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You’ll seriously pick this over OLED?
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I pick CRT
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This unironically. Won’t replace it until miniLED is standard on everything and strobing works at 60Hz.
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>only 60hz
oh no no no no no crtbros-
huh?
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>only 90hz
OH NO NO NO NO NO CRTBROS-
>what is multisyncing
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>had to lower resolution to get more hz
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that’s what multisync is you faggots. i only go down to 480p for competitive shooters which i hardly play anymore anyways.
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>60hz
CRTBROS WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO US-
i can set any resolution and refresh rate i want as long as it’s within the capabilities of the monitor. you’d realize how useful this is if you weren’t a retard, in 60hz only games i get bonus resolution
around 15 years from now
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>1800×1350
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that’s 17% more pixels than 1080p
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Who the hell cares about 1080p, it isn’t 2010 anymore grampa
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i’ve gamed in 4k before and it didn’t impress me. just a waste of resources and you still need aa.
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Not surprising the CRT autist doesn’t know about the secret resolution between 4k and 1080p
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Shh, dont tell him!
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of course i do. that’s even less of a difference than 4k.
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now compare it to whatever absurd resolution you need to use to achieve a modern refresh rate
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1800×1350? it’s more i guess but i don’t give a shit.
you only care about big numbers like most lcdfags do. all this res and refresh and you still have to deal with uniformity issues, shitty dynamic range, shitty viewing angles and motion blur. -
>uniformity issues
dont know what that is and dont care
>shitty dynamic range
meme
>shitty viewing angles
its a fucking monitor nigga you view it head on
>motion blur
I simply turn it offheres the skinny of it jack, i play on 1440p144hz and you play on your ancient rock at 480p60hz, seethe and cope
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Viewing angle has always made me laugh
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works for me, tube market’s already fucked, don’t need you as competition. glad i got this one when i did.
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>>motion blur
>I simply turn it off
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most games nowadays have an option to turn off motion blur grandpa
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can’t tell if actually retarded or just pretending. crts have no blur but lcd does up to 1000hz
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>you only care about big numbers
You mean the sole number that’s responsible for how smooth a game plays. But so what if games feel terrible, I’m sure they look great in 1080p with a nice layer of grease smeared over them right -
>You mean the sole number that’s responsible for how smooth a game plays.
wrong as fuck. you don’t even know about persistence blur yet, do you?
tubes have about the lowest lag you can get with a raster scanning display at a given refresh rate. no processing at all, though this isn’t that big a deal on lcds anymore, you still get considerably more lag due to slow response times. -
You’ve actually never used a high refresh rate monitor in a resolution higher than 480p have you. Sad!
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don’t need to, they all perform worse than a crt at a similar refresh rate, sometimes even worse than a tube at 60hz does. lcds aren’t even refresh rate compliant at the highest refresh rates you can buy them, pixel transitions too slow.
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>don’t need to
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almost no point in paying extra for an lcd since they all have the same qc issues. 120hz and even 240hz sample and hold is still going to have more blur than my tube at 60. god you’re naive.
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k let me know when you play a video game at more than 60fps. it will blow your mind
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i have been since 2014. it’s hardly even necessary when your display strobes properly lmao
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Seriously try a high refresh rate monitor sometime and see how retarded you’ve been all this time. You don’t even have to launch whatever 30 year old games you like, just moving the mouse around.
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Any CRT VGA monitor with enough video bandwidth can do high refresh rates.
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oh, high refresh isn’t bad. i used to use it all the time. it simply isn’t all that much better than a display which performs well at 60. in fact, i’d rather have good 60 than bad 120.
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CRT-diverse folk aren’t worth conversing with. They focus on the pros and bury their heads with the innumerable cons.
If you want the best for gaymin’ and movies, that’s the tradeoff.
They have the neo G9 but it’s super-ultrawide and $2,500.
Full of static elements: you have to either accept burn-in, or go through tons of effort avoiding it when you’re better off just having a second monitor for browsing.
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>640×480
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nigga has a DVI to RCA cable.
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BWAHAHAHAHAH
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ill stick to my nonmeme res and refresh rate
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lol
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>240hz
>1050ti
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90hz on a crt is way better then the equivalent on a modern display.
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Enjoy your eyecancer. Fucking modern CRT kids don’t have eye issues from a lifetime of staring into those fucking cancer boxes and don’t know any better.
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>90Hz
look mom I can play games faster now
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Isn’t microLED the one you’re supposed be looking out for?
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I’m gonna want something that runs at 240Hz before I consider backlight strobing. I value not getting eyestrain or headaches from looking at a CRT at 30 or 60Hz all day.
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>until miniLED
I bet the manufacturers will fuck it up with some shit like PWM flicker.
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You’re old.
