haven’t played PS2 come from?
            Rent free

            • #462819
              Anonymous
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              >old ancient anon can’t cope with the fact the PS3 came out in 2006 and that there are people using this site were born after that fact and have no interest in the PS2 for being too old

              • #462822
                Anonymous
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                I cant either I hate zoomers and all technology made after 08 is evil and satanic

              • #462874
                Anonymous
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                • #462876
                  Anonymous
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                  >old ancient anon still trying to save face

                  • #462879
                    Anonymous
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                    […]

                    Joke’s on you. Unless you have a nice day, you’ll be old one day too!

                    • #462883
                      Anonymous
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                      I’m already old anon but I acknowledge the horrible passing of time.

          • #462886
            Anonymous
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            What’s wrong with the cat marching band video? It’s just a simple fun one.

          • #462893
            Anonymous
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            As a Persona 2 fan, this chart is 100% accurate damn

            As a Persona 1 fan this chart is also 100% accurate.

          • #462907
            Anonymous
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            As a p4 fan I indeed see the p3 fans as edgy kids,I don’t hate P5 though. Not that I don’t want to know about P1 and p2, but it’s hard to get into p2 because of its pace and people keep saying that P1 is a bad game.

            So it’s accurate I guess

            • #462908
              Anonymous
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              P1 isn’t a bad game other than the butchering the localized PS1 version got.
              Also the only edgy party member in P3 is Shinji who has his reasons for being a jerk.

              • #462909
                Anonymous
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                >Also the only edgy party member in P3 is Shinji who has his reasons for being a jerk.
                This. I’ve never really understood at all the reputation of P3 characters being edgy. It’s always confused me more than anything because of how upbeat and energetic most of the cast tends to be. I’m assuming the design of the MC is what leads people to assume that? Because I can’t think of anything about Yukari, Junpei, Mitsuru, Akihiko, or any of the other characters that would come off as remotely edgy.

                • #462910
                  Anonymous
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                  I mean hell, you have a dog as a party member. Not a magical talking bear or a cartoon cat, just a dog. Super edgy puppy I guess.

                • #462911
                  Anonymous
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                  Everything with a hint of maturity or seriety in a game is edgy for these people. If characters don’t quip or have witty retorts at bad things happening, the characters are trying too hard.

                  • #462912
                    Anonymous
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                    and even then you have Junpei occasionally doing that at the start and even your character can be a quipper in dangerous situations (funnier with FemMC as Junpei remarks that girls are nuts).

                    • #462914
                      Anonymous
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                      >Be FemMC
                      >Able to choose so many "genki girl" dialogue choices, people begin to wonder if you are wrong in the head
                      >One of the social links involves literally snapping and beating the shit out of another girl for insinuating your friend is a whore
                      >It’s an optional thing to do, but if you do, next dialogue with that girl will involve her backing away from you and darting off into the sunset
                      >Junpei sneaks and faps to your volleyball pictures while simultaneously raging at you for being a better leader than him
                      >You can call the jogging girl fat so many times she cries about it
                      >/ss/
                      P3P had a lot of hilariously unexpected things.

                      • #462918
                        Anonymous
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                        If a remake ever does happen I hope they include FemMC’s route in full but I know it will never happen due to all the extra work it would involve.
                        Having the severely cut down PSP version as the only way to experience her story is sad.

                • #462920
                  Anonymous
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                  because people see the themes of death in P3 as "edgy and dark" when its meant to be how you should live your life to the fullest

          • #462915
            Anonymous
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            Literally all P3 remake fags are zoomers who are too pussy to play the original even though it plays almost exactly like P4 just with the training wheels off

          • #462924
            Anonymous
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            P3 fans seem the most based.

          • #462925
            Anonymous
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            Top left to bottom right diagonal for me

            • #462927
              Anonymous
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              have higher standards

              • #462931
                Anonymous
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                Stop being a tribalist fag

          • #462938
            Anonymous
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            This chart is 100% accurate.
            I loved Persona 1 but found 2 boring.
            Persona 3 and 4 aren’t even the same kind of game.
            Skipped 5 because it looks gays as fuck but maybe thats just me being in my 30s.

      • #462933
        Anonymous
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        Is it bad that i don’t like clunky outdated games?

        • #462935
          Anonymous
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          Yes, it means you’re an ADHD faggot who wants instant gratification and tutorials telling you what to do for 100 percent of the game.

          • #462936
            Anonymous
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            Glad we’re past that age of games

    • #462810
      Anonymous
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      HOLY SHIT! JOKER FROM PERSONA!?

    • #462811
      Anonymous
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      P1 and 2 might as well be a different series from the ones that came after tbh, they’re nothing alike

      Also Eriko is best girl

    • #462818
      Anonymous
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      out of the way losers

      best girl coming through

      • #462820
        Anonymous
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        Ayase/Alana is the cuter pigtailed girl.

      • #462821
        Anonymous
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        AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
        BARK BARK
        WOOF WOOF WOOF
        AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • #462823
      Anonymous
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    • #462824
      Anonymous
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      > This is a strange topic, but someone like me, who does character designs, probably feels similarly to Victor when I see a cosplayer; seeing the things I created move and dance really makes me feel like him. Isn’t there something like a cosplay sex industry nowadays? I kind of want to try it and ask for Sonomura Maki (laughs). They’d probably tell me ‘Oh! I see, hmm’ and then look for her on the Internet. That would be really unpleasant
      What Kaneko meant by this

      • #462825
        Anonymous
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        I hated that she cut her hair that short after the time skip.

