Do you buy your PDF:s?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, next question?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not since the new OGL. Pieces of shit are never getting another cent from me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Came here just to say this. I have zero moral objections to stealing from Shittards of the Coast now... except for the fact that I'm gonna be giving my attention (and my money) to companies that don't suck massive horse cock now. I don't want Shittard's stuff anymore even if I can get it for free.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I have quit buying Magic as well. Fuck Hasbro and JotC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >stops buying pdfs because they no longer like the company and not because they're paying money for pdfs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some people do in fact have jobs that make buying the occasional RPG book a trivial expense

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not about how much it costs its my way of garden gnomeing out GW

          If buying story books for adults makes you feel better go for it but men it seems misrable

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I understand what you are saying but, again, it's the equivalent of grabbing a can of soda on a whim on your way to the checkout counter for many
            (personally I pirate anything I can)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, wizards never made any official PDFs (outside of secondary shit like Adventurer's League) for 5e; stop saying shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They stop getting my money the moment they released they the 3.5 cash grab.
      I don't understand why it took you and others so long. I wonder what so hard to understand?
      Are you, and other like you, trying to convince everyone you didn't know WotC was a scummy company? Maybe running the most deHispanicable and predatorial gaming business model of all time, Magic The Gathering? Maybe that could be a sign that WotC was always a malefic business?
      Don't play surprised, no one is buying your fake outrage.
      I wish this new OGL is as bad as everyone is making a big fuss about, and even worse. You fucks all deserve it. I hope you get milked and played like a fiddle. And all they 3rd publishers who prospered these past 20 years by ensuring the WotC monopoly on most of the hobby, I wish them even worse. I truly hope WotC normalizes playing RPG through a computer and phone apps, digital MTX, DLCs, subscriptions. Maybe some lootboxes, that would be the cherry on the top.
      You made your bed, lie in it, gay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >predatorial gaming business model of all time
        just dont play it moron, i dont see whats the problem. Btw doing draft with friends costs like 10 bucks per person and can get refunded if you open some expensive card. cheaper than going to see a movie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >rationalizing his overpriced slop
          Eat shit you fat fuck.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i have not been playing MTG for 13 years m8. It doesnt make me angry at all. Just dont play it boy. You are seething as if MtG fucked your mother

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How am I seething about mtg you fat fuck? I said mtg had always been the obvious sign that WOTC doesn’t give a shit about their player base. Learn how to read, ape.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you called it
                >the most deHispanicable and predatorial gaming business model of all time
                But sure, you are not angry at all. Maybe you are jsut braindead gay repeating buzzwords after his YT chud squad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s a fact you can’t dispute.
                I accept your concession, fat fuck.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure run away moron. Back to your elf thread

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bet he likes those midgets too, do the elves make you cope and see the anon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >esl monkey is a corpo bootlicker
                Colour me surprised.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wait till you hear my take on OGL

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >doing draft with friends costs like 10 bucks per person
          Enjoy those cards being worthless very soon.
          I can get two brilliant movies on a disc for that total price, and I get to keep 'em.
          >can get refunded if you open some expensive card
          >if
          That's how they push units, silly, the chances are against you. One guy out of thousands will get their money back, and it wont even cost Wottocks, because you're the one who ragebuys the rare you deserved and didn't get from the seller. How do you think casino's work?
          >cheaper than going to see a movie
          Jesus Christ! I'm sorry to hear that.
          But then again, a single movie costs in dollars orders of magnitude more to make than it does to print 1,000 rare cards. Movies also don't very often become worthless after release. If a movie is worthless, it's worthless from the start, and only outright illegal shit gets banned.
          Your entire "cheap" draft gets banned within months, making it the worlds most expensive toilet paper.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Enjoy those cards being worthless very soon.
            if you do draft with friends no one cares about the cards anon. If there is something expensive its sold and used for the next draft in couple of months
            >That's how they push units, silly
            no one buys boosters hoping for expensive card
            >a single movie costs in dollars orders of magnitude more to make than it does to print 1,000 rare cards.
            so what? I am consumer of the product, i dont give a shit how much it costs to make. My only motivation is the enjoyment and draft with friends is pretty fun thing to do

