>destroying the legacy of FF7 for 2m sales

>destroying the legacy of FF7 for 2m sales
I'm so glad I own the original disks on PC.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >glad I own the original on PC
    Good because you will NEVER EVER get Rebirth.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      But he didn't like Rebirth. Why would he rebuy it on PC?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Rebirth will be on PC before Q3 2025

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Y-yeah, just like XVI, right?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          XVI hasn't even been out for a year, it'll be on PC by the holidays they've already confirmed

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Wonderful, source on confirmation?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Remember, shit games on console like ff16 are shit games even on PC

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                So nothing then, amazing.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >imagine wasting money for a crap movie fantasy 16 on PC
            LMAO

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Rebirth will be on PC before Q3 2025

          Too late to make more money IMO,
          the worldwide pirate crew will enjoy them and mod them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      dont want it, didnt buy remake either on pc. its dogshit

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Better lose shit fanfiction crap 7 redditbirth rather than wasting more money on it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Good because you will NEVER EVER get Rebirth.
      you must be completely moronic to think that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Rebirth fan
        >not moronic

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >PC drones destroyed by a single succint post.
      Based.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you morons act like this is some epic own? It's not on PC because it sucks ass and Square needed to recoup some of their losses by going Playstation exclusive.

      The Remake compilation is dead. At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if Part 3 gets quiet canceled because it's literally going to be impossible to make a profit from it. Whatever Rebirth sells in its final tally, cut that in half because they are bleeding audience that badly. You can't make a game as big and bloated as Rebirth and then squeak by with only 2 million copies sold, let alone 1 million.

      Remake is going to go down in history as one of the worst blunders in the history of AAA gaming when people have the benefit of hindsight. All they had to do was just make a fricking remake of Final Fantasy VII, but they had to make it episodic, they had to fill it with bloat, and they had to shove in a bunch of bullshit new plot twists and mystery boxes because they wanted it to be a "cultural phenomena" with fan theory channels and all that shit like a Disney Star Wars movie. (Hint Square, if you want to copy someone, don't copy Kathleen Kennedy).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if Part 3 gets quiet canceled because it's literally going to be impossible to make a profit from it
        If they were willing to fund Lightning Returns, and have it sell 1m, they are moronic enough to put money in FF7R3. It'll be worse than Rebirth though, because the budget will be cut HEAVILY and I doubt it'll even see 1m.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If there's one silver lining to come out of this it's that Square will finally stop raping the corpse of Final Fantasy VII after Part 3 is done. It'll be over, there's no milk left to squeeze from the old cow's udders.

          Another thing nobody is talking about is that a bunch of young people thought they were playing FInal Fantasy VII for the first time when they bought Remake, and the reaction was basically "well this is a bit crap, it feels like I'm missing something." You're expected to have meta knowledge of Final Fantasy VII, and all the most iconic moments were ruined by intrusive meta story components. Remake is the absolute worst way for a first time to experience Final Fantasy VII and it's no wonder people dropped it like a brick.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >there's no milk left to squeeze from the old cow's udders
            Please. Have you seen people ITT?
            They'll go for a remake again in 2038 and it'll be a REAL remake this time, exclusive to the PS8 and it'll sell millions and it'll be just as shit then. But a handful of idiots will always claps because they lack critical thought.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why should I care about people who haven't played 7? The same people who would call ATB turn based combat are the same people who thought that a remake would be the same as a remaster. I'm not entirely sure if I can give a frick. I prefer remake's story than just having a 1:1 remaster of 7. There are a million different ways people could've played the OG before remake came out. Those people didn't because they expected a remaster when it literally says remake. Remaster's are 1:1 just like in music, remake means shit changes. I don't feel any sympathy for people who wanted to play the same game from 1997 but in HD. That shit is boring, monotonous and is what killed the industry. Square made the right choice taking a risk with not doing the same fricking game.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You would have still bought VII whether it was in its current form or if it was a good actual remake and only one game rather than 3. Don't kid yourself. Nobody asked for new plot twists or meta commentary about the original game to be inserted, and the reason Part 1 sold well is because Square deliberately hid it.

