Like tarkov where you start together and have to escape together. However, there are actual classes you and your boys can choose from to make for a solid unit.
>no pvp
this game wouldnt even be fun without the pvp part
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1 year ago
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if they gave it a story it would
1 year ago
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Some of the best moments in a PvPvE game (Hunt for example) are when you don't even run into anyone and you just ratman the whole world, get the shit you wanna get and squirrel out of there.
1 year ago
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knowing there are people around is what makes that fun thought.
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I suppose that's true yeah.
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ofc, because it builds around it.
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this
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rouges are so funny, sometimes they obliterate you and sometimes they just crumple like wet paper.
it was hyped up by stupid fricking morons who watch twitch. It was a funny cute meme for a week and now people have moved on, no one gives a frick about this shit anymore.
Coop games are in high demand and people spend so much time with them that they try to find a new one to get their fix once they get bored of older ones so a lot of people jump into the newest thing for fear of missing out. Also this is one of the only types of games in this genre I can think of (FPS melee/magic combat with Tarkov/The Hunt style "progression").
Holy no-friends post
I watched Dist, Lobos and Ainrun play yesterday and they were having a blast. This game is based and if you can't understand the hyped, you are an incel, plain and simple.
>I watched Dist, Lobos and Ainrun play
I fricking knew it. The only way this unfinished shit could generate so much fake hype is by paying big streamers to co-op with other big streamers
i still don't know who the frick that is but I don't give a frick about reddit souls shit. Only streamers I know of from twitch around 2017 was forsen, kripp, clint stevens, mitch jones and sodapoppin. I know Soda still streams to this day.
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oh shit e-celebs from 2017, lmao why are you still here?
1 year ago
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I actually don't post much on Ganker I like Ganker way more, I actually laugh alot there. Covid turned Ganker into shit like that gay talking about e celebs. Also I've been posting here since I was 18 in 2015. I'm not super old.
1 year ago
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just know that he is a cuck and he is very fricking clueless 🙂
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>from 2017
all those souls streamers have been around since at least 2012, sodapoppin was streaming in 2008 or something.
another case of "fun with friends idiot", but this update was so fricking dead that there were only about 90 people on in peak Burger time. Took ages to find matches and it was usually 10/16. I don't know what happened, but I'm guessing streamers forgot that it was coming back during NextFest so maybe the zoomers will populate it by tomorrow.
Because it's free and hyped up. See also: Darktide beta vs current Darktide.
>no no no Darktide is a bad unfinished game made by incompetent devs trying to ride on the coat tails of the co-op fad!
At least the Darktide devs have a small chance of making their game good in a year, they (supposedly) made Vermintide 2 (it sure doesn't show though).
you only think its overtuned because you are solo. the problem with it is that is just boring after a few times and its only like 11 people who are always noobs and instantly die to the AI. the original dungeon is way more fun
i think im kinda burned out on all these playtests, i'll probably play again when the real game launches, but having to start from scratch x1000 is getting old, also solo dungeon is way overtuned, i sat in my cell and waited to see if anyone would escape, and the entire server wiped in minutes
>someone sees a Cleric (me) with a wraith and an skeleton archer tailing them >their first thought isnt "I should help so we can party up and I can get some of the big loot he was going after" >their second thought isnt "I should get the frick away so I don't draw agro when he dies" >its to mindlessly run to the cleric to try and M1 him >end up M1ing the Wraith in the process and getting both his attention and the archers while the Cleric runs away to a nearby teleport
Actual braindead players, what the frick is wrong with these people?
Don't know. I see it in every game similar to this. The PVPVE genre, that is. I get PVP 70% of the point, but at the same time NO ONE has any ability to analyze when they gain NOTHING from engaging another player. Except just to troll. And honestly that's likely enough for most people. At least Dark Dark you don't get trying to get the run back and then the run back and then the run back and then-
Don't know. I see it in every game similar to this. The PVPVE genre, that is. I get PVP 70% of the point, but at the same time NO ONE has any ability to analyze when they gain NOTHING from engaging another player. Except just to troll. And honestly that's likely enough for most people. At least Dark Dark you don't get trying to get the run back and then the run back and then the run back and then-
At least dead is dead.
Game does nothing to foster the desire to party up.
Does nothing to explain how to party up or that it's even an option or concept.
Game teaches you that death is deeply punishing and that other players are dangerous.
Game does nothing to teach you how to not get killed by other players, leaving the vast majority to hastily attack whoever they see.
I mean DRG is an absolute clinic on how to make players fundamentally think about and desire cooperation. I wish whatever money these Dumb and Dumber devs get instead went into DRG.
There's no actual incentive to party up, that's by design.
There's only 3-4 exits in the Solo Dungeon. Black folk keep all teaming and sucking each others dicks and then at the last minute realize they can't escape.
But there's an entire system to find vetted randos who won't kill you now. If you need a tutorial to tell you how to use that I think you're mentally moronic tbh.
How is this supposed to work with the fact they put a boss fight on the bottom floor? This entire dungeon is funny in a dumb way, but it's also bad design. I feel like they added it out of pure spite for people who demanded a solo queue.
I dont know what it is but as a Cleric people seem way more likely to bum rush me when I'm solo. Like literally drop everything and chase me half way across the map, doesn't matter if I am standing there fully buffing myself they still come at me half the time
Just finished levelling up a Cleric. Didn't try him last playtest, and he's pretty fun solo. Decent DPS against mobs, tons of sustain and free heals, and some nice buffs to speed things along. The only downside is he feels really slow. Can't catch people running away, or run away yourself. Still, if you're desperate, you can park your fat ass in a doorway so only 1 member of the 3 man can attack you at once.
Quarterstaff is pretty slick on barbarian. Fast, relative to the other options, and has an easy swing to smash doors with. Blocking is neat but haven't really tried to use it in combat yet.
Big fan of the war maul's new M2 as well, though I wish the first attack of the combo was a thrust instead of a swing.
I unironically find solo castle easier because of the huge size and the abundance of blue portals. If you get into a bad engagement in the cave you can almost never run away because you're bound to aggro something, and unless you camp the staircase exit the final phase is a cluster frick 90% of the time.
Why are people so fricking thirsty for kills in castle.
Literally just had a fully kitted Cleric who was fighting a Wraith just drop everything and try and try to kill me and two other guys, only to promptly get BTFO by the Wraith.
When someone starts attacking the Wraith and talking over coms saying "are you friendly?" repeatedly I think your safe not to sperg out and guarantee your death to the the mob all of you were focusing on.
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>are you friendly?
pvp game
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it's strange to me that Tarkov is a much friendlier game (at least when you're playing as gopniks) than this is right now, even with how the devs are trying things like directional voip and emotes like "I surrender".
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I assume people don't really care because lul only beta
I have a similar story >Be humble, friendly cleric >I crouch for peace with a beaten up 3 man party >They as for heals over comms >I heal everyone with Sanctuary, am then officially recognized as one of the gang >Help new team fight a wraith >Suddenly another team enters the fight >I buff and heal who I can, but I lose track of who's who because the Barb was the only one with a mic >Bonk a fighter on the head, not sure if it was my guy or their guy, and he falls like a sack of potatoes >Wizard, not sure if ours or theirs, starts looting the fighter body >Escort wizard to blue portal >Steal a portal from a duo trying to kill me
I don't know if I did a good thing, or a bad thing. But I mean, I got a purple frock from it, so that's something.
Why are all the enemies just absolute tanks in the solo dungeon? I tried it out at level 5 on my Ranger with slightly better than starting gear and it was ridiculous how many enemies there are and how much HP they have. I spawned next to two goblin warriors, a goblin archer, and a flying beetle thing and had no chance.
I was in a solo, where these 3 people decided to talk to each other and clear rooms. I thought that shit was fricking crazy, so I killed 1 of them then injured the other. I am pretty sure all 3 died.
>newtard cleric with no experience outside of goblin cave >get a rogue friend to join me and do the regular dungeon together >other players all kill each other while we slowly clear out rooms >escort roguebro to a blue portal, take a nearby red one for myself not knowing what the difference is >minutes later friend watches as I get torn limb from limb by demon dogs in a floor I had no business being on
I got what I deserved for being dumb but it was still funny.
I played 4 hours of barbarian. Movement and attacking both feel awful. I haven't found anything exciting. I'll go an hour without seeing another player melted by other players and have been largely unable to hit them because everyone is faster than me in movement and attack speed. I just uninstalled.
yeah but its still the best weapon you got, go on youtube and watch some epic twitch streamer barb videos. 19/20 times its going to be them using felling ax
Played 8 hours of barbarian and I fricking love it >dick ass rogue thief stabbing you?
drink blue potion and swing at him twice, dead - you can tank tens of stabs >surrounded by enemies?
use scare skill to get them off you in an instant >can't be fricked to open doors / crates?
just hit them with your axe to break them
atmosphere, tension, setting, PvPvE
it's the best dungeon crawling experience I've had in probably a decade with only Barony coming close but that's a very different game
>atmosphere >WOOOOO LET TURN OFF THE BRIGHTNESS AND MAKE EVERYTHING DARK WOOOOO WE CALL IT "ATMOSPHERIC" >tension >WOOOOO LET ADD MORE HP AND DMG TO THIS MMO CREATURE AND MAKE WEST PIGS SHIT THEIR PANT SO TENSION >setting >WOOOOOO DND gayS IN DUNGEONS. KOREAN INVENTED THIS >PvPvE >MY asiatic CLICKS IS BETTER THAN YOUR asiatic CLICKS
different anon here
you're trying too hard. the harder you try to simplify and disparage something, the less I believe you. just say that you don't like the game
>atmosphere, tension, setting
this game has none of those things, this game is for people who have friends to bully solos in greys and nothing more, when new people stop playing this piece of shit gank squads have no one left to bully and they'll go back to tarkov.
you're a solo player who, unlike myself, sucks and got bullied
you never experienced the euphoria that comes from that 200IQ play during which you manage to completely fool a party of 3 and kill them all
barbarian seems like that worst class. I don't even know how you're supposed to do anything when your walking speed is that slow and you're not even one shoting wizards
i went on a 20 escape spree and must've killed two dozen mages. you have no power here
based barbchad
what do you do against strong enemies like the Centuar? from my experience it's almost impossible to space them with a two-handed weapon without taking significant damage
Barbarian because most people don't want to frick with you because you'll almost always win a direct fight if you know what you're doing. You're essentially the alpha male of the dungeon.
>Discord filled with Rangers tard raging and saying their class is dead because they made arrows fall like rocks in the air.
This is the best playtest so far. Feels good that Rangelets have to actually play the game now and can't just kite people 2 rooms away.
>newbie first time player >choked looting a player i ambushed loaded with greens and blues because i took too long to loot and his buttbuddies caught up to me
It's only having 2 week long play tests every 2 months or so, general would die off too quickly. There probably should be one in April when they're supposed gonna do an 'Early Access' release for it though but until then I don't see the point. It won't be on the board long enough to piss people off.
I just installed and tried wizard and it seems impossible, literally nothing dies, isn't this supposed to be the glass cannon? I die ridiculously fast and enemies are made of unbreakable diamonds.
They semi-nerfed Wizard and starting out as Wizard is fricking brutal. It's a lot easier when you ditch the staff though and get perks but until then you can either bash your head in or play another character, get gold, and transfer it to your Wizard with a friend.
Once you get gear though honestly I think they kind of shadowbuffed them.
That's fricking dumb, is it normal that the moment an enemy closes up on me I'm 99% going to die?
Even if I escape with invisibility or haste I'm just going to run into more unkillable enemies because they are literally everywhere so what is the point?
Most spells are either AOE which kills yourself in these cramped caverns or require you to stand still, so if the enemy ever reaches you there is no chance of surviving.
I literally killed 4 shitty weak mobs over the course of 15 "runs" (which lasted less than 2 minutes each).
Crystal sword and staff is not only a meme but gimps your class to a ridiculous degree. Get book or better yet crystal ball and a DAGGER. Then run at people and die 50 times until it clicks and your fingers learn to navigate spells fast. Don't bother wearing any armour that's not giving you int/magic damage being fast is better.
Magic missile invis haste fireball and flame weopen are the good spells. Get into the rotation of Meditateing all the time.
After you do all that you are the best class in the game.
>equipment
Dude I can't complete a single run. >people
I die to goblins 9 out of 10 times.
>I die to goblins 9 out of 10 times.
Unironically, as someone who regularly extracts as a solo in the group dungeon, the dedicated solo goblin dungeon is a fricking mess. The layout of the dungeon is pretty good, but the enemy placement is utter trash. It's clear it was very rushed. I think you'll have a better time in the group dungeon as a solo. You don't have to deal with as many enemies at once, and there's more blue portals to go around (though there's less than last time).
yep, I can't move around at all, I just get swarmed and instantly die, breakable obstacles everywhere, and as soon as I haste or invis I run into 3 traps
Yeah you just gotta get over the first hill. Play ratty as frick until you find a Book or Dagger, and then build a safety nest. MM is your best friend, aim for headshots.
They really should make Staffs not 100% fricking useless so beginner Wizard isn't suffering like this but it's the rite of passage every Wizchad must go through.
>That's fricking dumb, is it normal that the moment an enemy closes up on me I'm 99% going to die?
When youre a novice yeah, but once your fingers get good at haste and invis its not a problem since no one can actually get up to you or get more then a swing in before youre miles away or just gone.
Honestly dude maybe play a different class for a bit until you get a better feel for the game. Wizard has the highest learning curve wall in the game and if youre doing solo it may be to hard to even learn.
The last advice I can give you, is that when you die instead of going back to the lobby, spectate other wizards and see what they are doing. Honestly learned quite a bit about the "flow" of wizard just watching some dude soling as wizard when I died on my warrior.
They semi-nerfed Wizard and starting out as Wizard is fricking brutal. It's a lot easier when you ditch the staff though and get perks but until then you can either bash your head in or play another character, get gold, and transfer it to your Wizard with a friend.
Once you get gear though honestly I think they kind of shadowbuffed them.
Crystal sword and staff is not only a meme but gimps your class to a ridiculous degree. Get book or better yet crystal ball and a DAGGER. Then run at people and die 50 times until it clicks and your fingers learn to navigate spells fast. Don't bother wearing any armour that's not giving you int/magic damage being fast is better.
Magic missile invis haste fireball and flame weopen are the good spells. Get into the rotation of Meditateing all the time.
After you do all that you are the best class in the game.
They nerfed Wizard's early/starting game, but gave his late game (IE, a super geared wizard) a bit of a buff. Remember, your offensive spells can headshot. Fireball is your rocket launcher, Magic Missile is your minigun. Haste + invis is your get out of jail free card. The rest are situational.
So if I want to not get mogged by 3 stacks I need to go to the Goblin rape cave? Kind of wish they'd steal the thing from Hunt Showdown where you can just check a box saying put me in the 3 stack lobbies and have an alternate lobby for Solos/Duos.
>Playing Cleric >Run into a two man, a fighter and a cleric >Crouch but they don't crouch back, so I keep my distance >Run into them later, they're fighting a wraith >The fighter dies >I jump in and start wailing on the wraith >Save the Cleric >A solo Ranger jumps us when we're low, but we manage to escape >I heal us back to full >We team up and clear rooms, waiting for the blue portals to spawn >Eventually we run into that Ranger again >Has Rangerbrain, and decides his best course of action is to walk into melee range of two clerics with every buff under the sun >Can't land headshots, so he does zero damage >Dies instantly to our sticks and clubs >Is a loot pinata >We dance on his corpse >2 blue portals appear right beside each other, and we bid each other a tearful goodbye
See you, space cowboy.