        • #462831
          Anonymous
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          Kaneko is a mommyfag so he made P2 Maki look like her mother either intentionally or subconsciously

      • #462826
        Anonymous
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        he meant that he finds 16 year old girls attractive (based)

      • #462828
        Anonymous
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        Maki is based on a JAV actress

        • #462830
          Anonymous
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          I need proof of this.
          Now.

          • #462832
            Anonymous
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            I shit you not

            • #462834
              Anonymous
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              Aw, he didn’t say exactly who was the inspiration.
              Yuki Uchida is cute at least.

            • #462835
              Anonymous
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              >doll-like in some respects
              He’s talking about bondage porn isn’t he

              • #462837
                Anonymous
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                Where did you get the design in that high of a resolution?

                • #462841
                  Anonymous
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                  I’m a scrub so I just downloaded most of demon/persona renders from megaten wiki some time ago

    • #462827
      Anonymous
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      1. Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
      2. Persona 2: Innocent Sin
      3. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
      4. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable
      5. Revelations Persona
      6. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
      7. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 5

    • #462829
      Anonymous
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      P1 was the best seller til 5. She’s still pretty popular, and cute.

    • #462833
      Anonymous
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      So this might be a bit of a dumb question but did the events of Persona still occur in the EP Universe as they did in the IS Universe?

    • #462836
      Anonymous
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      posting best girl

    • #462852
      Anonymous
      Guest

      When?

      • #462855
        Anonymous
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        You just want to see the monkey paw in action again, do you?

    • #462853
      Anonymous
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      >People complain about Persona being in High School
      >It started there

    • #462854
      Anonymous
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      Dream of Butterfly

    • #462857
      Anonymous
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      maki if she real

      • #462860
        Anonymous
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        SEX

    • #462884
      Anonymous
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      Do P1, P2fags respect persona 3? I know you think 4 and 5 are overrated as hell but I don’t see P3 get the same amount of hate

      • #462885
        Anonymous
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        personally I like all of the games, P3 is definitely my favorite "modern" persona game
        t. P2fag

      • #462887
        Anonymous
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        I didn’t like how it threw out most aspects of the first two games but I still had fun with it. My biggest bitch about P3 was Shadows as enemies instead of gods/monsters/etc. and no negotiations.

      • #462888
        Anonymous
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        P3 introduced the cringe but kept the gritty and edgelordliness mixed with cosmic horror. It kept in line with Persona expectations of doing something weird/new every time a new game came out.
        P4 and P5 get shit because after they hit popularity with P3, they simply stopped trying and regurgitated the same effortless shit over and over and over without even bothering to change the angle, formula, characters or setting in any way or angle, while simultaneously cutting down on everything that still gave the setting a semblance of seriety in flavour of teenage angst.

        • #462890
          Anonymous
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          My thoughts exactly.

        • #462892
          Anonymous
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          Yeah, P3 had this lowkey feeling of dread and approaching doom that got more and more pronounced as the end of the year approaches. P4 didn’t even come close to trying to match that despite there being a serial killer on the loose.

      • #462895
        Anonymous
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        no we definitely don’t

      • #462896
        Anonymous
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        P3 to me feels like the last time Persona did anything that felt new and refreshing for the series. Everything that came after it feels like it just focused too much on refining what P3 established and did well rather than taking any risks like 3 did. Not to say 4&5 are bad games, but I feel like they don’t do anything to stand out as much.

      • #462897
        Anonymous
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        No, Persona 3 was not popular enough so it’s OK to still like it. I have to have Persona 4 and 5 though because they’re popular.

        • #462898
          Anonymous
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          From what I’ve seen from this thread anons here are not contrarian for the sake of it. And you’re doing a bad job fitting in redditor

      • #462905
        Anonymous
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        I like it more than 4 and 5, even though it’s kinda flawed. It felt like it was trying different things, they had an interesting theme with memento mori and it feels like everything you do in the game relates to it. I basically consider it to be a different, unrelated thing to 1 and 2 though, even if it references things like Nanjo and Nyx.

        4 and 5 were just kind of uninteresting to me, and I’ve never finished 5. I just want to go to dungeons and shoot demons, not go through hours of visual novel/social simulation crap. I’m the kind of person who enjoyed The Answer, because it was basically P3 with that crap cut out.

        • #462906
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I have no idea why Nate being exactly the same cracked me up the most.

    • #462889
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Best girl

      • #462891
        Anonymous
        Guest

        sorry wrong pic

    • #462900
      Anonymous
      Guest

      guys I played the first 2 Persona games!!! I’m so unique!!

      • #462901
        Anonymous
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        you should play the other three, they’re really good games too.

      • #462902
        Anonymous
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        No you’re not since people in this thread did too.

      • #462903
        Anonymous
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        i recommend you play eternal punishment too

      • #462904
        Anonymous
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        Well you are missing at least one game it seems, to back to it you go, zoomie.

    • #462937
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I like Eriko.

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