DIABLO 4 and POE2 thread

I'm so excited Ganker. OUR lives will once more have purpose.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    honestly looking forward to summer
    still disgusts me inside that I have to pay blizzard

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Same here. Who would have thought that you will be buying the game out of spite, because poe turned to literal shit over the last couple of leagues.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why would you want to play blizzards outsourced chink mmo that looks and plays like every other chinkoid SK mmo game like lost ark etc etc
      get real

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 is still being made? I haven't heard any news about it in a long time.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's coming out this year and I'm 100% sure GGG will plan their launch window around syphoning as many Diablo players as possible

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        At best, it's coming late this year, and maybe invitation based for streamers or 'buy in' with expensive supporter packs only. As little as they've shown over the years, I can't imagine that they're anywhere close to a finish line.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Eh I'm guessing they're saving it for Exilecon this year

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            And that falls together with Diablo 4's release. Can't imagine that many people are watching exilecon online this time without being baited in with mtx. They are quite fricked to be honest, and also sabotaged their streamers by more or less forcing them to attend the show, instead of streaming d4. Lol

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They've been finished for years. They've been waiting for a D4 release date so D4 doesn't snipe theirs (which Blizzard is known to do)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            chris wilson can't pay streamers enough to stay away from D4 unless tencent gets behind the campaign.

            [...]
            qrd?

            some canadian kid called the lead dev a fat bald moron frick and the lead dev fired him from streaming his game on twitch.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah no shit. That's why he's waiting for after D4 to be out and stale before he released PoE2. My guess is they plan to try and snipe the D4 playerbase whenever there's a lull in content

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I remember he waited to do a league because of cyberpunk release LMAO

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not a bad idea, they changed the league schedule for Elden Rings release too.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                so the game is purely based on MTX sales and not gameplay?
                WHAT THE FRICK?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think D4 and PoE audiences will overlap much if at all. PoE is barely even a video game, it's an addiction simulator where gameplay is an afterthought.

              Diablo 4 is a video game first and foremost and its focus is on gameplay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You should focus your advertising on Twitter and Reddit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                upvoted, where's the link to your patreon?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Completely agree, and people lashing out just indicates that it's addicts raging. PoE turned into an online casino, coated as an arpg.

                Yeah no shit. That's why he's waiting for after D4 to be out and stale before he released PoE2. My guess is they plan to try and snipe the D4 playerbase whenever there's a lull in content

                I can't imagine people going back to poe once they tried it, except for the people who are used to it. Think about all the quality of life features in d4, and then about poe. Yeah, are you really going to put up with picking up all the atomised currency items, one by one, by hand? No chance.
                And melee will feel super clunky with your character walking to each monster, instead of the magnetism that is in d4 (already implemented in wolcen lol).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Shill Blizzshart post

                so the game is purely based on MTX sales and not gameplay?
                WHAT THE FRICK?

                What the frick are you even saying?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Quite pathetic to be honest, to call everything you don't like to hear a shill.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                the lead dev has no competence that his game can make money because the release of another game might take sales of overpriced MTX.
                pretty fricking simple.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Even though delusional PoE gays will roast you, you're right. PoE is a trading sim economy game and an ARPG second.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                play ruthless

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This *sniff* is where the irony lies. Ruthless is Chris' league to cope with his midlife crisis. It's a nostalgia callback trip to simpler times, when people had nothing, and farmed docks tirelessly. An overall slower experience where you knew specific monsters, read their names and so on, and so on. Boomers might remember. The change is completely in line with them throttling down the game's overall speed and experience to make it nu-boomer looter poe2.
                The problem is, that the game can't be turned back to what it once was with all the shit they added. Monsters with their damage and speed, for example, are a complete different calibre today than they were back then. You can't revert years of league mechanics that force you to go fast. And forget the necessary layers up on layers of defence to not get vaporised
                But nu-male homosexuals who can only make this about themselves have only currency per hour in their head. It's perverted ideas about optimisation of builds and grind that they have in their skulls. It's a moronic warped perspective that came to them through a perceived competition which they have to opt out of by choosing a shit league mode. They see themselves always in comparison to imaginary, more successful black bulls, so to say. Their game is their girl, and they see it fricked by stronger males. Them speaking about SSF/hc/ruthless/lgbtq and what else is the ultimate coping mechanic to convince themselves that they are not wasting their time grinding for items that could have been bought for one chaos orb.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                my favorite part about poe is how the game is so "complex" that every single build just ends up being the exact same aoe spam that kills everything instantly.

                PoE started out fine but over the years it has become an actual parody of itself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Chris is trying to change PoE back into what it used to be but the zoomer fanbase throws a shitfit any time something slightly difficult

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The problem lies more in the fact that he deleted the sandbox approach to the game and increases the grind with each fricking league. Everyone would be fine with a slower game, if the game would give you meaningful drops. But, nobody but neets and streamers like this game becoming a pastime job without pay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i remember there was that one league a while back where they made monsters a bit harder to kill and the addicts absolutely lost their shit lol

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >slow players down
                >don't slow down monsters
                That's where the problem lies. If he blanket nerfs it'd be fine but he is insistent on only pulling back on player power when monster power has been powercrept along with players

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its graphical overhaul + new 6 link system + 1 extra subclass for each class. Not like they have to code the entire game from scratch. Thing about visual assets like modeling and animation is that shit takes time even if you're good at it. Animation isn't expensive because you need some wunderchild maestros to do it, Golden Age Disney hired and trained any young dude they grabbed from the streets. Its expensive because its time-consuming job so you need huge teams if you wish to make something big in relatively short amount of time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's an expansion for PoE. Not "PoE2". If you think otherwise you're mazed beyond belief.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          7 acts + New gear socketing system + 7 new subclasses is a pretty big expansion.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >acts

            They have the opportunity to make it so you don't need to actually get through the campaign anymore and they just... make another campaign for you to have to get through.

            Bravo Chris.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              BFR is a turbo Black person who has some sort of acid trip rose tinted glasses about his "D2 experience". I can't wait to see all the QoL poo2 was supposed to bring disappear in the exilecon reveals.

              GGG has been skullfricking the game for the past 7 leagues. Current league is the worst league of all time, Ritual was the peak of the game, and they're hemorrhaging players every league

              poe 2 will continue the trend of worsening the game each new release. D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.

