dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun. divinity doesn't count

dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
divinity doesn't count

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
    Autists will defend it, but that's the truth.
    DND combat was designed for slow-paced encounters which take up to dozens of minutes to hours to resolve during a real tabletop session.
    The mechanics simply do not work properly in a real-time combat of CRPGs because the player is going from a combat encounters to more combat encounters in span of dozens of seconds to a minutes.

    This can be observed with abilities/spells that reset on daily basis, which make (more) sense for tabletop, or the need to reapply many buffs before every single encounter.

    At the end of the day, it somehow works, but it clearly isn't the ideal design which has many drawbacks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't need to be fun for everyone. But it has it's fans that want it. Also it frankly needs to exist.
      That's the fallacy of "modern" games and why they started sucking. They try to appeal to a wider, or rather, the widest audience. Forgoing niches in favour or trying to get as much morons to buy the game as possible.
      In the past a game could and frequently was, literally, unironically, "Not for me".
      But now that phrase has become worthless paraphrasing for "Internally I seethe with disdain, but I don't wanna hurt the devs feelings".
      So now, we have no real cultural replacement for that phrase and too many people used to being treated like dumbasses. So they complain when the target audience isn't dumbasses.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Having combat system which forces you to perpetually reapply +10 buffs before nearly every fight or camp several times in a span of one gaming session is just busywork.
        There's nothing intrinsically fun about either of these activities and other things that make the combat a slog. They are not what makes the game or combat fun.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rest less
          Game encourages you to beat dungeons with 1 swoop and it makes fight much more memorable
          Plus maybe you'll start using 357 healing potions that you have stacked in your inventory
          Will also bring down some carrying weight

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >camp several times in a span of one gaming session
          who the frick camps several times in one session? if you're unfamiliar with the game you can just play on the easier difficulties. there are what, 8 settings? plus you can customize it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >his gaming sessions last ~1-2h
            ngmi

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              if he's complaining about having to camp more than once in a 5-8 hour session he's moronic

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >military prep, logistic prep and positioning is busywork
          Combat ain't all glitz and glam. Winning is assured mainly by how well you execute it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            True, but real combat prep isn't being done over and over again in spans of a few minutes dozens and hundred times over.
            If at the end of the day most people will be buffing themselves for most encounters and there's little stopping you from doing so, what is even the point of making them run out so quickly?
            It only introduces busywork with no payoff.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can apply the same logic to games like
          >Animal crossing
          >Stardew valley
          >Fortnite
          >Every JRPG ever made
          >The entire dating sim genre
          And more. Every game has qualities *somebody* doesn't like. That doesn't mean that it is bad, or wrong, it means that you don't like it.

          Go read Green Eggs and Ham and remember that the moral of the story is that you should try new things, not that you need to like them

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's fair, but only if you tell me that you genuinely find enjoyment in using usually identical set of buff spell before most encounters.
            If you do, good for you, but I don't believe that's one of the things that makes the game engaging or exciting. There are things that are just bullshit and nobody sane should or would enjoy them.
            I can see some people enjoying having to control every single individual in a unit in a Total War game and there being no way to select a whole unit at once, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is why you dont play pathfinder in real time

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >playing Pathfinder in turn-based mode
        Enjoy wasting 10-30 per fight in a game with hundreds of encounters.
        See you in a year or two.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >See you in a year or two.
          So just like any tabletop campaign?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can't play this fricking game in turn mode.
        Took me way too many hours to begin with to finish it, turn base would multiply the time to 4.
        The one fight where you're FORCED into turn based was like pulling a tooth.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          With hyper speed tb mode isn't that bad
          Some fights unironically can go even faster

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are supposed to play all garbage mob battles in real time and difficult battles in real time.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The one fight where you're FORCED into turn based was like pulling a tooth.
          So fricking much this.
          I don't recall getting that irritated with a game since forever.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I play 100% TB, and yes, my playtime is above 700h (right now Act 5 in my second playthrough) and I wouldn't have it any other way. Why would I want to spend less time with things I enjoy? I have already planned the next one. I'll just play something else like 100%ing ER for the 4th time before coming back to it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't play this fricking game in turn mode.
          You can and I did, zoomer
          Take your ADHD medication

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is why you dont play pathfinder in real time

          >dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
          Autists will defend it, but that's the truth.
          DND combat was designed for slow-paced encounters which take up to dozens of minutes to hours to resolve during a real tabletop session.
          The mechanics simply do not work properly in a real-time combat of CRPGs because the player is going from a combat encounters to more combat encounters in span of dozens of seconds to a minutes.

          This can be observed with abilities/spells that reset on daily basis, which make (more) sense for tabletop, or the need to reapply many buffs before every single encounter.

          At the end of the day, it somehow works, but it clearly isn't the ideal design which has many drawbacks.

          Turn based is borderline unplayable because of HOW Owlcat implemented it. There's a 4 second delay when you first start a combat encounter, and then a 1-2 second delay, everytime the system moves to the next character's turn.
          You can speed this up by mashing the spacebar, but the battle will still move at a fricking snail's pace.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >skill issues

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only people who like shit like pathfinder are autistic people obsessed with minmaxing and optimizing builds because the game just plays itself the vast majority of the time
    divinity os 1, 2 and bg3 are actually fun to play

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I too love spending 20 minutes fighting 3 wolves fellow zoomer.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the least zoomer thing, what a bizarre post.

        https://i.imgur.com/deT8Fi7.jpg

        dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
        divinity doesn't count

        Divinity doesn't have Dnd combat. Also Dnd combat is bad period, video game or ttrpg.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    *Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the GD path for roleplaying as an evil butthole redeeming themself? Are there really no good narrative beats along those lines?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Demon into Legend is that. GD is just shit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >GD
        >literal embodiments of goodness who help others, give aid, provide guidance
        >meant to be RPed as an evil butthole redeeming themself
        ?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's Legend not GD

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      *hits pipe*

      Is having sons the ultimate cuckoldry?

      I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a son. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a boy for at least 18 years solely so he can go and get ravaged by some redeemed succubus. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little boy - reading him prayers to Deskari at bedtime, making him do sarkorian rituals, making sure he drinks plenty of mythic juice, teaching magic to him, summoning balors with him. All of it has one simple result: his body is more enjoyable for the Succubus that will eventually frick him.

      Raised the perfect boy? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random demon who had nothing to do with the way he grew up, who marries him. She gets to frick his wiener every night. She gets the benefits of his kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised him.

      As a woman who has a son, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a boy for another woman to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >gets a sweet daughter-in-law with grandkids
        >ascends to godhood together with her son and his family
        Logic dictates she made the right choice.
        And let's be real, they are gods. They will get around to some proper incest shenanigans at some point down the road. They are gods ffs.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        post the voiced Version you buffoon
        https://voca.ro/1kkrfDcpFAYO

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >gets a sweet daughter-in-law with grandkids
        >ascends to godhood together with her son and his family
        Logic dictates she made the right choice.
        And let's be real, they are gods. They will get around to some proper incest shenanigans at some point down the road. They are gods ffs.

        You're not her child, you have her child's soul inside of you. Don't fall for the delusion.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can i still can her mommy at least

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Darn, cant have shit in the Abyss.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          but i want to give my character a mom and she is the closest thing to it 🙁

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But Mommy Areelu, if Owlkeks had given me the chance, I would have chosen to romance you 10/10 times every playthrough and I'm not joking!

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pathfinder 3.5 ruleset isn't fun, owlcat just copy pasted the ruleset into the game but it doesn't always work properly in vidya.

    Play BG3 instead 5th edition is pretty fun.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Play BG3
      how's that """"early access"""" going? the game gonna be out in 2025?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        i see that you are attempting to mock me, however the game is coming out in august and now you feel really silly

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It comes out on 31st August anon.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong, 3 days earlier for ea.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      DnD 5e goes too far in the opposite direction of pf 3.5. Where 3.5 has huge amounts of choices and most of them are just wrong, 5e just doesn't really give you any choice.

      Developers should stop using tabletop systems in video games. Video games are not tabletop games and are not constrained by the same limitations that tabletop games are.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5th edition is pretty fun.
      No its cringe and it was made by hyper offended homosexuals with the sole purpose of making it fun for the lowest common denominator in IQ
      That means you anon.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        so Tieflings, half-elf and Assimars are getting removed? based

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          a lot of things is getting removed bro

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >half-orcs have been removed

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they're whitewashing fricking MINDFLAYERS

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              AND BEHOLDERS

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        In a game with distinct species of sentient beings, wouldn't the fact that pairings of different species get called "half-x" be inherently non-racist when pairings of different races of humans are not, for example, "half-blacks"?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >race-mixing is bad
        wtf I love wotc now!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5th edition is pretty fun

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >5th edition is pretty fun.
        No its cringe and it was made by hyper offended homosexuals with the sole purpose of making it fun for the lowest common denominator in IQ
        That means you anon.

        It's more fun than pathfinder buff simulator.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    why the frick do giant cats hit so fricking hard and many times, goddamn

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What roguelikes have the most in depth magic?
    I want another game with the magic of dominions or pathfidner wrath of the righteous.
    Not Rift Wizard though, I didn't like that one it was too shallow and just dial-a-spell-modiifier vs enemies with 50 darkrest 50 elecres etc etc

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrath of the righteous has a roguelike dungeon dlc. Kingmaker does as well.