>movement and combat are slow and methodical >but the fortnite bubble forces you to be fast so there's no strategy possible at all
the worst of both worlds, also it's extremely repetitive
I worry eventually becomes never and temporary mechanic becomes permanent. As these things tend to in development of any game. Compromising in the short term usually means settling long term.
To quote another Anon:
Skills = Smite and Spell Memory.
Perks = blunt weapon mastery + undead slaying + perseverance + advanced healer (affects your lesser heal spell) or brewmaster if you want to punch people to death.
Spells = Lesser heal (15 hp healed on cast, 20 if you take advanced healer, and you can use it on yourself), Divine strike (+10 weapon damage for 20 seconds), Protection (20 value shield for 20 seconds), Sanctuary (massive healing spell that requires you to stand still, recovers around 60% of your HP), and Bless (I always forget to use it, but it buffs your strength, agility, and will). The spell buffs are pretty self explanatory. Sometimes I use protection for skeleton archers, sometimes not.
PVE is pretty easy with Cleric if you're facing a melee enemy. You can cheese mobs by going underneath them on an incline, holding your shield out, and looking straight up. They'll either miss entirely, or they'll hit your shield. Takes a while to kill them though because you're whacking their legs most of the time. You can also do the "hold shield out and look up" thing without a hill, but it's a bit trickier to get the hang of. I don't always block every time. Looking up and towards the arm that's swinging the weapon seems to help.
PVP is tricky. In 1v1s, you're actually pretty good. If you get your buffs off before a fight starts, you're really tanky and dish out a lot of damage because your mace trajectory. It's really easy to score headshots with it. You can almost always safely facetank Rogues (from the front), Rangers, and Wizards. The mob cheese strat works well against a lot of Barbarian players, too. Most barbarian weapons swing vertically down, so if you hold your shield up, look up, and crouch, more often than not it'll bounce off your shield. Takes practice though, and I'm far from good at it. Then when they miss, you just bop them wherever is closest. It's a really sad, slow death for them.
To quote another Anon:
Skills = Smite and Spell Memory.
Perks = blunt weapon mastery + undead slaying + perseverance + advanced healer (affects your lesser heal spell) or brewmaster if you want to punch people to death.
Spells = Lesser heal (15 hp healed on cast, 20 if you take advanced healer, and you can use it on yourself), Divine strike (+10 weapon damage for 20 seconds), Protection (20 value shield for 20 seconds), Sanctuary (massive healing spell that requires you to stand still, recovers around 60% of your HP), and Bless (I always forget to use it, but it buffs your strength, agility, and will). The spell buffs are pretty self explanatory. Sometimes I use protection for skeleton archers, sometimes not.
PVE is pretty easy with Cleric if you're facing a melee enemy. You can cheese mobs by going underneath them on an incline, holding your shield out, and looking straight up. They'll either miss entirely, or they'll hit your shield. Takes a while to kill them though because you're whacking their legs most of the time. You can also do the "hold shield out and look up" thing without a hill, but it's a bit trickier to get the hang of. I don't always block every time. Looking up and towards the arm that's swinging the weapon seems to help.
PVP is tricky. In 1v1s, you're actually pretty good. If you get your buffs off before a fight starts, you're really tanky and dish out a lot of damage because your mace trajectory. It's really easy to score headshots with it. You can almost always safely facetank Rogues (from the front), Rangers, and Wizards. The mob cheese strat works well against a lot of Barbarian players, too. Most barbarian weapons swing vertically down, so if you hold your shield up, look up, and crouch, more often than not it'll bounce off your shield. Takes practice though, and I'm far from good at it. Then when they miss, you just bop them wherever is closest. It's a really sad, slow death for them.
As for PVP against 2 or 3 people it's pretty hard, though that's to be expected. Most of the time you're kind of fricked if a 3 man sets their sights on you. The few times I miraculously beat a group attacking me, I took advantage of doorways. Most clerics are pretty slow (slow movement speed, slow to open doors), so you're not going to outrun them if they're already close. But if you sit around/in a doorway, typically the only person that can hit you is their frontline. They also can't flank you because there's no way through the door, they'd have to go a long way around. This tactic kind of nullifies their ranged attacks. Of course, if the team has a Cleric, they'll probably just heal through the damage you're doing. And of course, if they're moronic, they'll actually kill each other with friendly fire. You never really know what to expect.
But yeah, doors and narrow paths are your friend. As for weapons just play around with them and see what you like. Maces are slow and clunky, but they get the job done most of the time. They also don't usually get caught on the environment like 2 handed weapons can.
The swarm is your friend, once you get going you really don't need heals except maybe a campfire to regen spells. Really good idea to just run in to the swarm against other players and bait them.
To quote another Anon:
Skills = Smite and Spell Memory.
Perks = blunt weapon mastery + undead slaying + perseverance + advanced healer (affects your lesser heal spell) or brewmaster if you want to punch people to death.
Spells = Lesser heal (15 hp healed on cast, 20 if you take advanced healer, and you can use it on yourself), Divine strike (+10 weapon damage for 20 seconds), Protection (20 value shield for 20 seconds), Sanctuary (massive healing spell that requires you to stand still, recovers around 60% of your HP), and Bless (I always forget to use it, but it buffs your strength, agility, and will). The spell buffs are pretty self explanatory. Sometimes I use protection for skeleton archers, sometimes not.
PVE is pretty easy with Cleric if you're facing a melee enemy. You can cheese mobs by going underneath them on an incline, holding your shield out, and looking straight up. They'll either miss entirely, or they'll hit your shield. Takes a while to kill them though because you're whacking their legs most of the time. You can also do the "hold shield out and look up" thing without a hill, but it's a bit trickier to get the hang of. I don't always block every time. Looking up and towards the arm that's swinging the weapon seems to help.
PVP is tricky. In 1v1s, you're actually pretty good. If you get your buffs off before a fight starts, you're really tanky and dish out a lot of damage because your mace trajectory. It's really easy to score headshots with it. You can almost always safely facetank Rogues (from the front), Rangers, and Wizards. The mob cheese strat works well against a lot of Barbarian players, too. Most barbarian weapons swing vertically down, so if you hold your shield up, look up, and crouch, more often than not it'll bounce off your shield. Takes practice though, and I'm far from good at it. Then when they miss, you just bop them wherever is closest. It's a really sad, slow death for them.
I would say you can switch out judgement with that AOE undead damage thing if you are default gear but judgement is what makes cleric decent at pvp
Most important item on cleric are those tavern drinks, once you get brewmaster always bring 3
I've tried to but I don't know enough about the map to extract properly considering portals aren't set spawns. Plus the starting gear is kind of dogshit and I get overwhelmed easily.
What's your alternative to the ebin bubble? >Roaming packs of top tier enemies spawn at the edge and go from room to room clearing them of hiding players >If you can kill them and escape you can get some extra loot but they're way too dangerous to take on without a perfect area setup to fight them
>torches on the walls slowly start dimming and eventually go out >unnatural darkness seeps in from the corners, spreads slowly from room to room starting at random locations >no contracting circles but eventually will cover the map >at first if you stand still in the dark for too long you take damagedie, eventually even when moving >effects can be negated for some time by using a torch or a campfire, but eventually even those start dimming unnaturally quickly >can still make short forays into the darkness using torches or magic >note that during regular hours standing in the dark does not damage or kill, only when the torches start going out on their own, also soundUI cues so that you can still take advantage of low light levels during regular gameplay >portals more likely to spawn in lighted areas, but can be in darkness as well, emit some light to aid in last second escape, but don't protect from the dark
I don't understand how a game this fricking ugly is using unreal engine, it looks like oblivion with those gaudy graphics mods that make everything look overly saturated and wrong.
>What's the Gankererdict?
If this game continues to get more updates and content I will play forever. Just started today and I'm madly in love. Only gripe is that I wish the dungeons were randomly generated, because it does get tiring seeing the same shit in the same place. >What classes have you played? Barbarian. I may not extract every time but I always feel like an absolute unit whether I live or die.
Still no but hopefully all the verticality issues with the Solo Dungeon make them reconsider. Shit could happen in B3 sometimes but obviously more people are gonna b***h about it now.
This game have a major design flaw.
The equipment itself, is the major design flaw.
If they design it to be too shitty, then there's no point to collect anything from the dungeon since equipment doesn't matters.
If they design it to be too strong, then players wearing strong armors will just snowballs and new players don't stand a change.
The game is dead before it's even complete.
>If they design it to be too strong, then players wearing strong armors will just snowballs and new players don't stand a change.
fully decked out people will 100% one tap you and feel no pain in a "fair fight" against your greys though. Yet all their purple gear wont save your from a party of naked wizards who opens the door and catches them fighting a skeleton.
Purples are very strong indeed, but the strongest weapon in this game is [circumstance and pure chance]. It simply does not pay to walk into low roller dungeons with purples even if you extract 19/20 times. (you wont)
its not really an "argument", its just a statement of fact against your assumption. Purples are very very good, and you do obliterate people without any so its IS strong. Yet due to the way the game plays, it simply doesn't PAY to bring purple gear on every run in the basic dungeon. You lose more then you gain playing that way until you don't have the money to keep bringing purples.
piece of shit steamer FOTM. Combat sucks, ai sucks, pvp sucks, optimization sucks. point and click at enemies like it's 2004 and youre playing morrowing. Korea should stop making games.
So, the felling axe for the Barbarian is supposed to be able to 2 shot pretty much every class or at least enemies on headshot and it's faster to recover from landed hits with it but I noticed the range on it seems so much shorter than what you have for the default axe. Also, you don't have combo attacks for it, just one single downwards stroke.
Game feels slow, clumsy, unresponsive. Game speed needs to be 2x on all animations for it to actually feel good. (Note: I don't care if you're the top of the leaderboard at Snail and Snailer, wow you're the fastest snail).
>Classes
Tried all the classes, really boring and shallow. Devs are too young/slavic to have played Dark Messiah or Nosgoth I guess?
Has the Tarkov thing where gear >>>>>> skill except there isn't even an aiming / fps skill to fall back on
>filtered! filtered!
Yes, the game neither explains itself nor is it in any way designed to be intuitive, while also being pretty clumsy, sloppy, slow, with jank animations and bugs where PvE enemies and players do strange things due to animation bugs in a game that is deliberately slow and clumsy so as to be """"tactical""" or whatever.
Overall it's like a $5 game maybe? Like there a dozen Tarkov games now and this is probably one of the worst out there?
Also if it did become popular, which obviously it won't, the devs will be even less equipped than the Tarkov devs to handle cheating.
I wish modern game devs had even 10% of the originality but all we get is an endless wave of BR clone after BR clone, the best one being decided by whoever paid the most amount of stream time because they're all pretty much identical.
Yeah that game was great, played it a ton. The skill floor was high enough that you could have fun even as a noob, yet the skill ceiling was also high enough that if you were a good player you could dominate a match.
I was expecting this to be Tarkov + Nosgoth but instead it's just shit.
animation canceling melee into whatever was the other action on the default pounce vampire was kind of braindead ooga, in general the vamps were a bit too oogabooga, but i still remember how any decent lobby the humans would always win
The pacing is just completely fricked, it pretends to be this slow tactical thing but matches are extremely short, there's none of that atmosphere you'd expect from a game like this.
Yeah it's really weird. PvE enemies seem deeply overtuned and jank, while PvP enemies pretty much feel like PvE enemies but with variable stats due to gear.
I was expecting some depth to the melee system but there's absolutely none. Mount & Blade PvP styles on this dogshit
imagine if there was like no gear and you were always 1:1 power with the lobby
and like when you killed another player, it would like.. respawn you, and there was like... a scoreboard? and if you placed high on the scoreboard the game would reward you
>LE DEEP SLOW TACTICAL GAME >get bumrushed 15 seconds into the match by some guy and die
Mhhh, yes this is truly the dungeon crawling experience I want
Not even close, there's two maps and they're always the same.
Rounds last like 15 minutes or whatever.
You crawl through the map like a loot snail made of jank.
I mean it *could* be; like if the DRG devs made it or something.
I've tried all the classes but can't keep myself from playing cleric. It's just too comfortable being a healer.
Smite also makes you hit pretty fricking hard
>playing as squad of 3 >find squad of 2 near the end of the round >ask us to be friendly over voice, we agree >when the blue portals spawn tell them they can take them first >as they're leaving betray and kill them >fighter asks "why are you like this" as he's dying >loot a purple shield off his body
trust no one
I'll be honest, I think they shouldn't even wait to finish their quest nonsense, and whatever else, that's supposed to replace the fortnite ring. Literal straight improvement to the game just to remove it as is. It's the most common complaint I hear and the reason everyone I know won't play it.
There's already more than enough incentive not to frick around forever in the corners of the map.
Limited loot. Limited enemies to farm. Limited exits that will primarily spawn in the center of the map anyway. Hitting the maximum timelimit will instantly kill you. It's super easy to get nothing out of a run just from fricking around as is. I'm betting people will learn FAST they can't just lurk in the edge of the map if they actually want to play the game.
This game sort of just doesn't know what it wants to be >Tarkov Dungeons and Dragons with a fortnite storm bubble >but the money is almost always spent on healing items >you can wipe entire servers naked if you're running the right strategy and the only thing that might improve your chances is a better weapon as a melee user >standard dungeon crawler, so throw in pve enemies >most pathing AI that isn't flying is braindead so make everything twice as spongey as they probably should be >now let's add a damaging bubble that you can easily outheal because ???????
I guess they got really excited at the idea of being a Diablo looter, Tarkov infil/exfil, Fortnite standoff game, but they just seem to have shipped it out to testing before they could figure out what people even fricking care about? It might as well be the Fortnite aspect, because wiping rooms of players out is the best feeling so far. Getting out with loot doesn't really matter, the enemies are garbage, the castle is small and the same every time, the traps are shown on a fricking minimap, the 'dark and darker' is just an annoying thing pushing you towards the exits so dipshits trying to rat the whole match have to duke it out (or just steal the fricking portal like a normal person).
There's not enough content to know what it's actually going to be. I don't need to have any of this loot or gold, or this moronic leaderboard for that matter. Leveling up is way more important and I still get a lot of XP for dying as long as I take a few rogues and wizards with me. But now I'm just going back in to fight more idiots but I'm at a higher level so there's a better chance that the balance scales in my favor when I wipe out newbies? This game is kind of a mess.
man, that's a lot of assumptions and thinking you put into your post, but you failed to realize the most important thing:
the game is in test phase, a many features will be added and many will likely change, the point of these public test weeks is to experiment and gather data
the devs admitted that even the way the death circle is in currently is a work in progress thing
>it's a test phase
that's kind of what I said in my post and it's not like I haven't seen games pull complete 180s in under a year to make a completely different game. My worry is that I'll be holding my breath for some bullshit I won't care about when it comes out.
so don't do it then, it is pointless to get worked up about things over which we have zero control
honestly, I doubt the AI or the monster's behavior will get much better and I don't think it is a good sign that they gave in to the early access demanding crowd and will make it instead of a full release when it's done
but whatever, there are many other games to play and maybe DnD's success will spark the creation of some other dungeoncrawlers later
it's silly to think the game will fundamentally change this late into development, even the bubble thing is coping since they will have to replace it with effectively the same thing since the entire rest of the game is designed around that
>make the castles way fricking bigger >darkness still happens, but it isn't just chip damage. Wall lanterns burn out, torches are half as good, new enemies roam in the dark. This means good chunks of areas are more dangerous to explore all around, but would be worth investigating at the risk of not being able to get back to the light >add fricking quests jesus christ stop whatever you're developing right now and give us some fricking quests you can either get from merchants (Main quests) or straight from the dungeon (side quests) >bonus points: ape the "scavs" aspect and let people play as little loot goblins halfway through a match and can only play effectively in the dark, but they can escape with a tinier backpack of shit they find
>but the money is almost always spent on healing items
speak for yourself >the only thing that might improve your chances is a better weapon as a melee user
try playing a fighter with good armor
>Mad trinket loot >Portal stone was in room above >Last portal stone was in corridor with a Skelly Champion
Gay ass fortinite bulshit. I want to stop playing this shit game but I cant
>again last portal >this time everthing went alright >just me in a room, no enemies, last player >portal is open about to step in the blue ring >get killed by some random mage goblin out of nowhere in a room Ive never seen a mage goblin
How am I supposed to play barbarian? I'm slow as frick, I have to run behind everybody and they can just kite me with faster movement and faster weapons which all have the exact same reach any way
They really need to enable some brackets or some shit if they want this game to survive. It is not fun getting bodied by a guy in full plate and some fricking forcefield 15 seconds into a game
You're so shortsighted, that defeats the entire purpose. If you manage to kill that guy in full plate you can loot all his good shit off him and all you had to do was risk your worthless starter gear.
