DISK 1 - KINO. DISK 2 - KINO. DISK 3 - KINO. DISK 4 - KINO. FINAL FANTASY 8 - KINO

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FINAL FANTASY 8 - KINO

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  1. 10 months ago
    saucy

    where did all these FFVIII appreciators come from?

    What happened to Cecil and ExDeath moralgays?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume it's the newest youtuber-issued personality.
      Not that I mind, the spoony-issued FF8 haters were gays anyway.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      zoomies played the Final Fantasy VIII remaster on the PS4 and now they think its the best thing ever dispite Final Fantasy VIII being stuck in the middle between Final Fantasy VII, and Final Fantasy IX who, along with Final Fantasy VI are vastly superior to it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up about IX already it sucks shit. Characters are fricking terrible except for Steiner, the story is gay, and the battle and equipment systems are bad. Stop with this homosexualy BUT MUH FANTASY ROOTS bullshit. have a nice day.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and the battle and equipment systems are bad
          Compared to "spam limits for free forever"? FF9's combat is not perfect and Trance is a shit mechanic but it's VASTLY fricking superior to the dogshit 8 mechanics. There's a reason they took FF9 as a base line for Lost Odyssey.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they took FF9 as a base line for Lost Odyssey
            What?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >spam limits for free forever
            That's a choice. No one is forcing you to do that. Just because you can do something doesn't make it an intrinsic problem, if you disagree with it, don't do it. The good thing about FFVIIIs entire battle system is that there are a lot of different ways to play.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You literally need a guide to NOT break 8. It's that badly designed. It's not a player choice at this point, it's a minefield of terrible design choices.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a common opinion and I understand why people say it, but I still think the the breadth and variety of the combat makes it superior to IX, so I guess we'll just both go our separate ways.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know a single person who first experienced FF VIII on PS4 or switch and proclaimed it, hell, at least a good game.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It's the best FF bar none. Anyone who says otherwise is a closeted homosexual like

      • 10 months ago
        saucy

        You don't even know how to fricking curse and you're calling me a b***h for wieners.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, but what's wrong with his curses? Closeted homosexual is an apt description for any FF8 non-enjoyers.

          • 10 months ago
            saucy

            >What's wrong with his curses

            Closeted homosexual is a particular quality you attribute to someone devoted to their lust for men. Do you think I have something to fricking hide?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, being a homosexual should be something ashamed and hidden unless you are mentally ill, it's honestly a fair assumption. I like to believe that at least subconsciously people still try to think better of people around them, so naturally without thinking that anon assumed that you might be a homosexual, but still reasonable enough to be ashamed of your mental illness because he thought better of you.

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                You're mentally ill. You're generally speaking from the mouth but I can see you think the things you type are fricking stupid. You don't even believe have the shit you talk about, you just run your fat fricking mouth all day because the closest thing to an angry citizen you'll ever see is some nobody on Ganker.

                Get fricking lit up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                >Imprecations and implications abound, while the reservoir of pure fricking reason stands still on anons shoulders

                Yes you, moron. I am talking to you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You aren't talking, you are spewing nonsense and being unreasonable, further proving my point. I am not interested in shitting up a decently reasonable thread any further and give you any more attention you seek past this post, you are neither fun or interesting enough for that.

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                I don't think I need to help. I've done nothing wrong but ask a question, if it weren't for your funny fricking lips rumbling out of rhythm, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think I need to help. I've done nothing wrong but ask a question, if it weren't for your funny fricking lips rumbling out of rhythm, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

                damn bro he just called you boring
                there's no coming back from that as a namegay, it's simply over

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                Especially since it was unannounced and moronicly complex erotic roleplay.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but what's wrong with his curses? Closeted homosexual is an apt description for any FF8 non-enjoyers.

                >What's wrong with his curses

                Closeted homosexual is a particular quality you attribute to someone devoted to their lust for men. Do you think I have something to fricking hide?

                I am that anon, and other anon is correct. I intrinsically knew he was a homosexual because FFVIII is devoted entirely to the romantic love only a man and woman can share together. It is literally the pinnacle of what a man can feel and experience in his life and only gays and troons hate it because they can never share in the joy of true human bonding like we can.

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                I'm happy for you and your monosyllabic approach, but I would implore and remind you to use your thinking words and try less to be a dipshit on Ganker.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the romantic love only a man and woman can share together
                >the pinnacle of what a man can feel and experience in his life
                pick one

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Those things are one and the same. Have you never been truly in love and had that love returned, anon? There is nothing greater this world has to offer, except perhaps seeing your son grow and mature into a man like yourself, which is really the ultimate expression of that love at the end of the day

                I'm happy for you and your monosyllabic approach, but I would implore and remind you to use your thinking words and try less to be a dipshit on Ganker.

                If you're on hormones it might not be too late to stop, turn your life around, and finally appreciate the finest jrpg known to man

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                You want to roleplay, so let me give you some advice.

                Do not roleplay with someone who can easily overpower you. And that goes for anything, intellectual power, emotional power, even physical ability. The next time you want to mince words with a funny feller over Ganker, you should ask whether or not he's up for your less-than-competent bullshit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I called you out as a closet gay and you've been seething ever since. I've already won, not to mention that I've beaten you genetically as well by reproducing.

              • 10 months ago
                saucy

                Yeah, you won this week's biggest dickhead award, for sure bro.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >NTA, but what's wrong with his curses?
            Referring to posts as reddit gets thrown around a lot but this sentence is literally quintessential reddit

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not him, but redditors wouldn't call each other homosexuals though.

              Currently, can't cite any direct sources, so, my ass [...]

              Ok, It sort of makes sense so I chose to believe you.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >where did all these FFVIII appreciators come from?
      It was always one of the most popular and most loved FF games even back in the day. Everyone was raving about it, it was constantly reappearing in gaming mags and discussions. Ganker was mostly parroting one e-celeb who didn't like it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ganker was mostly parroting one e-celeb who didn't like it.
        Maybe true to Ganker but I've particularly noticed that kids who still rave about FF 9 as the best game ever made have particular distaste towards 8. I dunno why, but anyone who is currently in their, let's say 28-32 years would unanimously tell you 9 is the best FF and 8 is the black sheep of entire series outside of Ganker. At least every 2 out of 3 people I know would say something similar to that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a bot

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day it was a shit game

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >where did all these FFVIII appreciators come from?
      Same shithole the DMC2 fanboys are from. Le Reddit.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >disc 3 and 4
    literally kill me

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy ended at 7.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy started at 16.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy will continue with new kino entries and the board can only seethe.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFVIII is pure ludo THOUGH.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    BASED

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the only good game in this sequence blacked out?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day furhomosexual you will never be an animal

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        He should have blacked out 10. 7-8-9 (along with Chrono Cross) are the apotheosis of jrpg gameplay and story. 10 was the beginning of the end for the entire genre.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          FFX paved the way for XIII but they exacerbated every problem X had in that game.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This, honestly playing FF XIII made me appreciate FF X, which I had similar complaints to back at the time (too linear, Sphere Grid sucks, these characters suck, Blitzball sucks). But I replayed it recently with Japanese dub and Expert Sphere Grid, and that experience was much better than original PS2 release. Linearity still bothered me a bit, but at least visually FF X is really cool to look at, you aren't just walking hallways of various degree of greyness, you are walking various hallways of various colors.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's funny that they tease you with better progression systems in both sequels for those games. Both of which were shorter games on a lower budget.

              I still think the jobs system from X-2 is one of the best in the whole series.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Linearity didn't suck as much in X because that game still has towns and npcs for you to speak with (really, that's some standard jrpg linearity). In XIII each empty hallway led you from cinematic onto another cinematic.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Sphere Grid sucks
              But why? The only thing I don't like about FFX is that everyone will become everything except their overdrives at the end but for a playthrough the expert sphere grid is one of the best systems.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                FF X's original Western release on PS2 had only standard Sphere Grid, meaning characters could go only on set path for majority of the game, which essentially resulted in the same character progression as Final Fantasy 1, except instead of being fully automated you have to unlock predetermined stats manually for each and every one. With Expert Sphere Grid you can take characters on wildly different paths that can make it a bit more interesting until you max them out, but you really mostly use it for Black Mage Yuna.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >same character progression as Final Fantasy 1
                >except instead of being fully automated you have to unlock predetermined stats manually for each and every one
                Also, I just realized what I typed out and realized how it could be confusing, I didn't mean to imply that FF 1 has predetermined stats, because it doesn't, what I meant is that sphere grid in its linear form is barely any different from gaining a level in FF 1, except you have to manually gain stats each time AND they are also predetermined, so you follow exactly same path you replay the game each time. In that sense, it's even less engaging than FF 1 leveling up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i used it to make kimari not completely useless

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can do a lot of cool shit with him in Expert Sphere Grid, in Standard Sphere Grid you just make him second Rikku.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >FF X's original Western release on PS2 had only standard Sphere Grid
                Not true, PAL had expert sphere grid too. Only NTSC was raped, dark aeons were removed and it was made easier for the US audience was was common practice back then.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                wait? the us didnt have dark aeons? lmao

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't have dark aeons nor penance. Quick hit was also way more powerful among other balance changes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am limited to what I know, and what I know is what I experienced.

                wait? the us didnt have dark aeons? lmao

                yes

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why is the only good game in this sequence blacked out?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This feels on the same level as some edgy kid scratching out the picture of his bully in his high school yearbook. Why does 9 live rent free in 8gays heads?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      IX is better than 95% of JRPGs but it's the worst of that bunch and I'm sincerely tired of pretending it's not. God damn Square was at their peak during that stretch. Those 4 are some of my all time favorite games.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        IX has the best story out of all of them and the best characters. AP system is the best too, as it has the customizability of materia without having you risk making all of your characters basically the same mechanically. If the gameplay was less shitty it'd be perfect.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't like only one aspect of AP system which is the only thing I don't like about Materia either, which is why I think FF8 is overlooked in my opinion in that regard especially. With both AP system and Materia the grinding is unavoidable, it's something that must be done to customize the characters however you like. AP system is probably the system I would call the best in the series, but that aspect, I don't understand how people just overlook it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >IX is worse than X
        In what world? Why exactly? Give legitimate reasons other than wanting to frick Yuna or something equally moronic.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit taste incarnate, you need to have a nice day.

      Why is the only good game in this sequence blacked out?

      BASED

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, what's OP saying?

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love the game, but really? Did they never expect the game to run higher than 240p?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not playing on a CRT
      skill issue

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Where do I plug in the CRT?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          hdmi to scart adapter

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          worst case scenario get a good shader setup going

          no screenshot because the thing only works in motion, might look bad outside 1080p sorry new at this
          unfortunately i still can't figure out how to record this without the hicc-ups towards the beginning but the playing experience is consistently smooth

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was kidding. I don't eat out of dumpsters, and I don't use CRTs.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >animeMC(s).png

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Did they never expect the game to run higher than 240p?
      No. It was a PS1 game, so why would they?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They had already seen PCs doing 800x600 3d accelerated at that point.

        >Did they never expect the game to run higher than 240p?
        I think the majority of the Final Fantasy games don't have a source code in existence, there's no higher rez version of the prerendered backgrounds, similar to what happened with Chrono Cross and the music in SMT3.

