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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes anon, you like playing an open world shooter with a leveling system, thats not the problem however.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keyed Todd

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nigged

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >racism le bad
      Every non-human creature displays racist tendencies and they continue to thrive to this day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shit argument. white humans are forced to embrace tribalism due to the current global zeitgeist.
        we are superior to animals and have legitimate justification for in-group preference

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every non-human creature also displays infanticidal tendencies. If you're using animals as your model for what's moral you're moronic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what amuses me about racists is that they can't seem to grasp that no, not everyone is like them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Currently in the middle of the most recent mass extinction event since the Cretaceous-Paleogene event 66 million years ago
        >Humanity has doubled since 1960
        >Non-humans thriving
        It is literally the easiest thing in the world to dunk on and disprove chuddies. Now watch as he ignores this post as it doesn't support his agenda.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2, 3 and the Chinese version of 4 all happen under communism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2, 3 and the Chinese version of 4 all happen under communism.
        kek really? someone have the chink version of these games? I really want to know how they play out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >side quest involves convincing a group of elites that a minority group isn't all violent savages and to live together with them
      >said minority immediately murders all the elites afterwards with no remorse
      what did todd mean by this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bethesda is very good at keeping their powerlevel on the down-low.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But Ganker is the most pro consumer board I've ever seen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day commie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whao, Fallout nowhere says this!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if it's not written on a neon sign I simply won't believe it!
        Dumbass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >american exceptionalism is bad
      israeli hands made this image.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only like two of those things is a proper theme in Fallout, and even those are either very tangential or so basic that you could apply it to almost any piece of media. Pro-tip: The complete obsession with pre-War America is a Bethesda thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le consumerism bad
      Ok, say good bye to playing Fallout and any games for that matter

      >le racism is bad
      Frick off, Black person

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >FO3 turns you into a pajeet
    >NV turns you into a trany
    >FO4 turns you into a chad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do the first two turn you into?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A wasteland fan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2 turns you into a redditor

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1 turns you into Giga Chad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a jaded old boomer

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    despite all my hate
    i am still just unsure what they ate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a caravan town. They trade scrap, drinks and water for food.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s a caravan town
        >has one Brahmin inside
        >one caravan there at a time
        >one general store
        They’re not the Hub, stop using this cope.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The game does not even pretend that it's a trading town.
          There is an actual trade hub in the game though. And it's even more embarrassing than Megaton. It literally does not even have a store or a place where traders could rest, and the sole quest-line in the area revolves around fricking superheroes.

          Fallout 3's world design is literally the biggest shitshow I've ever seen in medium+ scale game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there was supposed to be a big market but it was cut

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm sure it was. It's not like absolute lack of any care or common sense is not an UNIVERSAL feature of the game. I'm also sure it would be impossible for them to at least plop down a fricking outside vendor, and some beds in the local ruins. It's all been actually cut and totally not just them not giving a frick.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there're actually two unused traders in the game files for that location

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine a situation where a team provides dozens of good ideas and dozens of absolutely shit ideas. Now imagine that the guys in charge specifically went out of their way to remove the good ideas and focus on the bad ideas until they run out of time. This is Bethesda's development process.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be honest, I do not believe anyone who worked on Fallout 3 had any good Fallout releated ideas to begin with. Maybe that polish art concept artist, that is about it.
                Fo3 is defined by being the absolutely purest example of souless corporate cashgrab title. A game that was made because the fricking IP was purchased by the publisher, and they had to make return on it, but literally nobody actually wanted to do that shit.

                It's what makes Fo3 uniquely shitty even by Bethesda absolute trash standards. It's why we got vampires and blade runner and cartoony messages about classism and hilarious catchphrase spouting gundams: it's the studio's silent protest to being forced to work on an IP they had absolutely ZERO interest in working on.
                People making a game against their will don't come up with good ideas. Bethesda explicit and deliberate focus on making games as mediocre as humanly possible is really just the tip of the iceberg of things that went wrong with Fo3.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And somehow it completely brought the franchise back to life

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And somehow it completely brought the franchise back to life

                NV was OK, but frankly, seeing what an absolute fricking shambling zombie the IP has been turned into, I wonder if it was even worth it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fallout has literally only been popular when Bethesda touches it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember time when saying something this pathetic here would be just unthinkable.
                You are literally loudly announcing "I'm a brain-dead console casual whose first game experience was in late 7th gen!" on fricking Ganker.
                I'm not sure what you think that will achieve. Do you actively want people laughing at you? Are you trying to top a personal record in how many times people called you a reddit pleb in 1 hour?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The truth really gets you angry.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why exactly do you think they made Tactics and BoS? Fallout wasn't a mainstream game by any means, but it was very well known among RPG enthusiasts. It got sold not because it was too obscure, but because of mismanagement.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure, thats why after they made fo1 they went and made: a sequel, one spinoff, another spinoff and were actively planning a third game
                youre just a bethesda shiteater

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People like to think that if Bethesda never bought out the IP that it would have died when some of the former devs of Interplay, Trolka, wanted to buy it but got outbid by them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Pitt is good. The BoS/Outcast split is good in concept. DC being a complete shithole/war zone isn't terrible but pulling a bunch of muties out of their ass was stupid.

                Honestly if you just shift the game to Pittsburgh and set it during the Razing I think you have something really cool on your hands.
                >massive amounts of Fallout and toxic radiation make the place hell to live
                >various factions vying for control of the steel plant, but everyone's fricked up because the Pitt is hell to live in, explaining the eternal spiral downward as factions and individuals get more and more desperate before being consumed by new outsiders hungry for salvage
                >the waterways are so polluted that they liquefy anyone who falls in, making the map easy to break up into discrete sections if you want
                >BoS show up as a curveball mid-main quest to put an end to the bullshit. You can join them or get an epic running final battle that makes more sense than the Enclave showing up to get obliterated again
                The common theme with Bethesda is coming up with an idea that's cool as shit and then fricking it up. They really need to reign in the scope of their projects and just focus on figuring out their writing workflow.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kek even TES games have farms and crop fields and shit. Fallout sisssies BTFO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black person imagine the "Megaton" you visit as a virtual representation of the Megaton that was created by one person who i'm sure envisioned more than what Fo3 could/would display, between hardware limitations and the audiences expectations, not to mention ~~*investor influences*~~ these details are lost or cast off as unimportant, but Megaton is a trade town anyway hence the caravans outside you triple homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm surprised that BOS still didn't bother taking away the bomb from the "local wildlife", what's preventing them from doing this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fallout 1 and 2 showed that keeping a nuclear bomb in your base is a bad idea.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eastern Brotherhood aren't as technohomosexual as elsewhere and the Town basically only has a single entry point and is easy to seal that off with the Jet powered walls and defend the place hard of they were attacked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can see a trade caravan there every day. They trade water for food.
      >But that doesn't count because it uhh just doesn't
      Meanwhile the BoS bunker in NV makes just as little sense and the only explanation you get is that they send people out to get food during sand storms. Where exactly do they get there food from? How do just a few people manage to get enough food for the entire bunker in the short time a sand storm is happening?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you get is that they send people out to get food during sand storms.
        I thought they have a machine to create sandstorms whenever they want hence why you see a sandstorm when going to their bunker to help hide it away

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. Also, Veronica is literally out securing resources - they regularly send out people under cover to do trade - on what is literally the most frequented and trafficed highway in the whole wide area, as it is the main road between NV and the major population centers in NCR, there are farms and ranches at both sides, you get to actually see and visit them too. You get speak to multiple ranchers and farmers, there are entire quests revolving around explaining how they operate, where do they get water etc, all of it providing ample explanation of how the economy works.
          Everything that he says is wrong and moronic. Which really should be no surprise, it's a beth drone defending Fallout 3. It's always moronic, almost always straight up contradicted by the game too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What does the BOS trade for inexchange for food and water? They horde all their technology so they won't let anyone have it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They horde all their technology so they won't let anyone have it.
              Considering they are sitting in largely intact military base, and considering that when they moved into the area, they no doubt have been provided with both currency and supplies from their parent base, both backup of currency, and low-tech supplies, such as basic ammo they can manufacture easily in large scales, would be the most logical answer. The brotherhood is a large-scale paramilitary organization, it's pretty much logical they would have secure resources for emergency ahead of time. It's also why you don't see people complaining about lack of established supply lines for Brotherhood in Fo3, and that complaint is used to illustrate lack of consideration in CIVILIAN infrastructure.

              It's also worth noting that Brotherhood has been in full shut down mode only since the battle of Helios, which in in-game time, took place weeks before the Currier arrived. They have not been stranded there for that long.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not to mention finding and fixing up any low priority tech and selling it would net them a good amount of caps.
                >took place weeks before the Currier arrived
                No the battle took place in 2276 and NV takes place in 2281.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing in-game supports any of those theories though, in the same way that nothing in Fallout 3 supports any of the theories regarding what Megaton eats.
                I don't remember seeing any large stockpiles of gunpowder, lead, and brass inside Hidden Valley. I also don't remember seeing any pack brahmins or anything that could transport large quantities of goods to trade for supplies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are Fallout 3 fans really this desperate?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'm not a Fallout 3 fan homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure thing kiddo, which is why you are acting insanely dumb to not make Fallout 3 look idiotic? I'm sorry, but if you aren't a deranged Fo3 fanboy, that makes it worse: that makes you have no fricking reason to be THIS. FRICKING. STUPID.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                /v/egas fanboys are absolutely deranged holy shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry, kid, but do you even realize what you fricking said?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All I remember is you coping, which you are continuing to do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love that you managed to maintain the whole "I'm not desperate Fo3 defense force!" for about 15 seconds. What exactly am I coping with, according to you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love that you keep insisting that I'm defending Fallout 3 simply because I'm calling out NV on one thing. You're coping with the fact that you're wrong and moronic.

