>DLC full of weapons. >Access to DLC locked behind boss that gives you the best weapon in the game

>DLC full of weapons
>Access to DLC locked behind boss that gives you the best weapon in the game
What were they thinking???

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet bleed will be heavy nerfed since you’re fighting ghosts and corpses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I also deals fire damage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why the frick ghosts are weak to lightning instead of holy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My time is come.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy bros... are we back?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope so
        >Heavy Brick w/ Golden Land

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thing is gonna be outclassed by weapons with better movesets and cooler ashes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get within 20 metres of something
      >spam L2
      >NIHIL NIHIL NIHIL
      >15K damage 4 full bleed procs
      >Goes through walls and ceilings
      >also fire damage, because why not

      Mohgs Spear is so broken

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They had to halve its range in PVP for the L2 to not completely obliterate people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The weapon honesty tier list is going to need another two entire tiers in 16 days

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is Vyke's spear that good in pve? I was thinking about making a frenzy spearman build using it.
        I don't do any pvp.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's okay, but not exceptional at all. Frenzy isn't a PVE status effect, so you're just left with an okay fire great spear.

          I haven't been following this at all, what level is the player expected to be at for the DLC?

          Anywhere from 90 to 150. DLC has a separate leveling system that only applies in DLC areas, think flask upgrades but for your AR / defenses.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >DLC has a separate leveling system that only applies in DLC areas
            that sounds kinda moronic and out of place in a souls game but we'll see

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              seems good to me
              in bloodborne and DS3 you just stomp where you left off in the main game after clearing the DLC due to all the levels and upgrades you get, really ruins the climax of the game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's also true, and changing the scaling of the main game because of a dlc would be even worse. I guess there's no elegant solution for this, I hope they've implemented their idea well

                I don't know, it's an acceptable solution to the wider variety of player character levels. However, I do think it undermines there being a standardized level of difficulty, more so than summoning. With summoning, it's obvious that you're decreasing the difficulty of the game. With the DLC system, it's unclear if it's similar or if it's something you're expected to engage with by default. We'll see.

                I also wonder whether they're shortsighted enough to have it affect PVP damage.

                Its more like a new upgrade system than levelling

                I'm curious about how big of an effect each pseudo-level will have, and about how hard the dlc will be if you decide to only get a few of those upgrades (it's unlikely that you'll want to scour the entire area every playthrough to get everything)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just going to do the DLC without upgrades at 150 (while still leveling) and see how it feels.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know, it's an acceptable solution to the wider variety of player character levels. However, I do think it undermines there being a standardized level of difficulty, more so than summoning. With summoning, it's obvious that you're decreasing the difficulty of the game. With the DLC system, it's unclear if it's similar or if it's something you're expected to engage with by default. We'll see.

              I also wonder whether they're shortsighted enough to have it affect PVP damage.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its more like a new upgrade system than levelling

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its a fine fire spear until mesmer shit in the dlc

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vyke's spear (and madness in general) got heavily nerfed, it isn't very good. power stanced cross-naginatas is the current most OP build for PVP

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is Vyke's spear that good in pve? I was thinking about making a frenzy spearman build using it.
            I don't do any pvp.

            Oh you asked for PVE, it's actually really bad in that case. Almost every npc is immune to madness, so you're better off with almost any other greatspear in PVE.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Madness is virtually useless in PVE, to the point where the only significant boss it applies to is Gideon and Mimic Tears. Deathblight is somehow worse, as literally everything is immune to it but Mimic Tears

          Consumables stillt took a long ass time to mature and they're still not there yet. To the point you could consider it a decade long experiment that failed now that perfumes just became a main weapon instead.
          They went from flat damage to getting scaling and now to be craftable but it's all still kinda meh.
          It feels like they WANTED them to be more important in ER because in the older games, they quickly fell off around the midgame but in ER too you're kinda wasting your time throwing fire pots if you don't have a dedicated build with the jar talisman, jar head and tons of STR.
          We have so many AoWs now that either straight up give you a projectile or a long reaching stab/lunge you'd rather dish out heavy stance and HP damage with your main weapon than throw a badly tracking, low damage, finite pot consumable.

          Bows and Crossbows are in the same boat, but From doesn't really seem to give a shit about them despite having an assload of arrows/bolts you can craft due to how dogshit the weapons are for anything other than "I don't have the FTH/INT for spells or throwable items and want to draw individual enemies in to kill"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Automatic crossbow is great. You buy infinite burr bolts and then just shoot everything to death regardless of build. I beat the fire giant with that lol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Pulley Crossbow and the Serpent Bow are the only ones I can even conceive as actually useful due to the former is able to shit out bolts at a decent speed and the latter scales with ARC meaning buildup of status effects actually happens at a reliably rate outside picking one that has Barrage forcibly built in and dumping your FP on that

              The jumps are very easy. I'm not very good at precise speedrun shit and even I can do it reliably and fast.
              The places to stand on are very generous even if they don't look like that.
              [...]
              True. Having no cool AoWs for those was disappointing. All those flashy moves for melee weapons but no homing arrow swarm or giant explosive magic arrows for bows?
              [...]
              That bows/crossbows just get relegated to apply status effects is just indicative of the problem.

              The issue with the Bow AoW is that they're stuck with being "I can shoot faster", "I shoot one arrow a little harder than normal" and "I shoot a bunch in the air and they come falling down on the target", while Crossbows are all locked into taking Kick. Interacting with all of the bows is virtually identical as the only differences between any of them is slight damage and weight differences and if you're lucky enough to be able to use 1 of 6 AoWs that are available (oh wait, 3 only work on Light Bows and Bows, 1 is Light Bows only, and 1 is Greatbows only)

