Genshin proved that a "single-player" MMORPG experience can be much more fun than traditional MMORPGs. Were you impressed? Do you hope for more games like this?
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Yes I like it. Im a boomer who hates multiplayers. Genshin gives me
>Excellent music
>Great comfy exploration
>Cute anime girls and seiyuus
>Regular new maps to explore
>Some events are fun
>Only require 30 minutes
Yes. Gacha chines spyware yadda yadda, but since genshin I'm barely playing my jrpgs.
>single-player MMO
This is what I had been looking for for years, so yes, Genshin is basically the perfect game for me, the best of both worlds from single player RPGs and MMOs.
I get story content updates regularly and between them can do my dailies and use resin in less than an hour each day, while not having absolutely any other people in the same world as me.
I have been playing every day since release and find the game just as entertaining as in the beginning, maybe more now that I have practically infinite reserves of materials collected so any new character can be built up quick and my existing characters are built to endgame-level for effortlessly annihilating anything in the overworld and Abyss.
>Do you hope for more games like this?
I don't care either way, I will keep playing Genshin until EoS, no point in switching to another game
Agree with all of this
Yes and yes
I'm not impressed in the slightest. I wasn't wowed by the visuals, the character designs are generic and unremarkable and the world feels lifeless and boring. It's nothing but the same handful of "challenges" haphazardly strewn about where your reward is some underwhelming combination of jack shit and a tiny trickle of gacha currency and artifacts are just a cancerous mechanic.
this but I've been playing since day one despite that
I'm not deluding myself though, it's a mediocre game
>single-player multiplayer game
why are chinks the dumbest shittards?
>Ganker seethes about BOTW
>Ganker gushes over BOTW but with spyware, gacha, p2W and waifus
So really the way to your heart is just replacing any character with a sexy anime girl and you'll take whatever corporate ass fricking comes your way
I don't wanna play as a twink with breakable weapons. Seethe tendy
So you'll play as a Twink that costs $70 in MtX so you can swing an unbreakable weapon that cost you another $150
I hope they flood the pool with 10,000 characters and only 2 of them are good so you soulless Black folk have to mortgage your house to feed your addiction
>he plays as a m*le
BotW is a design disaster at the late game imo
>all enemies are massive bulletsponges
>by approaching an enemy camp you lose good weapons, food, elixir and in exchange you get mediocre weapons, mediocre food, and way more elixir ingredients than you need
I really really hate this. You feel constantly punished for approaching content. Also, the fact everything has tons of health means the combat isn't satisfying in the least.
Because of this, exploring doesn't feel fun in BotW. Genshin's approach is brilliant, you don't lose on anything by approaching content, and everything you do feels like you made significant progress
>chest with 2-5 freemium currency
>you need 20 thousand something to guarantee a 5 star
>significant progress
huh
1) 5-stars are not necessary to progress the game. You can easily beat it with the starter team, and I really mean EASILY.
2) If you got a 5-star every week they wouldn't feel premium, they'd just feel like 4-star characters.
3) You are guaranteed to get several 5-stars per year as a light spender (someone who only buys the pass). It'd take an obscene amount of money to speed this up significantly, which is why no one except whales do it. And as the game is easy and you don't need any 5-star characters to finish the game, people only do this because they like the 5-star character's aesthetics
The reason killing enemies feels like you're always making progress is because you get ingredients that are needed for character growth. Unlike BotW, where fighting enemies is a net negative in late game.
>they wouldn't feel premium
You sound like a EA employee defending lootboxes here. The 5* don't feel premium as is, theres barely any tought put into their design when they reuse the same skills from old characters, including 4*, how is that premium?
>You are guaranteed to get several 5-stars per year as a light spender
And here you suggest spending money, on a shitty f2p game. You really must be a shill if thats your mentality
>which is why no one except whales do it
Hey how many billions has the game made since release?
.The reason killing enemies feels like you're always making progress is because you get ingredients that are needed for character growth
>put arbitary stopgaps in character progression
>create a solution for a problem you designed
>morons consider this progression
bet you think artifacts and constellations are well designed as well
>And here you suggest spending money, on a shitty f2p game. You really must be a shill if thats your mentality
Anon, you realize you have to spend money in order to play BotW, right? They're just different business models.
>put arbitary stopgaps in character progression
What is an "arbitrary stopgap" in a videogame? You think obstacles in videogames are made by God or by nature or whatever? Everything in a videogame is an arbitrary stopgap.
>Anon, you realize you have to spend money in order to play BotW, right?
actual moron, lmao
then you havent played the game enough since you clearly dont have any idea how long it can take just to get a goblet with proper elemental damage stat
nta but the only people raging about artifacts are trying to get 40 cv sets. Cons are a useless scam to milk whales
>And as the game is easy
I don't get this argument at all tbh.
I'm kinda new but I do consider myself a bit of a gamer and I also have Ayaka which is one of the stronger units in the game but after unlocking this boss in a quest I came back since you can rechallenge and wow the difficulty is astronomical.
Keep in mind this is my very best team and I can't lay a finger on this thing and I'm not even at low level or anything so I really have to wonder wtf are people oin when they say this is an easy game because it certainly isn't.
meh tier bait
what is wrong with you
just try harder
The beauty is tho that every single chest is valuable, you get primos, artifact fodder, xp books etc. Meanwhile no chest in BotW is valuable because its just another weapon thats gonna break. I live both games btw
>He cares about expending resources in a videogame
What are you gay? You just want shit to clog up your inventory? Why because you think it makes your dick bigger?
Resources are meant to be used
>But muh weapon
Either go get another one or use the master sword.
the master sword needs to recharge for 10 real minutes
yep about 2/3 through botw you've already fought the toughest lynels to get their weapons, so they along with the guardian robots are the only enemies worth fighting. anyone else including those annoying 400 hp yiga guys that start spawning everywhere aren't worth fighting, the only thing you want to do is leave them behind
also the puzzles etc aren't really interesting, after unlocking the 50th shrine you realize that's all there is, no one is interested in unlocking yet another shrine. genshin has the same problem, i think the devs there try to fix it by attaching interesting bits of lore to anything you unlock
>all enemies are massive bulletsponges
Genshin's idea of difficulty is adding more and more health to the mobs in the Abyss tho
DPS checks are few in Genshin (you nitpicked the single one). And they make sense for Genshin's combat. BotW's combat is monotone and DPS checks make no sense since you're just breaking weapons all day.
>abyss
>nitpick
its the only endgame this piece of shit has, I'd say thats the best example he could have given
>And they make sense for Genshin's combat
Oh thats rich, do enlighten me, how does it make sense?
>its the only endgame this piece of shit has, I'd say thats the best example he could have given
You're complaining the only endgame content requires an optimized party to pass the DPS check?
>Oh thats rich, do enlighten me, how does it make sense?
Like I said, in BotW a DPS check means mashing a single button as you break your weapons and wonder if tackling this enemy camp was worth it in the first place. There's not much more else to it.
In Genshin you need to put a lot of planning and building to get high dps. There are several ways to get abyss-worthy parties. And the execution is much more complex than what BotW has to offer.
Optmimized party? Far from it, it requires artifact stats, which means grinding for weeks. Or deep pockets so you can C6R5 someone and just slam your face into the keyboard like with the rest of the game
>In Genshin you need to put a lot of planning
EQ2EQ3EQ4EQ1EQ, theres your planning dumbass
>And the execution is much more complex
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Go back
Unlike you paid shills, I actually belong here. Your sales pitch was halfway believable, at leats until the execution part, now that was straight up comedy
You write like a sore plebbitor though.
If I slip in cope, seethe, dilate and insults, will I fit in with what your notes said about this place?
Anyone who calls abyss a dps check is a goddamn shitter or is just moaning about floor 12-3
That's what it is though, it's a thing where you need to kill things fast enough. If you don't have high enough DPS, you won't do it in time
More like timewasting
I like both
NO YOU CANNOT LIKE BOTH YOU HAVE TO PICK A SIDE FOR???????? REASONS
It’s honestly so tiring dealing with people having botw vs Genshin because you can like both games. Also frick sand Black folk
Genshin gets just as much seeth as BOTW does tbh.
you’re getting spied on regardless. shouldn’t be paranoid about it unless you’re on some ccp hitlist.
Both games are good but have obvious flaws, there are much worse games to direct your hate towards
No game with micro transactions can be considered a good game
There's nothing massively multiplayer about this
I like it
I wish there was a clone with sexier girls and would probably jump ship if it did release
same for me
the second there is a decent clone with no censorship I'm ditching Genshit
I have high hopes for AK Endfield
This needs to happen so Dawei has an excuse for his CCP overlords
>sexier girls
You mean coom bait girls, genshin girls are wholesome and attractive which is great. What they need is better male characters instead of twinks. Only chads in this game are Itto and Zhongli
I have fun here and there. Beginning is pretty eh, Liyue is decent, Inazuma I fricking loathe and like as a place yet it gave me best NEET war criminal.
