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>Dark Souls after Anor Londo
i know this is basically beating a deaf horse but I hate bed of chaos so damn much, literally no enjoyment derived from fighting it
>beating a deaf horse
what did you just say?
I beat Dark Souls 1 again a couple days ago and had that sinking feeling when I realized I had to beat BoC again.
I swear I've never beaten that fucker with less than 2 deaths, it's just a time waster.
Look up the bow aim + firebomb strategy, you can just stroll right up to the middle, throw two firebombs to kill the arms and then kill the middle bit with absolutely no danger
Almost beat it first try legit last time I played, but I flubbed the leap of faith at the end (i.e. the worst part).
but bed of chaos is great
especially since it's the only boss I could still easily die to
it has a funny slide though
I have figured out a reliable and easy strat for Bed of Gayos
in case any of you anons want to have it shared with you
Sorry meant to say malenia
Why would you beat a deaf malenia?
For the same reason you'd beat a hearing one.
Not even remotely comparable. Malenia is an entirely optional boss fight and there are countless of solutions how to solve it, so she isn't a 1 solution gimmick fight like bed of chaos. Plus Malenia is actually one of the best, most challenging fights in the entire souls series if you engage with the mechanics properly and don't just cheese her.
yeah malenia is pretty good if you install the sekiro parry mod and play her like it was meant to be played, as the scrapped sekiro DLC asset shoved into a game with little change due to lack of actual boss variation
At least you can abuse equally broken shit for the bosses in ER. BoC is arguably the worst gimmick boss in the entire series.
wish we got the finished version of the original fight
Can only wonder what demon ruins and izalith would be like if they were finished too, fucking sucks because they're some of the coolest areas in the game IMO.
>Bed of Chaos
>You've taken out the two orbs
>The Bed is going crazy
>You stand in front of her, clench your anus, ready your weapons, and say "This is where we separate the men from the boys!"
>Then you die a lot.
>Tomb of Giants
Fun gimmick as long as it's just for one level, also the hardest enemy in the game
The stuff past the BoC fog wall was okay, where you rescue Siegmeyer and stuff
Quality taking a nosedive is a meme
>Tomb of Giants
is kinda lame, but yeah, it doesn't overstay its welcome at least. If you want to you can just run through it in a minute.
is pretty ass, it feels overcrowded with the same enemies, the lava ring gimmick exists for that part of the game and nowhere else and then there's DRAGON ASS VALLEY. BoC is just the cherry on top of that rushed cake to make Izalith perhaps the worst zone in any Souls game. The only one that I dread going through more is probably rapedeer valley or shrine of amana in 2.
Pretty neat, wish it didn't have a mandatory death, especially since chances are you get cursed as well, and that combined with the crystal hollows who hit like a fucking truck can make it pretty painful. But over all fun zone.
I like this zone as a concept/aesthetically, but holy FUCK are the ghosts obnoxious and there's like 50 of them. Add that in with requiring to be cursed or have the consumables to damage them, it's no wonder they never did anything like that for the following games. Four Kings is just a DPS check with a neat but misused arena, why would you have a boss use projectiles when you have 0 depth perception? Also artorias ring gimmick exists solely for this boss.
I didn't feel the need to clarify that most of Izalith is shit, I just wanted to say that small area at the bit is kind of alright and that's the only positive in there
>why would you have a boss use projectiles when you have 0 depth perception?
I think trying to dodge a boss with no depth perception is the entire point of that arena. That's why they are half-sunk floating into the ground so you're not even sure about their size to start with
I like it
Forgot to add
>or have the consumables to damage them
I don't see this as a problem, it's pretty cheap when you're lategame and I think it's a pretty cool gimmick to start with, not to mention the fact that cursing actually has a positive effect
But yeah ghosts are so insane that 50% of the time on my titanite chunk farming route, the ghost in that chapel would get me before I could even loot the last Darkwraith there
>artorias ring gimmick
Yeah taking away a ring slot in a game with only 2 of them is inexcusable
New Londo can be finished before Anor Londo.
Sure, if you're a moron randomly killing NPCs
Racism is so cringe.
only shit area was Izalith, shitting on it is 100% justified
the rest were ok, especially New Londo and Duke Archives
basically, DS1 being bad in the second half is a meme parroted by retards who never played it
AL itself is shit already. One of the first things you encounter is demons that can fly but keep jumping to their deaths due to shit AIs (what a fucking intro to an area) and the overhyped boss battle also has a really bad AI you can explpoit with hiding behind pillars. AL doesn't even LOOK good, honestly. It you try to apply any sense of logic to the architecture it's even painful to look at.