      Think that new Pathfinder arpg game they announced the other week is also a roguelike.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wrath of the righteous has a roguelike dungeon dlc
        Oh huh, which DLC is that? Is it any fun? I thought all the WOTR dlcs got panned as really fkn bad

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This one
          https://pathfinderwrathoftherighteous.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Treasure+of+The+Midnight+Isles

          Haven't played it yet.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          People hated Inevitable Excess, I didn't think it was that bad but its plot was obviously an excuse to have a DLC where you could spend the whole time at level 20 and ML 10, and didn't have much weight. Some of the combat is kind of aids too, having any random enemy attack able to confuse your party members was frustrating.

          Through the Ashes is mixed, if you wanted to do more low level campaigns you'll like it. It's probably more like a regular tabletop campaign than most D&D games, you're supposed to consider avoiding combat and using the environment to your advantage.

          Treasure of the Midnight Isles is also mixed but mostly positive, the main complaint is that it can get old. It's not randomly generating maps like Diablo, it just has a bunch of versions of a couple map themes and you have to do a lot of them to get to the end so it can start to drag. On the other hand if you hated the campaign companions you can play this standalone with a party of mercs, so no talking and all custom builds. That's the part I like, since you reset a few times you can give a merc a class archetype you thought looked fun but might be bad and if it turns out to be bad you're only stuck with it until you can afford a 6th merc.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        man i'd love to play random dungeons in pathfinder all, day if they're good. something that annoys me with these kinds of games is that you always reach max level just before the game ends so you dont have much time to enjoy your characters at their full power.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are basically full power by level 16/17

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's not enough, i need more power

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >divinity
    >dnd combat

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's based on DnD 5e.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        first of all
        what divinity, there are multiple games across several genres
        I assume you didn't know that though and meant dos 1/2
        in which case
        Black person what?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know that is what he mean gaygort

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no I really fricking don't

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    no need to add "in crpgs"

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm still really curious to try kingmaker, something about a horribly balanced cave

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a horribly balanced cave
      The swarm filter.

      A NPCs literally tells you to use alchemist fire on swarms and even gives you some. People ignore it and get filtered when they do the quest.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please help Daeran keeps trying to frick me and I dont know how to tell him to stop without him getting mad at me.
    I just want to frick the succupusy pls Daeran stop giving me gifts.
    Seriouly is there a way to let him off the hook without him getting pissed? I tried at the 'not-date' and it didnt work

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    rtwp games are boring, you just autoattack 90% of the time

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk man
      I'm sieging drezen now and and theres like a couple fights that I'm willing to put on auto
      Theres always some fricker that I need to either focus down or disable with the slumber or a spell
      And fricking fireballs going down at random

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie D:OS sucked balls in comparison
    Don't know about second one but first one was shit

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Combat in tabletop RPGs were always just a RNG stat check

    This is why they're terrible for video games that aren't roguelikes/sims because it doesn't result in a player rerolling a character and joining the group again, it results in a loaded save until they brute force their way through the BS RNG until they reach a point where they trivialize all encounters with maxed AC and spell effects

    Also as someone who has run tabletop RPG clubs they always teach players bad ideas for actual tabletop roleplaying and has resulted in 20 years of bad design ruining actual D&D as they're trying to create video games on paper instead of roleplaying systems.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, contrary to everyone else's opinion. I like it just fine. I enjoy learning new systems and figuring stuff out. im sure lots of people will just slam easy mode (then complain) or look up step by step guides (then complain) but thats not for me. I could probably handle playing one more"pathfinder" type game but would be just fine with a new system to learn. Hyped for rouge trader even though I prefer fantasy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      fak, wrong image

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does Divinity not count? It had excellent combat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      divinity's combat feels like japanese tactical rpg combat, not dnd

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      divinity's combat feels like japanese tactical rpg combat, not dnd

      Divinity's combat was shit, SRPGs mog it entirely.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Reach library after the demon attack
    >crusader allies are burnt to death
    >it is mentioned online that they could be saved if I had went there before the demon attack
    >Neither the journal nor NPCs insist on doing it before the attack
    WTF is this quest design? Why are timer based / trigger based quests not highlighted? Are there many such missable content in this game?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      To get the secret best ending you must do a sequence of actions that cannot be fixed, including using the crossbow in the very first choice you make and, at the end, invading the final zone in the game at a very specific time of the year, I believe between the 16th and 25th of the 4th month.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit. How did people even figure that stuff out? Data mining?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I assume so
          Theres clues and you can follow them however for some of them to even show up you need to do very specific things
          Even with the guide I managed to miss one clue that shows up in a secret room in one of the dungeons but only AFTER you defeat the boss

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much, the game has a mod called Toybox.
          You basically have to figure some shit out, forced to do some crusade research, get a book of bullshit, find the other part of book of bullshit, get the purple crystal knife, don't give away the purple crystal knife, be nice to Suture, save him from slaves... some other shit to gain Areelu's approval, then figure out that midnight bolts on demon lords make them bleed crystals that can be used for the final ending.
          Like there's a lot to it that is all stupid and senseless.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's hinted at ingame, you're given the date from a late choice, it's not something you're expected to figure out your first time playing though, he's wrong about shooting Deskari though, it helps but it's not needed

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yep, i remember back in the beta everyone datamined on how to the secret ending

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you play as angel, in act 3 during puluras fall the stargazer tells you, but you probably forget that and it's one of those occasions where an actual journal would be required.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's why you do all the side activities before doing major story points, anon.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >do all the side activities before doing major story points, anon.
        I didn't do anything. I left the library for the last and rested in the inn and the attack happened. There wasn't even a specific indication that an attack was prominent.

        If you save crusaders they join you in the attack and will cast on you haste spell that will last for like an hour

        Damn. That would have been OP

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you save crusaders they join you in the attack and will cast on you haste spell that will last for like an hour

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >do all the side activities before doing major story points, anon.
        I didn't do anything. I left the library for the last and rested in the inn and the attack happened. There wasn't even a specific indication that an attack was prominent.

        [...]
        Damn. That would have been OP

        If you save them you also get access to a short side quest line in chapter 3

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is it worth it to redo act 1 just for this?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You get the quest anyways, I know I didn't save them on my first try and got it, it's nothing special

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok thanks. I would have wasted another 8 hours if I had loaded back to the point where I could save them. I'll just do it in my next playthrough instead

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you want, I think it's possible to find the flags for the quest and fix it in your save so that the game considers them saved.
                I had to do such flag fixing during my first playthrough when some things were still bugged.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think it's possible to find the flags for the quest and fix it in your save so that the game considers them saved.
                How ? Is there a save editor?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                mythic path

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think it's possible to find the flags for the quest and fix it in your save so that the game considers them saved.
                How ? Is there a save editor?

                oops sorry i meant Toybox

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Toybox
                Yes. I used it to fix flags and other stuff in the past. It's definitely doable, but you'd have to spend some time searching for the right flag.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      if a quest says "hurry" or something time related, they're not joking

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I could swear that they didn't mention anything like that in the journal for that library quest. Also the demon attack quest entry was really vague like "Be prepared, Demons could attack anytime". There is literally no connection between these 2 quests and yet if you visit the library after the attack you get cucked.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, Anevia literally pulls you to the side before you start your adventure and says "Hurry. We must move before the demons make their move." If you get the tavern assault, then that means you fricked up.
      Tavern Assault = failed states for all of the timed quests of Act 1

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But don't the demons in gray garrison weaken if you successfully kill the demon attackers

        What are the triggers for the Tavern Defense anyways? Is it literal time or is it after doing certain quest or areas?

        It's 3 rests in defenders heart.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Tavern assault = fail state
        Tavern assault is one of the better and challenging missions of the entire game. Why would you intentionally miss it?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You get more exp and better rewards if you skip it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >better rewards
            Debatable. The assault gives you some money and time to hunt for more money to buy unique weapons and useful items/rings like dark veil, icy protector ring etc.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    wrath of the righteous is close to being fun, but the way scaling and balance works in it is just devolves into rocket tag.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pathfinder games in particular are annoying gameplay wise. Much as I enjoyed both for their stories and RPG value the combat is just "stack buffs to make huge numbers on the left side so it is > than the right side".