>quit Genshin Impact because tired of artifact RNG
>several months pass
>roll Raiden Shogun on her rerun banner
>want to build Raiden Shogun
>realize I have to farm artifacts for her
>quit Genshin Impact again
literally me
building characters ruined the entire game for me
I know I could just be playing the game casually, questing and exploring with the characters I've got already
But the garbage fomo resin system ensures you'll feel like you're wasting your time unless you're grinding, even if you don't need it. So in the end I'd rather just not play at all instead of having to deal with their psychological warfare
>psychological warfare
My poor thing
the game is shit. unironically off yourself if you think this game design is good
Not really. In fact the weakest element of the game for me is the MMO-like playtime gatekeeping and time-consuming chores. I'd unironically enjoy playing it if all the chores were taken out of it. I don't want to spend time farming currency, I just want to play the game. I WANT to roll for characters but then I remember I need to spend time farming materials to level them up, I need to farm materials to level weapons up for them, I need to grind artifacts for them. But I can't even do that all day long because everything is bottlenecked. So instead of excitement I get apathy. Isn't that fricked up that I'd rather get copies of my existing party members so I don't have to farm more than get new characters?
Take all of this out, take gacha out and let characters be unlocked as you progress through the plot, let 5* weapons be unlocked through hard challenges, and you have a great, soulful RPG with beautiful scenery and music.
>and you have a great, soulful RPG with beautiful scenery and music.
not really because then you still have the shitty combat, recycled characters, and dumpster fire of a story
It's not much worse than your usual modern weeb game. Problem is I start yawning just by thinking about playing it. I already have a job, I don't need a second one unless you pay me.
>I remember I need to spend time farming materials to level them up, I need to farm materials to level weapons up for them, I need to grind artifacts for them
I feel you anon but that's what PLAYING THE GAME is all about. If characters were static and you didn't have to farm anything, what would you even be doing? The boring quests?
I would figure out what to do if this wasn't in the game at all, don't you worry. Are you seriously trying to say that the endless grind isn't only a good thing, but also the only good thing in the game? That's insane. The only reason it's in the game is because it's all about making people waste money and log in every day, not about anything else. As I said, take this and gacha out and I'd play it.
>what would you even be doing? The boring quests?
Or dropping it and playing something else until theres new content. Which happens anyway because even genchinks know theres frick-all content to do. Oh did you already to the new part of the desert? Cool, theres nothing for you to do for the next 4 months
If grinding is the only thing you can do in the game, its a shit game
>4 months
Absolute moron
I accept your concession
Impossibly autistic
Indeed you are. I'm not the one defending the honor of a mobile game
"Online-only singleplayer grindfest with optional multiplayer and some dumb life-sim minigames on the side" isn't a revolutionary new idea and Genhin didn't make this game design popular either. This title goes to other autism simulators like PSO2 (RIP) and Warframe (and also your first +500hr in FFXIV).
But I don't dislike this sort of thing because I'm addicted to grindfests and lifesims and I hate being forced to play with randoms, though I prefer offline games for that.
>Do you hope for more games like this?
No.
And this is coming from someone who has been playing since day 1 and only skipped out on one week.
>Genshin proved that a "single-player" MMORPG experience can be much more fun than traditional MMORPGs
Yep, Genshin Impact was definitely the first single player MMO. I'm glad that someone finally made one!
How much EM does Yae need?
depends on if you want to be ulting or not
iirc ~200+ if you want to be using your ultimate, none if you just want to use her as a turret bot
Someone make a non bait thread
There was another genshin thread up
Still not gonna fork over cash until they add cute kemono girls.
Noelle is best girl btw
I enjoy Genshin Impact's waifu philospophy.
Also I love Mona.
based
literally perfect in every possible way
The only reason why their game works is because of the insane amount of content they provide within a 6 week patch basis. Any other game without the free updates will crash and burn hard.
>insane amount of content they provide within a 6 week patch basis
lol
the localization and logistic alone w/o any content would take other studio 6 months.
You have to be a neet or play no other games to keep up with all of the content, I’ve been playing since day 1 but am still at least a month behind due to work.
I saw people finish it in one day. Safe to assume even casually it won't take you more than a week. If you are behind then you straight up arent playing the game
commissions and resin spending is like 10 minutes max
then maybe 10-20 for whatever event is going on. That gives you an easy 30 minutes if you're playing an hour to do some quests
no. you could be playing an actual single player game that is good.
but you choose chink faux-mmo gatcha dogshit instead.
you are what's wrong with gaming.
>played since launch day
>well "played"
>literally never even got to liyue in the story
>just get the welkin pass and do dailies sometimes
>ar33
my units are pic related and my notable consetellations are
>c2 diluc
>c2 albedo
>c3 noeru
>c6 sucrose
>c6 diona
>c6 fish
>c5 benny
>c6 xiang
i only have 3 5 star weapons
>ayatos sword haran geppaku futsu
>lost prayer to the sacred winds book
>skyward spine spear
what do i do with this setup if i want to actually start playing
How much money. There is no way you played that little and got all this shit as f2p or even fake f2p.
That's the average F2P player's account though, anyone can get that much in Genshin without spending.
Not without leaving mondo or at ar33 no
NTA but playing from day one and having welkin up can easily get you that many characters. Plus some folks are just lucker than others.
There is no way someone that is that low AR level and barely plays the game can get all that, being day 1 is meaningless if you dont play every day and I doubt someone that
>literally never even got to liyue in the story
and
>just get the welkin pass and do dailies sometimes
didnt top up at some point. They probably dont even log in every day so welkin means jackshit as well
It's been 3 years since genshin is out. With welkins and some daily commissions you can easily save up enough to roll for them all and have tons left.
The game just had its 2nd anniversary three months ago.
Welkin every day for 2 years would be 65,700 Primos if you logged in every day.
Dude's only AR 33 and to reach that you need 91,100 EXP total but you only unlock commissions at 12 so that means in actuality getting to 33 would require 88,000 EXP.
If you did all the commissions every day (Let's just make it 200 for the sake of this argument since 12-15 is 175 per quest and 26-35 is 225) for 60 primos a day you would earn 1,000 EXP a day (4 quests = 800 + the 200 from Kathyrine) meaning you would be AR 33 in 88 days give or take a few days. This means he would have only had to have ever played the game for around 88 days worth of commissions and it would mean every time he logged in he'd only do one commission every other day in order for that to even make any sense.
88 days x 60 primos = 5,280 Primos. So in total he would have 70,980 Primos which is only 443 pulls.
Since he seems to have barely done Mondo you can discount a lot of the Primos and pulls around the world, but let's give him like 60 more for free for the argument. 503 pulls is 6 5* if you hit 80 every time. Dude has 13 5*s AND three 5* weapons. Do you realize the amount of luck that would require without you topping up on Genesis Crystals outside of that? It would take thousands of dollars.
Oh, and I forgot to factor in that Mondo's main story would get you to around level 20+, it's unavoidable so in reality you'd have to do even less commissions than that for it to make any sense.
>meaning you would be AR 33 in 88 days give or take a few days
I started playing 10 days ago. Play around 3 hours per day. Already AR32.
Also there are like 30 quests in my questlog, if I did all them I bet it would go to AR40 (including comissions I'd finish on the way)
>i want to actually start playing
The game is the story and the exploration, just do the quests. You don't need special characters to do any of it and there's no difficult content.
Do you have autism? Not even trying to joke but you seem to have some kind of autism.
>spends money on something he's doesn't play
>f2p btw 🙂
you're pathetic here is your reddit upvode
You must be the most autistic person I've seen since my brother who played the first 30 levels of WoW with every classes for 2 years.
are you ready for the genshin anime?
Don't care for anime any more, so no.
>Story is absolute dogshit outside of Liuye because China nombah wan
>waifus are good but all wear granny panties and have breast reductions (excellent feet if you're into that, though)
>gameplay is ass, and forces you to grind even after you pay money
>the honeymoon period was amazing if you played at launch
>rewards are nonexistent
>no actual endgame outside of spiral abyss which is a joke
>can't have a better map/home base/framerate/anything because this is still a mobile game
>events are anti-gameplay and time gated
>pedophilic tumblr refugee playerbase is homestuck levels of cancerous
>music is great
Overall 7/10 because it still manages to keep my attention somehow.
>Liuye because China nombah
Did you not see how their are a ton abandoned villages and ghosts/monsters running rampant?
>Mondstadt has Stormterror and Dragonspine, both are completely solved and irrelevant now so they just have a random festival about alcoholism every now and then
>Inazuma has GOVERNMENT BEURACRACY, dead yokai that did nothing more than terraforming the islands, and negative stereotypes of the Japanese through a Chinese lens, both of which are also solved
>Enkonomiya is already solved and abandoned
>Sumeru has bouncy plants and Candace's delicious toes instead of actual lore
Meanwhile we've had like 7 different lore drops from Liuye specifically and we are still expanding on the Giuli assembly currently.
>Enkonomiya is already solved and abandoned
We are 100% going back they added a new mob there, and you clearly haven’t did the golden slumber in Sumeru or the other quests after that plus the ararararara guild has a ton of lore. Are you even exploring bro?
Meant to post this guy
It's a shame these enemies are so rare and only exist in certain places. I wouldn't mind fighting them as common enemies.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we fight a ton of them in Khaenri'ah but going probably have to wait for 7.0 or 8.0 for that
I dont think that means we're going back there, Dain is getting a new quest new patch they will probably show up there.