              Part 2 is a financial bomb for the studio and it's because all the oldhead fans who were pissed off about the changes didn't come back, and that miraculous "new audience" that was a supposed to replace us doesn't actually exist. There is literally never a good reason to divide fandoms and we've known that since The Last Jedi. Square apparently missed the memo though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >they wanted it to be a "cultural phenomena" with fan theory channels and all that shit like a Disney Star Wars movie.
        Sad, but true. They thought they could pull that shit, and it failed miserably.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Square needed to recoup some of their losses by going Playstation exclusive.
        How is staying on one console going to help their financial losses? Sure, underperforming games tend not to get ported to other systems, but unless you're Nintendo that makes no sense.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because Sony wrote them a fat fricking check. Money that was guaranteed, and instant.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Simple: Sony offers to pay Square more in their exclusive deal than Square would have made in profit off of the Xbox version. It's basically flushing money down the drain for Sony but for Square it makes perfect sense. Putting Rebirth on Xbox would not have fixed the fundamental problem that the game is selling like shit, and the game is selling like shit because less than 30% of people who bought Remake actually finished it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >they wanted it to be a "cultural phenomena" with fan theory channels and all that shit like a Disney Star Wars movie.
        Sad, but true. They thought they could pull that shit, and it failed miserably.

        Nomura didn't copy anyone, this is just how he writes. Kingdom Hearts has always been full of this moronic bullshit. All the characters come out as pretentious and moronic because he writes setups for plot pointswithout even fricking planning what they're going to be, only to later address them sometimes, eventually, in a way that usually sort of satisfies the condition of the setup but not in a way that's interesting or meaningful. As opposed to normal writing where you come up with a reveal FIRST and then add hints about in earlier parts of the story.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I thought the writer was Nojima, however I get you point

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Nomura and Nojima are co authors on everything and share their fricking awful narrative and aesthetic preferences. Nojima might as well be Nomura's pen name.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      we genuinely do not care and yes i do speak for everyone.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This. I have NEVER understood this weird hyper-cope that PC will somehow be the savior SE needs. We didn't give a frick about Remake, and that was arguably "the good one".
        No one here is lining up for Troonbirth.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >using fake numbers

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://steamdb.info/charts/?compare=1086940,1462040,2072450,2161700

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          we genuinely do not care and yes i do speak for everyone.

          Tru,e, we PC chads only care about bear sex similators

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Player count doesn't show sales

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but that's pathetic. 1m out of the 7m sold?
            Rebirth isn't going to see 300k on PC at if that's anything to go by.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't really matter. I know people who are just waiting for all 3 parts to be out before they even start remake.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              What is it with you people, is anything good enough for you?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      oh oh

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      We get the tifa porn, which is the only part of it worth my time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP

      fpbp

      FPBP

      >PC drones destroyed by a single succint post.
      Based.

      1. The first game eventually got ported so there's a high probability that this one will.
      2. When it does, nobody will buy it, because it is obviously dogshit, just like the first game. This one is so bad not even the snoys bought it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's the thing, the whole "exclusives" angle seems to me like a PR spin to avoid adressing the reason the games are actually underperforming, because they're not what people want to buy. Nintendo exclusives are locked to their ecosystem and they do just fine if not outright sell gangbusters.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ok...? why would I want the game so shitty it literally sank the whole company

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This. The port and part 3 are both getting cancelled.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >OP doesn't like the remake
      >sub zero IQ snoy Black person starts blowing liquid diarrhea out their mouth hole
      Clockwork

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit image used for reddit cope

      this, and let's be real, the forced diversity does not help

      XIV levels of slop, jesus

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah
    FF7 redditbirth is a huge Flop with that piece of crap movie of FF16

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sales are more or less irrelevant to me. I enjoyed the game and despite my issues with the plot, I would give it a high 8 to a low 9 out of 10.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The original games are now at that age where the threat of disc rot is appearing.

