>At GDC, NVIDIA and CD Projekt are to present an emerging technology that will take graphics to a next level.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-and-cdpr-to-present-rtx-path-tracing-in-cyberpunk-2077-at-gdc
Cyberpunk 2077 getting a path tracing showcase, ready to make your GPUs sweat
This phonograph "reads" a rock’s rough surface and transforms it into beautiful ambient music pic.twitter.com/PYDzYsWWf8
— Surreal Videos (@SurrealVideos) March 3, 2023
more unnecessary shit to try and get people to upgrade their GPUs
Cool because cyberpunk 2077 is all bug fixed up. I'm sure they won't fuck this up.
Don't they still have a broken game to fix?
The 6/10 anime fixed everything, if you just ignore the game part.
Well, it's broken only for people who waited for it, newfags who came after anime know nothing about false promises so the game is fixed for them.
Cool. But I'm still not buying your overpriced GPUs.
poorfag detected
works on my machine
poo in loo
>implying designated street shitters have money to buy anything better than a gt 710
where’s the good gameplay showcase
Cybersisters..
>frog
I just want the DLC man
>dlc goes to the moon
>you find a depressed Lucy that's about to fry her brain to be with an AI construct of david she made
Do you flip the switch or make her stop.
I make her stop. She should start over with the chance she's been given and find new reason to live.
And then I do it myself so I can be with Rebecca.
yes, fuck the Hispanic ai
i would play this chud shit game if it had the anime artstyle of the moronflix show
I fucking hate mentally ill women so much.
They don't deserve a happy ending.
She’s not mentally ill, her boyfriend was.
Who cares? The game will still look like greenish over-saturated dogshit with plastic, flat environments and putrid character models.
It's like making detailed reflections on a glistening dogshit.
Not to mention that the game is poorly optimized and not graphically impressive anyway.
>3 years for a single shitty district that's all combat anyway + Idris Elba budget waste
Who cares?
I would enjoy CP2077 a whole lot more if every side quest and had voiced dialogue like TW3, instead of some rando just zipping me the deets.
bump
CDPR games would certainly be more enjoyable if they actually play-tested their own games to improve on the gameplay.
>lots of items with small differences in power, most of which will end up as vendor trash
>cluttered equipment crafting interfaces with a lot of stuff not worth crafting
>skills are all over the place in significance, most are pretty useless but some are super good
>easy to cheese the gameplay, almost Skyrim-tier, no real difficulty even on the hardest difficulties
These apply to both Cyberpunk 2077 and Witcher 3
jfc is that really what they are working on
I have a 1650(super). I don't care about NVIDIA RTX crap, just give me the Phantom Liberty DLC already!!!
Why is the best girl in the game lebean?
>best girl
Not a high achievement, there's only 3 women you can go after lol.
>edits porn all day
>ex is a whore
>fwb is a whore
>turbo gay underwater escort mission
>best girl
kys
seethe harder
no, tell me, what makes her the best girl?
is it her constant whining about muh sex workers, her shit tier unskippable vcr “gameplay”, what is it?
he don't know, because he is either a bot or a shill.
>ex is a whore
She was not. She was a prostitute.
that’s what whore means
One gives it away while the other profits from it
this is like saying: you aren't a gay; you're homosexual.
The words "whore" and "prostitute" are literally synonyms anon.
I think you've confused slut with whore, whore literally is a hooker.
Whore by definition means prostitute.
>they made the only attractive female in the game into a piece of shit dyke whore
imagine my shock
>Why is the best girl in the game lebean?
Panam is not a lesbian.
>emerging technology that will take graphics to a next level.
