This was probably in response to how FFXV had a day 1 8gb update, and said update was basically considered mandatory given the state of the vanilla unpatched copy.
Nintenchuds will never understand peak vgs. Last relevant Nintendo console was the Snes, and years later the DS/3DS.
PS1/PS2 are peak vgs, always will be.
>dude active time lore
So we're back to FF13's "If you want to understand anything that's going on, you have to read an entire fictional encyclopedia". I guess that's neat but sucks to see that they're already floundering in the storytelling department.
I don't think you understand how hard normalfags would drop the game if it opened like Tactics Ogre or FFT and took the typical amount of time to actually explain the countries/characters/etc. It's just a way of encouraging player retention without losing out on the complexity of the narratives they are trying to emulate. Something like Vagrant Story's cold open would lead to a massive dropoff after the first cheevo in today's climate.
This. So far it seems like the game does a great job of "show, don't tell", like showcasing how Bearers are treated and function in society as slaves, and how hard magic is used as a crutch. Bearer guy in Rosaria being forced to fill a fountain, servant pouring water from a crystal to nobles etc.
The weird thing is there’s plenty of valid criticisms and things you can argue fall under “ymmv” but I hardly ever see anything like that and it’s just the same untrue statements over and over again (with the exception of linearity; even if you can say prior games had been somewhat similar it doesn’t change that it’s still undeniable true for XIII)
That anon is a retard but it's a valid criticism for 13. If you don't read the text entries you have absolutely no background on the majority of characters. Pic related especially. What a wasted character.
active time lore is not a compendium, idiot. It's not the datalog where you have to read pages of shit, it's just small blobs of text that is relevant to what's happening on the screen if you need a refresher
here clive is accompanied by two soldiers and his mission is to kill goblins, so this is what the active time lore shows
it's a cool feature, stop doomposting all the time
FF13 had a ton of problems but requiring the player to use an iota of their brain capacity in order to dig up the backstory was definitely not one of them.
I don't trust journos and don't plan on starting to now, but most footage of the game already hinted at such a thing. Many people here have already used that to describe games positively because it's one of the best outcomes and highest praise a modern game can get, that of not being like a modern game in the places that matter. Stranger of Paradise and the rest of Team Ninja's recent games demonstrate this clearly.
Also this
And here's the Polygon article they "quote".
is fucking hilarious and further emphasizes both this concept and the disconnect between people who cannot fathom trying to play games to actually play them and enjoy learning them, something a lot of people on this site have trouble with as well.
It's really according to the delivery but it isn't far fetched. I mean, if you think about it, why would someone every innovate tech like an aqueduct when you can just get clean water from a crystal? If they've been on the island for thousands of years of course they wouldn't have the same tech trajectory as regular people. Same with a furnace, why would you make shit like a blast furnace when you can just use a crystal?
Obviously they are going to tie Cid's scientific streak into all of that, him and the other bearers live without magic.
I guess it makes sense in a similar way of Mesoamericans not developing wheel-based transport and pottery tech, or Australian aboriginals never developing bow and arrow either. Except here it's because of the prevalence of an alternative tool/resource, not because of an absence of required components or circumstances, which seems a more slippery slope to justify these things not being developed.
Yeah it definitely could end up being slippery-slope-ish, but I have to imagine they put some thought into it at least. I mean, bows, and the obvious absence of shields, but they still developed siege mechanisms like onagers. How far they'll stretch that into daily life will be interesting considering we are getting like, almost a decade worth (or more) of time passage in the game. Having tech outside of the crystals actually develop would be an interesting setting shift but would require so much in terms of asset creation I don't know if that's realistic. It would also be autistic, I can't imagine they thought about the battle scenes enough to have tactics change as time goes on and magic gets rare.
This is literally the dynamic between Garlemald and the rest of the world in FFXIV. The Garleans cannot use aether at all so they invent technology ala magitek. Eorzea by comparison is high fantasy forest and pirate island.
>so they invent technology ala magitek
The whole cultural-economical narrative is somewhat ruined by the reveal that it was just Emet all along acting like an evil Prometheus and before that they got by with the Reaper/Voidsent workaround.
The work done by the likes of Garlond more than make up for it. I agree it dampened the cool factor but that's ok. It's still true. They adopted it culturally wholesale and for the purpose of this thread it is significant enough.
