I have never played neither darkest dungeon game, I really only like it because of the sexy plague Doctor 😉
cool, games been out since 2021 I think they've earned a dlc moneys considering 2 years of updates and redesigns of shitty systems initially introduced.
Still doesn't hold a candle to the first game though the last round of updates has done alot to make me enjoy it more.
I wish I had a PC because I want to use the Japanese shadman skins.
https://i.imgur.com/nDFXyv6.jpg
lol
lmao even
They removed Crusader at the hype of woke hysteria, then added him back in as a DLC when ESG funds got closed and woke shit is so tired even leftists like me are over it.
lol
lmao
it's nothing short of a miracle he fucking made it to the game in the first place
at least be happy for that you fucks
literally in the game retard, first fucking sentence >A doctor, researcher and alchemist who prefers to hang back, eating away at HER foes with stacking damage-over-time abilities like toxic clouds & plague-filled grenades.
or any other description >Eager to prove the effectiveness of HER latest untested concoction, she will inject HERself - blindly faithful in its beneficial results.
(don't worry anon, also didn't know because who the fuck cares, changes nothing in game)
how is it obvious nigga and stated by literal who? i dont read le twitter posts about le ebin dev
I thought about plague doctor as a really skinny dude (maybe it's from spending too much time in a laboratory or something) but I really can see someone instantly getting that she is a girl. I think you need to blame the mask and the fact that all plague doctors was male.
Still the best waifu on par with graverobber and musketeer.
cool, games been out since 2021 I think they've earned a dlc moneys considering 2 years of updates and redesigns of shitty systems initially introduced.
Still doesn't hold a candle to the first game though the last round of updates has done alot to make me enjoy it more.
>Still doesn't hold a candle to the first game though
This so hard. I don't know why they bothered making a sequel when the first did everything perfectly.
This.
All they need is to add more content - enemies, biomes, bosses, events.
The original needed more variety to justify its length. Too many bosses are basically just minor reskins of previous bosses.
If they wanted to experiment with new mechanics or widen the scope, they could do so with greater security by building them around the central pillar of the original game's proven systems.
> I think they've earned a dlc moneys
I think they've earned nothing
The only reason I'd even play DD2 is if they added a multiplayer mode, which is nowhere on the agend
Their only plans are to monetize the hell out of an inferior game to the first
>monetise the hell
I found a picture of you op.
game released in 2021 you skitzo, they don't have a 'deluxe edition' or any of the other cancerous modern edition shit holding stuff back.
I just don't got one anon. Not a good one at least. A shitty laptop from 2007 and getting into legit PC gaming is too expensive a starting point for me to justify at the moment.
They removed Crusader at the hype of woke hysteria, then added him back in as a DLC when ESG funds got closed and woke shit is so tired even leftists like me are over it.
Why did you post the post from this very thread as proof the devs said something? I asked for the devs confirming your claim.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
See
How will they explain this? >inb4 they don't and remove it from the ending cutscene
, that's from the ending cutscene
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'll give you one last chance to provide the source of the devs claiming >crusader was removed because canon, he died in the first game
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wasn't even the anon you were asking, I hate you for how much of a disingenuous little rat you've been in this thread
Always trying to "gotcha" like the little rat you are, always asking things in a lying way so you can state >oh, well I actually meant the devs and not the fans defending them, why are you so stupid
You are a trite little midwit who thinks he debate DD2 into not being a shit game
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I just want a source of a claim someone made. I'm not trying to "gotcha" anything.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'm retarded >This is someone else fault
Glad i'm not your parent
it's literally just 1 butthurt shill that DD2 was a flop, so now that they have to monetize the game to hell to make back their development costs, he goes into omega shill mode
Can't just mention it and not post it
This is how you can tell they had a novel idea for a game that they wanted to run with, should have just made a diff game than a DD sequel
My fear is that we are gonna get the same thing as happened with DD1. Everything is curved around assuming the player has all the DLC trinkets and upgrades and you are hosed if you don’t.
>the same thing as happened with DD1
this isnt the same thing, dd1 didnt sell characters outside of the shieldbreaker who definitely is not needed to play the game
no idea why you felt this was a problem with dd1, unless it was something they nerfed later
what the fuck are you talking about DD1 DLC made the game harder, not easier
i would never agree with saying it makes the game straight up harder, theres 1 dlc that does that if youre playing for the first time and the others are free >shieldbreaker and flaggelant were straight up overpowered >shieldbreaker nightmares are a quick grind before you have access to an insanely busted consumable >color of madness is literally free massive bonuses and insane consumable >crimson court added some obstacles which fuck you up at first but make it a lot easier if youre good at managing stuff and got the important things, some of the districts made life a ton easier
The actually ESG hostile part of the Shieldbreaker is probably her backstory as a slave dancer who escaped while being delivered to harem of an evil vizier.
Can't have references to Arabic sexual slavery in tolerant video games.
>female (black) duelist
What a shit dlc all those interesting female roles for a black character and they just add a black man with boobs to cover that role, what a shame, the industry truly has no imagination.
>the industry truly has no imagination
All the people that get hired at these companies are the same woke retards, nobody is hiring well adjusted people that want to make a good game
So it's literally just 2 new characters + associated items and a miniboss....
They can go fuck themselves. That's not real content. The lack off additional features or content proves they still think the base game is okay when it's not
The content is the same. The characters don't really matter when the fucking enemies are all the same. Neither enemies nor heroes are fleshed out enough to make combat enjoyable.
By your logic then you're against them even announcing the DLC in the first place, as anyone who cares would seek it out on their own. My point is stop complaining about literally everything.
Fuck that, Starbreeze is still way worse. Payday 3's post-launch support has been a clown show. At least DD2 didn't launch with basic fucking features integral to the game missing.
No one is buying the DLC for this shit, it's a loss for Hook Nose studios, they'll be lucky if it sells 500 orders
Everyone is still playing the 1st game because the mod scene keeps on making expansions for it
I'm half-convinced that DD1's success was an accident. DD1's DLCs already featured it's worst content gameplay wise, Red Hook was probably always a style over substance studio who caught lightning in the bottle.
>DD1's success was an accident.
of course it was, it was blatantly obvious when Red hook kept nerfing every playstyle in DD1 that even remotely they deemed "too good'
>DD1's success was an accident.
of course it was, it was blatantly obvious when Red hook kept nerfing every playstyle in DD1 that even remotely they deemed "too good'
At this point it is apparent that DD1 was good despite red hook and not because of them.
why else do you think they bundled them together like that?
because if they would have tried to release fencer as a standalone hero in her own dlc, no one would have given a fuck lol
>change unique artstyle into 3d mobile shit >replace town management with subway surfers gameplay >remove/paywall fan favorites
What THE FUCK are they doing?
its the same artstyle and the animations were great. i recently started playing the black reliquary mod and the lack of attack/defend animations is unfortunate. shame that everything else about dd2 sucks dick
It wouldn't be out of character for the game for the new Crusader to be someone taking up his mantle. In fact, aren't people always complaining about how the characters in 2 aren't stock mercenaries who happen to have the same job, allowing you to take more than one?
I guess it'll depend on whether or not the DLC crusader's default name is Reynauld or not.
>didnt they release a patch for dd2 not too long ago that made a lot of qol changes + added the collector in?
They did, alongside adding that Chirurgeon enemy that a kid designed
So why is DD2 a roguelite again? I mean that genuinely, have the devs ever stated specifically why they decided to go that route? What does a roguelite offer that enhances the experiences from 1? It feels like the devs not only misunderstood the appeal of the first game but also completely miss the point of roguelites which only makes me wonder why the fuck they thought it was a good idea to change a working format.
Every good improvement in DD2 has absolutely nothing to do with the roguelite part of the game and would've made the game worth playing if it just stuck to the first games format...
>have the devs ever stated specifically why they decided to go that route?
because its an incredibly popular style of game right now ever since slay the spire. sts didnt start it but it sure as hell popularised it. it fits many types of roguelites but it doesnt fit darkest dungeon
i never understand people who have something special and then decide to turn it into generic slop because thats whats popular
I dunno, no one has given a convincing reason for it yet.
Hero deaths somehow kill a run but also don't matter at all, build diversity and variance is discouraged which is antithetical to a fun RL.
People have been pretending for over a year that Redhook were daring to do something different and break new ground, all they did was try to copy one of the most successful indie formats and failed at it. They also did do in DD1 too but no one cared because it was a side mode, DD2 is literally just Endless Harvest 2.0 All they added to the format was the relationship system (lmao), some extra nodes, and you can't pick what trinkets you take into the run.
>the same boring game
If only DD2 was more similar to DD1, then maybe it wouldn't have such bad reviews on steam...
I don't trust Steam reviews because many were about a boss I beat on its apparently 2nd iteration without much thought, but apparently it got redesigned 2-3 more times after that so maybe they had a point. I also used MAA and HWM who are both shamelessly broken.
The short answer is that they felt that they already made the best game they could make with DD1, so they wanted to try something different, but with similar combat in DD2.