        A lot of it seems to be horseshit. Tying cutscene speed and combat speed to framerate, for example. FF8 Remastered runs 15fps in battle because the ATB is clocked along with the framerate. Who would have thought japs would be the worst developers in the world?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A lot of it seems to be horseshit. Tying cutscene speed and combat speed to framerate, for example.
          It's easy to say in retrospect that what they were doing was totally moronic, but you have to remember that the tech you have in your hands today wasn't even fathomed back then. A lot of the techniques they were using in the PSX/2 era were allowing them to stretch the hardware past what even Sony thought was possible, they never meant for the games to have to run in an environment outside of the PSX hardware much less stretched on a 1080p monitor.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Tying cutscene speed and combat speed to framerate, for example. FF8 Remastered runs 15fps in battle because the ATB is clocked along with the framerate. Who would have thought japs would be the worst developers in the world?
            To be fair, a lot and I mean A LOT of japs will often tie framerate a certain point because it was never meant to be ran at a higher degree. That's not even a Square problem its just that they never considered people would actually want to play at something over 15-20 FPS over the years

            I love FF8, but given the way PCs were already going with people pulling 800x600@60fps, it's inexcusable.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I mean if you feel that way whatever, but all it does is make it clear that you have a gross misunderstanding of what it means/meant to develop a game for console hardware.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They continued to do it years later, though. That's why FFX and X-2 are locked to 30fps. If you change the framerate, the cutscenes desync (which they didn't even fix for PAL versions, which had to run 5fps slower). It's bad decisions, plain and simple, and FFX has no excuse since they'd already done The Bouncer and there had already been plenty of other demonstrations of how to develop PS2 games.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                they made games that looked great and ran great on their original hardware they didn't fricking care that some PC autist would want to run it in 60FPS 10 years in the future. and nobody could have predicted that the game industry would be so bad that they would need to rerelease 10 year old games on new consoles because they can't make anything better. not that normal people care that a turned based rpg is running are lower FPS anyway

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tying cutscene speed and combat speed to framerate, for example. FF8 Remastered runs 15fps in battle because the ATB is clocked along with the framerate. Who would have thought japs would be the worst developers in the world?
          To be fair, a lot and I mean A LOT of japs will often tie framerate a certain point because it was never meant to be ran at a higher degree. That's not even a Square problem its just that they never considered people would actually want to play at something over 15-20 FPS over the years

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was already a FF7 PC port underway when FF8 was in early stages.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's Square before Square Enix, they probably think nobody will play it because of new cooler games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Did they never expect the game to run higher than 240p?
      I think the majority of the Final Fantasy games don't have a source code in existence, there's no higher rez version of the prerendered backgrounds, similar to what happened with Chrono Cross and the music in SMT3.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >music of SMT3
        That's complete bullshit. Sega is just lazy. Higher quality Nocturne music does very well exist.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >That's complete bullshit. Sega is just lazy. Higher quality Nocturne music does very well exist.
          Black person Meguro himself said that the HD masters of the mixed tracks are gone and nobody has them. They were never on released on CD.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Playing the demaster
      You asked for it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      speaking of which, the BG upscaled mod is still stuck on patreon hell with no update in a year

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yup, I've been waiting for that. McIndus definitely milking the patreon piggies at this point.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      A maximum of six models (or actors) can be loaded at once in any scene, because of VRAM constraints which were not changed when porting to superior platforms nor any scripting touched to preserve compatibility/coherence and avoid unpredictable behavior. As far as Square was concerned, the game is supposed to be played on PS1 hardware and the presentation is built around it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      they lost the source code during the Enix merger when they threw away the filing cabinets where they printed it out and stored it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you add up all the sales money FF8 ever made, it's still probably made about 80% of its earnings within 6 months. The future just doesn't matter from the perspective of getting shit out the door so you can afford to make the next one.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would LOVE if the team that made FF9's "Moguri Mod" did FF7 and FF8.

      Wow.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        theres Angelwing: Ultima mod and it looks pretty good, but from what I gathered its not releasing any time soon, also you can get it from dev's patreon but thats too gay
        https://imgsli.com/NDIwNzA
        https://imgsli.com/NDE4NjM
        https://imgsli.com/NDE5NTc
        https://imgsli.com/NDE5NTk

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >FF7 and FF9 have tons of community mods freely and openly available
          >Only good FF8 mod is locked behind a paywall
          >The modder promised a public release years ago but never did, just milking that patreon money

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Moguri mod had the benefit of artbooks and some source art assets they could draw from to feed the AI upscaler.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese coding

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably took ages to render those backgrounds at the time. No sense quadrupling your render times for higher res versions. If they gave any thought to remastering they probably assumed that it would be easier in the future to rerender them on faster computers.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Family if you are gonna play the PC demake at least mod that shit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Legitimately the hardest moment in the game

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              the hardest is still finding the stupid white boat

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, getting the Laguna card off of Ellone with space rules and without losing any of your cards is much, much harder than wandering around the map

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nomuracringe slop
    >nojimacringe script
    >no sakagucci, ito kino
    yeah, in the trash

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You all give Nomura way more credit than what he actually did as a whole with FF

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        where in that post did I ever give him credit for something he didn't do? his edgelord anime designs and obsession with OH ITS FANTASY BUT THEY ALSO WEAR NIKES AND BRANDED israeliteELRY is moronic and slop and it ruined Final Fantasy for 25 years. frick Toriyama too, while we are at it.
        I've been awake for way too long

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >fantasy means medieval
          >star wars is scifi

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never said either of those things, I said his designs were moronic and the aesthetics of the games he worked on are straight downgrades to everything else in the series
            the "this is a fantasy based on reality" shit is shit, that's just how it is

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          His weird brand shit is a recent development since he isn't tard wrangled anymore. You honestly think his work with VII, VIII and X is comparable to what he does now?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You honestly think his work with VII, VIII and X is comparable to what he does now?
            Yes. I could dress like Cloud any day of the week, all of the characters in VIII just dress like "normal" people. It's basic avant garde visual kei fashion shit that was rife in Japan in the 90s.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no sakaguchi
      Good
      >no Ito
      Factually wrong, he designed the GF system and combat

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ito always did his best work on the titles he also served as director on
        VI, IX, and XII are all fantastic and blow the rest of his stuff out of the water, save maybe V's job system.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >, and XII are all fantastic and blow the rest of his stuff out of the water
          lol.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            you've never played it
            next you'll say, le offline MMO, le autobattler

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              le offline MMO, le autobattler

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He knows who worked on what
      Lmao imagine giving a shit
      Just play the game nerd

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >disc 1: kino
    >disc 2: slop
    >disc 3: good
    >disc 4: kino

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Gardens bowl at the end of Disc 2 will forever be kino, frick you.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But the prison at the beginning of Disc 2 is not good.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We need to ascend dozens of these identical metal rings
          >Actually we needed to descend all the way to the bottom
          >Wait we're underground lol, time to head to the top
          >Can't just use the lift, some convulated bullshit prevents us
          >Oh wait actually we can, we'll all head to the lift and one of you go operate it
          Even Rinoa kicking Irvine down the stairs couldn't salvage it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We need to ascend dozens of these identical metal rings
          >Actually we needed to descend all the way to the bottom
          >Wait we're underground lol, time to head to the top
          >Can't just use the lift, some convulated bullshit prevents us
          >Oh wait actually we can, we'll all head to the lift and one of you go operate it
          Even Rinoa kicking Irvine down the stairs couldn't salvage it

          honestly not sure if I blocked it out but I don't remember the prison taking long at all

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It only takes a long time if you do RNG manipulation 3 times to get early Rosetta Stones

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I guess, not really worth it since the game wasn't tough. probably if you are trying to 100% complete it

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The original pleb filter.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like how Ganker is slowly realizing I'm 100% right about this list.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sonic games

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If anything, the perfect Sonic trilogy should be the first three games (& Knuckles).

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The perfect sonic trilogy for me is actually Sonic 2, Sonic 3, and Sonic and Knuckles.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    8 Black folk are acting up again it seems

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF9 child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. FF9 cartoon world with rainbow unlike FF8 with dark corridorr and raelistic gunblade.. FF9 like playhouse. FF9 playor run from FF8 fear of dark world and realism

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        why are you responding to your own comments?
        This threads are really sad...

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you so jealous

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not based

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >single handedly stages a successful prison break.
    >Is the only one of the orphans who actually gets adopted.
    >Only one known to actively search for food. Rest of the party confirmed for androids.
    >Punches shit.
    >Only one who is knowledgeable about the affairs of the rest of the world. Political situation in Galbadia? Check. History of the Deep Sea Research Facility? Gotchu senpai.
    >Has a shrine to his grandfather. He knows respect.
    >As a matter of fact, his grandfather was probabbly doomguy. Ever noticed his shotgun on Zell's room?
    >Rides hoverboards.
    >Alpha as frick, is the only one who actually has girls swooning over him.
    >Master israeliteeller. Can make a copy of a ring with just some materials.
    >Is the source of Squall's tactical genius. Denying the enemy of resources is a valid strategy, even if said resources are hot dogs.
    >Is a master martial artist who can learn and create deadly new techniques just from reading magazines.
    >Blows so precise he can even swat flies by punching.
    >Can run around the world in mere seconds just to punch the shit out of someone.
    >Has the strongest Limit Break in the entire game. Lionheart? Get that weak shit outta here.
    >A single punch of him is strong enough for people to think there was an earthquake.
    >The greatest wingman, helps Squall on the way to getting some puss puss, even strong arming him at least once into progress.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blows so precise he can even swat flies by punching.
      gets me every time

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Strongest limit break
      *Laughs in Trabianese*

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Squall, Zell and Irvine. Best party.

      NO GIRLS ALLOWED

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Squall, Zell and Rinoa if you want the most character development dialogue and cutscenes. They are the 3 that do the most damage with their limit breaks too outside of lucky Selphie's The End and Rinoa is generally the most useful party member throughout the game. Quistis is very useful too, but she falls off against bosses.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          back in the day i wanted a rinoa gf

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Irvine is a homosexual jobber and choke artist. And his outfit is gay as frick.

        Squall/Rinoa/Zell or your gay. You can occasionally run Quistis for her pre-battle whip crack sound effect which is just pure kino.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      quistis got adopted too iirc
      she left because things doesn't work well with her new family

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He is Back to the Future reference. Rides a hoverboard, has red jacket, is involved with time travel, works with a professor, is bullied and called a chicken wuss, and has to be at specific place at specific time.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      as frick, is the only one who actually has girls swooning over him.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do people think impregnation is hot? I feel like getting a girl pregnant is my worst nightmare. I have never had sex without a condom, and I dont think I trust women enough to ever do so unless I was married

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their breasts and ass get bigger and even sexy girls get more self-conscious (and therefore more needy) about their gained weight.
          Also a territorial kind of thing if you got them pregnant. Hell, the NTR angle if you didn't get them pregnant and you're fricking the fruits of some other guy's labor and then frick off when they're about to pop is pretty hot too. And lastly sex without a condom with less fear of any (more) consequences even if you weren't the one to knock them up.

          I mean frick anon are you gay, what's not to like?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          To this day the greatest mental and physical pleasure I had was cumming in a girl without condom. You have no idea how much better sex without a condom is, especially with someone you love and who loves you back, you can see it in her eyes as you are looking at each other when you are about to cum. I had better faps than sex with condom.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the only time i had fun using condom was fricking a married milf role playing with her that it's like our first time again cheating behind her husband, the other times we raw dog bust inside her since the first day, it was the opposite of what normal people experience.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Im sorry you’re not married anon

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's compression of time

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      unironically the most kino final fantasy song, even my FF8 hating friends admit it.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros should I buy the 7 and 8 dual pack on switch for 30 dollars or just play them on my vita. I don't really care about the money just wanna know which would be the best experience

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say go for emulation on Vita, because all re-releases and remasters are heavily based on rather poorly ported PC ports from late 90s, they improved them significantly since their releases, but you just can't beat the originals, their faults even out if not make them less preferable choices outright.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    wtf I love Rinoa now

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i actually always assumed Rinoa is flat, but she's usually packing reasonable amount in all artwork.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        She's not huge but she also doesn't wear a bra

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left, Final Fantasy VII
    Middle, Final Fantasy IX
    Right, Final Fantasy VIII
    They can all be friends, why can't you?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      its too late for friendship after the years of undeserved hate FF8 got

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No no. It deserved ALL its hate.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You deserve all the hate

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >undeserved
        FF8 is shit and always has been.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Junction is lame and tedious, enemy scaling is dogshit. Easily the worst of the PS1 era games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are lame and your taste is dogshit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Junction is lame and tedious
      Oh, you're an illiterate and lazy child.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"May be I am a..." *jakface* *opens mouth very wide in amazement*
    >"I am a..." *Starts shitting and cumming*
    >"MAY BE I AM A..." *doesn't cast berserk to autocombat this time around*
    >"LIOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!"
    Absolutely Kino. I hope SE survives long enough for ffviii remake.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    8 was the best til x came along and its all been downhill since that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funnily enough, X is whole lotta cut content from VIII, particularly best part of the game Auron who is straight up VIII's character shoved into X.