Mondstadt is getting an expansion in the future too, it was part of the great leak.
link?
>all those negative points
>still 7/10
IGN?
Most other games are dogshit nowadays, so being able to just tick the boxes by doing the bare minimum is now considered good.
your standards are so laughably low
Yeah bro I should just go play Soulsboune games exclusively like all patricians do on this board.
Sucks for you anon but I have been playing from day -1 and still enjoy the game
>Story is absolute dogshit outside of Liuye because China nombah wan
I fully agree Mondstadt story is boring but do you really like the Liyue story better than Inazune and Sumeru???? Who thinks this?
Someone with shit taste
>waifus are good but all wear granny panties and have breast reductions
they're censored AND they're badly written
hence, the waifus are not good
would be good if they allowed for creative gameplay elements like BOTW's physics and interactions
but because its made for the phone, literally never will have good gameplay or in any way challenging or good interactions in the open world
It is sobering to pop into one of these threads and see what goes on in the mind of the average gacha addict. There should be laws to protect people from themselves and wasting their time and money on an addiction like this
>the average gacha addict
Most players spend less than a monthly MMORPG subscription
>moving goalposts
this is how you can tell the chink has nothing in his defense
not him but i opted for the 5 dollar pack this month because they are giving out a ton of stuff and freebies for checking in daily and doing events
thats first time i spent any money in the game in like 6+ months, and gacha is rarely something you roll on, you save for months until a char you actually want releases
cope and seethe, youve been shilling loot crates in your games for the past 15 fricking years kid. and western devs push their loot crates front and center, now its battle pass . and it costs a lot more money to instantly max a battle pass than it ever did to buy some few loot crates
>because they are giving out a ton of stuff and freebies for checking in daily and doing events
They are giving you 10 rolls and some resin. The same thing as last chinese new year, and the one before that, and the same shit as for anniversary. How is that "a ton"?
>cope and seethe
>as he tries to pin a imaginary narrative on me because he can't confront me otherwise
>imaginary narrative
okay, yeah, western games totally dont have cash shop first, gameplay second. they dont all have battle passes
cope some more
and since you arent ignorant about the game youre just like ironically trying to shitpost the game
>10 rolls
yeah and to get those rolls you need to check in repeatedly
and the event where you choose whatever 4 star you want
and the crown
and the free whatever else from the event
you're just an idiot. its literally their most generous time of the year. stop coping
>and the event where you choose whatever 4 star you want
same as every chinese new year
>and the crown
same as every other event
>and the free whatever else from the event
What else? Is there anything else at all? Or you just making shit up? Cope, setthe etc you angry shill. You don't have the balls to even discuss this joke of a game seriously without trying to pivot to another topic
Shut the frick up, I don’t care what you think and will keep playing the game. Stop wasting your time and go find a video game you like to play.
>please stop calling out my shitty mobile game, it makes me angry
Nah. Do you actually enjoy the game, or are you just paid to advertise it here?
Again I do not care what you think, are you too stupid to get that nothing you says matter?
here comes the sockpuppet army
I’m in your walls
I hope you suffocate
>you can get yaoyao
oh wow, a free liyue 4*, same as every chinese new year. The fact that Yaoyao just came out doesnt make it any more special
>no, you get crowns rarely
you dont even play the game you defend
>i dont know homosexual why dont you go look it up
And this only proves it further
>literally just a vg gay making a thread here
oh that explains your brain damage and middle-school level discussion skills. You are a straight up underage sperg
I will take all your cheese and your left sock
NTA
>Free 4*
They gave Xinqu away at Irodori 2.6 too. Nothing special, but still free char/constelation.
>Crowns
You can get crowns from Frostbearing Tree, Tree of Dreams, Sacred Sakura and Lumenstone Adjuvant.
From exploring/puzzles/chests and domains.
Crowns are from events or the sigil turn in trees. No puzzles or domains have ever given a crown.
Forgot to add that to the post I wrote. Sorry.
Still, grind sigils to turn to crowns.
I paid them to give me a game worth shilling for and will continue to do so. Now frick off.
your first line you're just fricking wrong, you can get yaoyao. so you're willfully trying to lie to further your point which refutes yourself and makes your argument invalid. you're just delusional
>same as every event
no, you get crowns rarely
>what else
i dont know homosexual why dont you go look it up, im not spoon feeding your dumb Black person ass
god damn you're just a lying little homosexual
>WAH WAH SHILL WAH WAH SHILL!!!111111
literally just a vg gay making a thread here, like every other general thread that gets shit on v
stop being a stupid little fricking Black person
Genshin Impact is not your normie gatcha. It's an AAAA (yeah 4 A) game in term of quality and respect of the players. And it's fricking free.
AAA is the definition of trash nowadays so at least you admit the game is bad
Yes, this is literally the most perfect online game/game as a service.
High quality art, music and animation. Everything is playable for free and whales finance the game. Feedback system with survey every update is the best in the industry.
I'm guessing they have an insanely good middle management team because releasing that much content every 6 weeks in a software company in EU or US (even in Japan/Korea) is almost impossible due to agile bullshit. I don't know how Mihoyo is handling it. It also has almost no bug which is a feat for a triple A game in 2023. It doesn't have competitive gameplay (PVE leaderboard or PVP) so the community isn't as toxic as in a MMORPG.
I consider anyone who trash on Genshin either moronic, ignorant or american. This game does so many things better than other games in the industry. Not to say it doesn't have flaws; shit camera, bad new player experience, lack of many QOL features, story and lore tied to limited events, technical compromise due to the game being playable on mobile...etc
But the qualities largely overshadow the flaws.
I'd even go as far as saying Genshin made me re-think the whole gacha business model. I think every AAA game should have gacha if it's as well implemented as in Genshin. It basically make it a free game crowdfunded by rich people. It's Star Citizen if Star Citizen didn't take 40 years to release.
Anyway, happy Lantern Rite!
I dont trust other companies to implement gacha systems and not be excessively greedy. Genshin being entirely too generous and having safeguards against spending big money and focusing on long term profits over short term gain is something most companies are not able to do since they lack self control. Not to mention how their content scheduling every 6 weeks is insane in the industry, just about every company out there already struggle with putting out skins let alone content like genshin does.
This.
This anon gets it. Its not a gacha game but a game that happens to have a gacha system in it.
A gacha system that makes a ton of money which is relevant to the quality of the game as it is clearly being reinvested into it.
>lantern rite
Liyue events are kino.
>Liyue events are kino.
not with the shitty writing and hours of miserable dialogue they're throwing at you
I like them and that’s all that matters
I love how morons like you make walls of text like it claiming like Genchink its the second coming of christ and the future of gaming when its a literal corporate product cynically designed to make money with grindy asiatic mmo gameplay(but without the social element of mmos that people actually enjoyed), generic waifus, generix "pretty" landscapes, generic "anime" music and god-awful story and writing thats very much cynically aware weebs will accept any garbage and have zero standards
Genchin is literally the essence of whats wrong with modern gaming... BUT CHINESE, so it gets a pass apparently
Genshin is fine
Show me where the Genshinlike games are if it's so generic. Bonus points if they're western.
>redditor had to change the text from 'Read homie, Read' to not offend the tiny big brother who lives in his brain
don't play genshin just wanted to stop by and call you a homosexual Black person.
they dont care anon don’t waste your breath
I'm amazed that you're able to write so much text with 0 meaning or argument in it.
>BUT CHINESE, so it gets a pass apparently
Gotta get ready to welcome the future overlords of the gaming industry now that the AAA bubble is bursting in everyone's faces.
Please give me games that are like geshin that I can explore a ton of shit for free
Im a Genshin Player.
Yes its a wall of text and it gets annoying. Its not the second coming of christ. It is a gacha game and it is pandering
to people who like anime. I would argue that the Co-op in GI is usless and I turn off invites to join my worlds.
An MMO it ain't, not even close. The story is predictable or its predictable on how it would end. The music is hit or miss, some of the covers from Hoyofair are decent.
>Modern Gaming
I know. But it dosen't get a pass from everyone. For example you, you will never play it due to your stated reasons and that is fine.
>China
Im aware. Compared to Western shit, it better imo. Im not trying to antagonize you.
It's genuinely sad you are praising this garbage when it made a hundred thousand trillion dollars yet the devs can't be bothered to improve any of its shitty flaws for the past three years. Enjoy your shitty event drip and weekly chores
>weekly chores
Don't worry anon, I spend more time cooking meals than doing "chores" in Genshin
have you considered doing something better in your free time than wasting one to two hours every week on virtual chores?
I had no idea this place had this many shills. Genshin is a good free single player story game but its endgame and multiplayer is total dogshit even after all these years. Why do gays defend a time waster like Genshin when the devs barely care enough to improve the experience? Makes no sense why you morons get mad when people point out Genshin's dogshit aspects.
>have you considered doing something better in your free time than wasting one to two hours every week on virtual chores?
NTA. I'm not gonna stop doing what I like because you don't like it, Black person. Cope.
Playing genshin and posting waifus online isn't a personality. Nobody told you to stop playing idiot. We just pointed out that the game is shit and sabotages itself in many regards. Anyone who adamantly defends it deserves to be made fun of for enjoying the taste of shit.