Are you being dense on purpose
By formula I'm talking about the progression of the game which is not only identical to STS but dozens of games with similar progressions that came both before and after STS
Do you mean the map? That's the only thing similar between STS and DD2, the progression systems in them are entirely different.
In STS you unlock new cards and relics by simply playing as that character, and to get to higher difficulties you need to beat the game over and over with that character.
In DD2 you gather candles (metacurrency) that you then spend on upgrading your characters and unlocking new items.
As a roguelite it doesn't work, the campaigns are too long and yet going through just one region is also not long enough to be satisfying for a session.
So you're forced to either play the whole 3 hour thing in one sitting, or try to remember where you left off in a game that punishes mistakes pretty heavily.
Isaac has it right, 45 minute runs are the sweet spot.
I beat it unlike DD since I thought DD was needlessly stupid in nerfing stuff and there were more fun gimmicks in Iratus than in DD like solo unkillable death knight. Also playing as the bad guys was novel. Also unlike DD where I only liked a couple of the character classes I liked almost all of them in Iratus
The tits are good but the animations on everything are awful. Also the game has the same run system as DD2 (which is a bad thing) and the meta is pretty lame.
Also the hottest girls like ghoul and bride are kind of shit.
I assume they were bought by china or something, what with removing blood from flagellant and removing anything that made dd1 any fun (and not adding mod support in yet).
By the time they add it (if), no one will care and because of their new 3d assets no one asked for, no one is going to make good mods for it. DD1 is the better game.
dd1 is an amazing but dead game, discussed to death as well. dd2 is an ongoing shit sequel, why would it not dominate ongoing discussion? And being shit, why would that discussion gloss over it being shit? Literally no one is stopping you from posting the same memes we've all seen 100 times, go ahead.
>people calling DD2 a flop are samefagging
How do DD2fags get this mindbroken?
You sincerely believe "1" (lol) anon calling DD2 a flop is the reason why there are no organic, active DD2 threads on Ganker like there were for DD1? It's the only explanation that makes sense, not because it's a shit dead game no one cares about and has 0 modders and drawfags creating community content for. >"muh DD1 has more content!"
True, and it's also the fundamentally better game. Nobody is going "I fucking hate DD1, but I HAVE to play through all the available DLC and mods because they exist. God I wish I could just play DD2 over and over instead, if only it was designed for that."
>Damn... I wonder why no one is discussion threads or funny meme images for this game (I can't myself because I'm a retarded shill)... I see 1 poster didn't like it and must be behind every negative post in this 200+ reply thread, yeah that's it, I'm a genius...
Now reply "don't engage" to yourself.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay samefag.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
whew good thread, I'm exhausted from being behind other other reply using 100 unique IPs.
DD2 cultural renaissance will surely happen any moment now, and remember to not engage with the haters!
DD2 already released with less heroes than 1, on two different platforms so fans who wanted to play EA would have to buy it on Epic.
I'm not spending money to play the same boring game I already stygian grand slammed but with Crusader and a brown chick who doesn't have a sexy tummy like SB.
DD1 also was greatly involved with the community during its development, making changes and reacting to the shifts in how people play it. With DD2 being Epic exclusive during its early access, they moved the feedback reception from Steam forums to their Discord, and their "sample size" of players was much smaller.
So yes, DD2 being Epic exclusive did negatively impact its development.
As far as I know the only thing redhook did with feedback in regards to DD1 was just make the game harder by adding features nobody asked for to the point where they had to make those features toggleable
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. For fucks sake, retards here are acting like corpses were a feature anybody WANTED when they were first added. The entire fucking reason Death's Door is a thing is because everyone seethed at the idea that your characters instantly died at 0 health.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Corpses were one of the best features added during EA. Death's Door was a major feature advertised for the game during the Kickstarter.
Convinced the devs browse these threads because i've never seen such insanely rabid defenders for such a shitty indie game that very rarely gets threads
Convinced the devs browse these threads because i've never seen such insanely rabid defenders for such a shitty indie game that very rarely gets threads
This isn't really any more scummy than the shieldbreaker DLC for DD1 already was, but the lack of workshop support for the sequel continues to disappoint.
>This isn't really any more scummy than the shieldbreaker DLC
yeah if you ignore the fact that dd2 launched with less content than dd1 including missing classes *including* the fan favourite youre now gonna play for, INCLUDING not one but two classes
totally the same
they are mostly victims of propaganda. Modern politics suck and I feel bad for the poor fools that fall for them on either side. I'm glad I had friends and family to pull me out of that shithole when I was young and impressionable, but not everyone is as lucky.
isn't that the sequel that completely misses the point of the first game and alienates a lot of its existing audience for the sake of not just being an improved version of the first game but something different?
>yeah if you ignore the fact that dd2 launched with less content than dd1
Not replying to you, but this is a blatant lie. It actually launched with more classes than what 1 had initially.
That's probably why I was done with the launch version of DD2 having seen everything in about 30 hours as opposed to the 120+ it took to beat DD1 on release
That's probably because you had no idea what you were doing in DD1; it has a horrific grind if you aren't going out of your way to grab the bank as early as possible and doing 0 torchlight runs with the minimum number of supplies to grab as many heirlooms as possible.
It's not. The roguelike experience is aids, it offers nothing better than what the first game had. The combat system is improved a bit and the graphics are better if you care but that's it. Technically it's less punishing because you lose absolutely nothing when your party dies but that also means that winning feels very hollow
>Nanan I don't hear you crusader was removed because christian imagery is forbidden even though vestal and lepper are still in nanana >Bla bla woke esg shit that was in the first game too >Hurr they brought him back because the game flopped and they need our dollarydoo now despite they the same shit before durr
As usual the loudest Gankerermins only complain about surface level shit that barely matter on how shit the game actually is.
Good straw manning it wasn't because of Christian imagery it was because of crusading imagery that put their panties in a twist, we wouldn't want to upset our widdle moors.
Yes, it's out as a "free DLC"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2119270/Black_Reliquary/
>head artist for the mod can't keep his dick in his pants and the entire mod is full of designs like pic related >also adds a pointless prep round mechanic to waste time in every encounter
It's really impressive as a fan work, but I couldn't get through it.
>the entire mod is full of designs like pic related
only thing in the game that was kind of a surprise is that theres a fucking twink playing support in one of the factions. besides him, and some thick fucking thighs on same barbarian woman, i dont see the issue. perfectly reasonable >pointless prep round mechanic to waste time in every encounter
probably my favourite addition in the mod, makes some skills much more useful. if there would ever be a dd3 it needs to have this
That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
imma be honest I kinda dislike the what I find less serious cartoon look. I really dont like the models. maybe the music would save it for me but I would probably think about installing dd2 mods while playing....
The chibi proportions were kind of an odd decision despite just getting used to it, I guess it was supposed to be reminiscent of medieval tapestries or something. DD1 has amazing music, I think relatively few of the tracks in DD2 compare. These are my favorites from each:
>That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
Why wasn't this in the base game?
>That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
im honestly surprised hes still on the project
is this the longest hes gone without having an ego meltie and ruining an entire project based on nothing but his own autism?
>having an ego meltie and ruining an entire project based on nothing but his own autism?
Didn't he do that to Cloud Meadow, ir was that another guy?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
mhm and a certain tower game before that
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I find people of this type are literally just tools. Use them and milk them for their talent and labor, get as muchbas you can from them, then simply dispose of them by removing them before they can ever bitchfit and sabotage. Lay claim to all their work in the project and keep using it all even if they want it removed, then tell them they deserve it. Isn't thar the most sensible thing to do? Or have I become a bit sociopathic due to my relevant life experiences on the receiving end from such individuals?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
That is a fast-track to those people sticking their rabid fan boys on you like a pack of dogs and getting you cancelled/your entire project boycotted. Just never interact with them in the first place.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
some people argue that artists in general should be treated like this since they tend to be the neurotic type
its naggers like spurple that gives credit to that argument
yes you are right but using and abusing these people is rather hard since how do you tell the diffy when someone has fallen a bit behind on work
or theyre plotting your downfall and just waiting for any kind of negative talk to quit your project and denounce you somehow
also what the other anon said, cult of personality shit ENSURES that they will get work again and air blown up their ass no matter how shitty their actions
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Slumped shoulders, wild eyes, and a stumbling gait - this one is no more good to us.
Maybe I was using the wrong characters but for most of the roster it seemed pointless to take the extremely low odds of landing an attack during prep, I just used their designated buffing move or whichever move was specifically designated to be used during prep and that was that.
Pulpy Conan-esque designs that still manage to work within the game's artstyle are literally the best thing about this mod, you dickless xitterite homosexual.
>mod full of of skimpy-dressed warrior women (by his own admission) >posts a single trap design in the entire mod
Anything you'd like to share, anon?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
the artist is a irredeemable homosexual and has no clue what subtlety means
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon there's no subtlety in Darkest Dungeon. You fight pigmen in the sewers and people go insane from wine being spilled on them.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
The vanilla siren showing a nipple for one second is more erotic than the entirety of s-purple's mods combined
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I believe he meant the "subtlety" in the way one includes erotic themes. It's the difference between something being tantalizing and pornographic, whether or not it looks like it even belongs in the thing you're producing.