              Harvest scared them so badly they scorched earth'd the fricking game. Shouldn't have exposed how fricked your loot is in a loot based game when you continually make loot increasingly more important gayGGots.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >more than half the game's ascendancies are garbage that nobody uses
            >trusting GGG with making new ones that won't be DOA or nerfed into uselessness the next patch

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              GGG only ever let builds accidentally be good. the more combo bloat there is the less chance they will catch an op combo.
              The most OP build in the game (herald stackers) came from GGG trying to add cluster israeliteels and not having the proper time to check all the combos since they did it last minute. PoE2 will be fun for at least 2 leagues since the first nerf is always a non-nerf.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          u r a moron

          7 acts + New gear socketing system + 7 new subclasses is a pretty big expansion.

          it is a full fledged sequel. Gameplay centric entries like poe dont give a shit it is on the same expanded engine

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >it is a full fledged sequel
            >with the exact same endgame (which is THE GAME period) as current PoE
            "PoE2" is PoE. Simple as.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            These are the homosexuals defending poe... Holy shit.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >nooo I obey absolute labels, you can't be saying things I don't like, you are satan trying to trick my faith! Save me Blizzardman!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        GGG has been skullfricking the game for the past 7 leagues. Current league is the worst league of all time, Ritual was the peak of the game, and they're hemorrhaging players every league

        poe 2 will continue the trend of worsening the game each new release. D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          factually incorrect

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Drone moment

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            your game will die chris

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >expansion vs the league after kalandra
              >barely 20% more players
              keep seething

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Still fries my brain whenever I see someone praising the current state of the game over ritual and before. The game got destroyed so hard over the years that even the slightest "buff" is considered a game changer. Those freaks must have come late to the game and are completely overcompensating with time and money, and therefore taking it personally when someone says 'game bad'. homosexuals don't even realise how much was deleted from the game over the years, and that they being sold breadcrumbs as gold nuggets.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >D4 as saddened as I am to admit it will be a total hit.
          I wish you were wrong but I've been alive long enough to see the history and trends of video games to know that you're probably right.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Current league is the worst league of all time
          You mean League before this one? Kalandra had multiple major balance issues at the same time ruining the game for everyone from casuals to veterans and nolifers. Sanctum is like Blight League but less rippy.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            sanctum is a garbage mechanic. the rewards don't exist until you get to floor 4 and only meta builds can think about doing that fast enough that it's worth leaving maps for. melee gets utterly screwed as usual.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >the rewards don't exist until you get to floor 4
              Kek I got my first okay global Charm item in floor 2. Main problem with the mechanic is that the rewards are sporadic as frick. Lycia should guarantee a decent Charm but sometimes you get nothing. Meanwhile you can just get lucky and get a decent Diablo 2 Charm in early floors.
              >only meta builds can think about doing that fast enough that it's worth leaving maps
              It gives a decent chunk of xp on room clear, so if you just rush the trap rooms you get xp worth of 3 Syndicate members in 10 seconds with very minimal risk.
              >melee gets utterly screwed as usual.
              Thats why Sanctum is like how Blight League used to be. Melee builds couldn't beat the early Blight mechanic at all without failing them. Except Sanctum doesn't randomly one-shot you like early Blight used to do.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >skullfricking the game for the past 7 leagues
          The only (rational) explanation I have for this is that they're removing everything good only to bring it back later to the praise of all the idiots. The problem is, it's the equivalent to bloodletting and there's no guarantee people will come back. It's like a drug dealer stepping on the cocaine, losing all their customers, hoping that 1-2 years down the line once their reputation is in the shitter that the return of the good cocaine will bring people back.

          It doesn't help that Chris is probably a clinical sadist and enjoys the suffering. Anything is possible now with how much flesh they've carved from the game. Hell, you can expect CI to get changed or just straight up telling Standard players their Remove-Only tabs are getting deleted and they had "fair warning" once you couldn't sell anything out of them. Nobody's complaining about how shit the current league is because all the people with half a brain have left.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Chris making Exalts worthless destroying Standard is a next-level sadist move. All those people with Exalts tattooed on their bodies - get fricked.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Now question is will my potato pc able to run it?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Can your potato run current PoE? If so, then yes. It's the same game.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            As long if poe smoother work then I in.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    On D4 announce I was interested only in D4. Now I'm interested only in POE2. Funny, huh.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
    Diablo 4 is going to have a psuedo MMO experience thanks to it's always online instanced world.
    PoE2 is a hard pass considering the developers of PoE purposely make item drops rates insufferably low to help boost the trade e-con players. PoE is a Stock Broker Sim/Money Laundering scam.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      me like diablo me buy it

      simple

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Never played immortal but 3 was fun despite the usual Ganker sperg anger over it not being just like diablo 2, which they now claim has also always been bad. This board is terrible and barely anyone plays anything

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >3 was fun
        Not on launch it wasn't.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I am hoping that immortal being received so bad is causing a lot of course correction with D4. Battle pass and store is reduced to cosmetics only currently, so it's a start.

      Just a wait and see if the game itself is worth it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts. I don't think it'll stray away from cosmetics only unless they end up having some reason to sell stash tabs like PoE.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts.
          I get the impression that as a NA player of D3, the collection menu where you can see your pets, pennants & wings was a literal cash shop window in korea and china, but I don't know anyone who played it there. They built it for more microtransactions, but the NA and EU gamer culture was highly resistance to it then. Now, in a post-Fortnite world, I feel like the D4 cash shop will be a little bolder.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
      Blizzdrones are the most mentally unstable moronic fanbase that exists.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of people are also burned out by PoE and want to see it crash and burn at this point. I can imagine diablo being only mediocre, but that's probably enough for a lot of folks to frick off for good from baldo's wild ride. The only people liking poe currently, seem to be people who came late to the game and don't know it any better.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >A lot of people are also burned out by PoE and want to see it crash and burn at this point. I can imagine diablo being only mediocre, but that's probably enough for a lot of folks to frick off for good
          No that's wrong. 95% of the people who will buy D4 before release have never heard of PoE. They're just subhuman blizzdrones

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That might be the case. They are my guinea pigs trying the game out in early access.
            My entire friend list from poe's early days is dead, and actively hates on poe. Nobody wants to return to it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much this. D4 can be average. but there's practically 0 competition until PoE 2 comes out.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >paying price of entry for a game I might come back to seasonally for a few years
        >blizzdrone
        Blizzdrones are the brain damaged fricks trying to convince people that Dragonflight is good. I just like ARPGs.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    both look like shit, but at least poe has 11 years worth of content and wont make me pay for expansions every year

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I could sell this.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there are a few mtx that you can buy/sell on steam
      wich is weird since with all that stuff GGG can make more money

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >PoE 2
    >it's not a new game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty much an Overwatch 2 kind of deal. Some new systems replacing old ones (links etc), a new campaign, but much of gameplay remains fundamentally the same.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Man, POE ran so fricking bad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeha it sucks dick, I've got 2400 hours played.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    D4 is a shitty mmo with dailies and raids, it's not surviving the streamer-sponsored first week.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's sad but both are going to be shit.
    >Nu-Blizzard making anything that isn't a overtly cancerous cash grab full of troony shit
    >The kiwi Black folk have been going out of their way to murder their game over the last 2 years
    It's sad but D2:R is still the only thing that I enjoy for short spurts when they ladder reset.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    is D4 going to make me give them my phone number?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They already have it

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i have zero faith in blizzard making a good game anymore, i'm not even gonna think about picking up D4 until at least a month after release so i can see how everything shakes out.

    personally i found poe kinda boring in terms of plot which is really a shame because the game had some amazing setpieces, i just couldn't bring myself to really give a shit about them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      D4 is a shitty mmo with dailies and raids, it's not surviving the streamer-sponsored first week.

      I am baffled people still trust Blizzard at this point after Diablo 3 and Immortal.
      Diablo 4 is going to have a psuedo MMO experience thanks to it's always online instanced world.
      PoE2 is a hard pass considering the developers of PoE purposely make item drops rates insufferably low to help boost the trade e-con players. PoE is a Stock Broker Sim/Money Laundering scam.

      Frick you, when did Ganker hate Diablo?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        are you living in the 00s, blizzard gone to shit a long time now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't hate diablo, I hate blizzard

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Since D3 came out.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          D3 is good thought

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i bought it on release date. it sucked. i heard it eventually got better/good. frick off, the minute i buy the game i expect to have fun, not in some time later in the future.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I dont think that ARPG games have ever been good as the gameplay kind of always remains the same of grind so you can grind. Theres very little skill involved in the game where say player decisions effect gameplay, its instead, how good are your talents, how good is your gear, have you copied some autists build?