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>I pick HRT
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My shaders can do more than your CRT can
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all of them look worse than CRT
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Your shaders can’t replicate a CRT’s perfect motion clarity.
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BFI can though
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Say that to fucking black frame insertion.
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Fisher-Price toy clock = SNES Aladdin
Rolex = SEGA Aladdin-
God, imagine how fucking insane the online console wars would be if publishers still asked two different developers to make the same game for different platforms.
And no, those shitty Wii or GBA/DS versions of multiplats don’t count. I’m talking the main two like SNES/Genesis, or D.O.S/AppleII back in the day.
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>Use shaders on CRT monitor
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Yeah but can your shitty shaders do this, zoomzoom?
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Same. CRT in my room for 240p/480i content. Plasma in the living room for HD.
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This. I just swaped out my 4 monitor set up for a single CRT display. Ideally, I’d have a second but there are fuck all available in New Zealand and my 1080p monitors and ultra wide don’t fit my desk’s aesthetic anymore. It’s honestly perfect, except for console games which I used to connect to one of my secondary monitors (PS4/5 doesn’t support 4:3) so I just play that on the television now. If I want to watch TV while playing games on my PC I just bring my laptop over (and use the AUX to MIC trick if I want to use headphones). It’s slightly less convenient having only one screen but the extra desk space makes all the difference and while I’m working I can actually be productive now.
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Don’t CRTs made text in hd games look bad?
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they’re not super good at text in general but it’s readable
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CRTs make everything in HD games look bad
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Up to 360 looks good and some CRTs have higher resolution capabilities than 1080p so no
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>Up to 360 looks good
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Yes, 360 is also beneficial as slowdown is reduced on higher resolutions
It also outputs an analog signal, it is especially good for streaming and watching DVD’s on a crt-
>Up to 360 looks good
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Keep it up
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keep coping
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>keep coping
With what?
360 games not looking like washed out shit with slowdown?
It didn’t even have HDMI when it was released
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That image looks quite simillar but I can’t quite recall it.
What is that game?-
Kameo
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CRT’s aint for graffix they’re for response times
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hd games dont make text big enough to account the crt mask
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only tv sets
CRT monitors are fine as they got above 480i
although 480i RGB is perfectly legible, as is 240p if the font is big
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>haven’t used a CRT in over a decade
>pull an old IBM monitor out of the basement
>try the BlurBuster test
>mfw
Holy shit, I grew up with CRTs and am only now realizing this, why can’t LCDs have this level of clarity?-
thats the power of light
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Turning on the machine for the first time was amazing. Like going back in time,and find out thing were even better than you remembered.
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If Razer or one of the gaming brands just straight up made a gaming CRT they’d fucking own the market.
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>if non vacuum tube makers made CRTs
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Yeah, fuck it, spend a shitton on R&D and production and make a fucking 2024 Gaming CRT.
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That’s not how it works, you think Razer makes the panels they use now?
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BenQ makes monitors that have Dyac+ technology which allows them to do backlight strobbing similair to CRTs but at 240hz.
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I busted out my old CRT and it’s really not that good for web browsing, I didn’t play much vidya with it.
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fpbp
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For me, it’s CBT
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Enjoy your eye cancer
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>burning your eyes out with scanlines for a 480i image when you can get filters to do the same thing on an HD monitor while also not compromising HD images
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>65" lcd hdr400 4k cost 300usd
>equivalent oled would be 10x that but 120hz
Id rather just get a bigger qled for the same moneyDangerously unbased
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>cuck retard tube
Of course.
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nope. Got a CX last year and never looking back.
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You will look back in 2 years.
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This but C9.
But…my Panasonic Plasma had better colors.
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oled more like o shit the hud elements of every game i play are burned into my screen
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You can’t notice it with actual images
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yes you can you blind faggot
20 years of lcds and this shit still isn’t fucking fixed-
>20 years of lcds and this shit still isn’t fucking fixed
it wasnt a problem on old lcds. before, they would use actual ccfl back lighting.
it was when they switched to LED edge lighting on most lcds to save money (because thin lcds became a feature) that uneven light distribution and bleeding happened.
now, if you want a good lcd with true back lighting, you will need to pay $1000 minimum-
yes you’re exactly right. i’d be willing to buy new ccfl panels if they were a cheap option with good uniformity but that’s not kosher because they use more power.
this isn’t even something specifically caused by edge lit lighting. it’s caused by edge lit lighting and shit quality control on top of that.-
I wish you could still buy CCFLs, I fucking loved my 2007-era Dell monitors
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i wish we made direct lit panels for consumers or just had some decent fucking qc, but that would cost a little bit extra and retards expect to get displays for $300. monitors with two dead pixels are considered fit to be sold. fuck this shit.