You can show a sex scene, for instance, or you can show innuendos, and the latter tends to be sexier more often than not.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Subtlety is gay and so are you.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
you think subtlety is gay because you're a feral subhuman animal that is unable to appreciate the small details
>That's probably why I was done with the launch version of DD2 having seen everything in about 30 hours as opposed to the 120+ it took to beat DD1 on release
Not replying to you (again), but in DD1 you had: >Weald >Cove >Ruins >Farmstead >Court >Darkest Dungeon
Two of those are post-launch DLC, so they can be removed if we're talking release DD1, meaning you only had four locations in the base game. In terms of bosses you had:
Counting the final boss, the base game only had 15 bosses, which got raised to 24 with DLC. And in the base game, you'd see most of these in less than 30 hours if you were playing effectively. And your total heroes in DD1 are 18, with two of those being additions post-launch, meaning you actually started with 16.
Adding up to a total of 6 regions, with one as a minor region - exactly the same as DD1 WITH both DLC. For bosses, you have: >Leviathan >Harvest Child >Librarian >Dreaming General >Death >Exemplar >Shambler >5 Confession bosses
This gives you a total of 12, before you ever add in the post-patch enemies like the Collector, Chirugeon, and this this new Warlord for 15 - the exact same as base DD1. And note that the bosses in 2 are orders of magnitude harder than the ones in the first. If you count every Cultist encounter or the Hero Confessions (both of which are boss-tier encounters/actual bosses in the case of Flagellant's final Hero Confession), then you actually have almost 30 bosses.
For heroes, you had 13 on release so three less than base DD1, but with Crusader and Duelist coming out, the game only has 1 less than base DD1 and 3 less than the game + both DLC. And this is just me ignoring the Altar of Hope or various modifiers like the types of Flame as well as minor locations you can encounter.
In short: DD2 started out with more non-hero release content than DD1 ever had and added even more without ever touching on DLC, with this being the first DLC they've ever released for the game.
My favorite part of the game is how it's filled to the brim with intentionally bad or low tier items that offer nothing but to punish you for trying to get rewards but it's okay because the game is meant to be "hard" haha isn't bad rng fun? Isn't losing because the enemies keep ramping up in difficulty but you get absolute shit items so you're just inherently weaker because there's no other way to ramp up in damage besides items and skill points?
It's funny how we went from being able to have entire threads about just one game to not being able to have a full thread about 2 games plus a full conversion mod due to there being nothing left but vitriol.
>the entire mod is full of designs like pic related
only thing in the game that was kind of a surprise is that theres a fucking twink playing support in one of the factions. besides him, and some thick fucking thighs on same barbarian woman, i dont see the issue. perfectly reasonable >pointless prep round mechanic to waste time in every encounter
probably my favourite addition in the mod, makes some skills much more useful. if there would ever be a dd3 it needs to have this
The prep rounds could just be replaced with automatically-applied buffs at the start of combat and basically nothing would change.
DD2 is pretty fun but I can see why it being a wholly different type of game pissed people off. But I guess thats what you get when you have fucking zoomers infesting Ganker.
>buh buh how are they zoomers?
Only zoomers who haven't been playing video games since the golden age (aka: NES through PS2) don't remember the days of series being wildly different with their sequels. They wanted to provide a new experience, not rehashed shit. Fucking newfags.
a) during the "golden age" sequels were the same but more (doom, homm, descent, fallout), not "wildly different"
b) dd2 is not new, its formula has been done before countless times. dd1 was more unique
c) youre like 20 years old lol
As someone who only played DD2, and can only think of FTL when remembering "Roguelikes" he played (if that qualifies), I had a lot of fun with DD2 but loved its atmosphere but it really was a completely different concept. As one anon here said, variation and adaption is discouraged. you "end-game" build is set from the beginning. it rather plays like a JRPG. I unorincally wished it was longer, had more different settings (think climates and places), and enemy variants...
>I unorincally wished it was longer, had more different settings (think climates and places), and enemy variants...
Well go play the first Darkest Dungeon then
DD1 does not have different climates. Not unless you're talking about mods.
imma be honest I kinda dislike the what I find less serious cartoon look. I really dont like the models. maybe the music would save it for me but I would probably think about installing dd2 mods while playing....
>I unorincally wished it was longer, had more different settings (think climates and places), and enemy variants...
Well go play the first Darkest Dungeon then
>variation and adaption is discouraged
Did they not give players the ability to swap their character paths now on top of already being able to swap skills? I think that adds more variation and adaptation, doesn't it?
I'm left feeling unsure what to do whenever you beat Act 5 for the first time, are you just supposed to play Act 5 over and over after that point? I would even just take a button that puts you on a random act with a random torch modifier.
Less RNG and less off the fly strategic adaptation.
You can swap skills and trinkets within a dungeon, but it's more like accumulating a diverse roster of builds tailored to different roles, regions and encounters.
Very high replayability.
>sequel would've been better off if they had just done the previous game again with more content but the devs didn't want to
How many examples of this are there? Right now I got Darkest Dungeon 2, Age of Wonders 4, Endless Dungeon, and I guess Limbus Company all in my steam library
Please don't call me a shill but I have no idea how people can say that dd1's stick figures look better than this i want to vomit every time I go back to play that game
God he looks so good.
He should have been in from the start instead of the lead devs cringe ass daughter selfinsert.
Runaway is probably the biggest wasted slot in the series.
I would rather want a generic goon on my team than that useless ass ugly bitch
she's kind of broken in position 4 with that character path that adds extra DoT to her ranged attack, I was adding like 8 per turn with her at one point
Strange question I know but.
Should I play 2 first? Considering it's so different and I already know the story I'm wondering if I should save 1 for later.
Their game succeeded because they told their fans to fuck off whenever they complained about the changes they made during early access. The entire documentary about the first game ends on the note of "if you know you have a good idea, stick to your guns."
>told their fans to fuck off whenever they complained about the changes they made
you mean randomly nerf whatever items people liked to use to the point where most items are not worth using (not the dlc ones of course!)?
they are a perfect example of a dev team that just got a masterstroke out of luck and then made every possible shit decision later on
I just want Shindol's Helion with the cute chubby little cheeks kicking ass, because I like things that are cute and cool
If I wanted porn, I can look up pov heart-shaped_pupils rating_explicit on gelbooru and get 126 pages of results, I don't need to turn my good video game in to porn, why would I need to do that? I'm trying to play it.
It's still just as boring since the game fundamentally fails at what made DD1 fun (roster building, team building, base management, dungeon delving) and simultaneously fails to be an engaging Roguelike since the runs take too long and they don't have the right kind of RNG to keep you engaged.
DD2 narrator is called the academic
DD1 was the ancestor
the academic is a benign entity
the ancestor is a piece of shit who did horrible things during his lifetime and manipulated the heir into "cleaning up his mess" so that he can meet the required amount of sacrifices to become a godly entity
the academic is (you)r close personal friend, you basically are taking the role of the ancestor in this game except you're actually trying to fix your mistake instead of reveling in it
I like how contrations are just idiots for the sport. DD1 was an alright one third of a game stretched to 100 hours. DD2 has problems but at least its playable unlike DD1.
Yes
Ganker pretended it didn't exist for like 2 years because it was on Timmy's Fortnite Launcher. They then had a few threads on it for a few months after it hit Steam.
it IS a trend within the industry so his fear is not unfounded
granted none have seemingly happened in this specifically but one must always keep a dim view of the future
dont have such a volatile "holier than thou attitude" or you wont give you any of my updoots homosexual D:<
He's bullshitting you. They haven't said anything regarding Junia other than putting her into the sequel.
Jesus fucking Christ, you know these threads have gone bad when you have a singular samefag blatantly making shit up and retards actually believing it.
>Cash grab game is doing another cash grab
Shocking. There was no reason for a second game at all. There was already too much unnecessary shit in the first game. Once you played a few mid length dungeons you had done all there was to do.
Is this the new fucking meme? Making holy knight lover pay extra? Lord of the Fallen gave you that Dark Crusader class if you bought the deluxe edition.
DD2 gets way less fun once you unlock all the combat/inn items and trinkets. Getting a few of those randomly at the start of the run was nice. Also the game just starts straight up cheating at a certain point. On the last boss run the positive tokens on enemies and negative tokens on heroes are very obviously not what they say they are. 50% dodge for an enemy becomes 75 and 75 becomes 100. For you though 75 becomes 50 and 50 feels more like 20. Shits gay.
You also constantly get negative relationship rolls regardless of how much you buffed positive interaction chance.
that was never confirmed but it was somewhat implied by the helmet and accepted as canon by fans
I'm going to assume it's not the same crusader, but we won't know for sure until whatever his default name is is shown
I wonder if flagellant being absent from the ending implies he's completely past the point of any sort of redemption or if he finally found the death he was seeking.