For the love of God QUIT IT WITH THE FUCKING GRAPHICS WANKERY
Motherfuckers with a 1030 will still call the game unoptimized because undertale works on their PC and this doesnt
Why didn't they just make all LIs bi? As things are, you basically have no choice since there is only one romance for each sex/orientation combo.
i think that was unironically the plan but due to the god awful launch and the wasted dev time they had to cut that shit short because of voice lines, animations, etc etc
or at least that's my headcanon
>or at least that's my headcanon
I've a headcanon too, that the magic usb was originally meant to contain whoever you picked as your idol - Silverhand, Blackhand, or Arasaka, since there was such an option in the character creator shown at e3. But then they got le wholesome chungus, and rewrote Silverhand to have a bigger role, and the only possible personality.
The animations are largely the same, and they already had the voice lines done by both V VAs anyway.
Who cares? They're all poorly written and disgusting looking anyway.
>path tracing showcase
I read that and initially thought they were making a roadmap for improved life paths kek
What a piece of shit game.
What's the point when they are going to switch to UE5 anyway
they’re probably just grasping for any way to stay relevant
>Shit game that runs at like 12fps without crappy fullscreen AI-drawn frames
>Extend ray tracing to more than one bounce
Cool so now it'll run at 5fps
>make your GPU sweat
i got a 4070ti
highest usage ive seen in this shit game is 19%.
how is it? I'm considering buying one. I'm seeing aot of people fear mongering about 12gb vram and 192 bit bus but youtube videos benchmarks make it seem like it plays everything 4K high settings fine especially if you use DLSS quality which is fine by me. The only problem I see is the price
That means you're severely CPU bottlenecked or you're playing with vsync enable. If you had an infinitely powerful CPU and disabled vsync you'd see near 100% GPU usage in every game that allowed infinite FPS.
That's not good at all, bro. If you're not close to 100% usage that means something is bottlenecking your GPU and not utilizing it to its full potential.
Not that anon I'm enjoying mine, but I'm not running a 4K monitor. I'm on 3440x1440 and it's been tackling everything I throw at it no sweat. At 4K it may run into some memory bandwidth issues depending on the game, but if you're at 1440p or use DLSS I doubt you'll run into any issues for a long while.
>path tracing
From gaytracing to fagtracing on the shittiest game of the generation.
Let's make the floor a mirror.
how many raytracing upgrades has the game had now? I feel like its had multiple
>oy vey this is bad goyim not buying new gpu
>think ... think goyim must suffer
>OH I KNOW we got path tracing buy 4090 goy
Even the 4090 struggles with fully path traced Portal from 2006 I think.
30 fps at 4k native,you need all dlss trickery to get to 100 fps.
CP 2077 is an extremely demanding game,what is It gonna run natively? 5 fps? L fucking MAO
if RT struggles on a fucking 4090 then you know the tech is garbage it's just like hairworks all over again
damn now we'll be able to play it in 14 fps instead of 30!
>What if we didn't do the work of creating good looking lighting by hand anymore and instead just expected the market to drop $2000-$3000 on an overpriced meme card?
>m-muh handcrafted static lighting that's literally just baked in raytracing that doesn't work with dynamic lighting
Go back to 7th gen.
>Go back to 7th gen.
I fucking wish, can I go back further?
rasterized lighting isn't good
Why?
it takes a long time to set up from the developer's side and often times they bake it in so that you're not allowed to move objects or the light source itself because it breaks the lighting in the scene
>it takes a long time to set up from the developer's side
devs should stop being lazy
> often times they bake it in so that you're not allowed to move objects or the light source itself because it breaks the lighting in the scene
no shit you stupid zoomer, also who the fuck cares
kill all zoomers
midwit post
I won't explain why because it'll just be wasted on you since you don't make games and you probably don't play them either, and you're poor too.
seriously suggesting that raytracing is good is retarded, so you calling me a midwit means nothing "bruh"
>so that you're not allowed to move objects or the light source itself because it breaks the lighting in the scene
Show me a single raytraced game with moveable light sources that aren't flashlights, which have already been pretty much perfected in rasterization anyways.