Its a gacha, of course it does sabotages players in terms of time.
Opinions aren't facts, my seething Black friend.
go back dumb Black person
Notice how whenever a genshin thread appears on Ganker, dozens of shills come out of the woodwork to put it on a pedestal? Who wants to bet they are employees?
Yes, I am Mihoyo employee. Thank you for your support. We will continue to do our best and provide the best gaming experience for you!
Some of the shit I said :
The game is not perfect. Art is good, music is hit or miss, animation 50% reused for convos 50% cutscenes.
The fast updates are impressive, but Hoyo makes millions so the pressure is on to make "cantent".
>Community
Ha, less toxic. Good one.
>I consider anyone who trash on Genshin either moronic, ignorant or american.
Don't be a braindead /gig/er/shill/genshingay anon, some people draw the line at China spyware and gacha for a good
reason.
>Whale for the F2P
That is for the majority of gacha games. Genshin got lucky and it blew up.
>Lanter Rite
The music cutscene was cringe.
>Ha, less toxic. Good one.
People don't get kicked of their group after 1 pull because the dps rushed the pack of monster before the tank because he has 3 kids and 5 jobs so he has to finish the dungeon in 15mn
People don't tell you they fricked your mom because you died to a player better than you.
So yeah, competition, be it PVE or PVP, breeds toxicity and Genshin was able to avoid that
In game. Of course. Outside? Lol.
If you didn't finish anything like I did in the patch. Still it a grind for a F2P.
Its tiring.
Why do you care about what people talk about on social media but don't care about the people who you have to play with in-game?
Im just saying that genshin fans are Sonic tier homosexuals.
Thats all.
>I think every AAA game should have gacha if it's as well implemented as in Genshin.
I too want shitty copy pasted models, particle effects, and content gated behind either a pay wall or grinding and waiting for months. I hate what this game has done to you gambling addicts.
>Do you like the design philosophy of Genshin Impact?
Yes, very much so. It quickly became one of my favorite games. The real mmo experience in 2023 (actually since 2009) is just shitty. Gaming is too mainstream now and the companies have given too much freedom, especially the freedom to be a moron and a /misc/tard. The result is a very toxic environment.
>Were you impressed?
Very much so. And I still am. The quality of the design, the gameplay, the story, the lore, the characters, the dialogue and the music.
>Do you hope for more games like this?
No, that won't happen. Genshin Impact is one of the legendary games, a revolution in this industry. It doesn't happen often.
gacha is predatroy and evil
I wish I could increase my world difficulty now that I'm AR 60. Just make the enemies level 100 or even 95.
It's really good that Mihoyo is able to make old regions relevant with events and shit.
I remember when playing WoW, basically 99.99% of the playerbase were in the latest big city like Shatrah and Dalaran. It was a raid-only lobby waiting simulator. The only people who went back in previous zones were the achievement hunters
was not impressed. each charecter has only about three abilities you can use at any given time. It visually it looked impressive but world seems heavily inspired from botw. Which can be good thing or bad thing i guess. From my understanding no dungeons or arena where i can experience gameplay with other players. Felt like a well done mobile game.
Look at this and tell me it's not pure Kino. Your "gatcha" and other AAA games pale in comparison.
It looks good. Some things to keep in mind:
>Comes from China, has Vanguard-esqe anti cheat
>Gacha game
>Events, even if they have lore are time limited so you are fricked if you missed them
>Wanna ascend a character? Grind materials!
>Wanna ascend a weapon? Grind domains! Oh, and some materials are locked at certian days! JOY!
>Wanna get artifacts? Grind domains and succumb to tard rage for the shit stats!
>Wanna grind bosses? You have limited resin and boss limit weekly.
>Dawei is a Black person
>Some World Quests are Wall of texts broken up
>Mondstad is good
>Liuye is better
>Inazuma sucks
>Sumeru is great
>Chasm is meh
>Enankomiya is shit
>Sumeru's desert is better with the 3.4 update
>See Scaraanon 2 saving pull results
>The fandom is shit
>/gig/ is full of fujos and pedos
Great game!
>Enankomiya is shit
Its boring.
Good for you anon.
Chasm is better than Enankomiya imo. Didn't rush through it, but left if for Sumeru and
I came back after exploring the desert waiting for 3.4.
>limited resin
Sucks for newbies because I have 100+ of them
>Chasm is meh
I'd argue chasm was one of the best, but if i was speedrunning it most the charm would be lost. good for casuals probably, bit of a pain in the ass for anyone rushing things.
>/g*g/ is full of
that places issue is just mental wellness in general, regardless of label. It reads like someone unleashed a horde of bots on it at times but sadly i think its just people who are that messed up, that needy for attention.
>design philosophy
Yes, but i wish we had a bit of co-op on a regular basis even if just by events. When i started i thought it would have dungeon crawlers and raids, it may be better that it isn't chained to that sort of grindy bullshit like Korean MMOs but doesn't mean i don't want to ever fool around with randoms, even if its some bullshit like boat racing or that space invaders stuff we had a bit ago. there should always be something like that going. tcg helps but i like running around with others in the game world best
>co-op on a regular basis
Frick you. Forced co-op is cancer, frick windtrace and that boat minigame from last summer event.
I'm so happy the current boat event has a single player mode so I don't need to interact with filthy randoms.
Genshin is a single player game, I completely refuse to ever use the co-op function in any way.
>boat minigame
That was fun
The co-op would be legendary if it was full co-op so you could go through the whole game together with a bro or three, diablo 2 style. But it's not, and as you said, forcing it is shit. FRICK WINDTRACE
Shut the frick up b***hes, now look at this tamed gator
>Do you enjoy Genshin Impact's design philosophy
I thoroughly enjoy their adult male with e-girl female design philosophy.
>Klee blows up a building
>albedo automatically knows it’s her and comes running
>Alhaitham not with Yaoyao
I disapprove.
Genshin players are an unfortunate breed. You guys never really stood a chance.
Genshin if it was made by a US company
>Base game 70$
>Collector edition is 120$
>Dragonspine 15$ DLC
>Inazuma 40$ expansion
>Enkanomiya 15$ DLC
>Chasm 25$ DLC
>Sumeru 40$ expansion
>New Desert 15$ DLC
>Half the characters are into LGBT stuff for diversity
>The short model type doesn't exist, it is replaced by trans type
>The medium model type doesn't exist and is replaced by a fat model type to represent body positivity movement
>Nahida is black
>Development time to get there is 7 years
>You need to buy 20 books to understand the lore. Each book cost about 20$
>No character gacha, but every character look like shit and you must unlock their skins with lootboxes
>Daily quests and shit take 2h a day instead of 15mn
>Game is buggy as frick
>Game has shit performance but you can use RaYtRaCiNg
>Anniversary edition sold after 2 years
>Ultimate edition sold after 3 years
>Game of the year edition sold after 4 years
>>No character gacha, but every character look like shit and you must unlock their skins with lootboxes
they already look like shit
No
>pre 2.3 uncensored character
They will never ever release a proper girl again
Eula is hot though, I agree, but only in comparison to the other girls "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king'"
awfully covered up for a forest aboriginal
>that’s covered up
Huh?
stop feeding the contrarian moron (you) and post more forest ranger
Genshin Hebepact
>cleavage is censored by some weird night blue painting that looks out of place
>fricking shorts, again
that said Candace is the only acceptable female design to come out post 2.3 with Kuki which is still fricking sad
Layla would've had a shot if they didn't remove her shaders
It's a shame. Part of what made early Genshin fun was how casually horny it was. Ironically, all of the female characters were pretty well written, and in the world of Teyvat almost every person in a position of power was female, but they were also all super cheesecake, with slinky, sexy outfits.
yeah I remember back then after many rerolls that I didn't know which account to keep between Diluc-Venti and Mona-Keqing because the girls just were that hot and anime games with real fricking asses are pretty scarce
it's legit over now, I don't look forward to female chars anymore and I'd rather wait for ZZZ's release I guess, I'm legit considering skipping no-shaders-on-pants Dehya and pulling Alakazam because he's fun
>all of the female characters were pretty well written
everyone of them is a fapbait with 0 personality that instantly likes you...Oh, thats why you think they are well written
But they legitimately did have personalities. The "instantly likes you" think wasn't unique to the female characters, or even to Genshin. It's kind of just the default for any game based around the MC being a "chosen one" of some sort.
I'm not arguing that GI is some literary masterwork, but the idea that Jean, Mona, Raiden, Eula etc. were indistinguishable waifus with zero characterization is silly.
>default for any game based around the MC being a "chosen one" of some sort.
and its shit by default. I'll give you Mona since she at least has the one personality trait of being poor, funny how they tried to retcon it. IIRC theres a line in her profile that goes against what they showed in the summer event
Raiden doesn't have a personality, like at all.
Jean is only memorable because she's the first out of, what, 4 overworked female characters. But for the life of me I can not tell you what her personality is besides
>loves her sister
>acting grandmaster
>overworked
And Eula's entire personality is "I will have vengenace"
There's cardboard cutouts with more depth than genshin characters
>Raiden doesn't have a personality, like at all.