      It's shit. It's a soul-less hack-and-slash where the hand of Sweet Baby is everywhere and shits on everything. It tries to be deep with multi-verse shit, but it ends up cluster-fricking everything because now the wroters can produce any outcome they want and still force the "original" story.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >The original games are now at that age where the threat of disc rot is appearing.
        True, but with a cheap CD drive they're easy to dump.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >he actually fell for the disc rot psyop
        inb4 the same few cherry-picked images of discs that were left submerged in rusty water down a back alley in brazil for 20 years as "proof"

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >soul-less hack-and-slash

        If you actually play the game this way you'll never make it past the snake.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I swear you people look for cuckshit to be mad about.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    is it so hard to admit that yes FF7R was better than expected but whether or not you own a PS5 having it released as an exclusive was supremely moronic?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >is it so hard to admit that yes FF7R was better than expected
      It's not hard as much as I don't like lying.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What is it with pretending rebirth was bad?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It sucked shit through a straw, troony.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because it was TERRIBLE.
      The part 1 was already awful, but the abysmal part 2 is somehow even worse.

      who would you trust to make an ACTUAL 1:1 final fantasy 7 remake if square go under and the IP is sold, like fallout?

      Enix.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I still kinda can't believe they put this in the game.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It is bad. Witcher 3 is almost 10 years old and was made with a quarter the budget, and it mogs on Rebirth in every way that matters.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        In what things, exactly? Rebirth is far more condensed. Combat is much better, music is varied and good, traversal is faster, story is far more entertaining.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Rebirth is shit for so many reasons, it deserves being a fricking flop along with all other Woke media.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    who would you trust to make an ACTUAL 1:1 final fantasy 7 remake if square go under and the IP is sold, like fallout?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I'm not sure I want a 1:1 remake either. Their fanfic shit was trash and I don't think I'd want anyone to attempt a 1:1 either.
      How about, and hear me out, we drop it and try to make a new IP instead of just recycling what was good once for nostalgiagays and waifugays?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        SE made a ton of new IPs and they all flopped.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >How about we drop it and try to make a new IP
        nothing new under the sun, writers don't have the talent to do this anymore, in any industry
        thinking about the new kong zilla movie right now, the best parts were the cgi and when no one was talking whatsoever because the focus was on the monster creatures. there was basically no writing, and when humans start talking I sleep, because the plots are too predictable.
        watched another movie last night about serial killers or something in virginia, predicted a twist a FULL HOUR before they actually got to the scene (priest impregnates his sister and then tries to say its god and nothing to do with him, MC shoots priest with his luger) a FULL hour before they got around to the "twist" I knew the whole fricking plot.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          this, and let's be real, the forced diversity does not help

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It's the console exclusive part that hurt the sales. No one is going to buy a PS5 for one game.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Is this real?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              endgame quest reward cutscene

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                More like the cutscene of square enix's endquest

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Writing is a dead art.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The people working at these companies can still write. They're just "Tyler Durdens" with a sick violent need to take anything anyone else finds to be beautiful, and seek to destroy it. They then use gaming (and TV and films) as their moral lectures on why we're wrong for liking anything they don't like.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              So leftism then.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >The people working at these companies can still write.
              No they cant. You need a point of reference. You need to be cool in order to write something cool. You need to be experienced and educated. You need to be intelligent. Can you imagine how hard it was to do research on something scientific back in 20th century? Just because you were thought in school how to write, just because you understand the tropes and how you use them, it doesn't mean you can write. You still need to be creative with everything from the above to generate something truly amazing.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >How about we drop it and try to make a new IP
            nothing new under the sun, writers don't have the talent to do this anymore, in any industry
            thinking about the new kong zilla movie right now, the best parts were the cgi and when no one was talking whatsoever because the focus was on the monster creatures. there was basically no writing, and when humans start talking I sleep, because the plots are too predictable.
            watched another movie last night about serial killers or something in virginia, predicted a twist a FULL HOUR before they actually got to the scene (priest impregnates his sister and then tries to say its god and nothing to do with him, MC shoots priest with his luger) a FULL hour before they got around to the "twist" I knew the whole fricking plot.

            good writers still exist, they just dont get hired because their skin colour isnt vogue right now

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I always blame the new movies being bad because of the cameras.
          It's more quality than needed, to the point that is excessive.

          And from the 1920s up to around before 90s
          movies looked almost like dreams or something.

          A bad B horror movie from the 1950s has more charm
          than anything or most that came out after the 2010s.

          Almost the same with games.
          Those stylized babes that you frick in the God of War 2 pool
          are way more hot than a photo-realistic woman in a PS5 game,
          even if they attempt to make her hot.

          Frick it, a dwarf female with the right face in World of Warcraft vanilla
          is hotter than most trash women model today.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fans like me.
      I'm good at art, design, programming and music.
      We'd start with the bombing mission and go from there.