              Why the frick ghosts are weak to lightning instead of holy

              The skeleton enemies are for sure weaker to Holy damage than Lightning.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The issue with the Bow AoW is that they're stuck with being "I can shoot faster", "I shoot one arrow a little harder than normal" and "I shoot a bunch in the air and they come falling down on the target", while Crossbows are all locked into taking Kick. Interacting with all of the bows is virtually identical as the only differences between any of them is slight damage and weight differences and if you're lucky enough to be able to use 1 of 6 AoWs that are available (oh wait, 3 only work on Light Bows and Bows, 1 is Light Bows only, and 1 is Greatbows only)
                I think that this is just a lack of imagination. Bow AoWs could easily incorporate some posistioning moves. like a long sideway dash where you shoot a 3 arrow volley. With INT/FAITH bows you can do equally flashy stuff like Moonveil, Rivers of Blood, blaspehmous blade etc. just give the arrows lots of particle effects and explosions, give them impact. Curving shots that leave a trail, masses of homing arrows or something "hitscan" like the Frenzied Burst. It's mostly a matter of presentation really.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not only that you cant infuse their ashes of war when you already have laughable damage numbers even maxed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah what's up with the fricking scaling on those things?
                Composite bow always had a C/C scaling and now even at max level it's a E/D?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They have some moronic fear it turn into dragon dogma bow power fantasy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They really only seem to exist to pull individual enemies to you if you feel like playing an area cautiously at this point, and it's a slap in the face that the the two bows that use FTH ias a scaling stat are built to be split Physical and Holy meaning it's complete dogshit late game. I find it absolutely bewildering you can't customize the bows at all despite what feels like half the crafting system being arrows and bolts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Varre's bouquet
        >you didn't beat the game
        Not even as a bleed weapon does this make sense

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Started a new char for the DLC and finally got a grave scythe drop.

        Shits busted, does more stagger damage than a greatsword, amazing range, modest stat requirements and bleed.

        Also glad to have a scythe that scales off strength

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stone club should be you didnt beat the game tier. it's incredibly fast with insane poise damage, its only weakness being its range

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >frost weapons
        you didn't beat the game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >torches still not on the list just torch pole AKA not really a torch
        DID I BEAT THE GAME USING ONLY THE BASE TORCH

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Whip in you honestly beat the game

        Dual wielding whips is busted. Set one for bleed and one for poison and laugh at pve and pvp collectively

        they really had too many ideas for this game so some were implemented a bit awkwardly. Stuff like the cracked pots increasing how many of a certain throwable you can make would have been neat if you only had to craft each type once with a unique item and then they replenished automatically when resting (if not for free make it automatically consume some common material that "charges" all pots in the same category). Instead you have to just craft each one normally every time but you are also limited in how many you can make, such an annoying system and the million of crafting materials clutter the drops in every area

        Lords of the fallen does throwables so much better than souls. They all just use various amounts of 'ammo' and you can get ammo pouch consumables to refill it, or your ammo refills at bonfires.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >99 Strength double Prelates Infernal Crozier colossal hammer
        It's time to kill some bosses

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sacrificial axe in Masochist
        >All of the axes in YBTG
        These are all solid weapons. Hells, I finished the game on a scuffed dragon incant build with the sacrificial axe (had no poise/time to really do any dragon incants on the later bosses so had to just wear them down with the axe)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hoarfrost axe
        >You beat the game tier

        ???????

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man, I finally gave the Ruin's Greatsword a try for my getting ready for the DLC playthrough and now I hear its OP. Lame.

        Is Radahn's double swords good for a strength with some INT build? What other good strength/INT options are there?

        Also, can't decide on a strike weapon. Torn between Great Stars, Brick Hammer, Giant Hammer and Prelates Inferno Crozier.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What makes bolt of gransax good? I found it super awkward to use.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          With the ash you can bully Malenia into submission with 0 effort.
          It's range and poise DMG is such, that you can just howitzer through the entirety of the game, given it's low FP cost.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Eochaid's Little Bitty Maria Greatsword
        >Baemore
        >Literally any thrusting sword
        >Literally any thrusting spear
        >Literally any weapon infusible with bleed
        >Hoarfrost Axe
        >Not in You didn't beat the game
        Anon what are you even smoking, fix your list.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fixed It For You

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fixed It For You

        I beat the game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        twinned knight swords are super braindead with spinning slash.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I used the ice rapier for maybe half of one playthrough and it was good. I only switched because I prefer heavy weapons.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a couple days ago i beat the entire game using only a torch. Did I finally beat the game?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sacred relic sword the reward from beating the game in the you did not beat the game category

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then they will nerf all the good weapons just like they did with the base game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But Blashphemous Blade has been one of the best weapons in the game since release. What do you mean anon?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't pass the corpse piler bar

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dont know what that means. I just know it unga bungas every enemy and boss to death.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            RoB sucks, just equip a Nagakiba with double slash and bloodflame blade for a 10x better weapon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              because it was nerfed that's the point of the conversation anon sama

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Corpse piler has been smashed with the nerf hammer. Now it's just "good", not "beats the game for you"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They buffed 90% of the weapons in ER. It basically had next to none direct nerfs aside from sword of night and flame

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't expect the player base to respect for every single fight.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not blasphemous blade

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mash L2 to win in a giant aoe
    do you really find this fun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you use MSS you didn't beat it
      >if you use spirit summon you didn't beat it
      >if you use torrent you didn't beat it
      >If you leveled up you didn't beat it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you use the clearly overpowered weapon for casual homosexuals to beat the game you really didn't do it
        >WHAT? DID YOU JUST TELL ME TO BEAT THE GAME SL1 WITH MY FISTS?
        This is such an easy topic to draw a line on. Why do you morons insist on hyperbolics?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >kill second hardest boss in the game
          >get cool weapon as a reward
          >fun hating virgins think it's cheating
          I first timed Malenia with +10 MSS L2 spam and a +10 mimic tear and loved every second of it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's wonderful, but you didn't beat the game, and that's okay.