        I think if the game was very good then the best builds should be intuitively understandable, the gear should come to you in a manner that provides sensibility, not an endless pursuit of I need x y and z until I can then grind out better misscelaneous stats on my gloves or item enchantments or farming this rare boss.

        The game becomes boring as its just farming for the sake of farming. You know what would be cool is if there was genuine AI in the game so no two encounters were the same or bosses would adapt to your playstyle.

        I feel like for these types of games the budgets/technology is not there yet and we are basically just playing repeats of 90s games with better graphics and minor feature tweaks here and there.

        For all intents and purposes diablo type games you move around and shoot alegebra at circles until they go away and drop loot.

        Why not say have genuine unique items where no two players can have the same build so you cant farm shit or do cookie cutter builds?

        I feel like what ruins the genre right now is everything is figured out to a fine detail and if you dont use the resources on a site like say Icyveins or you arent autistic enough to do the math and spreedsheets on the best build/gear set up then you are actively gimping yourself.

        What really weakens these games is that a genuine sense of mystery and adventure are missing from them and it instead devolves into procedurally generated math problems that award you with dopamine if the stuff you want drops.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think there are games that lean more to the mechanical side of skill checks, rather than making it all about grinding and time.
          But I agree, the genre should have evolved from focusing on grind to a game focused on a more mechanically and movement based gameplay across the board. Maybe some sort of twin stick shooter with an elaborate item system, and monsters that don't just walk in a straight line into you or fling some brown pixel sized shit projectile at you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nioh 2 is kinda like that. Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system
              Lol what
              Nioh's loot system is far more complicated than diablo's

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Last Epoch allows for craftable gear and difficulty that scales with your skill rather than gear.
          Shame it will never leave Early Access

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty sure they said that they should have official launch before next year but we will see. The two subclasses I want to play still aren’t in. Feels bad man

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This multiplayer shitshow is pretty bad for them. It'll be a year since the last patch once it's "fully rolled out" and the most frustrating part of all of this is they are acting like the game is in full release despite, 'muh 1.0 release milestone'.
            On top the fact they barely were developing until this past year. Lol. Lmao. Shame because I fundamentally like the game.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              MP focus ruins ARPGs. I hope to God and the Bear that they don't balance drop rates and other shit around some homosexual twitch streamer trade economy like poe does
              Frick I hate trade so fricking much

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So what arpgs/single player arpgs do you recommend?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Oh forgot that the multiplayer is coming soonish. I'm still hyped for it, and will play it over any other most likely.

            Nioh 2 is kinda like that. Has a pretty simplistic Diablo-esque loot system.

            Nioh 1's DLC filtered me hard with too much bullshit enemies and placement, and overall the game was simply too hard for me. Can't go back to it, as my girlfriend doesn't want to hear me rage all the time. LOL

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Nioh 1's DLC filtered me hard with too much bullshit enemies and placement, and overall the game was simply too hard for me. Can't go back to it, as my girlfriend doesn't want to hear me rage all the time. LOL
              Put a lot of points in HP just like in Diablo 2/Path of Exile/Souls games. Then balance your gear weight so that your Toughness is A, while Agility is at least B. Should be way easier.

              Also you can cancel blocking into a dodge roll, that then cancels itself right into a block again, so technically as long as you have Ki you can defend indefinitely. Finally spells and ninja stuff levels up by using them, just like in Elder Scrolls games. So spam those free health regen/lifesteal spells to your hearts content.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >be fundamentally best ARPG on the market
            >keep procrastinating endlessly
            >take 4 years to release 14 small updates
            >sold out to Tencent
            >scrap trade
            >add MTX cosmetics
            What is happening to this game?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Last Epoch is exactly at the level of complexity I want in this genre and I love the current class design but holy shit the development is moving at a glacial pace. If they were hitting 1.0 a few months ago when PoE players were dooming during Kalandra the game would've been absolutely set by picking up fed up PoE players, but I think they totally missed their window of opportunity now.

            >From the beta, character systems in D4 don't even have a good avenue to sell player power or boosts.
            I get the impression that as a NA player of D3, the collection menu where you can see your pets, pennants & wings was a literal cash shop window in korea and china, but I don't know anyone who played it there. They built it for more microtransactions, but the NA and EU gamer culture was highly resistance to it then. Now, in a post-Fortnite world, I feel like the D4 cash shop will be a little bolder.

            There are MTX in Asia for D3, and you're right about those menus in particular. Ironically, the resistance to MTX in the west is probably why D3's continued development was so shit. Blizzard had no incentive to do anything big for their seasons since there was no recurring income from it.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I'm afraid they took too long to get the bun out of the oven. It's a shame because it's my favorite game currently in the genre but it's clear that it's mismanaged and they didn't have the manpower/funds to get it together when the window of opportunity was there.
              I figure after the Tencent investment cash dries up it'll just fade away like Wolcen.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Last Epoch are ARPG's last hope

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        When it became a mmo lite with no itemisation, mounts, and daily raids.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I hate Diablo 3 and I've hated Blizzard every since they changed Alterac Valley in WoW to have a ticket system. What changed from a fun intense battleground became a boring snoozefest

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        (almost) Everyone loves Diablo 2. I like Diablo 3 but understand why some people might have a bad opinion about it. Nobody believes current Blizzard can produce anything good, in this case Diablo 4, simply because they prove over and over again that they really can't.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Diablo - Immortal is the most profitable video game on the market, rivaling Genshin Impact.
          Blizzard lost their Chinese userbase, so they have no reason to continue to bend the knee at their behest.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the most profitable
            And not good.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >when did Ganker hate Diablo?
        Have you been sleeping since before D3 released?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ganker hates all the cool games now because of contrarianism. TLOU2, Elden Ring, D2Ressurected, D4. Like what the frick

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          [...]

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]
          Frick you, when did Ganker hate Diablo?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Elden Ring won GOTY 2022.
            Cope.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can tell you the exact date. It's whenever diablo 3 launched.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Diablo 1 is a flawed classic, an unpolished gem.
        Diablo 2 is a timeless classic.
        Diablo 3 has combat like buttered silk but the writing is intense cringe and the endgame is bizarrely dumbed down. Very much a product of its studio, which has had a long and painful decline in ability to make good games.
        Diablo 4 is quite definitely going to shit the bed, modern Blizzard couldn't find its own ass with both hands and an atlas.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 is LITERALLY, unironically just PoE. D4 will be shit but ostensibly it's a "new" game.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >modern blizzard shit

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t like RPGs with rare random loot that only have minor drop chances even from bosses, which force you to farm. I prefer RPGs we’re you can acquire the best items through normal gameplay through the story.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I prefer RPGs we’re you can acquire the best items through normal gameplay through the story.
      Okay, but why did you wrote this in thread about diablo?