More likely he was just the last player character added and they didn't bother going back to include him.
as if this game wasn't shit enough
it's nothing short of a miracle he fucking made it to the game in the first place
at least be happy for that you fucks
>a miracle
Or is it merely a trick of the light?
I have never played neither darkest dungeon game, I really only like it because of the sexy plague Doctor 😉
didnt realize plague doctor was female
Well, you're blind. It's been obvious and directly stated for nearly a decade now.
how is it obvious nigga and stated by literal who? i dont read le twitter posts about le ebin dev
literally in the game retard, first fucking sentence
>A doctor, researcher and alchemist who prefers to hang back, eating away at HER foes with stacking damage-over-time abilities like toxic clouds & plague-filled grenades.
or any other description
>Eager to prove the effectiveness of HER latest untested concoction, she will inject HERself - blindly faithful in its beneficial results.
(don't worry anon, also didn't know because who the fuck cares, changes nothing in game)
>""her""
I thought about plague doctor as a really skinny dude (maybe it's from spending too much time in a laboratory or something) but I really can see someone instantly getting that she is a girl. I think you need to blame the mask and the fact that all plague doctors was male.
Still the best waifu on par with graverobber and musketeer.
Damn, this picture was already posted: here is another one.
you can pretty clearly see her tits in the comic dawg
cool, games been out since 2021 I think they've earned a dlc moneys considering 2 years of updates and redesigns of shitty systems initially introduced.
Still doesn't hold a candle to the first game though the last round of updates has done alot to make me enjoy it more.
>Still doesn't hold a candle to the first game though
This so hard. I don't know why they bothered making a sequel when the first did everything perfectly.
They could have released the same exact game with 3D graphics and new classes and it would be a buy. Falling for the roguelike meme destroyed them.
You lost me at 3d graphics.
This.
All they need is to add more content - enemies, biomes, bosses, events.
The original needed more variety to justify its length. Too many bosses are basically just minor reskins of previous bosses.
If they wanted to experiment with new mechanics or widen the scope, they could do so with greater security by building them around the central pillar of the original game's proven systems.
> I think they've earned a dlc moneys
I think they've earned nothing
The only reason I'd even play DD2 is if they added a multiplayer mode, which is nowhere on the agend
Their only plans are to monetize the hell out of an inferior game to the first
>monetise the hell
I found a picture of you op.
game released in 2021 you skitzo, they don't have a 'deluxe edition' or any of the other cancerous modern edition shit holding stuff back.
I shall not reply to you any further.
I hope you buy every shit covered DLC they shovel out, I hope your grovel for it piggy
Don't forget that they took Timmy's exclusivity paycheck
I wish I had a PC because I want to use the Japanese shadman skins.
how the fuck do you not own a pc? are you from vietnam or something?
I just don't got one anon. Not a good one at least. A shitty laptop from 2007 and getting into legit PC gaming is too expensive a starting point for me to justify at the moment.
>Visible eyes
SHIT TASTE
Weebs have absolutely zero standards for artstyle as long as they get group of identical looking women with different hair colour
Fucking sauce? But also is there an option to cover those eyes like
suggests?
They removed Crusader at the hype of woke hysteria, then added him back in as a DLC when ESG funds got closed and woke shit is so tired even leftists like me are over it.
lol
lmao
You are deranged
>cucks months ago: crusader was removed because canon, he died in the first game
>some months later, same cuck:
>crusader was removed because canon, he died in the first game
Can you post the source? I've never seen them say this.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/crusader%20died/
Now go shut the fuck up
Why did you post the post from this very thread as proof the devs said something? I asked for the devs confirming your claim.
See
, that's from the ending cutscene
I'll give you one last chance to provide the source of the devs claiming
>crusader was removed because canon, he died in the first game
I wasn't even the anon you were asking, I hate you for how much of a disingenuous little rat you've been in this thread
Always trying to "gotcha" like the little rat you are, always asking things in a lying way so you can state
>oh, well I actually meant the devs and not the fans defending them, why are you so stupid
You are a trite little midwit who thinks he debate DD2 into not being a shit game
I just want a source of a claim someone made. I'm not trying to "gotcha" anything.
>I'm retarded
>This is someone else fault
Glad i'm not your parent
it's literally just 1 butthurt shill that DD2 was a flop, so now that they have to monetize the game to hell to make back their development costs, he goes into omega shill mode
What does that have to do with woke hysteria though?
They probably just left him as DLC because he is a popular character who people will pay for.
It's always been obvious that she has tits and femininely fitted robe. Also the official origin comic features her without the mask.
Can't just mention it and not post it
This is how you can tell they had a novel idea for a game that they wanted to run with, should have just made a diff game than a DD sequel
My fear is that we are gonna get the same thing as happened with DD1. Everything is curved around assuming the player has all the DLC trinkets and upgrades and you are hosed if you don’t.
>the same thing as happened with DD1
this isnt the same thing, dd1 didnt sell characters outside of the shieldbreaker who definitely is not needed to play the game
what the fuck are you talking about DD1 DLC made the game harder, not easier
no idea why you felt this was a problem with dd1, unless it was something they nerfed later
i would never agree with saying it makes the game straight up harder, theres 1 dlc that does that if youre playing for the first time and the others are free
>shieldbreaker and flaggelant were straight up overpowered
>shieldbreaker nightmares are a quick grind before you have access to an insanely busted consumable
>color of madness is literally free massive bonuses and insane consumable
>crimson court added some obstacles which fuck you up at first but make it a lot easier if youre good at managing stuff and got the important things, some of the districts made life a ton easier
>rapier class
>also reynauld
I'm tired of all the black girlboss characters they keep adding, hook nose studios can suck my cock
>black girlboss characters they keep adding
Such as?
I won't buy your game so don't even try this debate farce
The last ditch effort to save this failed game. And yet I don't even give a shit.
Niggress is literally just an outrage shield and an EGS friendly version of Shieldbreaker, lame.
Can you speak in English, please? I have no idea what you're trying to say.
not him, stop trying to shill your dead garbage game that no one wants, this is literally an ad for a DLC
How is a (most likely) Spanish fencer a more "ESG friendly" version of a disabled Arabic woman?
Exposed skin is verboten.
>Spanish fencer
Lol.
Oh, all you care about is your dick. Never mind.
Shieldbreaker isn't remotely arousing tho, she just looks cool.
I will not buy your game
ah, a cuck
The actually ESG hostile part of the Shieldbreaker is probably her backstory as a slave dancer who escaped while being delivered to harem of an evil vizier.
Can't have references to Arabic sexual slavery in tolerant video games.
>ooh, another brown woman that's covered up, acts like a man, yum yum
Not buying your DLC, Not buying your game
>female (black) duelist
What a shit dlc all those interesting female roles for a black character and they just add a black man with boobs to cover that role, what a shame, the industry truly has no imagination.
>the industry truly has no imagination
All the people that get hired at these companies are the same woke retards, nobody is hiring well adjusted people that want to make a good game
So it's literally just 2 new characters + associated items and a miniboss....
They can go fuck themselves. That's not real content. The lack off additional features or content proves they still think the base game is okay when it's not
New class are one of the two biggest additions that could be added. The other being new zones.
The content is the same. The characters don't really matter when the fucking enemies are all the same. Neither enemies nor heroes are fleshed out enough to make combat enjoyable.
You're stupid but in a funny way. Here's a (You).
>no argument
I accept your concession
> WISHLIST NAO
Why every dev so obsessed with it? Are they get money for clicks?
>Why do people advertise their products?
I mean, if you like a game you will add it without constant reminders.
By your logic then you're against them even announcing the DLC in the first place, as anyone who cares would seek it out on their own. My point is stop complaining about literally everything.
> complaining
When will you homosexuals stop seeing "complaints" everywhere? It was simple question.
>why do people advertise, people just buy it if they like it bro
Ganker is amazing
If the announcement is interesting enough, you don't need to ask them to wishlist it, they will do it themselves.
Cold hard data says that product descriptions that have that phrase sell more copies than those products that don't.
There is a top of wishlisted games on Steam, if you get there, it's free advertisement
why did they add a new black woman instead of the arbalest or the shieldbreaker?
can these losers stop copying dark souls?
>Starbreeze at a shitting away years of goodwill contest when Red Hook walks in
It was obvious that Red Hook was going downhill when you watch the developer PR videos they put out and it's all fat women with multicolored hair
Fuck that, Starbreeze is still way worse. Payday 3's post-launch support has been a clown show. At least DD2 didn't launch with basic fucking features integral to the game missing.
>Crusader is back
>but new female hero is black
Chudbros...is this a win or loss for us DEVS VULT ?
No one is buying the DLC for this shit, it's a loss for Hook Nose studios, they'll be lucky if it sells 500 orders
Everyone is still playing the 1st game because the mod scene keeps on making expansions for it
I'm half-convinced that DD1's success was an accident. DD1's DLCs already featured it's worst content gameplay wise, Red Hook was probably always a style over substance studio who caught lightning in the bottle.