      Even Tidus and Yuna couldn't have happened if it wasn't for VIII.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        [citation needed]

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah frick, I really wish I could give direct links to what I am referring to, so it's fair for you to assume I am talking out of my ass. I just remember years ago I overdosed on behind the scenes stuff of Final Fantasy, and I vividly remember that the pattern of Laguna and group affecting Squall and group in similar way Jecht and co affect Tidus and co, it basically wasn't just a coincidence. And particularly Irvine was meant to be much older and actually hang around with both Laguna and Squall, but then they decided to make all of Squall's group roughly same age and I believe it was Ward who usurped Irvine's role as the third member, and rewrite was really swift which is why Ward became mute, the dialogue for him in his section of the games just wasn't written because it was assumed Irvine would be there. And eventually, during development of FF X Auron essentially usurped idea for Irvine to be carry over party member from past group to current group. There are a lot of points of similarities like that that were cut due to rushed production of FF8. I think it very well might have been highlighted in Ultimania.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            But what about the canned FFVIII gaiden? Surely that would've had just as much or more influence on VIII and X's relationship?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wasn't that just an April's Fools joke? Also, completely coincidental, but it's kind of funny how, in relationship between VIII and X, X did end up with X-2 but not as a joke.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            FFX was originally not meant to be a FF game. It was called Project 17 but when Squaresoft realized they don't have anything for the next big thing, they repurposed it and promoted it to be the main focus as the next FF.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              which was a good thing

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              First time of heard of this, do you know more?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was called Project 17 because people would only live to their 17 years due to deadly disease. Yuna was a Yevon priest or nurse travelling the world treating people, and Tidus was an unsent. There is not much known because it was scraped off and lost to history.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh frick, is it when Tidus was meant to be plumber or was it when they already decided that 17 will be FF X?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea. Here is very early build of FFX with free 3D camera and online functionality:

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of that I am aware of, honestly wished they kept Tidus's floating hair at least for underwater section, and black instead of Meg Ryan shit he ended up with, but that demo is clearly when they settled on it being FF X fully, I want to find more info on Seven Teen project.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea. Here is very early build of FFX with free 3D camera and online functionality:

                Found more info on it, this part sounds eerily familiar
                >The story revolved around a recent unknown disease that killed people on their seventeenth birthday. Yuna would have had the role of a doctor/nurse that went around giving the disease's cure to its inspected victims. It is eventually revealed that the 'cure' was in fact the source of the disease, and that it was established by the company that Yuna was working for to rule the world, by claiming that they were the only ones that could provide the cure in the first place.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It is eventually revealed that the 'cure' was in fact the source of the disease
                Holy shit, what the frick Squaresoft.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No wonder they weren't "allowed" to make it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Source?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Currently, can't cite any direct sources, so, my ass

          Ah frick, I really wish I could give direct links to what I am referring to, so it's fair for you to assume I am talking out of my ass. I just remember years ago I overdosed on behind the scenes stuff of Final Fantasy, and I vividly remember that the pattern of Laguna and group affecting Squall and group in similar way Jecht and co affect Tidus and co, it basically wasn't just a coincidence. And particularly Irvine was meant to be much older and actually hang around with both Laguna and Squall, but then they decided to make all of Squall's group roughly same age and I believe it was Ward who usurped Irvine's role as the third member, and rewrite was really swift which is why Ward became mute, the dialogue for him in his section of the games just wasn't written because it was assumed Irvine would be there. And eventually, during development of FF X Auron essentially usurped idea for Irvine to be carry over party member from past group to current group. There are a lot of points of similarities like that that were cut due to rushed production of FF8. I think it very well might have been highlighted in Ultimania.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the first 2 disks were so good but I lost interest after that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      that feel when you played ff8 as a teenager the first time and the laguna part starts

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I missed out when I was a teenager and now I think every character is unrelatable and tedious.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >character does a 180 from one disk to another

    geniunly thought i put in the wrong disk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      does a 180 from one disk to another
      >geniunly thought i put in the wrong disk

      same here.
      Squall went from "whatever" to "I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT RINOA" going from Disk 2 to Disk 3

      >It is eventually revealed that the 'cure' was in fact the source of the disease
      Holy shit, what the frick Squaresoft.

      this but unironically

      No wonder they weren't "allowed" to make it

      [...]

      frick off with the "vaccine was fake" fake news

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >character does a 180 from one disk to another

        geniunly thought i put in the wrong disk

        literally due to bad translation, their relationship is more developed in the original jp script

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >their relationship is more developed in the original jp script

          "mistranslated" is always a big level of cope. Same people do the same shit to defend Metroid Other M by going "the Japanese script is better"

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            They actually converse and warm to one another. This is cut in the english. Only one coping is you, I'm afraid, because you're monolingual and lack the intellect to ever learn another language.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yevonite hands wrote this post.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. swirly-eyed, machina fricking, sand blasted grease monkey

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Squall went from "whatever" to "I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT RINOA" going from Disk 2 to Disk 3
        teenagers life to be honest, the guy was 17

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolute hype. Orchestral versions also accepted.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    love story of the millennium

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF7, 8, 9 and 10 were all released in a timeframe of just 5 years
    >15 took 7 years to release
    >16 also took 7 years to release
    where did everything go so wrong?
    how do we go back?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      time will reset in 2025

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      PCs becoming more powerful means devs think they have to waste millions of hours on assets like modeling the entire country side manually, and voicing every single line written in the game in 12 languages, and then making them try to make it run at 10 fps in 4k

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sure is fun drawing constantly every enemy! I am having such a great time! Junctioning is so much funnn!!!! Sure you dont HAVE to power up your characters, and sure, maybe leveling up actually just makes you weaker, but holy frick I love grinding, and I love DRAWING

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this but unironically

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this but unironically

      oh frick im DRAWING

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this but unironically

      [...]
      oh frick im DRAWING

      Just buy items and refine them into magic. morons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kill enemies. Renzokuken enemies. Booya an enemy into the concrete. Card an enemy into items. Mug filthy monsters. Bad Breath in enemy food. Launch enemies into the moon. Stir fry enemies in Shockwave Pulsar. You don't have to draw for your spells once, only for GFs from specific bosses.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      So buy items to refine.
      >I DON'T HAVE MONEY
      So take SeeD tests to get more income.
      >I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

      Like nearly every video game ever made, at least 50% of the people who've played it stop in less than 1 hour and another 30% stop long before finishing it on even the shortest, most-beginner level.
      People complaining about video games are attention-seeking children.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    to be fair FF8 is great in general right up until Esthar

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's shit, it's garbage. Frick off.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DISK 3 - KINO
    This is a blatant lie and it doesn't matter which of the PS1 FFs you're referring to.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Magic system is shit
    Drawing and re assigning is homo

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    no game will look as beautiful as ix ever again
    it's peak video games

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF9 had the best background art
      BoF4 had the best character sprites
      Nothing has ever matched those two

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guarantee your pic is what your actual face looks like you fricking poofter and no, the world they created lacks the inspiration of FFVIII and even VII.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >absolutely dreadful story and writing, by far the worst out of 3 PS1 era final fantasies, certain moments are like a pure, concentrated moronation like Quistis abandoning her post to apologise to Rinoa WHILE THEY ARE IN A MIDDLE OF ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT
    >the worst main character out of 3
    >the second worst "love"story after FF15 with Squall literally doing 180 and starting to like Rinoa because writers willed it
    >a gigantic heap of badly thought out design decisions breaking any semblance of difficulty in half, can literally just spam limits from start to finish
    FF8 should've been entirely about Laguna
    It's a dogshit game and one of the worst entries, only one tier above the garbage like X-2 or 15.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF8 should've been entirely about Laguna
      low IQ, you got filtered

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love VIII, it's my favorite FF and I wanted more Laguna. A side story game where you play as Laguna conquering Esthar defeating Adel and traveling to the moon would be based af

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another Laguna cum guzzler.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        when is more entertaining and well written compared to Squall, can't you blame him?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Appreciating a character at the expense and/or in comparison to other characters isn't appreciating the character at all, it's just shitting on everything else. So yes, I can and will blame him for that.

          No need to samegay that desperately
          There's a reason Laguna is the only decently liked character out of that entire shit pile

          That's just flat out not true, it's only an opinion shared by basic b***h youtubers, you were just fed it by them. Laguna is just a good character in a good game.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >basic b***h youtubers
            I don't watch youtubers you delusional shit eating zoomeroid. Laguna was always considered the only decent character in FF8, it's a fact for over two decades at this point, he actually had realistic growth and even a believable romantic development despite having like 1/20 of Squall's screen time.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ironic you think you have the gall to call anyone a zoomer, because Final Fantasy 8 hate like that wasn't even a thing until Youtube specifically, everyone loved the game and Laguna was among many characters that was liked. Educate yourself.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Final Fantasy 8 hate like that wasn't even a thing until Youtube specifically
                FF8 "hate" (actually just a justified criticism for objectively half-baked and poorly thought out project) was a thing on local jrpg forums in early to mid-00s already. I don't need to educate myself with your zoomershit revisionist history, i don't give a single frick about any youtube personality and i have no desire to learn about any of them. Now go back.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >FF8 "hate" (actually just a justified criticism for objectively half-baked and poorly thought out project) was a thing on local jrpg forums in early to mid-00s already.
                That's my fricking point you dumb fricking zoomer, holy frick. It particularly culminated in mid 2000s where it got the established perception as black sheep of the series WHEN YOUTUBE GOT BIG.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >WHEN YOUTUBE GOT BIG.
                >early 00s
                I said, go back. Don't embarrass yourself any further. Your inane rant about youtubers has nothing to do with a common opinion of actual JRPG players of that period.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It particularly culminated in mid 2000s where it got the established perception as black sheep of the series WHEN YOUTUBE GOT BIG.
                You can't even read.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                > only an opinion shared by basic b***h youtubers
                > Final Fantasy 8 hate like that wasn't even a thing until Youtube specifically
                >anon talks about an era before youtube even became a thing, let alone got big enough to influence anything
                Are all FF8 fans like this?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spoony's FF8 review was 2007, aka mid 2000s.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >2007, aka mid 2000s.
                Yep, FF8 chads are confirmed to have brain damage.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Transitionary years are always fricking tricky, but most would agree that 2007 feels more like mid 2000s as opposed to cesspool that is 2008-2010, when you were born.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but most would agree that 2007 feels more like mid 2000s
                That's a cute opinion. Did a youtuber give it to you?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No need to samegay that desperately
        There's a reason Laguna is the only decently liked character out of that entire shit pile

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF8 should've been entirely about Laguna
      Anyone who thinks this and posts tranime on Ganker is 12 at max and should be banned

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >absolutely dreadful story and writing, by far the worst out of 3 PS1 era final fantasies
      >the worst main character out of 3
      but enough about FF9

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >FF9
        >a war story with two countries being genocided entirely that spirals into an alien plot aiming to overtake a planet, all focused around the theme of fear of death
        >FF8
        >big bad sorceress having a woman moment
        Yeah sure, enough about FF9. Since it lives in your head rent free, i mean.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literally NEVER have seen a discussion about FF9's story on this board. EVER. Nobody talks about it. Because nobody gives a frick about it. Nobody even remembers events that happened in it. Nobody gives a shit about the terrible villain. Nobody gives a frick about the incredibly irrelevant cast of characters.