            >if you beat the game you didn't really beat the game
            Sasuga, Incel-kun

            Want me to say it again?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I first timed Malenia with +10 MSS L2 spam
            based
            >and a +10 mimic tear
            nvm cringe

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >didn't use mimic chad
              you didn't beat the game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >not partnering up with shit eater

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you beat the game you didn't really beat the game
          Sasuga, Incel-kun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, use your mimic tier with it and laugh.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually hard to pull off with Melania.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Laughs in blasphemy

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fingerprint homosexual’s brain crashes whenever this comes out

    It’s based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >blasts you from 50 ft away while you play with your rod

      sit down bleedcel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >50 ft. away
        Those are rookie numbers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grenade using mana its moronic

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's the price you pay for how easy they are to craft. Although I suppose the big INT pots probably cost FP too, but the Redmane and dragonbolt ones don't.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The limited ammo numbers should be enough

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Grenade using mana its moronic

                I totally agree. I expected those consumables to be elemental options for purely phyical fighters while hybrids or full casters can cast spells for that.
                But the pots scaling with the brain stats AND using FP completely defeats the purpose, just get a talisman/staff and use the real thing then.
                What's even wierder is that the lightning and fire pots DO scale with STR/DEX but the holy/magic ones don't.
                Also: I think the greases are completely useless. Status effects aside, magic/holy/fire/lightning greases do frick all. They give a flat damage increase that falls off by the time you reach Liurnia. In the end game, the buff makes up like 0.2% of your overall damage.
                They really should consider letting some consumables just scale with overall level (no particular stat) or let us upgrade the crafting kit itself to create +1/+2/+3/etc. versions of the items or something.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They also completely shafted bows/Crossbows with the new DLC weapons, now that we get a dedicated mid range projectile weapon with the throwing knives.
                Infinite ammo and definitely better scaling while attacking faster and having a hand free for a shield. Why even use a bow anymore aside from maybe cheesing an enemy from very far away in some circumstances?
                Their damage was already shit and crafting elemental arrows was actually worse than just buying standard arrows. At +25 and high stats, a normal arrow does more DMG than a fire arrow due to moronic split damage, even on enemies that are weak to fire.
                Those systems are borderline broken but we have enough other toys to distract us from that fact.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they really had too many ideas for this game so some were implemented a bit awkwardly. Stuff like the cracked pots increasing how many of a certain throwable you can make would have been neat if you only had to craft each type once with a unique item and then they replenished automatically when resting (if not for free make it automatically consume some common material that "charges" all pots in the same category). Instead you have to just craft each one normally every time but you are also limited in how many you can make, such an annoying system and the million of crafting materials clutter the drops in every area

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they concede this by now giving us infinite perfumes and throwing knives with the DLC.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wait really?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it takes up your weapon slot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Throwing knives and martial arts are dedicated weapons. You can be a knifeslinger or someone straight out of a Bruce Lee movie if you want.

                damn, sounds fun as frick, I'm back to being hyped for this dlc

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Throwing knives and martial arts are dedicated weapons. You can be a knifeslinger or someone straight out of a Bruce Lee movie if you want.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see so many webms of castle morne invasions and everyone has these utterly ridicoulus builds with weapons you only get way later in the game.
                Invasions have become such a stupid arms race between hosts and invaders, I swear.
                I really miss the more "organic" invasions of early DeS.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing wrong with it if you earned it, invasions have never been organic the entire feature is just for griefing players.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The scrapping spear players sure KEK

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why I said EARLY DeS. That was long before PvP became its own wierd sport and people would just invade with their pve builds to try it out. At that point the wiki was barely filled. There also were no PvP veterans yet because everyone had about the same experience with the game. I know that this only lasted like 3-6 months but it was still the most fun I ever had in souls PvP. (Early DaS briefly captured this again to be fair).
                Now everyone just looks up le meta on wikis or let youtubers show them that shit within 3 days of release.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they really had too many ideas for this game
                Anon, we are complaining about stuff that has been in the game since Demon's souls.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Consumables stillt took a long ass time to mature and they're still not there yet. To the point you could consider it a decade long experiment that failed now that perfumes just became a main weapon instead.
                They went from flat damage to getting scaling and now to be craftable but it's all still kinda meh.
                It feels like they WANTED them to be more important in ER because in the older games, they quickly fell off around the midgame but in ER too you're kinda wasting your time throwing fire pots if you don't have a dedicated build with the jar talisman, jar head and tons of STR.
                We have so many AoWs now that either straight up give you a projectile or a long reaching stab/lunge you'd rather dish out heavy stance and HP damage with your main weapon than throw a badly tracking, low damage, finite pot consumable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you get bomb weapons in the dlc so you can actually be a grenadier. Why the frick it took them so long to break conventions I dont know

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          imagine filming yourself throwing shit off a ledge 200 times until you eventually hit some moron by sheer coincidence.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is anyone planning on helping people with Mohg in the week leading up to the DLC

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope frick them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean the boss that's right next to the area where you can get 1,000,000 runes in twenty minutes? Nah they'll be fine

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I will ignore every weapon except the one reddit told is le best!!!

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is str/arc right? been wanting to get one of those builds to DLC

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      War cry bleed-infused UGS, thank me later

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely based taste OP

      it's funny that despite the fact that it has a C in strength and a C in arc, you get a bit less than 100 AR on the weapon taking your strength from the absolute minimum to 60, even accounting for 2handing bonus strength. This is because for all the special arcane weapons the strength and dex scaling only apply to the physical damage, while the arcane scaling applies to both the physical damage scaling as well as the fire damage. So in practice, weapons like mohgwyn's spear, rivers of blood, and eleonora's poleblade all get much more damage from arcane than you would expect. For a weapon with seemingly equal scaling like mohgwyn's spear it's actually more of an arcane weapon, and gets much more value out of arcane than strength, as you get more damage out of arcane, you get more bleed out of arcane, and the weapon art scales purely with arcane and not with physical stats at all. The same applies to rivers of blood, which despite having a B in dex and a D in arcane gets more value out levels in arcane than dex.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >despite the fact that it has a C in strength and a C in arc, you get a bit less than 100 AR on the weapon taking your strength from the absolute minimum to 60, even accounting for 2handing bonus strength
        I mean assuming you have 60 arcane regardless

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know that some of you gays have watched the youtuber videos about the dlc, so what's the consensus so far?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't been following this at all, what level is the player expected to be at for the DLC?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      High, so dont bother worry about overlevel unless you care about the crappy pvp and coop

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DLC which is mostly endgame shit should not have endgame weapons
    Frick off, idiot.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely based taste OP

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Banished K***ht armor
      my homie

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to replay ER for the DLC
    >remember how bored I was for the first playthrough after 60 hours
    >don't know if I have the will to play Souls game anymore
    Sad

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You think this is bad? Neptunia had DLC that gave you complete EQ sets for entire party stronger than anything you could find in game at level 1.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now the real question is, what will be the appropriate level for the DLC?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You get access to it when both Mohg and Radahn are dead, so somewhere in the latter half of the level curve

