it's not that bad
devil may cry 2
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it's not that bad
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Let him cook
>having your nuts smashed is not that painful
why can't you Gankerermin just make a regular dmc thread without some shitty bait?
Because thread with positivity on it are rapidly erased thanks to jannies being gays, we need DMC thread camouflaged as bait threads to have good discussion
>why can't you Gankerermin just make a regular dmc thread without some shitty bait?
threads without bait don't get discussion. doesn't matter the topic. trust me, I've fucking tried.
Yes it is
I finished the first DMC last year. Combat never clicked with me. Are 2 and 3 worth trying?
2 isn't, melee combat is not engaging so you end up shooting everything to death. 3 is worth a try but if combat still doesn't click with you after playing that one, abandon all hope, the franchise is not for you.
>falling for the playing a franchise in release order meme
play 5
>Recommending the worst game in the series
>claiming DMC5 was the worst game in the series when DMC2 and DMC Reboot exist
OIOIOIOIOIOI
What are some games with combat that clicked with you?
Was the same for me. 1 just didn't let you do a whole lot of things. 2 is somehow even worse in that regard. 3 is where combat started to get good for me.
Unironically has the deepest lore. Hunting down Crowley tier thelema beasts in Sicily was pretty god tier
>Sicily
I always though it took place on Corsica with all the french use plus a demonic invasion would be a nice change of pace for pic
DMC2 doesn't even have the luxury of being that bad, you can't even point and laugh at it. It's just fucking boring and forgettable, which is why it's the worst DMC game by far.
Unironically better than 5. Zoomies will never understand
Bait
Based hot take that is actually true. The first three games bring the goods- atmosphere, cutscenes, enemy design. Not that ugly boring
re engine husk
Extreme levels of disingenuous contrarianism
Not even being disingenuous bro. DMC 5 is aggravatingly self-referential, self-satisfied with its plot. The world looks browner than african water, the enemies are fucking embarrassing bro. Good luck playing with your basic bitch gallery of emaciated animal talker, retard version dante and bland vanilla ice nero. And the female characters are fucking dire; you think I need the script reminding me these bitches can hold their own against Dante? Really poor writing that treats you like a retard that needs action games to teach you about life.
Meanwhile DMC 2 fucking slaps. Dante puts literally anything on a tee shirt with repeated kisses from his colt 1911's. He's fighting actual demons and shit not chud purple robot people; taking on military ordinance , wolves..going toe to toe with actual architecture... screw gameplay its the message, it's what the game want to make you feel. And DMC 2 makes you feel like a man of the warpath not some old shit dragging a sword around. DMC 5 and its female devs can scratch my balls
based and true. Unfortunately the devs saw fit to cater to the reddit audience. As evidenced by numerous posters above me.
Actually fucking braindead. You're not some enlightened god gamer for sucking off a game so crap even crapcum couldn't be arsed to give it more than "well un, demons happened then dante did his thing and demons were dead... yeah that happened" in the recap and pretty sure theres a book that says Dante was just bored out of his mind through the events of DMC2 too
Your waifu game is ass bro ,5 did such a poor job of creating sub plots to tie threads together that never even needed to happen. Actually stupid. But you know all about stupid don't you, having your ass caved out by soulless devs repeatedly. Meanwhile Im gonna dust off my ps2 copy of Devil May Cry 2, mash square and watch those sweet bullet casings litter the floor
I think I'll do the same. Too many plebs on Ganker.
>Waifu game
>dmc5
You didn’t play it chud there’s more female screen time in dmc1-2-3 than dmc5
The absolute state of DMC threads in 2023
The state of the threads reflect the state of the series
*state of Ganker and social zeitgeist
Until news or leaks of DMC6 come out, this is what we have to deal with.
>giving a shit about the story in a video game
>in DMC of all things
What has the world come too.
This is so detached from reality it's worrying.
GOTHIC
>Throw an attack helicopter in your path
ATMOSPHERE
>Throw battle tanks in your path
KINO
>Throw a living building in your path
>iphone poster
stay
GOTHIC
>*insert footage of Dante just shooting the helicopter and sloooowly melting its health bar
ATMOSPHERE
>*insert Dante getting up close to the tank so that it can't even shoot him and slooowly melting its health bar with the basic combo, repeat like 3 times*
KINO
>Throw a living building in your path
>*insert yet another shitty bossfight from DMC2*
DMC2 was basically made in 4 months by maximum Japanese sweatshop power because higher ups told Itsuno that he had 4 months after the previous team basically did fuck all. He himself has said it is an unfinished piece of shit due to ridiculous deadlines and incompetence.
It still surprises me that we've never found out who was the first one to direct it.
He'd be linched and make fun of his entire life for making that garbage
the living building was kind of a cool design though
I don't get why 1 gets praise and 2 gets hate. They're both about the same quality and 2 does a lot of things (like bosses) better.