This and sea of thieves are the biggest fricking monkeys paw games for me.
I just want a fricking co op dungeon crawler, or a co op pirate game. It's all I've wanted since back in the days of eye of the beholder and Sid Meier's pirates.
Nah bro, have your pvpve battle royale or pointless shallow loot grabbing game instead.
Why is deep rock galactic the only decent role-based Co-op game? Why have no other devs capitalised on its success?
At least in SoT I can frick off in to the Devil's Roar and the schizos can't be bothered with me. On the other hand, dead is dead in Dark Dark. So long as I win my fight, I'm assured that person will leave me alone. I get the genre here is PVPVE, meaning PVP is a major feature, but at the same time most people playing these would be better off playing some kind of arena PVP game.
>I just want a fricking co op dungeon crawler
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1465070/Legendary_Tales/
It's VR, but basically Darker and Darker coop dungeon crawler, like exact same game but more diabloish.
VR community shitted on the game due to lack of enemies variery and the price
how the frick am i supposed to land any hits with barbarian face to face when the Black person keeps blocking with shield and back stepping
if i try to just bumrush them head on they can keep up the shield infinitely and block attacks
That's the current schizo theory yes. Goblin Rape Caves are a meme
Is the other dungeon easier? It's my first time playing and I've only tried the goblin lair. Mobs are moronic so it's not really hard but my k/d with player is like 1 kill 5 deaths
The barbarian is so fricking slow it's absurd. Even crossbow guys can shoot and reload multiple time before I reach them
The NPC enemies in the castle aren't nearly as numerous or as punishing as the rapegoblins. Getting hit even one time by a gob warrior or archer can take almost any class to half health when you're a poor noob starting out, and they generally come in packs. Not so in the castle, where your primary enemies are slow-moving skeletons and zombies.
I've never seen any on the new map and I get to the end almost every time
1 year ago
Anonymous
Use your ears more, they make a distinct rumbling sound when they pop out of the ground. Also they love to pop up on the highest levels of the most awful parts of the dungeon at least in my experience, like in this room
remember to crouch jump anons
1 year ago
Anonymous
i mean i dunno what to tell you, you can see in the chat log when they spawn. additionally at a certain point you can just walk out the door.
Solo dungeon, we're last two left. Half health, shit gear*, on proximity chat "let's work together Mr. Rogue" nah bum rush me and then die 90 seconds later.
*didn't even loot me just desperately trying to get to safety
If people really give me "dont want to fight" body language ill let them leave but no way I trust another man to stand in my personal circle. Any second they can just stand swinging on you and its basically over if they get that many free hits.
Why did they design the castle to be easier to solo than the actual solo dungeon? To mock people asking for solo mode?
That's the current schizo theory yes. Goblin Rape Caves are a meme
its supposed to be challenging. If anything, they are just over tunning it then tunning down until its balanced. Thats how most multiplayer games are balanced nowadays. Over tune the tweek.
Biggest issue is how dogshit all the starting gear is. Even just finding a simple white Falchion doubles my damage output and now things actually don't feel like damage sponges
God this room is so truly awful to navigate. I feel like at least 50% of the final circle on that map winds up being there and you have to run around in fricking circles to go up levels.
starter weapons are terrible on purpose and the first tier of stuff you find just above them aren't much better. When you are geared NPCs fall over except in the deepest levels of the dungeon
I finally managed to solo the Troll King with starter gear + 11g grey zweihander AND make it out. Took me at least 10 tries, sometimes the boss would wreck me, other times the circle would be on the other side of the map, and one time some unbelievable c**t gatecrashed and got me killed in the middle of a run. Got 2 blues and a crappy purp shield. Definitely didn't make back the investment in time I spent on this, but the thrill of the kill made it worth it. Still not doing it again. Bonking heads in pvp is a lot more fun.
>Goblin health reduced by 10%. >Goblin Warrior/Archer’s poison damage has been slightly reduced. >Goblin Archer's slow effect has been removed. >Goblin Archer's damage has been slightly reduced. >Goblin Mage's projectile speed has been slightly reduced but it now gives a slow debuff when hit.
here you go, gays
the critical flaw of the solo dungeon >9 enter >3 portals
atm people are dying off fast enough that the final portals are rarely ever contested, but in a day or two when ppl are better and have better gear it can vary easily turn into everyone's alive and whoever gets lucky with the portal spawning on them gets out.
the final portal appears late enough that everyone left will likely fight over, but if it's in an area of multiple elevations; latter remains
i just wasted my entire match being chased around by a skeleton champion
what the frick is wrong with the AI in this game?
it should have stopped following me at some point but it just kept on homing on me everywhere
this game is like asset store shit with the worst ai ever created by man on 10tick servers. which is why i hope literally any company or modders steal the idea and make it better.
The only thing i hate about forced co-op is when your 2 idiots die you basically can't do anything but run and hide.
It stands for any br now, apex has same problem. You just can't win 1vs3 if they are not total morons.
Well good news for you that they are exploring a soloqueue dungeon mode now. 1v3 are possible, although generally through gear difference rather than skill. If you're saying you should be able to 1v3 every time against equally skilled and geared players then I think you might be moronic.
Man, this being a melee-focused game while having gear rarity that is incredibly important for damage numbers/damage reduction just feels bad. It feels like there's little outplay potential playing certain classes.
Wait, I lose everything on death?
Back to my noob gear?
What the frick? How's any semblance of progression possible like this?
What's the point of acquiring better gear if you'll just lose it next time you encounter a gang squad of three players?
You build up wealth in your stash over time. Also it's not really that difficult to get lucky and get your hands on decent mid-tier gear, I went into runs naked a bunch of times today and emerged with a respectable amount of gear only to lose it in another game or two. Getting too attached to a weapon you picked up isn't really a problem once you have enough GP piled up in your stash and you can just go into the trading channels and find something that suits your tastes/price range.
morons will tell you that's the fun part of the game, the risk of losing everything or whatever but in truth it's just a waste of time, especially if you're someone with a job or that has literally anything else going on in their life, this is just going to feel like a waste since you're not progressing with shit.
There's no story, there's no overall rank or anything like that. I guess you can progress to level up your character but that's about it.
>there's no overall rank or anything like that
Yeah there is actually, moron. There are already leaderboards for multiple categories like who is killing the most people, who is getting out with the most loot, and there is an overall section as well. You can break it down by class too.
it's a scoreboard, not progression system.
progression system is when you do something that gives you xp or other shit in order to level up your character
1 year ago
Anonymous
>level up your character
where the frick did you come from? you clearly havn't plkayed the game
1 year ago
Anonymous
not him but i genuinely thin if you want to talk about a game with non-morons you're better off going to /vg/ or /vm/. people's takes on Ganker are just getting worse and worse. it's unironically like the angsty male version of twitter with low IQ posts.
1 year ago
Anonymous
/vg/ is the most cancer-ridden board on Ganker by a longshot and I'd sooner hang myself than willingly go lock myself in the looney bin with the troons that overwhelmingly populate it
1 year ago
Anonymous
your "us vs them" cringe shit is showing. /vg/'s generals are not related to eachother at all, and each thread has its own entirely separate culture.
1 year ago
Anonymous
he's right.
1 year ago
Anonymous
depends on how old the general is, but yeah.
i still think the gay cliques and dramawhoring is ten times better than people being blatantly and easily correctable moronic. i would genuinely take gays and furries over morons anytime
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh so you just want this game to be Diablo/POE but first person with PVP. Leveling your paragon levels or the shitty battlepass or whatever doesn't fit the format of this game, it's more about skill progression than sitting their grinding XP. And frankly I will be shocked if the full release doesn't have some form of those cancerous things anyway.
Starting off sucks but the point is eventually you get some gear that lets you get more gear, to the point you have like 5 sets of it and just bring your second-best stuff each time. I don't know why you'd ever want to bring your best shit unless you're 100% confidant but yeah, it snowballs once you actually have a bit of stuff.
one thing that makes the goblin rape cave hard is that there are fricking doors everywhere, making running to safety super difficult when you frick up.
# Changes
- Fixed an issue where the game could not be played in a virtual machine environment.
- Fixed an issue where audio volume channels were mixed up.
- Fixed an issue where the volume could change when turning on/off the VoIP feature.
- Fixed an issue that could cause several crashes.
- Fixed an inability to attack issue that could occur during ranged attacks.
- Fixed an issue preventing some perks and skills from working properly.
- Fixed an issue where the applied state was not displayed correctly when equipping an item.
- Fixed an issue where the Death Beetle's hitbox was not aligned with the model.
- Fixed an issue where Goblin corpses could end up falling through the floor.
- Fixed an issue where dungeons would not end normally.
- Fixed a place where you could fall off the High Roller Dungeon into the void.
- Fixed an Inferno module that had two overlapping doors.
- Merchants now sell Potion of Protection in limited quantities.
- The Goblin Merchant now sell mystery items for 75 gold instead of 100 gold.
- Goblin health reduced by 10%.
- Goblin Warrior/Archer’s poison damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Archer's slow effect has been removed.
- Goblin Archer's damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Mage's projectile speed has been slightly reduced but it now gives a slow debuff when hit.
- Cave Troll’s damage reduced by 10%.
- Cave Troll now slowly regenerates health.
- One more escape portal has been added to the Goblin Cave.
- Improved the accessibility of the Goblin Town module in the Goblin Caves.
- Ore deposits have been added to more locales in the Crypt dungeons.
- Added and corrected translations.- Reduced the wait time for the tavern to fill up for both Normal and High-Roller dungeons.
>- Fixed an inability to attack issue that could occur during ranged attacks.
this happened to me several times yesterday. caught in the bow animation for drawing back strong, couldn't swap weapons or fire or anything. had to alt-f4 and reconnect
First successful run on this game ever. Took me a couple of hours of dieing to the zone over and over until I finally saw a stone. I guess I know what to look for now.
Haven't seen a single felling axe at the merchant in 5 hours, tired of being forced to play with all those garbage axes.
Whats your go to weapon barbarian bro ?
Go to switch character, select character again. This auto resets Trader inventories. Just keep doing this until you see Felling or just pop into the trade chat and look for a cheap Green Felling with some worthless stat like Knowledge.
Sometimes you gotta exit the game completely if you're unlucky to re-roll shops. Or switch characters and then switch back. It's finicky since it's still doing the Tarkov trader inventory thing for some reason even though I don't think the eco would change that much if you could refresh shops every match.
>try most melee classes >suck, 3 hours to almost escape once >try ranger >escaped through the portal twice in a row
What the frick, you telling me it was even better before?
I guess servers are down? Also, I hope they add anti-poison or adjust the tick rate on the poisons in this game. Shit fricking hurts and it feels like a giant frick you if you ever happen to get hit.
Magic res doesn't do jack shit even with top tier gear. Poison still fricks you. I think making it a slower, longer ticking dot but introducing anti-poison would be pretty cool.
I play a fighter, managed to grab myself 2k gold playing the solo dungeon. The only trouble I have is over-geared barbs and those crazy ass geared super skeletons.
the skellies with the spear and shield are actually not that hard to solo. They'll always do 1-3 attacks depending on proximity so if you run in, hit them once and back off, they'll do their attack and then you'll have an opportunity to hit them 1-3 times depending on your weapon speed as they're resetting.
>hitting people and monster feel like hitting noodles
Its 2023 and indie homosexuals still doesn't know how to not make a floaty weightless piece of shit?
what you want creates cringe balance implications. Hitstun and knock back clearly wasnt part of the balance decisions. You're like a homosexual who complains that combat isnt realistic in a turn based rpg.
>play game not made for you
Black person, that anon gave legitimate criticism to the game
Game could be improved if morons like you will stop sucking game devs dicks
>what you want creates cringe balance implications. Hitstun and knock back clearly wasnt part of the balance decisions
Chivalry combat doesn't feel like hitting noodles and the balancing is just fine
No, I like the game a lot but since day 1 of the previous test, I felt the animations are absolutely dogshit.
All they need to do is make the swings themselves a lot faster, and lengthen the time before/after swing to keep the numbers the same.
The only thing you lose this way is the ability to spasm your mouse in order to hit more targets during your molasses swing.
>inb4 b-but it's supposed to be slow!
oh yeah? then why do skeletons and goblins swing 3 times faster than we do?
>goblins were way too OP
fricking how?
you can actually fight a group of like 3 or 4 of them all by yourself if you're barbarian. you just use rage then scream to scare them away if they get too close and they'll go down in 2~3 if you manage to land headshots
I actually preferred to fight them to skeletons, they died slightly faster. Problem was to many in one room and they wonder around so by the time you clear out the room the match is already half over
They do twice as much damage as skeletons and there are like 10+ per room sometimes, also they are much faster than skellies/zombies too. They were absolutely destroying people in nearly all the solo lobbies I ran today, doesn't surprise me at all they immediately got a balance pass since I'm sure their kill totals far outmatched any other NPCs.
Yeah, it's an excellent Fighter weapon. It has a good mixture of precision stabs and swings, respectable damage, and the parry is a great surprise factor in fights if you can manage to get it off. I like it a lot
I can't really say since I haven't gotten good at actually landing it yet, it's kind of janky (like everything else in this game.) You have to understand what diirections all the weapons people using against you swing and angle your blade to catch them which can be difficult. Once the timings are down though I think it might shit on most other melee weapons due to how slow swings are in general in this game.
Pretty gud all in. Some mechanics do feel a little overdone in the devs intentions to get you behaving in a certain way, such as having a death circle + death timer + limited extract portals to force PvP engagement. The circle just feels like it's there because this is battle royal and that's what battle royal games have. It's excessive. The timer + blue portal limit achieves that end on its own and is distinct too, keep a spring in your step and head towards the middle or risk running out of extracts and being forced into the harder levels, or getting timed out and losing everything.
A lot of other things are just a case of learning the game though to be fair it does very little to explain itself. If you can't see and need to fight, toss a torch on the ground. Combat is all about footwork and angles rather than speed. Figuring out that melee classes are heavily gear reliant and even just buying a weapon will dramatically increase your odds of success vs pure starter gear, whereas casters are more setup/skill based. Feels like a lot of its success currently comes down to how many people are willing to bang their head against the wall of starting, going in solo, and getting instagibbed by geared 3 man's until they figure out to go to the gathering hub and get a 3 man of their own.