          For all the dicksucking you rejects do, you sure don't talk about this "amazing" game. You just pretend to like it to be contrary. When the game came out, people didn't like it largely due to the shitty kiddy art style and animal people. But you weren't there.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally NEVER have seen a discussion about FF9's story on this board
            This, but with FF8.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              the only "discussion" with 8's story is latching onto an officially debunked theory

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >officially debunked theory
                Stopped reading right there. Caring about anything SE says after 2001 makes you a moron.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                or listening
                >durr this fan theory is incorrect
                >let us add even more blatantly bullshit evidence that makes it seem like theory was real
                >but remember the theory is not correct.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that Dissidia Ultimecia moment

                Not based

                Frick you SE, she's Rinoa.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                would at least make the story more interesting than what it was

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                My "headcanon" is Ultimecia inherits Rinoa's powers, so you could say some mannerisms/memories maybe came with it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree with a lot of points in this post
            >When the game came out, people didn't like it largely due to the shitty kiddy art style and animal people. But you weren't there.
            But this is insanely true, people have all but forgotten that, I was actually kind of hiding that I was playing Final Fantasy 9 at the time, it wasn't until PS2 popularized JRPGs with edgier titles like Persona 3 where I started feeling like I could enjoy talking about JRPGs more openly.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I talked to other guys about FF7 and 8 at school regularly. Nobody gave a frick about 9. People saw that stupid coke commercial and it put them off.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I had that experience with FF 7, but then I was transferred to other school and in that school my classmates weren't particularly gaming type, and if they were it was sports games, sadly. Still, my friends at the time from previous school were super positive about FF8.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody even remembers events that happened in it. Nobody gives a shit about the terrible villain. Nobody gives a frick about the incredibly irrelevant cast of characters.
            You're literally describing 8. A lot of people remember Vivi at the very least. 8 has nothing.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally NEVER have seen a discussion about FF9's story on this board
            this but every ff ever

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >When the game came out, people didn't like it largely due to the shitty kiddy art style and animal people
            People are allowed to dislike an art style. FF8, however, is shit in every single regard and was thoroughly bashed for all its aspects all the way since it came out. Go back to your schizoid rants about youtubers because apparently EVERYONE is to blame but not the actual game.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >FF8, however, is shit in every single regard and was thoroughly bashed for all its aspects all the way since it came out.
              Complete history revision or simple ignorance.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >thoroughly bashed for all its aspects all the way since it came out.
              Not true at all. But like I said, you weren't there.
              > schizoid rants about youtubers
              I found spoony's video funny.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I found spoony's video funny.
                Spoony's video was funny, the problem is that a lot of people, particularly children (particularly in this thread) are now confusing it for real opinions.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >, the problem is that a lot of people, particularly children (particularly in this thread) are now confusing it for real opinions.
                and the fanbase using the videos to deflect legitimate criticisms

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >big bad sorceress having a woman moment
          Meanwhile the biggest turning point for the villains is when Garnet has a "woman moment" by poisoning her friends, running back to her mother after asking to be kidnapped away from her and then essentially handing weapons of mass destruction to her. Ultimecia wanting to destroy SeeD because they're fated to kill her sounds infinitely more reasonable than what Garnet did, or Brahne supposedly being a loving and kind person before Kuja somehow convinced her she should be nuking the other kingdoms for power.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Meanwhile the biggest turning point for the villains is when Garnet has a "woman moment" by poisoning her friends
            None of it even registers on a global scale. Brahne's warmongering was just a tiny part of a global soul replacement plan.
            The entirety of 8 is a woman moment

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >None of it even registers on a global scale
              two kingdoms get obliterated because Brahne gets her hands on Garnet's eidolons
              >Brahne's warmongering was just a tiny part of a global soul replacement plan
              You're missing the point. We're talking about "woman moments" and Brahne supposedly being a loving and kind person but then suddenly desiring the power to nuke other kingdoms is exponentially more absurd than someone fearing their death and trying to argue otherwise just shows the cognitive dissonance going on in your head.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he told the truth

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assumed quistis left her post to hear and add to the plan involving that shitty bangle before mission started, I’m writing that off to awful translation.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The writing is bad because a 19 year old had a bout of moronation
      No
      >Worst MC
      Cloud exists
      >love story whining
      Oh look another moron who sent Rinoa to the missile base and lacks the ability to notice anything.
      >muh difficulty
      Final Fantasy is not a hard series.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >19 year old had a bout of moronation
        19 years old MILITARY INSTRUCTOR on a CRUCIAL MISSION
        >Cloud exists
        Yes, and he's a character with actual depth and backstory unlike this cardboard cutout.
        >Oh look another moron who sent Rinoa to the missile base and lacks the ability to notice anything.
        Rinoa has zero development with Squall no matter where she is.
        >Final Fantasy is not a hard series.
        Correct. And yet, even among them 8 is the most broken.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >19 years old MILITARY INSTRUCTOR on a CRUCIAL MISSION
          Still a 19 year old
          Still prone to bouts of idiocy.
          >Yes, and he's a character with actual depth and backstory
          But enough about 7R Cloud, we're talking about OG 7 Cloud here.
          >Rinoa has zero development with Squall no matter where she is.
          I point again to the second half of my comment.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Still a 19 year old
            No. A military instructor. Idiocy would be beaten out of her years ago.
            >But enough about 7R Cloud, we're talking about OG 7 Cloud here.
            This is such a moronic bait i question your sanity
            Go and check in a local mental asylum or something
            >I point again to the second half of my comment.
            A fanfiction about their relationships you have in your mind is not what happens in the game, shit eater.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Idiocy would be beaten out of her years ago.
              Seifer exists. Acting like being in a military means you can't be an idiot is also a moronic take.
              Good lord just leave this thread, you clearly hate this game and you're wasting your own time crying about it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Seifer exists.
                The entire game exists. It's all fricking moronic. A military organization would NEVER survive being this moronic. It's all Pluto Knights levels of moronation except Alexandria also had Beatrix.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        A better love story than Squall and Rinoa

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Squall literally doing 180 and starting to like Rinoa because writers willed it

      How to tell a person is on the spectrum

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FF8 is a movie
    you said it op not me

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      except he didn't.

      They actually converse and warm to one another. This is cut in the english. Only one coping is you, I'm afraid, because you're monolingual and lack the intellect to ever learn another language.

      >They actually converse and warm to one another.
      when I played they never interacted outside of a few specific moments

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Squall and all the other party members except Rinoa were all part of the same orphanage but lost their memories
    What was the purpose of that? Ironically, that lessened their bonds for me.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What was NOT the purpose of it?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The purpose WAS the not, what of it?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What was the purpose of that?

      no idea since it's basically forgotten right after the reveal. Same with the Guardian Force amnesia shit

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >game is out, everybody loves it
    >years later some attention prostitute says it's bad, everybody hates it
    >years later those who haven't played it start to forget why they were supposed to hate it
    Nature is healing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      later some attention prostitute says it's bad, everybody hates it
      who was this?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some Youtube """content""" """creator""", but I don't know any.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just trust me bro
          FF8 fanbase has an adorable persecution complex

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >FF8 fanbase has an adorable persecution complex
            agreed, look at all the "IT'S ONLY HATED BY 9 FANS" shitposts

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I assume it's all one guy samegayging because otherwise it's just too sad to look at.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ProJared said it's bad, the guy around a mil subs I reckon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spoony

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate that guy because any criticism of FF8 basically gets met with this image

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            He got what he deserved in the end

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't
        >Ask
        >Me
        >Who it WAS

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everyone loves it
      It was complete fricking garbage in the 90s and its complete garbage in the 20s. No amount of blaming spoony is going to fix that

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice revisionism.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love FF8. I don't know why Ganker likes Quistis so much, thought she is probably the worst blue mage in the series.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quistis is as awful as the rest of FF8's characters and her moment of pure moronation near the end of disc 1 is inexcusable.
      She just has the best design.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >She just has the best design.
        She doesn't once you realize these aren't boots.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek. As for Quistis if you leave her at low hp she is incredibly useful for regular monsters. Bad Breath before you acquire Doomtrain and even after and Degenerator are very strong abilities.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >As for Quistis if you leave her at low hp
        that applies to everyone because of how limit breaks work in that game.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not really because you can't kill some of the monsters before they start pummeling you unless you have endgame junctions. But use Bad Breath or Degenerator and it's over.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no john don't have a nice day
      >ok
      >kills him anyway
      good show

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    selphie is best girl

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    Yep, the best run of games in FF history.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >present a criticism of 8
    >REEEEEEEEE IT'S JUST A YOUTUBER CONSPIRACY AGAINST A GOOD GAME

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    K I N O
    I
    N
    O

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The game was perfect until the dog fricker appeared. What a waste of a character slot.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's a white girl.

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't my PS1 on me anymore and I've been getting an itch to replay FF8 again. Should I get the regular version or the remastered version on Steam? Pros and cons of each?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No reason not to play Remastered, it fixed the music

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Emulate on Duckstation or your emulator of preference in 4k/60fps and enable geometry culling etc. for superior models. Optionally set Squall's level to 100 through gameshark from the beginning to have unique experience.

        Thanks bros.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Emulate on Duckstation or your emulator of preference in 4k/60fps and enable geometry culling etc. for superior models. Optionally set Squall's level to 100 through gameshark from the beginning to have unique experience.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Optionally set Squall's level to 100 through gameshark from the beginning
        More challenging because the basic mobs have a lot more health and cast abilities they don't have at low levels.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF 7 is for adults
    FF 8 is for edgy teens
    FF 9 id for kids

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF 9 id for kids
      >an entry with the largest amout of deaths, actual portrayals of war crimes, the heaviest themes out of 3 (constant reminders about death with the most likeable party members literally ticking away so fast he's dead before the epilogue takes place and the last boss being THE personification of death)
      >with a womanizer MC groping asses and trying to hit on several women
      Funny how the cartoony style has managed to trick so many people

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        FF9 child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. FF9 cartoon world with rainbow unlike FF8 with dark corridorr and raelistic gunblade.. FF9 like playhouse. FF9 playor run from FF8 fear of dark world and realism

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody was tricked. It's a kiddy game.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MUH DEATH
        people play this up as way too deep about IX which always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude, same, decimating (or outright genociding) Freya's race, it's not why I think FF IX, but dumbasses constantly bring it up. I do admit that Vivy's storyline about certain doom is very well explored.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Vivi's part of it is the only positive thing you can say about FFIXs story as a whole, but once again, people over do it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >N-Noooooooooooooo! T-The cartoony style is just a style! I-It's actually VERY mature and adult! AAAAH HELP ME C.S. LEWIS-SAMA!!!!

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've heard that the FF8 TL was really bad, is there no patch for it?

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Disc 3 - Kino
    You lost me there, pal.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    From my experience people who enjoy FF8 are generally decent people and people who trash it turn it into their entire personalities and usually are trannies. I have no stake on the matter, just saying things as they are, my favorite FF is VI with IX as close second.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      in my experience its the other way around, ff8 players are the trannies and i havent played this game for over 23 years but ff8 defenders have turned it into their whole personality and cant take basic criticism.
      Or any discussion about story and plot lines without them them going ape shit over canon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But shitposts like
        >Laguna is only good thing about game everything else sucks
        Is not a legitimate criticism, it's just fanboying over a character. Which is this entire thread.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          it is if its the only coherent plot line of the game. Laguna blows Squall out of the water not because people fanboy over the character but because his plot is simply a-b-c-d-e, instead of squalls d-e-b-c-a. Bear in mind i dont remember Laguna's story all that well but i remember the major plot points and together i can weave the story back together
          Not true for Squall where i remember them but like the game making sense of whats happening is stupidly annoying

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno about that, it's true that Laguna's storyline is good, but I genuinely resonated with Ellone because of how it's structured, I realized I was in the same boat when there was a childhood friend that I recognized, but we haven't seen each other for a long time and turns out he has all but forgotten about me, and quite frankly we became different people. So the game starts with Squall meeting Ellone, a girl he forgot he missed, who was his main goal to become stronger, and when he met her he couldn't even recognize her, that really hit me when I replayed it recently. Overall, storywise the only problem I have with the story is that they tried to shove this theme of forgetting where you come from into the GF memory loss, the way I interpreted it is that, like, imagine you decided to seriously start going to gym, you don't remember every session you make yet you become stronger, but it was just shoved with no particular elaboration which throws people in a loop which could've been done better.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >shove this theme of forgetting where you come from into the GF memory loss
              Therein lies a very key problem in the game, everyone forgets everyone and they conveniently dont bother to look into it.
              Its asinine, it takes suspension of disbelief so far i had to stop and wonder if the writers and characters werent infact moronic. It destroys characters and cheapens motivations.
              Think about rationally. Squall forgetting Ellone, thats a tragedy ill give you that.
              Squall forgetting his entire damn orphanage? Thats hack writing.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I actually have to strongly disagree with that, as a person with parents who moved a lot I went through several schools and even kinder gardens, I don't remember majority of them, I don't remember most things or people I met when I was younger than 8. And hell, if you pay closer attention, the one guy who remembered them together as kids, Irvine, he did try to bring it up, but it's fricking awkward to come up to a person and say "HEY, REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE 7!" when the person doesn't even remember you, Selphie took it as if he was hitting on her. It's very well foreshadowed and played out realistically, at least from my experience (Irvine could've done a better job at trying to re-introduce himself to Selphie, but there's no good way to break the ice on that front, talking from genuine experience).