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lol I remember getting calls about dead pixels back in the day, we had specific requirements about how many could be in a given square space. Got fun to try and lead people on to just fucking lie to get replacements. "I’m sorry sir/ma’am we can only replace your screen if you have X dead pixels in Y space so DO YOU HAVE X DEAD PIXELS IN Y SPACE" a lot never got it, but sometimes you’d get one who’d pause and you could practically hear the wheels turning as they said "Oh, yes… yes I do" "How unfortunate let’s get a replacement sent out right away"
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>real lcds have a trunk
LCD chads got real backligting.-
remember that this thing only had 400:1 contrast and cost thousands of dollars. it also maxed out at around 41hz and you needed multiple cables to drive it at full resolution/refresh rate. fuck, were lcds even active matrix in 2001?
it was a one trick pony.-
yes, but we’re talking about backlighting. this was a monitor from over 20 years ago using ccfls and lit almost perfectly, as most lcds did back then.
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ccfls in general didn’t have uniformity issues. at least not like modern edge lit.
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yeah the problem is the light diffuser is a thin sheet of plastic that the LED is supposed to shine through from the edges. of course they can never aligned perfectly because all the parts that need to line up are cheap mass molded plastics.
unfortunately, most people dont realize how bad the tech is and will buy it anyways, so monitor manufacturers will keep tossing it out there.
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Yeah if you’re staring at the sun all day what the fuck
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>OLED
OH NONONONO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWrFEU_605g-
Let me just swing on over to the OLED monitor store and pick u- OH FUCKING WAIT THERE AREN’T ANY. I either buy a 48" TV or eat shit and spend $4,000 on a fucking 60Hz.
LG release your goddamn 42" and save us from this evil. Better yet, cut your retarded 8k display into 4 pieces and sell 38" monitors for any price to buttfuck the competition.
You’ll seriously pick this over LCD?
OLEDs are strictly for gaymin’ and movies; if you use it for desktop use you get what you deserve.
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>OLEDs are strictly for gaymin’ and movies; if you use it for desktop use you get what you deserve.
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>>LG release your goddamn 42" and save us from this evil. Better yet, cut your retarded 8k display into 4 pieces and sell 38" monitors for any price to buttfuck the competition.
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What’s wrong with OLED for desktop use specifically?
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Nothing, modern OLEDs have virtually eliminated burn in, unless you’re watching CNN 24hrs a day. rtings could only produce burn in with months of static images on current year OLEDs, it’s basically a sour grapes meme now
‘I would buy OLEDs if it weren’t for burn in’ like shut the fuck up already
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no they have not. Even that meme man linus made a video walking back his endorsement of 48inch oleds for monitors because he burned the windows into the screen after 4 months.
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Here’s the burn in after 9000 hours, 20hrs a day, burn in is minimal to non-existent https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
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>100+ week test
>you already have Fifa and news networks burning in before 10 weeks
Obviously it depends on your usage, but no amount of pixel shift or pixel refresher is gunna help you if you’re playing a single game for a prolonged period that has consistent UI on screen. These screens are made for movie watching first, and require babying otherwise.-
Pixel shift is a complete meme.
>Move the image by a few pixels
>It will totally mitiage the burn it, trust us bros!
How the fuck does that change anything for the pixel that is right in the middle of a static element? How the fuck is shifting the offstet by 3 pixels changing anything for that pixel right in the middle, it will be exactly the same color as that pixel 3 ticks away.
Complete fucking meme. The only solution is to completely change the entire image.-
The pixels slowly shift over time and move all around the display. Modern OLEDs don’t get burn-in even in the worst conditions
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All it really does is make the burn in a little less noticeable. Instead of burning in a straight line, it half burns in a blurred 3 pixel line.
Anyone who has owned an OLED screen for more than a year or two can be completely destroyed just by running a bunch of primary colors to show the obvious degradation in high use areas. Sure, you might not get visible hearts burned in, but you’ll have a weird patch of crap in the corners where UI elements are.
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> Anyone who has owned an OLED screen for more than a year or two can be completely destroyed just by running a bunch of primary colors to show the obvious degradation in high use areas
10000 hours here
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Go on then, post a photo of it on magenta.
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oled tvs are spyware
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Unplug it from the network then, every smart TV has some advertising-related network activity nowadays
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nah, i’d have to be able to physically disable the networking in them. fuckers search for open wifi networks and in the future they’ll probably even come with data connections, meaning the only way to keep them offline is to not fucking plug it in.
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You can literally turn off the wifi
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oled is still oled
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you’ll be burning in UI in no time depending on your game. A sony movie game can be fine while someone playing Fifa will be seeing the scoreboard make a permanent appearance.
