Why do these games make you take pictures of enemies in order to do actual damage to them? It‘s so stupid and breaks the flow of combat. I‘ve played the first 2, does infinite have a camera as well?
its a casualised mechanic (as is everything else in bioshock) from system shock 2 because you no longer have rpg elements in bioshock
also in bioshock 2 you dont take pictures its a video camera
To the contrary system shock was more casual with the way research worked. You just found some materials, pressed the research button and waited for a little bit and boom, free bonus. You didn't have to put yourself in actual danger like you do in BS.
>free bonus
only way you can afford to dump modules into research is if you do an exotic weapon run, which is like the worst build anyway. youve played ss2 on the highest difficulty right?
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Rumbler_Organ >Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Psi_Reaver_Organ >Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Greater_Psi_Reaver_Organ >Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
three strongest mutants in the game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
now do the other 7 organs
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Research
that's every enemy with an organ in the game. All damage research requires one 1 point into the research skill.
Only the worm armors and annelid weapons require higher skill.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Research
that's every enemy with an organ in the game. All damage research requires one 1 point into the research skill.
Only the worm armors and annelid weapons require higher skill.
And don’t forget that you don’t need to buy that point, there is that augment or whatever it was caused that gave you 1 level of research for free.
I did psi-only, which exposed a lot of the game's flaws. Got softlocked at Shodan since I never put anything into hacking
I know you get fewer modules and nanites on higher difficulties, but a game having a crappily balanced RPG system doesn't mean it takes any more skill to find out or utilize the good options
that's a lie it's far more similar than /vee/ would lead you to believe except its also better in every way aside from the setting which is fine but rapture was cooler
Bioshock 1 had the better map design. Bioshock 2 was a disappointment in that regard, and a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Infinite is the worst, however.
No not really. 1 was great. 2 just seemed like a downgrade that offered nothing new except retardation. But 1 wasn't explored enough and you'd think any more would be great until you ecperience 2. 3 is unplayable though. It asks you to get baptised. So no. Not even 5 minutes if gameolay.
>heard from normalfags.
I could see normalfags liking Bioshock 2 the most because why wouldn't they want to a play a shooter where you're a big hulking cyborg looking for your daughter?
World's best father simulator, bar none. You play as a super cool armored guy going around beating the shit out of mutants, rescuing cute little girls that refer to you as daddy and have adorable/hilarious commentary as they watch you mow down hordes of monsters.
I bet most haters never even played it, they just parrot some shit they heard from normalfags.
Didn't Yahtzee get on the "unnecessary sequel" train? Because people were mad as fuck that it even existed. I wasn't even in agreement that 1 needed a sequel, but I was still curious about it. Then I went all in on Something in the Sea and got hooked. Helps that the game turned out to be the best of the bunch. I don't care if a game "needed" to happen or not, but it did happen and it was awesome so I don't see why anyone should be bitching about it.
Yahtzee complained about the moral choice system in 2 for having unbalanced sacrifices from the player that are then followed up with a boss fight when he also complained about the moral choice in 1 being a coat of paint. He also complained about it being standard sequel slop pushed out by a publisher when he also complained about 1 being a rehash of SS2. Hell, it lacks any complaints about multiplayer which everyone knows he hates. Really phoning it in to get escapist off his back.
Yahtzee complained about the moral choice system in 2 for having unbalanced sacrifices from the player that are then followed up with a boss fight when he also complained about the moral choice in 1 being a coat of paint. He also complained about it being standard sequel slop pushed out by a publisher when he also complained about 1 being a rehash of SS2. Hell, it lacks any complaints about multiplayer which everyone knows he hates. Really phoning it in to get escapist off his back.
I find it strange that anyone ever took Yahtzee seriously.
He's a pretentious storyfag, but he got filtered by New Vegas of all things. A massive poser.