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Remember when we were 7
                >shit its been only been what 10 years
                yeah but how old are you now and how old was squall and co, how many damn kids did that orphanage hold, and where did the majority of these kids go? To the same damn fricking place is where. So the moving around part doesnt hold water because most of them moved to the balamb garden and were constantly near each other the statistics alone should tell its pretty damn impossible to forget one another in such close proximity.
                So the writers had GF force, but how young were these damn kids when they started using?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's no minimum amount of time you remember someone, a person you personally were a year ago is not the same guy you are now, you are already unrecognizable.
                >To the same damn fricking place is where
                Actually not true, for example, Selphie was moved to Trabia, Irvine obviously wasn't around and Zell was adopted, so really it were Squall, Quistis and Seifer, which, admittedly, punches believability just a bit that they wouldn't remember, but they do talk about how they grew up with each other, even if Squall doesn't exactly remember his animosity with Seifer. It's probably why they left path of point A of them living in an orphanage to point B, them being soldiers in Guardians, very vague, you can easily imagine that as Cid was gathering more funding they got more kids and so on and so forth.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zell joined them when he was 12 or 13, only Selphie and Irvine has any "real" excuses.
                > why they left path of point A of them living in an orphanage to point B, them being soldiers in Guardians, very vague
                Yup

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Zell joined them when he was 12 or 13, only Selphie and Irvine has any "real" excuses.
                All of them except Irvine were using GFs.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't remember because [...]

                i know, ive said ive found GF induced amnesia asinine.
                If Cid wasnt the damn husband of Edea, if the kids didnt live in close proximity and saw each other everyday in their school classes.
                Then yeah ok memory problems sure why not.
                But all of them being hit by the moron stick? Thats a little too convenient for my tastes

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cid and Edea wasn't. Edea was controlled by Rinoa from the future and Cid was busy raising his children army.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cid was busy building the damn garden, which resulted in actual plot point I actually don't like (Norg). I can easily imagine how during that period Cid transformed in eyes of most kids from a foster parent to a headmaster quite easily, because that's the role he eventually had to fit into and that's the role they have come to associate him with NOW, in the present, regardless of the past.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But I don't think that's really a problem in the game in the same way it doesn't bother me in FF IX, because it was used to drive point that FF VIII are friends not because they were childhood friends, they were childhood friends who became friends as adults regardless of their past, which I think is beautiful, it embraces the theme of destiny (and I brought up IX because it tells similar story, but in directly opposite direction of escaping your fate, which is just as beautiful, but we're not talking about IX). VIII's story is very much story about fate inescapable, and such a small contrivance, well, I just don't know why it would ruin it for you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its a problem for me not for you. You enjoy it, whereas i see it as a huge flaw that makes me unable to enjoy the story, but even if i was ok with that part ff8 was still dragged down my bad game decisions like that slow ass floating garden padding everything out as it slowly floated its fricking ass across the screen.
                Lets just say whereas in ff7 i hated the beginning but enjoyed the game after midgar, ff8 was the opposite i enjoyed the beginning but the more i learned and explored the world the more i hated it.

                Cid and Edea wasn't. Edea was controlled by Rinoa from the future and Cid was busy raising his children army.

                Cid was busy building the damn garden, which resulted in actual plot point I actually don't like (Norg). I can easily imagine how during that period Cid transformed in eyes of most kids from a foster parent to a headmaster quite easily, because that's the role he eventually had to fit into and that's the role they have come to associate him with NOW, in the present, regardless of the past.

                >Edea: Hey Cid sweety, i just experienced a time traveling phenoma where the kid i raised came and saved me, his name is Squall and he said he was part of an organization called Seed.
                >Edea: I'm going to create an organization to combat evil, remember these kids in these orphanages will play a vital part take them with you as you get started with this organization
                >Cid: Okey Dokey im going to recruit children soldiers and build an army
                And he was a dumbass, who once again destroyed the suspension of disbelief.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Its a problem for me not for you.
                That's fair enough, however, I do draw the line in calling something bad between calling something I don't like and something bad. For example, I don't like the movie Looper, it's a well put together movie, I get what it's going for, and I don't like it, but I wouldn't call it bad, and a lot of people enjoy it. Everything being subjective is bullshit, there is always a room for objectivity, and objectively speaking I do think there are many better Final Fantasy games than Final Fantasy VIII, but also objectively speaking I can't say in good consciousness see a valid reason to say the game is bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I do draw the line in calling something bad between calling something I don't like and something bad.
                I said i dont like FF8 i didnt say it was bad. I did however say and maintain:
                That objectively that slow ass moving building is bad game design. Squeezing through forests to get to water still pisses me off

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I assumed you thought game is bad. Eh, I don't remember struggling with Balamb Garden to be honest with you, the mid-game ships in all FFs are trash until you get the late game ship.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do think its bad but i only give you reasons why.
                > mid-game ships in all FFs are trash until you get the late game ship.
                Those FF were in 8-16 bit sprites where you can clearly see what you can pass through and what you cant.
                Balamb Garden has a hitbox that makes you think you can pass through things you cant and things you can pass through seem likes it stupid to even try.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seems like a petty reason to think it's bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                well i also talked about story which i felt was nonsensical.
                With every flaw compounding against each other, it doesnt exactly leave a good impression.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But story makes perfect sense, and Ultimecia is one of the most interesting villains in gaming history. You almost never interact with her, you have to decipher her plans exclusively from her actions.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The story is told haphazardly
                >Ultimecia is one of the most interesting villains in gaming history
                Not even a little her goal itself is nonsensical to a rational man.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Her goal is to not die by creating a scenario where she lives as infinitely as she dies, her death is predetermined so she tries to escape that by compressing time.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You dont think that sounds like literal hell?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ultimecia as a Sorceresses already had to live through hell because of prejudice she created in the past that she would cause in the future, she just doesn't want to die. You telling me that shit ain't cash to wrap your head around?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >become the ONLY person in existence
                >whilst still connected to ranting and ravings of those you killed
                Yeah that sounds like it will drive me insane

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ranting and ravings of people who wanted her dead, like, look, put yourself in there shoes, from the moment you are born you learn of existence of a group that exists solely to kill you, entire world wants you dead for the crimes you haven't committed yet, how empathetic do you think such a person would be? If anything, it just makes me want SE to make a proper FF VIII because it's unclear whether main characters broke out of time loop which eventually results in rise of Ultimecia or the world is still cursed to give birth to such an existence.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Since she compressed time and space its literally everyone in existence and she'll have to be with them forever unable to escape.
                >because it's unclear whether main characters broke out of time loop which eventually results in rise of Ultimecia or the world is still cursed to give birth to such an existence.
                If i had to stomach everyone in existence hating me forever i would sabotage myself by making sure a group broke out of the time loop

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's either that, which is, you know, NORMAL for her, or certain death. I remember Final Fantasy XIII tried to do the storyline where the point is that if main characters do nothing they actually completely foil villains' plans, but I think FF VIII actually earns it substantially but making that Ultimecia's position, because her trying to escape death created the moment where her death was possible, with main characters from the past killing her, underlying theme of inescapable fate from the past.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Normal is her running away, abnormal is when she fights back, what she seeks is her own perfect world where shes alone so nothing can hunt her down
                What is spelled out is shes going to suffer forever if she manages to succeed and even when it wasnt spelled out it was pretty damn obvious the only person in existence is going suck

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What? No, have you seen the world in her time? She conquered it, did you miss that part? Ellone is the one running away, Ultimecia is vengeance, she finished what Adele started not dissimilar to how Squall finished what Laguna started, that's the point.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                And why does she want to time travel? Because shes been oppressed all her life and is afraid of SeeD and her death

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes? That's what I have been telling you the entire time. She already won in the future, but her death was from the past, hence time compression.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                And im telling you the motivations is insane and makes no sense ergo

                The story is told haphazardly
                >Ultimecia is one of the most interesting villains in gaming history
                Not even a little her goal itself is nonsensical to a rational man.

                She is not interesting

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What? How did you come to that conclusion? Genuinely, point out the fault in logic here, because I see none.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shes not interesting.
                >She wants to run from death and become immortal
                Logical understandable but its not interesting in fact its a fairly common theme across alot of stories.
                But I won't fault it because i consider that a classic
                What I do fault is her time compression which makes her immortal means that she devours all those souls into her, and she will hear those voices forever as she is immortal
                So what do we call those who hear voices? A mental illness which is what she will develop. And all these voices are in pain and suffering which is spelled out. So the voices with her alone for all of eternity. Sounds like hell
                Now what if she didnt know the voices will torture her forever. Well then she would be alone for all of existence which again would not do wonders for her mental state.
                So this is nonsensical to me. It sounds to me like you dont understand what extreme isolation does to a man.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What I do fault is her time compression which makes her immortal means that she devours all those souls into her, and she will hear those voices forever as she is immortal
                >So what do we call those who hear voices? A mental illness which is what she will develop. And all these voices are in pain and suffering which is spelled out. So the voices with her alone for all of eternity. Sounds like hell
                >Now what if she didnt know the voices will torture her forever. Well then she would be alone for all of existence which again would not do wonders for her mental state.
                >So this is nonsensical to me. It sounds to me like you dont understand what extreme isolation does to a man
                Is this bait? What is this nonsense? This can't be a real criticism. She doesn't even want to become immortal, that's misunderstanding plot of FF8 in its very foundation. Her death ALREADY HAPPENED IN THE PAST, she wants to escape that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon now its your turn to tell me where i lost you
                I clearly outlined why her plan is nonsensical
                >Devouring souls means she will be alone for eternity
                >with the voices of the dead
                >hearing voices in your head is a mental illness
                >if she doesnt hear voices she will still be alone
                >extreme isolation causes insanity
                literally where did i lose you i all but spelled out what the problem was.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Devouring souls means she will be alone for eternity
                This part, that's the part where you lost me, what the frick do you even mean? How does in any way your psycho analysis fanfic fit into story at all?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you trying to bait me thats literally whats stated.
                She says it, Rinoa says it. What do you find difficult to understand?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I am trying to bait, you are just literally talking nonsense, where the hell did
                >alone for eternity
                >voices in the head
                >hearing voices in the head
                >mental illness
                >still be alone
                Come from, literally, citation fricking needed. Squall experienced the Time Compression, there was no pain, no voices, no agony, that's the point of it, it's nothing, everything is ripped apart. Ultimecia wished to put time into a single moment by compressing it into a single and by doing so to escape death and reshape the existence as she saw fit. What you described makes zero fricking sense from the moment you decided it made sense to type it out.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I am not trying to bait
                Fixed, I am trying to have a genuine conversation here.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >alone for eternity
                >voices in the head
                >hearing voices in the head
                >mental illness
                >still be alone
                Fricking hell do you not understand basic psychology and common sense?
                Extreme isolation which means to be alone with nothing else.
                Rinoa says that she wants to create a world where she and she alone exists forever with nothing else
                The pic in this post

                Shes not interesting.
                >She wants to run from death and become immortal
                Logical understandable but its not interesting in fact its a fairly common theme across alot of stories.
                But I won't fault it because i consider that a classic
                What I do fault is her time compression which makes her immortal means that she devours all those souls into her, and she will hear those voices forever as she is immortal
                So what do we call those who hear voices? A mental illness which is what she will develop. And all these voices are in pain and suffering which is spelled out. So the voices with her alone for all of eternity. Sounds like hell
                Now what if she didnt know the voices will torture her forever. Well then she would be alone for all of existence which again would not do wonders for her mental state.
                So this is nonsensical to me. It sounds to me like you dont understand what extreme isolation does to a man.

                explains how doing that will drive you insane
                Now what is a hearing multiple voices in your head a sign of? See the pic in this post
                Its mental illness
                I wont even get into the nature of her stage where its like youre on an acid trip
                So her end game goal is literally to give herself mental illness
                These are your citations fricking common sense.
                I understood this as a child. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is such a bafflingly irrational point to make that profoundly doesn't make sense in any way shape or form. The only correct thing you pointed out about the plan is that, yes, indeed, she will be the center of creation and all alone if she wished to be, and you for some reason posit it as a genuine flaw in the story. Which she was anyway because her existence was considered to be a crime. What you think she had friends in the future? She just doesn't want to die.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                > bafflingly irrational point
                Its entirely rational, these are all well documented with a long history. You go i
                > a genuine flaw in the story
                No i don't, i consider her an uninteresting villain. Thats it. You're trying to prove to me that she's interesting and im trying to show you her motives are nonsensical.
                Shes a threat and moves the plot, i just dont find her interesting. I think its all an exercise of self sabotage.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Its entirely rational, these are all well documented with a long history.
                I don't think real world psychology accounts for beings who are destined to be hunted for existing since birth and who have died in the past.