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>LG release your goddamn 42" and save us from this evil
Basically just waiting for the this, the LG CX1 42" so I can bin my LCD monitors permanently -
>LG release your goddamn 42"
Can’t wait to upgrade from my dogshit Asus IPS. Should get shown off in January at CES. I just wish it came out before Elden Ring, but oh well -
>OLEDs are strictly for gaymin’ and movies;
i dont play games
i actually hate gaming and i hate sony nintendo and nvidia and formost Ganker-
lmao AMDpoorfag
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ok schizo cuck
consooooooooooooooom more-
>NOOOOO STOP BUYING THINGS AHHHHH
no, I don’t think I will
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>Linus racemixing tips
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lmfao I thought the right fucking idolized the thought of asian wives? take your meds
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You’ll seriously pick this over LCD?
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Anyone have that picture of the Craigslist ad where a gay porn is burned into the screen
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I want to see this
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It was LCD, though.
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This Orange…Sovl
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>Playing that much Batlleborn
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My FALD VA panel TV doesn’t have this problem
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When the FUCK is microLED going to become popular?
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A long time anon. The yields are really low right now, and shrinking them down is proving to be a pretty difficult task.
I fucking hate how dogshit LCD tech has been, and how we’ve been stuck with it for so long. I think I’m just going to bite the bullet and get an LG OLED TV for my next display, and just keep an LCD display for basic desktop browsing so I don’t get fucked by static elements too much. Maybe a half decent microLED screen will surface by the time I see noticeable burn in.-
VA would also be a good choice for your computing LCD screen
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Yeah I was thinking the same, may just get a Samsung Odyssey or something for that.
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Newer models don’t have that issue, or it’s very unnoticeable.
But the contrast on IPS will always be a caveat, which comes with the territory.
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>But the contrast on IPS will always be a caveat, which comes with the territory.
Samsung needs to hurry up and solve the bad viewing angles problems on VA panels. They already solved the problem that made them so slo, now they need to tackle viewing angles.
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got both
each for different purposes
also please learn how to calibrate devices for different situations -
I play in a well lit room
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>muh blacks
don’t care about your nitpicky first world luxury problems.
>boohoo muh blacks, MUH BLAAACKKKS
privileged white male who takes everything for granted. -
mines fine, much more pocketed in the corners and they’re dark grey, i actually forgot they exist unless im playing a horror game, even then though it’s so minor i dont give a fuck
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Soon. At a vert expensive price.
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Until it becomes standard with new, cheap mass manufacturing processes.
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>ok/good/better/best
try worthless/terrible/bad/good
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>c920
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Flatscreens were a mistake.
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>pretending to play the demo
I don’t get it.-
the joke is that they can’t play the game because lightguns do not properly work with flatscreens
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That isn’t the attract mode. Two seconds of research could’ve told you this.
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>buy an OLED screen
>watch neon genesis evangelion
>that scene of asuka and rei in the elevator
>screen forever damaged
Wtf-
Feels more like it would just get stuck on EVA01 holding Kaworu
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Yes, oled shill. At least i dont have burn in after 1-2 years
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Maybe you should have paid more than $30 for a monitor
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You could pay $3000 for an LCD and it would still look like that. It’s a problem that plagues the entire industry sadly.
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Do the bare minimum research and you can get an LCD without a fucked backlight
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This effect is only because of side lighting/shadows. Mine looked somewhat similar when I stood in front of it and took a picture with a dim lamp about 10 feet away. But when I turn all the lights off and stood offset and took a picture, it was basically completely uniform.
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>monitors
lol, any TV is better
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anon…
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Cameras accentuate light bleed in a way your eyes can’t quite replicate.
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I got an LG CX due to all the hype but a year later I can’t get over how fucking dim it is in game mode and HGIG. I like it with Dynamic tone mapping but everyone and their mother keeps telling me how wrong I am and HGIG is clearly the best
Next tv with either me mini LED or if OLEDs can get 1000 nits in game mode I will get that. Cant deal with the goddamn dimness like im playing with sunglasses on
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The highest end VA panels have 7000:1 contrast, wider gamuts than OLED, and quite decent viewing angles. With sufficiently good miniLED they will be strictly better than OLEDs for watching movies at least.
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Get your eyes checked because my C1 is literally at 50 brightness for sdr content and games and I find it too bright at times.
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It’s super bright running games in HDR mode, you must have fucked up the configuration or something
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No, just HGIG dims the screen too much .are you using HGIG?
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Anything is better than OLED. Not only do they have the worst flaws of plasma (burn in) they also have the worst flaws of LCD (motion blur).
What an absolutely colossal joke, and you cunts pay premium for it.-
OLEDs don’t have motion blur. What the fuck are you on about. It has the best pixel response time. There is literally no ghosting.
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oleds are still sample and hold dummy
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What the fuck are you on about. I can literally test my OLED right now and have zero ghosting or motion blur.