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really
      I'm playing a fighter tank (because I don't trust owlcat to make a proper tank ever) and even without buffs almost all enemies need to roll 20 to hit
      Sure some bosses or particular areas needs some prep work but I can go without a rest pretty much an entire location, unless it's a 2 parter.
      And some buffs last so long that you need to cast them once and never worry about them again

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not really
        >and even without buffs almost all enemies need to roll 20 to hit
        stop playing on normal.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's balanced because enemies roll nat 20s 33% of the time anyways

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's balanced because enemies roll nat 20s 33% of the time
            Not with protective luck.
            And I promise you, your tank will NOT be tanking shit on the higher difficulties without arcane buffs.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pillars of Eternity did a great job of building mechanics that work super smoothly in vidya form while still maintaining that classic crpg feel. Although the fact that there are no dump stats is kinda annoying.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      agreed, best rtwp mechanics
      shame all the balancing makes game a bit dull at times

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's still plenty of broken builds you can do, they just take work to get them to come online rather than just breaking the game at level 4.
        For example, if you stack everything, it's possible to boost your Power Level for Fire spells to a point where you're casting as if you were a level 36 Wizard. Your Fireball turns into a nuclear strike.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      there are absolutely dump stats because each save (fort, reflext, will) is influenced by more than one stat. you can dump intellect and still have a good will save if you pump resolve.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
    In other news, sky is blue and water is wet

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone played Wasteland 3? Is it any good? Physical version is ridiculously cheap in my local store right now.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I heard from a friend that it was good
      I didn't bothered because 2nd one kinda sucked

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        same. the level scaling when you get to Hollywood is insane. normal leather jacket wearing zealots have more health than even robots. and i got soft-locked by the game because the church turned Hostile against me for some reason.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >went through Hell and back to barely claw my way out
    >surrounded on all fronts
    >incompetent Queen lost my Doomstack
    >all hope is lost
    >"Mythic Power" starts playing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      based, but is kinda annoying where only the main character and 4-5 characters actually do anything, the rest incompetents like the queen or just straight up useless. In the end is not a surprise KC leave, tired of everyone bullshit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >KC leave
        i didn't leave nowhere. I stayed in drezen and told nerosyan to go frick themselves. Drezen is now the capital of Kingdom of Commander

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post the Sosiel pasta.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sosiel Vaenic?

      That homie has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I buckbroke him raw in a Alushinyrra Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, blackest, wettest buck bussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to the Abyss, the most heavenly high is having that wonderboy gurgle my nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Sosiel screaming in the sheets with dick too ridiculous to ignore. That homie frotted my wiener until I busted in his mouth, I had to give him air. That homie Sosiel and I been fricking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Sosiel, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his ass, put him on his knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass crackas either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Red skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.

      That homie Sosiel Vaenic stole my heart and drank my seed.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does lich really not get a class specific revive dead.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for AI generated mercenaries with their own backgrounds and quests in pathfinder games in 5 years.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mutation warrior
    >Demonslayer
    >Knife Master
    >Aldori Defender/Swordlord
    Which one is the most fun Ganker?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      knife master, my hero Nok-Nok taught me how good this class was.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      rangers are more fun than fighters.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Out of those I'd go Demonslayer or Knife Master (leaning more towards demonslayer) but up to you. Mutt Warrior is decent but it's just a warrior with alchemist potions to buff you before a fight.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a random citizen in the tavern while KC and Arue are sharing the dream where she solves Desna's riddle. You're just sitting there minding your own business, occasionally glancing over at your hero as he snoozes next to a succubus. Suddenly you're startled by the most erotic moan you'll ever hear in your life and turn your head to find her straddling him. You've got no idea what's going on, maybe you've seen Arueshalae once or twice and heard that she's a kind person but as far as you're aware she's still a soul-sucking fiend that has finally betrayed you all. Then the Commander stands up, gives you a wink and princess carries her out of the tavern all the way to the keep. What a fricking legend.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >princess carries all the way to the castle.
      i kneel Knight-commander-sama.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >princess carries her out of the tavern all the way to the keep.
      Don't succubuses have level draining touch in D&D and so can't have skin contact with them?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >succubuses
        I think the plural is succubi but anyway they don't exist.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Normally, yes. But when you complete Arueshalae's story Desna cleanses her of the Abyss so that she can touch people.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        not Arueshalae after her final quest is complete, she becomes a Azata

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          An azata with bat wings and not butterfly wings?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            She has a line about specifically wanting to keep them because she think's they're cute.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              yes. Arue specifically asked the Desna to keep her Lovely, irresistible, beautiful wings intact.

              Ok but then why isn't she in elysium or even with the commander in her ending slide?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                She likes the material plane and her elysium is the commander
                Nice subtle ending baiting

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A dev post on reddit basically summed it up as there being too many choices so they had to make the end slides more generic for everyone and that particular dev was unhappy with how Aru's good end was so non-comittal.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                because Owlkeks refused to fix the endings. also as this anon said

                She likes the material plane and her elysium is the commander
                Nice subtle ending baiting

                commander is her Elysium, her freedom and Happiness

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh, that was good, anon, well done. I almost fell for it

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Achievement unlocked : Master baiter

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                nice one dude, but i ain't falling for it. here is your (you)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i see through your Fey tricks you oglin, you can't fool me!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ohnonono amazingly casual build up till this point.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                moron. you are suppose to not talk about the ending immediately, you got to bait the aruegays into a false sense of security then bring up the ending.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why isn't she in elysium
                Ignoring your obvious bait, why would she be? Outsiders aren't forced in their respective realms, that's exactly what the Hand of the Inheritor does in all his non-angel endings

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Baiting arue gays with the cuck ending slide is my favorite pastime in pathfinder threads.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Baiting with this thing that very rarely happens and when it does it barely gets any replies is my favorite thing in these threads
                Weird.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he said as he replied to said bait
                Weird.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You see my bait was that I do X but actually I don't
                Masterful.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes. Arue specifically asked the Desna to keep her Lovely, irresistible, beautiful wings intact.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >princess carries all the way to the castle.
      i kneel Knight-commander-sama.

      or you know, he can just fly her to the meeting hall and give Regill a massive Heart attack. gotta let even that manlet know you are about to frick her brains out

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TOTAL Black person DEATH
    >If enemy has less than 201hp, KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY
    >Random patrolling enemy demon
    >900hp
    k

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Power word kill is designed to immediately kill enemies that have really high resistances and AC. You know, the kinda shit you might be periodically fighting around level 16 and you're otherwise just chipping their health away. With PWK you and the enemy knows that as soon as it falls low enough, it's fricking dead. Combat no longer wears on with the baiting game, it's a panicked rush for your target to not drop low enough to get headshot by a single spell

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        if i got an enemy to 200, then i don't need pwk, i'll drop him in 1 round anyway. It's a worthless spell

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the tabletop game this was based off, you probably didn't have so much overpowered shit everywhere boosting your stats so much. So no you absolutely wouldn't be dropping some enemies in one round, you can blame the game for being stats bloated shitfest for destroying what could otherwise have been a powerful spell. Things like a succubus just hovering above you while she shoots you isn't represented in the game despite them having wings and the ability to fly. Demons casting invisibility to escape combat or using protection spells or fear to cause you to run away, none of this is represented. That's when PWK comes in to play, you get a bad guy in to a position where he starts dumping all his abilities to flee and suddenly you utter a word of power that causes his brain to explode.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, don't defend Power Word Kill. It's LITERALLY a shittier version of Phantasmal Killer and Weird

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          How do I get phantasmal killer to work well on Nenio? I think I went wrong somewhere and want to respec her

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It will never "work" on Nenio because she already has Spell Focus: Illusion. If you want an Illusion build to work, then you need to take Expanded Arsenal: Illusion and Spell Focus in every class EXCEPT for Illusion. Because if you take Spell Focus: Illusion, then the Expanded Arsenal exploit (how people get 50-80 DC on their spells) won't work.
            Thus only a mercenary or player character caster can make a good Illusion caster.
            For Nenio, you actually want to make her an enchanter. As a Kitsune, she already gets a bonus to enchantment spells, and she can pick up Expanded Arsenal: Illusion.
            Here's an unfair Nenio caster build that can CC every enemy in the game
            https://pastebin.com/vcSneXUu
            You're probably wondering why the guide recommends Best Jokes, right? That's a level 2 spell that's single target, so it should be useless right? No, with best jokes and your high DC, it'll take out whole rooms of enemies.
            Your big spells will be: Hideous Laughter, Greater Command, Overwhelming Grief, Hold Monster, Hold Person Mass etc.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Serves me right for following recommendation on her I suppose

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >t'll take out whole rooms of enemies.
              yeah i remember trying that out in Darkwater when i was playing as a azata with Favorable magic+best jokes, i somehow stunlocked the entire map and aggro several out of bounds cyber-demons. fun

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I really not meant to be able to rest here
    This looks like a rest area

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno if this is the right thread but are there any games like this that are actually fun? I verifiably enjoy top down turn based crpg combat, underrail and the og fallouts are some of my favorite games and I really enjoy the combat in those, but whenever I've tried one of the DnD/pathfinder/other system games I just burn out and don't enjoy them at all.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      fallout 2 and 1

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cast grease
    >hehe them idiot npcs keep slipping and lose the battle
    >got to cross the room for the next area
    >PARTY MEMBERS KEEP SLIPPING
    HOW THE FRICK do I get rid of area effects after the battle?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have a dismiss spell ability

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give me a guide for morons on how to make a magic casting character that can actually kill stuff.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      just type "wotr caster build" in a search-engine of your choice

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's Azata sorcerer(merged) with Zappy magic, Favorable magic with one extra bloodline for huge damage with Fireballs & hellfire rays and phantasmal killer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pick wizard or sorcerer, dex at least 14, probably 16.
      >Human or Elf are good choices, but anything that does not hurt casting stat and dex works well
      >Pick snowball at lv 1, scorching ray at 2, hellfire ray at 6, and whatever you like in-between, probably some buffs, cc and otehr damage spells
      >Pick point blank shot, precise shot as feats
      >Pick spell pen, greater spell pen
      >pick bolster, empower, maximize and quicken metamagic feats, possibly heighten
      >pick ascendant element fire mythic ability and muthic penetration mythic feat
      >Fill spellbook with ray spells described above at all levels using said metamagic
      >use metamagic wands too
      >equipment that raises caster levcel, adds dice in your spell damage etc is good

      This covers the basic.
      Any mythic will work decently (even trickster has a build that works, and it's the worst for arcane casters), but Azata and Demon are the one with immediate results.