Think one of the funniest bits is that Garlemald had things like heaters and an actual radio station and nobody in Eorzea had any idea how they worked as they depend on aether way too much for anything. Hell Eorzea doesn't even any true craftsmen as they just use crystals for everything.
Is this not literally what's happening with technology and computers, many industries and even videogames now? Things are constantly being made simpler and people are overly relying on the simplified measures and losing the capacity for doing anything more complex or being able to adapt. It seems pretty realistic on top of being interesting ground to explore.
why is Nomura so shitty at designing hair? Why does he make hair look so utterly gay and uncool? Also why is he obsessed with the color black? bros be wearing black everything like they in some emo music group
because his entire style is stripped straight from visual kei shit and that's exactly what they look like. even as far back as VIII, VII is the only real exception.
why is Nomura so shitty at designing hair? Why does he make hair look so utterly gay and uncool? Also why is he obsessed with the color black? bros be wearing black everything like they in some emo music group
Funny. Jill looks like the old version of a XV character. The one Nomura designed before she got replaced.
BASED! FFXVI DEAD ON ARRIVAL! YOSHITPISS ON SUICIDEWATCH! NO DAY 1 PATCH BECAUSE NO MONEY AND NO PREORDERS! XVI-KUN WILL NEVER GET A GIGACHAD ROYAL EDITION LIKE FFXV GOT! SEETHE COPE DILATE!
Gladio is chadio and folds clive
Cor also folds clive
so does noct
and regis
and ardyn
and ignis
and prompto
and drautos
and nyx
and somnus
and gilgamesh
Not gonna pretend XV had amazing characters but the localisation really did him a disservice. Making him full musclehead is exactly the kind of dumb shit translators should be lynched for
Chinese John Wick is not a good character design nor does it make up for the homo character you play as for almost the entirety of the game.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even 8yo noct is more masculine than 30a clive the literal generic mmo preset default avatar
nyx also folds cucklive
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Ends up with ardyns hand up his ass and turned into a sock puppet
lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>clive ends up basically dead like agni doomed to eternal suffering >nyx got to die and be with his loved ones in the beyind, what ardyn did with his corpse didn't matter because nyxs soul was already in the beyond
cope
cor wrecks cucklive and that sorry excuse of a cid i mean ff16s cuckid
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
have fun when XVI is universally acclaimed and sells better than the past 3 games.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
nice non-argument
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice cope
I still can't believe they named the white man main character of their gay little movie "Nyx"
what a fucking retarded chunnishit name
Yeah, nice to meet you, my name is Voidblade Edge
better than clive, god what a gay name
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I still can't believe they named the white man main character of their gay little movie "Nyx"
what a fucking retarded chunnishit name
Yeah, nice to meet you, my name is Voidblade Edge
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not a single character introduced in kingsglaive mattered, just one big waste of time producing that movie.
I do hope SE can make more CGI movies though, if Capcom can keep pushing out new ones for their RE franchise why can't Square Enix ?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
just like joshua doesn't matter outside the prologue because he's dead and just a hooded guy figment of clives imagination
nyx ensured the ring made it outside of insomnia alongside luna
and the fact expendable characters in kg are better than ff16 main cast is just sad for ff16
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Game so complete, you need to watch a movie about a major plot event like the fall of Insomnia or a plot device (ring of luci) making it outside of Insomnia.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ff16 has no playable party, no hidden dungeons, no minigames so guess ff16 is the most unfinished ff of all
and no you learn about anything in kg in chapter 1 of the game
hell even a single loading screen bio fills in all the details
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
but there's a >press button to view log/encyclopedia
with lore info about the world/characters and events tho. I don't have to watch a movie or anime or read a novel or a forum
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>encyclo
and not playable
also ffxv has dossiers and story recap and workd info you find within the game like cosmogony books or lore books and shit added its archives menu
you literally get all the lore archived there dumbass in addition to loading screen lore frequently always relevant to stuff per chapters basis
cope
how is this any different than looking up "wade is some little batch that little Joshua had to save"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and not playable
Still in game tho? Was the kingsglaive movie, the anime, the novel, the dlc and the cancelled dlc included in the game on release? Bitch you couldn't even swap character untill a year after, you had to play as Noctis with warp strikes and shit...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All info pertaining to its events that are relevant to the game were in the game
>anime
irrelevant
>novel
not canon
>dlc
literally in the game
>couldnt swa
FF16 HAS NO FUCKING PARTY