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >if you do draft with friends no one cares about the cards anon.
              Sure, the friends don't, but you could also watch a good movie with friends if being with friends is all that matters. The anon I replied to seemed to think that the value for bucks meant something, though, which is why I argued worth.
              >no one buys boosters hoping for expensive card
              It's the only reason people buy them.
              Don't say friends. Your friends wont give a shit because you're the one who brought up the idea to them to do boosters and drafts and shit.
              The vast majority of people buying boosters are doing so to get the rares.
              >so what? I am consumer of the product, i dont give a shit how much it costs to make. My only motivation is the enjoyment and draft with friends is pretty fun thing to do
              Good for you. As mentioned before however, the anon I responded to used price as a winning factor, so I argued price.
              The fact that Wottocks can pump out one thousand rare cards and make millions for pennies on the dollar, compared to a movie crew that must spend millions before they even see a cent, does justify the pricing of the movies somewhat.

              I'd question your idea of fun if I had more space in one reply. It seems like a replayable board game may be better for your group than mtg boosters, since you aren't looking for the rare bombs specifically, which is the main reason to get mtg boosters, and everything else mtg offers from draft in terms of chaos factor gameplay can be found in more plenty in board games.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd question your idea of fun if I had more space in one reply. It seems like a replayable board game may be better for your group than mtg boosters, since you aren't looking for the rare bombs specifically, which is the main reason to get mtg boosters, and everything else mtg offers from draft in terms of chaos factor gameplay can be found in more plenty in board games.
                you would probably be right, but MTG is something we all played at one point and we all have jobs now, so money isnt really and issue. You are definetly right its more about friends than the game.
                Board game for 8-12 people is quite a rare thing tho
                My point was that calling MtG the most predatory game ever is overreaction. Yes playing standard and extended (or whatever is it called these day) is for chumps, but as with many other things if you approach it like an adult MtG isnt all that bad. Even playing commander with some price limit will give you plenty of fun

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Commander/EDH is great, because there aren't many banned cards in the format. That, and it being singleton 100 cards gives players an excuse to slot in cards they wouldn't have the space to use otherwise, as well as somewhat forcing decks to be less reliant on one tricks. There's a good reason people who don't like MtG still like Commander.
                Even I like Commander. It's a glimpse at the game MtG really can be without the Wottocks bullshit interfering with it; a poetic observation given that EDH was an unofficial format originally.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, even with one deck per player you get great variety and most people just build funn gimmick and not autistic combo

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a vampire and a pathfinder humble bundle and two big itch.io bundles, the racism and the ukraine one...but even then when I want something I just go online instead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vampire HB
      Why? It didn't include the 20th Anni (the one everyone wanted) but 5E.

      Pathfinder and Cyberpunk, I could understand: Those were good bundles. But Vampire? Really?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the one I got was from before v5 was released, it came with the 1998 revised edition and a lot of owod supplements

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did it? I thought both Vampires were 5E. I would've gotten the 20th anniversary one, but I never saw it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer VtM5e

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You might be a retard prefering V5 but at least it modtly goes to Humble Bundle charity instead of Paradox.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was there a itch bundles supporting racism?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I enjoy them, yes. But I always try before I buy.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They tend to come with part of the hard copy I buy unless its in pdf form only. I tend to print out my own after that, don't like using a computer at the table.
    I always download a copy before paying for it to see if its a thing I will actually use. End up buying a lot more stuff that way than I otherwise would.
    I haven't ever bought a wotc product though. Always seemed like shit since before even then.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A couple of the ACKS books.
    Most of my digital stuff is from a hard drive passed around in uni.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some indie ones.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy my PDFs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, I do.