      There are more things you can try to do (dip into crossblooded socerer, dip into elemental wizard to convert to a different element , like lightning so you can also use chain lightning well, etc).

      Then you pick other good mythic feats and abilities and standard feats, like improved initiative, abundant casting, last stand etc

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>Pick snowball at lv 1,
        lolno. Snowball is shit and you don't have enough spell slots to spam it. Take grease instead, so that you can CC 5-10 enemies at a time with it.
        > scorching ray at 2
        Again, he should take glitterdust first, so that he can blind enemies, stripping them of their dexterity bonus to AC, and giving your melee members concealment versus them

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can pick more than 1 spell early on, you know. by the time you hit the maze, you are lv 2.
          Snowball ignores Spell resistance, targets touch ac and few enemies resist it. Good chocie alongside grease.
          And scorching ray is also an easy damage choice against anything that is not Babau.

          Any damage caster picks decent buffs and basic CCs, I am not going through every fricking spell choice each level.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You can pick more than 1 spell early on
            I know, and Snowball is objectively a waste of a spell slot. The damage is way too low for the cost.
            >And scorching ray is also an easy damage choice against
            Yeah, Scorching Ray is decent. But I'd put a higher priority on Glitterdust spam until you have more spell slots

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Early on touch AC damage that ignores SR is not useless, especially in harder difficulties. And it outscales Magic missile for a while

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The moron-proof build is a kineticist with fire-fire. Just take the elemental rays that don't have any physical damage so they are touch attacks. Then add whatever kineticist infusions you want, it's all self-contained in kineticist so you don't need to worry about getting the right metamagic feats.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the hell do you know what can be dispelled? The enemy stat sheet has what LOOKS like character abilities like spellstrike alongside buffs like barkskin.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      a) You roughly know what counst as buff and ability from the way you interact with teh system and buff characters
      b)You throw a greater dispell and strip what you can., its not like you can pick
      Just remember that 'permanent' refers to the buffs not running out f time for enemies.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and strip what you can
        usually it's nothing for me 🙂

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That’s why I knocked it down to casual and started to actually enjoy myself.

    The writing still sucks tho. “Chaotic” options are just LOL SO RANDUM and the voice actors feel like they were hired off tumblr

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    May lord Asmodeus strike me with his unholy mace where I stand if Devil doesn't get a rework in the next 6 months!

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes it has

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Peak D&D to Vidya mechanics. I fricking love ToEE.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    which companion has the biggest wiener. Is it Daeran or Regill?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arueshalae

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Arueshalae

        alright, which MALE companion has the biggest wiener, Arue doesn't count.

        Stop thinking about wieners anon
        It's pretty gay

        but i am gay anon.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ulbrig>Lann>Daeran>Woljif>Greybor(his is very thicc)>Regill (he's a gnome, no way he has a large dick)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop thinking about wieners anon
      It's pretty gay

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arueshalae

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ember
        What weapon do you guys even give her? Her burnt flesh trait or whatever gives her -4 penalty to using weapons so she cant hit shit. Does one solely use her by spamming her hexes and spells, and equip no weapon on her?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You give her one of the staves that grant her +4 to spell pen or whatever and spam hexes until you want her to actually cast, yes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            a staff that improves her spellcasting. she should not be auto-attacking. if you're not suing spells you should be using hexes

            Yes. Trust me anon, once you unlock a few hexes and cackle you'll be too busy juggling them and casting her fire spells to even think about her doing anything else.
            Grab a staff that buffs spells and spam.

            Ok thanks guys and

            > Does one solely use her by spamming her hexes and spells, and equip no weapon on her?
            yes anon. she is spell caster, she is suppose to cast spells not swing a 2H sword. give her the warmage staff you get in Ivory sanctum and Red salamander ring+ring of Pyromania.

            I had a weird idea of a build using daeran as a fire caster instead but I guess ember would obviously be the better choice.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Daeran
              >as a pyromancer
              You're wrong. You're fricking really wrong. But I gotta admire that outside the box thinking. Shine on you crazy god damned diamond.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Technically, with the items that give free spells to spontaneous casters and loremaster, you could make Daeran any damage caster you want, but feasibly, you go for fire or lightning since you get the items at chapter 3.
                I once made him into an ice caster (elemental wizard dip plus boreal ring) so I can utilize the relic shield that adds +1 per die to cold spells

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lightning unfortunately sucks compared to fire shit.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You could give her loremaster levels and maker her a dc caster with a few good inclusions

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I had a weird idea of a build using daeran as a fire caster
              it's not weird. he's also good at that and you can easully do it. In fact he'd probably be better at it, since he doesn't have the -4 to attack

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              don't forget to give her a 1 lvl crossblooded sorcerer dip(Gold+brass/red), you will deal tons of fire damage with that.
              >daeran as a fire caster
              why would you turn the designated heal bawd into a mage?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why would you turn the designated heal bawd into a mage?
                because i want our bedroom hymns to be spicy

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                then give him beneficial curse(blacened hands) and second mystery(flames). you will not sacrifice his healing abilities and still cast fire spells

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          a staff that improves her spellcasting. she should not be auto-attacking. if you're not suing spells you should be using hexes

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Does one solely use her by spamming her hexes and spells, and equip no weapon on her?
          yes anon. she is spell caster, she is suppose to cast spells not swing a 2H sword. give her the warmage staff you get in Ivory sanctum and Red salamander ring+ring of Pyromania.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Trust me anon, once you unlock a few hexes and cackle you'll be too busy juggling them and casting her fire spells to even think about her doing anything else.
          Grab a staff that buffs spells and spam.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      ulbrig

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Regill often trips on his own giant wiener and steel balls, but that might be because his legs are very short.
      Ulbrig has a big dong, probably bigger than regill's.
      Daeran has a slightly above average dong but very aestethic.
      Sosiel has a small sissy dick you can fit in a chastity cage very easily.
      Lann is insecure about his penis, but it's not small at all
      Woljif has it average.
      Greybor lacks lenght but has insane girth
      Trever has the bbc but it has been mutilated in the arena

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Trever has the bbc but it has been mutilated in the arena
        damn, did a succ bite it or something?

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah it's terrible

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reclaim Drezen with Regill
    >get turned into a Trickster
    >he starts grumbling about how I'm now a fricking clown
    I love this manlet like you can't even believe.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reclaim Drezen with Regill
        >get turned into a Trickster
        >he starts grumbling about how I'm now a fricking clown
        I love this manlet like you can't even believe.

        i'm doing it for you, reggie, old pal. trust the plan

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, and the 'you're still a traitor b***h' badmouthing he gave the Vanes are great.
        The one and only Gnome in any fantasy setting I actually like.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Vhanes bring the best out of everyone

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any mods, that add some useful hexes into the game? Aside from evil eye, ameliorating, greater ameliorating, fortune, protecgtive luck. misfortune and slumber none are worth it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vulnerability curse is not bad.
      Also hampering for Cam/battle spirit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        the only time i used it was in blackrock area. But then they nerfed it, so now I don't have to. It's kinda sad

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tabletop tweaks add dire prophecy which is just reverse Greater heroism on the enemies

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why no ember romance?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      she's mrf and can't consent

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      she is like 108 years old dude, adult Elf are like 110

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >she is like 108 years old you Sick frick!
        alright i laughed a little

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think even if she was of adult elf age, her mental capacity will remain that of a child. At that point, what would the morality of romancing a child in a adult body?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          mentally disabled people deserve love too

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            The mentally moronic can't possibly understand the concept of romance but Ember is a gullible moron who would trust you anyway.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              if you genuinely care about the person and not just taking advantage I dont see whats wrong

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Caring is fine but having sex with a mentally moronic person when they have no desire for it or don't even know what it is, might be a precarious position. They may not exactly appreciate it or know good from bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok, pedo

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the vast majority of the development team and playerbase would find convincing someone with the mental age of a 6 year old to have sex with you to be in poor taste.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dnd combat in crpgs has never been fun
    Of course, it's D&D, D&D sucks
    >divinity doesn't count
    Of course it doesn't count, it's not D&D, moron, it still sucks but for different reasons

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stormlord's resolve turns all your energy damage into lightning
    >visual effects don't change
    lame

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lightning ball and rays would be fun

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wish there was a mod which combines both kingmaker and wotr together like how fallout 3 and NV were combined through tale of two wastelands but I guess that's impossible.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of waiting 2 weeks for galfrey you now have to wait 200 days
      no thank you

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      why? because you want to Add Arueshalae into your barony harem with the twins or something?

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any mods that whitewash sosiel and his brother?

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What happens if you pick Sosiel's brother portrait for your MC?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      nothing

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    hol up
    if I set the crusade on auto mode I lose out on artifacts? What the frick is this bullshit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if i don't engage with a part of the game I get no rewards from it
      what seems to be the problem?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesnt want to do dogshit minigame so lets frick over his playthrough
        why are owlBlack folk like this

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Toybox it, literally no one does it legit

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Caring about the ending slides
    >Not making up your own headcanon
    ngmi

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >making up your own headcanon
      yeah, that's cope

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Caring about the game's writing and dialogue
      >Not just making up your own headcanon

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't someone just make a fun version of these games?