                How do you manage to have that many hours in the game? The main game is only 20-40 hours if you include side quests.

                Different builds, different quest paths, different endings, and also lots and lots of mods. I just genuinely like the game. The difference between me and the other homosexuals in this thread is that I'm not sucking on Obsidian's nutsack 24/7 acting like NV has no flaws.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm calling out NV on one thing
                Except you aren't.
                Again. Are you even aware of what you said?

                Let me give you a hint.
                What do we actually learn about economy of FNV, and about the situation of BoS?

                And what do we actually learn about the economy of Fo3 and the economy of Megaton?

                >You're coping with the fact that you're wrong and moronic.
                Again.
                Please formulate your whole point for me. Fricking put it into words and then fricking think about them for a second.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My whole point is that The Brotherhood of Steel inside of hidden valley does not have the supplies to trade, nor do they have the ability to transport said supplies back and forth. The theory that they quote: "no doubt have been provided with both currency and supplies from their parent base, both backup of currency, and low-tech supplies, such as basic ammo they can manufacture easily in large scales" is not supported by anything in game. The lore suggests to the contrary; the BoS had a lengthy firefight with the NCR where they expended a great deal of their initial supplies. The post I was originally replying to also claims that they have only been stranded in hidden valley for a few weeks, but that's completely false. Operation Sunburst took place 5 years before the arrival of the courier.

                The BoS inside of hidden valley is down to the bottom of the barrel, yet the game suggests that they have people going out regularly to acquire supplies to sustain them, and we're suppose to just take the game's word for it because it says so.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My whole point is that The Brotherhood of Steel inside of hidden valley does not have the supplies to trade, nor do they have the ability to transport said supplies back and forth.
                Which is all objectively wrong.
                It's also not what you said.

                Go back and actually read your FULL claim.

                The truth really gets you angry.

                What? That you are a braindead normie casual? Honestly, yeah, I came to Ganker to get away from morons like you, it's annoying that you decided to invade this place as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not my fault that your reading comprehension is less than a literal child.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not my fault that your reading comprehension is less than a literal child.
                It is your fault for straight up lying though.

                Let's take a look at your previous posts, shall we?
                >Nothing in-game supports any of those theories though, in the same way that nothing in Fallout 3 supports any of the theories regarding what Megaton eats.
                First of all: we - again, PLAY THE FRICKING GAME - encounter Veronica literally securing a deal on food supplies. We also get to see brotherhood, we get to trade with their quarter master, who has large amount of supplies of ammunition and other valuables.
                The entire storyline further literally evolves around the subject of BoS having enough supplies for NOW, but clearly running out in the near horizon. That is LITERALLY THE DRIVING FORCE OF THE THEIR STORYLINE. Something you would know if you spend half the time you spend searching for other people's profile's and their time-count on FNV actually playing, FNV.
                As for means of getting them in and out: have you ever heard of this interesting, sci-fi concept that the Fallout games introduced, called an exo-skeleton armor? I wonder which faction is - most iconically - associated (and showed) to use this outlandish technology that allows you to do things like carry substantially heavy loads...
                More importantly, you fricking unironically said that this is the same exact thing as the complaint leveled about Megaton and the economy of Fo3.
                Which leads me to asking you AGAIN the same questions posed here:
                >What do we actually learn about economy of FNV, and about the situation of BoS?
                >And what do we actually learn about the economy of Fo3 and the economy of Megaton?

                Can you answer those questions without pissing all over yourself again, child?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you reek of third world. What color is your skin?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shit color, obviously. The question is, what color is his skin after you've washed the shit off?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, YOU are the invader. You just haven't been here long enough to realize it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You just haven't been here long enough to realize it.
                Yeah, you and your special reddit commando have taken over this place a whole year ago!
                Jesus fricking Christ.
                Do you literally just have no dignity what so ever?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are such a moronic newbie that you don't even realize you were part of the reddit migration that killed this website.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you are such a moronic newbie that you don't even realize you were part of the reddit migration that killed this website.
                Can you tell me the actual history behind what would be later known as "TORtanic", kid?
                Clearly an oldgay like you would know the whole story, and not just the meme.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NVgays and reality mix like oil and water. If it wasn’t for Bethesda, your ass wouldn’t even be discussing the franchise right now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If it wasn’t for Bethesda, your ass wouldn’t even be discussing the franchise right now
                Are we supposed to be grateful for the fact that Bethesda shat all over the IP? Once again: Beth drones are absolutely fricking deranged, holy shit.

                "If Bethesda didn't frick everything up, you would have nothing to complain about, so we WIN!!!!!"
                Congratulation, child. You won. Piece of trash has made people talk about what a piece of trash that was for years. Great fricking contribution to be proud of and defend with your life.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it would just be people bickering about how f2 ruined everything f1 built. You wouldn’t be in the conversation of course since youre a nvgay and the only reason you even know about the franchise is because Bethesda saved it from the grave

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it would just be people bickering about how f2 ruined everything f1 built.
                Not really. The whole F2 ruined fallout thing is literally an invention of Fo3 fanboys. Something you would be well aware if you actually had any fricking clue what forums such as Mad Brahmin and NMV used to be before the shitstorm of gen7 gaming... You literally weren't even born back then though. Can see why you literally believe every moronic current-day meme about the franchise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ you guys take video games so seriously

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Jesus Christ you guys take video games so seriously
                Modern day Ganker: completely baffled why people on videogame discussion boards would talk about videogames... You are free to frick off to social media of your preferred choice, kid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I talk about games
                I don't get mad about them
                I don't form groups and rally around consumer products
                >le social media
                Lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I talk about games
                First line, already fricking lying out of your ass. Great job.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fallout 2 is literally filled with lore ruining shit and terrible dated cultural references. The game sucked what are you on about

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for proving my point. You can go now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only point you’re proving is mine since your rhetoric is that of the average nvgay who will hand wave much of the west coast games flaws to even much of the original developer’s annoyance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The only point you’re proving is mine since your rhetoric is that of the average nvgay who will hand wave much of the west coast games flaws to even much of the original developer’s annoyance
                You don't realize that you are STILL proving my point, do you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah you’re mind broken you’re not even making any sense anymore

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah you’re mind broken you’re not even making any sense anymore
                Let me help you a little:
                People who actually enjoy good games, enjoyed both Fallout 1 and 2. The shit your piece of trash is getting isn't out of tribalism, it's because Fallout 3 is a piece of trash. People who can recognize that, don't need to create arbitrary rivalries between Fo1 and 2. That shit was invented because Fo3 fans as part of a completely deranged belief that Fo3 is similar to Fo1, while FNV is like Fo2 - and as part of that deranged narrative, a despearate need to shit on 2 emerged.

                Because you literally cannot comprehend why people hate your favorite braindead corporate piece of shit.
                Again. People old enough to actually know Fo1 and 2 from back when they were still new, find your entire fricking tirade hilarious. And the more you desperately double down it, the more you prove what a casual, brain-dead, underage homosexual you really are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? People wouldn’t compare f1 to f2 because of 3 even though this whole situation started with the hypothetical that Bethesda never bought the ip. Again you’re proving you’re a nvgay. 1 and 2 can be compared without the existence of 3 and the fact you don’t think it’s possible proves you’re a nvgay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What? People wouldn’t compare f1 to f2 because of 3 even though this whole situation started with the hypothetical that Bethesda never bought the ip.
                What the fricking shit are you raving about? And you said that I'm not making sense?

                >Again you’re proving you’re a nvgay
                I'm literally not. NV is my least favorite actual Fallout game.

                >1 and 2 can be compared
                Yeah. And they have been compared. However, those comparisons were not made out of moronic blind tribalism in which people think you NEED to shit on one title or another, because you don't understand what the actual subject of comparison is.

                I literally fricking grew up on MBV and NMA back in the late 90's, child. The point you are still COMPLETELY unable to comprehend yourself, being a 7th gen moronic console baby, is that people can compare F1 and 2 and come to the conclusion that they are both genuinely great, despite each having some minor flaws.
                I could literally go on for hours comparing the weak and strong points of the two classic games - I used to do that, a lot. But again: the point entirely flying over your head, is that both Fo1 and 2 were always treasured and beloved games. Because despite both having major issues of their own, they are FUNDAMENTALLY GREAT, the good always massively outweighs the bad.
                That is what the consensus always was, before you absolute fricking shitstains started to flood the internet, desperately trying to clutch any excuse to continue defending beth's piece of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you just completely forget what this shit was about?

