Did it really almost kill the franchise with no revival or is that just a myth

Did it really almost kill the franchise with no revival or is that just a myth

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, that’s johtoBlack person headcanon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it didn’t you LESBIAN wiener

      Not it’s not you GAY c**t

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn’t almost kill the franchise. However Genwunners seethed so much about non-Kanto pokemon having the spotlight that they threw a tantrum and gaslit casuals into hating Unova for stupid reasons. Masuda was so sad about his magnum opus being attacked for stupid reasons that he stopped trying

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      both of these are myths

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >didn’t almost kill the franchise
      >Masuda stopped trying

      So it killed the franchise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gen 5 didn't kill the franchise, the response to it did. The fallout would make sure that Gamefreak would never push K-K-K-K-KANTOOOOOO out of the spotlight ever again.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The response which it caused by not including KANTO in maingame therefore killing the franchise.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon stopped being a normalgay franchise during gen 3. Gen 5 brought little impact when the damage was already done

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It was a myth.

      What actually happened was the rise of social networks which connected both the nostalgiagay side with the actual fans side. But the actual hate always came from people who left the franchise long ago.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friendly reminder that the true culprit of Pokemania's demise was the consolewars between Nintendo and Sony.
      Sony won by a longshot thanks to PS2 being marketed as a console for teens/young adults while Nintendo was subsequently labeled the kiddie table of video games. It doesn't matter HOW good your games are by that point, no kid wants anything to do with that when they'll be seen as total fricking losers while everyone else is causing mass mayhem in GTA or bonding with their fathers over sports games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemania died during Generation II.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It almost died during Gen 1 too, then everyone loved GSC and that extended it. Gen 3 failed to do that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >during
        Yeah, but it wasn't because of it

        Friendly reminder that the true culprit of Pokemania's demise was the consolewars between Nintendo and Sony.
        Sony won by a longshot thanks to PS2 being marketed as a console for teens/young adults while Nintendo was subsequently labeled the kiddie table of video games. It doesn't matter HOW good your games are by that point, no kid wants anything to do with that when they'll be seen as total fricking losers while everyone else is causing mass mayhem in GTA or bonding with their fathers over sports games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shame it didn't kill him, frick ugly homosexual

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think for many people that the time period of Generation V was a nadir in the overall fanbase's interest in Pokemon.

    It's hard to say exactly how much damage BW, Gates To Infinity, etc., were going to cause to the Pokemon franchise's popularity long-term, given how successful Generation VI with XY was in galvanizing interest. The only real way of gauging this is just counting how many people who weren't kids back then (i.e., were teenagers or older), who look back and still assess Gen V negatively.

    Unovabortions like to imagine that most people now have done a double-take on it, when the reality is just that their cohort all grew up.But since there's never been a systematic survey of what people hated about it then, there's little definitive way of going about finding out why and how many people hate it even now.

    People who hate BW will probably confidently tell you it would have killed the franchise. The sales numbers did dip and there's been no other modern games before the past half decade that received worse publicity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think for many people that the time period of Generation V was a nadir in the overall fanbase's interest in Pokemon.
      Only by the modern definition of "fanbase".
      But by the original one no, because anyone hating it wasn't in the fanbase to begin with.

      >how many people who weren't kids back then (i.e., were teenagers or older), who look back and still assess Gen V negatively.
      pokemania kids were in their 20s by that point.