I've played barbarian (female), cleric (female), and wizard (male).
So how does voice chat work in this game?
I see there's a setting in the option menu, allowing you to chose between party voice chat and proximity voice chat. So... why would anyone be using proximity voice chat, if that can betray your location?
The push-to-talk button seems kinda janky. It's [B] by default, but the little speaker icon appears next to my character portrait whether I'm holding the button or not. Does it work properly?
I just play cleric and pocket my friends and the game is pretty fun.
Some of the enemies are fricking bullshit though, like the super wraith on 2nd floor that one shots you
it took me less than a fricking minute to find this video. why do people who intentionally keep themselves ignorant feel like they should have an opinion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI1KYT_pTs
it took me less than a fricking minute to find this video. why do people who intentionally keep themselves ignorant feel like they should have an opinion?
everyone has access to the same information you do. if you choose to not look things up you are choosing to be an uninformed moron, and sacrifice your right to complain about things that are already solved.
adapt or die. or shut the frick up
1 year ago
Anonymous
>adapt or die
1 year ago
Anonymous
okay. don't look up any information and keep wondering why you're getting shit on by NPCs. it's only a waste of YOUR time to act moronic
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just remember you’re carried
1 year ago
Anonymous
>everyone has access to the same information you do
you are subconsciously comparing me to yourself
you are a weak homosexual sissy b***h and you will never solo and destroy 3 Black folk teaming up
>it's only a waste of YOUR time to act moronic
This attitude is what killed gaming
Wasting time acting moronic is a way to improve, but when everyone are metagaming games turn into unplayable turd very quickly.
At some point, even metaBlack folk will start whine about "meta" being stale
It's just tiresome.
1 year ago
Anonymous
once again, easily solved issue. >look up meta >do i think this looks fun?
the meta getting 'stale' is a nonissue. either you enjoy it enough to where it doesn't get stale or you rightfully move onto the next game. theres six million good games out there, you're telling me you want to play the same one forever? you're not five years old anymore, the chances of any game capturing your imagination like that is basically zero.
1 year ago
Anonymous
OPTIMIZED GOYSLOP CONSUMPTION ACHIEVED
1 year ago
Anonymous
I have literally never played this game (downloading demo now), but seeing people who like it defend wiki metaBlack folk makes me think it will be a piece of shit.
Discovery is one of the main strengths of games. Skipping it by using the pooled knowledge of others takes a lot away, Maybe multiplayer games are just gay now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
good post
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Maybe multiplayer games are just gay now.
PVP games sure are.
Local coop are good
1 year ago
Anonymous
metaBlack person here
>Discovery is one of the main strengths of games.
in single player games, yes. i completely and 100% agree.
In multiplayer games where your opponents know shit you don't you either level the playing field or just lose. and i don't know about you but dying for ten hours to learn things you could have learned from a ten minute video is a waste of time-- especially in a playtest where the game is only available for a week.
# Changes
- Fixed an issue where the game could not be played in a virtual machine environment.
- Fixed an issue where audio volume channels were mixed up.
- Fixed an issue where the volume could change when turning on/off the VoIP feature.
- Fixed an issue that could cause several crashes.
- Fixed an inability to attack issue that could occur during ranged attacks.
- Fixed an issue preventing some perks and skills from working properly.
- Fixed an issue where the applied state was not displayed correctly when equipping an item.
- Fixed an issue where the Death Beetle's hitbox was not aligned with the model.
- Fixed an issue where Goblin corpses could end up falling through the floor.
- Fixed an issue where dungeons would not end normally.
- Fixed a place where you could fall off the High Roller Dungeon into the void.
- Fixed an Inferno module that had two overlapping doors.
- Merchants now sell Potion of Protection in limited quantities.
- The Goblin Merchant now sell mystery items for 75 gold instead of 100 gold.
- Goblin health reduced by 10%.
- Goblin Warrior/Archer’s poison damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Archer's slow effect has been removed.
- Goblin Archer's damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Mage's projectile speed has been slightly reduced but it now gives a slow debuff when hit.
- Cave Troll’s damage reduced by 10%.
- Cave Troll now slowly regenerates health.
- One more escape portal has been added to the Goblin Cave.
- Improved the accessibility of the Goblin Town module in the Goblin Caves.
- Ore deposits have been added to more locales in the Crypt dungeons.
- Added and corrected translations.- Reduced the wait time for the tavern to fill up for both Normal and High-Roller dungeons.
>anon enjoys something and shares significant info with other enjoyers because nobody else posted it >"must be the work of a shill"
come on homie, at least now we don't need to go on their IRC to find out
People seething because they assumed the solo dungeon would be easy and free gear is already so sweet. Get skilled, go in jacked or not at all, based devs.
>What's the Gankererdict?
factory grade consternated artificially flavored goyslop
Goyslop is, by definition, cheaply made and mass produced to please as many possible for as much profit as possible. Dark and Darker is both free and designed to filter people with its unforgiving jank. Of all the complaints about it goyslop is the most obviously bandwagoning and flavour of the month.
Does armor actually matter? I feel like even with all the AR boosting perks on my fighter in full heavy ass plate i take as much damage as anyone else. Stats are a much better survival stat for the health boost.
Yeah, it definitely makes a difference but high-end gear has a frickton more than the basic stuff so it's not particularly noticeable until you have it. At a certain point it's not worth destroying your movement speed for more armor though since you'll just wind up taking more damage from being slower so balance is key
this experience of stacking armor just makes me think you shouldnt sacrifice any speed whatsoever, its not worth more AR when you can just move 2x as fast.
Fighter has good perks to offset aiming for high AR like Swift or the 10% bonus AR one but yeah, going slow is much more deadly than having low armor this game imo
thats what i mean though, i stacked all the shit to effectively use heavy armor and felt no fricking difference, it must of only been like a 4-5% dr difference.
Speed is important playing solo. Armour is more important once you're geared up with a team. Purple felling axe can one shot naked fighters but takes up to 4 hits on a similarly geared fighter, who will get his own 5 to 6 hits off in that time. More than enough to kill any one.
I think you are just ignorant of how good or bad armor is. Naturally people with good gear live longer, but they have nearly double the health with all the stats. The armor just doesnt increase DR by a significant amount. Fighters should be aiming to use rogue armors instead of plate.
>moron cleric in solo shoots undead damaging bolts at me after trying to disengage from bumrushing me, thinking it's gonna do damage >instead i get healed by 30 hp each time i get hit as i advanced towards him and then i fricking kill the c**t
>a new player panicked and attacked me in a game that does nothing to foster a sense of cooperation, nor even has a mechanic for it mid match except to do "le hands up" emote and try to beg in PTT (doesn't even tell you the PTT key or that it exists) >game doesn't even have the most basic ass barebones system like Tarkov's with the PvP reputation shit >wonders why the game won't even have 8k max players on release
Huh yeah, sure is strange.
>playing cleric >see wizard on the other side of the map >sheathe my weapon and crouch spam >he crouch spams back and comes up >judgement his ass and he goes down in one hit
lmao the joke is I was the wizard
For every positive encounter between people attempting to be friendly there will be ten dirty rat bastards trying to fool you so they can gleefully stab you in the back. And it never gets less funny when I'm that dirty rat.
To be fair anybody that expects a rogue to not backstab them at the first possible chance is literally asking for it. I prefer the cleric for ratting because most people don't expect the man of God who was supposedly standing back to heal you to suddenly cave their skulls in
>block wraith >attack wraith >block wraith >attack wraith >continue for 2 minutes >he randomly gets through my block for no particular reason and I die
Fun!
True, lobbies are already complete PUBstomp blowouts 90% of the time for me and my friends. There seems to be no skill-based matchmaking to speak of, we're all 20 and geared and the vast majority of people we run into have either starter equipment or just maybe some mid-tier stuff leading me to believe they aren't very far progressed. It's fricking over PUBBIES, you're food for the big boys already.
its shit and i dont get the "hype". combat is ass, mobs are shit, pvp is worse than chivalry.
its like shit
>its shit and i dont get the "hype"
it's co-op
>co-op
isn't this a fricking battle royale dungeon game?
Yes, except you can build a party because it's also a co op dungeon crawler
>Yes
Like tarkov where you start together and have to escape together. However, there are actual classes you and your boys can choose from to make for a solid unit.
wake me up when I can just drop in co-op with no pvp battle royale gay shit
whaaat?
and having a good time?
PvEtards not allowed here
Woah now how are the russians and third worlders gonna dogpile you?
>no pvp
this game wouldnt even be fun without the pvp part
if they gave it a story it would
Some of the best moments in a PvPvE game (Hunt for example) are when you don't even run into anyone and you just ratman the whole world, get the shit you wanna get and squirrel out of there.
knowing there are people around is what makes that fun thought.
I suppose that's true yeah.
ofc, because it builds around it.
this
rouges are so funny, sometimes they obliterate you and sometimes they just crumple like wet paper.
Yea I'll be sure to let you know homosexual
just treat players as npcs with moronic inconsistent ai
Welcome to 2023. Battle royale is the new deathmatch, every game must have it. Decreed by law.
so fricking depressing it has to be like this
the last new online pvp game i enjoyed was a quakeclone with an OW skin that died in a few months
i bet if it had a 'royale for the zoomer crowds i could still be enjoying it
I don't want to live in this reality anymore.
it's not a battle royale, dumbass
It absolutely is.
it was hyped up by stupid fricking morons who watch twitch. It was a funny cute meme for a week and now people have moved on, no one gives a frick about this shit anymore.
it just made it to steam charts top ten.
it's being hyped by twitch streamers again though
Coop games are in high demand and people spend so much time with them that they try to find a new one to get their fix once they get bored of older ones so a lot of people jump into the newest thing for fear of missing out. Also this is one of the only types of games in this genre I can think of (FPS melee/magic combat with Tarkov/The Hunt style "progression").
Holy filtered
Holy no-friends post
I watched Dist, Lobos and Ainrun play yesterday and they were having a blast. This game is based and if you can't understand the hyped, you are an incel, plain and simple.
ecelebs are not your friends
>I watched Dist, Lobos and Ainrun play
I fricking knew it. The only way this unfinished shit could generate so much fake hype is by paying big streamers to co-op with other big streamers
none of those people are big I've never even heard of them lmao
dist i guess is distortion, he and lobos are dark souls speedhomosexuals/youtubers
i dunno the other
i still don't know who the frick that is but I don't give a frick about reddit souls shit. Only streamers I know of from twitch around 2017 was forsen, kripp, clint stevens, mitch jones and sodapoppin. I know Soda still streams to this day.
oh shit e-celebs from 2017, lmao why are you still here?
I actually don't post much on Ganker I like Ganker way more, I actually laugh alot there. Covid turned Ganker into shit like that gay talking about e celebs. Also I've been posting here since I was 18 in 2015. I'm not super old.
just know that he is a cuck and he is very fricking clueless 🙂
>from 2017
all those souls streamers have been around since at least 2012, sodapoppin was streaming in 2008 or something.
you are a worthless moron
Haha homosexual you watch other homosexuals play games? Why don't you play them with your actual mates instead?
Anyway,
Game would be amazing if it was primarily like drg but a fantasy dungeon crawler, with this pvp mode as a side thing.
this stupid dipshit thinks anyone knows who these fricking homosexuals are LOLOLOL
pls kys you pathetic fat fricking loser
i hate zoomers so much it's unreal
instead of console wars, they have e-celeb wars
can't believe you got all those genuine replies to this lmao. well played.
>muh eceleb Black folk were enjoying it bro they are really my friends
Get a life homosexual.
who, who and who?
i played it with friends and still thought it was shit
it's just a slow, clunky, obtuse mess
not the game for me
What hype?
There's always a 5/1 ratio between posts and posters itt.
another case of "fun with friends idiot", but this update was so fricking dead that there were only about 90 people on in peak Burger time. Took ages to find matches and it was usually 10/16. I don't know what happened, but I'm guessing streamers forgot that it was coming back during NextFest so maybe the zoomers will populate it by tomorrow.
Servers were bugged, if you switched them and switch back your que times will fix itself. I still get insta ques right now.
>this nich game isnt league of legends big so its dead.
Because it's free and hyped up. See also: Darktide beta vs current Darktide.
>no no no Darktide is a bad unfinished game made by incompetent devs trying to ride on the coat tails of the co-op fad!
At least the Darktide devs have a small chance of making their game good in a year, they (supposedly) made Vermintide 2 (it sure doesn't show though).
The solo dungeon is fricking moronic. I actually think the devs made it overtuned on purpose so they scrap it when the game releases
>Dude, we tried to make a solo mode and no one played it lmao
Other than that it's ok. I like the wizard class. I'll buy it if it's less equal or less than $40 on release
Literally everyone is playing solo dungeon and it's hardly overtuned. I'm walking in as a fresh loadout and extracting 90% of the time as a wizard.
you only think its overtuned because you are solo. the problem with it is that is just boring after a few times and its only like 11 people who are always noobs and instantly die to the AI. the original dungeon is way more fun
Playing a Wizard solo fricking sucks
It's probably the best classe, all you have to do is runaway and turn around to cast a spell every now and then and it's pretty much a garanteed win
What are the perk reqs then? I have the faster casting speed one, I'm not level 5 yet so I only have the one slot.
grind more and become mage god
>3 months ago
yeah I'm sure the game hasn't changed at all since then
I played the two last tests and it didn't change at all lol
skill issue
Garbage gameplay, I don't know how people can play this junk.
i think im kinda burned out on all these playtests, i'll probably play again when the real game launches, but having to start from scratch x1000 is getting old, also solo dungeon is way overtuned, i sat in my cell and waited to see if anyone would escape, and the entire server wiped in minutes
>someone sees a Cleric (me) with a wraith and an skeleton archer tailing them
>their first thought isnt "I should help so we can party up and I can get some of the big loot he was going after"
>their second thought isnt "I should get the frick away so I don't draw agro when he dies"
>its to mindlessly run to the cleric to try and M1 him
>end up M1ing the Wraith in the process and getting both his attention and the archers while the Cleric runs away to a nearby teleport
Actual braindead players, what the frick is wrong with these people?
Don't know. I see it in every game similar to this. The PVPVE genre, that is. I get PVP 70% of the point, but at the same time NO ONE has any ability to analyze when they gain NOTHING from engaging another player. Except just to troll. And honestly that's likely enough for most people. At least Dark Dark you don't get trying to get the run back and then the run back and then the run back and then-
At least dead is dead.
Game does nothing to foster the desire to party up.
Does nothing to explain how to party up or that it's even an option or concept.
Game teaches you that death is deeply punishing and that other players are dangerous.
Game does nothing to teach you how to not get killed by other players, leaving the vast majority to hastily attack whoever they see.
I mean DRG is an absolute clinic on how to make players fundamentally think about and desire cooperation. I wish whatever money these Dumb and Dumber devs get instead went into DRG.
There's no actual incentive to party up, that's by design.
There's only 3-4 exits in the Solo Dungeon. Black folk keep all teaming and sucking each others dicks and then at the last minute realize they can't escape.
But there's an entire system to find vetted randos who won't kill you now. If you need a tutorial to tell you how to use that I think you're mentally moronic tbh.
How is this supposed to work with the fact they put a boss fight on the bottom floor? This entire dungeon is funny in a dumb way, but it's also bad design. I feel like they added it out of pure spite for people who demanded a solo queue.