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you need to flicker the image to get rid of motion blur. if you display a 60hz frame for the full 16ms it will be blurred and there’s no way around this no matter how good your response time is.
if you can’t notice it then you either don’t know what to look for, or your oled is interpolating 60hz to 240hz.-
It’s as close to zero motion blur possible outside of CRTs. VR headsets that used OLED panels strobe the panel to defeat motion blur entirely, but it’s virtually unnoticeable on a display, so no need for strobing
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>no need for strobing
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It’s a 1ms response time, you literally cannot see it in motion unless you’re taking a still frame from a camera
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response time isn’t the limiting factor, you can have 0.0000000001ms response time but sample and hold will still blur the image at low refresh rates.
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>sample and hold will still blur the image at low refresh rates
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both 60 and 120 count as low. you need about 500hz sample and hold to match persistence of slow-phosphor tubes, 2000hz for fast ones.
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ok dude, that must be why gaming tournaments are still using CRTs, because sample and hold delay is such a big deal, oh wait
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funny you mention that actually because quite a few gaming monitors support strobing now, like how crts work.
recently one came out (xg2431) which even supports strobing at 60hz and qft to eliminate crosstalk and input lag problems – meaning it’s the first true challenger to crt motion clarity. i’m glad to see that lcds are finally improving. -
esportsfags are barely functional. Literally sub 85 IQ retards.
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Those are low refresh rates. You will still notice blur.
Black frame insertion or backlight strobing is the only solution for perfect motion clarity until you get to 1000Hz or so.
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Persistence is different from response time and can only be removed by strobing or high refresh rate
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CRTfags gonna fag
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CRT autists are absolutely insufferable
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but dude the image looks so clean if you run it at 60hz and squint your eyes really hard
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OLEDs still use sample-and-hold, which is absolute cancer and turns everything into a smeary mess.
Only a proper strobed display can achieve perfect motion clarity like a CRT.
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anon please stop being aggressively poor
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Still not buying your $350 fisher price tablet with mobile hardware from 2013, nintenturd.
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the thing that gets me is the total ubiquity of heavy grain filters on modern monitors, outside of some bottom of the barrel 1080/60 dell model and apple’s eco system there are literally no gloss monitors, even semi-gloss basically doesn’t exist. Like they could not conceive of a single monitor that’s more geared towards the use of a high end television display, not a single fucking monitor with that crossover?
I have a gloss 1080p ips acer that was a meme budget model 8 years ago and I’m ready to get a new one but I know I’ll put them side by side and the new one’s going to look drab and washed out in comparison, what’s the point? -
>game goes into a dark area
>backlight bleed blinds me
>don’t give a shit
>too busy biotic charging and spamming nova to survive
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>only comes in 40+inch format at 2000$+, will have noticable burn in within 2 years
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You can pick one up for way cheaper around Cyber Monday, cheaper than whatever spyware LCD bullshit Samsung is flogging
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Alright ye
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>8bit
kinda cringe
>lcd
kinda gray
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Damn, however will I enjoy my stare at a black screen simulators???
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what monitor do I get if I do color-sensitive work?
Something that doesn’t have this shit
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If you also like looking at high res drawings or hentai, get an lg oled tv. They can show pngs in 5760 x 5760 resolution and jpgs in 15360 x 8640.
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i have a ips led screen from 10 years ago and it doesnt have this. looks like you have a shitty monitor anon. like i have 1mm of backlight bleed around the border that i literally never notice unless i do a backlight bleed test and yeh the blacks aren’t true black but i have literally never given a shit about that. also most movies have dogshit compression and have banding in dark areas or just general artifacting which means even on oled you probably won’t see pure blacks unless you are watching like 4k blu rays or something.
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>i have a ips led screen from 10 years ago and it doesnt have this
It does
But only when you take a photo of it-
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yes, take a photo of it on a black screen, you’ll see
if it doesn’t have them then it isn’t IPS-
ok i took a photo with all the other lights in my room turned off. and you can see a tiny very faint bleed on the bottom. and you can only see it with the camera. so who gives a shit like i care what my eyes see no what a camera sees in some very specific scenario.
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Mate, read my first response again
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Zoomer thread
Nobody gives a shit about the Keyboard, Mouse, or monitor you use faggots just game
I still use my grandmother’s 10+ year old Insignia TV for gaming and it works like a fucking charm suck my dick faggots -
nah rather buy a decent sony tv when vrr is fixed
crazy how people are willing to pay double the price for such a minimal difference because MUH OLED
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>buy lg oled cx
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>switch games feels awful to play compared to non-oled
>always thinking about burn-ins even if the risk is low it sucks how you still think about it especially when you have your desktop on
glad I could return it after 2 weeks-
>t. Can’t calibrate displays
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yes it’s really difficult copying settings
how did I not think of that
you oledfags are retarded as fuck and your panel is overrated as fuck.-
It’s funny because I don’t get crushed blacks on mine lol
Sucks to be you
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VA is better than OLED
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I’m happy with my oldass Sony X900e. Full LED array VA, served as my computer monitor 10-12h a day for 4 years, I don’t have to babysit it, blacks are surprisingly good, upscale is excellent. Sucks that Snoy dropped the ball on their new offerings with their HDMI 2.1 issues, but I don’t need to change just yet. Though I really want jump into that sweet freesync and 4K 120hz world at some point.
