newbie and undertale fan here, I heard that Toby Fox stole melodies from other songs. Prove it.
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newbie and undertale fan here, I heard that Toby Fox stole melodies from other songs. Prove it.
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He stole character designs
Maybe is just inspiration, that's like saying Mickey Mouse is a copy of Oswald
Good point anon.
who dis
Sariel, the Angel of Death from Touhou 1.
Does this man have no shame
Sans and Papyrus are The Judge and Dedan from OFF.
plagiarism is like a bed of nails
one nail and you're in trouble. a thousand nails and you're fine. everyone who's worked in a creative industry will tell you that.
This. Rip one detail off, and you're a thief. Rip them all off, and it's a homage.
True
No.
I don't see any proof he didn't steal it, please make better posts
he did steal music chud, i have a gut feeling
He didn't. There is some two second track that he said was done completely with premade effects, but he definitely never stole anything.
They were most likely talking about him re-using his own melodies in a lot of tracks, which most educated people know is called a "leitmotif".
I was asking because I found this copypasta
>he doesn't know
Esta es megalovania si le subis la velocidad x2
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By God Forsaken is way too accurate lol
Only the intro, maybe is just a coincidence
And this one
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>anon learns about chord progression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aezSL_GvZA
I guess you also think all anime music is plagiarized from Rick Astley, huh?
>chord progression
>chord progression
>chord progression
Megalovania wasn't similar in chord progression, but main melody.
no its isnt, they just both have riffs descending down the blues scale
>songs sound vaguely similar and have similar chord progression
>toby fox stole the songs
These two things are not the same, fricking moron.
I'm OP, anon. I think is all just similar, not stolen like the other anon
Can you define what a stolen song looks/sounds like
Not that anon but I do not believe there is a clear line.
Melody, arrangement, lyrics, cord progression.
There is so much you could rip off and most of the time it is more of a feeling of "this is going too far" which might depend on who you ask
also if you are into pop music often times there are the same producers behind these artists
Here is an example of something that is definitely over the line for me
But frick I don't know if everyone into music would even agree. A quick google search shows there was a court case but they were not found guilty of plagiarism so apparently I am the dummy.
I personally think Toby Fox was just inspired
yeah none of the examples here really go too far
That sounds less egregious than most of the Toby examples
None of them come close to ripoff
Some could be inspiration and others could be just trying to closely fit a theme and be very generic
it can also be a coincidence
>megalomania got removed
Frick SE
I’m not going to go through all this shit.
Cope indie gays, your game sucked ass.
arrest sperg, your taste sucked tho.
>evading the subject
Ain’t evading shit. I ain’t listening to 5-10 links over and over again. I’m not getting paid to look for it.
The tl;dl is that at worst there's some similar notes, but the songs are pretty different apart from that
like a good israelite, toby knew exactly what to steal to become popular
i tip my hat to the homosexual, he got even to the pope
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Glad to know the morons on Ganker can still manage to get even dumber than I ever thought possible.
>one man finds great success due to his own merits with a dash of luck and produces something that resonates with a lot of people
>moron still seething
>undertale fan
more like... underage gay
Anon, Undertale was released in 2015. Unless they were 11 years old when they first saw it, chances are they're actually 18+. Time flies, don't it.
oh right, i forgot this game didnt gain any new fans since 2015
The vast majority of people got swept in that time so mostly, yeah. Even if he was underage, he ain't being a gay anyways and still pretty big chances for higher age, so frick it, higher quality OP and thread than the average shit you see in this place.
Toby Fox supports guilt regardless of innocence so frick his music stealing ass. Maybe he will make another game defending literal child murderers and I'll get to hear from Zoomies and cancerous E-Celebs how much of a genius he is again. have a nice day homosexuals.
Undertale is a Christian game. Toby supports the idea of forgiveness and second chances, not killing children.
Toby Fox is a godless degenerate
Undyne’s theme is stolen, it’s some metal song from 2003 or so.
Iirc Metaton’s theme is stolen.
Only the intro is a coincidence, the rest is not
You got BTFO'ed in the Live A Alive thread and made this one looking for more? God, you're pathetic.
What the frick are you talking about anon
This is like the third
>Toby is stealing everything REEEEEEE
thread today
OP here, I only wanted to read your arguments about it instead of denying everything without listening. I only made this thread
This topic has been done to death. We all know you're full of shit
I don't know what you want me to say, have a nice day I guess
This sounds way too similar , toby must've gotten inspiration or something
Yasunori Mitsuda stole songs and ideas from Joe Hisaishi.
dear anonymous youtube video comparison poster,
a lot of the videos youve linked have been taken town.
- love, anonymous
Being inspired is not the same as "stealing a song"
This isn't like George Harrison getting sued for "My Sweet Lord" sounding too much like "Be My Baby".
He stole songs from others and also from himself.
Stealing is fine as long as no one notices
It might not have been outright theft but relying this much on existing melodies and making leitmotifs out of them certainly takes a lot of his acclaim as a composer
It's like finding out your favorite artist traces over 3D models and that all his original characters are actually old obscure characters changed up slightly, it's all legal and moral but definitely deflates the skill and creativity you thought they had
Maybe it does for you
No it does that objectively, but you might not consider it as such due to personal bias.
I don't think you know what that word means
I don't think you do
You might consider it due to your personal bias
Objective reality doesn't care about your personal bias
Indeed, that's why it doesn't objectively do it
It objectively does though
>making original compositions and making original compositions are the same thing
>they are objectively the same
>making original compositions and taking existing compositions are objectively not the same thing
>you might consider them the same due to personal bias
He made original compositions
By being similar to existing melodies and compositions, they are by definition not original, I'm sorry your personal bias is at odds with reality
Having a few similar notes =/= not original
Sounding like existing music =/= original
While I don't think Toby Fox stole songs I think he should've give credit to the original authors for inspiring him. If not that would be hypocrisy
That has nothing to do with what he's talking about in that image though. It was about Matpat using other people's games for israelitetube bucks with zero credit and instead of realizing his capacity to help the indie devs he's using for clicks he doubled down and pissed and cried so bad even Toby had to break character to tell him off. You should really include full context for things if you're basing your entire argument on it or it makes you look like you're intentionally obfuscating information.
Toby Fox is using other people's music for a game with zero credit and instead of realizing his capacity to help the original authors and the music he's using for money he looks away while everyone kneels down at his game. Cope
Okay well if you're just going to ignore whatever I say I'll just leave you with a nice picture of a duck and you can maybe go do your laundry or something. Something productive instead of whatever this is. Have a nice day.
How is he ignoring what you're saying? He directly addressed it.
Okay well if you're just going to ignore whatever I say I'll just leave you with a nice picture of a duck and UGHK
Toby has literally already said that his biggest inspirations are touhou and Earthbound. Like he blatantly openly says this.
What about everything else?
It's ok to steal as long as you have a strong fanbase to protect you and that's filled filled with uncultured morons.
No.
some schizo will tell you about stealing spongebob songs but that's about it
How's the game called