      Ok. Which ones are yours?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I'm not mistaken, you lose access to all that shit if you ever cancel your sub, or at least lose any reason to have even purchased the books, as they severely limit what an unpaid account can do with the service.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't pay for bits and bytes that can be copied infinitely at no cost. I pay for physical media.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Haha, no. I either use free systems that use google docs or free systems that use pdfs. If I run/play 5e I use third party resources online.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I were to play DnD, I would own all the pdfs. That is all I am willing to disclose on this matter.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I buy stuff on Humble every so often.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do I buy my PDFs?
    Some of them, my group shares the files so we take turns buying this and that pdf, we've also been gaming together for more than 23 years.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shid. It's cheaper to buy the books.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SOON

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      please bitch.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a world where physical goods can be downloaded with a pc
      >poverty and starvation can end with the click of a mouse
      >YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tor -> zlibrary -> search book ->Click download

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've bought a few, sometimes it's more convenient for how I use them, and there have been a few where I needed to be able to read and use a new book before the usual ports of call had stripped and uploaded them.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I buy pdfs off of Wargames Vault and occasionally DriveThru. I like supporting indy game devs. GOOD indy game devs to clarify

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    But not from wotc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WoTC doesn’t sell pdfs.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

    Digital literature isn't worth paying for unless you sink money into a specific device and I can't think of a more uncomfortable or impractical way to read something than sat at my PC or holding a tablet that's slowly running out of battery.

    What PDF's are good for is try before you buy. I've bought several hard and softback books because I enjoyed the PDF.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if you live somewhere the books are hard to ship to? PDFs are fine if you can pay somewhere to print and spiral-bind them for you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pixels are free, mate.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll horde PDFs of stuff I find online. When i use stuff in games or find myself referencing a specific file a ton, i'll buy the PDF (or hardcopy if available). Unless its WoTC, then fuck 'em

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not if I can help it

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I buy the ones that look interesting. Some have even been worth grabbing a physical copy too.
    I support good creators.

    After the mess with WotC I think I'm done buying their products. I'm going to steer clear of kickstarter as well since they took WotC's side on things.

    I have collected a lot of old out of print pdfs to preserve the data though. Deleting old books feels almost as bad as burning physical ones and they aren't that big a hassle to move around like hoarding an entire library of dead tree carcasses is.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I download to read systems but if I play it, I buy it.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pirate my PDFs, pay for my books. I think the last thing I bought from WotC was the dragon monster manual book.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not anymore. Maybe when I'm not poor.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, but I buy physical books of systems I like. All of my actual books were pirated first, then purchased because I'm a stupid mammal that likes holding things.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dndbeyond
    >buy
    Are you retarded?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes, sure. I think PDFs are handy for RPG books, though I prefer physical books for literature. Whether it's a physical book or a PDF, people making good stuff deserve to get paid for their work.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course not, also you aren't buying a PDF, it's kept on their app.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >44 books
    >$964.35

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pirate from the known places
      >$0.00
      And then WotC wonders why their revenue is down.

      Also:
      >Digitally can only be bought at DnD Beyond or Fantasy Grounds
      >Which overcharge MASSIVELY
      >Can't buy on roll20
      >Can't buy on other virtual table tops
      >Fantasy Grounds ($120+ before books microtransactions) ONLY or DnD Beyond.