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>OLED
>double/triple the price
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh8pJ9dTaYo
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My IPS looks nothing like this
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fullscreen a black background and see for yourself, IPS glow in universal for all IPS monitors
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Cameras pick it up, not the naked eye,
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you need to check your eyes my dude
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you took this picture with a camera tho. also it depends on the monitor and also you get rng when buying monitor. so yeh maybe that ips monitor has bad backlight bleed on camera but another ips monitor has backlight bleed that is very hard to notice even with a camera.
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you don’t see it because you don’t have anything to compare it to, I understand
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>Show people how shitty their LED monitors are with all his eye gouging clouding
>Still won’t sell it to me for cheap when I tell them to get an OLED instead
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Honestly I felt a bit underwhelmed I guess seeing my first oled in person, in general all the display tv’s with perfect settings in the store setting look great but then you get home and never quite nail it. I still prefer my 55” KS8000 to my brothers LG oled (think it was a b6) but I also almost always keep it on vivid lol so maybe it’s just my eyes that suck.
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Display OLEDs are configured in such a way that they’d burn in within a year of even normal use, much less gaming use. Yeah it’d look good but you’re buying a subscription not a durable good.
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If you buy an OLED before MicroLEDs (or 4 digit+ count MiniLEDs) are widely available, especially now, you are an idiot.
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>microled
A meme that won’t be affordable til 2032-
And any LCD you buy today will last until then. An OLED might last a quarter of that time.
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I’ll wait for microLED. Until then, I’ll stick with LCD.
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microled won’t be $1000 in the consumer market for at least another 5 – 10 years
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10-15
In 5 years it’ll be about 20000-50000 depending on how these part shortages go
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>have gaymen laptop
>can only really handle 1080p
>has built in 1080p/144hz screen
>but fed up with only 15 inch screenWhat do? Do I really buy yet another 1080p monitor? I was thinking maybe a 4k/60 monitor. At least I can integer scale in modern games, but use 4k in older/less demanding games. But then I’m giving up 144hz, but does it really matter? I don’t play MP. Is it nice, though,
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I have both. LG 34GN850 and a CX. Also got pretty lucky with the ips panel and have no noticeable backlight bleeding at all.
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I took the VA pill and never looked back
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OLED is the shit. I wouldn’t use it as a general monitor, but for movies and occasional games it’s on another level.
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you can tell the difference between someone passionate about display quality and a consumer by if they claim to have a good display
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LCDs last a long time in my experience. I can wait for something better to come along. microLED from the sound of it.
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I want.
1440p
144hz
Gsync
2000nit brightness
unlimited local dimming zones
no ghosting
no bleed
no burn inis it too much to ask
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Here you go m8, that’ll be 5k
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>no gysnc
>no 2000nit brightness
cringe no reply to me again-
>gsync
Anon, it’s a CRT, it doesn’t need gsync
>2000 nit
It’s fucking X Rays, it is plenty bright trust me-
So screen tearing isn´t an issue on crt? Well that´s bullshit.
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OLED panels that aren’t for (((prosumers))) fucking WHEN
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>he lost to rng
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>playing in the dark
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you’ll seriously pick this over LED?
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Well I don’t leave it on national geographic so day so
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>well *my* use case will make it yellow and burned in in a different way and time so
room temp IQ confirmed
enjoy your sepia filtered TV bros-
That’s why you don’t get the discounted floor model you impoverished retard
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"lol u poor" is not an argument
the most expensive OLEDtv will still get yellowing and burn-in, it can only be delayed
OLED panels are the definition of planned obsolescence and anyone stupid enough to defend them is nothing but a good goy-
eh. LCD looks dogshit comparatively, so I’d rather roll the dice.
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QLED surpasses OLED in every way and has none of its issues
you bots of course will never mention it exists-
>QLED surpasses OLED in every way
Samsung are only releasing QLED LCD displays for one more year before fully swapping over to QLED OLED displays. Cope.-
No they’re not. They’re still going to be selling LCDs.
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their flagship QLED LCD televisions are all transitioning to QLED OLED in 2023. They will still be selling non-QLED LCD televisions, but those panels aren’t produced in-house.
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lol
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>blooming
>forced tone mapping that can’t be disabled, even when HGiG is enabled
>no matter how good its contrast ratio is for an LCD, it can’t come remotely close to the literal infinite contrast ratio provided by OLED
QLED are decent and if I were to get an LCD TV, it would definitely be a Samsung, but lmao no.