What?
you read that right
I know what I've read I just think you're more moronic that the game's writers.
>I miss my sister, everyone I cared for died
>I like dango
>Green AI generated looking Ganyu
Nilou is pure sex
>oriental dancer with no visible navel
hAHAHAHAHAHA
also diapers
Jeht took it
Would Genshin ever succeed if it went with the WOW model?
I would say no.
No, people would have higher expectations, the fact that it's completely free means you can't have much.
>The short model type
It's called the "e-girl" type in the game files.
I do wish there was more opportunity to do multiplayer, but keep it optional like it is now. Something like more longer form dungeons with a difficulty level similar to level 90 weekly bosses. Built to be soloed by a max leveled team but is easier in multiplayer.
It's kinda shit. It's monotonous, repetitive busywork all centered around grinding and grinding and grinding because the game is extremely stingy with decent rewards. It's a singleplayer ARPG except it ruins everything good about singleplayer ARPGs and turns the game into a chore to play and keep up with.
The only people who enjoy it are masochists and addicts.
It's predatory and disgusting.
My dream game has always been single player world of Warcraft with optional drop in multiplayer for dungeons and raids.
Basically Guild Wars but WoW.
It's a single player game, straight up.
ToF actually fulfills that niche (comfy exploration and routine but in a world with other real players) and is generally just better than Genshin in every way
that looks so bad. No wonder it flopped.
cope
Didn’t ToF shills die out? You should be shilling Dragon Sword (dragon nest2)
Why would I shill another trash botw clone?
Because if you like BOTW wouldn’t you want more like it?
I have no interest in botw or any of it's clones, I don't have the part of my brain missing that makes me enjoy single player npc worlds
Why the frick are you here then? Surely you have better uses of your time than to be in a thread about a game type you don’t like? Unless you have some kind of autism
This thread is about MMOs, try reading the OP?
>why are you talking about genshin but an MMO in a thread shilling genshin as an MMO
lmao ok
>mmo
only morons play mmo as is. This thread is about genshin impact, the first of its own genre.
What genre? There's nothing original about it. It's a fricking gacha game that at best has the gameplay of a asiatic MMO... but without the actual MMO part and only with asiatic grind. The fact it gets shilled so hard here only proves how hard this website has fallen.
>stop talking about video games on the video games board!
/gig/ is right there if you want an echo chamber morons
Yes it was about that but the posts have evolved pass the shitty op
I just tried to look up what new units have been added to Tower of Fantasy since I stopped playing it and TWO websites in the top results have stopped providing updates.
I don't think I've ever seen that before. You'd at least expect them to drop down in results, but I guess no one's taken over.
Wouldn’t be surprised if global ToF would hit eos sooner or later. Damn shame because I wanted to give it a try but hearing about how un fun it is never got me to try it
toweroffantasy.info is constantly updated and just got a redesign, kind of sounds like you're just making shit up
Yeah any day now lmfao
>TOF
>Cyber City Update
Is it good?
I played the Tutorial so im for the long run.
I think so, it looks really nice and there's a lot of new side content like fishing and racing
All live service games revolve around some sort of carrot on a stick, gachas are successful because new characters with new gameplay, new voicelines etc. is simply a more enticing carrot than anything else you could possibly come up with.
I played Genshin religiously for like a year and a half, got up to AR 59, but over the past year or so everytime I open it and try to play my body just shudders.
I would still say without hesitation that it's a great game, well worth playing, but you absolutely can't play it daily. You should come back every 6 weeks when an update releases, play the new content for a week or so, maybe login for events after all of the content has been unlocked, but doing dailys will slowly drive you mad.
There is absolutely no reason to play Genshin religiously, and you will probably turn into a /gig/ gaytron if you do that. I just wait for a new country or a new interesting character (that isn't a glorified assist button) to come out to pick it up again for a few weeks.
Yea genshin is a nice sub game that you explore new zones then play something different when you’re done.
Gotta agree with you. Wait till the monthly update drops, play the
main story quests, play the events and leave.
>Massive world
>Huge new zones added every couple of months
>All funded by whales
>Meanwhile Tendies have been waiting 10 years for a few floating islands in a $60 expansion pack
Yeah I think this is probably the way forwards.
it's always the same content though
you forgot your trip Victor
And Sumeru's exploration has more content than all other regions combined
I don't really even care about the area expansions anymore, it's not like the game is changing meaningfully, it's the same cookie cutter puzzles and running around opening chests for 2 gems. I've been doing that for two years
Dumb cat with shit tastes
Basically this, I had far more fun playing Elden Ring 2 times, than doing Sumeru's zones once.
Yeah I'm in this weird maintenance mode where I still follow the game and "keep up" with it, get gems etc., but I'm in no kind of hurry to rush out and play the expansions as soon as they drop. Would rather play other games
>Tendies have been waiting 10 years for a few floating islands in a $60 expansion pack
It will still sell 20 million on brand name alone. Seethe.
Actual MMOs cope by making the other players provide content so yes it's based
>design philosophy
Oh you mean "milking as much money our of normies and autistic morons with a game that looks kinda like BOTW and contains mass-produced generic wafus"?
>single-player MMO
LMAO Love how you don't realize how moronic and undeserving of praise this is. If anything, Genchink is a typical grindy, shallow asiatic MMO but without any of the fun of actually playing a MMO
>mobile game made by a greedy company >:(
>mobile game made by a greedy company... BUT CHINESE =○
>mmo
>fun
lol
lmao even
Yeah, the gameplay of MMO isn't fun. What was fun for people has always been the social aspect and seeing all these people in the same world, from their invention MMO's were like "second life" (ha) for people.
"Single player mmo" isn't something praise worthy because you're taking out the only element that really attracted people to MMO's to the first place and leave the miserable grind associated with them.
Genshin is a single player, open world, allways online, BOTW-like gacha game with Co-op slapped to it for
events, domains, bosses and some russian stealing you sakura leaves. Thats it.
>open world
>always online
>microtransactions
>grind
>constant obnoxious shilling for years
So the essence of all that is wrong with gaming... BUT CHINESE. Thanks for explaining.
In a nutshell yes. You are welcome.
The fact the only thing the haters can come up with is objectively false things, such as this being pay2win or you being required to spend money in order to progress, is proof of Genshin's success. People literally cannot come up with a valid complaint.
The only valid complaints are from those who play the game and love it like
Its a gacha game. Its designed to milk morons dry. Yeah you can "play for free" but its miserable and grindy and the game keeps dangling candy in front of your face. Besides you morons keep switching between "its free" and "LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY ITS MAKING"
Wow what a moron!
Funny because the grind, which is pretty minimal all things considered, only comes from getting new characters and leveling/equipping them. If you just stay with the same f2p team the game literally has no grind.
>the game has no grind if you don't progress and don't touch most of the content
What was that supposed to prove
Getting characters isn't progressing, you can clear the entire game with just 4*
>only using a small percentage of the characters isn't progressing
He is right, however you might not be able to do the Higher Abyss
floors, which for some players is quite the chunk so they can DMG-measure and fast clear.
Some Story missions are level locked.
and missions unlocked with keys that FYI you must grind daily for 2 days to get 1 key.
You can lower your World Level (aka lowering enemy level/boss level).
Why can't you understand this? The game has a good business model where 1% of the playerbase finances the game for the rest of the 99%.
I am a light spender (only ever purchase the pass) and I couldn't spend more even if I wanted to. You'd need to throw top dollar at this game to get just a couple of extra pulls. You'd need to throw $100+ to get progress that you can make over 1 week f2p. I literally googled "how to spend at genshin" and there is no remotely sane way to do it. So no, the game does not "keep dangling candy in front of your face", the game literally doesn't pressure me to spend anything at all. I have no idea how a game like this manages to make so much money. Maybe it simply is that good.
>this game doesn't make you spend money in any way!!!
>but it still makes millions somehow!!!
Mhm. And I bet your "light spending" is the price of several AAA games for what's just a single player asiatic mmo.
Why do you care how people choose to spend their money? Are you a child or a communist?
Because you spending money encourages all the suits in the industry that this is what people want you stupid son of a b***h
Suits have already been doing that, have you not seen the yearly sports games that cost $70, with season passes, lootboxes, and added p2w so the game ends up costing $300+. You can’t just half ass copy genshin impact and expect to make billions like it.
This has been explained again and again and again and again but for some reason you anti-genshin moron don't want to hear it.
90% of the playerbase are F2P players. 9% pay 5€ monthly. 1% pay between 100€ and 50000€
So yes, the game doesn't make you spend money to be playable and it is still able to make millions because 1% of 100 millions players is still 1 millions players
And 90% of players have to cope and wade through miserable grind to accomplish what someone else can have just with a loose vallet.
Anonymous what are you accomplishing in genshin impact? You’re playing a single player game 99% of the time. Your argument makes zero sense for genshin and more sense for a p2w grinding mmo.
You can't really grind in this game even if you wanted to. Paying non-absurd amounts of money just gets you more waifus and their signature weapons, and that's pretty much it.
>anti-genshin moron
imagine shilling for a gacha company for free
Yea whales and dolphins make the game a ton of money so millions of other players can play it completely free. What is their to get upset about?