>bad AI you can explpoit with hiding behind pillars
Anon, have you ever wondered why the level designer put pillars in that room in the first place?
>epxloiting the AI by using the intended method to split them apart
Do you really think that makes it better? Displaying their shit AI by making it part of the boss battle?
Chads also choose to purposely not abuse it.
Code Vein for all its shittiness did the O&S fight right. You can use the pillars to avoid long range attacks but you can't stay there for longer than a second or you get clapped
Dark souls has always been about strategy over skills in combat, this philosophy is still continued in Elden Ring, which is why they gave you all sort of consumable and items like summons to break the game. Luring the enemies to fall to their death is the same as doing plunge attack on the asylum Demon instead of fighting him from full HP, or making the Iron Golem fall to its death in its own arena.
Beating the game by using non-combat mechanics has always been in Souls game, only autists prefer doing shit like SL1 broken sword only run, and the game should not ever cater to that mindset
>It's supposed to be badly made and exploitable, that is the soul of the souls!!
All the bosses in ER that are fought inside arenas where they could fall to their death have an invisible wall protection built in that makes it impossible for them to fall off the edge. That pretty much proves that Fromsoft never intended such outcomes as part of their design philosophy for boss fights and that it was always just due to technical limitations and their lack of experience.
iron golem was due to technical limitations?
>Dark Souls 2 throughout the whole thing
>picking up SOtFS later on
What? SoTFs is like what Mario lost levels are to the original. Enemy spam, cheap tricks and other bs.
I liked Dark Souls 2 (and Lost Levels).
not as much as Dark Souls 1 but I liked it.
>Dark Souls posting after 2016
good stuff, I love library levels
>tomb of giants
fun but wow those skeleton beasts are fast
enemy design and placement sucks so much, the area looks cool but the bosses are trash (all 4 of them)
it's still pretty good other than izalith
this. i never understood the people that called this game a masterpiece. i'd agree if the entire game was as good as the first half, but the second half is just fucking hot garbage. tedious, boring, fromsoft copypasting assets all over the place, leaving unfinished sections in the game and horrible bosses that were so bad they even apologized for it. OH MY GAW IT'S SO GOATED YOU GUYS.
he actually changed his shirt lmao
is he lurking here?
OP is an enormous gay as usual
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CHON has come.
DAWN OF THE FINAL DAY
Mega Man Rock and Roll
Someone get the retard moron off the couch
DS1 stops being good after you ring the two bells and it all becomes linear as shit
arguably only Undead Burg&Parish are great, meaning only about 20% of the game lives up to its own hype
Depths and Blightown intended paths are also linear as fuck, only you can meme yourself out of 70% of the progression if you have the master key or know how to get to the back entrance through Duskroot Basin&Valley of the Drakes (which nobody would on first try)
>(which nobody would on first try)
I literally did.
I just wandered around and explored and found the back entrance
>I literally did.
this is a lie unless you picked master key as gift or thief as your starting class
No, I went to darkroot garden, found the side path to the basin, killed the hydra, found the path to the grass crest shield and the bonfire, followed the tunnel to valley of the drakes and went the literal one way I could to find the back entrance.
It's not my fault you don't explore in videogames
>too fucking retarded to find the door for Lower Burg
>copes as "y-you just don't explore" a decade later
it's basically a sequence break as the "rear entrance" is meant to be the shortcut back to Firelink after you ring the bell
From Soft didn't expect people to be somehow retarded enough to miss Lower Burg/Depths but bumblefuck into Valley of the Drakes through Duskroot Basin
It's not a sequence break, it's just good world design. Doesn't change the fact anon was too retarded to find a door kek
I'm not sure, I think it's a case of them literally not having any of their playtesters do that, so they didn't think about the foible caused by the item placement
they clearly positioned the key as a reward for completing Blighttown and finding the exit so you can go back to Firelink, and master key is meant to open this back path early for people that know whats up
but the ass backwards trek from Darkroot to Valley to open up New Londo Ruins before entering Blighttown very much looks to be unintentional
I think it's the case of them giving the player the agency to do whatever he wants. Being able to travel between zone freely is not a mistake.
I don't buy it. If you have any RPG experience at all, you'll see the way you're supposed to go from Firelink to progress and then instead try out every other optional route.