>DD1's success was an accident.
of course it was, it was blatantly obvious when Red hook kept nerfing every playstyle in DD1 that even remotely they deemed "too good'
At this point it is apparent that DD1 was good despite red hook and not because of them.
This is the real answer.
We could've had so much more.
It's only a win of she's Crusaders bottom
why else do you think they bundled them together like that?
because if they would have tried to release fencer as a standalone hero in her own dlc, no one would have given a fuck lol
>change unique artstyle into 3d mobile shit
>replace town management with subway surfers gameplay
>remove/paywall fan favorites
What THE FUCK are they doing?
Its not like they knew what they were doing with 1, they constantly "balanced" the game to make it less fun throughout its life cycle.
But DD1 is more fun now than it was in 2015. Back then all you had to do was have two Leper in ranks 1 and 2 and you won the game.
you mean, they made it so you couldn't clear all your stress every battle with infinite delay? good.
DD1 was a fluke
Yup, lightning in a bottle.
Either Redhook never understood why DD worked, or the talent that did understand left long ago.
Art style didn't change and the 3d models are better than the tween shit.
Rest of that is spot on though.
its the same artstyle and the animations were great. i recently started playing the black reliquary mod and the lack of attack/defend animations is unfortunate. shame that everything else about dd2 sucks dick
How will they explain this?
>inb4 they don't and remove it from the ending cutscene
The game is a character's memories and memory is faulty.
It wouldn't be out of character for the game for the new Crusader to be someone taking up his mantle. In fact, aren't people always complaining about how the characters in 2 aren't stock mercenaries who happen to have the same job, allowing you to take more than one?
I guess it'll depend on whether or not the DLC crusader's default name is Reynauld or not.
>see DD2 release
>"slay the spire" map shite
>go back to playing DD1 with mods
It's sad because STS is a really good roguelike and they are clearly copying elements from it but have no clue why those elements work.
What mods would you recommend? I've only ever played vanilla
>playing both DD1 and DD2
I thought Reynauld was fucking kill?
Did they retcon it?
Also the combat in DD2 is better than 1's now and it's not even close.
Remember when people were coping saying he would never get in because religion?
I don't even know how anyone could think that in the first place. Leper, Vestal, and Flagman are all part of the same religion and were added.
The devs are only adding it because the game bombed, just a few months ago a DLC came out and literally no one even noticed or cared about.
As far as i'm concerned they can fuck off and take their shit mobile looking game with afflic warlock vs afflic warlock combat with them.
This is the first DLC.
>just a few months ago a DLC came out and literally no one even noticed or cared about.
Huh? This is the first DD2 DLC
i think he means "patch," not dlc
didnt they release a patch for dd2 not too long ago that made a lot of qol changes + added the collector in?
Yes. As you said, a patch and not dlc.
Stop being autistic and write normally, you type like you have a giant dildo up your ass and you want everyone to know it
If being correct makes me autistic then so be it.
patches correct bugs, they dont add features.
although dishonest devs do that, they "patch" things they didn't add to the game on release
>a patch isn't a DLC guys!
Bro, you shills are terrible
Hey buddy, you just roll in from stupidtown?
>didnt they release a patch for dd2 not too long ago that made a lot of qol changes + added the collector in?
They did, alongside adding that Chirurgeon enemy that a kid designed
Don't bother, they are shills that will just say you're moving the goalposts by defending him
Oh yeah, because selling him as a DLC is so much better?
>take away content
>make you purchase it
Kek
So why is DD2 a roguelite again? I mean that genuinely, have the devs ever stated specifically why they decided to go that route? What does a roguelite offer that enhances the experiences from 1? It feels like the devs not only misunderstood the appeal of the first game but also completely miss the point of roguelites which only makes me wonder why the fuck they thought it was a good idea to change a working format.
Every good improvement in DD2 has absolutely nothing to do with the roguelite part of the game and would've made the game worth playing if it just stuck to the first games format...
>have the devs ever stated specifically why they decided to go that route?
because its an incredibly popular style of game right now ever since slay the spire. sts didnt start it but it sure as hell popularised it. it fits many types of roguelites but it doesnt fit darkest dungeon
i never understand people who have something special and then decide to turn it into generic slop because thats whats popular
I dunno, no one has given a convincing reason for it yet.
Hero deaths somehow kill a run but also don't matter at all, build diversity and variance is discouraged which is antithetical to a fun RL.
People have been pretending for over a year that Redhook were daring to do something different and break new ground, all they did was try to copy one of the most successful indie formats and failed at it. They also did do in DD1 too but no one cared because it was a side mode, DD2 is literally just Endless Harvest 2.0 All they added to the format was the relationship system (lmao), some extra nodes, and you can't pick what trinkets you take into the run.
I don't trust Steam reviews because many were about a boss I beat on its apparently 2nd iteration without much thought, but apparently it got redesigned 2-3 more times after that so maybe they had a point. I also used MAA and HWM who are both shamelessly broken.
The short answer is that they felt that they already made the best game they could make with DD1, so they wanted to try something different, but with similar combat in DD2.
i hope when devs wanna try out something different they try out something actually different instead of copying the formula thats popular right now
>copying the formula
DD2 plays nothing like STS, which is a literal card game. It's closer to fucking Oregon Trail, which still isn't a good fit.
Are you being dense on purpose
By formula I'm talking about the progression of the game which is not only identical to STS but dozens of games with similar progressions that came both before and after STS
Do you mean the map? That's the only thing similar between STS and DD2, the progression systems in them are entirely different.
In STS you unlock new cards and relics by simply playing as that character, and to get to higher difficulties you need to beat the game over and over with that character.
In DD2 you gather candles (metacurrency) that you then spend on upgrading your characters and unlocking new items.
As a roguelite it doesn't work, the campaigns are too long and yet going through just one region is also not long enough to be satisfying for a session.
So you're forced to either play the whole 3 hour thing in one sitting, or try to remember where you left off in a game that punishes mistakes pretty heavily.
Isaac has it right, 45 minute runs are the sweet spot.
>Uhhh, Crusader died in DD1, DD2 confirmed this.
You fools think death can stop righteous faith?
Only a paywall can.
>Kleptomanic fuck being stopped by nothing but a paywall
Yeah, it checks out.
>Iratus 2 confirmation
>Crusader in DD2
Life is good.
im surprised iratus its not more popular on Ganker, its full of tits
>Ganker is gay
Are you really surprised?
Looks like someone mashed the aesthetics of a western porn game with the undead horde/legions of the damned from Disciples II.
its art style is ugly as sin and I dont think tits are gonna save that
I personally like it more than DD though
I beat it unlike DD since I thought DD was needlessly stupid in nerfing stuff and there were more fun gimmicks in Iratus than in DD like solo unkillable death knight. Also playing as the bad guys was novel. Also unlike DD where I only liked a couple of the character classes I liked almost all of them in Iratus
Forgot to say I got it when it was free on GoG and I've had way more fun with it than DD
The tits are good but the animations on everything are awful. Also the game has the same run system as DD2 (which is a bad thing) and the meta is pretty lame.
Also the hottest girls like ghoul and bride are kind of shit.
Pulling a mortal kombat huh
How does a developer misfire a sequel this hard?
Big studios I understand because of upper management and CEO meddling, but this? Christ.
I assume they were bought by china or something, what with removing blood from flagellant and removing anything that made dd1 any fun (and not adding mod support in yet).
By the time they add it (if), no one will care and because of their new 3d assets no one asked for, no one is going to make good mods for it. DD1 is the better game.
>dd threads used to be fun with the best memes
>now a few shitposters ruin any possible discussion at every given opportunity
Sequels that make changes to the core gameloop have a tendency to make combative fanbases, like monhun
I'm more inclined to blame the shitposters for shitposting.
dd1 is an amazing but dead game, discussed to death as well. dd2 is an ongoing shit sequel, why would it not dominate ongoing discussion? And being shit, why would that discussion gloss over it being shit? Literally no one is stopping you from posting the same memes we've all seen 100 times, go ahead.
What do you want to disguss?
This. Holy fucking shit, you people need to have your families flayed alive for doing this shit.
It's 1 guy who has been samefagging for months on end over DD2 and calling it a "flop", when it's had more players than 1 ever did.
>people calling DD2 a flop are samefagging
How do DD2fags get this mindbroken?
You sincerely believe "1" (lol) anon calling DD2 a flop is the reason why there are no organic, active DD2 threads on Ganker like there were for DD1? It's the only explanation that makes sense, not because it's a shit dead game no one cares about and has 0 modders and drawfags creating community content for.
>"muh DD1 has more content!"
True, and it's also the fundamentally better game. Nobody is going "I fucking hate DD1, but I HAVE to play through all the available DLC and mods because they exist. God I wish I could just play DD2 over and over instead, if only it was designed for that."
Okay samefag.
Don't engage anon. He's been samefagging this entire goddamn thread.
He's been samefagging DD2 threads exclusively for almost a full year now
>1 person thinking DD2 is bad is the reason why it can't get threads on Ganker
OK conspiracy schizo, guess you weren't there for DD1 threads.