      I'd make an action game mode and an optional turnbased mode since turnbased is very easy to do.
      I'm talking proper action like KH2 and some of the better designed fights in Rebirth. not shitty fake superficial combat like "remake" had.

      The only other thing I'd really change is the minigames.
      They need to all be fun or else they're pointless.
      example: The march minigame should be a small rhythm game like Marching Orders in Rhythm Heaven.
      joining the parade wouldn't be a clunky pile of bullshit if it was to a rhythm.
      march on the beat, stop on "company halt", present arms when the parade instructor shouts.
      The music is already a march banger in the perfect tempo.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >talking proper action like KH2 and some of the better designed fights in Rebirth. not shitty fake superficial combat like "remake" had.
        Holy frick have a nice day moron

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i'd use kh2 as a good comparison for goals when it comes to aerial combat too
        making the march a minigame would take away from the awkwardness of having to sneak in and march along in sync, and getting a bomb as a reward lol, unless you mean after at the bote.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >original disks on PC.
    That's a even worse butchery than the remake lol.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The 5 years of pointless 13 sequel games and 15 being a massive let down after all the hype and marketing has damaged the brand.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'd argue it started way earlier than that:
      >FF11 was an MMO which they didn't have to make mainline but they did
      >FF12 was divisive at best and downright a step down the wrong path at worse
      >FF13 and all it's bastard sequels might actually put FF7R to shame at this rate
      >FF14 is a WoW clone and now serves as a grooming/furgay chatroom
      >FF15 sold a lot but spent too long in dev-hell and wasn't particularly good
      >FF7R1 sold well on initial hype, but even the most basic normalgay realized that, despite the name, this isn't a remake
      >FF16 is somehow way worse than 15, but at this point most fans have jumped off this series
      >FF7R2 is a total flop now that the cat's out of the bag and only desperate shills and trannies are holding on

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        All hopes were gone with Sakaguchi-san ;c

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          As long as he doesn't make movies

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        All hopes were gone with Sakaguchi-san ;c

        What the frick went wrong with Final Fantasy after Sakaguchi left?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sakaguchi is a mediocre game designer but an S-tier tardwrangler and SE is in desperate need of a tardwrangler.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Nomuraslop games always flop? And why is he always given so many chances?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Failing upwards.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >still crying about 7R and saying what you would've done better
    Why don't you just make your own 1:1 remake of FF7? Nothing is stopping you from getting people together and doing it. I guess the main thing you're missing is the skill to do anything besides shitpost.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yamauchi got the last laugh

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    what the frick when did ff16 get released?
    i thought they were still doing stuff with that four dudes in a car game

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Does playing ignorant like this make people feel smart or is it witty?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the game has no presence at all
        this thread is the first i've heard of it

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Cuck Romano using an interracial family for that news
    About time that Italian bastard went woke. I'm glad I left his shithole shite long ago

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >abandons shitty live services that were in dev
    BASED

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Get woke, go completely broke in a matter of couple of years.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Do you understand how stocks work?

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >22.1 billion yen
    Can't believe they lost $20.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda off topic but can someone link or post the info about the reestructure of Square's studios? Something that said they now have 5 console studios and 1 mobile one. I read about it the last couple days but now I can't find it.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Apologize

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I will never apologize because I always liked FFXII.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >rtwp slop
      Nah

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No, you were shit. THIS is the start of when the FF brand went into the shitter. Bad acting, bad characters, bad combat. It was a complete snooze fest. What they should have done, is gone full tactics with this game. It should have been on a grid, it should have had fricking strategy to it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        FF12 already had plenty of strategy to it, gambit was a genuinely good system.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There is not a single AAA developer I trust right now. I can name zero that aren't handicapped, by either incompetence or DEI bullshit. Name a company.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it was so stupid of them to accept Sonys exclusive terms. at least they're finally prioritizing multiplat so they can have a shot at actual sales again but it might be too late. Modern squenix seems hellbent on crashing their studio with the constant string of moronic decisions they've made.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >implying this wasn't all part of the plan so their value diminishes allowing Sony to more easily acquire them
    wake the frick up already

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder each time a snoy drone say "muh exclusives" These are the most played games on PS5 for the month of April 2024

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