His "reviews" have always been comedy focused with some honest opinions spliced in. Anyone who uses his zero punctuation videos into consideration when buying a game is brain dead. Highly recommend watching his Lets Drown out and other videos he made with his gay aussie lover is you want a more indepth look at his actual opinions on stuff. Now him being a story fag makes sense considering he has published books and the majority of his released games are story focused. Theres only so much gameplay you can shove into a point n click adventure game before its nonsensical puzzle territory.
Finished replaying it a couple of days ago with only one crash. Hope Minervas Den will be just as smooth because last time I tried it crashed so much it was unplayable. Heard it has the best Bioshock story.
Not really no. I played it when it came out and by that point the freshness of Bioshock 1 and the excitement around it had worn off.
I remember forcing myself to finish it and not having much fun. I couldn't wait for it to end.
I'm playing through the first game now. Just figured out I can actually walk through the levels, I don't have to run everywhere. Makes the game so much better. I don't think I realized that when I was a kid.
The game is about garden gnomes who want to create an underwater civilization because of white oppression and then an evil big bad whitey tries to ruin it but the half gnomish main character saves the day. Infinite is about how whites are inherently evil and are incapable of creating a homogeneous society without oppressing others. Made by a gnomish man.
Yes, I know. garden gnome this and garden gnome that (meh). So far I'm just seeing a bunch of hegelian idealism. Which I hate in socialism, communism and nazism. I actually do hate this game. But I think I should give it a fair chance. Not rush myself.
I just don't really like Bioshock. Which I think is weird because wasn't System Shock 2 Ken Levine's baby or something? I loved that one. I think I just give a pass to anything taking place on a space station in a horror setting.
Yes.
The gameplay is a huge improvement over 1. The Guns handle better and have more interesting versions. The Camera is better, the drill is nice, the speargun is fun. Everything is just a step up. Not to mention that the upgrades are more varied but also more limited in number, so you can’t fully upgrade every weapon and will need to prioritize.
The Plasmids are more varied and more differentiated. In 1 there is no reason to ever upgrade your plasmids, since the best thing they do is the secondary effects (lighting on fire, stunning, electrocuting water) and those happen regardless of level. Increasing them makes them more expensive to use and thus less useful overall. In Bioshock 2 upgrading your plasmids instead also gives them secondary effects, like chaining lightning or freezing people in a block for instance. It's no wonder Infinite ripped 2 off in allowing upgrades to plasmids to do different things.
The Gene tonics are better too, since they all share 1 category instead of being split into 3. This gives you more freedom in how you want to build your character, since you can specialize more in certain areas.
Played through 2 again recently and the thing that stuck with me the most was how Lamb NEVER SHUTS UP. I wouldn't mind if all of her dialog was the same boring shit over and over again >"Oh Delta you're a monster larping as man blah blah blah"
I get Ryan was a hard act to follow but he wasn't always blaring in your ear about how shit you were
Although objectively better, I always thought it's spiritually worse because it's literally just a rehash of Bioshock 1.
The best one, because that fag Levine wasn't on board
Not really, tho. Themes are different snd even the backstory of the main characters is
best game with the word -shock at the end of it
third-best game with the word -shock at the end of it
second game with the word bioshock in it
fourth best game with the word cock in it
Why do these games make you take pictures of enemies in order to do actual damage to them? It‘s so stupid and breaks the flow of combat. I‘ve played the first 2, does infinite have a camera as well?
its a casualised mechanic (as is everything else in bioshock) from system shock 2 because you no longer have rpg elements in bioshock
also in bioshock 2 you dont take pictures its a video camera
I played bioshock 2 recently. You take a picture, then when you kill that enemy you get progress towards it
oh i think it was a camera in prey. my mistake
To the contrary system shock was more casual with the way research worked. You just found some materials, pressed the research button and waited for a little bit and boom, free bonus. You didn't have to put yourself in actual danger like you do in BS.