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever you need for the new weapons but since mohg its a gatekeeper should be high enough you dont need to spend more runes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Consensus after the playtest where some streamers/youtubers were invited to is:
      between 120-150.
      The "demo" chars were all at 150 with fully upgraded gear.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >try a 2H greatshield only playthrough for funsies
    >greatshields have zero hyper armor unlike every other big slow weapon so every single fricking hollow and dog staggers you out of every attack unless you poisemax your armor
    lame

    the stagger damage is insane though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just grab the bleed shield and spam the shield charge weapon art, it's how I beat fire giant at like level 20

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poise affects hyperarmor.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        some weapons have innate hyperarmor though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AFAIK hyperarmor just gives you a flat poise buff for the duration of the attack. Let's just say a greathammer R2 gives you 10 poise during certain frames then you'd still benefit from wearing 20 poise worth of armor to get 30 during the attack.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They changed how poise works from the first game to where the poise is most active when you're in the middle of an attack now instead of just being a passive thing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Occult fingerprint shield with shield crash
      People try blocking and even if they have stamina to tank the entire ash of war madness procs and rapes them for massive damage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Blood Fingerprint also scales the madness, even if less, and you also get 120-150 bleed buildup on each hit.
        Even good players have trouble keeping an eye on both bars at the same time.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Complete the Wyndham Catacombs because it's nearby
    >Boss is an electric Watchdog
    >Pretty frickin simple
    >Watch some player phantoms fight it after
    >One has the Bolt of Gransax
    >Another has the Blasphemous Blade
    I wonder how many of these people just beelined to legacy dungeons and how many had the weapons dropped for them by others. Cause the Wyndham Catacombs are really early on in Altus.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      neither weapon have particularly steep requirements to reach. one is the middle of a field and the other literally hands you the best weapon to kill the boss with

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >add a frickton of cool unique weapons
    >locked behind endgame DLC
    it's bloodborne all over again

    thankfully ER at least has respec unlike BB

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can't you rush both Radahn and Mohg pretty quickly if you want? Although I think you are forced to go online to do so which is kinda bullshit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mohg is hard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well yeah

          >they really had too many ideas for this game
          Anon, we are complaining about stuff that has been in the game since Demon's souls.

          the crafting system is new and it's pretty shoddy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Although I think you are forced to go online
        They patched that out a long time ago now. For Varre's questline you now have an NPC sign in altus plateau (between windmill village and the bridge over to gelmir) and if you kill that NPC, Varre considers this the same as having done all 3 invasions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they patched the moronic varre questline so now you can do a summon invasion in altus plateau to unlock the crest shortcut

          ah thanks for the correction, that's good to hear. Having to reach the consecrated snowfields if you didn't want to go online was dumb af

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No they patched the moronic varre questline so now you can do a summon invasion in altus plateau to unlock the crest shortcut

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mohg is hard

        how to cheese mogh with early character?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          easy
          you farm the shit out of that bird in mohg's palace for an hour or two, and you BTFO mohg with a lvl 150 character

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you farm the shit out of that bird
            Thinking men use this one instead:

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              easy
              you farm the shit out of that bird in mohg's palace for an hour or two, and you BTFO mohg with a lvl 150 character

              >2024
              >rune farming
              Literally just use cheat engine or a mule save if you're going to do that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry i'm not a cheating Black person

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what the frick? how do people even discover this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The concept was disovered when glitch hunting for speed runs. It basically offloads the terrain so that all enemies start falling to their death.
                So after that people just needed to find places where you could jump past the kill box.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              just use the glitch to outright kill the boss

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm pretty sure people have found that bird is faster and more consistent given the parkour you've got to do to set this one up

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The jumps are very easy. I'm not very good at precise speedrun shit and even I can do it reliably and fast.
                The places to stand on are very generous even if they don't look like that.

                Madness is virtually useless in PVE, to the point where the only significant boss it applies to is Gideon and Mimic Tears. Deathblight is somehow worse, as literally everything is immune to it but Mimic Tears
                [...]
                Bows and Crossbows are in the same boat, but From doesn't really seem to give a shit about them despite having an assload of arrows/bolts you can craft due to how dogshit the weapons are for anything other than "I don't have the FTH/INT for spells or throwable items and want to draw individual enemies in to kill"

                True. Having no cool AoWs for those was disappointing. All those flashy moves for melee weapons but no homing arrow swarm or giant explosive magic arrows for bows?

                Automatic crossbow is great. You buy infinite burr bolts and then just shoot everything to death regardless of build. I beat the fire giant with that lol

                That bows/crossbows just get relegated to apply status effects is just indicative of the problem.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's suprisingly weak to bleed so just choose fanged imp ashes as a starting gift, grab bleed weapon yourself and go to town. Do Yura's questline for the blood tear, eleonora won't spawn otherwise. You could just use her twinblade anyway since it's a somberstone weapon and you can get it to +10 easily.
          then upgrade the imps a bit. you need to beat radahn too so you should be level ~40 by then. If you really need to, grab mohgs shackle as well. And then just go to town with bleed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Think they patched it out, but you used to be able to shoot him with a bow from outside of his area till he died.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You could kill his ai brain by using the shackle you get from the capital sewers outside the boss arena then enter

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AOE status effect
    Didn't beat the game

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is mogh's spear, blasphemous blade and moonlight gs still the strongest pve weapons?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're definitely at the top but 2bh I'd consider any reasonably heavy weapon with a good AoW at the top.
      Stance breaking is king in ER, followed by bleed/frost/rot so whatever lets you do that alot and easily wins.

