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>work on game for reasonable amount of time
>leave company
>company omits your name from the credits
>credit stolenHeads would roll if this was anything but a Nintendo game. Instead the fans are more concerned about people emulating/pirating the game than an apolitical industry issue.
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I don’t care. Nintendo, Sony, Fromsoft, whoever. I don’t care.
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fpbp
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maybe he shouldn’t have left the company
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>cant pursue other opportunities or else credit stolen because you didnt meet the company’s arbitrarily decided amount of time you have to be on the project to get credited
bootlicker-
You put games you worked on on your CV anon? No, you out the company and the duration you worked there.
Go donate to Patreon if you want to be credited something-
> You put games you worked on on your CV anon?
Yes, game developers absolutely do this.-
>And employers scrub through the credits of every game rather than contact X company for fact checking.
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No, they don’t you retard.
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>not listing major projects you worked on that a potential employer may recognize to stand out from the crowd
you’re telling me devs dont do this??? lmao devs are retards
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Yes I’m sure every 3D designer, artist and coder whacks ever single game they ever did and what the made for it on their two page CV of the last five years of work
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you’re either serious about something or you’re not
don’t expect your name on something you didn’t finish-
I’ve seen peoples names in things for doing nothing but asking for a credit. just give people the credit if they actually did work
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Sort of defeats to point of those who worked on it if anyone gets a credit.
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It happened for both the scott pilgrim game, sonic mania(pretty sure 90% of the credits didnt actually work on the game) and some random indie games I worked on like real myst and bloodstained also just gave people credits despite doing almost nothing or asking for it.
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I have my name on bloodstained, and wonderful 101 remaster which means I probably have my name on more games than some of the mercury steam people who actually worked on games. Lol
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Don’t these people have to accept these arbitrary terms on the first place? Why be a bitch about it?
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>bootlicker
you’ll never be a real woman, you know.
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Code monkeys are expendable and worth less than their paycheck, the opinions of expendables who couldn’t follow orders well enough to keep a job are worth nothing
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This happened before. I think it was Nintendo last time, too.
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it was rockstar as well
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Why should I care? How do the credits affect my ability to play the game? I ain’t reading the credits.
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>Did you work on a game?
>Yes.
>Ok here is your name on the credits. This may also help you in future career prospects.
Simple as.
>Why should I care?
Nobody’s asking you to.-
>Hiring employee
>"Where did you previously work?"
>"At X Company."
>"Kay."
>"Don’t you want to see my name in the credits of this random ass game?"
>"No. Not really. That is possibly the most inefficient way to find out if you worked on a project or not. I’ll just call your previous employer."-
>Pulls out YouTube video of the credits and finds name
>See, will you hire me now?
And that’s how I never got a job -
You could also have a signed proof of employment/employment verification letter prepared before, when, or after leaving for an even more convenient reference.
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this has literally never happened, resume is all that matters. credits are just for autofellatio.
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Literally no one reads the credits.
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I do
because i have friends in the industry and i like seeing their names show up among all the other 300 artists to show support-
How does you looking at their names show support? Or is that a useless self-gratification term like ‘raisng awareness’.
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Okay, well, SOME people read the credits.
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Haven’t you seen Dawson’s Creek?
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>company requires you to notify them 40 days beforehand if you want to leave
>leave without previous notice
>bitch about it having consequences -
windows developers don’t get credited, apple developers don’t get credited, 99% of website developers don’t get credited. who the fuck gives a shit if some faggot that worked a company for a month or less doesn’t get credited on a game?
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>Heads would roll if this was anything but a Nintendo game
kek -
Nintendo is the scummiest video game company there is. why does this surprise you?
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Remember that time Sony was hacked and waited a week to tell millions of users their address and bank information was on the internet?
Probably not zoomer.-
and? what does that have to do with anything?
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Shows there are other worse scummy companies out there retard
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well no company is your friend. all of them have done the worst bad and when they felt the bad was so over the line that anyone could see it, they suddenly are good to you again.
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English motherfucker
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>they suddenly are good to you again
Who are you quoting
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Nah I don’t think omitting information is worse than sending goons to people’s houses because they leaked info about your next hardware or game. Nintendo is still king of scumbags
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Think about the information being omitted dumbfuck
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Yeah, losing your savings is worse than getting pulled in an alley and mysteriously disappeared because videogames are serious business?
You wanna talk personal info, ok how about Nintendo’s surveillance programs complete with hired investigators over modders, emulators and fan game producers of their IPs?Thank you based corporation! Let us all buy their next product fellow Ganker users!