>you didn't go the EXACT SAME ROUTE I did in my first playthrough so you're RETARDED!
I was gonna say "inb4 no u don't idort" but I was too slow
>"nono I totally explorations'd"
larping gays never cease to amaze
I think everybody does that on first try. My og playthrough I had 20 hours in the dungeon with the Skeletons before I realized I was going the wrong way.
>duuuude muh interconnectivity
>it's bad because it's linear
Lost Izalith is bad because it is bad. Archives and Giants Lair are fine, but it is still lame that they each only connect to exactly one other zone.
Archives connects to two zones technically!
I just consider Crystal Cave to be the back half of Archive.
>anime girl reaction image
Bad meme. The quality never decreased, it wasn't that high to begin with so on average the second half was about as good as the first half.
I stopped playing after teleporting back to the beginning after Anor Londo because I didn't know where to go next and I was starting to get bored of the game tbh
Has there even been a bigger quality drop in gaming?
>Dark Souls after Burg and before Anor Londo
Absolutely cucked take. Every post-Lordvessel zone is solid, save for Izalith.
Crystal Cave sucked ass
that entire courtyard before you enter the cave is on the same level of unfinished as Izalith
Crystal Cave was a cool concept but it was hurt a ton by the closure of the official servers.
i felt that Sen's fortress was more annoying than Anor Londo
Game goes down the shitter AT Anor Londo. Sen's Funtress is the very last good segment.
DS3 mogs both DS1 and 2 both in terms of gameplay and level design
All the people that disagree are nostalgiagays and "le old good new bad" gays
DS3 can't walk on its legs for five minutes without making refs to DS1, you actual troglodyte.
>references mean DS1 is better
>omg direct sequel has things from the prior gaem?!?!??!
DS3 is the the only game ever to bring out people too fucking stupid to understand the concept of a sequel
DS3fags ARE the nostalgiafags.
>OMG YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS ARTORIAS YAAAAAAAAAAS ORNSTEIN YES YES YES DARKMOON
>waah Dark Souls sequel has Dark Souls thing in it waaah
once again, only the dumbest of fucks say something like this
Keep being an hypocrite, you fucking retard.
so you don't know what that word means either
literally too fucking stupid for English
You can screech about references to DS1 all you want, DS3 is still a super solid game and honestly more fun to play than DS1.
Which I don't hold against DS1, they had a lot of time to improve on the games.
Eh. It's a lesser Bloodborne with casualized dodge rolls spam. Wish Fromsoft kept the health regain on attacks mechanic in DS3 and ER.
I wouldn't know, I haven't played BB yet.
I was just comparing 3 to 1
The main thing that puts me off replaying DS3 is the linearity. The design of the individual areas is often very good but I wish the world as a whole was less of a straight line. It also feels a bit light a lot of the time and not quite as weighty as DS1 but that's not a massive problem, but you can tell they were really still in the mood for going fast after making BB.
the linearity is a meme, it's only as linear as DS1 is after you ring the 2 bells or the Artorias DLC
DS3 is basically on the same level as DS1 once you get to Sen's Fortress
>it's only as linear as DS1 is after you ring the 2 bells or the Artorias DLC
DS3 is as linear as DS1 after you ring the bells in DS1, and is also just as linear as the Artorias DLC of DS1 which is also linear like DS1 after you ring the bells in DS1 so DS3 is as linear as it is
you understand now, worthless ESL gay Pedro? kys
right, you are a disingenuous gay of the highest fucking magnitude, bordering on outright not having played the fucking game
remove all the zones you need to complete before Sen's, and then fucking chart the game's progression
will you look at that it's all linear levels that end in a bonfire from which you teleport away from
>half the game is linear, compared to a whole game which is linear, so they're EXACTLY the same!
>levels before sens
also it's a png, not a jpg
>dilates about how DS3 is not like DS1, even though DS1 does the same shit
>"THEY'RE NOT LEVELS THEY'RE ZONES"
>"it's not teleportation ITS WARPING REEE"
cope harder gay
>also it's a png, not a jpg
nobody gives a french fuck retard
>"THEY'RE NOT LEVELS THEY'RE ZONES"
>"it's not teleportation ITS WARPING REEE"
never said this
>nobody gives a french fuck retard
then why did you call it a jpg
>but if you REMOVE all the interconnected levels, then you get, uh... you get uh several choices from the hub as to where you go and uh... which is the uh... it's the uh, it's the same as DS3 where you get a choice of... of only two major bosses and it's... it's the same?
crying and touching his little girly penis
>never said this
you (you)'d random parts where the only thing you could possibly dilate about is terminology
and now you are backing down like a little gay after your semantics fail
>then why did you call it a jpg
same reason your mother is a whore despite not recieving any money
>muh choose between non connected linear levels, most of which you teleport to and from
thank you for acquiescing that the interconnectivity is gone
>get a choice of... of only two major bosses
as opposed to 4 bosses, lmao you're such a dumb gay, thanks for proving yet again DS3 is the same
>muh choose between non connected linear levels, most of which you teleport to and from
in half the game rather than the whole game.
