Do you consider them canon and in the same "universe" as the mainline handhold games?

Do you consider them canon and in the same "universe" as the mainline handhold games Ganker?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. They're retarded fanfics.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded boring fanfiction

      >Map featuring Orre in AS/OR

      Oh no no you're coping

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a GF intern googled “pokemon world map” and slapped it into the game as a texture so my cringe fanfics are validated bros!!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also funny when they find shit on "the cutting room floor" and claim it's canon despite you know, being cut.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >interns having control of game assets

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ohmori was literally Masuda's intern

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, 26 years ago. Pokemon wasn't the highest-grossing franchise in the world at that time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          blaming everything strange that happens in companies on interns is a reddit meme and you should remove it from your vocabulary. consider this a recommendation from heaven.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shiny was something only the fandom said and game freak now call them shiny so this isn't that strange to happen tbh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded boring fanfiction

      >published by TPC
      Get educated dumbass

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and they are. You can literally trade and battle with the main line games.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they came from a timeline where pokemon is good and somehow landed in ours

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >these games that are the same thing as GF games but with drastically fewer features and a drastically shorter campaign is good guys trust me!

      I will never understand colosseumtards

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Gamecubetards

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're alright. Playing through them now.

        Most of their appeal was a short lived novelty at the time. The Pokemon available, particularly in Colosseum, weren't readily available at the time they came out, so it felt like you were catching rare exclusive Pokemon left and right. Nabbing the Johto starters and Ho Oh felt particularly special. That added a pseudo special feel to the game. Further, using them as hubs to battle in 3D was another great feature. But that novelty has worn off entirely, especially now that you can tell most of the Pokemon available are utter shitmons. I don't think these games were really meant to "last", I viewed them as Pkmn Stadium but with a short campaign as the focus.

        I wouldn't call them a beacon of quality like the other anon's making them out to be, but having a limited selection and small campaign can be to its benefit. Having a billion shadow Pokemon to purify would drag the fuck on, and while the Pokemon available are largely shitty, the games balanced around them so they dont feel terrible to use. Also the music is great.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Always amusing how prior to Heartgold and soulsilver the only way to get Johto mons into gen3 was via Colosseum

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how does HGSS let you get "johto mons" into gen 3 (A: zoomer who never played the games detected)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They don't. Also, while iirc a hand full may have been missing, FRLG and Emerald nearly all Gen 2 mons available. In fact, even base RS had some available like Marill and Skarmory, so it wasn't ever an all-or-nothing thing.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Reading comprehension

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no u

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the only way to get Johto mons into gen3
            You can find Johtomons in literally every gen 3 game, fucking zoomer retard

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA but when Colosseum came out lots of mons were exclusive to it it was extremely gnomish

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are and there's no reason they wouldn't be, but I think some of their features would be poorly adapted to the mainline games like the really lengthy battle animations. It works for Colosseum and XD, but picturing the same pacing in something like S/V makes me want to kill myself, especially with how long the Tera animation feels and the constant chugging.

          This sums up their novelty really well. A game focused around using whatever you can get your hands on was and is a good idea, it just wouldn't work for a main game. It's really the perfect spinoff.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A game focused around using whatever you can get your hands on was and is a good idea, it just wouldn't work for a main game. It's really the perfect spinoff.

            Agreed. It's also nice seeing a Pokemon game that didnt stick so insanely rigidly to the established formula. We're seeing more divergence now with PLA and SV, but back then and up until Gen 8, Pokemon was intensely formulaic. Even something as small as starting the game with evolved, lvl 20-some Pokemon, or choosing your "starter" at mid stage via stealing them felt refreshing. Let alone the whole playing as a rogue enemy team character and stealing Pokemon schtick.

            And, like you mentioned, a lot of the ideas wouldn't work as well in a mainline game.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Plus Colosseum and XD came out in that odd early to mid 2000's "everything has to be all cool, dark and edgy" shadow the hedgehog style phase that a lot of media and games went through at the time hence the games having you play as an edgy teenager who is a former member of a terrorist group which is not exactly somethng I can image the mainline games doing

              Will give them credit for trying something different though

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > most of their appeal was a short lived novelty

          not really, with much the battle presentation in the main series went off a cliff after Gen5, I still replay or watch footage of XD just to experience a much more exciting battle system.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a different time. Having a 3D Pokemon game that was an RPG instead of just a battle sim was a big deal back then. Having said that, I was pissed as a kid because "Coliseum" sounded like a step up from "Stadium" so I thought it was going to be basically Stadium 3 but with a story mode. Missed opportunity honestly.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Retarded boring fanfiction

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, "canon" is so fucking loose in Pokemon to the point where even the mainline games dont give much of a shit for consistency. Pokemon's better viewed as an overall "mythos", or general concept than any nitty gritty listing of what timeline is what, etc...

    But to answer your question, Pokemon are tradeable to and from these games, have consistent mechanics, and modern games even have the ribbon from purification still available, so I don't see why they wouldn't be "canon".

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are canon in the way that vatican city is a country so yeah

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Canon
    Yes
    >Same universe
    Not necessary

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and more so than Gamefreak's >Herp derp dey shrink

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, you need to trade with them to complete Pokedex.
    I've always thought that the storylines of these series are always better than the mainstream series. Unfortunately, fans often consider spin-offs as non-existent

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do and mine is the only opinion that matters.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't some tpci / nintendo page show them with the rest of the mainline games?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the montage before the SV reveal (or was it before PLA’s?) they showed .5 seconds of a Ludicolo from Colosseum, so they at least acknowledge that they exist.
      You’d think they’d be prime options for a shitty upscaled port, but maybe they’re waiting for the eventual NSO GameCube release to bring them back.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Orre exists but it's a shithole region so not many people talk about it. Just like real life countries

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My headcanon is that Team Rocket sold to Cipher from their more remote outposts like Five Island.

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