Like I said, absolutely mindbroken.
Okay samefag
>Damn... I wonder why no one is discussion threads or funny meme images for this game (I can't myself because I'm a retarded shill)... I see 1 poster didn't like it and must be behind every negative post in this 200+ reply thread, yeah that's it, I'm a genius...
Now reply "don't engage" to yourself.
Okay samefag.
whew good thread, I'm exhausted from being behind other other reply using 100 unique IPs.
DD2 cultural renaissance will surely happen any moment now, and remember to not engage with the haters!
>Ruin has come to our fandom
DD2 ruined it, can't even blame the doomposters, paying for a hero we had since launch in game 1 is just criminal
given enough time any type of thread will garner it's clique of schizos to drag down discussion
>still no houndmaster, even with all "pets" stuff
And I'm sleeping
DD2 already released with less heroes than 1, on two different platforms so fans who wanted to play EA would have to buy it on Epic.
I'm not spending money to play the same boring game I already stygian grand slammed but with Crusader and a brown chick who doesn't have a sexy tummy like SB.
>the same boring game
If only DD2 was more similar to DD1, then maybe it wouldn't have such bad reviews on steam...
DD1
>111,966 reviews, 91% positive
DD2
>10,406 reviews, 74% positive
I sure hope taking Timmy's money was worth it.
Honestly I doubt many would care about the epic china money if only the game wasn't generic roguelite slop
DD1 also was greatly involved with the community during its development, making changes and reacting to the shifts in how people play it. With DD2 being Epic exclusive during its early access, they moved the feedback reception from Steam forums to their Discord, and their "sample size" of players was much smaller.
So yes, DD2 being Epic exclusive did negatively impact its development.
As far as I know the only thing redhook did with feedback in regards to DD1 was just make the game harder by adding features nobody asked for to the point where they had to make those features toggleable
This. For fucks sake, retards here are acting like corpses were a feature anybody WANTED when they were first added. The entire fucking reason Death's Door is a thing is because everyone seethed at the idea that your characters instantly died at 0 health.
Corpses were one of the best features added during EA. Death's Door was a major feature advertised for the game during the Kickstarter.
Darkest Dungeon threads have been so fucking terrible that at this point, I'd rather they just get deleted on sight.
Make a terrible game, get terrible threads
have a nice day.
Don't engage with him, anon.
This is a generic roguelite slop with a DD skin
Play more games
Convinced the devs browse these threads because i've never seen such insanely rabid defenders for such a shitty indie game that very rarely gets threads
You just got proven right, lol.
>The Binding Blade
This isn't really any more scummy than the shieldbreaker DLC for DD1 already was, but the lack of workshop support for the sequel continues to disappoint.
>This isn't really any more scummy than the shieldbreaker DLC
yeah if you ignore the fact that dd2 launched with less content than dd1 including missing classes *including* the fan favourite youre now gonna play for, INCLUDING not one but two classes
totally the same
Is it fun or upsetting to see weird political conspiracies behind every decision? I just can't imagine.
It requires you to be an unhinged psychopathic narcissist obsessed with your own delusions. You literally need to be utterly miserable to do so.
they are mostly victims of propaganda. Modern politics suck and I feel bad for the poor fools that fall for them on either side. I'm glad I had friends and family to pull me out of that shithole when I was young and impressionable, but not everyone is as lucky.
Rage addiction is real and anywhere on Ganker it's easy to just be constantly hammered into that feedback loop, on-topic or otherwise.
The only winning move is to not engage.
isn't that the sequel that completely misses the point of the first game and alienates a lot of its existing audience for the sake of not just being an improved version of the first game but something different?
why did they just steal his sword??? that's fucked up dude
cause Roy's a jobber who doesn't deserve good things.
It's foreshadowing for the DD x FE crossover which will actually be about VTubers doing DD combat as FE avatars
That's almost Fire Emblem Engage
>Engage hate out of nowhere
>also doesn't know jack shit about FE games
TBF Vtubers doing FE things is mostly what FE: Engage is, people play more than one type of game, you oversensitive moron
Saw this coming from a mile away, it was obvious.
>yeah if you ignore the fact that dd2 launched with less content than dd1
Not replying to you, but this is a blatant lie. It actually launched with more classes than what 1 had initially.
That's probably why I was done with the launch version of DD2 having seen everything in about 30 hours as opposed to the 120+ it took to beat DD1 on release
That's probably because you had no idea what you were doing in DD1; it has a horrific grind if you aren't going out of your way to grab the bank as early as possible and doing 0 torchlight runs with the minimum number of supplies to grab as many heirlooms as possible.
>building the bank
you'd have to be playing at a snail's pace for that bastard to pay out.
Is DD2 as fun as DD1?
Personally? No but if DD1 is a 10/10 then DD2 is a solid 9/10. But DD2 provides a difference experience and is worth playing regardless.
It's not. The roguelike experience is aids, it offers nothing better than what the first game had. The combat system is improved a bit and the graphics are better if you care but that's it. Technically it's less punishing because you lose absolutely nothing when your party dies but that also means that winning feels very hollow
>Nanan I don't hear you crusader was removed because christian imagery is forbidden even though vestal and lepper are still in nanana
>Bla bla woke esg shit that was in the first game too
>Hurr they brought him back because the game flopped and they need our dollarydoo now despite they the same shit before durr
As usual the loudest Gankerermins only complain about surface level shit that barely matter on how shit the game actually is.
Good straw manning it wasn't because of Christian imagery it was because of crusading imagery that put their panties in a twist, we wouldn't want to upset our widdle moors.
cope, vestal being gone was always part of the schizo narrative and when she got back in people just changed tack
>devs hate him
>he's dead
So whats the excuse now from all the retards in previous DD threads, who said he'd never be in the game or be dlc?
The new line is "they're adding him because the game flopped."
Which is true. When in trouble, pander. That is the dev response.
Aren't they a big desert mod with a new campaign for DD1? It's out ?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2119270/Black_Reliquary/
>head artist for the mod can't keep his dick in his pants and the entire mod is full of designs like pic related
>also adds a pointless prep round mechanic to waste time in every encounter
It's really impressive as a fan work, but I couldn't get through it.
>the entire mod is full of designs like pic related
only thing in the game that was kind of a surprise is that theres a fucking twink playing support in one of the factions. besides him, and some thick fucking thighs on same barbarian woman, i dont see the issue. perfectly reasonable
>pointless prep round mechanic to waste time in every encounter
probably my favourite addition in the mod, makes some skills much more useful. if there would ever be a dd3 it needs to have this
Holy hell. Is there a graphic sex minigame in the mod!? Waste otherwise.
That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
The chibi proportions were kind of an odd decision despite just getting used to it, I guess it was supposed to be reminiscent of medieval tapestries or something. DD1 has amazing music, I think relatively few of the tracks in DD2 compare. These are my favorites from each:
>That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
Why wasn't this in the base game?
>That entire enemy faction is based on the concept of the men being completely dominated and enslaved by the larger and more physically powerful women.
Spurple is always like this
im honestly surprised hes still on the project
is this the longest hes gone without having an ego meltie and ruining an entire project based on nothing but his own autism?
>having an ego meltie and ruining an entire project based on nothing but his own autism?
Didn't he do that to Cloud Meadow, ir was that another guy?
mhm and a certain tower game before that
I find people of this type are literally just tools. Use them and milk them for their talent and labor, get as muchbas you can from them, then simply dispose of them by removing them before they can ever bitchfit and sabotage. Lay claim to all their work in the project and keep using it all even if they want it removed, then tell them they deserve it. Isn't thar the most sensible thing to do? Or have I become a bit sociopathic due to my relevant life experiences on the receiving end from such individuals?
That is a fast-track to those people sticking their rabid fan boys on you like a pack of dogs and getting you cancelled/your entire project boycotted. Just never interact with them in the first place.
some people argue that artists in general should be treated like this since they tend to be the neurotic type
its naggers like spurple that gives credit to that argument
yes you are right but using and abusing these people is rather hard since how do you tell the diffy when someone has fallen a bit behind on work
or theyre plotting your downfall and just waiting for any kind of negative talk to quit your project and denounce you somehow
also what the other anon said, cult of personality shit ENSURES that they will get work again and air blown up their ass no matter how shitty their actions
Slumped shoulders, wild eyes, and a stumbling gait - this one is no more good to us.
anon became him
did he died?
no
he started wearing monk robes and an iron mask to hide his deformity tho
prep round is actually interesting albeit. tho it has a learning curve
Maybe I was using the wrong characters but for most of the roster it seemed pointless to take the extremely low odds of landing an attack during prep, I just used their designated buffing move or whichever move was specifically designated to be used during prep and that was that.
Pulpy Conan-esque designs that still manage to work within the game's artstyle are literally the best thing about this mod, you dickless xitterite homosexual.
yeah okay homo
>mod full of of skimpy-dressed warrior women (by his own admission)
>posts a single trap design in the entire mod
Anything you'd like to share, anon?
the artist is a irredeemable homosexual and has no clue what subtlety means
Anon there's no subtlety in Darkest Dungeon. You fight pigmen in the sewers and people go insane from wine being spilled on them.