>why are you upset that people whale for this game and make suits see that all gaming standards against live service and in-app purchases go into the trash if you make it look bright, cutesy and "anime"
That has already been a thing for years, you’re clearly a newbie if you think genshin being big just started to draw attention to it for suits.
>gaming
>standards
LOL comeonnow.jpg
There has been no such thing in the west in over a decade.
Genshin becoming mega popular had made the westoid AAA wokies have a mental breakdown because all of a sudden they are losing billions of shekels to it and can no longer control the narrative.
Only beautiful males and females? No token PoC(tm)??? YOUNG GIRLS INSTEAD OF LE STRONK ROASTIE ?! And best of all it came from the Chinese of all people - the ultimate threat to the western globohomosexual status quo.
All these factors combined are responsible for the never ending screeching about Genshin - and it makes me happy.
I don't know why Genshin players try to push this narrative that 99% of their playerbase is f2p, it really sucks without the welkin and even then not many people aren't going to not spend more than that
>$100+ to get progress that you can make over 1 week f2p
that's what, 70 rolls? You get 70 rolls of income as a week as f2p? More like 5 if there's an event, lmfao.
>it really sucks without the welkin
Anon the welkin is $5. I am a light spender, I use the welkin + the pass (which is $10 but you don't buy it monthly)
>not many people aren't going to not spend more than that
You literally can't spend more even if you want to
>that's what, 70 rolls?
35
>you get 35 rolls as f2p?
Without including one-time only primos (quests, chests, achievements, hangouts, etc), which are the main source of primos for new players, you can get 80 rolls per patch with only welkin+pass.
You'd need over $200 to get twice as many rolls. Only whales do that.
>80 rolls per patch
so around 13 a week. So that's 3 weeks to get $100 worth of rolls, not even a days work. Even with Genshin's shit rates it's extremely rewarding to spenders, $100 on Lost Ark a f2p can easily grind in a day. I'm sure there are a lot of f2p players but it's not even close to 99% or even 90%.
>$100 on Lost Ark a f2p can easily grind in a day
Anon you're sabotaging yourself by advocating for shit like Lost Ark. That game straight up locks QoL away from you if you don't spend. It can't get more predatory than that.
First off you can always buy that QoL with gold you grind in game, second I'm not advocating Lost Ark, I'm comparing how much resources you get by spending to a classic p2w asiatic grinder if you want to make the argument "it's literally not letting me spend more"
> I have no idea how a game like this manages to make so much money
Waifus.
He’s still right about gacha being designed to bait the wallets of morons.
yaoyao CUTE
Good morning and a happy new year to my chinese plum blossom walnut wife, Hu Tao, whom I love!
hnnnnggg y-you too
There is a coop achievement for having three players sit in the thrones in the eternal oasis apparently.
Why are there so many chinks and chink puppets on Ganker?
They're staying rent free in the muttoid's cranial cavity.
Are they really when they're actively infesting the board with their shit nonstop?
It literally can't be an MMO when you can't interact with more then 3 other people at a time. That's like saying Call of duty is an MMO just because it has online features.
Wonder what will happen when they meet
I hate how they keep showing cute girls that are dead and never coming back, same with Ei's friends and the yakshas.
Bonanus my beloved.
I bet they will be playable in Star Rail and maybe ZZZ, just like how Honkai's wheelchair-chan got her legs back and became playable in other mihoyo games.
WHY DIDN'T YOU PROTECT HER, ZONG!?
>Guizhong
>Havria
>the Yakshas
>Azhdaha
Zhongli turning out to be a failure god really turned me around on his character, since I didn't care too much about him in the archon quest.
He only really failed with Guizhong. Havria was just another god in the war, the yakshas were just soldiers and Azhdaha lost it because alzheimers Zhong couldn't do shit about it.
Erosion? I remember Ei wanted to uphold Inazuma's Eternity to avoid
that.
Yeah, all gods get eroded with time which is why Zhong stepped down before he loses it too. Apparently Ei can prevent it by staying inside her blade though.
And venti prevents it by getting incredibly drunk and passing out for centuries at a time. So the solution to the problem that weighs on all of these immortals is "dude, just fricking sleep."
So is erosion connected to mental health? Or do other factors affect it? Like something from
the Abyss?
No full idea yet but guessing it just something that happens no matter how powerful someone is.
At least Ping, Cloud Retainer, Mountain Shaper, Moon Carver are still alive.
He hasn't killed them yet.
It's pretty upsetting to know being a Yaksha is just a straight-up death sentence, and Zong just didn't seem to care about doing something about that. Meanwhile, Venti saved an insane dragon from something that is way too similar.
Friendly reminder that we anime now.
>no Loom
trash
soon
genshin would be fun if it wasn't a gacha, being stuck playing a handful of characters you don't like while old characters you do like become 100% unobtainable because of rng is the opposite of fun, this goes for 99% of gachas most of them are better than standard mobile games but I'm not going to play some rng fest where I never know if I will be able to obtain a character or not
just save your shit so you can guarantee characters when their banners pop up
I'll just not play at all, you missed the part where I said they're more fun than your average mobile game they still don't touch normal games, I'll just go play a real jrpg where the characters aren't locked behind gambling, there's literally no reason you should have to pick and choose which characters you get instead of just having them all
>All live service games revolve around some sort of carrot on a stick
Justifying gambling is good because it gives you a sliver of a chance to unlock something new is peak modern consumerism, go buy a standard jrpg and you own everything, you pay a price and you play the game, you don't gamble and hope you get something
what's the difference between ignoring characters in genshin and ignoring characters in say ff6
I don't know about genshin but tof is submit 110 rolls=receive character gauranteed and you don't roll until you can buy the character.
Genshin is 180 rolls with extremely bad luck and I mean like 1% unlucky
isn't it theoretically possible to never get the character if you keep resetting pity?
No, you will get a character because pity carries over on banners. So if you miss the 1st 50/50 you will 100% get the banner character and pity never goes away
But doesn't pity reset if you get another 5*?
At the 90th roll you are guaranteed a 5* who has a 50% chance of being the banner
Rolling outside the banner will reset pity back to 1, but once you reach pity again it's guaranteed to be the banner character
if you're rolling on a character banner you're either going to get that specific character or one of the standard 5* characters. If you get a standard 5* character the next 5* character is guaranteed to be that banner's character. So unless you roll on the wrong banner because now we have 2 character banners running at the same time (which share the same pity counter) you'll get that character.
after you lose a 50/50 on character banner the next 5* is guaranteed to be that character
What does "resetting pity" even mean? Pity carries over from banner to banner, you can't not get a promoted character in 180 consecutive rolls, no matter across how many banners you do roll.
>ToF shills going full force
kek
Yanfei is the hottest Genshin.
I just did the Chasm story quest and it sealed the deal for her being my event 4star pick.
I got the funny glass plant guy from my first 10 roll on his wish and to be honest 5 stars are bullshit stat wise. This dude's half the level of my other dudes but is wailing on enemies just as well if not better than them
The game purely sucks cause it's main means of getting things you like relies solely on RNG. Back then even in some of the "grindy" MMOs you can eventually just save up enough currency to get a said thing via trade or other means without having to deal with FOMO or anything of the sort and said content remains relatively easy to acquire.
This doesn't even go into the playerbase which seems to prioritize on caring more about the fanservice characters which function more as a carrot-on-a-stick rather than trying to make anything valuable. It doesn't matter how the game plays, all gacha games will use some variant of trying to dangle some sort of bait to players to get them to grind endlessly for a CHANCE to get something you want or spend money "just to be sure"
Genshin grind is very tame and has so many tools to finding mats that it’s very easy to get stuff.
>
>can eventually just save up enough currency to get a said thing via trade or other means without having to deal with FOMO or anything of the sort and said content remains relatively easy to acquire.
You obviously don't play this game or you would understand that Genshin is no different. The characters have re-runs and the gatcha guarantees you will get them within 160 pulls. You can easily save that currency by playing casually and for free. This is what most people do, and have fun doing.
The difference is it doesn't give you the instant gratification dopamine you desire, as it is a long term play, and if you can't cope with that you either don't play because it's not your type of game (good answer), become a paypig because you have excess funds to blow on something you like (neutral answer), or become a paypig even though you're a neet (brainlet answer).
Protip: Calling someone who is arguing your points a shill is twitter-tier. Perhaps you'd feel more welcome "discussing" there
No, it has some good things like great exploration and music.
But the rest is actually awful:
>Bad Story content
>Horrible writing
>Really limited gameplay mechanics due to mobile version (no air combat, only 2 skills per character, basically only 1 button to attack)
>Bland as frick boss battles (cubes, plants, and the rest have something moronic to waste your time doing nothing like the wolf running around in circles)
>Endgame is non existent
>Card game is barebones
>Most of your game time will be towards doing daily quests and spending resin
>All girls get censored nowadays ruining their designs, reason why genshin fell off comiket super fast
You gotta have really shit taste to like genshin for more than 2 weeks.
Not even exploration now. Exploration is chained with quests, anything of interest cannot be interacted with until you start the correct mission, so there's no more cool stuff like Liyue's floating picnic area or Mondstadt far away island locations.
>Mondstad
Tutorial nation.
