>convergent evolution
>it's the same type as the original
so what it the point then?
just make it a regional variant and call it a day
>convergent evolution. >it's the same type as the original
>convergent evolution
>it's the same type as the original
so what it the point then?
just make it a regional variant and call it a day
It's TPCi actively fucking with autistic sticklers like yourself
I unironically think this is a genuine motivation behind decisions sometimes.
I’m pretty certain at this point the only reason they didn’t make it a regional form is because they don’t want to acknowledge Kitakami is its own region
this is actually a great point that I never thought about
They already did that by putting Johtonian Wooper in Kitakami
What anon probably meant is this way they don't have to name the region kitakami is in, while getting away with having is be a single place and not a whole region. It's like if the isle of armour was instead called the armoria region but it's really small and doesn't have it's own starter pokemon, towns, has paldean pokemon, etc
That's probably correct given that the other convergents are completely different living creatures whereas the these guys are still technically tea.
I expected/hoped for basically this line as a regional variant in Hisui. I don't get a lot of decisions they've made.
I don’t see why not. There’s only two Paldean forms so it’s not like two Kitakamian forms is gonna kill people
Then didn't want to make Kitakamian forms.
>regional forms don't drastically change the bodyshape of the pokémon getting redesigned
>japanese tea sets look vastly different to english antique tea sets
But you're a retarded fuck, so small wonder you missed both these little details. Pity, it explained why it became a convergent instead of a regional in the first place
I think it's also worth noting that the evolution designs and names themselves have reversed.
It's irrelevant. They wanted to make a Japanese tea reference. Thus sinistea/polteageist weren't considered, due to them being western-themed. Fuck, rhey could have made convergents specifically as they'd wanted to add polchageist/sinischa and felt they had to add more lines to fully cement the reference.
>regional forms don't drastically change the bodyshape of the pokémon getting redesigned
?
I wish you nigglets wouldn't try and cherry-pick. One example out of 50+ doesn't support your argument.
And what is the difference between both tea lines, the are a shapeless blob with a swirl first, then a blob with a humanoid portion. It looks exactly the same in both lines except for the color, in fact it changes even less than those regional variants.
Unless you are arguing the fact one possesses tea on a pot then on a cup while the other goes from a cup to a pot is actually determinant for it to be a different species
>One example out of 50+ doesn't support your argument.
It literally does when that's how you define the differece between regional form and convergent species.
>"I was proved to be wrong and I'm still retarded"
You forgot Lilligant, which goes from bulb lower body with 4 feet, to 2 long legs and 2 feet
It's the same design but longer
forms don't drastically change the bodyshape of the pokémon getting redesigned
Galarian Meowth has a more different looking body shape than the thing in the OP does.
The only difference is G. Meowth has a beard/ruff. From behind, they're both the same scrawny cat, just reared in different regions.
The only difference with the thing in the OP is that it’s sitting in a different pot.
independent from potential lore reasons, convergent evolutions are lower effort from a developer POV because you aren't forced to include every other regional variant every time you include that pokemon in the roster of a game
ex. games that allow you to catch meowth now force the developers to include its alolan and galarian variants, but wiglett and diglett can be included/excluded completely independently of one another because they're considered separate evolutionary lines
>ex. games that allow you to catch meowth now force the developers to include its alolan and galarian variants
they can exclude regional variants anytime they decide to. GF never follows its own rules or patterns for long
They omitted regional variants in games with one version in them already.
Arceus is the only game and that can be chalked up to they didn't evolve that way yet
There is no such obligation, and they already dropped it in PLA.
Yup, just like how I got my non-hisuian zoroark and braviary in PLA right?
>Convergent sinistea
>Instead of a Ghost living inside the object it's the object itself the mon like those yokai living objects
That's actually very neat-
>Evolves into a green polteageist inside a Bowl
RUINED
basically they shot themselves in the foot and now have to shoehorn in convergent mons.
Let's be honest, Wigglett and Toedscool are not pokemon we really needed. They could have easily been regional variants.
Convergent evolutions aren't even accurate to the real definition anyways.
How are they not? Convergent Pokemon aren't related to the OG mon at all despite looking the same, just like IRL convergent evolution results in similar looking but unrelated species
Convergent evolution would be if they were the same type or filled similar niches. Toedscool's tentacles are legs that hold it's body up, not arms that dangle in the ocean.
>Convergent evolution would be if they were the same type or filled similar niches.
They literally do though. the mushrooms use their mycelium to wrap their prey up and incapacitate them by sucking out their nutrients, similar to how the jellyfish originals wrap their prey up and poison them to incapacitate them instead. Wiglett is a bit more dubious, but it's physical similarities are explained. The slender body and large nose are adapted to sniffing out predators from long distances and retreating as fast as possible, which makes sense when you realize the apex aquatic predators in Paldea are speedsters like Barraskewda and Veluza. In terms of a similar niche, it could just be doing for shorelines what Dugtrio does for above-ground dirt. Aerate the soil and provide nutrients by way of waste products.
Imdeed. Also Toadscruell is based on octopus/jellyfish aliens that are very popular in japanese media
You're both kinda wrong. Convergent evolution irl is a broad term that's applied to literally all kinds. Carcinization only applies to crustaceans, all of which are (relatively speaking) closely related. However, it also applies to Sharks and Dolphins or Hummingbirds and Hummingbird Hawk Moths, who's closest living relative was probably some misshapen blob that crawled out of the primordial ooze and happened to start developing complex structures.
>who's closest living relative
*closest common relative, whoops
Same reason for paradox mons other than the bikes. Dex filler. Too lazy to make more new mons so they just bring back old ones and say they're new pokemon. Shills will eat it up anyways.
NOTHING OFFICIALLY STATES THAT CONVERGENT MONS SOLELY HAVE DIFFERENT TYPINGS FROM THE ORIGINAL
>Original is haunted tea
>The new guy is some sort of banana-slug creature
There.
Convergent Pokémon have the same stats that's basically it
>convergent evolution of diglett: it's an eel instead of a mole! it looks very similar, but it lives by beaches and stretches itself to hunt for food!
>convergent evolution of tentacool: it's a mushroom instead of a jellyfish! it looks very similar, but instead of tentacles, it has small legs allowing it to run quickly.
>convergent evolution of polteageist: it's a... ghost in tea instead of a ghost in tea? it's a ghost haunting matcha tea instead of a ghost haunting black tea, i guess? but they're both ghosts? doing the same thing? and they look really similar?
how did they fuck up this bad in their third attempt at a convergent evolution? did they want to establish early on that convergent evolutions dont have to be a drastically different idea by making this one drastically similar to polteageist? not a single fan design of a convergent evolution did something like this.
Its same ghost just inhabiting different kind of tea. So it makes sense its a different pokemon, not a forme.
>it's the same ghost
>so it makes sense to be a different pokemon
so unless you say the pokemon is the teapot/tea itself, that makes no fucking sense at all.
Prime example: rotom is still a rotom, even if it inhabits a different device
easy money
Because they fucked themselves with the creation of regional form/evolutions.
Now the pokedex looks goes. 41-42-870
They probably just want the pokemon to be closer to each other in the pokedex.
Since swsh they reorder the dex and give new numbers accordingly, and there is no national dex to keep track of anymore.
No they didn't.
Mr mime's dex still goes
#439 #122 #866
Girafarigs dex goes
#203 #981
It doesn't matter what the number in the game says it is when their official numbers are fucked.