      One handed lighter weapons with no gimmicks are by far the hardest for PvE because you can't just stunlock your way out of everything.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *ding ding*

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >watch new preview of dlc
    >wow it's so cool, so many new weapons
    >the movesets look so stylish
    >remember that despite the new weapons being so cool, your only consistent method of dodging is a fricking roll
    >interest plummets to 0
    they've just learned nothing about being cool from bloodborne or sekiro
    anyone else feel the same?
    i fricking hate rolling so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. this seems like such a minor thing to get upset about that it feels like you're acting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not minor when koreans implement deflect and even scriptkiddies but no we must stick to slap shield or barehand in the air to deflect frames allowed to

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They literally have a crystal tear in the DLC that gives you deflect

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And its fricking moronic the whole thing instead of a talisman

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >And its fricking moronic the whole thing instead of a talisman
              That would be the most OP talisman in the game, my ESL friend

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no it is not
        rolling is fricking stupid, especially when you're wearing heavy armor
        it wasn't stupid in ds1 or 2, as the games felt really slow, and rolling does fit that tempo of gameplay
        since ds3 it always looked moronic and uncool

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its moronic against swordmen boss like memenia( hell it has a hp regain if you block her attacks)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, that's what i'm saying
            rolling in elden ring or ds3 feels like you're a kid playing in the playground's sandbox, because of how much you're rolling
            like i said, it did make sense in ds1 or 2, but it's just so stupid that they're STILL sticking to it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah nah still sounds like perfomative outrage to bait some (You)s.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ok moron
            bench 1rm?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That too just sounds like you want to provoke.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is the single biggest flaw in Souls combat, i-frame dodging is boring and unrewarding and the entire game revolves around it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't even care about i-frames, rolling is just UNCOOL, plain and simple
          imagine if dante's trickster was fricking rolling instead of a cool dash with an afterimage
          imagine if rolling was all you could do in nioh, no matter the stance
          imagine if bloodborne had rolling instead of a sidestep
          it's moronic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Worse yet they implement deflect as a crappy new potiontear buff ( can be fixed in pc)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not minor when koreans implement deflect and even scriptkiddies but no we must stick to slap shield or barehand in the air to deflect frames allowed to

      no it is not
      rolling is fricking stupid, especially when you're wearing heavy armor
      it wasn't stupid in ds1 or 2, as the games felt really slow, and rolling does fit that tempo of gameplay
      since ds3 it always looked moronic and uncool

      It is the single biggest flaw in Souls combat, i-frame dodging is boring and unrewarding and the entire game revolves around it.

      >pretending there's anything wrong with a dodge roll, let alone that quickstep, bloodhound step, blocking and countering (with a shield or a weapon if you hate shields) don't exist

      you haven't even played the game, gays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, i just explained what's wrong with dodge rolling, if you can't read it's not my problem
        not that all these options you listed don't exist, dodge rolling is just way too convenient not to use, it's a base game mechanic, used by everyone
        quickstep and bhs take up the ash of war slot, you're asking me to forget using a moveset expansion just so i can not roll like a kid in a playground
        blocking and countering is playstyle-specific, what if i wanna dual wield and be more nimble instead of blocking?
        i beat the game twice, and had two more runs with the convergence mod, it's miyahacki's one good soulshit game
        to repeat myself for a third time, it is silly to be a god-slaying superguy, throwing lightning bolts, warping short distances with ashes of war, and still roll like you're a schoolboy at physed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can block and guard counter.
          >what if I don’t want to block?!
          You can use quickstep
          >what if I don’t want to use that AoW?!
          You can crouch, jump, roll, backstep, and parry…?
          >…

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>what if I don’t want to use that AoW?!
            it's not that i don't wanna use it, it's that it's objectively a poor choice, considering the potential attack power you're gonna have with another, actually useful ash of war
            >You can crouch
            oh yeah, what a good alternative to rolling that works on 5% of the game's attacks
            >jump
            same situational tool as crouching, but way more useful, to be fair
            >roll
            that is what we are talking about, rolling is shit, have you been following the discussion, or did you just chime in to shitpost?
            >backstep
            does this shit even have i-frames? backstep is for pvp juking, not for dodging bosses' combos
            >parry…?
            gimmick shit that's only ever practical in pve if you're a nolife autist ready to invest hours upon hours of learning parry timings for each specific enemy
            your arguments are moronic, and i think your ability to read is subpar at best, i will not be replying to you any further unless you post physique

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >objectively a poor choice
              Getting massively increased iframes/distance and the ability to cancel the recovery of attacks quicker than a regular roll is not objectively worse
              >well uhhh jumping/crouching is situational!
              Yep
              >roll is shit
              Why, exactly?
              >…
              >I don’t like how it looks
              Ok, so if just changed the animation to a cool looking anime dodge you would be fine with it?
              >backstep
              Positioning
              >parry is gimmick shit
              What…? Like, huh? Gimmick shit? It’s not hard to learn how to parry, you don’t need to “no life hours and hours for each specific enemy.” Are you serious? Is it the risk of getting hit that makes you scared to try parrying? Just try it, it’s not hard to do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why, exactly?
                fricking have a nice day homosexual

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like to rock the magma whip with it for absolute Kino style.

    If only there was a liquid blood whip that looked cool.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The flame Knight greatsword that they mentioned in the dlc is looking to be fun as FRICK

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to play Shadow of the Erdtree so bad. I'm so bored of the base game.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hope goyslopware never makes soulshit again and sticks to armored core

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Light Greatsword is something I've wanted for a very long time, considering Fromsoft seems so hellbent on keeping straight swords the puny sizes they are.
    >Inbetween point for straight swords and greatswords
    >Moveset has some form of elegance and poise to it, you don't feel like you're just some dumb meathead swinging a stick around like with the standard greatswords
    >Long as/longer than katanas, which didn't need to be on average longer than SS for any reason
    >Stance L2
    All the other new weapon classes look really cool too, but these are definitely going to be my new favorite.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to say, my only minor complaint is I wish they used the same holding stance the SSs had in DS2, as well as the Loyce greatsword. Idk why Miyazaki&co are so hellbent on making your character hold weapons up into the air like they're chicken bones, the Demons Souls/DS2 stance was perfectly fine. But this is a nitpick

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe they made an entire weapon class out of the Silver Knight Straight Sword after not letting us have it at all for three games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Relanna's remembrance weapon is a pair of powerstancing light greatswords, which scale off int and faith and do magic and fire damage with a unique stance based AoW
      God I want to see it and use it so fricking bad bros, I'm dying to start Pontiff Sulyvahn maxxing

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to rush to mohg
    >remember that you have to go all the way to godskin duo to get all the smithing stone bell bearings
    FRICK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can get a +25 weapon well before even entering mountaintops of the giants

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but I wanna try out the new weapons in the DLC