>>of only two major bosses
>as opposed to 4 bosses
yes, 2 and 4 are different numbers
>in half the game rather than the whole game.
which is why you shat out your jpeg fellating the whole of DS1, instead of just half of it
kek thank you for agreeing DS3 is like DS1 gay, cheers
lmao, admitting that they're the same besides a small variable
it's a png, not a jpg
>fellating the whole of ds1
yes, half of it is very non-linear, half of it is more linear but still less non-linear than DS3 (two halves make one whole)
>besides a small variable
do you not know how to count?
>mom is not a whore, she doesn't get paid
sad, many such cases
oh yes, you can get to Anor without tolling the two bells and going through Sen's
kek, way to fail at even describing the early parts of the game accurately
you're functionally retarded
>B-BUH MUH NUMBUH
lmao, still the same gay
>you can get to anal without tolling bells
I can choose what order to toll the bells in and go between them without teleporting, and enjoy all the fun locations on the way
my penis (8 inches) is bigger than your clitty (<1 inch) but that is also just a number
>what order to toll the bells
there are exactly 2 orders
>go between them without teleporting
you can't teleport until you get the lordvessel you dumb fuck
>all the fun locations
it's not an open world game either you dumb fuck
there's a couple of paths you can take to Undead Parish and Blighttown
and you can do Four Kings early if you really want to
you sound like you never played the fucking game
lmao the projection is off the charts
>you can't teleport until you get the lordvessel you dumb fuck
yes so the early game is a lot more interconnected, versus in 3 where it's a straight line.
>there's a couple of paths you can take to Undead Parish and Blighttown
>and you can do Four Kings early if you really want to
so you're agreeing with me that it's non-linear and you can do things in the orer you wish to?
>muh early game
so you agree that Dark Souls 1 is as shit as DS3 after you toll the bells gay?
or will you keep dilating about how it's somehow different, even though you have admited it's the same in both games
>so you're agreeing
learn to read gay
you were larping as if DS1 early game was some open world gayry
to which I said it's a choice between path A or B and that it sounds like you haven't played the fucking game
especially when you shit out this
> in the orer you wish
when there are 2 bells, both mandatory and you just spent the last several of your posts crying about the number 2 in relation to DS3
get fucked larper gay
>so you agree that Dark Souls 1 is as shit as DS3 after you toll the bells gay?
well I have a choice of 4 bosses rather than 2 (if I didn't already take advantage of the non-linearity to kill 4skins), and those are different numbers. but that's just half the game.
>A or B
both of which have about 2 routes for getting to them, so in total I have about 4 routes i can choose if I want, which is more than DS3
we are on the internet so even if I was RPing by definition it would not be LARP
>those are different numbers
I knew it, dishonest gay will autistically dilate about the same shit in DS3 the xir makes excuses for DS1
you admitted they're the same yourself you repugnant fanboy, get fucked
nah, fuck you with your backpedalling gay
you were larping as if it was open world "muh choice" shit
only to now admit it's just a couple of linear paths for the early levels
eat shit retard, you played yourself
>not be LARP
lmao, literal autist arguing semantics
nobody cares, you're being insulted for being a loser gay that pretends to have played games when you clearly haven't
>not understanding what numbers are
yes, having more options to get the same result makes something less linear than only having one option to do it.
>larps that it's "open"
>"ackshually it's just 2 different corridors leading to the same place, but MUH NOT LINEAR"
i never said it was open, you're the only one who ever said anything about open world.
i said it's less linear.
>2 different corridors
4 (still a larger number than 2)
>autistically dilate about the number 2
>"BUT MUH 2 BELLS"
kek, repeating yourself won't make you right you dumb gay
>does not understand that 2 is a smaller number than 4
>*if xir keeps dilating about muh numbuh, xir will win argument*
>even though xir already admitted DS1&3 are the same
lmao what level of brainrotted do you have to be to think like this you dumb gay
>does not comprehend that 2 and 4 are different numbers
nice admission of failure gay
>the numbers in these two games are the same
>>no they're not
>wooooow why are you so focused on numbers?