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nah Diablo is dead now. The series died at 3.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 3 and PoE are mid games, nothing will change. If you like them great for you I guess.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      poe is a direct evolution upon d2 and improves upon it in every conceivable way. It is impossible to go back to d2 with how fricking clunky and archaic it is

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Except that Diablo 2 is fun and PoE isn't, so... not quite an evolution where it matters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        diablo 2 actually had items you could use dropping on the ground. and also had an identify all function.
        poe has all loot you find on the ground except currency be completely worthless. the opposite of what aRPGs should be.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >diablo 2 actually had items you could use dropping on the ground
          kek no it didn't. You did Baalruns and Gambled with Gheed for your gear.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            diablo 2 100% has good gear you can find that just drops. Im pretty sure you never played the game you just saw some streamer gambling for some random shit.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >diablo 2 100% has good gear you can find that just drops
              But so you can do the same in PoE as well. The problem is that you play Softcore Trade so you tweak your filter to only show currency so you can buy the desired gear you want from a chinese farmer bot. So of course you don't find anything valuable on the ground because you press the "win the game"-button too early. Play SSF.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I wasnt the guy arguing against PoE. I'm strictly a diablo 2 guy but I have nothing against PoE.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you play ssf, you have a defeatist mindset, and do so to remove yourself from a pseudo perceived competition. You cope by saying that you are enjoying it, that you are now free to use currency, but you know deep down that using currency is a waste, and ssf is pure cuckoldry that tunnels you into meta builds and absurd hours of grinding if you want to go anything but meta. It's a mode solely for racing, streamers, and neets who want to prolong the time to not think about their lives.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                casual detected, opinion discarded. Why don't you go back to playing your match 4 mobile games.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                While I can agree on that hc is complete bullshit due to one shot fiestas, ssf is just a waste of time. The idea to lock yourself up with the online casino is just beyond me. You might trick yourself into believing that you are now free to use currency for crafting, it is a waste of time and limiting you on so many aspects of the game.
                In the end, ssf cultists come across to me as people who simply want to drop out of a competition, they themselves put up in their head. As if it is important to compete in a video game.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                SSF is more fun because it promotes hoarding anything that might be even slightly useful later in the game. Trade League turns too much into EVE Online where you're just grinding for resource to use in Trade and nothing else.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                SSF rekindled my interest for this game after 8 years of sitting in hideout multimanaging tabs on my browser to get marginal upgrades on my character. That, and the fact that you can just slap on 2 obliterations on most characters, scale some generic damage and cruise through the entire game exploding screens due to the dumbfrick monster life scaling explosions. Walking around watching fireworks is not gameplay. SSF let me enjoy the game for a few more months, actually felt like I was playing something past PoB. Even then, I ended up quitting. Game's in a shit state, a clean start would help it so much. Just delete all the fricking bloat already.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Walking around watching fireworks is not gameplay
                The thing is, PoE players don't care about gameplay. They just want to farm currency like chink gold farmers and follow whatever FOTM build guide is popular.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >PoE players don't care about gameplay
                isn't PoE all about how fast you can pull the slot machine handle and chris wilson(10 cent) is slowing that down so he can keep and control how long you stay in the casino?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >tunnels you into meta builds
                >I don't make meta houses i build them with bird shit
                >I don't make meta cars i build them with straw
                >I'm not a meta doctor i use alternative medicine

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You could have simply said that you hate options and follow your favourite streamer's guide. Creating your off-meta builds was literally the genre about before poe ruined it, but okay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Creating your off-meta builds
                >Hehe finally after 2 hours in the fan made autism calculator i've made my 300k DPS build
                >Look at all those losers playing their 3m DPS day two builds hehe

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ssf is pure cuckoldry
                the frick is this beta cope?
                SSF is the best way to play ARPGs, sitting in trade and paying someone to kill monsters for you so you can get X or Y drop is cuckoldry. Why would you willing pay someone to play the game for you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                PoEgays are mentally ill. They play for the casino aspect, not the video game aspect.

                I'm so glad Blizzard will never implement full trading in D4.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day stupid little zoomer b***hhomosexual moron.

            >PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buygay shit from PoE
            this is factually wrong what the frick

            What's so different about PoE2 except it no longer running on a potato engine and having a simpler talent system?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >have a nice day stupid little zoomer b***hhomosexual moron.
              troony confirmed. You've never played Diablo 2, have you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                youre the subhuman moron who thinks items dropping on the ground are unusable in a game that lives and dies on its rare drop table

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the frick are you talking about, poe 2 runs on the same garbage engine they've always been using and there's no "talent system" to even simplify what the actual frick
              you fricking schizo moron redditfrogposter there is 0 reason to be excited for path of excrement but youre making me look bad with your made up babble.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                moronic newhomosexual tryhard ESL moronic waste of oxygen. Read the posts before replying to them with your autistic rage fueled misinformed shitposting. Die in a fire.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Stay mad.

                Why click on a thread of a game and genre you have no interest in, Mr reddit spacer? Literally woman on her period behaviour.

                Why make shill threads on my website? You're not free from being criticized. Deal with it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you sound pretty moronic anon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you never played D2 dumb Black person
            you grind 85 zones for months to get shit like deaths fathom/griffons/arach/god roll rings and cows for high runes to make nigma/infinity/fort/grief

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ARPG's went down the path of being just autistic loot grinds rather than one-and-done adventures like Diablo 1 with magical items that are very humble by comparison.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >game genres evolve past barebones garbage
      shocking

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you don't like THIS?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nice flicker strike you have there.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        what class is this? I want to go fast.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          monk

      • 1 year ago
        2Guns0Fucks

        I bet you only have to pay 10k for this build

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's D3, you can gear into that build with slightly less dashing usually within a day or two with some luck.

          Your tone and post have opened my eyes though as a D3 player. Immortal really has soured so many people on Diablo as a brand that it really bums me out. D3 has plenty of problems but the core combat is actually pretty fun, but it's impossible to make a case for this(or D4 going forward) because people hate everything Blizzard and Diablo by default now. Just bums me out.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I wish we could get a game with PoE's depth but with gameplay as smooth and polished as D3.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >PoE's bloat
              ftfy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but PoE actually has a beautiful amount depth in character building when it comes to mechanics. That doesn't deny that it's gated behind tons of unecessary bloat that should be removed. It also needs better clarity with their text. I swear GGG can't into hyperliteral.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >poe
              >depth
              Black person, what

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I mean compared to every other ARPG PoE's skill system has the depth of the ocean

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                poe skill system is "what if we took all the abilities and put them on gems"
                its a mess

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                filtered

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                so what are the three viable skills this league?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                People are killing ubers in HC with unlinked melee skills, anon.
                You're living in the past.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                post the three viable skills this league

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                seismic trap, ea balista, boneshatter, cold dot, toxic rain - is it enough?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                where the minion build?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                JESUS CHRIST CHRIS WILSON

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not that knowledgeable about those. I think srs is alright, absolution too and maw of something I think counts as a minion build as well

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                damn thought she'd look more autistic than that, she's kind of cute
                minionchads win again

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                too bad, she got nerfed to literal death
                thanks again chris :
                poegays get lose Kay but get to keep Lily

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry. This post

                I'm not that knowledgeable about those. I think srs is alright, absolution too and maw of something I think counts as a minion build as well

                is for (You).