I dont know what it is but as a Cleric people seem way more likely to bum rush me when I'm solo. Like literally drop everything and chase me half way across the map, doesn't matter if I am standing there fully buffing myself they still come at me half the time
Free games bring the biggest morons
It is not good at all way too difficult what the frick were they thinking
Didn't add shit to this playtest so I'm just waiting until Early Access where there's hopefully some character progression outside of gear.
Just finished levelling up a Cleric. Didn't try him last playtest, and he's pretty fun solo. Decent DPS against mobs, tons of sustain and free heals, and some nice buffs to speed things along. The only downside is he feels really slow. Can't catch people running away, or run away yourself. Still, if you're desperate, you can park your fat ass in a doorway so only 1 member of the 3 man can attack you at once.
post your usernames, lets play co-op
Quarterstaff is pretty slick on barbarian. Fast, relative to the other options, and has an easy swing to smash doors with. Blocking is neat but haven't really tried to use it in combat yet.
Big fan of the war maul's new M2 as well, though I wish the first attack of the combo was a thrust instead of a swing.
Do you have the ability to move gear between characters?
Also damn ranger has trash damage output at the offset
i played three rounds on the last beta. i don't see the appeal unless you play with friends.
Honestly everything is tuned for party play.
Why does the UI have THREE (3) health bars?
where is the third
>character portrait
>vertical green bar
>horizontal green bar
don't forget the dynamic bloody screen
I'm solo only player and don't really know why everyone is throwing a b***hfit
im also a solo player and i play on the full map and am having no trouble getting out and killing 3 mans. it's a skill issue.
any other spear chads itt
>captcha: s0d0m
wtf
whats the point of barbarian
Smash doors and scare wizardcucks
To go beast mode on magic and dex sisssies
What class we rocking fellow type A's
playing solo was better when there were still solo players in the castle
All the solo chads are throat fricking goblins, come join us.
I'm never going back to the castle unless my mates wanna trio.
I unironically find solo castle easier because of the huge size and the abundance of blue portals. If you get into a bad engagement in the cave you can almost never run away because you're bound to aggro something, and unless you camp the staircase exit the final phase is a cluster frick 90% of the time.
Why are people so fricking thirsty for kills in castle.
Literally just had a fully kitted Cleric who was fighting a Wraith just drop everything and try and try to kill me and two other guys, only to promptly get BTFO by the Wraith.
If you're going to gang up on him, then he might as well go down fighting.
When someone starts attacking the Wraith and talking over coms saying "are you friendly?" repeatedly I think your safe not to sperg out and guarantee your death to the the mob all of you were focusing on.
>are you friendly?
pvp game
it's strange to me that Tarkov is a much friendlier game (at least when you're playing as gopniks) than this is right now, even with how the devs are trying things like directional voip and emotes like "I surrender".
I assume people don't really care because lul only beta
I have a similar story
>Be humble, friendly cleric
>I crouch for peace with a beaten up 3 man party
>They as for heals over comms
>I heal everyone with Sanctuary, am then officially recognized as one of the gang
>Help new team fight a wraith
>Suddenly another team enters the fight
>I buff and heal who I can, but I lose track of who's who because the Barb was the only one with a mic
>Bonk a fighter on the head, not sure if it was my guy or their guy, and he falls like a sack of potatoes
>Wizard, not sure if ours or theirs, starts looting the fighter body
>Escort wizard to blue portal
>Steal a portal from a duo trying to kill me
I don't know if I did a good thing, or a bad thing. But I mean, I got a purple frock from it, so that's something.
Why are all the enemies just absolute tanks in the solo dungeon? I tried it out at level 5 on my Ranger with slightly better than starting gear and it was ridiculous how many enemies there are and how much HP they have. I spawned next to two goblin warriors, a goblin archer, and a flying beetle thing and had no chance.
some rooms are nearly unbeatable in that dungeon with basic gear
even when they are beatable you need to pull aggro and fight 1-2 at a time
I was in a solo, where these 3 people decided to talk to each other and clear rooms. I thought that shit was fricking crazy, so I killed 1 of them then injured the other. I am pretty sure all 3 died.
i made the mistake of looking at various steam game demos only to realize this games assets and animations are all store bought shit
>fighter and cleric team slap my shit
>they start fighting wraith
>3 man slaps their shit
>they get picked off by wall spikes and beartraps
>newtard cleric with no experience outside of goblin cave
>get a rogue friend to join me and do the regular dungeon together
>other players all kill each other while we slowly clear out rooms
>escort roguebro to a blue portal, take a nearby red one for myself not knowing what the difference is
>minutes later friend watches as I get torn limb from limb by demon dogs in a floor I had no business being on
I got what I deserved for being dumb but it was still funny.
I played 4 hours of barbarian. Movement and attacking both feel awful. I haven't found anything exciting. I'll go an hour without seeing another player melted by other players and have been largely unable to hit them because everyone is faster than me in movement and attack speed. I just uninstalled.
>pick fighter
>pick 2handed weaps
>hit sprint
gratys enjoy fixed barb
>lose to barb with a felling ax
The felling axe has comically short range.
yeah but its still the best weapon you got, go on youtube and watch some epic twitch streamer barb videos. 19/20 times its going to be them using felling ax
Played 8 hours of barbarian and I fricking love it
>dick ass rogue thief stabbing you?
drink blue potion and swing at him twice, dead - you can tank tens of stabs
>surrounded by enemies?
use scare skill to get them off you in an instant
>can't be fricked to open doors / crates?
just hit them with your axe to break them
barbarian has got such amazing survivability
This garbage is so fricking jank how the frick are you homosexuals shilling this without feeling shame
fun things are fun
I suppose eating dogshit with friends theoritically can be fun too. Yiu got me there
Foot analogy + "its SHIT" = youre eating shit!
Wow, slow down there. Call me a troony next and you will have burned through Gankers entire repertoire then be out of talking points.
You sound like literal troony redditor thought
atmosphere, tension, setting, PvPvE
it's the best dungeon crawling experience I've had in probably a decade with only Barony coming close but that's a very different game
there's no tension at all when matches are 10 minutes long and 90% of that is spent whacking skeletons
>atmosphere
>WOOOOO LET TURN OFF THE BRIGHTNESS AND MAKE EVERYTHING DARK WOOOOO WE CALL IT "ATMOSPHERIC"
>tension
>WOOOOO LET ADD MORE HP AND DMG TO THIS MMO CREATURE AND MAKE WEST PIGS SHIT THEIR PANT SO TENSION
>setting
>WOOOOOO DND gayS IN DUNGEONS. KOREAN INVENTED THIS
>PvPvE
>MY asiatic CLICKS IS BETTER THAN YOUR asiatic CLICKS
different anon here
you're trying too hard. the harder you try to simplify and disparage something, the less I believe you. just say that you don't like the game
>atmosphere, tension, setting
this game has none of those things, this game is for people who have friends to bully solos in greys and nothing more, when new people stop playing this piece of shit gank squads have no one left to bully and they'll go back to tarkov.
you're a solo player who, unlike myself, sucks and got bullied
you never experienced the euphoria that comes from that 200IQ play during which you manage to completely fool a party of 3 and kill them all
you will never be a real solo player
yeah and you do that maybe 1 out of 50 times. Amazing!
you are subconsciously comparing me to yourself
you are a weak homosexual sissy b***h and you will never solo and destroy 3 Black folk teaming up
whats this shit for anyway
you can craft gear with it but it takes forever to get enough for one piece, let alone a set
Any tips for a rogue playing in a group?
Be a flanker or be bait.
>What classes have you played?
barbarian, the best class
uh oh dude, I just hit you with 2 fireballs at your feet and you died XD
i went on a 20 escape spree and must've killed two dozen mages. you have no power here
barbarian seems like that worst class. I don't even know how you're supposed to do anything when your walking speed is that slow and you're not even one shoting wizards
Rage gives a temporary speed buff. With the extra grunt in the engine you can run over anyone like a tank.
for like, what? 7 seconds? best case scenario you get one hit in
Tell that to the bodies I stacked.
>I don't even know how you're supposed to do anything when your walking speed is that slow
step 1, put your weapon away.
step 2. pop rage and run 15% faster
step 3. hit your enemy with a throwing axe and slow them to a walking speed.
>you're not even one shoting wizards
Lol. Lmao even
based barbchad
what do you do against strong enemies like the Centuar? from my experience it's almost impossible to space them with a two-handed weapon without taking significant damage
the frick is this for??
read the thread moron
I think I genuinely enjoyed my kidney stone and a stent up my dick more than playing Dark and Darker.
>he didn't read this short fricking thread before posting
pretty good
Nice attention to detail.
Top 2 solo classes go
fighter and fighter
pvp - wiz, rog/hun
pve - don't care
Barbarian because most people don't want to frick with you because you'll almost always win a direct fight if you know what you're doing. You're essentially the alpha male of the dungeon.
>Discord filled with Rangers tard raging and saying their class is dead because they made arrows fall like rocks in the air.
This is the best playtest so far. Feels good that Rangelets have to actually play the game now and can't just kite people 2 rooms away.
>Fighter
>Zweihander
>Sprint
>Victory Strike
It's "barbarian" time boys who's with me
>newbie first time player
>choked looting a player i ambushed loaded with greens and blues because i took too long to loot and his buttbuddies caught up to me
why isnt there a general?
The kind of people who post on /vg/ can't stand this game.
It's only having 2 week long play tests every 2 months or so, general would die off too quickly. There probably should be one in April when they're supposed gonna do an 'Early Access' release for it though but until then I don't see the point. It won't be on the board long enough to piss people off.
I just installed and tried wizard and it seems impossible, literally nothing dies, isn't this supposed to be the glass cannon? I die ridiculously fast and enemies are made of unbreakable diamonds.
You need to use the spellbook. Magic missile is your best offensive spell.
That's fricking dumb, is it normal that the moment an enemy closes up on me I'm 99% going to die?
Even if I escape with invisibility or haste I'm just going to run into more unkillable enemies because they are literally everywhere so what is the point?
Most spells are either AOE which kills yourself in these cramped caverns or require you to stand still, so if the enemy ever reaches you there is no chance of surviving.
I literally killed 4 shitty weak mobs over the course of 15 "runs" (which lasted less than 2 minutes each).
>equipment
Dude I can't complete a single run.
>people
I die to goblins 9 out of 10 times.
>I die to goblins 9 out of 10 times.
Unironically, as someone who regularly extracts as a solo in the group dungeon, the dedicated solo goblin dungeon is a fricking mess. The layout of the dungeon is pretty good, but the enemy placement is utter trash. It's clear it was very rushed. I think you'll have a better time in the group dungeon as a solo. You don't have to deal with as many enemies at once, and there's more blue portals to go around (though there's less than last time).
yep, I can't move around at all, I just get swarmed and instantly die, breakable obstacles everywhere, and as soon as I haste or invis I run into 3 traps
Yeah you just gotta get over the first hill. Play ratty as frick until you find a Book or Dagger, and then build a safety nest. MM is your best friend, aim for headshots.
They really should make Staffs not 100% fricking useless so beginner Wizard isn't suffering like this but it's the rite of passage every Wizchad must go through.
>That's fricking dumb, is it normal that the moment an enemy closes up on me I'm 99% going to die?
When youre a novice yeah, but once your fingers get good at haste and invis its not a problem since no one can actually get up to you or get more then a swing in before youre miles away or just gone.
Honestly dude maybe play a different class for a bit until you get a better feel for the game. Wizard has the highest learning curve wall in the game and if youre doing solo it may be to hard to even learn.
The last advice I can give you, is that when you die instead of going back to the lobby, spectate other wizards and see what they are doing. Honestly learned quite a bit about the "flow" of wizard just watching some dude soling as wizard when I died on my warrior.
They semi-nerfed Wizard and starting out as Wizard is fricking brutal. It's a lot easier when you ditch the staff though and get perks but until then you can either bash your head in or play another character, get gold, and transfer it to your Wizard with a friend.
Once you get gear though honestly I think they kind of shadowbuffed them.
Crystal sword and staff is not only a meme but gimps your class to a ridiculous degree. Get book or better yet crystal ball and a DAGGER. Then run at people and die 50 times until it clicks and your fingers learn to navigate spells fast. Don't bother wearing any armour that's not giving you int/magic damage being fast is better.
Magic missile invis haste fireball and flame weopen are the good spells. Get into the rotation of Meditateing all the time.
After you do all that you are the best class in the game.
They nerfed Wizard's early/starting game, but gave his late game (IE, a super geared wizard) a bit of a buff. Remember, your offensive spells can headshot. Fireball is your rocket launcher, Magic Missile is your minigun. Haste + invis is your get out of jail free card. The rest are situational.
it sucks
i tried all classes
So if I want to not get mogged by 3 stacks I need to go to the Goblin rape cave? Kind of wish they'd steal the thing from Hunt Showdown where you can just check a box saying put me in the 3 stack lobbies and have an alternate lobby for Solos/Duos.
>Playing Cleric
>Run into a two man, a fighter and a cleric
>Crouch but they don't crouch back, so I keep my distance
>Run into them later, they're fighting a wraith
>The fighter dies
>I jump in and start wailing on the wraith
>Save the Cleric
>A solo Ranger jumps us when we're low, but we manage to escape
>I heal us back to full
>We team up and clear rooms, waiting for the blue portals to spawn
>Eventually we run into that Ranger again
>Has Rangerbrain, and decides his best course of action is to walk into melee range of two clerics with every buff under the sun
>Can't land headshots, so he does zero damage
>Dies instantly to our sticks and clubs
>Is a loot pinata
>We dance on his corpse
>2 blue portals appear right beside each other, and we bid each other a tearful goodbye
See you, space cowboy.
>what the frick do you mean you can run out of purchasable potions
>movement and combat are slow and methodical
>but the fortnite bubble forces you to be fast so there's no strategy possible at all
the worst of both worlds, also it's extremely repetitive
I do wish le epic fortnite bubble wasn't there, let people fricking turtle if they want and be little ratmen whatever.
they said they plan to remove it in place of something better, its just not top priority right now.
That'd be nice, hopefully not too long after the game has an official launch.
I worry eventually becomes never and temporary mechanic becomes permanent. As these things tend to in development of any game. Compromising in the short term usually means settling long term.
How do I play Cleric well?
I want to do a crusader
stack buffs
bonk heads
To quote another Anon:
Skills = Smite and Spell Memory.
Perks = blunt weapon mastery + undead slaying + perseverance + advanced healer (affects your lesser heal spell) or brewmaster if you want to punch people to death.
Spells = Lesser heal (15 hp healed on cast, 20 if you take advanced healer, and you can use it on yourself), Divine strike (+10 weapon damage for 20 seconds), Protection (20 value shield for 20 seconds), Sanctuary (massive healing spell that requires you to stand still, recovers around 60% of your HP), and Bless (I always forget to use it, but it buffs your strength, agility, and will). The spell buffs are pretty self explanatory. Sometimes I use protection for skeleton archers, sometimes not.
PVE is pretty easy with Cleric if you're facing a melee enemy. You can cheese mobs by going underneath them on an incline, holding your shield out, and looking straight up. They'll either miss entirely, or they'll hit your shield. Takes a while to kill them though because you're whacking their legs most of the time. You can also do the "hold shield out and look up" thing without a hill, but it's a bit trickier to get the hang of. I don't always block every time. Looking up and towards the arm that's swinging the weapon seems to help.