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    man i hate the MC backstory in this game, why did i have to be some special homunculus instead of a random guy?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Owlcat can't get enough of making your character a special snowflake

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the only instance in this game where it's encouraged to disregard owlkek's moronic writing and just make your own headcanon

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought she explained it as you are just a normal guy that she grabbed, made unconscious and implanted her son in. Otherwise the Backstory selection would be actually pointless aside abilities

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Otherwise the Backstory selection would be actually pointless aside abilities
        Are you implying that's not the case?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      make your own headcanon start and ending bro. my MC escaped from Areelu lab and got Rescued by Arueshalae just like the Tabletops

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make all good and neutral aligned characters incredibly annoying with 2005 fanfic tier stories
    >make all evil aligned characters interesting and give them genuinely engaging stories
    why does owlcat do this? I want to play a good guy but apart from like 1 or 2 exceptions the entire good cast is just terrible.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Regill and Daeran sure but Wenduag and Camellia aren't interesting or have engaging stories

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wenduag is if you put up with her bullshit and romance her. It's very poorly paced but the kiss scene makes it worth it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Kisses you when she thinks you're dying because she believes a kids story
          Romanced Wendu is pretty cute

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Forces you to take a potentially lethal poison by saying "YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL IF YOU DON'T :("
            >In the same game where even a psychopath like Camellia refuses to kill you by dumping you
            Yeah very cute

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Forces you
              Or you could not be a b***h. Imagine thinking you would ever die to some little demon's poison

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >immune to poison because aeon
              Heh...
              On the other hand she should've been slaughtered at the bar fight if you're an aeon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Camellia's romance has much better dialogue than Arue's it's not even funny.
        Good side of the game is inferior in every way except ember. And I say this as a huge Aruegay.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is the second time you post
          >Aruegay btw
          You're not fooling anyone homosexual

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This is the second time you post
            I have posted in this very thread at least 5 times
            >You're not fooling anyone homosexual
            From yesterday. My reccomendation is always Arue for good characters and Camellia for evil ones.
            Camellia's dialogue is just very well written and her romance is very unique, Arue is more generic but also cuter.
            Would not marry the former IRL (for obvious reasons), but would Arue.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >My reccomendation is always Arue for good characters and Camellia for evil ones.
              same. my Demon commander deserve her more than Wendog who only deserve Azata

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Camellia's romance has much better dialogue than Arue's it's not even funny.
          this is what you get by hiring a moron with animu brainrot to write for your game

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cry about it

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            get the frick out out her then homosexual

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you want people to understand what you're trying convey try speaking english next time, esl-kun

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people to understand what you're trying convey
                lol

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                GOD DAMMIT!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are misunderstanding, I'm fine with anime moeblob, it's cute.
            I was just defending the accusations against camellia.
            I also think wenduag is pretty interesting, I just didn't like the way her romance and companion quests play out together, felt inconsistent.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >moeblob, it's cute.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aight someone post that conversation where you have to go "You're my bestest friend ever and I love you so much!" at Camellia so we can laugh at this anon.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Simping for her too much will end the romance, you should stop judging things from Ganker screenshots and try actually playing the game.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's a literal conversation you have with her in the romance, and it doesn't break it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fine, i remember which conversation this is about, but I will defend that as well, as most games allow you to instantly exit dialogue when you ask a question, while if you try that cam will get mad because she wants to know what you wanted to say and why.
                It's the silly options between like 4, and the dialogue chain is pretty neat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you're an edgelord and a homosexual, the kind that complains about fanfic stories while also liking a unique and special aasimar who is actually an butthole who is actually possessed by an evil eldritch abomination that gives him special powers

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >who is actually possessed by an evil eldritch abomination that gives him special powers
        that's... how oracle class works, yes

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I play a good guy and have no problem engaging with either daeran or regill. wendog and camellia get the noose though

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>make all evil aligned characters interesting and give them genuinely engaging stories
      The only one I found interesting was Daeran. Fun personality, actually able to call out bullshit and hypocrisy, great and unique backstory, interesting quest.
      >Regill: Overrated as frick, he actually only ever makes the most obvious and simplistic douchebag arguments ever, he only looks smart because other companions aren't allowed to argue back even though it would be easy as frick, his story borders on pointless. I got told "Take him always he's the best!" on my first playthrough and removed him from my party before chapter 4 because his level of writing was just annoying me.
      >Wenduag: Dumb as a doornail, schizo writing, good chances you won't even get to learn most of it anyway since the majority of characters are logically going to take Lann. Mongrel storyline is pretty good overall but she's just a component of it.
      >Camellia: Character starts and ends at "sadist".
      >Arueshalae: You effectively just ruined the character, evil Arueshalae has nothing going on nor does she ever have something meaningful to say.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MUH ARCS
        lol

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Where does that post say the word "arc"?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Knight Commander

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why do people keep saying KC instead of mc

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Regill had great world and council interactions. His personal quests were absolutely horrid and low IQ though, I agree.

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are wrong.
    and divinity was never D&D

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ok we have this parasitic evil monster race-
    >OY VEY!

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Right so I just finished Wintersun and let me get this straight, there was this Babau there, pretending to be a little flower girl, I assume prancing around and giving villagers flowers, not poisonous flowers as I understand it, but regular ones
    AND HE WASN'T BEING MIND CONTROLLED!?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The entire point of wintersun is that demons go there to larp as humans

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but as a little girl?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah just like how there are Gankernons that larp as little girls on Ganker

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, why not, it's exotic and fun to them, mortals behave hilariously from their point of view.
          Much like you get DnD players who RP has edgelords, you can even larp as a demon yourself in this very game.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah just like how there are Gankernons that larp as little girls on Ganker

        >yfw demons were /ourguys/ all along

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        but why? why would a Balor like Darazzand go there to Larp as? also i love How the interaction in wintersun goes if your a demon and you have Arue with you, just two couples with there four demon slaves travelling with them.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >why would a Balor like Darazzand go there to Larp as?
          why do grown ass men put on diapers and pretend they are babies who need to breastfed?

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why were the endings slides so shit in this game? In Kingmaker you rule as King of a newly prosperous kingdom with your Queen by your side, it even mentions a huge royal wedding. It was a great bookend to a journey. In Wrath it feels like they were going out of there way to write unsatisfying endings. Even the half elf bawd in Kingmaker got a nice ending. Meanwhile the half elf bawd in Wrath is like "lmao she ran off".

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Half elf bawd in Wrath is a literal mentally ill psychopath, anon, what the frick did you expect?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the half elf bawd in Kingmaker got a nice ending. Meanwhile the half elf bawd in Wrath is like "lmao she ran off".
      It's almost like they are different characters and while Octavia is a coping good person Camellia is completely unhinged, huh.
      The reason why Arue's ending slide is complained about is because it doesn't fit her character to not want a family life with the MC. But as for camellia, her ending was to be expected, it's either that, her killing you, or you killing her.

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    reject DnD
    embrace Runequest

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats nice, grandpa

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no class interesting enough to play for 100+ hours. You see everything they have to offer very quickly.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kingamaker's endings were just ask cucked. Valerie is a good example, in her "bad" ending she has kids with some random farmer but in her romance ending as your Queen she doesn't want to have kids something that should be her first priority as Queen of a new kingdom.

    It's been said before but whoever is in charge of romances at Owlcat is a literal cuck who pushes his fetish into every romance. It can't even be denied at this point.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >she doesn't want to have kids
      No, she just has no hurry, and neither do you

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are fricking moronic.
      The reason she is in "no hurry" is so the same ending slide accomodates both players who want and who don't want kids.
      If you are not romancing her, there is no reason to leave it ambiguous which is why the farmer ending has kids.
      It's such an obvious design choice, leave it to a Gankerermin to find a conspiracy behind it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole Valerie thing is a good indicator of who actually played the game and who gets their information from shitposts and memes. Her slide says that BOTH of you aren't in a hurry to have kids, not that she's refusing to have kids.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no hurry to continue their lineage
        this is literal cuck mentality. if you're a newly crowned monarchs then your first priority is to secure your dynasty by having heirs. owlcat is full of cucks and anybody defending this is a cuck too. i pray that one day russia rounds owlcat devs up in front of a firing squad for spreading propaganda like this

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You think about cucks too much, anon
          Besides Owlcat already ran off to Cyprus so yer too slow

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >this is literal cuck mentality.
          so how many offsprings do you have, anon? Better be at least 5, or you're a fricking cuck

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm not the ruling monarch of a new kingdom. it's not about having kids, it's about securing a dynasty which should be of absolute importance to a brand new king of a brand new dynasty.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              That also applies to securing your genetic lineage is passed on.
              Cuck.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if you're a newly crowned monarchs then your first priority is to secure your dynasty by having heirs
          Not everyone is RPing as a lawful character. Some are playing a CN rogue who was only in for the money.
          That's why they say "no hurry", so the player can headcanon his own children or lack of them as he pleases.