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >PoE's depth
              You mean bloat? No thank you. D4 has actual builds and combat instead of the same AoE blob spam that is every single build in PoE.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >attack
                >defense
                >actual builds
                maybe if you're moronic

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What's the difference to total DPS and eHP?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >whats the difference between equiping items with the green arrow pointing up vs figuring out 60340202 mod and mechanic interactions
                You're unironically this moronic? No wonder poe makes you seethe

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >figuring out 60340202 mod and mechanic interactions
                "Will my AoE blob be purple or green" <--- PoE "mechanics" and "interactions"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >does this item have a bigger dps number than this other one
                >spam single skill
                damn these diablo mechanics are fire

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >does this item have a bigger dps number than this other one
                and then you look at the affixes and see they have zero synergy with the rest of your build and your actual dps has massively decreased

                >spam single skill
                LMAO
                what you're describing is PoE, not D3 or D4. Take your meds.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or D4
                I played 2 characters in the beta, my blood necro was basic builder spender with moronic burst every 5 casts, and my sorc just held down incinerate while he automatically shit meteors all over my screen.

                I don't think they're making particularly complex options in D4 based on what I saw.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Thats because you're moronic. Its like a monkey looking at math equations

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                PoE babby got blasted the frick out by a simple question. Amazing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The only one getting blasted the frick out is you for being a drooling moron

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              This, Diablo 3 is fun but holy shit the set system makes making builds completely pointless and rifts being the only endgame is just sad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          diablo 3 is a game that lasts for about 2 weeks and then youre done now

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            but so does a fresh poe league if it's not shit, which as of late they are

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Will 4 nerf our skills a bit? I hated the Xmen skills I had in 3 after a while, like the laser beam disintegrating everything. It wasn't about the fight anymore but the loot and grind gambling.
        I physically felt ill after a few hours each time, like I have been doing something wrong or unhealthy with 3. It had its moments but overall it is an unhealthy game to play.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, 4 is toned down quite a bit compared to 3. Maybe too much actually.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >hating on fricking Disintegrate
          Frick you.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        loved the monk class, all the sets were so much fun. I keep watching diablo 4 videos and it seems like they discarded everything that made reaper of souls fun. None of the classes or abilities look interesting. The combat looks slow/boring but its also gameplay from earlier levels. I would like them to post some videos of what we might expect from end game content/playstyle

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >loved the monk class
          Bro could you export the model using renderdoc?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The best thing they can do for "endgame" is that you kill Diablo and the credits roll and you're free to go play whatever's next in your backlog.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Then you don't understand this genre.
            >but Diablo 1!
            Is almost a completely different game from D2 and beyond.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Endgame in the beta was open world bosses, bounties, and nightmare dungeons

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is literally the only build that goes this fast across the entire game
        And it's subpar as frick

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    poe has been shit since a4 was put into it and diablo is dead. so poe2 will be absolute shit and d4 is just wow.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Western Woke games
    Hard pass

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PoE has started having more breasts with new monsters and characters. And PoE 2 is going to have a fantasy Dejah Thoris/Mata Hari in it in Act 2:

      Its graphical overhaul + new 6 link system + 1 extra subclass for each class. Not like they have to code the entire game from scratch. Thing about visual assets like modeling and animation is that shit takes time even if you're good at it. Animation isn't expensive because you need some wunderchild maestros to do it, Golden Age Disney hired and trained any young dude they grabbed from the streets. Its expensive because its time-consuming job so you need huge teams if you wish to make something big in relatively short amount of time.

      Also posting PoE2's Ranger concept art has gotten me banned from Ganker twice now.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I would shill for PoE2 if the direction PoE has had for the last couple of years left me with any inspiration. Frick me, what a fall from grace. Not that I think D4 is gonna be anything to write home about but frankly, frick GGG.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >PoE 2 will be an even worse RNG fest because of Chris Wilson's "Vision".
    >D4 will be microtransaction and battle-pass driven mobile port.
    I don't know whether I should envy people's hope or feel sorry for their stupidity.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >battleslop pass diablo 4
    >"increasing engagement" exile
    frick of chris wolcen, both are garbage, arpg as genre should follow up rts example and fade into obscurity if this and torchlight/wolcen are all we get

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Still looking forward to Last Epoch and the Wolcen update...A man can dream.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Last epoch is the only one I still have any hope for but eternal waiting for multiplayer kills me

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Multiplayer beta starts in like 15 days dude.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I wait since may 2021

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Man you guys are a bunch of b***hass morons in here and are pissing me the frick off with how utterly unintelligent you are. Borderline morons. Diablo "4" is LITERALLY Diablo 3.5 in the most literal sense possible. The game looks almost exactly the same. It's the same engine and everything. The entire game has been recycled. You can't call this a new game in any way shape or form. It's literally a Diablo 3 patch at most.

    PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buygay shit from PoE. Go for it if you like PoE I guess. Being excited for either though? Lmao what?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Who care? I will still play both.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The game looks almost exactly the same.
      Seek an ophthalmologist ASAP.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are a little disingenuous homosexual and I would beat the shit out of you, stupid homosexual c**t shill. It's the exact same game with a different color palette and some new models and changes to the lighting. It's not a new game by any means. At all. Literally a D3 expansion. Lowest effort shit of all time. homosexual b***h.

        Who care? I will still play both.

        >I have shit taste and am clinically moronic

        All I read.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm serious, get your eyes checked.
          You need urgent medical care.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      west cuck have nothing else meanwhile true ARPG chad will play Wu Long.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not even the same genre of games. Dumb ESL. WE true ARPG chads will be playing single player non resurrected grail collecting Diablo 2.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not the same genre

          lol cope you just suck

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            But it literally is a different game genre, moron.

            I'm serious, get your eyes checked.
            You need urgent medical care.

            >no argument

            Yeah ok stupid shill homosexual. Enjoy your 0.02 cents.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >reddit spacer is freaking out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >newhomosexual using buzzwords he doesn't know the meaning of trying his hardest to fit in

                Yeah stay mad shill moron.

                >But it literally is a different game genre, moron.
                >both are ARPG
                >one is just a click simulator
                >the other one has actual gameplay

                >isometric rpgs are the same as souls like third person action rpg games

                moron.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                rpgs are the same as souls like third person action rpg games

                you never played Nioh. Nioh is not like Souls kys moronic click monkey.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I've never played Nioh, because I like isometric rpg games, and not games like Nioh. moronic russian subhuman.

                If you unironically believe D3 and D4 look 1:1 graphically, yes, you need to get your eyes check. You likely suffer from cataracts, glaucoma or jus bad vision in general.
                Have someone drive you to the hospital, I do not recommend you attempt to drive.

                >same animations
                >same UI
                >same skill effects
                >same world design
                >same everything else except with new models, darker colors, and some gameplay changes

                Get cancer you worthless shill tumor.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah I've never played Nioh, because I like isometric rpg games, and not games like Nioh. moronic russian subhuman
                I'm not russian you ape stop getting butthurt over Nioh because it filtered you

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It didn't filter me because I've never played it. Stop typing like a moronic monkey.

                Imagine telling lies, being called out and now raging so hard. Bet you are already stomping with your feet. LOL!
                [...]
                Too sissy to answer. Close the thread and move on. It's that simple, woman.

                Where's the getting called out part, shill?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine telling lies, being called out and now raging so hard. Bet you are already stomping with your feet. LOL!

                Stay mad.

                [...]
                Why make shill threads on my website? You're not free from being criticized. Deal with it.