                No it would just be people bickering about how f2 ruined everything f1 built. You wouldn’t be in the conversation of course since youre a nvgay and the only reason you even know about the franchise is because Bethesda saved it from the grave

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Did you just completely forget what this shit was about?
                No, I remember this discussion fundamentally being about you being an underaged homosexual, literally half the age of the first Fallout game. I do remember you starting this discussion with the point that because your braindead console kid has never heard of Fallout until Fo4 came out, that must mean Fallout 1 and 2 never had any traction. Because again: those games were made long before you were born. Something you consistently keep on proving.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No this is about you thinking that people finding that f1 is better or worse than f2 is because of those pesky Bethesda bad actors. You’re a nvgay no matter how you try to argue otherwise. People don’t act that way, saying f2 is worse than f1 and vice visa isn’t some revisionist history, people will compare them and they will have gripes because their only point of comparison is 2 games, they will say that one game is shitter than the other. They also go in different directions with different tones. The “it doesn’t matter what flaws they have because they’re both great actually” is birthed out of a need to defend what they represent AKA a time before Bethesda. You can like both but the idea that everyone will like both is born out of delusion

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You’re a nvgay no matter how you try to argue otherwise.
                You keep desperately telling that to yourself. How is that working out for you, kid?
                Does that make up for the fact that you are here purely because you can't handle that people shit on the game that defined your early childhood?
                Does that make up for the guilt you feel when you pretend to know anything about the original games, despite them being twice your own age?
                Does that make you forget that your started this discussion by literally saying that Fo games didn't even matter until Fo3 came in?

                >The “it doesn’t matter what flaws they have because they’re both great actually” is birthed out of a need to defend what they represent
                Yeah, they represent good game design and good writing.
                Which is something that is well worth defending.

                And that is ultimately the thing you will never understand. To you - as you literally just explained: People need to shit on something to make them feel better about their subjective preferences. That is literally the only state of "discussion" that you can ever comprehend.

                You don't understand that people shit on Fo3 because it's bad. You will never understand this concept, to you, purely subjective personal feeling is the only thing that exists, and anyone ever arguing about something has to be like you.

                It's fricking HILARIOUS that you don't understand this. It's fricking hilarious that you STRAIGHT UP ADMIT that you do no comprehend why would someone say "Fo1 and 2 are great games" outside of it being some kind of tribalistic defense.
                That it does not fricking connect in your brain that game quality and game judgement, should be linked. I don't think you understand the concept of quality at all.

                And it's ESPECIALLY fricking hilarious when you accuse someone of being FNV fan because he both recognizes that Fo1 and 2 were good, but also remembers that they were both widely beloved.

                You are priceless, kid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Look I know you’re having a spastic villain monologue but again this is in the context that Bethesda didn’t buy the fallout IP, people will be comparing 1 and 2 incessantly and debating it because that’s what fanbases do. The fact you don’t find it possible that people will divided that one is better than the other even given the fact they have blatantly different tones speaks more of your tribalism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Next time, when you are proven to be a brain-dead moron, just stop replying. Leave the thread, wait for another one to appear. Or at least break the reply chain for a while, hope that everyone forgets about what you posted.

                It's a lot more dignified than this shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It feels like you’re just trying to escape the conversation because you having a huge melty and coming back to earth that your claim is moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It feels like you’re just trying to escape the conversation
                Are you actually talking to yourself now?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clearly replying to you moron. Anyways you’re the one going on constantly about how I should end the conversation so you can save face

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Anyways you’re the one going on constantly about how I should end the conversation so you can save face
                Again, at this point you are literally just talking about yourself. What is the point of this?

                I will never stop being completely fascinated by just how broken beth drones are. Genuinely, you people are both the most fascinating and horrifying thing I've ever seen in my life, and I've literally lived through war.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lived through war
                No wonder you speak like a schizo spaz, you have literal mental damage why are NVgays always like this. They say it’s impossible to think one classic fallout is better than the other or to dislike the direction one goes in. They think everything is a Bethesda conspiracy, they speak like anime villains. All forms of unwell

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You could actually go and read and address this:

                >You’re a nvgay no matter how you try to argue otherwise.
                You keep desperately telling that to yourself. How is that working out for you, kid?
                Does that make up for the fact that you are here purely because you can't handle that people shit on the game that defined your early childhood?
                Does that make up for the guilt you feel when you pretend to know anything about the original games, despite them being twice your own age?
                Does that make you forget that your started this discussion by literally saying that Fo games didn't even matter until Fo3 came in?

                >The “it doesn’t matter what flaws they have because they’re both great actually” is birthed out of a need to defend what they represent
                Yeah, they represent good game design and good writing.
                Which is something that is well worth defending.

                And that is ultimately the thing you will never understand. To you - as you literally just explained: People need to shit on something to make them feel better about their subjective preferences. That is literally the only state of "discussion" that you can ever comprehend.

                You don't understand that people shit on Fo3 because it's bad. You will never understand this concept, to you, purely subjective personal feeling is the only thing that exists, and anyone ever arguing about something has to be like you.

                It's fricking HILARIOUS that you don't understand this. It's fricking hilarious that you STRAIGHT UP ADMIT that you do no comprehend why would someone say "Fo1 and 2 are great games" outside of it being some kind of tribalistic defense.
                That it does not fricking connect in your brain that game quality and game judgement, should be linked. I don't think you understand the concept of quality at all.

                And it's ESPECIALLY fricking hilarious when you accuse someone of being FNV fan because he both recognizes that Fo1 and 2 were good, but also remembers that they were both widely beloved.

                You are priceless, kid.

                But I know you won't, you will run away from the conversation again. Which is why I find it so amusing that your last posts were about how I "ran away from the conversation", and about how I "can't let go" despite you being the one who just had to come back and start raving random nonsense, an hour after the conversation ended, just because you literally cannot let go.

                As I said: there is no limit to how broken beth's fans are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Address what? Youre utterly delusional if you think liking f1 means you have to like f2 and even more so when in a vacuum and that that though process is a Bethesda conspiracy. Not that I need to call you delusional when your writing style clearly shows you got some fricking screws loose

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Address what?
                Literally every point I made there, kiddo. I know that you won't, in fact CAN'T, but what makes me so puzzled is why you yourself are so determined to draw attention to that.

                Every new post you make is just screaming "I lost the discussion, and I'm literally to broken to let go, please pay attention to my failure".

                When really: just bowing out would completely resolve the issue in the first place. I've already forgotten about you by the time you decided you need to come back for more humiliation.

                Losing an argument is one thing. That shit happens.
                Returning two hours later just to make everyone acutely aware of just how much of a sore and broken loser you are is another.
                Why?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love nvgays, you poke and prod them and they have complete breakdowns, that is seemingly fueled by war ptsd in this case

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Turn your entire personality into a video game as a teen
                >Go to war, fight for Israel, get PTSD
                >Come back and everyone who defends your personality-game is now a troony
                >Have endless meltdowns that honestly wouldn’t hurt to have the FBI look into considering he’s a violent unhinged PTSD veteran with presumably access to guns

                Holy frick how funny would it be if we got some guy arrested over how mad he is at Bethesda

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > I'm just going to post your own words here:
                >Thank god you’ll die decades before me. Thank god thank god.
                >There is nothing I can actually add to make this reflect any worse at you, really. Nobody can prove that Beth drones are completely deranged psycho's with some of the worst and most fricked-up attachement issues in the history better than a beth drone will

                I’m just gonna post your words here then if you wanna pluck at that string, you non thinking ahead little embarrassment:

                >What? People wouldn’t compare f1 to f2 because of 3 even though this whole situation started with the hypothetical that Bethesda never bought the ip.
                What the fricking shit are you raving about? And you said that I'm not making sense?

                >Again you’re proving you’re a nvgay
                I'm literally not. NV is my least favorite actual Fallout game.

                >1 and 2 can be compared
                Yeah. And they have been compared. However, those comparisons were not made out of moronic blind tribalism in which people think you NEED to shit on one title or another, because you don't understand what the actual subject of comparison is.

                I literally fricking grew up on MBV and NMA back in the late 90's, child. The point you are still COMPLETELY unable to comprehend yourself, being a 7th gen moronic console baby, is that people can compare F1 and 2 and come to the conclusion that they are both genuinely great, despite each having some minor flaws.
                I could literally go on for hours comparing the weak and strong points of the two classic games - I used to do that, a lot. But again: the point entirely flying over your head, is that both Fo1 and 2 were always treasured and beloved games. Because despite both having major issues of their own, they are FUNDAMENTALLY GREAT, the good always massively outweighs the bad.
                That is what the consensus always was, before you absolute fricking shitstains started to flood the internet, desperately trying to clutch any excuse to continue defending beth's piece of shit.

                The juxtaposition of these two posts right after each other is fricking PRICELESS.

                Again, just let beth drones stew for a while, you don't really need to say anything, they'll show you how broken they are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The juxtaposition of these two posts right after each other is fricking PRICELESS.

                That’s literally your own post oh my god you can’t be this dumb hahaha

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s literally your own post oh my god you can’t be this dumb hahaha
                I was going to say it's not every day you get to watch a full mental breakdown in real time, but then I realize beth drones literally do this shit on daily basis here nowdays.

                To be frank, as utterly deranged this shit is, it's still peanuts to the shit that was happening pre-Starfield release.
                But again... just what the hell do Bethesda games do to people, man? I will never, ever stop being in awe about this.
                The actual shittiness of their games just does not begin to explain how fricked up their defense force are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s your exact post quoted back to you confused little suicide watch. Have another glass.