FF15 always had a party that had stats and levels and equipment and accessories and gear and abilities and skill trees and additional skills that increase their AI function and party tech commands
ff16 has none of that
hell even noctis alone with his 15+ weapon types is more than clive has
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Noctpiss dies a 30 year old virgin
xvi kun is gay? no wonder you ship dion x clive
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I ship Noctis and Ignis with Ignis being the top
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
XV has no director, no team, cancelled DLC, no legacy so i guess XV is the most dead and buried ff of all.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yoshitpiss not even director of ff16 on no no no and he confirmed he's not doing ff17 or ff18 oh no no no
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You mean the legendary FF15 party that was available to switch between characters a year after?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
playable and having a party are 2 different things, it had a full party then playable
16 has neither
In FF15 I can see Gladio and Ignis and Prompto's HP bar, I can open a menu and use items on them, I can use the technique bar to give them an individual command that I have set and unlocked from the ascension grid, I can equip their weapons, accessories, outfit, level them up, enhance their skills, performe link attacks with them, unlock abilities and actions they perform as AI from the ascension grid to increase what they do as AI, etc
I can also see the HP bar of Aranea, Cor and Iris in addition to using items on them from a menu, performing link attacks with them and giving them a technique command from the technique bar costing meter, in addition I can view their stats and gear
In addition to all that which is all in base game I can also swap to play as Ignis or Gladio or Prompto which are all unique systens with unique meters too in addition to MP bars, and can also play as Ardyn who has Ifrit as a party member you can give commands to
In FF13 I can see Sahz or Snow or Hope's, or Vanile or Fangs HP bar, I can see their paradigm shift to know their AI movepool is, I can use items on them and I can manage their accessories and weapon equipment in addition to unlocking new commands to their move pool in the crystariam grid, and can change party leader to change who you directly input commands on
In FF12 I can see the HP bars for Ashe or Basch or Balthier or Fran or Penelo, I can see their MP and ATB meter, I can dictate commands to them and tell their AI what to do in gambits and change their weapons and equipment and level up
In FF16? Only clive can level up, equip and be customized and have items used on, torgal is just a dog AI that either attacks as AI or heals with no resource attached while Jill or Cid are just completely seperate AI with no menus, no customising, no levelling, no equipment, no stats, cant even use items on them, NO HP BAR
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All info pertaining to its events that are relevant to the game were in the game
>anime
irrelevant
>novel
not canon
>dlc
literally in the game
>couldnt swa
FF16 HAS NO FUCKING PARTY
FF15 always had a party that had stats and levels and equipment and accessories and gear and abilities and skill trees and additional skills that increase their AI function and party tech commands
ff16 has none of that
hell even noctis alone with his 15+ weapon types is more than clive has
Game is action, why is it necessary to have party? Are Lightning returns, Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus not Final Fantasy games for only having the MC?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lightning returns, Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus
spinoffs kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
13 is a trilogy, last entry shouldn't be considered a spinoff...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All FF sequels are spinoff games
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because its mainline FF >Lists spinoffs and side games that have the luxury to not be beholden to shit mainline ff must have
I’m still surprised so many people hated XV this much. Is it because of the versus meme and you thought you were getting a different game?
I thought it was alright. Some of the endgame fights felt like crap but that’s every game with super bosses.
Even as someone who is more forgiving of it then most the story isn’t executed as well as it could be, the side content is ass and the combat never really becomes fun; even Armiger Unleashed with the Royal DLC is only okay. I don’t hate it myself but I can see why others would
>versus meme
Reminder Stellafag's argument is "it's good because it's a dark, miserable and POLITICAL PASSION PROJECT just like THE GREATEST FF GAME THAT IS FF12" Matsuno fags are weird at best and Stellafag is no fucking exception.
Nta but the guy said that the reason why people pine for Versus is because Nomura said it would tackle political subjects that no other FF game tackled before, speculated to be terrorism, class divide and mass migration, and it would allegedly be more violent than other FF games that came before it. This appealed to Stellafag, who saw the same thing in FF12, which is his favorite Final Fantasy game of all time, and Xenogears, his favorite game of all time. Both are very dark, political, anime style games. He's the author of the infamous "Versus writeups" you hear people ask to post all the time. The guy is also excited for FF16.
You literally are an ecoterrorist in ff7, unknowingly assist in the return of pandemonium and return of a sorceress in ff8, and destroy the planet Bran Bal in ff9. It’s been done before.