                Too sissy to answer. Close the thread and move on. It's that simple, woman.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Frick, I'm starting to think that you're legally blind.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why click on a thread of a game and genre you have no interest in, Mr reddit spacer? Literally woman on her period behaviour.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                that's not reddit spacing newbie

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >But it literally is a different game genre, moron.
              >both are ARPG
              >one is just a click simulator
              >the other one has actual gameplay

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              If you unironically believe D3 and D4 look 1:1 graphically, yes, you need to get your eyes check. You likely suffer from cataracts, glaucoma or jus bad vision in general.
              Have someone drive you to the hospital, I do not recommend you attempt to drive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >PoE2? Same thing with some updates, except you'll be losing all your buygay shit from PoE
      this is factually wrong what the frick

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    someone fricking please export the druid model from IV to other game, he doesn't deserve to be in a shitty cookie clicker RPG. I could put him in Bannerlord, if you guys want to. Just give me the raw model with bones and textures.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    poe is just not fun anymore

    every build has to be
    1) invincible
    2) boss tier single damage
    3) fast

    and onyl a few skills can achieve this outside of trade league

    i stopped playing this league, everyone seems to like sanctum but to me it's just not solving the real problems. don't ahve any desire to play, still my favorite game, but it just needs to turn the clock back on itself, sort of like classic wow.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i'm not paying 70+USD for a game and i'm not buying stash tabs for a tencent slot machine casino game.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I was in the D4 closed endgame beta, ask me anything.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How did you like it?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A little mixed. My initial impression was pleasantly surprised, but the more I got into it the more worried I got. The very small amount of legendaries and uniques made the build variety feel very limited, but I'm optimistic that release will have more of both. I am more worried about how fun the endgame grind will be in the long term. World bosses are alright but mindless since never once did we fail to kill them. Nightmare dungeons are an alright idea, but feel like tedious GRs with extra steps in practice. Also, the enemy balance was kind of wack with bosses being generally easy but elites being potential unkillable oneshots with the correct modifiers.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What's GR? And what class did you try out? Is the barbarian fun and varied in its play style? Was hoping that the game doesn't spiral down in shooting one-shot projectiles back and forth like in a certain other arpg...

          I like the genre, just not your garbage game. Also nice one exposing yourself as a pathetic shill with your tattoo comment. You can stop projecting too. Little homosexual.

          >Definite mad reddit freak spouting the same buzzwords to fit in

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            GR as in Greater Rifts from Diablo 3. I only played Necro, which was alright. Don't know about Barbarian except that they had some sort of damage stack exploit that let them oneshot world bosses, but I only saw one barb so it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexual that has never played D3 comes in a thread to argue with others and share his worthless opinion

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              That describes most blizzard haters tbh

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No I don't look like a cat.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I played it on release and dropped the game and company until I got d2:r gifted. Not sure why you discard anyone's 'opinion' if they didn't throw about their glorified DLC.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      how were endgame builds? do sets offer enough changes to builds to change playstyle? The only class i am interested in playing is a melee druid/not shapeshift.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sets did not exist in the beta, only legendaries and uniques. There were some cool modifiers, like an unique chest for necro that added shadow damage to bone storm that could potentially make for a shadow bone storm build, but in practice, a pure bone build still felt better. Overall, can't say too much on the variety of endgame builds since I only played the Necro, the beta had a limited amount of legendaries and uniques, and due to NDAs no one was sharing builds online.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How does melee feel, more like D2 or D3? I'm guessing attack rating is gone and will never come back. But does every attack that the barbarian has cleave everything? That was a huge change from D2 to D3, you never had to worry about your AoE vs your single target DPS in D3.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        From the very limited time I spent on Druid; no attack rating and in general attacks have some AoE, but I generally used Hurricane and Rabies to clear groups of enemies.

        Not sure why you clicked on me, but I'm not a nioh-gay.
        [...]
        Doesn't sound too bad from what you said so far. Do you have to run to each nightmare dungeon, or can you start it from where ever, like the mapping system in Path of Exile? Would probably be my only minor gripe to be forced to run over to each dungeon.

        You use a Sigil that determines the tier (pretty much GR level) and modifiers of the nightmare dungeon to activate, but you have to actually run to the dungeon entrance in the open world in order to enter it. Honestly, I would prefer an instant teleport (unless I completely missed such an option in the beta).

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the Diablo 3 RMAH

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      me too, made my money back selling a few shit yellows and Blackthorns Breeches

      I really dont see a huge difference between launch RMAH and POE's trading site where you copy paste API links to whisper people "I want such-and-such map for my Atlas, here's one Blessed" or whatever orb currency now. D2 spam in 2003ish on was just fricking crazy and letting people sell their shit made sense since thats what they wanted to do to one another anyways.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        RMAH was shit on because it was the first instance of it and was in your face.
        PoE gets a free pass because they slowly introduced all that greed under people's noses
        D3 and PoE ruined ARPGs.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no it wont you stupid Black person

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lol
    lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of that Celtics fan that got a 2022 championship tattoo and then they lost in the finals.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who doesn't have tattoos, some looked quite nice and didn't even 'reveal' that it is video game related.

      It didn't filter me because I've never played it. Stop typing like a moronic monkey.

      [...]
      Where's the getting called out part, shill?

      Completely mad and wasting his time on a thread of a genre he doesn't like. I'm calling it's a twenty-something homosexual who has nothing but outrage in his life going.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >thread about ARPGs
        >nioh gays interjecting their game
        I'm not even that anon but what is the point of bringing in souls shit in an ARPG thread?
        Nioh isn't Diablo, so why do we care?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Because Nioh 1&2 has a super simple Diablo 2 loot system?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So does Borderlands, but that doesn't make it an ARPG.
            Go away.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're probably the type of homosexual that tells people asking for MMO recs to play MOBAs.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I like the genre, just not your garbage game. Also nice one exposing yourself as a pathetic shill with your tattoo comment. You can stop projecting too. Little homosexual.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because Nioh 1&2 has a super simple Diablo 2 loot system?

        Wow, I can't believe I'm going to defend that visually impaired anon, but he is 100% right that Nioh is irrelevant to this discussion because it isn't a Diablo-Like/ARPG. It has no reason being even brought up in a thread discussing PoE/D4/Last Epoch and the like. They're not even in the same genre.

        Please go frick off, Niohgay.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure why you clicked on me, but I'm not a nioh-gay.

          GR as in Greater Rifts from Diablo 3. I only played Necro, which was alright. Don't know about Barbarian except that they had some sort of damage stack exploit that let them oneshot world bosses, but I only saw one barb so it.

          Doesn't sound too bad from what you said so far. Do you have to run to each nightmare dungeon, or can you start it from where ever, like the mapping system in Path of Exile? Would probably be my only minor gripe to be forced to run over to each dungeon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus christ all of these are the exact same person.

        I played it on release and dropped the game and company until I got d2:r gifted. Not sure why you discard anyone's 'opinion' if they didn't throw about their glorified DLC.