>The rest
Gotta do them Daily Comisions for the keys
homie! Can't unlock SaltAre's domain otherwise.
I hate genshin but yae can get it
>no tail
what's the fricking point
why the frick does a game like genshin need shill posters on Ganker? they truly do have too much money than they know what to do with
Anything but the game apparently
Fujos
sunk-cost fallacy gives them the urge to justify playing the game
Let's say you have a cake and you really like that cake. It's the best cake you've ever eaten in your life. You spent 25 years eating cake and this is the final form.
Then some anonymous morons on a indian funded japanese forum tells you they didn't taste the cake or they just ate the strawberry on top of it and it's disgusting.
I'll be a shill all day, I'm retired I have the time
ive been playing since launch and yet i don’t get offended when people say its gachashit because it is. i have no reason to defend a company that does not give a shit about me and neither do you.
Genshin player here as well.
You can shit on it and you should.
60NCIDW
If genshin is the best game you ever played in your life then that sounds like a you problem. Sad even. The game is decent but incredibly mediocre in many ways which would be fine if the developer didn't have infinite money and a huge staff. Other people not liking the thing you like, or even just saying it's pretty bad on an anonymous message board isn't worth getting upset over dude. So far the replies I got have been entirely pointless or nonsensical.
Even if you guys are genuine, you end up sounding like falseflaggers trying to making genshin players look bad in the end.
>food analogy
literally end yourself
don't cut yourself in that edge, kiddo
>they just ate the strawberry on top of it
>it gets good after 200 hours bro
I don't really disagree with your point overall but this is how you make someone REALLY hate a game. Some people just don't like cake and they don't need to eat the whole thing and puke it back out to prove it.
I say try it, but if you are not convinced look at forum posts, videos etc about the
game to gauge if you are gonna enjoy it. Gacha for some is a deal breaker and so is
its Chinese origin.
>anons having fun and discussing the game in their general
>all of a sudden schizoid /misc/tourists see it on the fromt page
>"T-THE CHINK SHILLS ARE BACK AGAIN! I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FOR MR. SHEKELBERG AND THE WHYTE RACE!"
>incoherent screeching about shills and gamblingbad commences
Every. Time.
The general is fricking unusable don't kid yourself. Every thread on /vg/ eventually degrades into the same stale memes, attention whoring and schizos posting the same shit every thread 10 times a day because they have nothing better to do.
No, this general, here on Ganker.
All genshin posting is usually consolidated in it.
Oh well it's no different it's just less trannies and more pol schizos instead. It's been the same posts for 2+ years.
NTA
>/gig/ is full of memes, fujos, pedos, aether janny and frogposter
I say Ganker is better for game conversation. Or as better as it can be.
>moron posts in thread without reading topic
>automatically considers any Ganker thread about Genshin a general thread
>gets mad when people actually discuss topic
no wonder you play genshin idiot
I think the MMO elements are really badly done and israeli. I find it fun to play with my gf but I feel like the game actively shits on me if I want to play in co-op.
>story missions heavily restrict who you can do co-op with
>arbitrary world level restrictions
>you cannot open chests in another player's world (even though some kind of instance where the game just puts a chest for both players depending on what they unlocked would be fine)
>only one person at a time can collect flowers
It's really annoying sometimes because of the above issues which I think are arbitrary and would take the chinks a really short time to fix.
I disagree about the game being an MMO.
Shit being time/day gated is moronic.
It makes zero sense to me how Gesnhin co-op is still total garbage in 2020+3. My females friends get bothered I don't join them but that's because the game gimps me of doing things I want or need to do in game if I do join. I have no idea how this game got as popular as it did with such a shitty mp.
The MP is hardcoded into the game and can't be changed. They tried improving it over time (It's much better than on release) but it's not possible to fix it in this game. It'll have to be in their next titles.
Because no-one cares about co-op in a single player RPG. Enemy scaling means unless you have absolute shit teams it's always faster and easier to clear domains and bosses, and why would you ever want some random stealing your materials in the overworld?
Go play ToF or some other trash MMO if you want to interact with other people, Genshin is a single player game.
*always faster and easier to clear domains and bosses solo
>no-one cares about co-op in a single player RPG
I care. There's literally no modern co-op RPGs worth playing on the market but I have friends I want to play RPGs with.
Honestly, the story just fricking sucks.
It's the reason why I can't get into the game, the dialogue bores me so much, it puts me to sleep.
why are you gacha addicts so fricking moronic?
I dont care i just care about the pits anon!
Inazuma was a shithole, specially the time gated crap where it took you 1 irl week for a blueprint. Frick you mysterious conch butthole. Frick you praying schizo samurai.
Game for sisssy white bois that want to be plowed by Han ubermensch
I used to play it. You don't need to pay. Skip a few banners and you can guarantee who you want. Constellations and weapons are useless even in endgame content. Abyss 12 is the only "hard" content but you can 33 pretty easily and 36 after grinding
But the game is so boring all you do is open chests and do the same domain over and over. Or if there's an event do a 5 min minigame. The story is okay side missions are better than the main quest though.
Yeah I've had a very easy time saving for the characters I want, because so many of them seem really pointless. When I think about it, I'm kinda just focusing on getting movement abilities which would be there from the start in a normal game, like I'm just rolling for characters which will make the gameplay feel acceptable
I think, in my personal opinion, the france zone better FRICKING deliver or I'm gonna pee on a tree
Keep seething. Genshin won.
dude, that game is boring af
Here's a hot take that only chads understand:
Gambling is fun.
PuritanBlack folk and moralgays btfo *takes shot of vodka*
You literally stole this take from me
At the same time I feel like people's impression of gacha is from Tectone doing 100 pulls then logging off and reacting to youtube. Most people only actually roll like once or twice a month, even whales and even if they're playing the game for hours a day.
Yo yo yo yo yo YO!
>game has the lowest barrier of entry ever
>Gankerermins would rather parrot shitposts all day than playing it for themselves once
as expected
they don't play video games
I can sorta understand, i play genshin myself but if you have people like
that it's da best ting evah! i would be put off aswell.
There's people like that in literally every fanbase on earth. Not sure why you'd get assblasted over that.
And they are unhinged people aswell
Ganker is b***hing about AAA current games and not
playing any game, even the good ones.
>play the game with lowest barrier of entry
>turns out its shit
>not butthurt chinks won't shut up when I tell them its bad
I agree with you. I still enjoy it for what it is.
you know what, I don't get you, in fact I question your sanity. But thats fine
I question it too. Nice talking to ya anon. Cheers!
>he thinks Ganker plays video games
Good one
Isn't the game like 50gb t.third worlder
I'm unhinged
Just dump the hu tao porn already
is the lantern rite epilogue unlocked in asia yet
>Genshin proved that a "single-player" MMORPG experience can be much more fun than traditional MMORPGs
At least MMORPGs at least let me skip the dialogue and parts of the story I don't want to interface with. Genshin seems intent on wasting as much time as possible. God forbid if you take a break and let a bunch of meaningless """side""" quests pile up.
this kills the genshill, this game is literally mediocre at best
Kino.
>venti's dragon and dog given freedom
>zhong's dragon and bear imprisoned
>raiden's dragon and bird killed
what does nahida have and what did she do to them? memory wipe? would the aranara be hers? I bet tsaritsa has enslaved hers to fight for her
nahida did frick all other than watch people jerk off for 500 years
Previous dendro archon had the goddess of flowers and scarlet king but they got killed even before we got there.
Nahida had to kill her mom/self, dude.
Also Scara retconned himself out of Teyvat via Irminsul, so did the OG Dendro
Archon, so Nahida and everyone else can live in peace from Forbidden
Knowlage.
Orabashi wasn't a dragon and it wasn't native to Inazuma
looking at the wiki dvalin isn't from mondstadt
Raiden only has Yae, the rest are just other gods she killed
The more I think about it, the more I think that Inazuma's population was soft.
Ei should've been exiled, Yae either exiled or jailed, the Kujos jailed, The Tri-Commision
dethroned and dissolved. Don't forget that in a way Ei took her own people's memory
and soul for her Eternity.
It's funny how yae just leave the furnace to explode and didn't do the Sakura cleaning. Isn't that her like her only job
Did nothing about the Thunder Sakura either.
"Dude, let's just send a miko who doesn't really know what she's doing to resolve it and heal the trees"
Yae's entire shtick is waiting for someone else to come along and resolve shit for her and then smugly go "just as planned." It's getting old.
yae only wants to chill, eat some fried tofu and promote her novels, leave her be dude
Thundering fury? Wasn't it just two rando adventurers?
The trees on nuclear reactor island. Their upkeep falls under the Narukami Shrine's jurisdiction. And when the treasure hoarders & fatui started fricking with them, she just left it to the same miko she sent into a warzone to keep the island from blowing up altogether.
Oh right the thunder island. Inazuma is such a shithole lmao.
I completely forgot those trees existed.
I don't know enough about the Furnace, haven't played that far.
The Sakura cleansing, yep she has no excuse, but hey we are the isekai errand
boy/girl so we do the puzzles and help the kitsune woman.