>free bonus
only way you can afford to dump modules into research is if you do an exotic weapon run, which is like the worst build anyway. youve played ss2 on the highest difficulty right?
all enemy research required only the first level of research.
wong
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Rumbler_Organ
>Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Psi_Reaver_Organ
>Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Greater_Psi_Reaver_Organ
>Researching this item requires Research skill level 1
three strongest mutants in the game
now do the other 7 organs
https://shodan.fandom.com/wiki/Research
that's every enemy with an organ in the game. All damage research requires one 1 point into the research skill.
Only the worm armors and annelid weapons require higher skill.
And don’t forget that you don’t need to buy that point, there is that augment or whatever it was caused that gave you 1 level of research for free.
I did psi-only, which exposed a lot of the game's flaws. Got softlocked at Shodan since I never put anything into hacking
I know you get fewer modules and nanites on higher difficulties, but a game having a crappily balanced RPG system doesn't mean it takes any more skill to find out or utilize the good options
infinite is a generic corridor shooter that has very little in common with the first two games
Does it still have cool plasmids at least?
I dunno if I'd call them cool, but yes
that's a lie it's far more similar than /vee/ would lead you to believe except its also better in every way aside from the setting which is fine but rapture was cooler
2 is a bit better about it because you do t just take pictures, you record video of the fight and then use different weapons and such during it.
Shit game, good DLC
Minerva's Den was the same as the main game, just with a bland ass new weapon and a plasmid that was basically just a magical grenade
It had a story that wasn‘t dogshit unlike the main game
what was bad about bioshock 2's story?
>you were the black man on the computer all along!
hardly
>a bland ass new weapon
Holy shit this place has bad takes. The laser was a very good weapon and gravity well was fun.
yea, the gamefeel is the best in the series
It was good, but playing as a big daddy should have felt like playing a tank.
>get shot once
>pop 2 med kits
It's a very good video game.
>Do you like Bioshock 2?
It was OK.
Miles above Bioshock 1.
Still not nearly as good as System Shock 2 was before, or nu-Prey would be latter.
Bioshock 1 had the better map design. Bioshock 2 was a disappointment in that regard, and a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Infinite is the worst, however.
YES! its the best bioshock game after all
infinite is basically COD with a bioshock skin
and the first one, although good, is inferior to the second game
yeah it's really good, my favourite of the series
Yeah. Fun gameplay, decent story, Minerva's den was amazing.
I will never get tired of charging someone with a drill and watching them go flying.
>ctrl-f
>multi
this thread is full of fags
the multi in Bioshock 2 is the best fucking arena shooter experience i ever had
Thank you anon. I thought I was crazy. It was legitimately a fun one or two hour time sink every time I played it. Ps3 cozy days
Bioshock 2 was one of the 3 games I had to use GFWL for.
No not really. 1 was great. 2 just seemed like a downgrade that offered nothing new except retardation. But 1 wasn't explored enough and you'd think any more would be great until you ecperience 2. 3 is unplayable though. It asks you to get baptised. So no. Not even 5 minutes if gameolay.
That's a stupid answer
Asking people how they feel about Bioshock 2 is a great way to find out if they're a pretentious gay. They almost always hate it for no real reason.
I bet most haters never even played it, they just parrot some shit they heard from normalfags.
>heard from normalfags.
I could see normalfags liking Bioshock 2 the most because why wouldn't they want to a play a shooter where you're a big hulking cyborg looking for your daughter?
normalfags only like 1 and Infinite
2 is the black sheep of the series
It's because 2 doesn't have le epic plot twist
the plot twist is that ken levine is a hack
and hates white people
World's best father simulator, bar none. You play as a super cool armored guy going around beating the shit out of mutants, rescuing cute little girls that refer to you as daddy and have adorable/hilarious commentary as they watch you mow down hordes of monsters.
Didn't Yahtzee get on the "unnecessary sequel" train? Because people were mad as fuck that it even existed. I wasn't even in agreement that 1 needed a sequel, but I was still curious about it. Then I went all in on Something in the Sea and got hooked. Helps that the game turned out to be the best of the bunch. I don't care if a game "needed" to happen or not, but it did happen and it was awesome so I don't see why anyone should be bitching about it.