                You keep desperately telling that to yourself. How is that working out for you, kid?
                Does that make up for the fact that you are here purely because you can't handle that people shit on the game that defined your early childhood?
                Does that make up for the guilt you feel when you pretend to know anything about the original games, despite them being twice your own age?
                Does that make you forget that your started this discussion by literally saying that Fo games didn't even matter until Fo3 came in?

                >The “it doesn’t matter what flaws they have because they’re both great actually” is birthed out of a need to defend what they represent
                Yeah, they represent good game design and good writing.
                Which is something that is well worth defending.

                And that is ultimately the thing you will never understand. To you - as you literally just explained: People need to shit on something to make them feel better about their subjective preferences. That is literally the only state of "discussion" that you can ever comprehend.

                You don't understand that people shit on Fo3 because it's bad. You will never understand this concept, to you, purely subjective personal feeling is the only thing that exists, and anyone ever arguing about something has to be like you.

                It's fricking HILARIOUS that you don't understand this. It's fricking hilarious that you STRAIGHT UP ADMIT that you do no comprehend why would someone say "Fo1 and 2 are great games" outside of it being some kind of tribalistic defense.
                That it does not fricking connect in your brain that game quality and game judgement, should be linked. I don't think you understand the concept of quality at all.

                And it's ESPECIALLY fricking hilarious when you accuse someone of being FNV fan because he both recognizes that Fo1 and 2 were good, but also remembers that they were both widely beloved.

                You are priceless, kid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s your exact post quoted back to you confused little suicide watch
                I take it back. This is getting beyond even the worst shit I've seen in Starfield pre-release threads.

                I am at a genuine loss for words here.
                What exactly do you think you are achieving by posting my words again?
                I cannot fricking follow your train of... can we call this "thoughts" at this point?

                Is it just because I did it earlier, to point out the absolute unhinged desperation of someone literally coping with "thank god I'm going to die later than you do" as part of his response to Fo3 being criticized?

                Is this echopraxia?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I am at a genuine loss for words here.

                Yeah I bet you are you mentally challenged homosexual. You fricking tantrum throwing lost-boy of video game culture wars. Go shoot another unarmed civilian and pull a 988 or whatever you military boys call clocking out with your own gun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah I bet you are you mentally challenged homosexual. You fricking tantrum throwing lost-boy of video game culture wars. Go shoot another unarmed civilian and pull a 988 or whatever you military boys call clocking out with your own gun.
                You see: this is the kind of shit actually does warrant just re-posting, for everyone to truly appreciate.
                This is how you are coping with people criticizing Fo3. There is no point or argument, just desperate endless onslaught of projection and grasping to irrelevant straws - to a point where you are drawing analogies between criticizing Fo3 and actually killing people.

                This is just pure demonstration of broken, desperate anger and derranged coping, a product of a mind that cannot control emotions even a little, but also cannot formulate anything resembling an actual argument. Hence you still clutching to me mentioning having lived through some shit being the sole linchpin of your... uh, post. I can't fricking call it a point, because there is no point.

                I'm explaining this, because you clearly didn't understood it the first time I did this, and thought that somehow, it means copy-pasting ANY of your opponents posts somehow constitutes a counter-argument or counter-evidence.
                Which in and off itself is priceless, by the way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What a pathetic and bizarre web of projection. I’m don’t even care anymore but if you’re interested, save your posts to read when you’ve calmed down and you’ll realize a lot of ugly things about yourself. For one, you talk into a mirror at others, which is why people immediately found you pathetic and laughable, you have zero control over your emotions to the point it’s feminine, and basically even if you were right, which you aren’t, and you’re slowly realizing that which is why you’re so inconsolable, people STILL wouldn’t want to listen to you because you’re deranged. Frothing at the mouth people might even call it.

                But hey maybe you need to keep getting dog piled on like this until you learn a better way to behave.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you have zero control over your emotions
                Again, is this echopraxia?
                You are literally just repeating what I say verbatim, kid. And the fact that you don't realize how that is a problem is just... so fricking disturbing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They think everything is a Bethesda conspiracy, they speak like anime villains

                When you said that I pictured his entire rant as an anime villian in a flowing cape and like a magicians top hat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What? People wouldn’t compare f1 to f2 because of 3 even though this whole situation started with the hypothetical that Bethesda never bought the ip.
                What the fricking shit are you raving about? And you said that I'm not making sense?

                >Again you’re proving you’re a nvgay
                I'm literally not. NV is my least favorite actual Fallout game.

                >1 and 2 can be compared
                Yeah. And they have been compared. However, those comparisons were not made out of moronic blind tribalism in which people think you NEED to shit on one title or another, because you don't understand what the actual subject of comparison is.

                I literally fricking grew up on MBV and NMA back in the late 90's, child. The point you are still COMPLETELY unable to comprehend yourself, being a 7th gen moronic console baby, is that people can compare F1 and 2 and come to the conclusion that they are both genuinely great, despite each having some minor flaws.
                I could literally go on for hours comparing the weak and strong points of the two classic games - I used to do that, a lot. But again: the point entirely flying over your head, is that both Fo1 and 2 were always treasured and beloved games. Because despite both having major issues of their own, they are FUNDAMENTALLY GREAT, the good always massively outweighs the bad.
                That is what the consensus always was, before you absolute fricking shitstains started to flood the internet, desperately trying to clutch any excuse to continue defending beth's piece of shit.

                God damn I’m so glad NMA is fricking dead. Breeding ground for the saddest humans alive. This is the type of mental illness that propels New Vegas fandom, which makes this whole speech bizarre when you consider Bethesda games are the most beloved in the franchise and have made millions of people extremely happy. Thank god you’ll die decades before me. Thank god thank god.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >which makes this whole speech bizarre when you consider Bethesda games are the most beloved in the franchise and have made millions of people extremely happy. Thank god you’ll die decades before me. Thank god thank god.
                Beth drones, every one.
                Never. Fricking. Fail. To AMAZE.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hahaaaaaa cry pussy, they objectively have. God what a tantrum throwing little b***h. I’m so glad that even on Ganker this level of delusion is extremely rare, don’t ever act like this kids.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >God what a tantrum throwing little b***h
                I'm just going to post your own words here:
                >Thank god you’ll die decades before me. Thank god thank god.
                There is nothing I can actually add to make this reflect any worse at you, really. Nobody can prove that Beth drones are completely deranged psycho's with some of the worst and most fricked-up attachement issues in the history: better than a beth drone will.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > I'm just going to post your own words here:
                >Thank god you’ll die decades before me. Thank god thank god.
                >There is nothing I can actually add to make this reflect any worse at you, really. Nobody can prove that Beth drones are completely deranged psycho's with some of the worst and most fricked-up attachement issues in the history better than a beth drone will

                I’m just gonna post your words here then if you wanna pluck at that string, you non thinking ahead little embarrassment:

                >What? People wouldn’t compare f1 to f2 because of 3 even though this whole situation started with the hypothetical that Bethesda never bought the ip.
                What the fricking shit are you raving about? And you said that I'm not making sense?

                >Again you’re proving you’re a nvgay
                I'm literally not. NV is my least favorite actual Fallout game.

                >1 and 2 can be compared
                Yeah. And they have been compared. However, those comparisons were not made out of moronic blind tribalism in which people think you NEED to shit on one title or another, because you don't understand what the actual subject of comparison is.