Is it about "muh gothic atmosphere"?
>they're both the same quality
NO THEY FUCKING AREN'T?! DMC 2's development was an actual mesa and it had to be salvaged months before release, and what we got was just "hold shoot button to win" and "walk behind this desk, now you can just hold shoot button until you win because no one on the dev team thought what could happen if the player just decided to walk behind that desk and smack the boss on the back of his skull"
>hold shoot button to win
So just like 5?
You can't hold the shoot button to win in dmc5, its a combo extender
Meanwhile there's little reason to use your sword in dmc2 when you can just hold the shoot button and let the game wipe the enemies for you
>You can't hold the shoot button to win in dmc5,
You literally can if you're using the microtransaction-fueled red orb laser.
You can stock up on Holy Water in any other DMC too if you want to go that route.
You will run out of red orbs eventually if you spam that, also DMC never exceeded on Difficulty, people still plays these games for the combo potential, nothing else
Are you saying the first game's development wasn't? It has 4 bosses only one of which is good and every level consists of getting a key item to solve a "puzzle".
Both 1 and 2 can be played by just shooting enemies until your DT is ready.
The first game wasn't a 6 month rush job to salvage a previous attempt at the game. In a year they'd only made the worst stinger in the series. DMC started as RE3 and then RE4 and then turned into its own thing. It explains all the RE elements but also shows it wasn't a developmental nightmare.
2 has dogshit melee, garbage enemy design, and it's poorly balanced trash. If it doesn't feel good to hit things you made a bad Action game. Simple as.
Yes it is
In all fields
It's really not, in the context of ps2 games at least. You play some actual shit and end up wishing you were still playing DMC2.
It's a shame there's no fist weapon for Dante. Making the melee options just slightly more varied would do wonders for the game.
That’s how I felt too until I got to the end. It’s that bad. The art direction and music is pretty good though from what I remember. I still sometimes wish they stuck with the grittier edgelord aesthetic instead of turning Dante into a flaming retard
>DMC2 slaps because dante is... LE EDGY
Shut the fuck up. Dante is fucking bland and boring in DMC2 and you're a dumbass for thinking the whole series should've been him being a dull brooding "heh, nuthin personell" edgelord like he was in DMC 2.
Using a DLC weapon and the game literally being designed in such a braindead way theres little reason to use anything else than your starting pistol are two seperate things, dumbass.
Cool Doom 3 thread.
youre all gay and make me appreciate how Viewtiful Joe died a perfect game.
Hahaha kamiya fags have no good games
it's the best beat em up ever made.
...the best 2D beat em up ever made, and I'll fight any quarter tossing boomer that says otherwise.
2D beat ‘em up, literally the lowest bar possible
It raised it., VJ is a game you can beat in a sitting, can perfect it without much training or insane ingame tech. You don't punch mobs off the side of a screen, you don't just frame trap a boss, it's a straight forward game.
Aside from geometry, the only the God Hand has of VJ is customizable combos which is something no other game has really done since.
*the only thing
am playing Sifu right now, sorry
Godhand has everything over viewtiful
A sequel would be nice.
Why the fuck do people still fall for these "DMC2 is good, DMC5 is bad" threads when they're clearly made by Barry? It has his shitty posting style and everything. Nobody else is this autistic to keep this up for years.
And if you point this out he'll reply with schizo/boogeyman etc samefagging as usual.
>If you don't hold the same opinion as I do you are... le barry
im not your internet friend, but i am going to call you a schizo, just wanted to see if 2 was worth playing. you may now seethe.
>anything I don't like is Bazzy
Mental illness.
moron go back to your Final gayry threads lmao
It's probably an imitator, every thread on a regularly talked about series now has "those" posters.
>Ninjagaiden fag, Barry, the few Bayo fags and gigachaDMC2 fags all argue on here
>Shadowfag/bot, Chadvok bog, Tinglebot all on Sonic threads
>Vidyabutts
>Cado posters
>Sn*w c*nny fag
>Hogwarts Legacy Threads
everyone wants attention, everyone wants to fling shit and take a stance. Taking a stance is like beating a boss or level in a videogame (even if it's make believe and holds no real meaning to someone). If someone wins by defending their stance, it feels good.
IDPOL will spread to your Steam playtime.
>Barry
Not barry, that's ngchud 100%
Oh, believe me, it is.
Capcom fans are probably the easiest people to bait on this board. When will you fags learn to just not reply.
I wish 5 had a dedicated scythe weapon, this and the angel chakrum were actually fun to fuck around with,
I was disappointed how little effort went into DSS's scythe and spear modes, secially for a game that already brings so much back from DmC. We could have had a proper scythe with swordmaster but they just had to make it a rebellion reskin.