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick do you beat HATEOT
    I metagamed enough to give my melee fighters blind fight but each fight has 2 guys spamming plagues
    Also since linzi is fricking dead my attack bonuses are nonexistent
    Can I go back to the camp to add that generic bard from anoriel’s group into my party?
    Also was there some way to save Jaethal from Tristian? Him winning seems like bs considering he’s blind.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole Jaethal and Tristian thing has multiple outcomes depending on how you handled their quests.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro why didn't you stop Jaethal from killing her daughter? it's the only way to save her i think.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jaethal and Tristian surviving both depend on which ending you got for their quests.

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arue is close to perfection, but her design has one major flaw.

    Her genuine desires and thoughts about the KC are being suppressed without ever being given a chance to be freely expressed simply.
    It's even more obvious when
    >she constantly suppresses her desires and needs during any intimate moments or topics related to sex because she fears herself and her past
    >her genuine, unfiltered desires for the KC are revealed when they see dreams/thoughts of all their companions; in which she literally wants to drain the KC's balls and keep him to herself
    It'd have seen more fulfilling to see her grow, come to terms with her past, and enjoy herself fully with the KC. Contrary to her understandable fears, being lewd and have slightly deviant desires is completely normal and unique to succubi.

    This is just a minor, extra nitpick, but I also dislike her claims of how having sex with the KC opened her eyes to how little she knows about sex and pleasure.
    Unless this is an instance of a former depraved succubus never having done wholesome, loving, handholding missionary sex with a lots of kissing which left her completely out of her depth, it makes little sense given her form lifestyle.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Unless this is an instance of a former depraved succubus never having done wholesome, loving, handholding missionary sex with a lots of kissing which left her completely out of her depth
      This is obviously what she is saying you autistic moron

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but I also dislike her claims of how having sex with the KC opened her eyes to how little she knows about sex and pleasure
        bro KC mythic dick is too powerful man. even a Succ like her have to kneel to his wiener and Stamina

        >This is obviously what she is saying you autistic moron
        >even a Succ like her have to kneel to his wiener and Stamina
        Those are nice memes, but that's what they are. Memes.
        A former succubus with all her memories and experiences wouldn't be surprised by anything the KC might do with her.

        she exist for the sole reason of making your oc donut steel even ocer and donutsteeler, anon, what did you expect?

        >what did you expect?
        That they could have shown her coming to terms with her past and then learn to follow her own desires instead of suppressing them.
        It wouldn't even conflict with her ego-stroking aspects for the KC.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >surprised by anything the KC might do with her
          well she is, didn't you fug her after finishing her romance?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            As a former succubus, that kind of behavior is absurd, anon. One can write anything they want, so her being written like that doesn't make for a good argument or make her behavior believable.
            I simply think that making her desires for the KC at CERTAIN times more prominent would have made for more memorable and impactful scenes.
            It'd be far more natural to see her follow her instincts rather than have her constantly suppressing her emotions and desires with one or two fluffy lines after the fade to black.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not a meme you dumb dipshit, in this game you can frick several succubi and they're all in awe with you. And this doesn't even apply to her, she reacts like that because that's the first time she's having sex with someone she loves instead of raping someone to death.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >in this game you can frick several succubi and they're all in awe with you
            Selfinsertgays have to be cumming in their pants as we speak.
            >she reacts like that because that's the first time she's having sex with someone she loves instead of raping someone to death.
            No shit, anon.
            But you're just lying to yourself if you think that a former succubus who felt pleasures of countless kinds and intensities unimaginable to most living creatures would be taken away by some vanilla humanoid sex.
            I doubt she never had any kind of slow, sensual sex at no point in her long life. You don't even need to be in love for that.
            Minagho and other succubi clearly show that they are able to engage in slow, sensual sex too.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're getting filtered by the common "prostitute/manprostitute realizes that having sex with someone you love feels a million times better than fricking around just because" trope, come the frick on.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >getting filtered
                I'm arguing that not going for that trope would have made Arue feel more real, hot and memorable.
                Her romance could have shown her growth and how she slowly stopped to fear her desires and instead embraced them without letting them control her.
                A loving, yet playfully lewd and mischievous succubus who makes the most of her life and experiences, which she gladly applies in her love/sex life with the KC, sounds far better and more wholesome than one that tries to suppress her desires out of fear.
                Her near constant fluffy, wholesome, vanilla behavior is fine, but she should have been more comfortable around the KC, exchange lewd remarks, provoke them (in)directly. Simply show them desiring each other both sexually and romantically just like any actual couple would.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did you even play the game? That's exactly what she does after you finish her questline.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I did and I can't really name any instance where Arue used her past experiences and knowledge to tease the KC, jumped him out of pure passion or desires, behaved akin to a succubus in love (think that one scene when the KC saw her dream/thoughts where she was figuratively salivating to drain his balls) and other actions I'd expect from a former succubus who had find herself a lover.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >First thing she wants to do after she stops being a demon is to frick you
                >Moans in the middle of a bar filled with people simply because you touched her shoulder
                >Every time you speak to her she touches you because she was starving for physical affection
                >Has a very suggestive line right before assaulting Threshold and you ask her what she's going to do after winning
                >"Uhhhh doesn't count because she didn't do this fanfic I made up"
                Uh huh

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's what she does, she even makes a comment if you ask her what she is going to do after worldwound and she basically pulls you closer and says ''you know what :)''

                >has a few spicy comments of 1-2 lines in length which can be counted on one hand which leave her embarrassed and weren't even done on purpose
                >I-IT IS THE SAME!!!!
                I guess I have slightly higher standards than anime-tier exchanges but without the heroine slapping the MC just because they are embarrassed.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't worry bro, Citedel dlc is going to add more of them along with Devil Rework and Anarchic gift.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Devil rework? Please tell me more.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                just a meme. there is no devil rework

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would someone lie on the internet.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop coping GD anon, maybe one you too will get a rework

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >meet and kill Hal
                >ass he breethes his last a huge golden dragon descends from the sky and takes form of a beautiful elven maid
                >Thank you, commander, for taking care of Hal. We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke.
                >Unfortunately after he started working with the cultists we didn't have the heart to put him down ourselves, for he was still one of us, even if he was moronic
                >As a reward I will teach you how to become a golden dragon yourself. Also come frick me whenever you want

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                kino, can't wait for the GD rework now

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                "Mythic destiny" content pack, coming out in the season pass 3 will contain

                Full Devil rework
                >Will become an early game path
                >Corrupt Arue into becoming an Erinys
                >Enslave Minhago
                >hellknight and hellknight signifier class improvements
                >Coup into Nerosyan so that it becomes your puppet state
                >Asmodeus faith will get new interactions
                >Will be able to execute seelah for being undisciplined
                >Will be able to send the entire ineluctable prision with Baphomet inside it back to hell
                >Will be able to trick Nocticula into a contract that obligates her to help you in the final dungeon
                >In wintersun will be able to replace Jerribeth with a devil that serves the player
                >In act 4 will be able to take over the arena and the brothel

                Lich Partial rework
                >Zacharius portrait
                >New Villain added, a demon of Orcust will send clerics to hunt you in act 3, it will climax in act 4 when he will track you down in the nexus and a boss fight will ensue
                >Leaving either the vampire or the cleric of Urgothoa alive won't make Zacharius mad
                >If the player has impressed Zacharius, asking him to not threaten the player won't be necessary anymore
                >If the lich sacrifice was either Camellia or Wenduag, the player will be able to resurrect them in a form that resembles Jaethal from Kingmaker. (Wenduag will appreciate the newfound power, Camellia will resent the player for the loss of pleasure in life)

                Trickster partial rework
                >Socobenthot portrait
                >More jokes and interactions added
                >Will be able to prank the people of wintersun by making the illusions worse
                >Nurah will be recruitable as a permanent companion
                >Improvements to the mythic gameplay will make DC casting builds more viable, specifically Illusion, enchantment and transmutation will be buffed by the path
                >Lantern king cameo
                >The council will organize a prank on queen Galfrey after the one on Nocticula has been resolved
                >Will be able to bring Vellexia as a mirror with yourself like finnean
                >Will get a scene with Cayden Caylean

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like major made up cope

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but what about Swarm? That shit is incredibly barebones

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >leave her embarrassed and weren't even done on purpose
                What the frick are you even talking about you autist, she's not embarrassed and they were very much done on purpose, again, did you even play the fricking game?
                >a few
                Yes, of course it's a few, because they happen late-game in act 5, when the game is nearly over. That has nothing to do with her but with act 5 itself being barren.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off. I don't need to "play" the game to talk about it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Frick off. I don't need to "read" the book to talk about it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You see, you're talking about her as an actual character instead of a frickdoll made for KC by Desna mindraping her

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're talking about her as an actual character instead of a frickdoll made for KC by Desna mindraping her
                The best goddess would never do something like that, r-right?
                There is no way she would have ever lowered herself to such underhanded tricks just so she could watch the KC and her pet succubus procreate in the most wholesome way possible or to get both of them to ascend and join her in her bed!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Regill is right, her redemption is a scam. Literally never would have chosen to be a good person if her mind was never forcibly changed

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                so the only people who are actully redeemed in this game are the ones ember preached to? that's unintentionally funny

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                hey as long as i get a Redeem Succ Wife it's fine, Cry about it purple haired Manlet

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Regill is right, even arue finds it difficult to refute him.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Regill isn't right because he literally never says that, stop using the manlet to project your headcanon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yea but what he does say about her is right.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not, he thinks she's lying, she's not, simple as.
                Even if we take your meme brainwash shitpost he never says that, simply that she's a demon that is lying and secretly waiting to kill everyone there which couldn't be more wrong.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks she's lying
                And she is, she's lying to herself

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, she's not, but feel free to keep coping.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                she is not, if a Angel can fall then a Demon can ascend too, no matter how steep the climb may be.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah. i just wish it was written better than a literal deus ex machina getting involved

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man I remember you bringing up this moronic argument, the only reason why she ever started to begin with was because of Desna who is a literal goddess, you don't know what a deus ex machina is, especially not in this context.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a literal godess gets involved to solve the problem
                >that's not deus ex machina
                ok

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A goddess asks her what she dreamt of and left her by for decades
                >After she solves the riddle she decides to reward her with quick ascension
                Yes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                only with divine interference to stir them into the path most desirable for that particular diety

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                and why is that suppose to be a bad thing? Desna showed her the path, it was her choice to follow it or fall. this whole moronic argument that the goddess of freedom herself somehow brainwashed Arue is moronic.