                I literally fricking grew up on MBV and NMA back in the late 90's, child. The point you are still COMPLETELY unable to comprehend yourself, being a 7th gen moronic console baby, is that people can compare F1 and 2 and come to the conclusion that they are both genuinely great, despite each having some minor flaws.
                I could literally go on for hours comparing the weak and strong points of the two classic games - I used to do that, a lot. But again: the point entirely flying over your head, is that both Fo1 and 2 were always treasured and beloved games. Because despite both having major issues of their own, they are FUNDAMENTALLY GREAT, the good always massively outweighs the bad.
                That is what the consensus always was, before you absolute fricking shitstains started to flood the internet, desperately trying to clutch any excuse to continue defending beth's piece of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What kind of mods? Bugfixes? coomer mods?
                90% of my very good karma NCR playthrough was basically just murderhoboing around the map and dealing with bugs, with the other 10% being talking to people and doing quests.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How do you manage to have that many hours in the game? The main game is only 20-40 hours if you include side quests.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, (obviously), but replayability. I've modded my game to hell and back; not downloaded mods, my own. My personal mod has grown in 10 years (unreleased). I've added interiors to almost every location in the game and made huge changes/balances over the years. So it's always a fresh experience. Also got loads of randomized shit determined by scripts at the start of the game (E.G. some caverns will have paths blocked by rocks on one playthrough; maybe a safe will be in a place one playthrough and not the next, etc.) More changes like that than I could possibly even list in this post. Game was a great foundation to expand on and I did.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see.
                I usually only play through a game once (sometimes twice) and the only mods that I install are usually just bugfixes or coom mods.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how many of those hours in did you troon out?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is a stockpile maintained by a quartermaster who you can buy shit from. You are unable to access the backroom, but it is filled with crates and shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing in-game supports
                They literally say that they have people going out and trading for supplies, why are you acting like the Brotherhood wouldn’t be able to do that? Do you think they wouldn’t be able to trade random shit they scavenged to find themselves?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and in Fallout 3 they literally say they trade with the caravans for supplies. You gonna apply that same logic to both games, or just your favorite?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice deflection homosexual, but they don’t show that shit happening whereas in NV they do. And no one caravan hanging out outside of town isn’t enough to supply everyone. NV shows developed trade routes and companies and suppliers capable of doing the shit that is required whereas 3 just has ruins and people struggling to survive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't remember NV having that so it must not have done it's job. I remember it being the same shit as 3. Probably had to scour the logs to find information that makes it seem more realistic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't remember NV having that so it must not have done it's job
                You mean like you don’t remember the Brotherhood having scouts? Like I said stop coping and play the game, you literally go to a trading outpost and see Brahmin pens and one of the major players in the Mojave are the Crimson Caravan Company.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't play the game you moron. Those brotherhood scouts were sent out by McNamara to gather intel, not supplies. Holy shit you are a dumb fricker LMFAO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but the argument wasn't that the scouts were sent out to gather supplies, but that NV does have Brotherhood scouts ingame. And he's right.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn't play the game you moron. Those brotherhood scouts were sent out by McNamara to gather intel
                And they’re proof that their are others doing shit, stop trying to move the goalpost you pathetic homosexual, you had to start double replying and everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but it's still just one brahmin stopping at a town to supply them. It's not advanced really. Like just because they had a location you are happy? Capital wasteland HAS to have a caravan camp for you to be happy?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The implication shows that they have a network, that their is a thriving trade network that moves through the area and trades often whereas 3 doesn’t have that, there is no centralized trading hub or major groups that make sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because 3 is an irradiated wasteland. It's a largely abandoned part of the USA. That's the point and theme of the game. It doesn't mean every square foot of the continent spanning USA is empty bro. There are not 300 mil people in the usa anymore there are way less and thus some areas are nearly empty surviving on scrap and small amounts of trading. Not to mention all the wildlife to kill and eat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the most unrealistic part of the fallout franchise is how there are so many American minorities in the games despite being a post apocalypse where the population centers that the minorities cluster in get obliterated.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which makes no sense when the game is set 200 years after the war. Again these have all been articulated decades ago at this point, there is no reasonable explanation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It makes sense. First of all the time that radiation lingers around is a scaling factor. Don't mother fricking tell me you are gonna throw a fit that radiation lingers for 1000 years in fallout but irl it's like 20. b***h it's a scaling factor just pretend it is higher you pedantic FRICK

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Um no I won't accept that hehe :P. The other games in the IP show humans rebuilding with radiation only being a problem in very specific and obvious areas.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah because 3 is an irradiated wasteland. It's a largely abandoned part of the USA.
                So was the wasteland in 1 but it still showed how people survived
                >It doesn't mean every square foot of the continent spanning USA is empty bro
                Never said or implied this
                >are nearly empty surviving on scrap and small amounts of trading. Not to mention all the wildlife to kill and eat
                Then show the people of Megaton doing that, places like Klamath in 2 could, same with Shady Sands in 1.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In defense I'd FO3's base setting, I can see the argument that Fallout's fantastical version of radiation combined with DC getting hit with a bajillion dirty nukes could make the area uninhabitable for a very long period of time. I could buy that it was only fairly recently resettled.

                Of course I think Megaton has been around since just after the bombs fell, so that doesn't work. But I think you could make the '200 years later' premise function with some forethought.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Of course I think Megaton has been around since just after the bombs fell, so that doesn't work. But I think you could make the '200 years later' premise function with some forethought.
                Actually no.
                Ignoring how utterly, insanely moronic Bethesda writing is for a while: Megaton hasn't been around for very long. The game never actually explains WHY it was settled, but it is stated that it was only really build up in the last 40 years or so. The walls themselves were supposedly build in like 2240, that is 30 years before the game takes place.
                Everything else about it - as is tradition in beth games - is beyond moronic. Again, they never explain why people moved in there, they don't even have a fricking explanation why it's build out of fricking airplanes, they literally say something about salvaging those parts from a "nearby" airplane graveyard. You know, that famous downtown Washington DC airplane graveyard (national capitols being known for having a lot of plane graveyards thanks to their non-existent land-value) that also does not exist in the game, and there is literally no possible way they have hauled those massive, multi-ton parts in from somewhere off the map.

                Megaton is actually deep in how absolutely moronic it is in concept and in execution. They are layers upon layers of stupidity in there, it's a fascinating trainwreck.

                But it is a recent settlement none the less, and the game does generally point out that capitol wasteland was largely uninhabited in general until recently. The oldest other settlement the game actually mentions is the Rivet City Research outpost, apparently established in like 2237, which is the very lose excuse for BoS and Enclave taking interest in the area.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are caravans scattered pretty liberally over NV, and I'm pretty sure you're scripted to run into one being ambushed by Legion if you take the newbie route through Nipton.

                Honestly there's a decent chunk of game dedicated to the trade situation in NV. Heck Gunderson at the Ultra Luxe rants about cutting off their beef supply for trying to eat his son, and you have all the quests surrounding Cass and the Crimson Caravan. The Mojave Outpost has a couple quests just making sure pests are kept off the roads to keep caravans safe and you see all the pack barahmin piled out in front of the main building because the NCR won't give anyone the go-ahead to leave.

                You'd have to be kinda blind to miss it tbh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And NV is significantly more populated than DC. You're point is moot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really? You said NV doesn't properly explain or expand on caravans and I provided evidence it does.

                FO3 has some lipservice to trade but if you dig in and try to actually figure out what is going where there's not really any info. There's no communities producing surpluses of food or goods. Canterbury is a trading town but there's not really a trade post there. Megaton ostensibly produces salvage but from what? NoVac had Repconn as a nearly bottomless pit of stuff like fission batteries and aerotech parts but the closest thing to Megaton is a raider infested supermarket. Arefu has a similar problem; a settlement with nothing to actually settle around (which sucks because shanties on upraised highways is legit a good aesthetic).

                Fallout 3's setting is skin deep. It sucks because it's cool and I like a lot of what the writers wanted to do, but they fumbled the ball and failed to give their setting any real legs to stand on because they didn't think things through properly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Idk I mean the only argument you have is muh food and you just refuse to accept the metric frick ton of scrap and animals and shit around DC counts because reasons. The funny thing is I like NV better than 3 too.

                >Yeah because 3 is an irradiated wasteland. It's a largely abandoned part of the USA.
                So was the wasteland in 1 but it still showed how people survived
                >It doesn't mean every square foot of the continent spanning USA is empty bro
                Never said or implied this
                >are nearly empty surviving on scrap and small amounts of trading. Not to mention all the wildlife to kill and eat
                Then show the people of Megaton doing that, places like Klamath in 2 could, same with Shady Sands in 1.

                Fallout 1 is barely about realism. It's more about the vibes and feeling of the place. It also employs dramatic story telling with the death claw. Funny how it's so small and yet smarter than a boring story about food supplies. It's really barely about realism and more about atmosphere and dramatic story telling.

                Also even 2 and New Vegas is like this... that's the funniest part about all of this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refuse to accept the metric frick ton of scrap and animals and shit around DC counts because reasons
                Subsistence hunting mole rats and stealing copper wiring out of bombed out buildings doesn't really constitute an economy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know! It's post-apocalypse.

                Because while not focusing on realism it still knows that a post apocalyptic setting needs to show how people subsist. The genre is all about survival and finding a way to live another day and someday rebuild. So naturally showing how people do that is important to establishing stakes and an understanding of where people are at.

                It literally only shows wells and tiny farms. Hardly something to get your pantyhose in a bunch over.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t argue so has to attempt to trivialize
                Pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because while not focusing on realism it still knows that a post apocalyptic setting needs to show how people subsist. The genre is all about survival and finding a way to live another day and someday rebuild. So naturally showing how people do that is important to establishing stakes and an understanding of where people are at.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't think 2 and NV employs good story telling?
                >boring story about food supplies
                If you played the game you should know that those "boring" stories lead to some pretty neat quests. I'm not even the biggest defender of 2 and NV, but in Fallout the first encounter with the Deathclaw also started from a simple and mundane investigation job from a caravan boss.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think 2 or NV is about the farms so much. 2 has a bunch of different disparate communities with their own "way" of surviving. Vault City are bigoted slavers. NCR are more open but at the same time not much better than Vault City even if they are anti enslavement. New Reno is crime ridden to the max. The other smaller communities are either barren, crime ridden, or fought over by the big players. And then San Fran is a goofy ass place. Idk not that built on realism tbh.

                NV is all about Vegas. It's all about lavish luxury in the middle of the wasteland. I think it just had to have civilization around because of that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All the places Megaton could ostensibly pull scrap from are infested with raiders and super mutants. And the mutants from 87 have been around for a long goddamn time by the start of the game; you can't reasonably enter DC as a scav without getting your head blown off by a raiding party or a mutie. Or without getting eaten by a ghoul.