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I knew about +10 for somberweapons but +25?
        Where do you get the ADSS and the 12 +8 stones?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Where do you get the ADSS
          nepheli quest gives you two, you only have to beat morgott

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ADSS
          Do Nepheli's quest, after killing Morgott go to Stormveil godrick arena, you'll finish her quest there, and she'll give you one
          If you left Gostoc alive, he'll sell you one for 20 000 runes
          as for the +8 stones, see picrel

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shit, wanted to erase the consecrated snowfield part too, if you remove it, that's 12 +8 stones before even entering mountaintops

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you need 16 stones

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shit, wanted to erase the consecrated snowfield part too, if you remove it, that's 12 +8 stones before even entering mountaintops

            you forgot 4 +8 stones in mohgwyn palace

            you need 16 stones

            no it's 12

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Where do you get the ADSS
            nepheli quest gives you two, you only have to beat morgott

            Lunar Estate/Moonlight Altar is after you beat Astel, right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but it's incredibly easy to get there quite frankly, just the rush the frick out of lake of rot

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fixed the image,
            That's 12 +8 stones before mountaintops

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but it's incredibly easy to get there quite frankly, just the rush the frick out of lake of rot

              2bh if you need to visist lyndell capital anyways it's easier to just kill morgott and head to the mountaintops than go throug all of nokron/lake of rot to get to the altar with ranni's questline.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                considering mountaintops is a garbage, overtuned ass area, i'd rather not search for anything in it at all except for the haligtree medallion shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just download the earlyshop mod unless youre consolecuck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is my dilemma rn honestly
      >currently near completion on my current save, pretty overleveled
      >want to tackle the DLC in NG+ for any potential main game impacts I could have already messed with, and more mausoleums + somber/regular ancient dragon smithing stones for duping new remembrances and upgrading new weapons
      >don't want to lose all my current bell bearings and have to try to invade for mohg again

      not sure how worth it it is and I wont until the game is out and we know if theres any main game changes (like something with malenia, melina, etc.) and the number of mausoleums and upgrade materials I guess

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't want to lose bell bearings
        I'm at least 70% sure they carry over into NG+ now. At least the smithing stone ones

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't want to lose bell bearings
        I'm at least 70% sure they carry over into NG+ now. At least the smithing stone ones

        I can confirm that the stone bearings carry through NG+.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it doesnt matter anyway you will just summon a mimic tear and use a bleed weapon homosexual

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >rolling
    lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it will be the first time I will mod a fromsoft game. Getting the new DLC weapons on custom starting classes would easily add another dozen potential runs for me.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying a shield-only run and it's kinda miserable in terms of damage. I'm debating compromising on the purity of it and allowing myself to use a misericorde specifically for critical hits on staggered enemies.
    I hope the dueling shield doesn't suck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >allowing myself to use a misericorde specifically for critical hits on staggered enemies
      use shield bash, or better yet, shield crash

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Giving previewers level 150 characters sounds crazy. And I thought my level 130 character is going to be overleveled for this shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      level isn't gonna matter too much for the DLC

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In dps

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon of the new faith spells requires 70 points

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, end game feels pretty balanced around 150, and that is about where this area is supposed to be at. The mountain of the giants can be painful at level 100 and thats about 3 areas earlier.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mohg is normally an endgame boss and even if you do zero farming you‘ll get more than enough runes to reach 150 at that point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unless you rush to Mohg you will be at 130-140 when you get to him anyway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I feel lot of people are going to rush Mohg with their new characters so they can go beat up base game bosses with all these new weapons.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's what I did.

          I can't beat Elden Beast

          Use spirit summons.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Use spirit summons.
            No.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The vast majority will just use the character they beat the game with

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even if you rush Mohg you're going to be strong enough to trivialise 90% of the games content anyway, they should have done it like DaS3 and have the access point about a third of the way through. Marika's bedchamber was the common sense location

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >trivialise 90% of the games content anyway,
            Trivialize the DLC?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did the previews say anything if stuff changes depending how far you go in the base game? I'm debating if I should enter Mountaintops now that I beat Morgott.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nothing at all will change bro
      is this your first souls dlc?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dark souls 3 dlc characters had different dialogue depending what you did in the base game. is this your first souls dlc bro?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh lore
          that's it? this changes jackshit bro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you got owned kek. Maybe go play old Souls shit again.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please let there be light greatswords which scale with strength
    Please

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did not see one cool new magic spell, is it all going to be FTH shit?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope there are some gravity spells too and they re gonna require more than 60 points

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd much rather every weapon category had just a single weapon but with an elaborate move-set and play style. Instead we have 30 straight swords that do the same thing.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just stopping in to remind you the Miquella is Griffith and that you need to kill him the first time you get the chance before he sacrifices you and your 7 companions.

    Never trust long haired blonde white boys.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't beat Elden Beast

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda bummed that you can't just run into this new DLC after some early game boss like with Bloodborne DLC. Could just run in there avoiding enemies and grabbing all those new weapons to use in base game before actually challenging DLC content.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they dont want you to curbstomp the dlc with the abysmal number differences in endgame

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Prelates armor(altered)
    >Gelmir knight helm
    >Bloody helice
    >Dex/Arc build
    Move over Godskin Noble, a new fatty's in town.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like to use the Mimic Tear Mask with the Altered Prelate armor, it makes my character look like a robot.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've yet to see actual new strength weapons being shown. Should I be concerned?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A throwable giant hammer has already been confirmed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The kung fu shit is definitely gonna have some strength options
      Ditto for big katanas

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a bearsona style so yes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bearsona
          What

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Clawbear moveset

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Neat

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have decided. My new character's weapon.