        Shut up moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Mad
          lol

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Who are you quoting?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The bible

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >work at company
        >refuse tattoo
        >get fired

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >record scratch
        >you're probably wondering how I got here

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    GGG will drop POE2 beta on Exilecon.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 4 will be fun for the first two weeks and then die off like all other Blizzard games. PoE2 is probably going to be shit, everything they have done recently in PoE has been ultra cancer.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I will consider buying it if there are no browns on the cover

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i will play the one with a better story.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >storygay

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather PSO style game. I loved PSO1 and want something like it. I wish PSO stayed true to it's roots.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's pretty sad that no other company has taken up PSO's mantle. Sega is a shitshow these days.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Niohchads dab on fricking PoE and Diabo loser. Play a real game not cookie clicker.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I am responding to this bait because I want to warn everyone to not feed this moron any further.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        t. conquered

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that's a vintage meme

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw nioh 1 beta threads
            comfy

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I miss the Nioh Alpha.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ever thinking in playing PoE2
    You are worse than fat bald "my vision" moron

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hope GGG re-learns how to make a good boss fight
    They haven't done a good one since Uber Elder and Uber Atziri

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you will play his game
    you will buy the supporter packs
    you will share in his vision

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      did he rehired that twitch streamer that called him baldo yet?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol nah that homosexual is done
        you don't frick with chris

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          did he rehired that twitch streamer that called him baldo yet?

          qrd?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            a schizo streamer called our lord and saviour Chris Wilson bald and said he should kill himself on stream because of balance changes
            schizo was then banned

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >two online-only SaaS
    into the trash it goes

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Will play both regardless

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this
      poe2 is free and I bought D4 by selling wow gold

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You know what you have to do

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Stream that movie if you're so great

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >playing Di*blo
    >ever
    PoE and PoE2 all the way. For how much of a moron Chris and his vision is, it's still the best in its genre BY FAR
    That could of course change, but based on what Blizzard have shown of D4 so far I doubt it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like the words of an addict.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I play two weeks at most every league. I'm fine

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PoE gays be like: ay yoo this game be poppin fr fr

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a huge d2 nerd. I remember the first weeks of d3 you could buy a weapon vs 240 bucks. Then, the next day, as they didn't fricking test the game, changed how the attack speed worked and now that 240 bucks weapon was worth nothing LMAO

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PoE has trash, overdesigned, too many mechanics and skill system for its own good.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >le braindead piniata clicker
    TPP ARPGs like Souls are the next step for the ARPG genre, Blizzard just didn't get the memo

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Friendy reminder Quin could not beat Nioh because he was to shit for it. This is your high skilled PoE streamer.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Quin a shit. Literally one of the worst PoE streamers
      That being said, Nioh 2 is kino but they really aren't comparable games. You're only after set bonuses. It's more like WoW in that regard.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You mean D3

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Never played. Does it have set bonuses?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The entire game is literally based around set bonuses that give the flavor of the month skill 10000000% more damage

            >slow players down
            >don't slow down monsters
            That's where the problem lies. If he blanket nerfs it'd be fine but he is insistent on only pulling back on player power when monster power has been powercrept along with players

            >player power is 10000x higher than monsters
            >balance the equation
            >"NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS IT IS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE GARBAGE HOW CAN I ZOOMZOOM IN THIS"

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >make monsters take 3000x longer to kill
              >they still drop the same loot
              If they want to make shitmobs relevant they need to give them actual drops.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              white mobs can 1 shot you in this game dont be an idiot

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nioh and PoE are two completely different types of games.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why are PoE gays so fragile?

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PoE is the antithesis of ARPGs, imagine purposely cutting drop rates to astronomically abysmal rates just so you can make a financial profit off player trades.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    D4 lost my interest when I heard it was an open world thing with other players randomly popping in and EPIC WORLD MULTIPLAYER ONLY RAID BOSSES that'll be mandatory for progression
    Frick those c**ts, just let me play a single player game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why do you suffer from social anxiety

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to play online
        I don't want to be FORCED to play with other people to progress my character
        I just want to enjoy a game by myself and then join with my friends when we all want to play together
        Stop forcing me to play with randoms

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    POE2 is literally the same game as "POE1". It's just a """"""huge"""""" expansion

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They could at least press the reset button on all the league mechanics that became permanent and reintroduce them alongside other shit as it makes sense. I don't think they're even doing that though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And that's a good thing

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >an expansion to the campaign, something everybody hates and wants to get a skip for
      wow great update there chris

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to play D4 with controller on my PC.
    If you haven't tried an arpg with a controller you're missing out. Such a chill and fun experience.

    is GGG even updating their console POE port?

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    At this point I have 0 (zero) faith in both Blizzard and Chris Wilson. I don't believe Acti-Blizz won't monetize D4 to hell :^) and back, possibly making it even p2w, while PoE is already fricking people over with their horrid pricing of cosmetics.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Man path of exile is so complex, man! So overwhelming! What do you mean I only follow my streamer approved build that has set everything for me in stone? I a-am not a homosexual. S-stop laughing. STOP
    Yeah, pathetic to be honest. No right to talk down any other game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for proving the point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Might as well call Ziz troony's poe university a real degree.Did you print that one out and put it on your wall? Holy shit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You should print it as a thanks for letting morons like you play the game

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The irony in this post is staggering!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Do you even know what that word means or just throwing buzzwords?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just because you're incapable of making your own builds doesn't mean everyone else is a mouthbreathing moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >making your own builds
        >Trade
        >Please guys i need some leveling gear
        >Merc lab carry please
        >Please A10 kitava kill please guys
        >Finally i have 180 divines for starter gear time to enter red maps spooky

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like you're bad at making builds

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically git gud
          You can do red maps in a tabula

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Black person

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://clips.twitch.tv/SaltyInventivePoultryBrainSlug-L2NY8noLDHq4Y379
    >your average PoE hardcore league experience
    lol
    lmao
    Nice game, cucks. D4 will be even worse.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what happened

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You tell me. Chris Wilson doesn't want to implement a death log/recap, so you can only guess.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >last epoch tells you what enemy and damage type killed you
          It seems like such a small thing why is it such an unreasonable request for PoE?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Chris Wilson's autism.
            >why is it such an unreasonable request for PoE?
            People have been asking for it for ages, and he just says "no".

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What part of Chris’ vision do you not understand?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                All of it. Please explain.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because not knowing what killed you is part of the core Diabe-girlke experience
            -Chris "Fat Bald Frick" Wilson

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He logged out when the boss was doing a slam attack then zoned back in and didn't wait for it to go off, since the area is basically paused until you zone back in, a known bug (feature).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Diablo has never been about abusing log out macros to beat content literally designed to one shot you because the developers realize that players are so strong that there is nothing that can possibly kill them unless enemies or bosses randomly just oneshot you out of nowhere.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If they don't like logout macros they could, I don't know, maybe block their usage OR if they don't know how to do that they could start banning streamers that aren't hiding themselves with their usage. You know - to set an example.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          hardcore is literally designed around logout macro being a thing, streamers are free advertising for them. Removing / banning logout macro would kill the entire hardcore playerbase overnight

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    diablo iv looks like trash
    poe 2 seems to be in dev hell.
    poe 2 was suppose to come out 2020 btw

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      gee it's not like something happened in 2020 that halted production worldwide or anything

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        New Zealand was barely affected, and GGG outsources a lot of stuff to China. The company is badly managed and wastes time on pet projects that go nowhere.
        Where is the phone game by the way?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >been over 3 years since exilecon
          >not a peep about the mobile edition since
          >going on 2 years since last update for poo2
          >now has been 2 years of the worst leagues and state the game has been in since pre-2.0
          >"here have hard mode lmao"
          honestly it's impressive just how openly hostile and antagonistic ggg is to the playerbase.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Halted production of what exactly? Last time I've checked there were some delays but people actually kept working on vidya.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The skills in this game have no impact at all. Sorcerer skills look like the weakest shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The beta burn build felt pretty satisfying once I got all of the burn procs and the 3% chance to cast meteor on burn tick. Lightning animations are shit, I can barely even tell when the skills were actually cast it and I didn't play frost enough to have an opinion.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        All the basic skills look like ass and uninteresting, lightining effectes are the worst I've ever seen on a game, it looks like fricking plasma.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          When chinks can make better skill animations and effects you know shit is bad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Right, basic skills aren't flashy at all. In fact, everything until you get down to the mastery skills is pretty underwhelming for every element. Even ball lightning in mastery looks like shit though, they really need to make every lightning effect thicker and brighter before release.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's incredible how such a core part of this game can be so fricking bad as it is, not even Diablo 3 had such shitty skills.