The only games I can think of with moveable light sources in the environment aren't even raytraced, stuff like The Division.
portal rtx
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So what about that required raytracing?
watch and listen to the video
>inb4 no
then I don't care either
I've already seen the video.
Answer the question.
What about having a ball of light that emits light and casts shadows required raytracing in order to function?
It's never just that though is it, one it's not just the emissive property of the ball of light that matters otherwise we'd just leave it right there nor the fact it can cast shadows off that point light. What matters is the dynamic nature of that light source and how that light source can create emissive properties off other light sources also make them cast their own shadows you also get light transference when you have light bouncing from one object to another. In essence you could create a ball of light that casts shadows but the moment you start moving shit around in the scene things start to break down in coherency and the stuff that's outside of screen space stops existing the moment you turn the camera.
People who generally advocate for rasterized effects will always use the exception as the rule using games like RDR2 as an indication that rasterized graphics can be good but always leave out the part that it cost Rockstar 500 million dollars to make and they'll conveniently ignore the thousands upon thousands of examples of games with bad rasterized effects.
>path tracing
Did i miss something? Wasn't the Ray tracing the latest gpu meme?
Its ray tracing on steroids,uses the same RT cores.
nice, more meme tracing algorithms that look no different compared to just baking stuff. What a waste of resources.
Potato cope as usual
Yea man that'll do it. The game looks so bad now. Now with some obnoxiously expensive kinda noticeable effect that only uber nerds with $1200 graphics cards can use, it'll finally look like a game worth taking screenshots of. Finally.
I have a 4090 and I haven't enabled ray tracing once. Sounds stupid.
Why?
>Already have a 4090 and building a PC
Too minimal a difference for too many resources used? I'll probably pay with it later, I'm content with all other settings cranked up for now.
Ah I see, Im kinda hyped cause I have never tried Ray Tracing you know, so I was surprised to see another guy with the king of GPUS, the 4090, not using ray tracing,maybe I end up on the same boat eventually haha.
It does seem to make reflections way more elaborate.
the best thing about ray tracing is global illumination, reflections are kind of a meme but having objects that emit light do it in realistic ways all the time is amazing and I'd take that every single time over raytraced reflections
Ignore Ganker, it's full of 1660 owners coping that their potato rig can't handle RT. It's great, especially GI and Reflection based stuff
>just buy the latest 2200 canacuck dollar GPU goy!
>Full path tracing in a game like this
LITERALLY sub 1 fps
don't worry the 5090 will be able to run it at 30 fps
Devs need to stop adding features nobody cares about at the expense of framerate. Target should be 120fps solid at 4K on a 4090 maxed out no DLSS bullshit. That way more reasonable folk can run the game at 1440p and poorfags have 1080p.
I want a path traced Kula World
Tha pic used for the game cover is path traced right?
Fuck they need to get on their asses and path traced old games rn
We need fps.
Instead of meme special effects we need high refresh rates(120hz+) to be the new standard in all displays.
Games from 2007 look better running at 4K/120fps than all this shadowy ambient occlusion crap.
Going over 60 fps is the definition of NEXT GEN graphics. They keep making new video cards when they should be upgrading the displays instead
I've been using my sony TV as my gaming monitor. I recently was gaming at 4k60fps, but I went down to 1440P with 120hz.
Now here's the trick, my sony TV has that AI upscale shit "reality creation" 1440P looks almost as good as 4K because it's getting upscaled (It's a 0-100 slider so I can adjust it, also have HDR, VRR)
I really recommend it over a monitor.
I'm using a Nano 90 55 inch screen. No point playing in 4K unless you have a bigTV screen
I have tried all kinds of 4k screen and hard disagree even on phones there is a small difference and on 27+ inches displays the difference is absurd if you sit close to it(like you should ,its a fucking PC ffs)
LoL I prefer to lean back on a couch and use a controller, gaming at a desk with a mouse is not ergonomic. Gaming on a big screen is royalty. I laugh at monitorfags
Fuck TV fags! Monitor is the way!
whats a good 27 inch 4k monitor?