                >their own will
                So did Arueshalae, cope.

                Arue also did it own her own free will you Black person, read slowly next time

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Arue also did it own her own free will you Black person
                That's what I said moron.
                >read slowly next time
                You should yes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i quoted you wrong anon, pls forgive me!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a Demon can ascend too
                The ones preached to by Ember who made the choice to be better of their own will, yeah. Otherwise no

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >their own will
                So did Arueshalae, cope.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't in PF lore some other ascended succubus long before Arue, but with Sarenrae instead of Desna?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                nope, he thinks she is just making shit up. Regill even goes Full denial mode if you redeem her.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                it is a scam, but not in the way he thinks it is. It's not even a scam intentionally. It's just pozzo's writers being moronic as usual

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, how genuine Arue's redemption is depends on your point of view and is mostly philosophical in nature.
                For example, do you think a person who truly lost most/all of their memories is guilty of a crime they don't even remember committing or anything leading up to it?
                At what point is the person in front of you someone different from the one responsible for the crime?
                When they possess no memories of their actions or past? When their personality is nothing like it was before the crime was committed? How different it has to be for them to be a different person?

                I think punishing the Arue we meet in the game for the crime of the former Arue makes no sense. Despite the Arue retaining memories and experiences of her former self, the difference between them is so large that one can claim the Arue she's a different person.
                Granted, Arue's case is a lot hazier and complicated, but because of how succubi and lore work in Pathfinder and by having a tangible evidence Desna was involved in her rehabilitation, punishing her is pointless as you'd not be actually punishing the person guilty of the crime or one that would commit the crime in the first place.

                What's more important?
                Punishing a person that was literally changed and is no longer the person they previously were which achieves nothing but sates one's desire for punitive justice or letting the person be left suffering with guilty conscience until they can forgive themselves through attempting to right the wrongs they have done and/or make the world a better place if only by a tiny bit?
                Assuming they are not pretending to have changed or simply abusing the system to dodge the punishment, of course.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >or to get both of them to ascend and join her in her bed!
                as long as mommy Sarenrae show up too i am all for it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                so Desna just likes to watch commander and Arue frick each other brains out? Based Butterfly mommy

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's what she does, she even makes a comment if you ask her what she is going to do after worldwound and she basically pulls you closer and says ''you know what :)''

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                All romance is trash, please just jerk your dick and frick off because nobody really cares about it besides landwhales and coomers

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but I also dislike her claims of how having sex with the KC opened her eyes to how little she knows about sex and pleasure
      bro KC mythic dick is too powerful man. even a Succ like her have to kneel to his wiener and Stamina

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      she exist for the sole reason of making your oc donut steel even ocer and donutsteeler, anon, what did you expect?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      is there any point in the romance where you ever feel cucked? i'm looking for pure monogamous love

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i'm looking for pure monogamous love
        Then either choose Galfrey or look else because these games romance options are fricking weird.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          then why would people post lovey dovey posts about them?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because you're replying to a guy who tells you to romance the only girl in the game that actually tries to get you killed when you're romancing her.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              huh doesnt the girl camille do the same? im also asking about all of them in general, if people are making them waifus, shouldnt they be pure-ish?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Camellia's quest has her try to kill you if you don't feed her enough victims, but if you're dicking her down then that bypasses it

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cam leaves if you are romancing so that she doesn't kill you. Queen literally throws you into the Abyss with no way back. Wendu kinda does with the poison demon blood, but if she can survive and handle it there really isn't a need to worry that KC can't

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shouldnt they be pure-ish?
                lol, no. a waifu doesn't mean she's a pure virgin at all

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pure-ish
                In what kind of alternate world do you live in where that is true? Dragon Age's most popular romance is Morrigan who is anything but pure, BG2's (arguably) most popular romance is the drow bawd Viconia

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                one where /this/ place only waifus the good ones?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know what I said, go to any Dragon Age thread and ask who best girl is

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i don't live in alternative world, i think that is more easily validated.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Dragon Age thread
                >best girl
                picrel
                Anyone who disagrees has no taste.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's what he was trying to say dude.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                cuterue

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                isnt the queen-to-be/princess in origins pure?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                she was married to horndog cailan, how could she be pure

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >was married to a king
                >couldn't get pregnant despite trying
                now how do you think kids are made, anon?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Cailan's wife (who he fricked many times to try and have an heir to the throne) being a virgin
                huh????

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                anon, Ganker has the most basic b***h taste in waifus. meaning that it's the same as everywhere else

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ganker
                <good taste

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can't think of a single game where this place had good taste

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            because she is most hated NPC in the game who tries to kill you in this game.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >why are waifuchizos acting irrational
            dunno

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bro the mere mention of a female character that is romanceable makes you so mad it makes the demon path look tame by comparison

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            because she is a lovey dovey succubus?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        tl;dr Ignore the cuck meme.

        It stems from developer-confirmed excuse that they didn't have time to make unique slide endings, i.e. they were lazy fricks.
        And this laziness led to them using generic ending slides for Arue that implies she lived on her own and was visited by people that sought her help with overcoming their issues just like she did thanks to the KC.
        Cuckgays and local gays love to use that to bait Aruegays into meltdowns.

        Narratively, Arue tells the KC that they are going to live together and her behavior supports that she has eyes only for the KC, so go figure.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >where you ever feel cucked?
        No, she wants (you) and doesn't touch anyone else
        >i'm looking for pure monogamous love
        There's no option to have anything non monogamous with her unless you corrupt her into being evil again.
        But she is no virgin, she's a sex demon.
        It WILL be brought up.

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >divinity doesn't count
    it absolutely does
    Divinity is the most boring crpg i've played
    second place is Tyranny

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tyranny is a masterpiece, if it was actually allowed to be a complete game it would be the greatest CRPG of all time.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        still mad that i can't bang Sirin, frick you Sawyer!

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seems to be a running theme with him, everyone can frick each other except the protagonist who needs to stay single and sexless because of Sawyer's weird cuck fetish.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        people that praise those never played pnp

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love Jerribeth!

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are you gaining by keeping a Pathfinder general up since Kingmaker released? What is the point, what is there left to talk about?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is a new pathfinder game that came out?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Two fricking years ago.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its a really fricking long game

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          why weren't you in fire emblem three house threads asking the same question?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Matter of fact I was, I also pop into the Lobcorp threads when I can, thank you very much.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              So you're kind of like a janny but not really a janny.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I traded my authority for income.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I appreciate your persistence if not intentions

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, you weren't you fricking liar. I was in every single one of those threads for 2 years, and I don't remember an incessant moron posting "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS GAME" in every single one of them like you do with pathfinder. And pathfinder doesn't even get as many threads per day like 3h did which unironically was a general on Ganker in all but name

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I gain: discussion about a vidya I like
      You gain: seething

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just beat PotW for the first time yesterday so I imagine a couple of anons are like me

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are you gaining by keeping a Pathfinder general up since Kingmaker released?
    were you in a coma or something? there is second PF game that has been out for like 2 years now.

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what other CRPGs are worth playing. I tried Pillars of Eternity and the game was just fricking boring. I heard the sequel improves a bit but my autism would never let me play a direct sequel of a game without beating it's predecessor.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Underrail

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like my IQ isn't high enough for that one. I like build autism, but that one takes it a bit too far.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pathfinder Kingmaker
      Dragon Age Origins
      Neverwinter Nights (the expansions) and Neverwinter Nights 2.
      Solasta.
      Baldurs Gate 3.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Age Origins is the absolute best of the nu-CRPGs
      >who the frick camps several times in one session? if
      Caster MCs tend to early game. And older crpgs, casters would just spam the shit out of it.
      It's why I could never take caster MCs seriously.
      Rest spam in a dungeon / battlefield makes no sense, and is unimmersive

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    hahaha Imagine Arue turning into Regill during sex and say in his deep voice that he is cumming wouldn't that be hilarious Hahaha

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh shit. Is that the one way I can finally have my gnome daddy romance? I wonder how he'd react if I told him about that

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        "Please keep such thoughts to yourself, Commander"
        He then continues to serve

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        nothing unless you tell Arue to act specifically not like him at all because Hellknights take mental damage if they see something that is not acting according to it's nature(law)

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          so Regill would take Damage if he saw Arue and Commander handholding?