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >D1 gays want D4 to be D1 II
    >D2 gays want D4 to be D2 II
    >D3 gays want D4 to be D3 II
    You're all going to be disappointed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's in fact going to be Lost Ark II

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ssf chads ww@?

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Blizzard or GGG
    Both are ratshit now.
    PoE2 is going to be just as shit, if not MORE shit than PoE currently is.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PoE2 is gonna be The Vision unleashed, without the baggage of PoE1 to keep it in check.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Globally enforced SSFHC, Ruthless, No stash, Staff only, Half skillpoints, No ascensions.
        THE VISION

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Globally enforced SSFHC, Ruthless, No stash, Staff only, Half skillpoints, No ascensions.
        THE VISION

        One month for completing the tutorial acts. The vision, I can feel it.

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why are people acting like poe and d4 target the same audience?
    poe is for sweaty autists that want to play gambling simulator that also happens to play like a 20 year old game

    d4 is for dudebros who want to drink beer and relax in the chair while mowing down hordes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've been playing both D3 and PoE for years because I'm autistic and isometric games are comfy for me...

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why am I fighting knockoff Nurgle demons in Diablo4 instead of blizzard demons?

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Leave ARPGS to me.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm hyped. If this one doesn't make it, the genre can be killed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Black person paladin
      >he has the best VA
      why?
      Also, 1.0 fricking never.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Complete dogshit. Even worse than D2. D3 is lightyears ahead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        b8

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >last sleepoch
      kek

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Way to say that you are a poe addict

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's honestly astounding how much public opinion has fricking tanked on PoE. A few years back it was universally praised. Now my gaymur normie friends are parroting shit about the vision and saying it's trash. How the frick did they manage to ruin it so bad?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They let the trade sim econ """gamers"""" dictate the balance of the game.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn't. The problem is and has always been Chris, Neon, Rory and Jonathan. They're fricking morons. From the get go they decided to balance the way MTG does, in blocks, with certain builds being clearly the best, 2ish builds being middling and the rest being dogshit. They do this because "true balance is impossible, therefore we will simply make things fresh and new."

        I could write a fricking thesis and the problems with that moronic line of thinking, but the most important thing is that PoE is built on choice and customization. The style of balance they do actively kills choice and customization. There is no real choice if you are forced to play what they want you to play. There are a million other issues with the game but THAT one in particular has been poison in the well for the better part of 9 years and it's coming to a head because people are done playing the builds the top kiwi morons are trying to force them to play.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I could write a fricking thesis and the problems with that moronic line of thinking
          on the problems with that moronic line of thinking*

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only addicts are left praising it. Nobody likes seeing their builds getting deleted en masses, no buffs to underused or dead skills. One shots still a thing. It's fricking tiresome how they are actively working against you, and cater to streamers and neets exclusively. They forgot that is a fricking video game along the way.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The moment I was finally able to let go was when I heard a streamer unironically say "That's only like 200 hours of farming. That's not that bad."

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Frick man, you should have archived that snipped. I'm dying.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Support gem nerf
      Every build that was shit but playable became unplayable, Strong builds just lost a bit of power.
      >Archnemesis
      The final nail in the coffin, they gigabuffed all rare/magic mobs in the game into being raidboss tier scary, but at the same time nerfed the loot they drop into the fricking ground. I know they PARTIALLY undid archnemesis now, but the loot remains at rock bottom.
      >Crafting
      They pretty much gutted or removed any form of crafting that isn't either putting +10% resists on a mediocre item or for those top 0.1% who have currency coming out of their fricking buttholes.
      >Nerf player power, Increase monster damage
      Every league mobs get faster and deal more damage, and yet players get slower and deal less damage. Now only a handful of builds can deal good damage and MAYBE survive. But you'll still randomly die every now and then to a random shitter mob that deals 50k phys damage on a single basic attack.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      someone got this mad idea that a silly little Diablogame isn't about clicking a button and having screens full of skeletons explode and drop piles of treasure, and that it isn't just a big power fantasy. and also for some reason that the integrity of the "economy" is more important than the game being fun. even when they made the trade experience insufferable and only fit for bots, on purpose.

      so they nerfed everything and made it a pain in the ass, believing this is some deeply mechanical game and that people should be struggling through the story campaign - even though the temporary 3 month league challenges suggest you should be farming uber maven 1000 times no problem.
      they nerfed skills based on usage even if they were just popular, but not provide any alternatives. they've even brainwashed the community into believing any fun skills are 'busted' and should be nerfed instead of just letting us have fun.
      if you dedicate your entire atlas to a certain type of content it's still sometimes barely even worth, like Ritual. anything you randomly get in a map without being fully specced is utterly worthless.
      they are "most proud" of their loot system even though you have to filter 99/100 items to make the game playable. they talked about overhauling it for years but only gone backwards. they introduced "lucky" talismans which were great then removed them. they introduced Harvest to make crafting actually approachable and fun, then nerfed it into the ground out of shame, whilst now also nerfing the already bullshit crafting system.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >How the frick did they manage to ruin it so bad?
      By doing the exact thing they themselves have said multiple times not to do as a game developer. They gave the average player a completely ridiculous amount of power with harvest on top of all the powercreep that had been building, then gutted harvest while nerfing everything else, and finally archnemesis original implementation was where shit just went completely off the rails.

      Everyone always focuses on the loot problem with archnem but even ignoring that GGG was completely out of their fricking mind thinking people were going to be excited to log into the same game they've been playing for years with barely any new content but literally every single skill in the game feels worse.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was a perfectly coinciding shitstorm of building resentment on various smaller issues, archnemesis and nerfing player power.
      Which was obviously needed. Praise Chris and the Vision

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >chris wilson
    >jay wilson
    what did they mean by this?

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Be moronic kiwi
    >See that people optimize the campaign out of their playtime
    >Waste 6 gorrilion dollars making a brand new campaign that people will optimize out of their playtime

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Makes me laugh every time that they waste so much time and money on a new tutorial. You can bet your ass that they are going to slow you down in new ways you can't circumvent.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >be dev
      >see players are trivilizing content through unintended means
      >balance the game so that they actually have to play the game
      >get villianized
      whats the winning play?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The game will always be trivialized by the top players. There is absolutely no getting around this. The only thing they're doing now is ruining the game for everyone else.

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 4 will be the coup de grace to BFRs vision
    never thought I'd be more excited to play diablo than poe

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    someone needs to make an arpg with dialbo 1 combat scope and atmosphere but with battlerite type combat
    its time this genre innovate instead of just lootshit everywhere

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >combat scope
      what

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    D3 was bad
    PoE was bad
    There's no excitement

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