Weapon modes seems like a half-cooked idea in 5
Each weapon has them, but it is implemented differently in each one instrad of being a proper mechanic
>Balrog just lets you switch
>Cavaliere and Cerberus switch based on what attack you do
>DSD just has summoned swords behave differently
Balrog is sweet and actually has set stances, Cavaliere and Cerb are like you said, weapons with superfluous 'changes. DSD is just ' more sword ' like any other sword upgrade before honestly.
The weapon forms in DMC5 are the opposite of half-cooked. Each of them is mechanically unique and interacts with its weapon and Swordmaster and the rest of Dante's ability uniquely. The go on a scale where you can use the two buttons/forms simultaneously (DSD) to using them together (Cavaliere) to using them separately (King Cerberus) to having to manually change them (Balrog); you'll also notice the amount of moves per weapon scale similarly, with Balrog having the most moves and DSD having the second least, this is because Balrog's SM is designed specifically so that you not only have to not switch weapons and styles, but not switch modes; notice how SM gives King Cerberus a Helm Breaker variant and Cavaliere a High Time variant, and both of them get a Stinger variant.
King Cerberus alone gets to ridiculous levels when you start looking at how its moveset is designed. Each of the forms has different elemental damages which do less or more damage to different enemy types. The ice form has high style recovery on its combos so you can do two combos in row, the fire form deals 50% of its damage if you're too close, the lightning form causes stun, and all the attacks tied to ice are single target, while those tied to fire are crowd control; simultaneously everything you do with King Cerberus with the basic attack button is single-handed, while the attacks done with Swordmaster are two-handed, effectively giving the weapon the usual "weak" and "strong" attack buttons you see in other games.
Don't get me started on how its model transforms because that will probably not fit in Ganker post.
I like KC it cooks the fast lizard guys.
>how little effort went into DSS's scythe and spear modes
It's consistent with how it worked in DMC1. Besides if DSS had gottten a unique moveset it would have stopped being a "sword" for Dante and turned into something else, at which point you might as well just get another DA. Not to say that moveset wouldn't have been able to go onto future entries of the series since DSS is gone now. Hell, you only get DSS for two missions anyway (and Rebellion for one), so it makes even less sense to be changing the sword moveset so much.
Funny that you mention the reboot though, since Prop Shredder using the scythe form actually was something they took from it.
>It's consistent with how it worked in DMC1.
I'm not talking lore-wise as much as I'm talking animations. I would be fine with DSS being a simple rebellion reskin (I do understand why it works that way within the game's structure, I understand it but don't agree with it at all, which is why if it were up to me it'd be a KC situation where the entire moveset is moved to basic melee and SM is made something entirely new, in this case an osiris-like scythe moveset, but I digress), but things that should have a "punch" to them (spear at the end of million stab/stinger, scythe prop, scythe round trip) hit like a wet fart. Hell, as far as 1 goes, the sparda animations were better than the ones in 5. 4SE trish's remains the best playable version of sparda imo, and it's not even that different, it just has proper animations.
I suppose that's fair, though it's pretty subjective. For what it's worth all its sound effects are different from those of the other two swords and those attacks do deal more damage, and that affects more of its moveset.
I like it but I'm not hard to please. Though it's still the weakest game in the series.
I'm going through DMC 1 for the first time, I just defeated Griffin. I'm enjoying it but I'm surprised at how easy it is. Griffin is presented as some epic fight with lots of sound and fury, but I beat him on my first try without using any consumables. Devil Trigger + Air Raid is overpowered in this game. It's the "I win" button.
Which griffon fight? you mentioning air raid leads me to believe is griffon 2 (on the pirate ship).
I beat his final encounter in the colosseum last night. The one where he is finished off by Mundus at the end. Air Raid was still the optimal strat in this fight.
I see. Ifrit's meteor also works wonder for griffon but yeah overall air raid is good for everything
I have to admit I haven't used Ifrit at all. I didn't want to spend resources on levelling a new weapon when I could instead use them to buy purple orbs and increase my Devil Trigger Gauge.
You did not beat the real DMC experience until you defeat DMD mode, griffin is a bitch on DMD
Makes the game more fun, but the funky animations still make it really strange to play. Plus, the level design still sucks.
I like the DTs and character designs. Lucia is hot and Bolverk is dope. That's all I can say. Oh and Despair Embodied is a solid fight
I always thought you guys shit talk this game like it was the Anti-Christ as meme, like a lot of other games. Turns out you guys weren't joking, this shit is just as bad as its parroted around the internet. Its unbeliavable bad, really don't know what was the thought process behind it.
What's up with that anyway? Did Capcom thought DMC1 was not that great of a hit and maybe bringing the gameplay closer to a western game design was a better call? It doesnt even look like a DMC game. The first one is also kinda different from the 3 and foward games, but the foundation was there. DMC2 did a 180° and tried to be something completely different.