PVP is tricky. In 1v1s, you're actually pretty good. If you get your buffs off before a fight starts, you're really tanky and dish out a lot of damage because your mace trajectory. It's really easy to score headshots with it. You can almost always safely facetank Rogues (from the front), Rangers, and Wizards. The mob cheese strat works well against a lot of Barbarian players, too. Most barbarian weapons swing vertically down, so if you hold your shield up, look up, and crouch, more often than not it'll bounce off your shield. Takes practice though, and I'm far from good at it. Then when they miss, you just bop them wherever is closest. It's a really sad, slow death for them.
As for PVP against 2 or 3 people it's pretty hard, though that's to be expected. Most of the time you're kind of fricked if a 3 man sets their sights on you. The few times I miraculously beat a group attacking me, I took advantage of doorways. Most clerics are pretty slow (slow movement speed, slow to open doors), so you're not going to outrun them if they're already close. But if you sit around/in a doorway, typically the only person that can hit you is their frontline. They also can't flank you because there's no way through the door, they'd have to go a long way around. This tactic kind of nullifies their ranged attacks. Of course, if the team has a Cleric, they'll probably just heal through the damage you're doing. And of course, if they're moronic, they'll actually kill each other with friendly fire. You never really know what to expect.
But yeah, doors and narrow paths are your friend. As for weapons just play around with them and see what you like. Maces are slow and clunky, but they get the job done most of the time. They also don't usually get caught on the environment like 2 handed weapons can.
The swarm is your friend, once you get going you really don't need heals except maybe a campfire to regen spells. Really good idea to just run in to the swarm against other players and bait them.
I would say you can switch out judgement with that AOE undead damage thing if you are default gear but judgement is what makes cleric decent at pvp
Most important item on cleric are those tavern drinks, once you get brewmaster always bring 3
Statistically there is no reason not to just camp in your spawn and wait until the fortnite circle pushes you out. Let other people do all the work.
But then the good loot is all gone.
This game is so bad that I bought Hunt: Showdown just to have fun again.
this fricker is why i only play a class with a shield
>zwihander doesn't even do 1/5th of your max hp
poor guy, he probably has no clue just how insanely awful that weapon is.
Is it really that shitty?
I've been enjoying longsword fighter
yeah longsword is godly (decent and enjoyable), zwi not so much.
it isn't, it's just a bit situational, and the guy must have hit his arm or something
also it could be a shitty grey zwei
how long will the beta be?
Yeah I think I made a mistake trying to jump right into Wiz I'm gonna just grugbrain as Fighter for a bit until I learn the game more.
i wouldn't even try to escape as wiz, just pve until you level up and stack your perks
I've tried to but I don't know enough about the map to extract properly considering portals aren't set spawns. Plus the starting gear is kind of dogshit and I get overwhelmed easily.
the big rooms with the 6 skele spawns are good to farm, just jump on a casket
What's your alternative to the ebin bubble?
>Roaming packs of top tier enemies spawn at the edge and go from room to room clearing them of hiding players
>If you can kill them and escape you can get some extra loot but they're way too dangerous to take on without a perfect area setup to fight them
>torches on the walls slowly start dimming and eventually go out
>unnatural darkness seeps in from the corners, spreads slowly from room to room starting at random locations
>no contracting circles but eventually will cover the map
>at first if you stand still in the dark for too long you take damagedie, eventually even when moving
>effects can be negated for some time by using a torch or a campfire, but eventually even those start dimming unnaturally quickly
>can still make short forays into the darkness using torches or magic
>note that during regular hours standing in the dark does not damage or kill, only when the torches start going out on their own, also soundUI cues so that you can still take advantage of low light levels during regular gameplay
>portals more likely to spawn in lighted areas, but can be in darkness as well, emit some light to aid in last second escape, but don't protect from the dark
That's how I'd do it.
Damn that'd be pretty neat and thematic.
expected
>moody coop exploration RPG in the vein of ultima underworld
got
>fortnite extraction shooter
pass
get filtered zoomer
>Tags: Battle Royale, PVP
oh, no thanks.
>first person rougelite dungeon crawler with co-op
Man, this sounds like a fun gam-
>PvPvE Battle Royale
aaaand I lost any interest I had
I don't understand how a game this fricking ugly is using unreal engine, it looks like oblivion with those gaudy graphics mods that make everything look overly saturated and wrong.
>What's the Gankererdict?
If this game continues to get more updates and content I will play forever. Just started today and I'm madly in love. Only gripe is that I wish the dungeons were randomly generated, because it does get tiring seeing the same shit in the same place.
>What classes have you played?
Barbarian. I may not extract every time but I always feel like an absolute unit whether I live or die.
last test there were 3 dungeon layout that would cycle through, not sure if it's the same.. the solo dungeon feels like it's just the one atm
solo has one layout, meanwhile the jail went up from 2 layouts to 6
I uninstalled it after I put five arrows in a skeleton and it didn't die.
Its a jank ass shitty game with shit graphic and shit music
>b-b-b-b-but its better with friend look skeleton clipping to the ground so funny
just throwing shitebms out there
I'm watching them, thank you for posting
This was my favourite one from last cycle.
never trust a rouge
really captures the vibe well, this game is just brutal at a rodent like level
How are you making the webms, Anon?
? shotcut
i'd say about 95% of my pvp engagements just end in me getting fricked by a ranger
Why is the attack feel so weightless and floaty? game feel like some janky indie unity stock from decade ago
think this is where we 'entered' the dungeon
you can escape that way too.
did they get rid of the battle royale ring of death yet?
is it gonna be like left 4 dead and deep rock galactic but d&d styled with some pvp?
Still no but hopefully all the verticality issues with the Solo Dungeon make them reconsider. Shit could happen in B3 sometimes but obviously more people are gonna b***h about it now.
So when is this shit getting an actual announcement date or EA release?
This game have a major design flaw.
The equipment itself, is the major design flaw.
If they design it to be too shitty, then there's no point to collect anything from the dungeon since equipment doesn't matters.
If they design it to be too strong, then players wearing strong armors will just snowballs and new players don't stand a change.
The game is dead before it's even complete.
>If they design it to be too strong, then players wearing strong armors will just snowballs and new players don't stand a change.
fully decked out people will 100% one tap you and feel no pain in a "fair fight" against your greys though. Yet all their purple gear wont save your from a party of naked wizards who opens the door and catches them fighting a skeleton.
Purples are very strong indeed, but the strongest weapon in this game is [circumstance and pure chance]. It simply does not pay to walk into low roller dungeons with purples even if you extract 19/20 times. (you wont)
stupid argument.
might as well claim that equipment is not imbalance because you will still die from doing nothing and let the monsters attack you.
ok it's a stupid argument, now go away
its not really an "argument", its just a statement of fact against your assumption. Purples are very very good, and you do obliterate people without any so its IS strong. Yet due to the way the game plays, it simply doesn't PAY to bring purple gear on every run in the basic dungeon. You lose more then you gain playing that way until you don't have the money to keep bringing purples.
memegame like valheim, only difference is that i got to experience this meme before it died and i cant say i am missing out much
Hey guys, not relevant to the thread, but I saw a trailer of a pirate game yesterday that had an isometric view, like diablo, anyone know the name?
piece of shit steamer FOTM. Combat sucks, ai sucks, pvp sucks, optimization sucks. point and click at enemies like it's 2004 and youre playing morrowing. Korea should stop making games.
game is still trash, it still puts level 1s vs 15+ so you stand 0 chance even with base gear vs base gear due to perks being redic.
mining the ore from the goblin cave seems to help you make money pretty fast but it still... 15 coins for like 5 ore-- At least make it 20 coins.
So, the felling axe for the Barbarian is supposed to be able to 2 shot pretty much every class or at least enemies on headshot and it's faster to recover from landed hits with it but I noticed the range on it seems so much shorter than what you have for the default axe. Also, you don't have combo attacks for it, just one single downwards stroke.
its insane how dogshit wizard feels without a spell book
Game feels slow, clumsy, unresponsive. Game speed needs to be 2x on all animations for it to actually feel good. (Note: I don't care if you're the top of the leaderboard at Snail and Snailer, wow you're the fastest snail).
>Classes
Tried all the classes, really boring and shallow. Devs are too young/slavic to have played Dark Messiah or Nosgoth I guess?
Has the Tarkov thing where gear >>>>>> skill except there isn't even an aiming / fps skill to fall back on
>filtered! filtered!
Yes, the game neither explains itself nor is it in any way designed to be intuitive, while also being pretty clumsy, sloppy, slow, with jank animations and bugs where PvE enemies and players do strange things due to animation bugs in a game that is deliberately slow and clumsy so as to be """"tactical""" or whatever.
Overall it's like a $5 game maybe? Like there a dozen Tarkov games now and this is probably one of the worst out there?
Also if it did become popular, which obviously it won't, the devs will be even less equipped than the Tarkov devs to handle cheating.
>Nosgoth
what a blast from the past
I wish modern game devs had even 10% of the originality but all we get is an endless wave of BR clone after BR clone, the best one being decided by whoever paid the most amount of stream time because they're all pretty much identical.
Yeah that game was great, played it a ton. The skill floor was high enough that you could have fun even as a noob, yet the skill ceiling was also high enough that if you were a good player you could dominate a match.
I was expecting this to be Tarkov + Nosgoth but instead it's just shit.
animation canceling melee into whatever was the other action on the default pounce vampire was kind of braindead ooga, in general the vamps were a bit too oogabooga, but i still remember how any decent lobby the humans would always win
>it won’t become popular
>60k players on the play test
lmfao cope moron
dumb Black person cattle it's entirely all poors, they aren't going to pay $60 or even $20 for this FOTM dogshit meme trash, have a nice day
did you forget 'goyslop'? lmao what has Ganker done to you
The pacing is just completely fricked, it pretends to be this slow tactical thing but matches are extremely short, there's none of that atmosphere you'd expect from a game like this.
Yeah it's really weird. PvE enemies seem deeply overtuned and jank, while PvP enemies pretty much feel like PvE enemies but with variable stats due to gear.
I was expecting some depth to the melee system but there's absolutely none. Mount & Blade PvP styles on this dogshit
stop randomly inviting me to parties, i don't care about playing with u Black folk
stop trying to solo cleric like an autist
i've already done it multiple times and i'll do it again
imagine if there was like no gear and you were always 1:1 power with the lobby
and like when you killed another player, it would like.. respawn you, and there was like... a scoreboard? and if you placed high on the scoreboard the game would reward you
but muh full loot pvp
why the frick can this homosexual run out of cheap potions, no i will not pay 3x as much for a heal that does 20% more healing
>tarkov but fantasy with shit gameplay
Just wait until Notorious releases their Project Honor or whatever the frick it's called.
>LE DEEP SLOW TACTICAL GAME
>get bumrushed 15 seconds into the match by some guy and die
Mhhh, yes this is truly the dungeon crawling experience I want
it's janky skyrim style combat, ranged is too strong because melee weapons require you to be fricking 3cm from the enemy
you shouldn't have to be in an enemies face to hit them with a fricking bardiche
shit game
i came here to see Gankerhitters seethe and i'm not dissapointed
Does it hit the mark or are we still far away from true adventure kino?
there's no adventure at all, you just feel like a rat in a repetitive experiment since the map is so small and matches last 10 minutes
and that's a good thing
elden ring
it's ludo all right, but it goes in raw
Not even remotely close.
Not even close, there's two maps and they're always the same.
Rounds last like 15 minutes or whatever.
You crawl through the map like a loot snail made of jank.
I mean it *could* be; like if the DRG devs made it or something.
It seems jank, and not the good kind. I have a hard time not believing it's just streamer bait.
lmao this game is full of absolute Black folk who ape out when they see you even when they're being gangbanged by goblins
I've tried all the classes but can't keep myself from playing cleric. It's just too comfortable being a healer.
Smite also makes you hit pretty fricking hard
>No random dungeon layout
Seems the bits already exist to slot in different ways. I don't want the crawl to be so samey
Okay that's it I'm gonna try and kill every Black person I see now that I got backstabbed by someone who did the crouch of peach
>playing as squad of 3
>find squad of 2 near the end of the round
>ask us to be friendly over voice, we agree
>when the blue portals spawn tell them they can take them first
>as they're leaving betray and kill them
>fighter asks "why are you like this" as he's dying
>loot a purple shield off his body
trust no one
Wow does that image say homie? That's pretty edgy anon you had better watch yourself.
I'll be honest, I think they shouldn't even wait to finish their quest nonsense, and whatever else, that's supposed to replace the fortnite ring. Literal straight improvement to the game just to remove it as is. It's the most common complaint I hear and the reason everyone I know won't play it.
There's already more than enough incentive not to frick around forever in the corners of the map.
>There's already more than enough incentive not to frick around forever in the corners of the map.
that being?
Limited loot. Limited enemies to farm. Limited exits that will primarily spawn in the center of the map anyway. Hitting the maximum timelimit will instantly kill you. It's super easy to get nothing out of a run just from fricking around as is. I'm betting people will learn FAST they can't just lurk in the edge of the map if they actually want to play the game.
why is it when I don't stash everything in my stash I immediately get the worst luck and when I go starter gear I get the best of luck lol
Also like how solo mode PVE is many times harder than what a team of 3 has to face
Goblin 1 foot long sword, 5 foot long range
Tried it but the combat feels slow and sluggish. Such a shame
Goblin Caves are AIDS I'd rather deal with the 3 stacks
can you still pickpocket in lobby? I can't check myself rn
Pee on Otto.
This game sort of just doesn't know what it wants to be
>Tarkov Dungeons and Dragons with a fortnite storm bubble
>but the money is almost always spent on healing items
>you can wipe entire servers naked if you're running the right strategy and the only thing that might improve your chances is a better weapon as a melee user
>standard dungeon crawler, so throw in pve enemies
>most pathing AI that isn't flying is braindead so make everything twice as spongey as they probably should be
>now let's add a damaging bubble that you can easily outheal because ???????
I guess they got really excited at the idea of being a Diablo looter, Tarkov infil/exfil, Fortnite standoff game, but they just seem to have shipped it out to testing before they could figure out what people even fricking care about? It might as well be the Fortnite aspect, because wiping rooms of players out is the best feeling so far. Getting out with loot doesn't really matter, the enemies are garbage, the castle is small and the same every time, the traps are shown on a fricking minimap, the 'dark and darker' is just an annoying thing pushing you towards the exits so dipshits trying to rat the whole match have to duke it out (or just steal the fricking portal like a normal person).
There's not enough content to know what it's actually going to be. I don't need to have any of this loot or gold, or this moronic leaderboard for that matter. Leveling up is way more important and I still get a lot of XP for dying as long as I take a few rogues and wizards with me. But now I'm just going back in to fight more idiots but I'm at a higher level so there's a better chance that the balance scales in my favor when I wipe out newbies? This game is kind of a mess.
man, that's a lot of assumptions and thinking you put into your post, but you failed to realize the most important thing:
the game is in test phase, a many features will be added and many will likely change, the point of these public test weeks is to experiment and gather data
the devs admitted that even the way the death circle is in currently is a work in progress thing
>it's a test phase
that's kind of what I said in my post and it's not like I haven't seen games pull complete 180s in under a year to make a completely different game. My worry is that I'll be holding my breath for some bullshit I won't care about when it comes out.
so don't do it then, it is pointless to get worked up about things over which we have zero control
honestly, I doubt the AI or the monster's behavior will get much better and I don't think it is a good sign that they gave in to the early access demanding crowd and will make it instead of a full release when it's done
but whatever, there are many other games to play and maybe DnD's success will spark the creation of some other dungeoncrawlers later
it's silly to think the game will fundamentally change this late into development, even the bubble thing is coping since they will have to replace it with effectively the same thing since the entire rest of the game is designed around that
>make the castles way fricking bigger
>darkness still happens, but it isn't just chip damage. Wall lanterns burn out, torches are half as good, new enemies roam in the dark. This means good chunks of areas are more dangerous to explore all around, but would be worth investigating at the risk of not being able to get back to the light
>add fricking quests jesus christ stop whatever you're developing right now and give us some fricking quests you can either get from merchants (Main quests) or straight from the dungeon (side quests)
>bonus points: ape the "scavs" aspect and let people play as little loot goblins halfway through a match and can only play effectively in the dark, but they can escape with a tinier backpack of shit they find
>but the money is almost always spent on healing items
speak for yourself
>the only thing that might improve your chances is a better weapon as a melee user
try playing a fighter with good armor
I kind of wish matches lasted longer, the current matches don't last long enough for a dungeon-delving fantasy.