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Yeah, I bought a C1 48" to use as my monitor, and honestly can’t go back to normal monitors. Even if I did get burn in it’s worth since I usually buy an new monitor every 2-3 years anyways. Also for the price of mini LED you could buy 3 OLED displays.
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you use it as your primary monitor? Ballsy. I’m going to get the 42" next year, but it will be my content display for gaming and movies, and I’ll keep one of my two current monitors for web browsing etc.
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Yes, I just resize the windows and use a black background. Since there’s no backlight it’s like having multiple monitors.
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Where does everyone get such shitty OLEDs
Am I really that lucky to have 10000 hours and no burn in or dulled colours?
If so, I recommend everyone get Panasonic-
its not the tv thats the problem
thats from RTings burn in test TV that played literally nothing but the news for like a year straight
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Imagine being so blind that you can’t even see all the fucked up areas of your screen. Again, just take a picture of it on magenta, bro.
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I went through grey magenta yellow and cyan, fucking nothing showed up
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My 10yo 42′ LG lcd still holds up and I repaired it once. I’m buying an OLED when my TV truly dies.
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Got an LG C1 for <€1k and it’s been fantastic so far. image quality is way better than all the LCDs I had in the past
my only complaint is that while it auto-detects vidya and automatically switches to low-latency mode it does the same for the sound output (”””game optimizer audio”””), which fucking sucks ass. have to switch back to normal audio output every single time
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i have babied my lg C9 for almost 2 years no sign whatsoever of burn in
HOWEVER i do have decent clusters of dead pixels in every corner not sure if they are actually fully dead though because the pixel refresh has brought back a few of them
my hope is that it lasts me until micro led or whatever becomes viable-
it’s a shame LG only offer their 5 year ""no questions asked"" panel replacement on the G series. I really hope the 42" has a G series version for that very reason, but I highly doubt it since they’re probably aware how many people want to use it as a monitor.
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yeah im still on the fence about if they are truly dead or just stuck since a few came back
its probably because i use a lot of 4:3 content so the pixels are used to being off in the corners? i dunno its not noticeable from viewing range so i dont stress itI’ll wait for microLED. Until then, I’ll stick with LCD.
in your pictures testing the tv that was used for gaming had zero evidence of burn in
todays oleds do not burn in from regular use easilyAnd any LCD you buy today will last until then. An OLED might last a quarter of that time.
my TV before my C9 was a KS8000 from samsung
it lasted exactly 3 years RIGHT after the warranty cutoff point it stopped working right
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>bought this 4k hdr oled tv and all i play on it is ps1/2
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>buy new IPS monitor
>set it up next to my TN
>colours are AWFUL
>everything has a yellow tint to it
>pirate the hardware unboxed colour profile
>tweak for hours with the OSD settings
>white still looks yellow compared to my TN
returned it, it was honestly so bad.-
>choosing tn over ips for colours
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I know, I just couldn’t get over how much worse the IPS looked, even though it has ‘better’ colours.
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wtf kind of potato ips monitor did you get that whites look worse than on a tn monitor?
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BenQ EX2510. My old TN is a BenQ XL2411z
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either: had that benq hdri shit on, windows hdr on or got a faulty unit
tn colors are nowhere near as good as ips and no amount of Ganker or Ganker shitposting will make it true-
nolpe, had no hdr shit on and windows was fine. Googling the problem showed that a lot of people had the same issue with terrible yellow whites.
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years from now that LCD will still work while your OLED melanoidtech will have burn-in and degrading organic components.
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>Samsung runs anti-OLED campaigns for years as a means of advertising their LCD screens (((QLED)))
>they have given up and are releasing OLED televisions next year
OLED chads, we can’t stop winning-
The infuriating thing about it though is that by being faggots and abandoning OLEDs and spreading propaganda, they slowed down adoption and research. We probably could have had far better, far cheaper OLED screens by now.
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I’m interested in seeing their product all the same, as it combines their (((QLED))) tech with OLED
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Samsung’s philosophy of forcing tone mapping even when HGiG is enabled is fucking retarded, though.
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OLED isn’t worth it for gaming just get a good value VA LED with high brightness. I have an OLED and it’s way too dark even at max brightness unless you literally live in a cave and burn in risk is real especially if you like long gaming sessions. I was playing through GTA 4 and the little arrow in the map got burnt into the TV after just like 6 hours of play. It did to away eventually but this was literally months after the TV was bought so wear and tear was at a minimum yet it still managed to burn in and would have been permanent if the TV was a year or two older as the organic elements start degrading. I thought fuck that and just bought a regular LCD TV 4k 120hz and brightness and black levels have been 90% as good as OLED without these risks.
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Then it’s not calibrated correctly
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Calibration has nothing to do with it. OLEDs are known to be dark TVs with full screen brightness being around 150 nits. They’re darker than any gaming monitor you can buy for within $500.