                >hunting
                The only animals your average waster could reasonably handle in a fight in FO3 are ants and molerats and we never see them gather in very large number. A molerat nest has like, eight animals in it maybe? Shit, there's even a molerat ranch in NV that raises them for food but nothing like that in 3. Bethesda's worldbuilding is half baked, has been since Oblivion, and it makes it hard to sell the fantasy they want to put forward when so much as squinting once in a while is enough for the cracks in their narrative design to show up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they don't show that shiw happening whereas in NV they do
                Caravans in Fallout 3 travel on a specific route and you can encounter them in the game world. They stop at certain locations. There are several caravans. They are independent traders just like how you had independent trading companies in NV (the ones that got sacked by CC and Van Graffs)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are not "just like" them though. There is no trading company, infrastructure, farmland, trading hub, nothing is actually realized in the game world presented. That's the issue.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It could just be off map dude like chill

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so the world building is bad and the criticism is valid. No more discussion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No dude. World building is having actual impact craters for nukes dropped on DC which 3 has. World building is having underground tunnels connecting inaccessible parts together because rubble blocks the way. World building is many different things not exclusively muh food and muh logistics company

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >World building is many different things not exclusively muh food and muh logistics company
                Okay but in that respect and many others they do a shit job. What is your point? That is what is being criticized. Their nonsensical placement of human settlements and the logistics of how they interact. These elements are rather crucial when the main plot has to do with solving a water crisis that is not really conveyed through the world building.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It falls apart after the enclave kidnap you and you defeat Eden I admit that. Nobody not even fans of 3 will deny that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You only see one outside of any settlement at any time. And where do they get their shit from? Where are they headquartered? Where do they even come from? Most of the settlements don’t have a steady supply of food and rely on trading who is supplying the traders with food? Again this is the shit everyone is talking about there is no actual cohesion or sense, people are there but they don’t have a source.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But that's telling not showing. I thought that was a cardinal sin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You see the caravans arriving at Megaton, don't you? That's showing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't remember how the BoS expended almost all of their supplies defending Helios ONE against the NCR
                what are they gonna trade for their stuff when they have nothing? There's nothing to trade in Hidden Valley. They are running out of everything which is why their air filtration system is FUBAR and they have to send you, the player, out to get parts for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what are they gonna trade for their stuff when they have nothing?
                Nothing. They'll die out. It's a massive fricking plot point, you literally get to decide if the chapter will survive or not by deciding whenever to negotiate peace between them and the NCR. That is LITERALLY the whole driving force behind the BoS storyline in the game. What the frick is your point?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >currier
                please redeem the google translate sirs

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They raid caravans

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They exchange low tier shit like recycled batteries and maybe things they scavenge from killing raiders and scavenging old buildings.
              You even get this shown to you when you're given an ammo crate after earning enough rep with them, you're explicitly told that paladins consider using recycled energy cells as pleb-tier even if they're almost the same.
              Hell, in fallout 1 you can get a free power armor because the security head paladin throws a hissy fit over not "lookig good" and you basically steal parts from his locker and fix the armor yourself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the security head paladin throws a hissy fit over not "looking good" and you basically steal parts from his locker and fix the armor yourself
                It's more that Kyle botched the repair job, so Michael won't give him the part until he redoes the repair properly. Even after getting the part, the Vault Dweller has to repair the power armour herself.
                If you destroyed Mariposa first, then the Brotherhood of Steel are just a source of free exp for telling them about it and a free power armour for fixing the botch job.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Where exactly do they get there food from
        You literally see veronica at a food vendor. They send procurement specialists to go to vendors, acquire supply shipments, set up a dead drop, and send a team to pick it up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You literally see veronica at a food vendor.
          she just waits there until the player either kills her or gets her killed.
          >They send procurement specialists to go to vendors, acquire supply shipments, set up a dead drop, and send a team to pick it up.
          not in the game

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >she just waits there until the player either kills her or gets her killed
            She’s still there and tell you exactly what she is doing there, stop coping
            >not in the game
            “Nu uh” isn’t an argument stop acting like a toddler.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >game tells instead of shows
              >still not in the game
              I accept your consession

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except they do show you? Veronica is one and you see scouts and shit in the wasteland, maybe instead of making up copes you can play the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you see scouts
                no you don't, uninstall your mods

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said play the game moron
                https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brotherhood_scout_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)#:~:text=The%20Brotherhood%20scouts%20are%20three,faction's%20settlements%2C%20following%20their%20movements.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would like to point out to you that this guy claimed that he has 800 hours in Fallout New Vegas, and totally isn't a desperate beth drone at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you aren't even replying to the same person you think you are. You are literally a schizo confirmed LMFAO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why am I not suprised that Fo3 fanboys literally can't comprehend basic text?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >only three scouts that pop up when you're doing "Still in the Dark" quest
                thanks for proving me right anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there are no scouts
                >no there aren’t
                >posts proof
                >uhhh…. It’s not enough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                all they do is stand in a single area and vomit dialouge at you anon, they don't move around like the caravans in 3 like you said they do, i still accept your concession

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there are not scouts
                >yes there are *posts proof*
                >moves goalpost
                >gets called out
                >moves goalpost again
                >well actually I won
                lol, pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The scouts are like the caravans in 3
                >no they arent
                >yes they are: posts three npc's that don't do anything

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t argue
                >moves goalpost up strawman to cope
                It’s amazing how desperate you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t argue
                >moves goalpost up strawman to cope
                It’s amazing how desperate you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so btfo he has to copy post to cope
                Absolutely mindbroken, bethesdrones really are pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There are no scouts.
                >"Yes there are."
                >Those don't count, I win.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t argue
                >moves goalpost up strawman to cope
                It’s amazing how desperate you are.

                stop same gayging

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are at least three different people making fun of you kid.
                I want to remind everyone that YOU posted "totally yours" screenshot of steam profile with 800 hours in NV to totally prove that you are not a Fo3 fanboy moron.
                And in those 800 hours you totally have in the game, you never actually encountered the BoS scouts.

                There is a reason why half of the thread is making fun of you. Also, when are you going to get around to replying to:

                >Not my fault that your reading comprehension is less than a literal child.
                It is your fault for straight up lying though.

                Let's take a look at your previous posts, shall we?
                >Nothing in-game supports any of those theories though, in the same way that nothing in Fallout 3 supports any of the theories regarding what Megaton eats.
                First of all: we - again, PLAY THE FRICKING GAME - encounter Veronica literally securing a deal on food supplies. We also get to see brotherhood, we get to trade with their quarter master, who has large amount of supplies of ammunition and other valuables.
                The entire storyline further literally evolves around the subject of BoS having enough supplies for NOW, but clearly running out in the near horizon. That is LITERALLY THE DRIVING FORCE OF THE THEIR STORYLINE. Something you would know if you spend half the time you spend searching for other people's profile's and their time-count on FNV actually playing, FNV.
                As for means of getting them in and out: have you ever heard of this interesting, sci-fi concept that the Fallout games introduced, called an exo-skeleton armor? I wonder which faction is - most iconically - associated (and showed) to use this outlandish technology that allows you to do things like carry substantially heavy loads...
                More importantly, you fricking unironically said that this is the same exact thing as the complaint leveled about Megaton and the economy of Fo3.
                Which leads me to asking you AGAIN the same questions posed here:
                >What do we actually learn about economy of FNV, and about the situation of BoS?
                >And what do we actually learn about the economy of Fo3 and the economy of Megaton?

                Can you answer those questions without pissing all over yourself again, child?

                kid?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not everyone is as pathetic as you morons believe it or not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are at least three different people making fun of you kid.
                I want to remind everyone that YOU posted "totally yours" screenshot of steam profile with 800 hours in NV to totally prove that you are not a Fo3 fanboy moron.
                And in those 800 hours you totally have in the game, you never actually encountered the BoS scouts.

                There is a reason why half of the thread is making fun of you. Also, when are you going to get around to replying to:
                [...]
                kid?

                sorry I've run out of my troony hormone regulators and my testosterone is spiking

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >waaaaah trannies
                So you have GankerX good to know, that means that you’ve most likely been samegayging.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are a literal phone poster

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So are you, only you’re also a samegay that has to edit replies after getting btfo. And I was wrong, you have kuroba.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he admits to same gayging

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ESL outs himself
                Do you have poor reading comprehension raj?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The guy you’re arguing with is a moron but this is weaker than the megaton trade routes and hunters cope dude.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t try to come back around and argue you pathetic homosexual. You said there weren’t any scouts and I proved you wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I live in your head rent free now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >samegay reveals himself and gets called out
                >admits it’s him
                >uhhhh… r-rent free
                You should stop crying and think before you post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >consneeds argument
                now take your troony pills

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing worse than a samegay throwing a tantrum after getting called out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree, you should take your troony pills and cry to your furry discord server

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s way too specific to be anything but projection, why so many Freudian slips?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no u

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >starts projecting
                >gets called out
                >doesn’t deny it
                You’re the only one taking about troony shit, getting hyper specific, and bringing up discord out of nowhere.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don’t see brotherhood scouts outside that one quest dude, your original reply implied you did and Veronica is clearly awol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure those scouts are always present. The reason you don't see them is because they're way the frick out of the way since, you know, they're trying not to be seen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They’re always there you just can’t interact with them before the quest
                >your original reply implied you did and Veronica is clearly awol.
                Stop making shit up, go be a pathetic samegay somewhere else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So when do they get supplies back to the bunker exactly?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They send out patrols to pick up dead drops.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                During the night when the sandstorms are up to hide their movement. You can actually go to Hidden Valley in the dead of night and encounter their patrols (and probably explode due to a gauss rifle shot).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve never seen this happen where can I find footage of this because every YouTube video that mentions brotherhood patrols are about a mod that adds patrols to the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can simply boot the game up and see it for yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they only patrol the surface of the hidden valley bunker, they never get to the dead drops.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >comparing the first major settlement the player encounters to what is literally some cucks hiding in a hole
        >and the cucks in the hole are still more thought out
        lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon hydroponics exist
        even nowadays, basically every asian family has a window in their kitchen dedicated to growing spring onion and chives