The vanilla siren showing a nipple for one second is more erotic than the entirety of s-purple's mods combined
I believe he meant the "subtlety" in the way one includes erotic themes. It's the difference between something being tantalizing and pornographic, whether or not it looks like it even belongs in the thing you're producing.
You can show a sex scene, for instance, or you can show innuendos, and the latter tends to be sexier more often than not.
Subtlety is gay and so are you.
you think subtlety is gay because you're a feral subhuman animal that is unable to appreciate the small details
Yes, it's out as a "free DLC"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2119270/Black_Reliquary/
>Free dlc
Wut, red hook stole it?
No, its a mod not associated with red hook
>That's probably why I was done with the launch version of DD2 having seen everything in about 30 hours as opposed to the 120+ it took to beat DD1 on release
Not replying to you (again), but in DD1 you had:
>Weald
>Cove
>Ruins
>Farmstead
>Court
>Darkest Dungeon
Two of those are post-launch DLC, so they can be removed if we're talking release DD1, meaning you only had four locations in the base game. In terms of bosses you had:
>Bloodletter
>Swine King
>Prophet
>Necromancer
>Flesh
>Hag
>Cannon
>Siren
>Crew
>Vvulf
>Shambler
>Shrieker
>Horror
Counting the final boss, the base game only had 15 bosses, which got raised to 24 with DLC. And in the base game, you'd see most of these in less than 30 hours if you were playing effectively. And your total heroes in DD1 are 18, with two of those being additions post-launch, meaning you actually started with 16.
Damn you retarded no wonder you haven't figured out how to reply
For comparison, release DD2 has:
>Tangle
>Shroud
>Foetor
>Sprawl
>Sluice
>Mountain
Adding up to a total of 6 regions, with one as a minor region - exactly the same as DD1 WITH both DLC. For bosses, you have:
>Leviathan
>Harvest Child
>Librarian
>Dreaming General
>Death
>Exemplar
>Shambler
>5 Confession bosses
This gives you a total of 12, before you ever add in the post-patch enemies like the Collector, Chirugeon, and this this new Warlord for 15 - the exact same as base DD1. And note that the bosses in 2 are orders of magnitude harder than the ones in the first. If you count every Cultist encounter or the Hero Confessions (both of which are boss-tier encounters/actual bosses in the case of Flagellant's final Hero Confession), then you actually have almost 30 bosses.
For heroes, you had 13 on release so three less than base DD1, but with Crusader and Duelist coming out, the game only has 1 less than base DD1 and 3 less than the game + both DLC. And this is just me ignoring the Altar of Hope or various modifiers like the types of Flame as well as minor locations you can encounter.
In short: DD2 started out with more non-hero release content than DD1 ever had and added even more without ever touching on DLC, with this being the first DLC they've ever released for the game.
My favorite part of the game is how it's filled to the brim with intentionally bad or low tier items that offer nothing but to punish you for trying to get rewards but it's okay because the game is meant to be "hard" haha isn't bad rng fun? Isn't losing because the enemies keep ramping up in difficulty but you get absolute shit items so you're just inherently weaker because there's no other way to ramp up in damage besides items and skill points?
Oh. I thought this would be a fun darkest dungeon thread as I recently picked it up on switch but I guess it's just a bunch of veterans shit flinging.
title of the thread says DD2, are you a retard?
>nit0ddler
nvm
It's a series. Even if I'm playing one it doesn't mean I wouldn't want to talk about 2.
It's funny how we went from being able to have entire threads about just one game to not being able to have a full thread about 2 games plus a full conversion mod due to there being nothing left but vitriol.
The prep rounds could just be replaced with automatically-applied buffs at the start of combat and basically nothing would change.
i dont think i ever use buffs on the prep round unless using highwayman so it would change quite a lot
DD2 is pretty fun but I can see why it being a wholly different type of game pissed people off. But I guess thats what you get when you have fucking zoomers infesting Ganker.
>buh buh how are they zoomers?
Only zoomers who haven't been playing video games since the golden age (aka: NES through PS2) don't remember the days of series being wildly different with their sequels. They wanted to provide a new experience, not rehashed shit. Fucking newfags.
what if the new experience is shit
Then they tried something new again.
the gameplay experience being shit is kind of subjective
a lot of people enjoy fighting games but i simply can't fucking stand playing them
Most fighting games are kinda shit. That said, you not liking them is you, specifically, being a shitter. I'm sorry anon.
cant tell if discord naggers or bad trolls
*narrows eyes*
Name a good fighting game that isn't SF2, anon.
Aquapazza: Aquaplus Dream Match
Neither of those are good.
nah its just you
skill issue
them's fightin herds
Anon you're replying to here
I can't
Anyone else claiming to be him is blatantly false
he replied to2anons tho
u r maed of fail
you're gay and have aids, i'm sorry as well anon
a) during the "golden age" sequels were the same but more (doom, homm, descent, fallout), not "wildly different"
b) dd2 is not new, its formula has been done before countless times. dd1 was more unique
c) youre like 20 years old lol
>a) during the "golden age" sequels were the same but more
And thats how I know you're a zoomer shit. Zelda 2 sure was similar to 1, hurr durr.
concession accepted kiddo
>developers get older and make a game that doesn't have an epic nihilistic ending
>Ganker hates it
unsurprising!
>crusader is now wearing the same red scarf as highwayman
cute
As someone who only played DD2, and can only think of FTL when remembering "Roguelikes" he played (if that qualifies), I had a lot of fun with DD2 but loved its atmosphere but it really was a completely different concept. As one anon here said, variation and adaption is discouraged. you "end-game" build is set from the beginning. it rather plays like a JRPG. I unorincally wished it was longer, had more different settings (think climates and places), and enemy variants...
ironically dd1 will be perfect for you
DD1 does not have different climates. Not unless you're talking about mods.
imma be honest I kinda dislike the what I find less serious cartoon look. I really dont like the models. maybe the music would save it for me but I would probably think about installing dd2 mods while playing....
>I unorincally wished it was longer, had more different settings (think climates and places), and enemy variants...
Well go play the first Darkest Dungeon then
>variation and adaption is discouraged
Did they not give players the ability to swap their character paths now on top of already being able to swap skills? I think that adds more variation and adaptation, doesn't it?
I'm left feeling unsure what to do whenever you beat Act 5 for the first time, are you just supposed to play Act 5 over and over after that point? I would even just take a button that puts you on a random act with a random torch modifier.
Infernal and challenge runs?
>15 hours in
>Only beat the newfag necromancer
Guys... I don't know if I can make it through.
why am I not surprised
Reddit is moving it, the paypig will buy it
Loving it*
How does darkest dungeon 1 compare to slay through spire in depth strategy and replayability?
Why are you tying so hard to compare these two games?
Less RNG and less off the fly strategic adaptation.
You can swap skills and trinkets within a dungeon, but it's more like accumulating a diverse roster of builds tailored to different roles, regions and encounters.
Very high replayability.
>sequel would've been better off if they had just done the previous game again with more content but the devs didn't want to
How many examples of this are there? Right now I got Darkest Dungeon 2, Age of Wonders 4, Endless Dungeon, and I guess Limbus Company all in my steam library
kino
Please don't call me a shill but I have no idea how people can say that dd1's stick figures look better than this i want to vomit every time I go back to play that game
I don't know anyone that says DD2 looks bad, I do know a lot of people that think DD1 is a better game though.
The new artsyle is soulless, the old one was kino
>Slumped shoulders, wild eyes, and a stumbling gait - this one is no more good to us.
now imagine this BUT with DD1 gameplay, that's what the fans been asking anon
God he looks so good.
He should have been in from the start instead of the lead devs cringe ass daughter selfinsert.
Runaway is probably the biggest wasted slot in the series.
I would rather want a generic goon on my team than that useless ass ugly bitch
she's kind of broken in position 4 with that character path that adds extra DoT to her ranged attack, I was adding like 8 per turn with her at one point
holy fuck i forgot how ugly vestal was in this game
Cool will probably play it a year from now with all the dlc included.
The 2nd game looks so soulless compared to the first. Whatever they did with the animations and general gameplay ruined it.
okay but is the game still shit?
and if so, why should i care?
Strange question I know but.
Should I play 2 first? Considering it's so different and I already know the story I'm wondering if I should save 1 for later.
Why? 2 is bound to get more updates and DLCs while you play through 1
I'd rather not go on to an inferior game even if the game isn't is slightly better by the time I get to it.
The only area DD1 is inferiour to 2 is graphics, and even that is subjective.
of fucking course play the original first. 2 isn't standalone enough to enjoy on its own merits.
You didn't protect her
Anon, she was only ever in it for the money, even her backstory comic shows her being a terrible person.
Then why does she give the treasure she finds to you
Because we'd throw her into the Warrens if she didn't.
I think she's the only enemy that doesn't die when you beat her in 2, she just runs away.
Death doesn't die either.