>This appealed to Stellafag, who saw the same thing in FF12, which is his favorite Final Fantasy game of all time, and Xenogears, his favorite game of all time
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Nta but the guy said that the reason why people pine for Versus is because Nomura said it would tackle political subjects that no other FF game tackled before, speculated to be terrorism, class divide and mass migration, and it would allegedly be more violent than other FF games that came before it. This appealed to Stellafag, who saw the same thing in FF12, which is his favorite Final Fantasy game of all time, and Xenogears, his favorite game of all time. Both are very dark, political, anime style games. He's the author of the infamous "Versus writeups" you hear people ask to post all the time. The guy is also excited for FF16.
here is a classic stellafag write up and he is right in every way
>Stellafag is right in every way
What's one thing you learned from the writeup that you didn't know about before?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I like stellafag writeups because he gets that passion and individual vision is what makes great art. The xeno games are my favorites too. I don't think its in this one but my favorite stellafag conspiracy is that Xenoblade 2 cheered Nomura up enough to make him want to put Versus stuff in KH3.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>writeups
There's more than one? Could you also summarize what you just uploaded?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I had another one saved but I can't find it anymore. Basically this one is just describing why XV failed and his ideas on the nature of Square RPGs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not him but I think Side Black
[...]
here is a classic stellafag write up and he is right in every way
covered that. Is it Side Green you're looking for? It's a timeline of the Crystal Tools fiasco. I'm already half-Stellafag so I should know
I like stellafag writeups because he gets that passion and individual vision is what makes great art. The xeno games are my favorites too. I don't think its in this one but my favorite stellafag conspiracy is that Xenoblade 2 cheered Nomura up enough to make him want to put Versus stuff in KH3.
>my favorite stellafag conspiracy is that Xenoblade 2 cheered Nomura up enough to make him want to put Versus stuff in KH3.
I'll look for it for you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>my favorite fanfiction covered that
Have you ever actually taken a step back and realize that the attetionfag made all that shit up and is just projecting his own feelings onto Nomura?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's probably 20% headcanon but Nomura has been weirdly open about his resentment for 'recent Final Fantasy games'. He felt compelled to make a game about a very angry man in 2012-2013, and we know what happened then. SoP even features Jack losing his drive in the Insomnia level.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's probably 20% headcanon
more like 70% >resentment for 'recent Final Fantasy games'
He only said that recent games weren't like Sakaguchi's definition that a FF game should be a game that has everything.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He felt compelled to make a game about a very angry man in 2012-2013, and we know what happened then. SoP even features Jack losing his drive in the Insomnia level.
Just how petty is Tetsuya Nomura? He really is Takahashi 2.0.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>his ideas on the nature of Square RPGs.
Not him but explain?
it's funny, even ff origins with jack was a fun game but this seems a step above that, plus the aesthetics/music are great: June will be a busy month for releases too.
Lmao, no. It's Square STILL trying to get that elusive "western audience" and this time they're trying to turn final fantasy into Sonyshit. The fact they added squeezing through narrow passages should say enough. Hope it will have "cinematic" climbing and at least 2 slide sections
>The fact they added squeezing through narrow passages
actual lemming mindset to complain about this shit just because a couple journos bitched about it in their articles (I'm sure they journos are completely unbiased and they're totally not still butthurt about the lack of "diversity" in the game)
Lemming mindset is wanting to play "Sonyshit, Japan =O" after all the signs Square gave that they're still trying hard to acquire an "american audience"
Is it just me that feels like every preview of this game has a fuckton of conflicting information? Is it a product of SE not giving them a script? Like for instance, with this one that came out yesterday you have one guy claiming the open area they were dropped in was only an 8th(?) of the entire open area, and that they were locked out of the majority of it for spoiler reasons, then you have another dude claiming that it was just the MSQ area that they were locked out of and it took him a few hours to explore the entire thing, and then you have another dude claiming the game is basically on rails and the "big areas" are just illusions and aren't big at all. It feels like these people are either outright retarded or just didn't pay attention or ask enough questions at the event and are just surmising things from their own limited experience.
Fuck "journalists".
>I want a definitive positive narrative and these previews aren't providing it.