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>Yeah, losing your savings is worse than getting pulled in an alley and mysteriously disappeared because videogames are serious business
One thing is real, the other isn’t retard.-
Ok drone. Even fucking Etika had a video where he talked about "Nintendo ninjas" coming to a friend’s home and acting threatening and making questions.
Nintendo colludes with organized crime, start believing it fanboy diverse folk.-
I don’t even give a shit about Nintendo. One fucking anecdotal mention from.a dude with mental illness is not evidence of anything you idiot.
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Have you read some of the things Etika wrote before he killed himself? The man was disconnected from reality, and was involved in gangstalking communities.
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Dude don’t be a racist for once in your miserable life
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Do you think gangstalking means joining a gang or something? Legitimately can’t understand how you would see racism in that otherwise.
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>fan game producers of their IPs?
Well, it’s their IP anon. Not the fan creators.-
Firstly that doesn’t justify anything
Secondly companies being draconian about fan games is 100% greedy boomer shit and has no basis in any logical sense other than rich fucks thinking fan games will hurt their IP’s image or revenue.
The sad part is that fan game makers should learn to keep their projects secret and distribute them without too much of a fuss so that companies wouldn’t be able to step in and DMCA as easily. But their pride is their downfall-
>Stealing is okay
Stopped reading. Don’t be an idiot. -
Please be bait, you can’t be this much of a golem
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You clearly learnt what a golem was today anon
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>goons to people’s houses because they leaked info about your next hardware or game
I don’t think there is anything wrong with this. You mess with a company’s product you deserve the consequences. -
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ESL leave
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>imposing consequences for breaking your contract is infinitely worse than letting millions of people have their bank information stolen and not even giving them a heads up so they could take action
Also, Mercury Steam isn’t nintendo
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>join one development day before printing
>WHY ISN’T MY NAME ON THE GAME I WANTED TO BE CREDITED IN THE SAME LINE AS PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON IT THE ENTIRE TIMEApplies to multiple industries, not just games or even nintendo
>gave out two games for it
>sorry prease understand, enjoy fattu princess and wipeouto
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MercurySteam =/= Nintendo
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>Nintendo is the scummiest video game company there is. why does this surprise you?
Put a fucking bullet in your skull, snoy.-
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>NINTENDO IS THE SCUMMIEST EVAR
>here’s just 1 (ONE) thing sony has done that’s worse than every scummy thing nintendo has done put together
>WHY ARE YOU CHANGING THE SUBJECT?-
>heres just one thing no one even cares about because i need to express my rage against sony on an hourly basis to distract from nintendo’s usual EA-tier bullshit
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>no one even cares about
Outed as underaged. Move on. -
>millions of bank accounts were stolen
>and that’s not even the bad part
>"NO ONE CARES!!!1!"
>"Nintendo’s usual EA-tier bullshit!"
>when it was a company other than nintendo executing consequences for breaking a contract after ex employees broke said contract
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> Spain* is the scummiest video game company there is. why does this surprise you?
fixed
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Oh shit, it’s over.
Nintendo doesn’t dare to respond.
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Reminder that MercurySteam is not on Dread’s boxart not even on the backside nor are they even on the title screen. For all intents and purposes a casual consumer looking at the game would assume it was an in-house Nintendo title.
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Honestly at this point I’m half expecting Nintendo just to straight up buy them out like they did with Rare and Retro.
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MS hasn’t displayed half the quality those two studios and they just sold half the company to another third party
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This is a good thing though
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Nintendo is my friend so it’s okay if they do bad things they didn’t mean it.
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Honestly this. I love them so much bros
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It’s not even Nintendo, it’s Mercury Steam.
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every company does this shit
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>have a stated policy on work done for name in the credits
>was very likely in the terms of your contract
>bitch when it happens only because the game was a success
Nothing’s stopping these people from still putting the game in their CVs -
Every thread from development hell I wonder myself, is there any reason to not work on indie exclusively?
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game dev seems fucked as hell. Indie is too risky unless you already have an established reputation, and AAA gamedev is a shit ton of crunch and shitty work practices/culture for a quarter of the pay and twice the hours that high quality web dev or corporate software application development pay.
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>Work for huge publisher
>they give you a chance to make a triple A game for them
>Every single person you’ve hired to make that game somehow does not make it into the Gold you ship out to NInty for review
>Ninty now tasked with finding out literally everyone who worked for the game or else they’re unfair bigots -
Fun game, don’t care.