Samsungs new 28 inch miniled new monitor is top notch.
RN Im using an slightly older 32 inch samsung led monitor.
cp2077 is pretty much the new crysis so I don't blame them for pushing this meme in this game
pretty much every other game lets you max out the settings with a 4090 and hit around 100 fps at 4k
>cp2077 is pretty much the new crysis
lol what?
it's the game people use as a benchmark
instead of 'but can it run crysis' it's now 'but can it run cp2077'
But any fucking computer can run the game.
It looks like fucking shit.
don't be pedantic
any pc could run crysis on low, we're talking about max settings here
ok?
this
>that "stay at your house" song
I'm glad it got recognition from the anime
I used to listen to it when they released the soundtrack driving through London at night during the pandemic
Felt like I was a lone man in the city going wherever I wanted with no traffic or hassle
Was extra comfy when it was raining
>put graphical settings to minimum
>LOOK THE GAME LOOKS LIKE SHIT SEEE
Oh wait, even worse. You're using a screencap of a pre-release dev version.
Here's your modern Crysis, bro.
>2 years ago
>low visual settings
>unpatched
>console
>probably ps4 or xbone at taht
>long distance LOD
You forgot to avatarfag with shazam, newfag.
Did they patch the 2D cars out?
Please pot a webm.
Why would they patch out a distant LOD model? Play the game numbnuts.
Oh, so you aren't actually rebutting anything.
I already did. You posted a console video from the original release and pretend a distant LOD model is a problem just because actual piss hardware from 2013 had its settings set really low.
Why do you keep talking bout "muh original release" as if the game got any graphical upgrades since?
It did. There have been multiple, on PC where such upgrades are available. Not on PS4. The patch notes are public. You're just an underage shazamposter whining about a game he never played.
Name the upgrades.
All of their patch notes are about fixing bugs and other shit like that.
Where did they say they improved the graphics on PC?
>didn't read any of the patchnotes
>pretends to know what's in them
>doesn't know the difference between release 8th gen console and current PC version
>keeps deflecting
I'm waiting, gay.
>posts ps4 video from his own channel while claiming it's current visuals
>cries deflecting when people won't google for him
Go back.
Cyberchud, post the PC graphics upgrades.
Do your own homework, junior. It's in the patch notes. Read them. Don't post until you've read them.
Which patch notes? What update?
Go ahead, answer that.
Read them. They're public. You haven't read them. You won't. Because you're 16 years old and vomiting memes your fellow underage shazamposter friends make about games they don't play.
KEK
There are no graphical upgrades on the PC.
There were none the last time I played which was version 1.23 or something like that.
There are none now.
>lying
>on the internet
Post the graphical upgrades, please.
>do my googling for me
No.
You're the one that made the claim.
The responsibility is on you to back it up.
You're the one that made the claim that the 8th gen console release in 2020 was representative of the current game's graphics.
Right, and I'm unable to find any graphics upgrades on PC.
Provide evidence for your claim if you want to be taken seriously.
You have the IQ of a fish. Do you actually think console graphics are equal to the maximum graphical settings on PC? I don't believe for a moment you've looked at the patch notes, which I have already told you about.
No I don't think consoles and PC look the same, but I have played this game on a PC at high settings and the game looked just like the video I posted.
>I don't believe for a moment you've looked at the patch notes,
moron there's been like 200 updates and the patch notes are all 3 pages long.
Every time I did read them they included like 200 bug fixes and compatibility things.
There were no graphical upgrades ever mentioned.
Try that lie on someone who hasn't played the game.
If it was a lie you would've disproven it already since it's so easy.
I don't need to prove a negative, the negative being that what you've said repeatedly is a lie. The game does not look anything like that PS4 2020 video maxed out.
No, you didn't.
It isn't a negative, retard.
Your claim is that the game has received graphical upgrades on PC since the release and that this is seen in the patch notes.