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you willing to assume there is an explanation for new vegas but not for fallout 3? it's the same thing every time.
          >thing in fo3 didn't make sense
          >shit game
          >thing doesn't make sense in nv
          >well actually it could be x or y or z made up bullshit thing that isn't actually in the game because of some extreme mental gymnastics i came up with but at least there is a farm

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean "what they ate" there's a noodle joint, a bar and a general store that's more than enough

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where does Mario poop?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Warp pipe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not supported by in-game evidence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fallout 1 had wells and farmland in several towns. They were nowhere near big enough to support towns of that size, but they showed that the developers considered it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So they bothered considering things like agriculture in previous games, so it isn't the same as "Where does Mario poop?".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no it isn't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they were, Shady sands has Brahmin, Crops, and well. That’s more than enough to sustain a small farming community.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >capital wasteland was hit by hundreds of nukes
      >the biggest crater was created by a dud
      What did Todd mean by this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It says in the game that the crater was already there the bomb just landed in it.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bethesda are the kings of environmental storytelling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just watched that video. I watched that homosexual's Skyrim waterfalls video too. His monotone voice is putting me in a trance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The river video was pretty cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Random dude recording himself with a mic in his hand and a green screen
      I hate this modern style of youtube video reviews that some are trying to go for. I can't really say why but I just do

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i feel like its this need to plaster their face all over the video, even though they dont add much to it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that homosexual nakeyjakey started that trend
        >I can't really say why but I just do
        they try too hard to be more "down to earth" and "relatable" that it just comes out as fake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just watched that video. I watched that homosexual's Skyrim waterfalls video too. His monotone voice is putting me in a trance.

      You can actually see all the places where the nukes that House didn't stop touched down. Both in the map and out of it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I want Nakey Jakey
      >mom: We have nakey jakey at home
      >:

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Fallout 3 and Dark Souls 2

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like lazily baiting Ganker

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love the open world, you still find new stuff after years. I was replaying to game last night and found an old woman who asked me to get a violin.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Sent out to secure resources for her people.
    > Hooks up with a homeless murder hobo on Jet carrying on about some Mary Sue casino chip.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that clip around the neck
      imagine actually modding your game because you need to cum

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >carrying on about some Mary Sue casino chip
      Items can be Mary Sues, and if it was it would’ve been on time or not needed to be delivered at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not a mary sue casino chip, it's a mcguffin, possibly the worst mcguffin in gaming history because all the significance that is put on it can be circumnavigated and proven to be just the farce of a shriveled testicle in a live forever machine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Give me the chip."
        >"Of course. Here you go."
        >Kill him for the NCR immediately after he finishes demonstrating his updated robots

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This mcguffin is unimportant and only serves to drive the true narrative
        That's what they exist to do

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a bad mcguffin because it can be ignored completely despite being what got the courier shot in the first place and drives the main story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's a bad mcguffin because it can be ignored completely
            As can be any plot point in any game with non-linear narrative.
            What is your fricking point? What are you raving about?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can complete the game without taking the chip and even without talking with Benny or killing him.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did New Vegas have more side-content than 3? I started replaying 3 and I think I got everything that isn't related to the main quest done in like 2 days (not counting DLC)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Did New Vegas have more side-content than 3?
      Yeah.
      Though when speaking of NV, it's not that clear cut what is side content and what is not, because of it's actual faction system. A lot of the side content is tied to some faction, and what relationship and standing with that faction and these factions relationship then define a lot of your options in context of the main story. Some quests can be purely side-quest in one run (if you don't really want to side with that faction), but become part of the main quest in another, if in that run you are trying to get them actively on your side.

      Also, unlike Fo3, quest chains are quite common. Fo3 has in general, one quest per location, and literally the only chained side-quest in the vanilla game I can remember is the literal fricking tutorial with the insufferable irish chick in Megaton.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well there's also "The Replicated Man" but, yeah questing in NV is done very well.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of the nu-fallout games, Fallout 3 is the best, hands down. Best atmosphere, best writing, best world building, and it was unafraid to portray the darkness of a post-apocalyptic world, unlike the Marvel-tier theme park rides that came after it.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poojets and contrarian morons are a plague infesting this board.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do New Vegas fans hate 3 so much?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the average normie remembers F3 so fondly but doesn’t give 2 shits about New Vegas

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Inon zur actually did a great job with 3 and NV

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know, what with all the daily shilling of Fallout 3 and demonizing of New Vegas for the past year or so, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Todd legitimately hired people to push this narrative here. I mean to remind you, he explicitly nuked NCR in the TV show adaption. He is that pathetic of a person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he explicitly nuked NCR in the TV show adaption. He is that pathetic of a person.
      I would have said that is probably just some marketer's shitty idea to drum up controversy, but then I remembered he fricking nuked Vvardenfell in Oblivion too... so... you might have a point, actually.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also nuked Morrowind too by exploding the Red Mountain

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Also nuked Morrowind too by exploding the Red Mountain
          Not wanting to be a pedanting butthole (actually, no, I fricking love being a pedantic butthole), but they didn't nuke Morrowind, they only nuked Vvardenfell. Vvardenfell is the island on which the game "Morrowind" takes place. The one with Red Mountain in the middle.
          "Morrowind" itself is a name of a larger province in which Vvardenfell is situated. The game got named after the province, because it rolls off the tongue a lot easier than Vvardenfell, but actually the province is much, much bigger and most of it wasn't really impacted by the Baar Dau colapse and subsequent explosion of the Red Mountain that badly.
          It's really only the island itself (you know, the specific area where the vanilla game takes place) that got wiped out.
          The rest of it, the parts that Morr fans don't care about, they got spared. Including Solstein, that one part Morrowind fans absolutely hated the most, and that was what we got to re-explore in Skyrim at one point: that shit was spared.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m genuine 30 y/o straight white man shitposter who thinks new vegas is worse than 3 and 4 for whatever that’s worth

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Its still kino.
    Yes, if you play it through TTW

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truthnuke
      Refer to the chart

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's enough seethe coming off this chart to keep me toasty over the winter, thanks for posting!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Of course I seethe, you post-Bethesda invaders keep talking as if you are part of the Fallout fandom. You aren't. You never were. You were always outsiders intruding into a space you were never welcome in. And 15 years on you still linger like a rancid fart.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Frontier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Extreme shitpost

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is this guys problem?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      typical paranoid old frick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it was the last survivor of an enslaved town, but it doesn't matter since he's another wasteland sniper taking potshots at you, Bethesda thought it was really cool so they made like three versions of him

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly does Megaton have to offer in trade? Scrap, so they're trading part of their city, or the ability to expand it? They don't have any sustainable source of food, what the super market that anyone can just stop by and clear out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Scrap, so they're trading part of their city, or the ability to expand it?
      I have an ever funnier question to ponder: Where did they get that scrap? Where exactly did they get the air parts again?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing you children need to learn is that popularity shouldn't define your personal taste, old world homies already figured this out

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly question; why is the new vegas fandom full of unironic schizos and moronic manchildren? I remember this one guy who kept popping up in my recommended videos named Schizo Elijah who had a father elijah "chad" head as a profile picture. All he did was make garbage legion videos, talk about tradcath shit, then he had a meltdown over being bullied on discord. Last I heard about him, he deleted his whole channel because he "found god".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because nu vegas is a very political game. And politics attracts mental illness like flies on shit. Not all nu vegas fans are unwell however, the good ones are the ones that can enjoy 3 and NV, they tend to run TTW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >schizo elijah
      I was in his discord, actually, and he's a complete homosexual. I almost felt bad for him at one point because he was relatively young at the time and didn't really know what to do with the sudden channel growth, but then he revealed more and more of his negative qualities. I was in a discord call with him once and a bunch of people were drinking, and he went off camera, got his shotgun, and proceeded to talk about how he wanted to kill himself with it.
      He was the epitome of the incel chudjak meme, and I imagine he is extremely similar to the majority of people who argue in these threads. He would also often argue with people in his discord channel over game design flaws in new vegas.
      Glad to see him go. I seriously doubt he found god though. More likely, he probably fell for the religious self-improvement sigma male meme and went full moronic into it. I'd give it about a year, maybe two, before he either kills himself or we see him on the news as the latest mass shooter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People get one interaction with the Crypto israelite Mr Joshua Graham and get so high on it it becomes their personality

      Same with the Gosling posters
      The Bickle posters
      The DFens posters
      The Chad posters