>Mad trinket loot
>Portal stone was in room above
>Last portal stone was in corridor with a Skelly Champion
Gay ass fortinite bulshit. I want to stop playing this shit game but I cant
>again last portal
>this time everthing went alright
>just me in a room, no enemies, last player
>portal is open about to step in the blue ring
>get killed by some random mage goblin out of nowhere in a room Ive never seen a mage goblin
How am I supposed to play barbarian? I'm slow as frick, I have to run behind everybody and they can just kite me with faster movement and faster weapons which all have the exact same reach any way
I don't get it, it seems like a terrible class
They really need to enable some brackets or some shit if they want this game to survive. It is not fun getting bodied by a guy in full plate and some fricking forcefield 15 seconds into a game
You're so shortsighted, that defeats the entire purpose. If you manage to kill that guy in full plate you can loot all his good shit off him and all you had to do was risk your worthless starter gear.
sorry it was me lol i just found protection potion and attacked you from behind
Is there some sort of level matchmaking, or just grinding out to lvl5/lvl10/lvl15 is an easy advantage?
>matchmaking
Frick no. The whole point of this is to style on newbs then put them off playing so the game dies in a month!
I see
Also second question, why the frick barbarian trait to break doors/locked chests can't break Lion Heart chest?
This and sea of thieves are the biggest fricking monkeys paw games for me.
I just want a fricking co op dungeon crawler, or a co op pirate game. It's all I've wanted since back in the days of eye of the beholder and Sid Meier's pirates.
Nah bro, have your pvpve battle royale or pointless shallow loot grabbing game instead.
Why is deep rock galactic the only decent role-based Co-op game? Why have no other devs capitalised on its success?
At least in SoT I can frick off in to the Devil's Roar and the schizos can't be bothered with me. On the other hand, dead is dead in Dark Dark. So long as I win my fight, I'm assured that person will leave me alone. I get the genre here is PVPVE, meaning PVP is a major feature, but at the same time most people playing these would be better off playing some kind of arena PVP game.
>I just want a fricking co op dungeon crawler
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1465070/Legendary_Tales/
It's VR, but basically Darker and Darker coop dungeon crawler, like exact same game but more diabloish.
VR community shitted on the game due to lack of enemies variery and the price
how the frick am i supposed to land any hits with barbarian face to face when the Black person keeps blocking with shield and back stepping
if i try to just bumrush them head on they can keep up the shield infinitely and block attacks
Anyone killed the cave troll in Goblin lair yet?
fought it twice for shits and gigs, both times it one tapped me
How do you do the thrust attack ? Tried the Zweihander and it was only swing or swing.
tht's a longsword
Oh okay I guess the moveset is weapon specific. Thought every weapon of the same type had the same moveset like Chivalry or Mordhau.
That's the longsword, it also has a parry which is cool too.
">can't jump over a spider" is gonna become the meme of this game
it was the wall spike that got me
but yes i've got stuck on spiders more times than i can count
That spider vase is bullshit, theres literally no way to deal with it without fricking yourself if you dont have throwing weapons. Just avoid it.
I just throw a fireball at it and be done with it. Running in is borderline suicide as the Webm shows.
>He's not playing cleric to just smash them instantly with blunt force
Lol
even if you kill that specific vase there is no escape.
Not even with said cleric's aoe spell?
it goes down in one hit from barbarian, just use the ability to scream enemies away if they get too close then smash that shit in
I can't imagine how long the fight must be. I was already snoozing hard fighting skeleton champions
Yeah, I blew all my spells, 5 fireballs, 5 lightning strikes and 2 magic missiles and it was still standing. Granted I was in base gear.
Why did they design the castle to be easier to solo than the actual solo dungeon? To mock people asking for solo mode?
That's the current schizo theory yes. Goblin Rape Caves are a meme
Is the other dungeon easier? It's my first time playing and I've only tried the goblin lair. Mobs are moronic so it's not really hard but my k/d with player is like 1 kill 5 deaths
The barbarian is so fricking slow it's absurd. Even crossbow guys can shoot and reload multiple time before I reach them
way easier.
The NPC enemies in the castle aren't nearly as numerous or as punishing as the rapegoblins. Getting hit even one time by a gob warrior or archer can take almost any class to half health when you're a poor noob starting out, and they generally come in packs. Not so in the castle, where your primary enemies are slow-moving skeletons and zombies.
Also, how do you get out? Do you have to be the last one every time? I always lose my duel at the end and never get out
blue shrines pop up and port you out.
I've never seen any on the new map and I get to the end almost every time
Use your ears more, they make a distinct rumbling sound when they pop out of the ground. Also they love to pop up on the highest levels of the most awful parts of the dungeon at least in my experience, like in this room
i mean i dunno what to tell you, you can see in the chat log when they spawn. additionally at a certain point you can just walk out the door.
Solo dungeon, we're last two left. Half health, shit gear*, on proximity chat "let's work together Mr. Rogue" nah bum rush me and then die 90 seconds later.
*didn't even loot me just desperately trying to get to safety
Dumbfrick haha.
If people really give me "dont want to fight" body language ill let them leave but no way I trust another man to stand in my personal circle. Any second they can just stand swinging on you and its basically over if they get that many free hits.
its supposed to be challenging. If anything, they are just over tunning it then tunning down until its balanced. Thats how most multiplayer games are balanced nowadays. Over tune the tweek.
i only attempt to friend when there's like 2 players left, and there's 2 more portal spawns
Not a bad first day, game is as fun as before. Feeling mage way more this time.
what a shitty loot omg
pretty good for 4 hours anon. Jealousy is ugly
2 hours scrub.
and im not even selling shit so triple amount of gold
>and im not even selling shit so triple amount of gold
lol suuuure
>and im not even selling shit so triple amount of gold
anon.. all that gear is like 30 gold MAX
>tfw getting solid gear on a guy
>then losing him to seemingly non existent solo dungeon escape stones
>3 times in a row
jesus christ dude do you play this shit 20 hours a day?
didnt count 2 diamonds moron
i have more gold than you
go on, sell them, show us that triple amount
these keks are why i'm here
check this out i was right all along
>enough time b4 reply for 4 more dungeon attemps
>still only has x2 of the supposed x3
Are you getting your ore from the cave or the castle?
Goblin attacks hit you when you're well away from the swing, poisoned on top of it. Love it.
i like soloq more than playing with my friends this game is doa
1 hit left trying to be friendyl in solo dungeon, game randomly makes my character spam attacks, die 1 hit to some spider lol
Biggest issue is how dogshit all the starting gear is. Even just finding a simple white Falchion doubles my damage output and now things actually don't feel like damage sponges
remember to crouch jump anons
God this room is so truly awful to navigate. I feel like at least 50% of the final circle on that map winds up being there and you have to run around in fricking circles to go up levels.
They definitely need to do a pass on the mob HP values. It shouldn't take 4-8 headshots to down a zombie
starter weapons are terrible on purpose and the first tier of stuff you find just above them aren't much better. When you are geared NPCs fall over except in the deepest levels of the dungeon
I finally managed to solo the Troll King with starter gear + 11g grey zweihander AND make it out. Took me at least 10 tries, sometimes the boss would wreck me, other times the circle would be on the other side of the map, and one time some unbelievable c**t gatecrashed and got me killed in the middle of a run. Got 2 blues and a crappy purp shield. Definitely didn't make back the investment in time I spent on this, but the thrill of the kill made it worth it. Still not doing it again. Bonking heads in pvp is a lot more fun.
gj
>Goblin health reduced by 10%.
>Goblin Warrior/Archer’s poison damage has been slightly reduced.
>Goblin Archer's slow effect has been removed.
>Goblin Archer's damage has been slightly reduced.
>Goblin Mage's projectile speed has been slightly reduced but it now gives a slow debuff when hit.
here you go, gays
>Fixed an issue where the Death Beetle's hitbox was not aligned with the model.
This is the big change for me. This shit was annoying as hell.
the critical flaw of the solo dungeon
>9 enter
>3 portals
atm people are dying off fast enough that the final portals are rarely ever contested, but in a day or two when ppl are better and have better gear it can vary easily turn into everyone's alive and whoever gets lucky with the portal spawning on them gets out.
the final portal appears late enough that everyone left will likely fight over, but if it's in an area of multiple elevations; latter remains
i just wasted my entire match being chased around by a skeleton champion
what the frick is wrong with the AI in this game?
it should have stopped following me at some point but it just kept on homing on me everywhere
Didn't your parents ever teach you any manners? Close the door when you leave a room.
>close the door behind me
>champ TADAIMAs right in
>TADAIMA
this game is like asset store shit with the worst ai ever created by man on 10tick servers. which is why i hope literally any company or modders steal the idea and make it better.
mini bosses like skele champ and wraith has some weird(er) ai, they seem to be capable of doing that
The only thing i hate about forced co-op is when your 2 idiots die you basically can't do anything but run and hide.
It stands for any br now, apex has same problem. You just can't win 1vs3 if they are not total morons.
Well good news for you that they are exploring a soloqueue dungeon mode now. 1v3 are possible, although generally through gear difference rather than skill. If you're saying you should be able to 1v3 every time against equally skilled and geared players then I think you might be moronic.
Man, this being a melee-focused game while having gear rarity that is incredibly important for damage numbers/damage reduction just feels bad. It feels like there's little outplay potential playing certain classes.
homie what?
Game is down for some reason, must be server reasons. It has been a janky, laggy piece of shit all day so hopefully they actually fix something.
Wait, I lose everything on death?
Back to my noob gear?
What the frick? How's any semblance of progression possible like this?
What's the point of acquiring better gear if you'll just lose it next time you encounter a gang squad of three players?
You build up wealth in your stash over time. Also it's not really that difficult to get lucky and get your hands on decent mid-tier gear, I went into runs naked a bunch of times today and emerged with a respectable amount of gear only to lose it in another game or two. Getting too attached to a weapon you picked up isn't really a problem once you have enough GP piled up in your stash and you can just go into the trading channels and find something that suits your tastes/price range.
morons will tell you that's the fun part of the game, the risk of losing everything or whatever but in truth it's just a waste of time, especially if you're someone with a job or that has literally anything else going on in their life, this is just going to feel like a waste since you're not progressing with shit.
There's no story, there's no overall rank or anything like that. I guess you can progress to level up your character but that's about it.
>I have a le job and le life
interchangeable phrase that means nothing
people will use this line to excuse not wiping their ass
>there's no overall rank or anything like that
Yeah there is actually, moron. There are already leaderboards for multiple categories like who is killing the most people, who is getting out with the most loot, and there is an overall section as well. You can break it down by class too.
that's a scoreboard, not rank
How is progressing up the leaderboards not a ranking system?
it's a scoreboard, not progression system.
progression system is when you do something that gives you xp or other shit in order to level up your character
>level up your character
where the frick did you come from? you clearly havn't plkayed the game
not him but i genuinely thin if you want to talk about a game with non-morons you're better off going to /vg/ or /vm/. people's takes on Ganker are just getting worse and worse. it's unironically like the angsty male version of twitter with low IQ posts.
/vg/ is the most cancer-ridden board on Ganker by a longshot and I'd sooner hang myself than willingly go lock myself in the looney bin with the troons that overwhelmingly populate it
your "us vs them" cringe shit is showing. /vg/'s generals are not related to eachother at all, and each thread has its own entirely separate culture.
he's right.
depends on how old the general is, but yeah.
i still think the gay cliques and dramawhoring is ten times better than people being blatantly and easily correctable moronic. i would genuinely take gays and furries over morons anytime
Oh so you just want this game to be Diablo/POE but first person with PVP. Leveling your paragon levels or the shitty battlepass or whatever doesn't fit the format of this game, it's more about skill progression than sitting their grinding XP. And frankly I will be shocked if the full release doesn't have some form of those cancerous things anyway.
The gameplay is obtaining the loot, not stashing it bro
Starting off sucks but the point is eventually you get some gear that lets you get more gear, to the point you have like 5 sets of it and just bring your second-best stuff each time. I don't know why you'd ever want to bring your best shit unless you're 100% confidant but yeah, it snowballs once you actually have a bit of stuff.
kill all rangers and mages in soloq, never let them live.
one thing that makes the goblin rape cave hard is that there are fricking doors everywhere, making running to safety super difficult when you frick up.
They just patched.
# Changes
- Fixed an issue where the game could not be played in a virtual machine environment.
- Fixed an issue where audio volume channels were mixed up.
- Fixed an issue where the volume could change when turning on/off the VoIP feature.
- Fixed an issue that could cause several crashes.
- Fixed an inability to attack issue that could occur during ranged attacks.
- Fixed an issue preventing some perks and skills from working properly.
- Fixed an issue where the applied state was not displayed correctly when equipping an item.
- Fixed an issue where the Death Beetle's hitbox was not aligned with the model.
- Fixed an issue where Goblin corpses could end up falling through the floor.
- Fixed an issue where dungeons would not end normally.
- Fixed a place where you could fall off the High Roller Dungeon into the void.
- Fixed an Inferno module that had two overlapping doors.
- Merchants now sell Potion of Protection in limited quantities.
- The Goblin Merchant now sell mystery items for 75 gold instead of 100 gold.
- Goblin health reduced by 10%.
- Goblin Warrior/Archer’s poison damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Archer's slow effect has been removed.
- Goblin Archer's damage has been slightly reduced.
- Goblin Mage's projectile speed has been slightly reduced but it now gives a slow debuff when hit.
- Cave Troll’s damage reduced by 10%.
- Cave Troll now slowly regenerates health.
- One more escape portal has been added to the Goblin Cave.
- Improved the accessibility of the Goblin Town module in the Goblin Caves.
- Ore deposits have been added to more locales in the Crypt dungeons.
- Added and corrected translations.- Reduced the wait time for the tavern to fill up for both Normal and High-Roller dungeons.
>- Fixed an inability to attack issue that could occur during ranged attacks.
this happened to me several times yesterday. caught in the bow animation for drawing back strong, couldn't swap weapons or fire or anything. had to alt-f4 and reconnect
i'll miss fighting 1 other non moron melee to death at the very end of gobbo land now that all the shitty wizards and rangers will live.
sneaky little shit opened that quick
>Gankerirgin millennials are getting filtered by another zoomer game
Kek
First successful run on this game ever. Took me a couple of hours of dieing to the zone over and over until I finally saw a stone. I guess I know what to look for now.
Haven't seen a single felling axe at the merchant in 5 hours, tired of being forced to play with all those garbage axes.
Whats your go to weapon barbarian bro ?