      Wizards is so goddamn retarded. It's baffling that 3.5E is on DriveThru but not 5E.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Wizards is so goddamn retarded. It's baffling that 3.5E is on DriveThru but not 5E.
        It really is some weird fucking shit. There's probably some asperger high-level suit who's on a personal crusade against piracy or something. Literally every 5e book is already easy to pirate as almost professional quality pdfs but WoTC still refuses to sell official pdfs. It would literally be free revenue for them.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me /tg/. How many of you do play modules?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have never run a full one. I only nitpick ideas for ongoing adventures. Sometimes whole reskined dungeons.
      I am thinking of doing a DnD crawl and taking my group through all the published modules back to back. Condensed and reworked of course. Official WOTC materiqls are absolute garbage to read and run RAW. Still not sure what system to use. Probably will cook up something custom to get the DnD feel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Still not sure what system to use
        you plan to do DnD modules with different system? why?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because 5e is bodersome to run an prep heavy. Monster blocks are too complicated and combat is too videogamy for my taste. Plus I run player facing systems only since I prefer focusing on running the game and random tables and letting the players live or die on their own merits.
          The Idea is to Hispanice things up with something more lighthearted then my regular campaigns. Hell, even I am exited for a party with demy-humans in it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why use the modules at all then? they are generaly poorly written and outside of giving you premade stuff dont offer much.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't know. Just to see what the DnD hype is about. I will rework them of course. It will be a learning experience for the mainstream side of the hobby.
              And since the Forgotten Realms are pretty goofy players will have the chance to play non-humans for once. Also having classes and levels would be interesting experience for the players.
              Also having the freedom of just puting goofy ass monsters left and right without actually thinking deeply why they are there.
              Sounds like a nice fun break of pace.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just to see what the DnD hype is abou
                most of the hype is because its simple, popular and with strong support frame (you can google naything you need to know).
                DnD isnt all that wacky in itself but it has plenty of funny things. Owlbears n shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. I guess I am looking forward to a more lighthearted game then my usual game of thrones- ish dark fantasy.
                And I absolutely suck at lighthearted adventures. So having a kitchen sink farytale world like Forgotten Realms full of magic and weird races premade for me does the job. However I can't stomach the 5e system sadly and my players find it boring too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What the hell is is? How the hell is 5e complex? It’s the literal easiest dnd aside of basic

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No it is not complex it is combersome to run and play.
              A wizard player and GM needs to rear through all 500 spells and know what they roughly do. All of hundreds custom class features and monster abilities. And balance all this soup to get an encounter that is not boring steamroll in eather way.

              For example in my games I give my players XP that they can trade to create ability. They come up with what they want and I veto and balance it and we call it a day. They can use more xp to upgrade it and so on. No homework involved. "I want my wizard to develop a spell that allows him to build a wiker man and animate it using the freshly cut heart of an animal." Cool, we figure out the stats of the golem and time to prepare the ritual and probably some querks depending on the type of animal heart and we are done.

              Creatures have hitDice, and special ability mapped on d6 that I roll at the start of turn to wee if ot will activate. Some have difficulty class. That's it.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't hold it, you don't own it.
    Anyone who pays money for digital 'products' is a moron-tier retard.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >beyond d&d
    >beyond meat
    Hmmmmmm….

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Playing ttrpgs for 15 years. Many different systems and settings before I started homebrewing everything. I run TOTM only since I don't like minis (for rpg games that is. I love wargames and 3d print 1:100 armies all the time.)

    I have not spent a single dollar even on dice. (All dice I have are gifts from players.)
    Probably the only money I spend is for printing paper and printer ink. That would be around 10-20 pucks per year.
    You can find every pdf you need for free. If you are going to spend money better do it on phonical indie stuff and not souless corpo larpers.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there still people on this site? I thought DnD is dead in the water?

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i honestly would if Paizo didn't degrade into an SJW fest... and still printed PF1 adventure paths.
    but I have this rule about not willingly giving money to people who hate me and everything I like

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >small good-aligned company is also super-liberal
      Gosh, what a coincidence. But I'm sure rightoids will do their own version of ORC eventually. Because rightoids are so solution-minded they do things like this all the time right?

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From publishers and writers I like, yeah.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never buy PDFs. I only use them to determine if the physical book is worth buying.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I like the game, yes.

    But I use piracy as a means to test-drive games on the regular. I even printed and played shit like Three-Dragon Ante just to find out whether I'd like it before actually investing in the cards.

    Once I like something I support it though. I've bought lots of PDFs.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WotC NEEDS ti survive, it's the ONLY way D&D will fucking die. Jesus christ people, SUPPORT THEM! MAKE THE BIG YOUTUBERS AFRAID AND THEIR FANBASES WILL BREAK! Then you fuckers can all wabk 4e when everyone has completely abandoned hope. The only way to completely free D&D from normies and CR shills and to let it die is to SUPPORT WOTC! DO IT!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The worst psyop ever created
      Goddamn WotC shills are getting desperate.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have been out in force lately too.

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