                >I think its all an exercise of self sabotage.
                It's literally self-preservation. What do you think she was supposed to do when she knew heroes of time would come back from the past to inevitably kill her? It's a predetermined history, she knows it happened and it will always happen. What do you think she should've done?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why wouldnt it when real world psychology justifies her lashing out because shes been hunted for existing since birth.
                That which explains her lashing out also remonstrates her end goal you cant have it both ways.
                >It's literally self-preservation.
                And an exercise in futility. Because A) the story is about Fate and B) if she did compress time and ended up all alone, she' want to kill herself and if was every trapped in such a situation id sabotage my past self.
                >What do you think she should've done?
                I wouldnt have bothered because i dont believe in fate

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why wouldnt it when real world psychology justifies her lashing out because shes been hunted for existing since birth.
                >That which explains her lashing out also remonstrates her end goal you cant have it both ways.
                I am assuming you are referring to her speech in Deling City, and I don't know what the frick this is supposed to remonstrate to you to be honest, she just had a fricking giggle because from her point of view people who want to kill her are now celebrating her. No need for a psychoanalysis here to see the irony.

                >and ended up all alone
                Which she... already was. You are a baffling man.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The whole point of Ultimecia compressing time is to have ultimate power and not have to worry about SeeD trying to kill her. If your claim is that she has a different motive then you're going to have to prove it.
                https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/197343-final-fantasy-viii/faqs/44121

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i didnt say that wasnt a goal, i said it wasnt interesting
                I also said if she ever completed it she'd go insane which is not a rational choice to make.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >Devouring souls means she will be alone for eternity
                This part, that's the part where you lost me, what the frick do you even mean? How does in any way your psycho analysis fanfic fit into story at all?

                and

                Are you trying to bait me thats literally whats stated.
                She says it, Rinoa says it. What do you find difficult to understand?

                , you're going to have to prove those statements
                >if she ever completed it she'd go insane
                and that's another thing you're going to have to prove

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and that's another thing you're going to have to prove
                He's applying real world psycho-analysis here, that's his point. It's like, you know how people shit themselves when they die, he's saying the equivalent of that, that because people don't shit themselves when they die isn't interesting, and also thinks game is bad. He's applying that kind of logic here, unironically.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                How about you mind your own business if you aren't him? He made the statements, it's up to him to explain/prove it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because he's not gonna, he thinks his job here is done. I've been talking to him for hours to wriggle that much out of him

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people shit themselves when they die isn't interesting
                its not though.
                >and also thinks game is bad
                Which i also explained

              • 10 months ago
                Kino

                >Which i also explained
                You didn't, you just said it is in extremely convoluted and confusing manner that is incomprehensible to most people.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would argue you two are the only one that finds it confusing
                if anything i find you more confusing then i do Ultemica motivations.

                Quoting online articles about psychiatry does not prove something will happen in a game. Thanks for verifying you're making things up rather than going by what the game tells you.

                >prove something will happen in a game
                As i said to the other anon you cant have it both ways. You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations, yet you're refusing to take that extra step and seeing the consequences of her action
                A refusal to critically think about long term actions Is not a virture.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >yet you're refusing to take that extra step and seeing the consequences of her action
                Which is survival, yes. And you posit that it doesn't make sense.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being the sole survivor and developing mental illness from being alone in a hellscape doesnt make sense yes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it does when literally everything else that isn't you tries to kill you!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No anon, she was innocent once and there are hints in the story that she still wants to return to that innocence
                Her using to spare and even care for Seifer proves this.
                And no its still moronic to go into a hellscape with only yourself for company

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No anon, she was innocent once and there are hints in the story that she still wants to return to that innocence
                That directly contradicts the game. What innocence? What are you talking about? She knew she was going to be killed long ago in the future.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

                i gotta say, how is it the ones who love FF8 so much also the ones who cannot read in depth to character motivations that make these people actually 3 dimensional?
                For

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

                Thats the english translation in japan she says something completely different basically saying only she will exist
                For
                The same, her talks about her childhood and how cruel life was as an adult

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Thats the english translation in japan she says something completely different basically saying only she will exist
                Rinoa mentions that in the english script
                Rinoa: "...I should tell you this before I go. I was possessed out in space.
                There was a sorceress inside me. Ultimecia, a sorceress from the future.
                She's trying to achieve time compression. She's the only one who would
                be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other.
                For someone crying about other people not knowing the game you sure don't know it either

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                ah but anon that directly contradicts this anons words here

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

                doesnt it?
                I know it but does he know it?

                >no, ur wrong because of something I vaguely heard about that may or may not be true and maybe have made up myself that doesn't refute anything said and in fact doesn't support my made up claims in any way whatsoever
                Talking to you made me really re-think what people imply when they say FF VIII is bad.

                >Talking to you made me really re-think what people imply when they say FF VIII is good.
                Ditto, People who dont understand basic psychology who refuse to critically think trying to tell me a game has good story is really an eye opening experience

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't fricking attempt to grand stand while being stupidly wrong on every point you are trying to make. You don't pay attention, you aren't critically analyzing anything, you contradict the game directly, and you refuse to acknowledge any faults in your logic and just go on with your made up shit with zero evidence or attempts at reasoning.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off. Youre the one who takes words on face value and doesnt stop for one fricking second and wonders whats happening.
                Everything you say after is just projection. Because if you're this anon here

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

                you would know her words means frick all thanks to this text here

                >Thats the english translation in japan she says something completely different basically saying only she will exist
                Rinoa mentions that in the english script
                Rinoa: "...I should tell you this before I go. I was possessed out in space.
                There was a sorceress inside me. Ultimecia, a sorceress from the future.
                She's trying to achieve time compression. She's the only one who would
                be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other.
                For someone crying about other people not knowing the game you sure don't know it either

                And if Vice versa it means youre so blatantly harebrained you forgot the plot again.
                This isnt me grandstanding and trying to be smart
                This is you being so biased. Which makes perfect sense since you love the plot because youre self inserting a group of characters that have memory problems.

                Contradicts how?

                If shes the only one in existence how the frick is she going to make everyone her slaves?
                Please explain

                >that directly contradicts this anons words
                No? SeeD has prevented Ultimecia from realizing time compression so she promises them "death beyond death". It can't get anymore straight forward than that.

                Stupid shit that is the time compression
                “…eeD…
                SeeD…SeeD…
                SeeD, SeeD, SeeD!!
                It displeases me…
                Why do you interfere with sorceresses!?
                Why won’t you let me be free!?
                In just a little longer, my perfect world of time compression would have been completed…
                I won’t allow you to interfere…
                Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                You will feel agony as your thoughts are ripped apart and all your memories fade away to nothing.
                There won’t be a thing you can do, think or even feel!
                That’s the world I’m going to send you to!
                There will be absolutely nothing you can…
                …No, you’ll be able to worship me, the sole existence for all eternity!!
                So, who will come first!?
                Who will fight me!?
                Hmpf, it matters not, the end will be the same!
                I will choose!”
                So really like i said those who love ff8 cannot read worth shit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Stupid shit that is the time compression
                Yes?
                >my perfect world of time compression would have been completed
                Past tense. Looks like you're the one who can't even read their own quote that they haven't sourced.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Youre so blind you couldnt read the next two lines which are
                >I won’t allow you to interfere…
                >Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                Again proving you cant read worth shit. Thanks for playing
                >source
                The non localized translation.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you should probably source your quote then because it's contradicting itself

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >In just a little longer, my perfect world of time compression would have been completed…
                >I won’t allow you to interfere…
                >Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                Thats not contradiction, thats saying shes been in a setback but she will attempt again. Absolutely no reading comprehension worth shit, and you're arguing with me

                Well, first of all, you confused like three different anons in this single post at least, I think so.
                Second
                >If shes the only one in existence how the frick is she going to make everyone her slaves?
                >Please explain
                That's the point you still don't get?! SHE BECOMES TIMES ITSELF, if her plan with Time Compression was to be completed she could've changed the existence as she saw fit, she would've had time itself at the palm of her hands, so she could've killed over and over and over again, erasing their very being and recreating it from scratch. She wasn't banishing herself to some sort of limbo of loneliness, she wanted to do Time Compressions to be left the frick alone.

                You are dumb. I am done.

                No, none of you fanboys can read frick all and you and them prove it
                The exact fricking quote
                >She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other.
                If only she exists then there cannot be anything else
                You cannot make slaves if nothing else exists you unbelievably stupid shit.

                >The non localized translation.
                You barely speak English and you wish me to believe you speak Japanese?

                Black person you cant even read lol lmao

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >would have been completed
                past tense
                why is she talking in past tense about something that is yet to happen
                either the original japanese script is fricked or the translators don't know what they're doing
                why don't you just source the translation like I've asked you?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I ate dinner yesterday, i will eat again later
                Because you failed english. Black person do you not know how to google?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I ate dinner yesterday, i will eat again later
                except you're claiming it's
                >I didn't eat dinner last time, I will attempt to eat dinner now
                almost as if something prevented them from eating dinner or something...

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I didn't eat dinner last time, I will attempt to eat dinner now
                And how does that disprove anything? She was stopped and now she will attempt it again. As stated
                Where is the contradiction youre talking about?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She was stopped
                This was the claim that was being disputed so thanks for verifying it was right.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That was not was disputed what was disputed was your inability to recognize she would try again.

                If you're going to make a claim then you need to back it up. If you can't then you're essentially admitting you're making stuff up or are wrong.

                Im no longer spoonfeed morons. especially when you can literally just copy paste shit into google.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That was not was disputed
                Thanks for again vindicating me
                >what was disputed was your inability to recognize she would try again
                This is something you made up. Show me where I said she wouldn't try again.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok moron feel vindicated you couldnt get basic reading comprehension right and needed everything pointed out for you
                >This is something you made up. Show me where I said she wouldn't try again.
                You are

                >that directly contradicts this anons words
                No? SeeD has prevented Ultimecia from realizing time compression so she promises them "death beyond death". It can't get anymore straight forward than that.

                and

                >Stupid shit that is the time compression
                Yes?
                >my perfect world of time compression would have been completed
                Past tense. Looks like you're the one who can't even read their own quote that they haven't sourced.

                , these two lines here

                Youre so blind you couldnt read the next two lines which are
                >I won’t allow you to interfere…
                >Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                Again proving you cant read worth shit. Thanks for playing
                >source
                The non localized translation.

                literally say she will attempt again,You then spend several posts arguing with me about how that contradicts itself.

                >She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other.
                And? How does contradict anything, yes, her goal is becoming the ultimate existence by placing herself at the center of Time Compression. As I said, and I quote
                >she wanted to do Time Compressions to be left the frick alone.
                If Ultimecia says that
                >Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                >You will feel agony as your thoughts are ripped apart and all your memories fade away to nothing.
                >There won’t be a thing you can do, think or even feel!
                >That’s the world I’m going to send you to!
                >There will be absolutely nothing you can…
                >…No, you’ll be able to worship me, the sole existence for all eternity!!
                IT MEANS SHE CAN FRICKING DO IT BECAUSE SHE BECOMES FRICKING TIME ITSELF YOU ILLITERATE NIMROD

                > How does contradict anything
                Because you're a moron. And i mean that unironically. If i have to explain what ONLY and EXISTENCE to you, youre too far gone

                >just copy paste shit into google
                well now I know why you wanted me to do your work for you
                https://radiantbutterfly.tumblr.com/post/71485958945/ff8-ultimecia-dialogue-comparison
                >So I was reading about FF8 the other day still trying to understand the plot, when I decided to watch a let’s play of the final battle. Then I realised I should be practicing Japanese and found a JP version.
                great translation by someone who needs to practice japanese

                >Whatever
                Yes because the original has perfect translations.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ok moron feel vindicated you couldnt get basic reading comprehension right and needed everything pointed out for you
                Ironic considering it's the complete opposite that happened
                You can prevent someone from doing something once but saying that doesn't mean they'll never be able to do it again. Maybe stop making absurd assumptions?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                in your moronic mind perhaps, because youre still doing it lol
                >You can prevent someone from doing something once but saying that doesn't mean they'll never be able to do it again
                I didnt said that youre the one saying theres a contradiction when there wasn't

                >Yes because the original has perfect translations.
                Didn't say it did but LMAO @ you getting butthurt about it and trying to put more words in my mouth

                Forgot pic, Explain to me how a ff8 fan knows so little about the game and its shit translations