    The Ghostflame of Death's Poker guides all.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >erdtree sentinel armor
    >eclipse shield
    >ghiza's wheel
    >mimic tear +10
    I'm ready for the DLC bros

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >use chainsaw on malenia to get myself couple mil runes
    >buy 100s of all types of smithing stones and arrows
    >have around 200 arcs due to chainsaw invasions

    yeah, its dlc time

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like depending great runes and runearcs, but what's actually good great run to use?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I staminamaxed with Radahn's great rune and stunlocked Malenia for 80% of her fight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rodrick or morgott

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      radahn or any rune that gives you % based shit
      I wasted so much time on the +5 rune till I realized its dogshit at late game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have 530 hours now and honestly I completely forget this mechanic exists.
      I used godrick's great rune a few times in the early game and then kinda forgot reapplying it after dying and then slowly forgot about the entire mechanic.
      Malenia's sounded cool on paper but that's about it. I'd just go with Radahn's I guess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Godrick's for early game, switch to Morgott's once you get it. Radahn's might be worthwhile in lategame if you invest in Mind.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope there's more ghost flame shit in the DLC. I'd almost settle for a ruinous ghost flame sorcery just so I can frostbite meme harder with better weapons/ashes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have a ghostflame perfume weapon

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    please god make larval tears farmable/infinite in the DLC

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but with (Somber) Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones.
      There's too many cool weapons I want to max out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can get like 20 of them in a run you stupid homosexual, no one needs 20 resets

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no one needs 20 resets
        wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You get like 15 in a playthrough, how many fricking times do you need to respec if there are only 7-8 new weapon types?

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hope the DLC has a blood seal.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100% of assets are reused
    >No new gameplay mechanics, the same shit since 2009
    >Only 10 bosses
    >No Shadow Of The Colossus style bosses like people asked for since ER announcement
    >The size of the DLC is 1/8th of the base game, despite costing 2/3 of it
    >No improvements to the base game whatsoever
    >Characters from the base game don't participate in the DLC at all
    >No endings
    >No improvements to the PVP
    >Reuses bosses from the main game
    >No covenants
    >Alternative dimension AGAIN, instead of DLC actually happening in the game's world
    >That'll be 40$
    Is this the worst DLC of all time?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shazemtroons are trying to doom post Elden Ring
      >Again
      You homosexuals have a humiliation fetish.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Covenants were a crappy gimmick locking items behind it and then dead like moonsimps in dork bsouls

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shadow of the Colossus style bosses

      Unironically sounds like the worst idea of all time given Elden Ring's mechanics, unless they literally implement an entire new control scheme to allow you to cling onto giant monsters or something it sounds like Bed of Chaos 2.0 with you trying to platform your way around a monster's weakpoints while they try to swat you off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesnt sound bad if you can use torrent

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fighting on torrent sucks though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just for platforming

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what bosses can I get summoned for at level ~135 and reliably get the host some wins? I need rune arcs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i imagine mohg is even busier than normal since everyone needs to beat him for DLC access

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone tell me what build I should do as prep for the dlc

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going quality with a little bit of magic stats for weapon requirements and it's been really fun. There's only a small handful of weapons that this build can't or shouldn't use.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really wish intelligence had some more good low level buff or convenience spells like faith does

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          night maiden's mist and scholar's shield have their moments

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what's going to be the elite bs enemy that lot of people want to avoid in this DLC. Base game had Revenants and Crucible Knights.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flamegiants and the chink lion gonna be margit

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Starting to think I'm the only person on this board who ACTUALLY completed the game.

    >wretch
    >no levelling
    >fists only
    >no armour
    >only Talisman allowed is Shabriris Woe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you would not survive one nanosecond playing armored core last raven, stop trying to pose as le hardcore gamur

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not seeing

      >No healing
      >No dodging
      >No sprinting
      >No fast travel
      >No torrent

      You. Did. Not. Beat. The. Game.

      Try the game again you casual homosexual.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you used the shoulder buttons you didn't beat the game

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NNNNNOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THE MECHANICS AND ITEMS THE DEVS PUT INTO THE GAME TO BEAT IT!!!
    What causes this kind of autism?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I may be autistic but you didn't beat the game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the desire to be better than other people in something as trivial as soulshit video games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      False sense of elitism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, mimic tear is pretty corny

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you have a good enough build.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mimic Tear is nothing compared to Black Knife Tiche, which literally anime *psss nothing personnel kid* teleports behind bosses fricks them woth some destined death and then repeats thay cycle the whole fight because it's like impossible to hit and has moron high health

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Problem is that spirit ashes aren't balanced at all; they should take a fight from challenging to doable, but instead they take it from challenging to brain-dead.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >best weapon in the game
    >not wing of astel
    Noob

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did my first ever Arcane build in prep for the DLC to try something different and this thing is sooo absurdly BUSTED.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bleed fricks everything in the game it's insane

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only main bosses that don't bleed are radagon/eldbeast, godskin duo, and loretta

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They don't bleed? GSD and Loretta got fricking destroyed by my plus ten MSS and 60 ARC. Elden beast didn't bleed but the L2 still staggers him regularly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      plus its easier to farm sets and weapons. truly arcane is the blessed stat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >press L2 a bunch
      >everything within half a mile instantly dies
      >bosses insta stagger proc bleed reset proc bleed again

      It's literally EZ mode

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The majority of the bosses in the DLC will be immune to bleed, what now arcane boi?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My guy is a wretch I'll just respec.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bloodboon Ritual deals fire damage and its fire damage scales with Arcane. It'll do its massive damage and not proc bleeds. Just swap Lord of Blood's exultation for Alexander Shard.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they don’t know how busted gravity is

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    leak Black folk are such fricking smoothbrains, you are just ruining your own experience for absolutely no fricking reason besides being an impatient manchild

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suck my wiener

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you have no wiener, troony.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to create early dlc ready character
    >complete varre quest as early as possible
    >b***h slapped by the invasion in mogh palace
    I might be underestimating this area. I don't want to play NG+ to use dlc weapons in base game...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have a bow and twenty minutes?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does the cheese still work?