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cant beat the atmosphere though. The sense of dread, hopelessness, puke-green landscapes in place of mega cities, large metro systems infested by ghouls, the eerie feeling of visiting vaults and uncovering it's secrets.
    FO3 quests and locations are actually memorable, yet Ganker claims an empty desert, prospering cities (vegas strip), comicbook villains(house, yessman and legion) as central characters are better.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where do they shit? How is sewage system set up I must know. Same for you New Vegas fricks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >some fat dead guy made a youtube video critiquing poor worldbuilding and you are still mad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HOW DO THEY POOP AND WIPE THEY ASS WITHOUT TOILET PAPER TOILETS OR BIDETS THATS ALL I WANNA KNOW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      New Vegas does make a point to show functioning restrooms in most places so we can assume plumbing is a high priority for settlers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NV has functioning plumbing and you see outhouses at a lot of the homesteads.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >looting the same store for food for more than a decade
    lmao

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reading this thread made me remember why I hated new vegas when it first came out. The fans were so fricking obnoxious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NV Fans are sooo annoyingggg
      >troony VEGAS troony TRANNNS
      >REDDIT VEGAS REDDIT 2 FALLOUT 3 AND FALLOUT 1 GIGACHAD
      >Just play Fallout 4, it's better in everyway!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >new vegas trannies have nothing better to do than make this shit and dilate their neo veganas all day.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >say the deranged homosexuals that spam the same ass pained thread daily

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally proving my point, thank you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What point? That you homosexuals have been shitting up every Fallout thread for the last few years with said topics in every post? Yeah...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hating a single player game because of the fanbase

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bethesda games being kino
    lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only one of these is a yummy snack to munch on while playing a fun game. Three copies of Fallout 3 please! salt and Vinegar if you've got them :^)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FO, FO2, FO Neovegana
      coomer losers that frick plastic toys
      >FO3
      chads with wieners as thick as pringles cans
      >FO4
      a cool rubber fist with which to punch coomer losers
      >FO76
      my femboy maidwife that cooks me dinner

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite all the rage its still just a rat in a cage

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fallout 3
    >can immediately go to the vault your dad is in frm the start and skip half the story
    >Fallout 4
    >go straight to the building Kellogg is hiding
    >the elevator that takes you to him is inaccessible
    >HAVE to save Nick before you're allowed to progress the story
    >also if you don't leave the story in a specific way, the story doesn't progress because the NEEDED you to see the setpiece of the BoS airship entering the Commonwealth
    what happened

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Emil fricking despises the concept of a role playing game, shit needs to go his way all the time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what happened
      skyrim, you can't progress through the civil war quests until you fight the dragon attacking whiterun.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That looks awful. Glad I'm not a fallout cuck.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC ruins are the best playable area in the series to date

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i want to replay it, but they forgot to patch the german version to run without windows live and i am too lazy to troubleshoot it

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only redemption quality this game have is that in the year 2024 I can run it on my phone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really? I have only played Morrowind on my phone. Whats the github link?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay but even with all the fighting I admit 3 plot gets pretty lame towards the end. But who is REALLY butt blasted about Megaton?

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do the mothership zeta aliens eat?
    where are their toilets?
    I don't get it!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for reminding us about that absolute abortion of a DLC. It's actually impressive how little good content Fallout 3 has.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I enjoyed it. It was really fun. Hey i would even like it if they had alien toilets. Actually they DO have alien food believe it or not.... so bethesda does know what the aliens eat at least!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only stuck up Black folk hate mothership zeta, it’s a great DLC

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    677984567
    looks like someone got a nerve touched, but just so we're clear, I denounce the fallout bible and discord

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only now denies it after getting called out
      >no
      Mind broken

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        677985473
        >he didn't denounce discord or the fallout bible

        Can you two homosexuals just kiss already?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop samegayging, if you want to stop then stop don’t do pathetic shit like this
          >inb4 not him schizo
          No one else would give a shit about this you’re the only one. But please feel free to prove me wrong with a screencap, that you can’t give because you’ve already shown that you can edit posts.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    677985473
    >he didn't denounce discord or the fallout bible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bring up discord for no reason while projecting
      >gets called out
      >doesn’t deny it
      >gets called out again
      >a-actually I don’t use it
      >you’re saying this only after it was called out
      >uhhhh…. WELL YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
      I didn’t bring it up (You) did, and you are only denying it now after getting called out. Desperation follows bethesdrones like flies follow shit.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Worse than Oblivion with mods

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no fallout 3 is a really bad game. Worst than skyrim even

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Skyrim has farms and gay marriage though, that makes it better than fallout 3.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its worse than one of the most well received games of all time
      Okay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        more slopped up, rather

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Skyrim was fricking shit, to this day playing a mage and leveling non-combat skills every level you're literally gimping yourself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don’t have to spend your skills every level

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you have to gimp yourself
            very good moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Skyrim was fricking shit, to this day playing a mage and leveling non-combat skills every level you're literally gimping yourself
          This has technically been problem with most Beth games, and it absolutely was WORST in Oblivion, not in Skyrim. It's one of the inherent issues with level scaling, which has been staple of Beth's design since... at least Morrowind. I honestly don't remember much about Daggerfall or Arena, but given how much emphasis Daggerfall put on proc-gen, I assume it was problem back there as well.
          Again: Oblivion was the one with absolutely worst implementation of level scaling so far. At least in Skyrim, they figured out they probably should not scale up random thug's equipment along with their stats, and that "unique" items handed out as quest items should not scale with the level you had when you ACCEPTED that quest.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know it was since before too but this was regarding skyrim, also they had no bandaids solution for it aside giving you a free robe during the tutorial which wasn't much of an improvement since even in late game and maxed enchants (without exploits) you would still need like 400+ worth of magicka to use more than 2 medium-tier spells.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >most well received
        Not a sign of quality, zoomie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Worst than skyrim even
      Most post-morr games Bethesda made were worse than Skyrim.
      That is not to say Skyrim was good. But it was marginally less offensive than Fallout 3 or Oblivion at the very least. Can't say that much about Fo4 because the 20 hours I spend playing it were so utterly boring to me that I genuinely don't even remember a single god damn thing from it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Morrowboomers can’t stand playing a game without a paragraph of lore every npc conversation

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 3 has really fun side quests and a great world to explore. I love every mainline fallout game besides 4 and 76.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't NV and fallout 3 fans get along

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m sure majority of f3 fans also like fnv and this kinda stuff is birthed out (some) nv fans being huge elitist buttholes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because fo3 gays get mad when told that their worldbuilding is shit and makes no sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because NV fans are Fallout fans and """Fallout 3""" fans are Bethesda fans
      There is no common ground between them. One likes RPGs with substance, the other likes open world slop with none. They are completely antithetical to one another.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like both. SEETHE

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are most likely a """Fallout""" 3 fan who only 'likes' NV at superficial level then. You probably don't understand the deeper themes, you most likely don't value the writing or characters, you really just like it because of more things to shoot and loot and the game provides just enough of that to keep your chimp brain appeased, while you ignore the things that actually make NV great. You are the WORST kind of secondary.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My favorite is Fallout as in the first Fallout. Keep coping.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm sure it is and you're not just desperately trying to fit in and feign cred, and your dopamine-fried ass didn't try playing it for about 10 minutes before getting instantly rekt on the first screen of the game and uninstall.

              Nta, god you're obnoxious. I like NV more but 3 is fun too

              NV is a gourmet meal, while 3 is the sloppiest of slops not even a pig would eat.

              >you have to a pretty high iq to understand fallout nv
              You guys really are the Rick and Morty part of the fallout fanbase

              You have a to have a pretty low IQ to make comparisions like this. To be expected from Bethtards.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cringe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, """Fallout""" 3 fans certainly are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cringe

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta, god you're obnoxious. I like NV more but 3 is fun too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you have to a pretty high iq to understand fallout nv
            You guys really are the Rick and Morty part of the fallout fanbase

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This has to be a false flag.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This has to be a false flag.
              I was wondering it myself, but the "you are the worst kind of secondary" makes me thing that he might have been genuine.
              And let's be honest, it's not like he isn't completely off kilter. Most people who enjoy both games do generally are people who just engage with them both on only very superficial level. That is just a fact.
              Accusing them of being "fake" fallout fans is stupid, as if being Fallout fan was some kind of merrit in and off itself. And claiming that it's worst than actively defending and denying Beth's remarkable stupidity, is beyond idiotic.
              But I can believe some people who genuinely got invested in the animosity too much, genuinely feeling that way, especially people who did get into it more recently, bought too hard into the tribalism
              Which - again - is not an excuse. After all, the post is stupid enough to make us both think it may be a false flag.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because one of them lead to Fallout 4/76. It's really not hard to figure out why. Some people actually want more good games under the IP, I know it's a crazy thought.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't blame 3 for Bethesda going to complete shit. That was always going to happen. Also van Buren was never going to be as good as what we got - New Vegas.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based schizophrenic middle aged 1+2+NV fan BTFOing FO3 zoomers.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >duuuuuuuuun duuuuuuun dun
    >duuuun dun dun
    >sound of dust and wind in background

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite all the hate.... it's still kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually like it more than 4. 4 sucks that bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where can I get it for free?

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People in this thread need to chill the frick out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imo, people need to be even more vocals, not doing that led to fo3gays believing they're not subhumans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe you are the one that is being emotional over some online banter? I feel like you are reading some capital letters and swear words and projecting that someone must be unwell or violent.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tale of two wastelands is fun

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Posting best fallout NPC

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best mod to come out for TTW
    https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/84575

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