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>Heads would roll if this was anything but a Nintendo game.
Zenimax did exactly that with John Carmack’s work on Doom 2016. He was the co-lead engine programmer and he’s also the reason Snapmap exists. -
>sign contract that says "your name won’t be in the credits if you don’t work here for at least 25% of dev time"
>leave company before you’ve been there for 25% of dev time
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY AM I NOT IN THE CREDITS
are all spaniards this retarded-
That doesn’t make it okay
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clearly they thought it was okay, or they wouldn’t have signed the contract
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Don’t sign a contract with terms you don’t acknowledge the terms of. Additionally, it seems that the main dude in the initial report broke termination protocol to top it off. It’s also strange that people seem to feel that being in the credits is the only way to have proof of employment or to validate an inclusion of a project on your resume.
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Because all these people moaning about it either don’t have jobs or have a CV with five lines in it and don’t understand you don’t list everything you do on it.
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>happens constantly in gaming industry
>dev keep mouth shut because they don’t want to get blacklisted
>last time there was any controversy it was for Kojima who was worshiped
>dev of metroid dread doesn’t keep his mouth shut
>story will go nowhere
>dev will be blacklisted from ever working for anyone -
Don’t care, buying three copies as i post.
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>join new job same week they are handing out bonuses
>WHAT THE FUCK WHERE IS MY BONUS I WORK HERE TOO -
They got paid anyway so fuck off.
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Credit is how they get a new job. Metroid dread will probably be GOTY and they won’t be able to say “hey look I worked on the GOTY”
You are defending this
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You shouldn’t be saying that in your CV either. You say the date you worked there and when you left.
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You’ve never worked a day in your life anon
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They shouldn’t have left then, i will credit you when you complete the work.
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>put game on your resume as work done
>company hiring you calls the manager of your previous studio to confirm credits
>manager says yes even if you aren’t in the in-game credits
Simple as. -
NO ONE READS THE CREDITS
THEY DO NOT MATTER-
They shouldn’t have left then, i will credit you when you complete the work.
As someone who does title crawls for movies for a living, you’re all making me kind of sad
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If it makes you feel better I actually do enjoy credits. I am also autistic though, so take that for what it’s worth.
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It’s not meant to be disparaging when people say those things. It’s just the apparent reality for a lot of people who go to theaters or watch shows and film through other means.
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I just realized that a real fucking fun joke in a movie would be if it had TITLE CRAWL CREATOR with all sorts of special effects and shit as the first and most prominent credit
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So do people actually read credits? I hope Kotaku is sitting through each credit sequence. Ideally Far Cry 2 and AC Rogue.
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I wouldn’t want to be associated with development of a mobile game.
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Agreed but we aren’t talking about a mobile game here, keep up anon.
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>a twitter screencap of a clickbait headline
everybody else ITT is a faggot -
>kotaku obsessed with nintendo
can the hulkster kill these diverse folk forever -
Discussion is literally pointless here because it’s always nintendo good everyone else bad
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Spotted the asshurt snoy.
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>No examples
Retard. This credit stuff isn’t even about Nintendo and it was retarded before Nintendo did it. If you sign a contract and don’t follow the terms, get fuckedm
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**YOU ARE ENTERING A SNOY SHILL THREAD**
Before you reply bump this thread, consider the fact that it was made by a pathetic rogue snoy, whether paid or not by Snoy themselves. Snoy has been paying top dollar to shill Nintendo hate on Ganker in fear of the Switch’s consistently dominating success and moviestation 5 having no games – in pathetic attempt to defame Nintendo and deprive them of potential sales.
>What do I do when I see a snoy shill/Nintendo flaming thread?
Don’t fucking respond. That’s all you have to fucking do. Report it for flaming or advertisement and if you need to tell the snoys off, then sage your post.
>What is snoy falseflagging?
Sometimes the snoy may pose as a Nintendo fan while and despite actively flaming Nintendo, they may attempt to pose as a "jaded" fan of Nintendo in tryhard attempt to hide themselves as a snoy while still pooping on them. This is referred to as snoy falseflagging. This is easily exposed by the thread or post implying they are a Nintendo consumer, despite the thread or post itself disparaging them. (e.g. "But I like/used to like Nintendo", "I don’t even like snoy", etc.). Let the snoys die on their own.
Thank you for noting.
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IT’S. OKAY. WHEN. NINTENDO. DOES. IT.
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Plenty of companies do this, but it wasn’t until now that people started noticing and complaining about it. If anything, that means it’s okay when everyone BUT Nintendo does it
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Do people actually read credits?