      >The sales numbers did dip and there's been no other modern games before the past half decade that received worse publicity.
      Large media franchise celebrate less than 10 million.
      BW sold 1.5 that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anyone hating it wasn't in the fanbase to begin with
        that's nonsense

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          EVERYONE I know who hitched upon release never played Pokemon games. They just remembered the pokemania with OTHER people playing and maybe watching the anime, while saying shit like “they ran out of ideas, this isn’t what I grew up with” even though they never grew up with it to be able to cringe at newer shit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why does watching others play don't count?
            Also, the whole point of the anime was to get people hooked on Pokémon even if they didn't play videogames.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It almost did, it was so bad it even hurt XY's sales, but XY course corrected hard enough to save the franchise.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    actually the best generation in the series

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. Gen 6 almost killed the franchise.
    Proof: Observe the state of pokemon prior to 2016. It was having its lunch eaten by Yokai Watch in the Motherland, and nintendo was shitting and farting themselves in fear over the future of the IP. Gen 7 released ripping off half of Yokai Watch features in a pokemon version, and pokemon Go like it or not revived the franchise by getting millions of normalgays hyped into pokemon again. Pokemon go is casual dogshit but you can't deny its release was the genesis of a second pokemania.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yokai Watch was definitely explosively popular, but it's important to note it had already lost steam by the time sun and moon came out. The anime was tanking, and Yo-kai Watch 3 was a sales flop. Sun and Moon coming out a few months later was more the nail in the coffin than anything.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it didnt, gen5 sold amazing

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    its a failed Reboot

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the DS era was a time when normies would openly mock the series. it took xy and go to bring the series back to popularity.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most important part about Pocket Monsters are the monsters and the monsters in Gen 5 were shit therefore the game were shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But enough about Galar

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think these games were not popular in the west, which is because muh old mons, but was successfull in japan. I mean with gen7 we started to get more and more unova references. Also the subway leaders are like really really popular

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The games were very successful in Japan
      Japan has a better understanding of lore and such, which is why the storytelling didn’t resonate with westonwrs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Japan has a better understanding of lore and such,
        ngl anon but this sounds incredibly wrong, but it's not like I can disprove this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i worded it like a tard but i more so meant
          the story in BW is more of a traditional JRPG story, so maybe not "lore" but most westerners didn't really give a shit about the story (myself included) but its clear BW takes a lot of inspiration from JRPGs, so maybe it just appealed more to them because of that, and Japan has a lot of games with the themes present in BW
          or maybe you're right and i'm completely of the mark,

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nah that makes more sense. The story of bw is actually a coming-of-age story. Where even the ending is all about
            >ok anon now it is your time to make your decisions
            and I am pretty sure these games were targeted at highschool kids instead of elementary/early middle school kids. Because the ones who beat og gen1 as kids, where then like in that age. Even the protags were older the first time and they heavily emphasized more on the jrpg aspect of the games.
            That's why yes anon I agree with you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nah that makes more sense. The story of bw is actually a coming-of-age story. Where even the ending is all about
            >ok anon now it is your time to make your decisions
            and I am pretty sure these games were targeted at highschool kids instead of elementary/early middle school kids. Because the ones who beat og gen1 as kids, where then like in that age. Even the protags were older the first time and they heavily emphasized more on the jrpg aspect of the games.
            That's why yes anon I agree with you.

            If not a samegay, you are both pretentious idiots.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even if it's one guy he makes sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't. "BW is more of a traditional JRPG story" is total nonsense. It's pretty much the same story as RSE/DPPt, most differences are shallow.
                >coming of age story
                Hilbert's/Hilda's development is literally no different from that of the previous protagonists. Cheren is just Green/Blue badly LARPing as a philosopher. Bianca is May without any of the charm but you're supposed to care because her father has STRONG WRONG OPINIONS. N is just Wally turned into an even more "special boi".

                And while I'm at it, Ghetsis is a fricking idiot that got as far as he did due to plot armor. The more you know about his methods, the more stupid the whole thing gets. It's utter nonsense.

                BW being loud and obnoxious about having a "complex/mature story" does not magically make it so. EVERY. SINGLE. person praising this crap cares more about pretending that it's something amazing rather than truly discussing it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do BW threads have so many morons that capitalize random words? Is it just one super homosexual?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no argument

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Black and White saved the series by introducing pokemon to new kids.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look at all of these false flags

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It started with DP and BW was just too late on the DS life.

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