>the numbers in these two games are the same
never said that any point you autistic illiterate gay
this entire time you dilated about muh numbuh
because you're too fucking stupid to comprehend English
larps playing DS1, larps speaking English
it's over anon. i'm going to play DS1 and have a lot of fun choosing between the many early game routes and sequence breaks that allow me to play the game the way i want. I hope you can have as much fun choosing between the Cathedral of the Deep and Catacombs first..... i'll be gone from here on out so if you reply again, well, it'll just be a sad admission you have to have the last word........ goodbye.....
it was a png, not a jpeg
>realization of xir's own retardation hits
>I-I-I-I g-gotta go...
>b-buh pls don't reply I beg you
cry harder gay
>I don't like this area because... annoying!!!! (translation: too difficult)
just read this, no need to read the rest of the posts
They just gave up at this point. I didn't mind the other parts, they were better than blightown at least
what the fuck is with your UI
And yeah, Izalith feels like it was made someone 1 day before release
I grinded in the woods (you know the trick) in DS1 so I could ring the bell and steamroll everything downstairs.
If the game allows you to powerlevel by putting your life on the line, it's a legit form of gameplay.
I mean sure? It's a single player game, if you want to power level then that's your prerogative.
Personally I wouldn't do it unless I'm really struggling
At least that death is more avoidable than oopsie poopsie you got swept into a hole by the model despite taking no damage
But seriously how much of a hurry were they in to approve this dumpster juice boss
Honestly they probably wanted a multi tier, unconventional boss fight, but wasted a ton of dev time trying to make the doomed concept fun.
it did have several phases originally, you would've fought the tree dude normally after he left his throne, but it got cut
iirc his original name was the King of Izalith
Would have been better if the just committed to the gauntlet to start
>Phase 1 is running towards the BoC, avoiding its swiping attacks and pyromancy
>Phase 2 is traveling through its innards, fighting demons inside of it while it spawns fire pillars at spaced out intervals
>Ends like the current fight, killing the deformed, defenseless bug at its core.
see, this is why we quit out instead of walking back to the center, guys
and why we bring flash sweat
Strong first two thirds of the game, end is rushed with good and bad elements.
Weak start, incredibly mixed throughout, mostly saved by fantastic DLC.
Strong start, weak middle, strong ending.
>mostly saved by fantastic DLC.
I still don't get this praise. I thought Dark Souls 2 DLC was really boring or convoluted with the exception of a few really good bosses.
Brume Tower is tedious but I love the dungeon crawling feel of Sunken and the environmental shifting aspect of Ivory.
> fantastic DLC
where did this narrative come from?
they sucked ass, just as much as the rest of the game
Shulva's retarded pillar city, empty block pyramid and dragon butt lake 2
Fume Tower's 10 obnoxious debuff bitches and elevator shit
Loyce's bootleg Anor Londo without any of the cool level design and barren as fuck environments
that's not even mentioning the terrible coop levels, Alonne's fire lizard retard level etc. the complete lack of personality and plot due to the lack of NPCs (only Loyce had 1, and she sucked shit, muh "bring 50 souls" quest)
only decent things in them were the main boss fights: Elana, Sinh, Fume, Alonne and Ivory King
im trans btw
good on you sister
dlc's still suck donkey dick
The bosses were fun and that's the only part of the game that matters
The DLCs were nothing special since the base game was also really good.
>DS1 after Anal Rodeo
>DS2 before DLC
>DS3 before Irithyl
>Elden Ring after Morgott
Bloodborne and Sekiro are the most consistent From games, even if you agree that they do dip slightly at certain points.
even dark root sucks
Dark Souls is great all the way through, with lost izalith arguably being the only place with a questionable dip in quality. even so it's still not that bad. I'd take lost izalith over pretty much the entirety of Dark Souls 2 any day of the week.
Dragon Butt Lake is aids needle infested dumpster of a zone
Demon Ruins is also pretty crappy with reused boss enemy spam, like the 6 Taurus Demons after you kill Ceaseless
Archives Prison and Crystal Cave suck
It's fine except for Lost Izalith
Stop repeating this retarded reddit meme
What's the best randomizer combo for DS1?
Item and fog gates? Enemy rando seems too chaotic
Only Izalith sucks, the rest is a meme.
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