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >youre still doing it
                prove it
                >I didnt said that
                So now I'm vindicated again? Who'd have thought.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Give me your post numbers and ill show you where

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                How am I supposed to know what I'm still doing when you're the one making the claim? If you don't know what it is I'm still doing then don't claim I'm still doing it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you still breathing? I dont have to prove common sense bullshit

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                If it was common sense then you wouldn't have to argue it. Yet here you are seemingly unable to define or identify it and asking me to do it for you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its become clear to me that you idiots lack common sense along with basic reading skills.
                You're right i shouldn't have to argue it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes because the original has perfect translations.
                Didn't say it did but LMAO @ you getting butthurt about it and trying to put more words in my mouth

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You reduced yourself to just throwing insults and once again have no argument to make. You are a massive waste of time.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                As were you, you fricking European subhuman Black person.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok please explain how Rinoas text
                >She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other
                using the english language makes sense with what you typed.
                I will wait right here i have all key words defined.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, I'll pull a you on you this one time. Assuming that her Time Compression goes through and Ultimecia achieves her goal circumventing her predetermined death and becoming the ultimate existence and telling all other existence to frick off (which is everything I've said up to this point), and "think critically" here, as you like to say, post a quote that directly states that it's impossible for her to not control time and space into allowing other existences into her time-compressed world. As I stated before, that's what she WISHES to do, but go ahead, find a quote that directly states that nothing else but her can exist even against her WISHES.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the ultimate existence
                The only existence
                >that nothing else but her can exist even against her WISHES.
                That would be Rinoa's text

                Ok please explain how Rinoas text
                >She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other
                using the english language makes sense with what you typed.
                I will wait right here i have all key words defined.

                which literally is whats being discussed

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, because she WANTS to be that existence, I was explaining that to you while you were doing your psychoanalysis tripe. Doesn't mean Squall couldn't exist in that world if she wished for him to exist.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, because she WANTS to be that existence
                Okay so what you're really saying and not what you typed is you want me to find a quote that says Ultmecia will become a godlike existence instead of the "ONLY EXISTENCE"
                Do i have you correctly?
                >psychoanalysis tripe
                its not tripe its common sense

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                seems like your common sense is only common to yourself
                common sense would lead me to believe that you're the one lacking in it
                also both japanese translations talk about SeeDs only being able to praise/worship Ultimecia which would mean that on some level they will still exist

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >seems like your common sense is only common to yourself
                >common sense would lead me to believe that you're the one lacking in it
                Thats an odd self own. But at least you realize youre lacking.
                This is the moronic anon who doesnt have any reading comprehension isnt it?
                > Let your existence dissolve into the algorithm of time compression!
                I wonder what that means, it really makes me think

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Thats an odd self own
                ignorance truly is bliss, huh?
                > Let your existence dissolve into the algorithm of time compression!
                >but also be able to worship/praise me
                it's almost as if Ultimecia can pick and choose what she wants to become of people with the godlike power time compression will confer unto her or something

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, I'll explain what I mean to you, because that anon is too stupid. He basically assumes that because Rinoa said that Ultimecia wants to create a world where only she will exist he jumped to a conclusion like an Asperger that she won't be able to manipulate time and space for any other existence, there's no basis for this moron logic. I think Ultimecia threatened them that they can worship BEFORE they die, but there's no dialogue to suggest that she couldn't manipulate time and space to shape and form other existences, because... she becomes time and space. It's a really pointless argument because he never addresses his previously disproven points and just digs himself even further by jumping to conclusions and running with them.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >for any other existence,
                She is the only existence you cant manipulate time and space for shit that no longer exists.
                > but there's no dialogue to suggest that she couldn't manipulate time and space to shape and form other existences
                And since shes the only existence and cant manipulate time and space then that means shes all alone which is what she wants and what ive been saying since the onset.
                >disproven points and just digs himself even further by jumping to conclusions and running with them
                In the final moments you agreed all my points after spending several hours saying otherwise
                Unbelievable.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you just not understand that Ultimecia will exist? No other existence WILL NOT INCLUDE ULTIMECIA. She will become the existence. ULTIMECIA DOES WHAT SHE DOES TO SURVIVE NOT TO STOP EXISTING, WHICH IS WHY SHE TELL ALL OTHER EXISTENCE TO FRICK OFF BECAUSE ALL OTHER EXISTENCE HAS ALWAYS WANTED HER DEAD. And you think I agree with you? Delusional.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay so what you're really saying and not what you typed is you want me to find a quote that says Ultmecia will become a godlike existence instead of the "ONLY EXISTENCE"
                No, that's not what I am saying at all. She created Griever by pulling image of it from Squall's mind, that is literally the final boss fight. She can do that. What makes you think she wouldn't be able to do the same with Squall if she wished to do in time-compressed world?
                Here's another quote
                >“I am Ultimecia. I will compress all time and refute all existence.”
                She chooses to refute all existence to become the only existence. Yes. What evidence is there to support that no other existence is impossible even if she allows it?

                >its not tripe its common sense
                It's really not.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because shes negating their existence by becoming the only existence
                >shes pulling images of it from Squall's mind
                But since Squall will no longer exist who will she pull the image from?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who do you think? Come on, you can finish at least one rational thought in this entire thread, I believe in you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's really not.
                It really is, before i went into this thread i have literally never met someone who doesnt know what being a schizo means and doesnt know that being alone fricks with the mind.

                >Thats an odd self own
                ignorance truly is bliss, huh?
                > Let your existence dissolve into the algorithm of time compression!
                >but also be able to worship/praise me
                it's almost as if Ultimecia can pick and choose what she wants to become of people with the godlike power time compression will confer unto her or something

                >but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                Shes saying praise her and she'll spare their lives. Thats common villain flair

                Who do you think? Come on, you can finish at least one rational thought in this entire thread, I believe in you.

                Nothing

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >before i went into this thread i have literally never met someone who doesnt know what being a schizo means and doesnt know that being alone fricks with the mind.
                Oh god, you are back to this shit. Again with asinine assumptions. Why would it stop Ultimecia? Tell me, go on, elaborate.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shes saying praise her and she'll spare their lives
                >I will send you to such a world! There is nothing you can do ...... but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                >I shall send you into a world of nothingness, and there's nothing ... no, there is ONE thing you can do: worship me as the one true existence.
                Neither of those lines infer she will spare their lives, only that they will be able to praise/worship her, nevermind that she has already promised eternal punishment which wouldn't happen if they weren't allowed to exist in the first place.

                Do you just not understand that Ultimecia will exist? No other existence WILL NOT INCLUDE ULTIMECIA. She will become the existence. ULTIMECIA DOES WHAT SHE DOES TO SURVIVE NOT TO STOP EXISTING, WHICH IS WHY SHE TELL ALL OTHER EXISTENCE TO FRICK OFF BECAUSE ALL OTHER EXISTENCE HAS ALWAYS WANTED HER DEAD. And you think I agree with you? Delusional.

                Well anon the post limit has been reached
                I want to say its been a pleasure i learned something but all i learned is that at least 3 of you are complete fricking morons and i mean that unironically
                Idiots who dont know basic shit like what makes a schizo and how loneliness fricks with a persons mind
                Who cant go into basic reading comprehension and circle back to their inane argumenets
                i am dumber for having known you three. You dont know anything about the game you defend and even less about human nature
                >Why would it stop Ultimecia?
                If psychology didnt work against Ultimecia why would it start her insane hatred of human life?
                Why did that effect her but this won't?

                Do you just not understand that Ultimecia will exist? No other existence WILL NOT INCLUDE ULTIMECIA. She will become the existence. ULTIMECIA DOES WHAT SHE DOES TO SURVIVE NOT TO STOP EXISTING, WHICH IS WHY SHE TELL ALL OTHER EXISTENCE TO FRICK OFF BECAUSE ALL OTHER EXISTENCE HAS ALWAYS WANTED HER DEAD. And you think I agree with you? Delusional.

                She is the ONLY EXISTENCE as has been stated multiple times not EXISTENCE ITSELF merely the ONLY EXISTENCE

                >Shes saying praise her and she'll spare their lives
                >I will send you to such a world! There is nothing you can do ...... but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                >I shall send you into a world of nothingness, and there's nothing ... no, there is ONE thing you can do: worship me as the one true existence.
                Neither of those lines infer she will spare their lives, only that they will be able to praise/worship her, nevermind that she has already promised eternal punishment which wouldn't happen if they weren't allowed to exist in the first place.

                argue with this homosexual then

                NTA, I'll explain what I mean to you, because that anon is too stupid. He basically assumes that because Rinoa said that Ultimecia wants to create a world where only she will exist he jumped to a conclusion like an Asperger that she won't be able to manipulate time and space for any other existence, there's no basis for this moron logic. I think Ultimecia threatened them that they can worship BEFORE they die, but there's no dialogue to suggest that she couldn't manipulate time and space to shape and form other existences, because... she becomes time and space. It's a really pointless argument because he never addresses his previously disproven points and just digs himself even further by jumping to conclusions and running with them.

                I'm out peace

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >y-you're all dumb!
                >im outta here!!
                great rebuttal

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                make a new thread then ill argue how stupid you are there

                I could almost respect you if I knew you weren't sincere.

                i am 100% sincere, never in my life have i ever met someone who didnt know schizos hear voices or that loneliness can mentally break a man. Who when confronted with this basic information wants to call it inane and that its not common knowledge and tries to call me moronic for knowing it. Or the fact that at least two of you cannot understand basic english and tries to save face by insulting me instead.
                And all three of you who are such great fans they know absolutely nothing about the games shoddy translations whilst praising the story.
                That you three have the gall to defend something you yourselves dont fully know with contradictory statements to the character only highlights the original point i had since the beginning here

                in my experience its the other way around, ff8 players are the trannies and i havent played this game for over 23 years but ff8 defenders have turned it into their whole personality and cant take basic criticism.
                Or any discussion about story and plot lines without them them going ape shit over canon

                Except this is the first time i've met a group that literally failed even the lore part. At least those anon were such uber fans they could pull and post pics to highlight why they thought the things they did

                >Ultimecia wouldn't have done it if she googled what schizophrenia is
                Did I read that correctly?

                on queue the anon who doesnt know English once again fails reading comprehension

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I could almost respect you if I knew you weren't sincere.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shes saying praise her and she'll spare their lives
                >I will send you to such a world! There is nothing you can do ...... but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                >I shall send you into a world of nothingness, and there's nothing ... no, there is ONE thing you can do: worship me as the one true existence.
                Neither of those lines infer she will spare their lives, only that they will be able to praise/worship her, nevermind that she has already promised eternal punishment which wouldn't happen if they weren't allowed to exist in the first place.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just copy paste shit into google
                well now I know why you wanted me to do your work for you
                https://radiantbutterfly.tumblr.com/post/71485958945/ff8-ultimecia-dialogue-comparison
                >So I was reading about FF8 the other day still trying to understand the plot, when I decided to watch a let’s play of the final battle. Then I realised I should be practicing Japanese and found a JP version.
                great translation by someone who needs to practice japanese

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The gist is the same, but the extra details even in this little section make it a fair bit clearer what “time compression” involves and why she wants it.
                Anon, everything in that translation only supports how wrong you are.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >how wrong you are
                I'm not the one who's leaning on a translation by someone who has to practice japanese and didn't include the original japanese text for other people to compare
                also my main point was already agreed with and supposedly the argument was over a claim I never made, so the only wrong person here is the one who said I made a claim I didn't

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but the translation itself seems accurate if a second translation from >Reddit is to be believed:
                >"... eeD. SeeD ... SeeD. SeeD, SeeD. SeeD! How sickening.
                >Why can't I get rid of you? Why do you keep getting in my way?
                >The world is on the brink of the perfect time compression, I will not suffer your meddling any longer. Your very existence shall be absorbed by the algorithm. Experience what it means to have your memories ripped apart as your entire being fades into oblivion. I shall send you into a world of nothingness, and there's nothing ... no, there is ONE thing you can do: worship me as the one true existence.
                >So, which one of you will face me first? Huh, it matters not, the outcome will remain the same. Allow me to choose."

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The gist is the same, but the extra details even in this little section make it a fair bit clearer what “time compression” involves and why she wants it.
                Anon, everything in that translation only supports how wrong you are.