You've posted 0 evidence for this.
My claim is that the current state of the game and the game on PC does not look like a video filmed in 2020 on a ps4.
You are changing your argument, gay.
Cope harder gay
BTFO by a console fag
>PS4
You got to do what you got to do. I beat the game on PS4 first.
lol who cares about “muh graphics” when the core game is dogshit. You’re probably one of those consoomer gays who think CDPR “redeemed” themselves for making a broken game fucking playable
>goalposts: shifted
You didn't play the game and your opinion is invalid.
Not the anon you were talking to schizo
Also I did play the game gay. I played it on release and spent the entire time coping that I hadn’t just wasted my money. Wouldve 100% it if several open world filler missions didn’t bug out. Went back and tried playing it recently and dropped it after a few hours. There are some good moments but overall the game at its core is shit and no amount of patches will change that
Absolutely agree. Give me fps over meme graphics any day.
>path tracing
is this the epic new meme tech they will push on all games ?
Seems like it, yeah.
Path Tracing is faster than Ray Tracing. It's basically the DLSS of Ray Tracing.
But then why do you need a 40XX series card?
Because it's the new thing and they want you to pay 2000€ for a 4090
i must consooooom
if you actually see raytracing for yourself rendered on your own machine instead of on a shitty compressed Ganker webm you'll see the difference
Amid Evil has the best use of ray tracing I've ever seen. They should be adding it to old games like Thief. Sacrificing FPS for ray tracing is never worth it
granted these are garden gnometube videos but i honestly dont see much of a difference
>shitcher
that game is like 9 years old
They also claimed for years that Cyberpunk 2077 would take the RPG genre to "the next level" and look where that ended up.
It’s not even an RPG now. They removed it from the description.
Didn't Cyberpunk ALREADY have RTX?
>uhm ackshully this RTX is BETTER and MORE REALISTIC
meem tech shit
I mean yeah its the final step of ray tracing basically.
There is nothing after path tracing (I think).
I know there are some complications when rendering light trough glass objects so I might be wrong and there might be something else.
Are they trying to turn it into an unplayable pile of garbage again?
Fuck CDP Clown company
Fix the fucking game first you Polish morons
Alright anons, I'm starting a new run. What should my build be this time? I've already beaten the game with a max Netrunner build.
Sandevistan katanamaster. Cloaking.
>CDPR leeching money from novidya for patches
based
>thousands of patches to fix the dogshit performance
>decide to fuck it all again with useless shit
Just release the dlc you dumb polacks
Imagine working on that kind of shit on an engine they are abandoning in their next game, instead of working on their dlc, or even more, working to implement stuff they cancelled for the game.
the only reason to play cyberpunk is for the coomer mods.
NPCs Gone Wild is a good mod. Actually lore-friendly and appropriate. Hedonistic coomerism should be the default state of being in Cyberpunk universe.
>NPCs Gone Wild
Writing that down since only recently my PC can run this thing.
Very cool
Still not replacing my vega 56
Don't care, still won't enable any ray tracing meme.
>B-But it's actual proper lightning
Don't care
I still play it regularly. And I still have fun with it. For some reason, some people don't like that.
how many mods will work with v0.00 of the game? legitimately asking since i refuse to get a newer patch than the just before launch day fuckup from cdpr
That sounds like a You problem anon
it is but its worth it
>pathfinding is just worse raytracing according to the article
>Need a giga retard expensive card for it
???
>>Need a giga retard expensive card for it
Nvidia marketing. Artificial limiations on older cards.
How about adding that functional AI for police and other drivers first?
no refunds
any Vega 64 bros around?
Polaris here.
my RX580 is still nice but i like the vega 64 reference card more
>that will take graphics to a next level
I do not fucking care. Either fill that city with actual buildings you can enter or simply fuck off. That's where I'm at now.