I really wish we had a documentary about this tragedy of a game.
My favourite part is that they designed this cool demon tank boss but NO ONE on the team went like "okay but what happens if the player just gets really close so that the turret can't hit him and just starts smacking the tank with his sword" or how in another boss fight absolutely no one went like "the player can just get behind this desk and start smacking the boss on the back of his skull, shouldn't we add something that will punish the player for trying to cheese the boss like that?"
>DMC1 is a hit
>Capcom decides to strike the iron while it's hot
>puts a completely new team with no experience of console decelopment on it
>they shit the bed, as expected, literally nothing is accomplished
>half a year before release they put Itsuno on it, old director leaves, his identity is still a secret
>Itsuno later went on record saying the stinger animation is all they had managed to make in all the dev time
>under Itsuno the game is haphazardly cobbled together in half a year
>actually was a success for Capcom, sold well, and reviewed well by journous, who praised the lowered difficulty, whou would've thunk
>Itsuno hates it though, thinks it brought shame on his family for a thousand generations
>begs Capcom to give him another shot at making a DMC game because he (actual quote) didn't want to be remembered as the director of DMC2
>DMC3 comes out of it
And everything was forever good ever after, and no bad game was ever released again.
I was about to say this but I wasn't sure it was true, holy kek
Thanks for the info.
>and no bad game was ever released again
Yeah, because dmc4 is not the second worst game of the franchise, amirite? Lol
DMC4 is still good to play, it's just half a game.
4 > 1
DMC2 is weird for me. Everything people shit on this game for is 100% true and it's objectively a huge step down from the first game and compared to any other game in the series (including the failed reboot) and yet for some reason I still like it anyway. DMC2 really got the look of urban/industrial areas mixed with demonic occultism which is present in 3, 4 and 5 but only for like the first few levels whereas 2 had it going on for most of the game including the final area.
DMC2 is probably the game I want to see get a remake the most because I see so much untapped potential in it. Sad it'll never happen though.
So is it skippable or what? I bought the HD Collection during the sale and I'm nearing the end of DMC1. I'm tempted to just skip the fucker because nothing I've seen or heard about it is encouraging. But I don't want to miss out on any lore shit that becomes important later in the series.
Its at least just as terrible as people on the internet make out to be. My advice is you check it out yourself, the game is pretty short.
Even the recap Capcom did for DMC5 is just like "demons happened but then Dante did his thing and then all was well. What a guy. Anyway, here's DMC3..."
Its perfectly skippable
I'd say at least give it a shot just to see what everyone's talking about but yes you can skip it and not miss out on anything in any of the other games. Like there is zero overlap between 2 and any other game, none of the stuff in it is ever referenced again. It's telling that for the longest time it was the most recent game in the timeline until 5 came out and they switched it so that 4 now happens after it and it had zero impact on the story of either game.
>But I don't want to miss out on any lore shit that becomes important later in the series.
I'll do you a solid
>balrog (DMC5 weapon) was argosax's right hand man
That's about it. 2 actually has plenty of lore that is entirely self-contained (bolverk fought sparda, argosax fought mundus, agnus worked for arius, lucia genuinely loves dante, matier and her clan are implied to have demon blood, etc.), but literally none of it matters or is relevant ever again other than that single greentext bulletpoint, which doesn't even come from 2 itself, but from the DMC5 prequel novel. Most things having to do with 2's lore are retroactively added in side content that tries to salvage the game's connection to the rest of the franchise.
>But I don't want to miss out on any lore shit that becomes important later in the series.
Lmao. That's the best part, you can skip it without missing out on anything. Even after playing it, you just end up wondering what the point of it all even was. DMC2 is one of the most skippable games of a game series ever so far.
realtalk it would be better than dmc1 if it had a more aggressive AI, like in the bloody palace
the AI completely neuters the game, because enemies are not allowed to attack you and have to wait their turn, they're not even allowed to use their ranged abilities, this is basically like playing the game in an accessibility mode
i want them to remake dmc2 but make the combat like 1 and 3.
DMC2 is awesome and I don't care what you gays think.
>it's not that bad
SOUL
PUHLEEZ
The face of DMC 2
Damn, I just learned green empusas can heal themselves. If you hit them enough to knock them to the ground, they'll trade a green abdomen for full HP. Now I'm wondering if they can heal other green empusas.
Green Empusas can heal any enemies in a radius of them. They'll also get full again if they drink blood off the floor. If you kill them while they're full they will always drop Green Orbs.
>Green Empusas can heal any enemies in a radius of them. They'll also get full again if they drink blood off the floor. If you kill them while they're full they will always drop Green Orbs.
I knew all this, but the thing is I thought this greentext paragraph was all there was to them. Didn't know they could heal themselves until 3 minutes ago, and now I'm trying to find out if they can heal other greens.
it's only "not bad" because the reboot was way worse