Sinclair is still one of the biggest bros in gaming.
Yahtzee complained about the moral choice system in 2 for having unbalanced sacrifices from the player that are then followed up with a boss fight when he also complained about the moral choice in 1 being a coat of paint. He also complained about it being standard sequel slop pushed out by a publisher when he also complained about 1 being a rehash of SS2. Hell, it lacks any complaints about multiplayer which everyone knows he hates. Really phoning it in to get escapist off his back.
I find it strange that anyone ever took Yahtzee seriously.
He's a pretentious storyfag, but he got filtered by New Vegas of all things. A massive poser.
His "reviews" have always been comedy focused with some honest opinions spliced in. Anyone who uses his zero punctuation videos into consideration when buying a game is brain dead. Highly recommend watching his Lets Drown out and other videos he made with his gay aussie lover is you want a more indepth look at his actual opinions on stuff. Now him being a story fag makes sense considering he has published books and the majority of his released games are story focused. Theres only so much gameplay you can shove into a point n click adventure game before its nonsensical puzzle territory.
Yes
Yes it is the best Bioshock game.
Finished replaying it a couple of days ago with only one crash. Hope Minervas Den will be just as smooth because last time I tried it crashed so much it was unplayable. Heard it has the best Bioshock story.
Yes, it is the best bioshock mechanically and in gameplay.
Not really no. I played it when it came out and by that point the freshness of Bioshock 1 and the excitement around it had worn off.
I remember forcing myself to finish it and not having much fun. I couldn't wait for it to end.
The best Bioshock
No.
I'm playing through the first game now. Just figured out I can actually walk through the levels, I don't have to run everywhere. Makes the game so much better. I don't think I realized that when I was a kid.
The game is about garden gnomes who want to create an underwater civilization because of white oppression and then an evil big bad whitey tries to ruin it but the half gnomish main character saves the day. Infinite is about how whites are inherently evil and are incapable of creating a homogeneous society without oppressing others. Made by a gnomish man.
Yes, I know. garden gnome this and garden gnome that (meh). So far I'm just seeing a bunch of hegelian idealism. Which I hate in socialism, communism and nazism. I actually do hate this game. But I think I should give it a fair chance. Not rush myself.
Actually yes I do like it. It has better hacking than the first game which honestly makes it better in my opinion.
Bioslop
I just don't really like Bioshock. Which I think is weird because wasn't System Shock 2 Ken Levine's baby or something? I loved that one. I think I just give a pass to anything taking place on a space station in a horror setting.
Yes.
The gameplay is a huge improvement over 1. The Guns handle better and have more interesting versions. The Camera is better, the drill is nice, the speargun is fun. Everything is just a step up. Not to mention that the upgrades are more varied but also more limited in number, so you can’t fully upgrade every weapon and will need to prioritize.
The Plasmids are more varied and more differentiated. In 1 there is no reason to ever upgrade your plasmids, since the best thing they do is the secondary effects (lighting on fire, stunning, electrocuting water) and those happen regardless of level. Increasing them makes them more expensive to use and thus less useful overall. In Bioshock 2 upgrading your plasmids instead also gives them secondary effects, like chaining lightning or freezing people in a block for instance. It's no wonder Infinite ripped 2 off in allowing upgrades to plasmids to do different things.
The Gene tonics are better too, since they all share 1 category instead of being split into 3. This gives you more freedom in how you want to build your character, since you can specialize more in certain areas.
drill charge alone makes it worth playing
Played through 2 again recently and the thing that stuck with me the most was how Lamb NEVER SHUTS UP. I wouldn't mind if all of her dialog was the same boring shit over and over again
>"Oh Delta you're a monster larping as man blah blah blah"
I get Ryan was a hard act to follow but he wasn't always blaring in your ear about how shit you were