Just go for one handers if you can't find a felling. No one handers either? Go for a walk or have a wank and come back in 20m.
the new quarterstaff is pretty fun,has a nice moveset. bad in hallways but GREAT in big rooms
>quarter staff
>light armour
yup its monk time
Go to switch character, select character again. This auto resets Trader inventories. Just keep doing this until you see Felling or just pop into the trade chat and look for a cheap Green Felling with some worthless stat like Knowledge.
I just tried this. It didn't work.
Sometimes you gotta exit the game completely if you're unlucky to re-roll shops. Or switch characters and then switch back. It's finicky since it's still doing the Tarkov trader inventory thing for some reason even though I don't think the eco would change that much if you could refresh shops every match.
Don't seem to work, I'll try again when the server are up
the stick is best barb weapon
>try most melee classes
>suck, 3 hours to almost escape once
>try ranger
>escaped through the portal twice in a row
What the frick, you telling me it was even better before?
I guess servers are down? Also, I hope they add anti-poison or adjust the tick rate on the poisons in this game. Shit fricking hurts and it feels like a giant frick you if you ever happen to get hit.
poison is magic damage
Magic res doesn't do jack shit even with top tier gear. Poison still fricks you. I think making it a slower, longer ticking dot but introducing anti-poison would be pretty cool.
yeah for another 75~ mins
What class is the guy with the lantern?
seems like a generic fighter.
fighter, speaking of Latern did they change it to just be an explosion now when thrown? i don't see it creating the fire on floor anymore
I play a fighter, managed to grab myself 2k gold playing the solo dungeon. The only trouble I have is over-geared barbs and those crazy ass geared super skeletons.
the skellies with the spear and shield are actually not that hard to solo. They'll always do 1-3 attacks depending on proximity so if you run in, hit them once and back off, they'll do their attack and then you'll have an opportunity to hit them 1-3 times depending on your weapon speed as they're resetting.
Solos is perfect
All the issues are a map balancing matter but all the classes, even Cleric, work in solo just fine
Reddit lost
>hitting people and monster feel like hitting noodles
Its 2023 and indie homosexuals still doesn't know how to not make a floaty weightless piece of shit?
what you want creates cringe balance implications. Hitstun and knock back clearly wasnt part of the balance decisions. You're like a homosexual who complains that combat isnt realistic in a turn based rpg.
>Everything must be clunky piece of shit
Frick off with this trash, you mmo morons disgust me
>play game not made for you
>get mad its not made for you
lol, have a nice day.
>play game not made for you
Black person, that anon gave legitimate criticism to the game
Game could be improved if morons like you will stop sucking game devs dicks
I gave you a reason why your legitimate criticism isn't valid Black person.
>hit skeleton
>blood splash off
That how you knew this trash is low effort early access battle royale trash
>i-i-i-i-i-its multiplayer so it must feel like shit to play
>m-m-m-m-m-muh balance
how many rounds did you play?
10 rounds with my friend, and we both agree the game is clunky as frick
What about all these pvp fps melee combat focused like chivalry, war of the roses? the hits effect feel so fricking good unlike this no budget dogshit
the melee combat is the entire focus of those games.
So is Dark and Darker, just make it feel like i'm actually hit something
>what you want creates cringe balance implications. Hitstun and knock back clearly wasnt part of the balance decisions
Chivalry combat doesn't feel like hitting noodles and the balancing is just fine
No, I like the game a lot but since day 1 of the previous test, I felt the animations are absolutely dogshit.
All they need to do is make the swings themselves a lot faster, and lengthen the time before/after swing to keep the numbers the same.
The only thing you lose this way is the ability to spasm your mouse in order to hit more targets during your molasses swing.
>inb4 b-but it's supposed to be slow!
oh yeah? then why do skeletons and goblins swing 3 times faster than we do?
>oh yeah? then why do skeletons and goblins swing 3 times faster than we do?
Because they're stronger than you homosexual.
Hit the gym.
>then why do skeletons and goblins swing 3 times faster than we do?
they literally do not
I like this game because it feels like old school pure gameplay game.
When is the game up again?
Can you turn up the brightness and contrast like crazy so you don't have to use torches and can actually see?
that's cheating
just do like on tarkov and frick with the gamma to cheat and see through the darkness like everyone else does
its fun
I cannot fricking believe there are homosexuals in this thread right now who are so negative IQ they have trouble with fricking spiders of all mobs.
Server down?
for another 30 mins or so
>goblins were way too OP
fricking how?
you can actually fight a group of like 3 or 4 of them all by yourself if you're barbarian. you just use rage then scream to scare them away if they get too close and they'll go down in 2~3 if you manage to land headshots
I actually preferred to fight them to skeletons, they died slightly faster. Problem was to many in one room and they wonder around so by the time you clear out the room the match is already half over
They do twice as much damage as skeletons and there are like 10+ per room sometimes, also they are much faster than skellies/zombies too. They were absolutely destroying people in nearly all the solo lobbies I ran today, doesn't surprise me at all they immediately got a balance pass since I'm sure their kill totals far outmatched any other NPCs.
looks at his profile picture and you can safely discard his opinion
So supposedly the Longsword can parry. Is it actually a good weapon?
Yeah, it's an excellent Fighter weapon. It has a good mixture of precision stabs and swings, respectable damage, and the parry is a great surprise factor in fights if you can manage to get it off. I like it a lot
Nice. Is the parry timing tight?
Not so much timing as it is aiming.
oh true. sounds hard as frick then, with how the collision works.
I can't really say since I haven't gotten good at actually landing it yet, it's kind of janky (like everything else in this game.) You have to understand what diirections all the weapons people using against you swing and angle your blade to catch them which can be difficult. Once the timings are down though I think it might shit on most other melee weapons due to how slow swings are in general in this game.
Yeah man. Sounds like something worth trying to master.
Pretty gud all in. Some mechanics do feel a little overdone in the devs intentions to get you behaving in a certain way, such as having a death circle + death timer + limited extract portals to force PvP engagement. The circle just feels like it's there because this is battle royal and that's what battle royal games have. It's excessive. The timer + blue portal limit achieves that end on its own and is distinct too, keep a spring in your step and head towards the middle or risk running out of extracts and being forced into the harder levels, or getting timed out and losing everything.
A lot of other things are just a case of learning the game though to be fair it does very little to explain itself. If you can't see and need to fight, toss a torch on the ground. Combat is all about footwork and angles rather than speed. Figuring out that melee classes are heavily gear reliant and even just buying a weapon will dramatically increase your odds of success vs pure starter gear, whereas casters are more setup/skill based. Feels like a lot of its success currently comes down to how many people are willing to bang their head against the wall of starting, going in solo, and getting instagibbed by geared 3 man's until they figure out to go to the gathering hub and get a 3 man of their own.
I've played barbarian (female), cleric (female), and wizard (male).
So how does voice chat work in this game?
I see there's a setting in the option menu, allowing you to chose between party voice chat and proximity voice chat. So... why would anyone be using proximity voice chat, if that can betray your location?
>He doesnt shit talk his enemies to death
never gonna make it when bard gets released
OK, I will use voice chat liberally from now on.
Should I be worried about getting bad due to rough language?
just dont spam Black person and you will be fine
The push-to-talk button seems kinda janky. It's [B] by default, but the little speaker icon appears next to my character portrait whether I'm holding the button or not. Does it work properly?
500mb steam update
Server up i guess?
I just play cleric and pocket my friends and the game is pretty fun.
Some of the enemies are fricking bullshit though, like the super wraith on 2nd floor that one shots you
whoa... it's almost like... an elite or even boss enemy...like a videogame...
Don’t even act like that wraith is killable you smartass homosexual
it took me less than a fricking minute to find this video. why do people who intentionally keep themselves ignorant feel like they should have an opinion?
>shows a video of someone dying to prove the lich can be beaten
fricking lmao, could have at least picked a vid where they killed the lich
>why do people who intentionally keep themselves ignorant feel like they should have an opinion?
Dumbass homie
Are you talking about ghost king?
This thing?
This is an actual boss and has mechanics that have to be done or you die.
I've killed it your just bad.
>looking up a guide
Carried Black person
nice goalposts homosexual, move em back a couple more yards.
everyone has access to the same information you do. if you choose to not look things up you are choosing to be an uninformed moron, and sacrifice your right to complain about things that are already solved.
adapt or die. or shut the frick up
>adapt or die
okay. don't look up any information and keep wondering why you're getting shit on by NPCs. it's only a waste of YOUR time to act moronic
Just remember you’re carried
>everyone has access to the same information you do
>it's only a waste of YOUR time to act moronic
This attitude is what killed gaming
Wasting time acting moronic is a way to improve, but when everyone are metagaming games turn into unplayable turd very quickly.
At some point, even metaBlack folk will start whine about "meta" being stale
It's just tiresome.
once again, easily solved issue.
>look up meta
>do i think this looks fun?
the meta getting 'stale' is a nonissue. either you enjoy it enough to where it doesn't get stale or you rightfully move onto the next game. theres six million good games out there, you're telling me you want to play the same one forever? you're not five years old anymore, the chances of any game capturing your imagination like that is basically zero.
OPTIMIZED GOYSLOP CONSUMPTION ACHIEVED
I have literally never played this game (downloading demo now), but seeing people who like it defend wiki metaBlack folk makes me think it will be a piece of shit.
Discovery is one of the main strengths of games. Skipping it by using the pooled knowledge of others takes a lot away, Maybe multiplayer games are just gay now.
good post
>Maybe multiplayer games are just gay now.
PVP games sure are.
Local coop are good
metaBlack person here
>Discovery is one of the main strengths of games.
in single player games, yes. i completely and 100% agree.
In multiplayer games where your opponents know shit you don't you either level the playing field or just lose. and i don't know about you but dying for ten hours to learn things you could have learned from a ten minute video is a waste of time-- especially in a playtest where the game is only available for a week.
steam patch is ready.
server is up.
I swear this is Dev
>anon enjoys something and shares significant info with other enjoyers because nobody else posted it
>"must be the work of a shill"
come on homie, at least now we don't need to go on their IRC to find out
is this game fun if u dont have any friends to play with
I had some fun with it, but it's the living embodiment of jank
Yes
For free? Absolutely. I wouldn't pay for it though.
Can armor rating go negative, or is it just stays at 0?
Maybe? If you're fully naked you have -10% damage reduction, so possibly it could go lower.
People seething because they assumed the solo dungeon would be easy and free gear is already so sweet. Get skilled, go in jacked or not at all, based devs.
Goyslop is, by definition, cheaply made and mass produced to please as many possible for as much profit as possible. Dark and Darker is both free and designed to filter people with its unforgiving jank. Of all the complaints about it goyslop is the most obviously bandwagoning and flavour of the month.
>used to be male and female you could choose from
>now it's "A" or "B"
I'm starting to understand the appeal of this game.
Ganking people out of invis is the best thing in this game
Invis pots are powerful on a barb
>animation for drinking potion
>doesn't take off the cork first
So close.
>vtuber cancer
have a nice day
hello again friend
just checking if you were still here
>What's the Gankererdict?
factory grade consternated artificially flavored goyslop
Our queen is live.
I feel like i do zero damage compared to some people, like ill land 4 strikes to their head, but i just die in two swings. how to get better
what weapon are you using?
think i was using a green arming sword. Was giga stacked with green-blue plate armor as well, but dude with a spear just 2 tapped my ass.
Does armor actually matter? I feel like even with all the AR boosting perks on my fighter in full heavy ass plate i take as much damage as anyone else. Stats are a much better survival stat for the health boost.
Yeah, it definitely makes a difference but high-end gear has a frickton more than the basic stuff so it's not particularly noticeable until you have it. At a certain point it's not worth destroying your movement speed for more armor though since you'll just wind up taking more damage from being slower so balance is key
this experience of stacking armor just makes me think you shouldnt sacrifice any speed whatsoever, its not worth more AR when you can just move 2x as fast.
Fighter has good perks to offset aiming for high AR like Swift or the 10% bonus AR one but yeah, going slow is much more deadly than having low armor this game imo
thats what i mean though, i stacked all the shit to effectively use heavy armor and felt no fricking difference, it must of only been like a 4-5% dr difference.
Speed is important playing solo. Armour is more important once you're geared up with a team. Purple felling axe can one shot naked fighters but takes up to 4 hits on a similarly geared fighter, who will get his own 5 to 6 hits off in that time. More than enough to kill any one.
I think you are just ignorant of how good or bad armor is. Naturally people with good gear live longer, but they have nearly double the health with all the stats. The armor just doesnt increase DR by a significant amount. Fighters should be aiming to use rogue armors instead of plate.
You can reach 70% DR with low rarity armors, presumably 80% with high rarity.
The protection shrine also gives additive 30% reduction.
how the hell are you reaching 70% dr with low rarity armors?
>26% dr with all that slow plate
What a fricking joke.
Barbarian wearing only gloves and boots is kino
>spawn
>3 goblins instantly aggro as soon as I take one step out of the door
great game
Bullshit, post a clip of it happening.
it's fine, eventually you'll spawn in the same place and experience it yourself, you candy-ass roody-poo
Can you maybe describe which place it is?
So far I had no problem pulling them one at a time on every open spawn point, and concluded you're just bad.
>monsters still freeze when you invis as a rogue
making the skill useless in pve
bro you can move while invis.
no the Rogue skill Hide breaks on movement, it's a much shittier invis than Wizard's
Literally there is a perk that lets you move while hiding based newfriend.
Finally a BR that isn't 30 minutes of nothing only to die in a 10 second fight.
>moron cleric in solo shoots undead damaging bolts at me after trying to disengage from bumrushing me, thinking it's gonna do damage
>instead i get healed by 30 hp each time i get hit as i advanced towards him and then i fricking kill the c**t
>a new player panicked and attacked me in a game that does nothing to foster a sense of cooperation, nor even has a mechanic for it mid match except to do "le hands up" emote and try to beg in PTT (doesn't even tell you the PTT key or that it exists)
>game doesn't even have the most basic ass barebones system like Tarkov's with the PvP reputation shit
>wonders why the game won't even have 8k max players on release
Huh yeah, sure is strange.
What's PTT?
Push To Talk I assume
>playing cleric
>see wizard on the other side of the map
>sheathe my weapon and crouch spam
>he crouch spams back and comes up
>judgement his ass and he goes down in one hit
lmao
the joke is I was the wizard
For every positive encounter between people attempting to be friendly there will be ten dirty rat bastards trying to fool you so they can gleefully stab you in the back. And it never gets less funny when I'm that dirty rat.
literally me
of course I play rogue too
Thank You For Your Loot You Fool
To be fair anybody that expects a rogue to not backstab them at the first possible chance is literally asking for it. I prefer the cleric for ratting because most people don't expect the man of God who was supposedly standing back to heal you to suddenly cave their skulls in
>block wraith
>attack wraith
>block wraith
>attack wraith
>continue for 2 minutes
>he randomly gets through my block for no particular reason and I die
Fun!
I only backstab people to keep the solo players honest.
I'm getting real fricking tired of people with one handed weapon having a bigger range than my two handed axe that takes forever to swing
>check comments
>"mobs 2-3 shot you with poison it's garbage"
>gets defensive when told not to get hit
if you aren't level 20 by now you will never catch up and you might as well quit
True, lobbies are already complete PUBstomp blowouts 90% of the time for me and my friends. There seems to be no skill-based matchmaking to speak of, we're all 20 and geared and the vast majority of people we run into have either starter equipment or just maybe some mid-tier stuff leading me to believe they aren't very far progressed. It's fricking over PUBBIES, you're food for the big boys already.