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got a fun Woljif build? I have absolutely no idea how to make him good because my last playthrough just had him benched

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Self buffing dodge tank. Or just put levels into Slayer and call it a day.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      16 vivi/4 rogue is the best. i've also heard he is great as a DEX Sword saint.

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pick azata path
    >power of friendship, hipsters, midgets everywhere, animals like i am a disney princess
    i hope they fix devil, gold dragon and swarm paths

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anon picks chaotic good path
      >Is surprised its chaotic good
      Just go demon or something

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        chaotic good does not need to be cringe

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the best path for an alchemist? A bomb throwing one.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      azata

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's legend

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the triggers for the Tavern Defense anyways? Is it literal time or is it after doing certain quest or areas?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      timed. i think you can increase the time if you kill the guys at tower of Estrod first

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey bro, come to the Azata court
    >Early Sunset turns into Mephistopheles
    >Knocks my entire party flat with Sirocco, summons a million hellhounds and nukes everyone with Hellfire Blast
    What the frick, this is such a huge difficulty spike. Any advice? It didn't help that I had the ring that spawns spiders equipped, the game started stuttering with how many spiders were spawning and dying.

  72. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I get fire kineticist to work? I'm level 5 and still all I do is shoot one gay little fireball a round.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a meme class unless you go earth since Deadly Earth alone breaks the game and you get that at lvl 11 or so

  73. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I turn my Azata homosexual butterfly wings off

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Visual adjustment 2

  74. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is a build around Feral mutagen worth it? Ive seen it and it seems pretty cool for a demon run.

  75. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have good halfling portraits or art in general?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just Google halfling portraits there are thousands. Or if you find a pic you can just resize it to match the portrait dimensions.

  76. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love pathfinder and finished wotr 4 times. But yeah, dnd combat is shit. Even dos2 combat is better.

  77. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people keep saying KC instead of mc

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Knight Commander

      [...]

  78. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just wish demon/devil lads could put penis inside of Hepzamirah somehow

  79. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >deus ex machina
    i mean she killed a goddess's priestess and invaded said goddess's domain. how was it supposed to end?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      like it always ends? in nothing. or are you implying ti was the first desnan cleric ever to get killed or something?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Arueshalae specifically entered the dying priestess' dream out of curiosity and to mock Desna, it wasn't the murder itself. Speedreader at it again.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >desna
        >in nothing
        lol
        lmao

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >like it always ends? in nothing
        I bet Aolar thought the same thing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >like it always ends? in nothing
        >Desna
        someone doesn't know how serious Desna take the life of her priest unlike i*medae

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >desna
          >in nothing
          lol
          lmao

          >s-she d-did a thing that o-one t-time
          ok

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          She doesn't, Desna took revenge on that demon lord because he went above and beyond, he didn't just kill the priestess, he took control of he corpse and used it to kill her loved ones, while also forcing the now dead priestess to watch, THAT is what made her mad, not the death itself.
          You people read so fast it fricking hurts.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate secondaries so god damn much.

  80. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every single thread with you fricks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If aruecucks weren't so easy to bait it wouldn't have hit this point. To get things back on topic, what's a fun trickster build?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what's a fun trickster build?
        bad place to ask that I'm afraid. the only answer you're gonna get is crit stacking with persuation trick. people are incapable of trying anything else

  81. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arue was a mistake

  82. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Irori is the only god I respect. Fricker reached godhood through sheer effort. All the other new gods took a shortcut and then that c**t Iomadae has the nerve to b***h about you doing the same as if her own rise to godhood didn't come from space magic that nobody understands..

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Iroritards are so stupid, you're not special, Nethys exists too.

  83. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What build for 2handed murder?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just Unga your Bungas

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Abyssal, Fey or Celestial bloodrager with big unga bunga sword or axe

  84. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd think that one quest where you adopt literal Dragon Jesus would be more relevant.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >accidentally sell him to a skeleton bendor
      well, have fun in Hell I guess. I'll pick you up when I got the time (never)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i forget that i even had him in the only time i did that quest, what does he do exactly?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think it was a kickstarter quest

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All kickstarter content in this gmae should have a trigger warning

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are there any other examples of quests with world changing implications in games but they amount to nothing for whatever reason?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kickstarter quests are the fricking worst part of this game by a wide mile. Especially kickstarter quests that span the entire fricking game.

  85. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Linzi as a bard was pretty good in Kingmaker.
    How are bards in Wrath and how they do compare to skalds?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      thundercaller is underrated, nothing in this game resists sonic damage

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skalds are great for all melee party, can give barb rage powers to everyone and when you reach lvl 20 give haste using raging song

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >when you reach lvl 20 give haste using raging song
        literally irrelevant.

  86. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    okay what is the strongest lore spell/power/ability, preferablly unique to >>MC<<, you know from any tabletop-like game?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any of the trickster ones that break the fourth wall

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn, i keep hearing that and i dont want to play a class with such a homosexual name

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >trickster
          >a homosexual name
          ...are you projecting on a video game's class name?
          You have to have some unresolved issues with your sexual identity if that makes you think of gays.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            doesn't sound as cool as eldritsch knight, swordlord, theurge.. and then then there's trickster.. it does rub me off the wrong way if you're telling me a godlike figure is a prankster

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Never played Kingmaker huh

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                homosexual story, at least "lantern king" sounds ominous

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you're telling me a godlike figure is a prankster
              Oh, boy... if any god worshiped by humans actually exists, then they are for sure a prankster given the absolute state of this realm of existence.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it does rub me off the wrong way if you're telling me a godlike figure is a prankster
              anon...

  87. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >try all the different classes looking for a fun martial
    >end up having the most fun with a Fighter 20

  88. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember to always stay protected during sex by wearing your full plate armor

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean... that's actually a solid advice in some cases. The evil spider is definitely one of them.
      She could harm you unintentionally in the heat of the moment.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the herald of iomedae such a dense buffoon?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the herald of iomedae
        >a dense buffoon
        You mean... most goody two-shoes characters are like that.
        And let's be fair. His goddess isn't much better in that department.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        because he's a himbo. Himbos are the best

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wenduag my beloved

  89. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's his build?

  90. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God, I've been planning on starting another wotr run since yesterday, yet i'm still here, shitposting. how do I stop?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You might as well just stick around and wait for the DLC to come out in a few months.

  91. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    games where you become (a) god?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the age of decadence

  92. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    does someone have the old romance poll results that Owlcat did?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly arue does not look like that.
      Big waste of potential, they could have been reaping a frickton of royalties checks like yoko taro is

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        true. they could get tons of coomers to play the game if they add a bikini armor for her with a butterfly womb tattoo

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        2B doesn't look like that either

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      if i remember right, it was arue on top with double the votes of second place daeran. the others were far behind with cam slightly above wenduag

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Normalgays have shit taste
        Many such cases

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      here. they also did a popularity contest and Arue, Daeran and Regill were the ones on top.

  93. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    huh i most have my memories muddled i thought there was some princess or something that the first antagonist was holding in origins

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      anora? she exists she's just not a virgin

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, that's her, Anora, but she's not a virgin at all

  94. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In theory, if you play as the female noble, marry Alistair and become his queen, you do get the pure relationship with no cucking involved.
    The only downside is that you've to be fine with otome games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't know

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>He doesn't know
        Okay, shoot.
        I don't recall anything impure about their relationship.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          alistair has to frick morrigan for both of you to survive

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      there's nothing wrong with otome games

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alistair HAS to frick Morrigan, otherwise there is no relationship because he dies

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But that's... absolutely understandable.
        If you'd rather die or let your partner die instead of letting him frick your friend, then you clearly don't care about either of your lives and the relationship is dead anyhow.
        How insecure you have to be to choose death over letting your partner frick your friend once?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          by that logic what does it matter if either of you fricked someone else before?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          t. cuck, female edition

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cuck

  95. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >succubus doesnt look as much of a succubus as the lady on the cover
    why?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      succubus isn't as evil as the lady on the cover. evilness translates to succubusness

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      wdym?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        its like gooder girls always look childish and villainess looks more whorish in a good way

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's trying not to be a succubus anymore

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        so she's trooning out?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Technically she could shapeshift into a guy.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            if she has a soul of a femlae and shifted into a guy that would make a troon, right?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              It would make one a shapeshifter you mentally ill /misc/tard

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >soul of a female
              She has and will always have the soul of a demon

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A female demon
                Later azata (female)

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              no it wouldn't you braindamaged troon lover. and besides she is made from the souls of thousands of murderers, criminals and rapists combined together

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          if she has a soul of a femlae and shifted into a guy that would make a troon, right?

          Actual mental illness.
          She doesn't have "the soul of a female". Like all demons, countless evil souls form her

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no it wouldn't you braindamaged troon lover. and besides she is made from the souls of thousands of murderers, criminals and rapists combined together

            so she's a they/them? I knew that arutards are homosexuals, wew

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does "looking like a succubus" even mean moron, they both have wings and horns (no tail for Areelu though)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      well that is her entire character, trying not to be a murderous raping succubus again.

  96. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    two friends killing chaos as it should be

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off israelite.

  97. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not romanceable
    what were they thinking?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      good. she is my MC Mom and i wil give her mytihc grandkids demons with Arue

  98. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no cute kitsune gf

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