There at least should be some consequence to the Shogun, but that is me
expecting too much from Hoyo.
ei didnu nuffin it was the robot pls understand
I know I know, Its just a missed oppurtunity for more post war conflict. What if
the people from Watatsumi do not trust either the Tenryou Commission nor the Shogun to not frick with
their lives. That is all.
Venti>Nahida>Zhongli>Ei
It isn't like the people of Watatsumi have any option. Kokomi hasn't awakened as their divine deity yet and they need to trade with Inazuma because their soil is useless.
I don't think they do at all, even Kokomi is doing some tax evasion shit according to Heizou's hangout
>Kokomi commits tax evasion
I did not like her, but that might change.
Venti = love
He is on top since he at least did something about Dvalin.
Nahida is a child, and was used along the Terminal for mass testing/data harvesting and
creating a god.
>There at least should be some consequence to the Shogun
She's their god, anon.
Too powerful to face consequences, please understand. At least she decided to actually rule herself at the end.
You say that like they can do shit against Ei, the civil war only happened because the government lied to the Shogun about it. If she actually fought it would have been over in 5 minutes.
Rip Liloupar she was a good one, may her racism against sand Black folk never be forgotten.
>Come back to the camp with Jeht and Liloupar in tow
>Go to Babel
>Liloupar"Dance for me, sandBlack person!"
She also suspected the Emirates that were working with the Fatui.
Good racist cum droplets in a bottle.
Liloupar doesn’t trust anyone and knows they are all two faced, only sand monkey did like is Jeht and only after she showed that she cared for us.
Any positives it could have had is completely ruined by the monetization. If they could have had
>Free trial area with a few chapters
>Full game $50-ish
>Alternating free content patches and expansions that add entirely new areas, characters, equipment, quests etc..
I would have given it a go. However, its a ghastly gacha hellscape and loaded with chinese spyware. Frick that.
There's pretty much no reason to play anything else.
Whether that's good or bad depends on the individual.
Nah I gave it a solid first year there isn’t much there anymore besides hype next character rinse and repeat old curse tale of gacha I’ll rather buy indie games or a jrpg
>Current year
>gays are STILL buttblasted that they have to read
I hope mihoyo never caves to the likes of you.
Joke's on you, I don't actually read it, I glance at the first words and then just spam the button to get the next line
I just wish the writing was better, but given the the company founders are a bunch of weebs B-tier anime writing is the best we're ever going to get.
writers are paid by word so they need to pad it as much as possible
>current year
>gays are STILL trying to reel people in with this moronic bait
>here's a 3-page essay about this event's paper play
>also you have to read all of this commission dialogue even though you've done it a dozen times already
otherwise I'm fine with reading
Lol this homie scared of reading, boo homie
Books are nice to read, they actually have interesting writing. This game's writing is just drab. Occasionally there will be a quest with sort of interesting dialogue but 90 percent of the time it's just a bunch of nothing
You could easily cut 2/3 of Paimon's dialogues and it would have minimal to no impact in the story. Most of the time she just repeats exactly what happened in front of you.
That is why in Sumeru 2/3 of her usual "I can't believe that just happened!" dialogues are either cut, moved to floating dialogue post-curscene/mid-gameplay or replaced with MC's silent mental notes. Even Mihoyo knows the little c**t talks too much.
Frick you I love piamon and I think she should talk more
Then go buy a paimon fumo and put one of those "+10 lines when you hug her!" sound chips deep inside the onahole you are planning to put inside of her.
I know this game's playerbase is mostly children but even toddlers don't need Paimon to give them tl;drs every 3 dialogue lines, and I'm glad Mihoyo decided to tone this nonsense down with Sumeru.
I see that you havent actually gone through all of Sumeru
Nah I’m make sure to ask them to give piamon even more space spoken and unspoken lines in the survey
PAIMON N-
igger!
Oi, you don't talk about my wife like that you lazy-eyed, slow reading, son of a b***h.
>What do you mean we have to sing with her? There's no way we can let that on stage!
>I take care of all expenses for your little festival, I get to regale everyone with my lovely voice. Those are the terms we agreed upon!
>Hee hee. Whoops, did I forget to tell you guys?
>Hu Tao I swear to god I'm about to give you more business than you'll know what to do with.
Somebody laugh at my dumb joke.
i don't know who's saying what
I thought I made it clear...
EXPLAIN THE JOKE
It's funny because Dori is bad at singing and has to perform in front of everyone!
I think someone's going to go on a killing spree because she's mad at Hu Tao
>Be mad at a girl
>Increase her income
chink doesn't wanna sing with gudako
Is it a Black person joke because i don't get it
Is it a sex joke because I don't get it
lol thanks for the laugh, dori.
did ppl here really not play the game?
I haven't even started the festival thing, there's still like two weeks left to do it
i was too stupid to get it....
You're not stupid.
Dori was free so I thought it would be easy to understand but I guess if you don't use her at all you wouldn't know about her horrible idle singing.
why do people want a skip button are you playing this for the deep combat lol
Generally when I play a game I'm playing it to play it, not to read about food
Play a different game then, they want you to read and explore. So no point in b***hing about it
I play a lot of games. I just don't understand why people get so upset when people wish the dialogue was better
I think it’s fine
Genshin has the worst kind of dialogue I have ever seen in a videogame.
>he doesn't enjoy the food talk
Filtered
not really, the daily quests are an actual chore compared to most gachashit and it's kind of stingy with the primogems outside of those.
What team are you using for the new area? I only threw this together to make puzzles convenient but I'm surprised how fun burning Faruzan is. She literally melts everything in her path and the damage is constant.
Ayaka for her sprint
Collei for dendro
Kazoo for double jump
Jean for anemo resonance and heals
Isn't it annoying having to switch to pyro for the torches?
raiden and yae for AFK dps (and raiden delete button for fun)
sayu for mobility and heals
tighnari for bow stuff and some quicken reactions
Story and characters are shit.
World is good.
Combat is passable.
Why are genshin hebes so sexy?
>pic not related
No idea why folks call hu tao a hebe, she is just a chestlet
Because she is one?
A short woman who has no breasts, what a pity
I know, she is perfect.
because they're god's gift to mankind
>gay related
Budding hebes
how can hags compete?
It's too late for hags
It's never too late for Fishposting.
what a shitty edit
>18-year old
>budding
how long do girls take to actually be done growing
if it has nudity and sex with anime girls, i'll play it.
thats why I only play skyrim and Genshin on private server
uooohhhh
nahida chan drinking
e-girl hand holding
I am kinda dissapointed that Kuki wasn't there with the rest of Itto's gang.
She is. She's a kunoichi so you can't see her.
Ah so you are coping.
cookie booty
>She's a kunoichi
No she isn't. She's just a girl with a law degree that runs with a gang to spite her family.
Probably hanging out with Yanfei
Yanfei is there with Heizou (?)
liyue's the land with the most waifus, so they had to compensate by importing the excess from the land of homos
MUH
MUH!
>Klee casually bombing Liyue in the background
Mona!
please help her normal business so she doesn't end up doing shady stuff!
She's going to wear her censored outfit in the anime isn't she?
I love when people that pay for FF 14 criticize the spending on gacha game
they’re charging you for opening the game idiots, if you spend the same amount as you do for your subscription on Genshin you would literally have 90% of the characters
I don't play Genshin Impact but I can appreciate what they have done here. I love the character designs and clothing aesthetics. They have a distinct style when it comes to the clothes and colour schemes. I love that they incorporate white pants a lot too which is something uncommon these days. The artstyle in general is great. I love cel-shaded art and Genshin delivers.
Always been a fan of single player MMOs. I like the idea of MMOs but not the actual grind of trying to catch up to one. I've been playing Monster Hunter since the first PS2 game and really like what the newest titles are doing with the title updates. It takes a lot to release a complete game and then push out free events, quests, equipment and new monsters to fight.
>They have a distinct style when it comes to the clothes and colour schemes
what the frick am I reading
An unironic shill post. This thread is full of them.
Let me guess. You are going to list at least 5 games that have the same clothes and color schemes that preceeded it to prove your argument right?
I don't need to list games when designs in genshit alone show how little care or variety goes into designs
So your issue is just within characters and not related to my post at all about a unique overall design scheme?
Other than hilchurls which character has the best porn?
I'd say barabara has consistently good shit both animated and illustrations. Plus she has decent doujins.
I wish nahida and klee had better doujins.
klee has one really good one though with qiqi.
Barbara is the sexiest hebe
god i hope they fix dehya.
fix her censored short? I'd unironically prefer that instead of improving her kit
>ran out of ley lines
Wow, you'd think I'd have like 9000 of them after two years, but I really have to go grind abyss mages lol
Wishful thinking but I am hoping to unlock 5*s through intrinsic long ass quest lines to really feel rewarded for all my hard work. Instead of playing the lottery and hope I get a good 5* to play as within a set timelimit before he or she fricks off to the vault for a year or less.
Buy Ayaka's new costume
Hey what's up hope you don't mind if I join.
ok. can I buy it if I don't have her?
Yes, but I question your priorities if you don't have Ayaka.
I don't have Ayaka because she's ugly and has the personality of an abrasive sponge.
Then why would you buy a costume for her.
I didn't.
i started playing after her last banner. she's cute af though
I already did, it's cute but I wish it had special outfits like Diluc's one.