                Also, I found a dump of the Japanese text
                http://aizenn.web.fc2.com/talk/ffs24.html
                >気にいらない……。なぜ魔女の邪魔をする!なぜ私の自由にさせない!?もう少しで完全なる時間圧縮の世界が完成するというのに……。 邪魔はゆるさんぞ……。おまえらの存在など時間圧縮のアルゴリズムに溶けこんでしまうがいい!!激しい痛みとともに思考が分断され記憶も思い出も極限にまでうすめられるのだ。 何もできず、考えられず、思いすら何もない!そんな世界に、おまえたちをおくってやろう!おまえたちにできることは何も……いや、おまえたちにできることは唯一で永遠の存在である私をあがめること!!
                >さあ、最初に来るのは誰だ!?誰が私と戦うのだ!?
                >ふ……誰であろうと結果は同じこと!私が選んでやろう!
                I plugged it into DeepL and got this:
                >I don't like it. ...... Why interfere with the witch! Why don't you let me be free! I'm so close to completing a perfect time-compressed world. ...... I will not allow you to interfere. ...... Let your existence dissolve into the algorithm of time compression! With intense pain, your thoughts are fragmented and your memories and recollections are reduced to the barest minimum. Nothing can be done, nothing can be thought, nothing can be thought! I will send you to such a world! There is nothing you can do ...... but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                >Now, who will come first! Who will fight me!
                >Whoever it is, the result will be the same! I will choose!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you anon for finding the text, it would have been too tedious for me

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

                localizers ruining games circa 2000

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The world is on the brink of the perfect time compression
                except one is referring to sorceresses and the other is Ultimecia referring to herself
                I'd ask someone to post the actual japanese text so it can be compared but at this point I don't really care because the argument in itself is just semantics.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                [...]
                Also, I found a dump of the Japanese text
                http://aizenn.web.fc2.com/talk/ffs24.html
                >気にいらない……。なぜ魔女の邪魔をする!なぜ私の自由にさせない!?もう少しで完全なる時間圧縮の世界が完成するというのに……。 邪魔はゆるさんぞ……。おまえらの存在など時間圧縮のアルゴリズムに溶けこんでしまうがいい!!激しい痛みとともに思考が分断され記憶も思い出も極限にまでうすめられるのだ。 何もできず、考えられず、思いすら何もない!そんな世界に、おまえたちをおくってやろう!おまえたちにできることは何も……いや、おまえたちにできることは唯一で永遠の存在である私をあがめること!!
                >さあ、最初に来るのは誰だ!?誰が私と戦うのだ!?
                >ふ……誰であろうと結果は同じこと!私が選んでやろう!
                I plugged it into DeepL and got this:
                >I don't like it. ...... Why interfere with the witch! Why don't you let me be free! I'm so close to completing a perfect time-compressed world. ...... I will not allow you to interfere. ...... Let your existence dissolve into the algorithm of time compression! With intense pain, your thoughts are fragmented and your memories and recollections are reduced to the barest minimum. Nothing can be done, nothing can be thought, nothing can be thought! I will send you to such a world! There is nothing you can do ...... but praise me, your one and only eternal being!
                >Now, who will come first! Who will fight me!
                >Whoever it is, the result will be the same! I will choose!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                also source the translation, the only reason you wouldn't is because you feel like letting other people see it would help them prove you wrong

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                learn to google, im waiting for those other morons who will pop out of the wood works to defend their lack of understanding of basic plot points whilst arguing how good the story is.
                This is comedy for me

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're going to make a claim then you need to back it up. If you can't then you're essentially admitting you're making stuff up or are wrong.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other.
                And? How does contradict anything, yes, her goal is becoming the ultimate existence by placing herself at the center of Time Compression. As I said, and I quote
                >she wanted to do Time Compressions to be left the frick alone.
                If Ultimecia says that
                >Your very existences shall be absorbed by the algorithm of time compression!!
                >You will feel agony as your thoughts are ripped apart and all your memories fade away to nothing.
                >There won’t be a thing you can do, think or even feel!
                >That’s the world I’m going to send you to!
                >There will be absolutely nothing you can…
                >…No, you’ll be able to worship me, the sole existence for all eternity!!
                IT MEANS SHE CAN FRICKING DO IT BECAUSE SHE BECOMES FRICKING TIME ITSELF YOU ILLITERATE NIMROD

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The non localized translation.
                You barely speak English and you wish me to believe you speak Japanese?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, first of all, you confused like three different anons in this single post at least, I think so.
                Second
                >If shes the only one in existence how the frick is she going to make everyone her slaves?
                >Please explain
                That's the point you still don't get?! SHE BECOMES TIMES ITSELF, if her plan with Time Compression was to be completed she could've changed the existence as she saw fit, she would've had time itself at the palm of her hands, so she could've killed over and over and over again, erasing their very being and recreating it from scratch. She wasn't banishing herself to some sort of limbo of loneliness, she wanted to do Time Compressions to be left the frick alone.

                You are dumb. I am done.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that directly contradicts this anons words
                No? SeeD has prevented Ultimecia from realizing time compression so she promises them "death beyond death". It can't get anymore straight forward than that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Contradicts how?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no, ur wrong because of something I vaguely heard about that may or may not be true and maybe have made up myself that doesn't refute anything said and in fact doesn't support my made up claims in any way whatsoever
                Talking to you made me really re-think what people imply when they say FF VIII is bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're using psychology to understand Ultmeica motivations
                Actually I'm going by exactly what is said by Ultimecia

                Sorceress Ultimecia: "...SeeD... SeeD......SeeD...... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse
                all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You
                disgust me. The world was on the brink of that
                ever-elusive 'time kompression'. Insolent fools! Your vain
                krusade ends here, SeeDs. The price for your meddling is
                death beyond death. I shall send you to a dimension beyond
                your imagining. There, I will reign, and you will be my
                slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whom shall I
                exterminate first!? I'll start with you three!"

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                and i did right here

                Shes not interesting.
                >She wants to run from death and become immortal
                Logical understandable but its not interesting in fact its a fairly common theme across alot of stories.
                But I won't fault it because i consider that a classic
                What I do fault is her time compression which makes her immortal means that she devours all those souls into her, and she will hear those voices forever as she is immortal
                So what do we call those who hear voices? A mental illness which is what she will develop. And all these voices are in pain and suffering which is spelled out. So the voices with her alone for all of eternity. Sounds like hell
                Now what if she didnt know the voices will torture her forever. Well then she would be alone for all of existence which again would not do wonders for her mental state.
                So this is nonsensical to me. It sounds to me like you dont understand what extreme isolation does to a man.

                Look at that pic. Then really stop and think about it

                >Why wouldnt it when real world psychology justifies her lashing out because shes been hunted for existing since birth.
                >That which explains her lashing out also remonstrates her end goal you cant have it both ways.
                I am assuming you are referring to her speech in Deling City, and I don't know what the frick this is supposed to remonstrate to you to be honest, she just had a fricking giggle because from her point of view people who want to kill her are now celebrating her. No need for a psychoanalysis here to see the irony.

                >and ended up all alone
                Which she... already was. You are a baffling man.

                >Which she... already was. You are a baffling man.
                Those fresh corpses tell me she just managed to become alone.
                > this is supposed to remonstrate
                Im saying that psychology explains why she explains why she does what she does, so why shouldn't it be used to account for why her plan is insane.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Quoting online articles about psychiatry does not prove something will happen in a game. Thanks for verifying you're making things up rather than going by what the game tells you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think he understands that, but, I honestly don't what the frick is his problem, he's being irrational.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are expecting too much out of people. They played it when they were 13 years old, it flew past their heads and their childhood convictions stuck with them. Notice that FF8 has the most subtle storytelling with the least amount of LOOK AT THIS SEE THIS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO KNOW and also is the one you cannot just grind yourself mindlessly through. It doesn't surprise me.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hack writing is not subtle storytelling, FF7 had the same bullshit amnesia with Tifa trying to tell Cloud that hes full of it and questioning if shes not insane. Since its only two people it was believable.
                FF8 has 7 damn kids in a orphanage plus an adult with only one person being able to rub two brain cells together

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't remember because

                >Zell joined them when he was 12 or 13, only Selphie and Irvine has any "real" excuses.
                All of them except Irvine were using GFs.

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsnJBvokVzk

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    gays here actually doubted Sony lmao.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ?
        Ganker doubted Sony would deliver. Sony is top class when it comes to Action rpgs so xvi was gonna be good no doubt. Sony helped with demon's souls and bloodborne development.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is FF VIII thread, not FF XVI thread. And Sony has nothing to do with FF XVI, Square Enix just took their money for timed exclusivity.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay my bad

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game always had two main issues
    >drawing spells on low magic stat
    >levelling up
    low magic means drawing 0-3 spells, taking forever, other than refine makes drawing useless if you know about it
    levelling up to 30 makes enemies have the strongest spells so it's a spike in difficulty, then levelling more means enemies have a lot of hp

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I give a shit about rinoa and squall. I’m almost done with disk 1 and seifer is clearly the best.

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of the pics I've seen of Squalls loner monologues resonates hard with me and its making me want to play it despite only ever playing IV and XI but I feel like thats a stupid reason to invest time into a long rpg. Especially since I'm sure theres not that many scenes of it and for all I know the translation is shit anyway being a ps1 era rpg

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just give it a try, honestly, yes, translation is shit, but have things gotten better? Do you honestly think that today's translations are good?
      Here's a hint
      https://nichegamer.com/seven-seas-apologizes-for-inaccurate-translation-of-i-think-i-turned-my-childhood-friend-into-a-girl/
      All translations are shit anyway. FF8 is not a long game if you don't aim for completion, and not a hard game and well worth the investment.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you won't die from cringe, i promise

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same revisionists that say Midgar was the only good part of FF7. They literally made a remake out of a tutorial section of a game because of it.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't tell if these threads are someone that's actually this autistically rabid about FFVIII or it's someone autistically rabid about FFIX falseflagging as the former

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is correct

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fairly certain both of those parties are present

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to go back bros ;(

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i got this for free on the ps5. is there any problems with this version or am i good?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which version? There's original 2013 port which has problems and Remastered which has problems

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        its the remasterd version

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's ok

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            i will begin playin then

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF8

    best summons
    over world map
    triple triad

    story, meh

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >over world map
      is that a fricking joke
      it's utterly empty

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        its exists, unlike FFX and not a bunch of corridors like FFXIII

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not as bad as the games without overworld
          lel

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The magic draw system needed the ability to draw 100 if the target was asleep or incapacitated in some way. It was based in the magic attack stat, but it capped out at 9 most times.

    I should have to soend 20 minutes to stock up 100 scans from a sleeping mosquito monster.

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    After realizing I missed drawing siren I cheated and got 100 magic, gf abilities, and later after not getting Rosetta Stone after playing the card game for hours I got all items out of spite
    I’m too fricking old for grinding these games and it stings

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's amusing that FF8 is so bad it makes a shitty modern jrpg franchise about a military academy look far more competently written in comparison.

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only time I played this was on release back in the day and got filtered somewhere around disc 3. What's the best way to play it these days? Is the remaster really that bad? If it's just some ugly models and other minor weirdness I don't see myself really giving a shit about it.

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the flashback scenes are the only good part of the game. Where you play as Squall's dad who is objectively cooler than Squall. Also opening up the evil magic lamp that you just find in your inventory is a pretty good moment in the game.

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The plot is kino and so is the music. Shame about the convoluted battle system tho

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kino
    this word is in desperate need of a site wide filter

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      kino

    • 10 months ago
      Kino

      Kino

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    7gay here
    It took me a while but I finally understand the genius behind 8

    Absolute ludokino
    Basically what 7 was orininally supposed to be, but 7 is still better in a few regards.

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The assassination mission is pure kino

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Junction best system

  72. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's something amazing about the moment odin loads into your fight with seifer and you're shitting yourself because youve never seen him just end a boss before, then he gets fricked up. They need more moments like that in games. 8 was peak final fantasy.

  73. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Squall dies at the end of disc 1 btw

  74. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haters gonna hate but FF8 was the best FF game and had the best soundtrack.

  75. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    OST - KINO

  76. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone knows Ellone is Ultimecia and Rinoa is Adel

  77. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have supernova

  78. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Squall is such a fricking homosexual

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, Selphie best girl.

  79. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I legit tried to enjoy this game. But no. Just no.

  80. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  81. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ultimecia wouldn't have done it if she googled what schizophrenia is
    Did I read that correctly?

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