        Previews say lv120 is around where you should start the DLC

        I'm enjoying my new playthrough now, but I was trying to just park a new character for the dlc and rushed mogh. That was a wake up call lol, get 2 shotted by anything at mogh.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd say 40 vigor as the absolute minimum for the DLC

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Previews say lv120 is around where you should start the DLC

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does it affect the dlc difficulty if I go in it with my ng+2 character?
    Or should I start a new game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does it affect the dlc difficulty if I go in it with my ng+2 character?
      Yes
      >Or should I start a new game
      No need, if you kept leveling your character and upgraded your gear you can play through the DLC on NG+2 as well

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you can beat Radahn and Mohg in NG+2 you'll be fine since the DLC has its own separate power progression system.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So lvl 192 isnt too high for it?
        Will the power scale make sure its gona be a challenge

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Each item/each level of the items scales your damage and defense up. Damage goes up by 5% each time. This is likely to balance the DLC for all players.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh so you level items instead of the guy
            Gotcha

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fail a bunch of NPC quests if you just rush Radahn and Mohg
    Gee, thanks Fromsoft

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon you have two weeks

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is a heavy lance + greatshield poking build any fun? I haven't even touched faith yet so was going to try strength+faith and some incantations to go with it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      spears and lances are boring as hell in souls

      only ones that are any fun are the ones with unique movesets like the naginata and the swordspear

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        also the crucible knight one that spins like a drill but that shit's lategame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think the lance is really satisfying to use but it doesn't do amazing damage for how slow it is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use that mixed in with other weapons for guard counters
      Unless you're going to use some specific ash or weapon enchant I believe serpent hunter gain better AR.
      Using Lance with something like Bloodflame to proc bleed is pretty sweet. I destroyed malenia that way

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wanted to try that but unfortunately couldn't quite fit the weight on my build, so I used a Partisan and it was alright. You get the long shield pokes, the guard counters and they have lots of great options for AOWs.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just fricking love great stars. It's almost like my trusty bloodletter was still with me.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YARRR ME HEARTIES I BE USIN THE OL' RUSTY ANCHOR WITH THE SPEAR TALISMAN Y'SEE

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >godskins resist holy
    >maliketh resists holy
    >placidusax resists holy
    >fortissax resists holy
    >godfrey resists holy
    >malenia resists holy
    >fire giant resists holy
    >astel resists holy
    >morgott resists holy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and radagon
      and elden beast

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hope you found the red-hot whetblade, motherfricker.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its nice how you can bumrush to it right off the bat. Free damage for like ten minutes of traveling.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At a certain point it just ends up being From doing things out of spite. I'm just thankful fire damage scales with FTH as well and going for non-holy FTH spells that do damage is completely viable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      astel and placidusax have 40% res against all elements, fire giant malenia and godskins have only 20% more holy res than other elements

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      by the time you get to the point you're fighting these bosses back to back you have a dozen damage options if you're FTH

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "wtf I can't just use one thing for the entire game"

      bro, Faith gets:
      Holy damage from spells and infusions
      Fire damage from spells and infusions
      Regular damage from Bestial spells
      Access to every single status effect besides Cold
      Access to Scarlet Rot which is objectively the strongest status effect vs bosses, disregarding bleed build cheese

      Maybe don't be a stupid homosexual and think that you can beat the entire game with the same exact setup

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do you guys think of paladin builds (str+faith)
    i played int on my only playthrough, and i just got to fire giant with a pure strength build but i want to mix it up a bit, maybe even just switch to a new strength weapon from greatsword

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's generally my go-to setup in these games. or something closer to a quality build with varying levels of faith included.
      Incantations were really fun and varied in my faith playthrough. You're not just throwing lightning spears all the time, there's a lot of different weird sources of power.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no str build should go without the few points of faith to use beast incantations and a few other low requirement spells like catch flame

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >new USG
    >flamberge sized colossal sword
    >godslayer greatsword light attacks
    >zweihander heavy attack
    >infuseable
    WE'RE SO BACK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actual shame the Godslayer will loose one of its pros

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >character from first playthrough apparently didn't start NG+ like I thought he did
    Huh, guess I don't have to replay the game to prepare

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should I go for hand-to-hand combat or beast mode in the dlc? Devil cosplay with flame arts.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >50-100 hours of content
    Are DLCs eligible for GOTY?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      delusional

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dlc is only the size of limgrave, it's 15 hours at most

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not a fan of the greatspear moveset. Glad From is kicking it up a notch with DLC weapons.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >siluria's tree
    >marika's hammer
    oh yeah, it's strength/faith time

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >using spears in a souls game

    Probably the gaygiest thing you could do besides maining dex weapons.

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do not care, bone fist my beloved has returned
    I will be keeping an extra save that is just pre-Godfrey so that I can Ultimate Violence vs. Ultimate Martial Arts fight him as I please

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hate the fire giant. it's just not a fun fight as melee

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to do int run
    >only worthwhile weapons are moonveil and moonlight greatsword
    Time for str build again I guess

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LeL, me too. Want to do mixed melee/spell dex/int and I can't make it feels good. Now I'm playing janky ass cold dual wield shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Clayman's harpoon is good

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wing of astel, thank me later.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      INT has some of the best ashes in the game, and you can get a good chunk of them early.
      Carian Phalanx's little blades deal as much stagger as a colossal R2, Carian Grandeur and Greatsword deals a ton of damage, knock enemies down even when uncharged and if used with Greatswords also has a ton of hyperarmor.
      Glintstone peeble ash is cheap and spammable and deals good damage from a safe range.
      Ice Spear and Chilling Mist are both strong.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is quality even an affinity option if it‘s always the worst one?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because FROM still has issues on how to balance their games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it becomes the best one when you're very high level, and some somber weapons are locked with quality scaling.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a poorgay, do you think ER + dlc is worth buying at full price?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can always pirate it
      But you'll miss out on the online stuff (like seeing other player phantoms playing), bloodstains and messages which always makes these games feel a lot more alive and less lonely

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Be my boyfriend and I'll gift you the game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      100% worth it
      https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-edition
      fanatical has base game and DLC for $70 muttbux

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a lot of people's favorite game or favorite game by From at least
      not mine on either, but it's still a good game that you should play

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoyed it but if you can't afford it just pirate it and buy it later when its on sale.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its never gone on sale once since its release, and I doubt it will

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it has, it was 40% off last winter sale and the summer ones this month.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I checked and I didnt see it on sale

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well you didn't look hard enough.

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are some good STR/FTH weapons?

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Feeling pretty vindicated that I killed Mohg with a level 50 last month in preparation for the DLC. If I had to clear Altas or something as well I'd be pretty pissed since I want to run through the game with DLC weapons

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1) From likes to revisit old ideas with a new twist and 2) all these demigods have faults/sins.
    Miquella will be Saint Astraea v2.

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love arcane builds so much bros.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't use your gear or stats from the main campaign in the DLC, its a non-canon "dreamworld"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick off moron

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >split damage
    Literally useless

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Godwyn Knight drops twinaxes

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