Who the fuck cares about them -
It’s garden gnometindo so it’s ok if they did immoral acts, but if it was another company we should riot and cancel them
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I bring my Kickstarter credits to job interviews too because it’s important that people know I was involved.
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>day before game releases
>fire every single employee
>remove all their names from credits
>game releases with myself as the sole person responsible for all the music, game design, art, etc
I think those Spaniards are onto something -
>break contract
>face consequences for breaking contract
>shitaku writes an article about how this is evil
>snoy on retardera reads the headline of this article and makes a thread on Ganker-
>break contract
Any proof of this?-
See
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There are unironically multiple reasons they could have been removed from the credits because of their contract.
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https://nintendoeverything.com/metroid-dread-devs-from-mercurysteam-speak-out-after-not-being-included-in-credits/
>Mejías, who has since left MercurySteam, says he may not be appearing in the credits for Metroid Dread steaming from his departure from the company. He says the studio includes a clause in contracts that requires employees to provide 42 working days notice if they intend to leave their positions – it’s worth noting that Spain has a workers’ statute of only 15 days as a minimum. When Mejías left MercurySteam before providing the required notice, he was hit with a financial penalty.Imagine how all of this would look to prospective employers doing a quick search of the people involved.
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>"Alright, we’re just gonna do a simple background check, standard procedure"
>"P-please don’t…"
>"Nothing to worry about, just a quick google to see if there’s anything on your social media that would reflect badly on the company, you probably have nothing to worry about unless you’re doing something illegal on a profile with your real name. Now let’s see here… Now wait a second, it says here you broke a contract, got punished for it, and then did an interview to try and smear your former bosses for it? Hit the bricks, spic." -
THIS is what people have been calling nintendo (even though this has nothing to do with them) "the scummiest video game company of all time" for in this thread? Fucking THIS?
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the discordfags are really grasping at straws, yeah.
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Not just that, they’re promoting and defending shitaku over this.
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Don’t even bother
/v/intendoGAF will obviously defend them while deflecting to muh SNOY-
Yes, you’ve been saying in this thread, hence why the poster amount didn’t change retard.
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It’s my first post
You’re a fucking schizo if you keep track of poster counts to defend your precious company
Fuck this biased shithole-
>Can’t dispute with evidence
Ngmi -
If you’re this easily baited you shouldn’t be here.
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>replies 94
>IPs 49
Gee I wonder why there’s SO MANY nintendo defenders in here… Truly am facing a horde of righteous crusaders… Damn I wouldn’t wanna anger all these brave nintendo fans…-
I’m three different people in this thread and none of you will ever know
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>not even 6 hours
LMAOOOOO-
I can’t decide whether to watch the movie on youtube or emulate it for free. Can Ganker help me decide?
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dont play it
you dont deserve to enjoy this great game -
Obviously play the game over watching someone else.
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Don’t be a cuck, play the girl, don’t watch other people playing her.
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Of course play it yourself, don’t waste a chance to experience a game on youtube videos.
Plus stealing from corpos is always based -
don’t give youtubediverse folk views.
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Emulate.
2gen i7 + 970 running great. Playing it using a ps5 controller
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Can’t wait until they get sued for this. Between everyone jumping ship because of the shitch online price hike and now this, shitendo is gonna be bankrupt by the end of next year.
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People who never worked for nintendo are gonna sue nintendo because they broke their contract with mercury steam, their employer, and had the punishment listed in their contract for breaking the contract enacted? How exactly does that work?
Also, gotta love the classic "dead since 1889" posting, never gets old.
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I’ve been working in games for 14+ years.
Fuck anyone who leaves a project before it ships. The last 10% is harder than the first 90%.
Anyone who leaves before a game is shipped at best deserves a credits in the special thanks section.
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>crunching an indieshit game as a AAA game company
What the fuck is nintendo’s problem?
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If they were really "developers" then they would have been credited. What made them present themselves as more than what they really are is likely the same reason they ghosted the companies involved.
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NOT THE HECKIN CREDITORINOS!!!
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What is it about dread that has kotaku’s panties wedged up their stinkditch? They’ve always been pretty neofag/reeeesetera tier, but why are they zeroing in on dread so hard?
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It’s a great game that, strangely enough, has a fuckton of people’s ass erupt in a literal volcano of anal pain and knowing Kotaku and their shameless thirst for outrage and buzz, they must be trying to milk the cow for all the clickbait that it’s worth.
$$$$$$$$$$$
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i don’t care
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