Nice, another meme to gatekeeper 4k/144 for another few generations. No longer can you just buy one high-end GPU at the beginning of a console generation and play ever game maxed for 4 years. Now you need the new meme tracing 8.59 hardware to add more layers to the smegma textures.
Another raytraced game to make all the console and AMD peasants seethe, you're all on the wrong side of history gays, people are going to look back at AMDonkeys as Neanderthals, just like we did with programmable shaders, much like we did with tessellation.
>and AMD peasants seethe
But RDNA3 is fine.
What's that you want AMD's ambient occlusion solution in your game???
AMD has such little bro syndrome, constantly copying NVIDIA with FSR 2, now FSR 3 and "Look we can do raytracing too"
Cool but when are they going to work on making the open-world worth doing anything in?
I don't understand why devs make these ambitious games right off.
Make a fucking action game, nail art design, enemy AI, stats, balancing, animations, recoil, spread, formulas, music, etc... that's already a LOT of work.
and THEN cv paste that work into a RPG so you can focus on designing the world, the level design, dialogs etc...
There's no way you can do both at once.
>all this arguing over brands
listen anons, if it offers what you need, and comes with shit you dont, then thats what matters
>dlss/fsr/xess
>cuda/gpufort
>rtx as a whole
unless youre mining, or running some ai compute heavy shit then literally non e of these matter.
even if you go out of your way to argue dlss/fsr/xess is needed then that tells me the gpu is too weak to run native 4k games, and is literally irrelevant to the discussion. at no point should such be needed for you to enjoy the games you play. either run it at native 4k or settle for 1080p/1440p. why in the fuck would you upscale shit
>ray tracing is still a meme
>4K is still a meme
>let's try to shill YET ANOTHER gimmick
They need to save a new franchise somehow after wasting heaps of money on marketing, It's a cheap way to stay relevant.
My favorite part about the "broken promises" bit was the part when the videos said "Not representative of the final product" but everyone conveniently forgets that part
Yeah, nobody promised you that dozens of paid articles about the RPG system were truthful. The last one that mentioned non-existent classes was released less than a year before the release
what videos?
those are all generic, vague statements though. i suppose you could argue about how "advanced" the rpg mechanics, but the only thing quantifiable in that list it's missing is classes. i'm not the anon you're replying to, but the real problem with all this "broken promises" argument shit is that you can infinitely create bullshit things you expected from the game that it was never going to have. anyone that has played cdpr games before knew what kind of game they were going to make and they made it pretty on-formula
i'm impressed how many complete luddites post on Ganker these days
Fuckign around with cyberpunk mods recently, messing arounf with the raytracing. Reflections on cars and on windows look cool. Did notice that the reflected animated billboards showed different ads in the reflections though. The ray traced shadows look like absolute dogshit, fuzzy and shimmering. Regular fake shadows look good enough. Never noticed this much in any other game but the auto esposure on this game is very distracting, its constantly shifting the brightness as you look around.
>wants to see more games using RT for accurate reflections
>everyone just makets muh LIGHT N SHADOWS
Reflections are super costly, shadows and global illuminations work only because of denoiser.
Oh neat, more marketing bullshit made purely to get retards to buy $2k GPUs
>More gimmicky garden gnome graphics bullshit
>still no VR support
kek
I'd prefer if they get their next patch out that overhauls the police system instead of showing off with shit no one can use.
Theres a couple of police mods worth checking out. One is just improved police, where they will actually chase you in vehicles. Problem with that is they shoot at you, and veing in car doesn't stop you getting hit, and you can't heal while driving.
Then there's vehicle combat mod, you can shoot while driving and it has an improved police system where NPC's will call the cops and gangs will call for backup and chases can ensue. This mod also allows healing while driving. Weirdly thoughm you can run over pedestrians all day and never get any stars, something is not quite right with it, but it does kind of work.
That's neat but the game is still a piece of shit and grafixing it up won't change that.
what does one have to do with the other
New bad
old good