Crystal is better than HGSS. Why is everything so fricking SLOOOOOOW in the remake? Why all the stupid interruptions?

Crystal is better than HGSS. Why is everything so fricking SLOOOOOOW in the remake? Why all the stupid interruptions?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crystal is not particularly fast either, and it takes a lot longer to grind in Crystal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But at least there's not that many interruptions. I can just play the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and it takes a lot longer to grind in Crystal
      good thing you dont need to grind in crystal outside of dex completion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just don't catch and train pokemon bro

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crystal is also bad. HGSS just takes Gen2’s dogshit pacing and level curve and just combines it with Gen4’s shitty engine while adding useless fluff.
    All forms of Johto are terrible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all forms of the objective best game ever made as of 2024 are terrible
      sure thing, brown person

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go away, Joe. You have the worst taste known to man.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope Johturd, Clair doesn’t even use a Kingdra despite it being the only Dragon Weakto has.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no Ampharos in Crystal so I will pick HGSS over it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Crystal has the odd egg

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Crystal has hatching the wrong pokemon and then resetting and hatching the egg again
          Ampharos wins.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I got my shiny Pichu, I'm good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      more than half of these are optional text and the part about just hatching the egg doesn't even understand the plot of the game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOO I NEED MY PERVERTS TO SPECIFICALLY SAY THEY'RE BEING PERVERTS RATHER THAN IT JUST BEING IMPLIED
      He's still peeping in on a Gym full of teenage girls

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 2 is slower than gen 4. You don't notice because Johto is a short region and everything is underleveled compared to Sinnoh. Then you reach Red and feel the slow HP scrolling in full effect, but millenBlack folk called it "tension."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > You don't notice because Johto is a short region and everything is underleveled compared to Sinnoh
      Johto being “short” is a myth. Someone compared the maps for first 4 regions and the only reason Johto is “small” is because 2 huge routes before the Elite 4 are consider “Kanto” for some stupid reason despite being new content inly in the Johto games, and Sinnoh only ended up slighty bigger even with several event only areas being counted.
      >underleveld
      The only thing levels would affect is HP bar. Gen 4 has other issues like how it takes forever to save after doing anything or surfing speed being slow which is the actual source of the slowness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Gen 2 is slower than gen 4
      So this is the latest sinnohfetus cope…

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's actually true. the hp scrolling is slower and the pvp is rest and leftovers spam

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the hp scrolling
          Meanwhile literally everything about Gen 4 is slow, from movement to animations
          >pvp is…
          Smogon making a fanfic meta revolving around safe switches for 20 years has no bearing on the actual game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes gen 2 was the slow as frick gen until gen 4 released, this is common knowledge.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All this happens in the regular games too, you didn't notice it with your nostalgia goggles on. The HP scrolling is greatly exaggerated in OU. You could argue that Nintendo Cup 2000 is faster, but it wasn't played on GSC, nor is it a relevant format anymore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            everything in gen 2 is slow as frick too. the pc alone makes me never want to never touch johturd again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      millenials don't like johto it was boring af and killed pokémania

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't notice how slow it is until literally the last 180 seconds of the game you will ever realistically play
      Then it's not slow????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then gen 4 isn't slow either????

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Describe literally every aspect of the UI of gen 4 as slow
          >Try to do a turn around "gotcha" when someone calls out that you only think the very last bonus fight of the entire game is the only place where gen 2 feels somewhat slow
          Okay???????

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ??? why are all you johtoBlack folk illiterate
            that post said the entire game is slow and it's at its worst in red
            or are you pretending to be moronic like usual?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You don't notice because Johto is a short region and everything is underleveled compared to Sinnoh. Then you reach Red and feel the slow HP scrolling in full effect,
              If anyone is illiterate, it's you. Either you said the wrong shit, or you're interpreting this moronic post wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is correct though? lmao play the games johtoBlack person

                >at its worst in red
                That's where you're wrong. Level 100 Battle Tower is worse.

                i forget, do the l100 sets have rest too?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No not really, mostly just Leftovers. The Kingdra is giga ass though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao i forgot how many shitty hax items this gen introduced, fricking johto man

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this is correct though?
                It is correct. Johto is only slow at the very last 180 seconds of the game, like he said.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >at its worst in red
              That's where you're wrong. Level 100 Battle Tower is worse.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because some people lack the patience to play except on emulators with a fast forward button.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If its so good then where ampharos?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    speaking of crystal version, I recently picked it back up on VC on my ds. I've only ever finished silver version (a long time ago) and I had a question about pic related.
    Sunkern learns mega drain at 10. Sunflora learns razor leaf at 10. I know in modern games there is no issue but in gen 2, or crystal specifically, can I evolve Sunkern at level 10 and have it/Sunflora learn both moves simultaneously?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I haven’t tried it, but what you should be able have Sunkern Mega Drain, then
      Evolve it at the same level, it should learn Razor leaf right after it evolves since pokemon learn moves while evolving all the time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait... has that always been a thing? where I evolve something at lets say level 20 and its evolution learns the move its supposed to learn at level 20?
        I thought that was only newer gens

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait... has that always been a thing? where I evolve something at lets say level 20 and its evolution learns the move its supposed to learn at level 20?
        I thought that was only newer gens

        bump to see if this is true

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i can confirm that it does indeed work

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3rd Version adds a feature that was present in Gen 2
    >Needs a hacking tool to add a feature present in the same previous Gen and subsequent Gens as well
    >On a GBA which is supposed to be better than GBC
    >and vp still complains about Johto

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last game I tried to play was Sun and I gave up precisely because of these interruptions

    Too much Lillie as well

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crystal doesn't have pokeathalon and customizable safari zone which were the two best features of HGSS.
    Other than that it was a painful slog to play through HGSS with only the paint-dryingly boring gen 1 and 2 pokedex to play with, and a copypaste of kanto from gen 1 as a lazy selling point of more content that was inferior to just playing FireRed's version of kanto.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >customizable safari zone
      frick no, more overrated fluff from a garbage game. it’s easily the worst shitfari zone

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more overrated fluff from a garbage game
        It literally solves one of Johto's biggest issues (most of the johotomons are locked to the postgame) by letting you get them in it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dont give a shit about johto's shit pokedex it's unfixable, the safari zone was good because I customized it to be my own secret base.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really. HGSS tried to remedy GSC's horrendous teambuilding with the new safari zone and move-based evolutions, but the former is an absolute mess and slog to set up and use properly (on top of relying on RNG to get the right terrain for certain encounters) and the latter restricts everyone to one evolution since there's only one heart scale in Johto. Team building in Johto is still terrible.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >there's only one heart scale in Johto
              >HGSS
              wtf? I ended farming lots of Heart Scales in my recent playthrough. Did you perhaps miss Rock Smash HM?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More likely they didn’t even play HGSS and are just parroting what Pokemon(No Miltank)Challenges said

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played gen 1 was I was 9 and I am just realizing now how much fun johto is
    t. over 30

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