FALD is a proven technology and works brilliantly well if you’re sitting in front of the TV. The only time you see glow is if you’re off axis or if you have a really bright loading icon in the corner of a pitch black screen. Other than that you will literally never be able to tell the difference between OLED and a decent FALD LCD. And you get the benefits of no burn in and actual good full screen brightness because you’re not limited by OLEDs retarded Automatic Brightness Limiter (ABL) tech.
>he doesn’t play video games in a dark room with the curtains down
ngmi tbh
I do sometimes but not everyone plays all night. Just general TV watching in the day time exposes OLEDs lack of brightness and most reviewers will mention this. It’s one of many shortcomings of OLED tech and why micro LED is desperately needed.
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>micro LED is desperately needed
yeah, but that’s a decade or so away from seeing actual widespread adoption in the consumer market and will still be more expensive at that point than OLEDs currently are, so I’d rather make do with the best of what’s currently available, and for me that’s OLED, because I have thick blackout blinds and curtains and never watch general television in a lit room, so its most noticeable shortcoming is meaningless to me -
>caring about fucking brightness of all things when it comes to gaming tvs/monitors
first thing I did when I got my LG C1 was turn the fucking default brightness down-
yeah ive never understood maxing the backlight
i usually play in the dark and white screens would make my eyes bleed at max
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The impact of HDR is completely reliant on brightness levels which is why LG developed the OLED evo panel which increases brightness by 20%, but even then it still has the same limitations of regular OLED with poor full screen brightness despite being double the price. There’s little to no reason to buy OLED now especially when tech like miniLED with hundreds of dimming zones exists.
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miniLED has awful ghosting and blooming comparatively
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Not from what I’ve seen. Samsung miniLED TVs are really good. Maybe LG and Hisense have poor TVs.
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OLED has far superior picture quality and the expense of a dimmer overall image. MiniLED has a lesser image quality, but a far brighter overall image. It all comes down to what you’re after, but to say there’s no reason for one or the other to exist when compared to each other and different use cases is retarded.
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It doesn’t though. LGs motion algorithm is 3rd best in the industry right now for example. I can see it with my own eyes on my OLED. The motion handling isn’t the best when watching movies or sports. Image quality is basically neck and next between e.g. LG G1 and Samsung Qn90a.
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Forgot to mention Samsungs motion algorithms are the best right now according to HDTV Test.
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I’ve also seen the comparison video Vincent did, and despite this being correct, he also points out the noticeable blooming (of which OLED is immune) that is inherent with any LCD display, even mini LED
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and despite that, Samsung are moving into the OLED market next year. Really makes you think.
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Samsung has been making OLED phone displays for years. They make all the apple Amoled displays. My Samsung galaxy has burn in where the keyboard is and my phone is only 2 years old.
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>with full screen brightness being around 150 nits
that’s true, but outside of test patterns, and not so common examples, e.g. the morpheus scene in the matrix, or fades to white during scene cuts in movies, full screen brightness hardly ever actually happens in regular use case scenarios, especially when it comes to video games. But if you were to play in a room with unavoidable natural light, or are just someone who doesn’t want to have the blinds down whenever they’re using their screen, then yeah, OLED probably isn’t the way to go.
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>he doesn’t play video games in a dark room with the curtains down
ngmi tbh
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I still use a cheap, kinda shitty 1080p acer monitor I bought at Wal-Mart 10 years ago.
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After getting a Samsung G7 I’m just not interested in IPS anymore. The G7 has flaws but is much better than any IPS out there.
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I pick TN because is objectively the fastest with no ghosting, highest refresh rates and no backlight bleed.
Colour accuracy is irrelevant for gaming.-
my Dell S2716DG has the worst backlight bleed I’ve ever seen on a monitor. Are you confusing backlight bleed with IPS glow? Because TNs are most certainly not immune to the former
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works on my machine
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I didn’t say it didn’t, but you’re chatting bullshit if you think that’s the case across the board.
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https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gk650f-b
It just works
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If I had a time machine, I’d stock up on Pioneer 1080p plasma monitors when they were blowing them out on clearance. Late-model plasmas were excellent.
I have an LG OLED for movies and an LG IPS for a monitor. Stop being poor maybe?-
Plasmas get burn in easier than oleds do though
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yeah, but he’s stocking up on them, so he can just set up a new one every couple of years
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OLED is such a retarded meme screen.
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lol poor
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One viewing of this on a 4K OLED and you’ll definitely see it’s not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX2bu-_Vw4-
I played this on my IPS and it looks fine. Didn’t even bother turning on HDR. None of these demos are anything to write home about.
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Photos really accentuate this shit, it’s barely noticable irl
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>You’ll seriously pick this over OLED?
No, I use displays with quality lcd panels
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