Dying is gay
Death likewise doesn't die - merely retracts her avatar to try again.
I like the Mod Duelists design 100 times better tbh.
for the red hook devs reading this thread: I would pay $20 to get musketeer back
>indie studio accidentally makes a hit
>completely misses the cause of success, fucks up every conceivable thing subsequently
every time
Their game succeeded because they told their fans to fuck off whenever they complained about the changes they made during early access. The entire documentary about the first game ends on the note of "if you know you have a good idea, stick to your guns."
>told their fans to fuck off whenever they complained about the changes they made
you mean randomly nerf whatever items people liked to use to the point where most items are not worth using (not the dlc ones of course!)?
they are a perfect example of a dev team that just got a masterstroke out of luck and then made every possible shit decision later on
Explain to me why people use mods with anime eyes and shit when you can still get the lewd mods matching the game's art style? Monster tits and all?
Weebs have no taste, if they did they wouldn't be weebs
some people just have terminal animebrain.
simple as.
A good question I'm a weeb and I can't stand mods that clash with the original artstyle of a game especially if it's a distinct one like DD.
>lewd mods
>Boring, shitty pngs
Why even bother with this shit?
I don't want porn mods, I want cute girl mods.
Though in a perfect world these would have versions with the eyes blackened.
>porn mods
>cute girl mods
what's the difference
your lack of knowledge betrays you zoomie
>no argument
i accept your concession, you lost the argument
>fails the burden of proof
>copes and concedes
heh, youre too easy
your concession has already been.. accepted
>fails the burden of proof
>copes and concedes
youre too easy
your concession has already been accepted, you lost, i win, i'm sorry
I just want Shindol's Helion with the cute chubby little cheeks kicking ass, because I like things that are cute and cool
If I wanted porn, I can look up pov heart-shaped_pupils rating_explicit on gelbooru and get 126 pages of results, I don't need to turn my good video game in to porn, why would I need to do that? I'm trying to play it.
>Ruining the art style
I'd have to get some good brush settings to make proper edits to the sprites with anime eyes but this is how I usually play DD
>Reynauld takes off his helmet in his backstory mission
>He's not white
Watch it happen
>Reynauld takes off his helmet
>He’s not alive
>takes off his helmet
>there's nothing underneath
wouldn't that mean he'd be unkillable gameplay wise
it's not really any weirder than the flagellant routinely defeating death herself
i mean flagellant's still human
he just challenged death and pain so many times that death itself got tired of his shit
Would be pretty kino, unironically.
DD1 reynauld is white
if that happens then the new crusader is an impostor
DD was never good, only mods make it decent
Why are they adding new characters instead of a reason to beat the game more than once? Its been like a year since the release?
How's DD2 now compared to launch? I remember being bored to death by the wagon sections.
It's still just as boring since the game fundamentally fails at what made DD1 fun (roster building, team building, base management, dungeon delving) and simultaneously fails to be an engaging Roguelike since the runs take too long and they don't have the right kind of RNG to keep you engaged.
They look as if they folded
This is pretty fucking pathetic
i hope leper gets a buff or everyone gets reduced to his power level, he's easily one of the weakest heroes
Does DD2 have the same narrator? Wayne June IIRC
yeah, but he plays a different character who is significantly less cynical than the ancestor and he sounds older (because he is older)
DD2 narrator is called the academic
DD1 was the ancestor
the academic is a benign entity
the ancestor is a piece of shit who did horrible things during his lifetime and manipulated the heir into "cleaning up his mess" so that he can meet the required amount of sacrifices to become a godly entity
the academic is (you)r close personal friend, you basically are taking the role of the ancestor in this game except you're actually trying to fix your mistake instead of reveling in it
People pirate that shit anyway.
I like how contrations are just idiots for the sport. DD1 was an alright one third of a game stretched to 100 hours. DD2 has problems but at least its playable unlike DD1.
>They add Reynault back to the game
>He is a boss fight.
no...no no no NO.
Bros...not like this...
uh oh
No? I'm just pirating it like the base game
The duellist is a female NIGRESS???!
Gross, will just mod him in
Wait they made a sequel to Darkest Dungeon?
>he found out
Yes
Ganker pretended it didn't exist for like 2 years because it was on Timmy's Fortnite Launcher. They then had a few threads on it for a few months after it hit Steam.
>ywn imbibe her emboldening vapors
i will now buy your game
i support this ship
too bad only 3 pictures of it exist
it's a humble start
terrible
It's all right. It's just the complainers who couldn't even beat DD1 on Radiant getting shit stomped in 2.
I hate this ship
what a shame
white women moment
i hope the crusader character pack does reynauld justice
i fear they might turn him into a black trans atheist
their dlc characters are always busted so he'll be usable at least
if he's shit tier like leper i'm modding the game to buff him
Name one time they have changed the religious characters in this game. I'll wait.
it's just a fear i have they'll follow the woke trend
but apparently ESG score is dying so that gives me a bit more of hope
didn't they already make every character bisexual?
gameplay wise yeah they get random gay quirks sometimes at the tavern but it has no impact on the narrative so i just ignore it
The relationship system is not sexual
The amorous relationship results in them audibly plapping in the carriage between fights.
So you don't actually have any evidence and are just schiozing over nothing then. Typical Ganker.
it IS a trend within the industry so his fear is not unfounded
granted none have seemingly happened in this specifically but one must always keep a dim view of the future
dont have such a volatile "holier than thou attitude" or you wont give you any of my updoots homosexual D:<
Except for them suddenly deciding that Vestal is trans?
wait what the fuck
Now is the part where you cope, and try telling me that Vestal was trans in the first game too.
my nagger i am out of the loop
i am geniuenly asking as to when/where this happened because ive never heard of this before
NTA but post proof.
you a bot or did you quote wrong?
quote wrong. My b.
Post proof
This entire thread is a protracted chain of making shit up about the sequel because it's funny and people react to it
>TH-THAT NEVER HAPPENED
>JUST BECAUSE THE DEVS SAID IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE
Cope.
he's literally me
He's bullshitting you. They haven't said anything regarding Junia other than putting her into the sequel.
Jesus fucking Christ, you know these threads have gone bad when you have a singular samefag blatantly making shit up and retards actually believing it.
>source: my stinky anus
>can finally see reynauld and dismas in the homosexual relationship we envisioned
The jump to 3D did justice to the women, Grave robber is pure sexxo
>nig lips
She always had thick, luscious lips.
getting rid of the bobblehead proportions also helped
How do developers like Red Hook unironically and completely lose the plot of what made them successful in the first place?
ESG scores
>Cash grab game is doing another cash grab
Shocking. There was no reason for a second game at all. There was already too much unnecessary shit in the first game. Once you played a few mid length dungeons you had done all there was to do.
>too much unnecessary shit in the first game
yes, they retconned that in the sequel
What the fuck went wrong?
The first game was a cultural phenomenon in the indie space. Now people don't even realize DD2 exists.
Is this the new fucking meme? Making holy knight lover pay extra? Lord of the Fallen gave you that Dark Crusader class if you bought the deluxe edition.
You can unlock the class through gameplay
I know but it's still a garbage trend.
cause they know chuds will pay for a crusader because they incorrectly believe that christians will rise up one day and crusade again (they won't)
fuck no
i just like him because he's relatable and i can self insert into his faceless helmet
>indie developer makes the sequel the same but more
>Ganker hates it
She killed a man
>DD2
>Salt and Sacrifice
>Axiom Verge
Why are all these indies shitting the bed with their sequels?
>Devs include black characters in a medieval fantasy setting
>DD stans are shocked when they add equally retarded elements
wew
Does DD2 even have mods yet or did everyone just go back to DD1 and never bothered with the 3d shit?
there are mods but not nearly as many
A few but the mod tools haven’t been released yet so they’re pretty limited in scope.
DD2 gets way less fun once you unlock all the combat/inn items and trinkets. Getting a few of those randomly at the start of the run was nice. Also the game just starts straight up cheating at a certain point. On the last boss run the positive tokens on enemies and negative tokens on heroes are very obviously not what they say they are. 50% dodge for an enemy becomes 75 and 75 becomes 100. For you though 75 becomes 50 and 50 feels more like 20. Shits gay.
You also constantly get negative relationship rolls regardless of how much you buffed positive interaction chance.
I'm not mad that they made it a roguelike.
I'm mad that they made it a SHIT roguelike.
>Spoon feed me
Eat shit, zoomer. You have internet access.
>makes claim
>can't substantiate it
no proof to back a claim
automatic concession
I thought he gave himself to the Darkest Dungeon to save the town as for the reason of him not returning.
that was never confirmed but it was somewhat implied by the helmet and accepted as canon by fans
I'm going to assume it's not the same crusader, but we won't know for sure until whatever his default name is is shown
I wonder if flagellant being absent from the ending implies he's completely past the point of any sort of redemption or if he finally found the death he was seeking.
More likely he was just the last player character added and they didn't bother going back to include him.
he probably went back to his dungeon to indulge in more self harm
release it for xbox already ffs