No, I want a definitive narrative period you fucking sperg. It's not helpful at all for these people to show up and tell everyone 6 different things and then tee hee away with pointless questions like "what does Final Fantasy MEAN" for the umpteenth time. Either Square is out fault for not being clear enough to them on the actual facts or they are at fault for being retarded and asking retarded questions that clarify nothing.
Fuck you too.
They invited every rando they could get hold of to this event anon. The first article that leaked yesterday was the Daily Mail one. Read it and weep.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12110315/Final-Fantasy-16-hands-Action-packed-game-Game-Thrones-references.html
>Sony movie game >PS2 soul
If the game wanted to LARP as a PS2 game it should actually be an actual RPG ala FFX and FFXII instead of a nu god of war wannabe
Jack's game is just 1/4 of Versus 13. Mix FF15, NEO, Jack's game and FF16 and you get the game Nomura wanted to make. A dark doujin style real world commentary action RPG with KH2 gameplay.
like the game or not you can't deny the style switching/combat was decent: it seems like this is a further evolution on that (with full movement).
Correct. Kujiraoka, Abe and Matsuoka might be working on this game. They all are not only Lightning Returns devs, but also KH2 devs.
Versus isn’t a real game. You need to let go of this ridiculous idea that squeenix scrapped the greatest game of all time for Ffxv. Clearly it was gonna be absolute garbage so they repurposed it or whatever
But everyone who matters at square did. You don’t scrap your next big project on a whim. A big group decides. You act like some braindead intern said “it’s shit” and they all panicked. Real life isn’t Ganker where braindead gays pretend their opinions matter.
Yeah some higher ups who probably don't even play video games felt it wasn't gonna be profitable enough and you think that's an indication it was gonna be bad, how stupid can you be
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They were right. Stop pretending CEO’s are stupid and you’re a genius
FF11 doesn't count as a real FF
so FF12 is FF11
FF13 is thus FF12
ff14 is not real FF
so versus 13/15 is the real ff13 now
type0 is made a full console game instead a handheld and is the real ff14
ff16 is not ff instead sop ffo is made as 15th ff
7r is not real ff instead whatever ff they wouldve made instead is the real ff16
>Cope posting has already begun
I'm gonna be over here having fun and finding out how to perform wild DMC combo strings in my "moviegame." I'll be sure to hop back on Ganker from time to time to farm tears.
>journos hate japan, rpgs, and FF >make it into a mindless buton mashing westaboo grim brown and gray dmc copycat >they love it
only retards are surprised
japs dont live in the west or talk with westerners. their only source of info is the press and awards. so they think were all in agreement with what western journos and award shows say. they have a sheep culture there and assume we are similarly sheep (projection)
I get why he’d assume so, I just wish he (and Japanese devs in general) could figure them for the charlatans they are. Listening to their views and taking them onboard can only be bad as things stand atm, and arguably always have been
Oh of course there are plenty of bad turn based RPGs but the thing is they can be also good, action RPGs can never be good because the elements contradict each other to the extreme.
Pure refined Action games? Love them
RPGs where your decisions actually matter because its turn based and your other party members get to do things? Love them
Combine them? Utter disaster
ATB is at worst boring, I think it was a failed experiment because all ATB does is introduce a lot of dead time in the game, but at least the game is still turn based in a way so you are still having real tactics happen potentially.
>XVI dead on arrival >No party like XV >Yoshitpiss is a hack >All good demo criticism is by paid xiv-shills >All "bad" demo cirticism is true and if you question it you are a xivdiscordchud >XIV dead game, look at my streamcharts. Yoshitpiss on suicidewatch because he took xiv budget for DOA XVI >Clive looks gay unlike the manly macho gigachad man that Noctis is
>XV saved FF though
but the game is objectively bad. Also FF would have been fine even if XV ended up being the worse selling game in the franchise. The machine is too strong for the series to fail just by one game.
probably best game ever and dlc will make it into goty candidate and SE sucks luminous cock and wants them to make ff17 which will surely be OMEGAKINO or something among these lines...
Well for one its better than ff16 especially after these recent previews show how ff16 cant maintain 60fps and is still damage sponge on regular enemies
have fun when XVI is universally acclaimed and sells better than the past 3 games.
>sells
lmao
LOL
you think ff16 will sell anywhere near ffxv let alone kh3 let alone FF7R let alone octopath 1?
Kill niggles. Behead niggles. Roundhouse kick a niggle into the concrete. Slam dunk a niggle baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy blacks. Defecate in a niggles food. Launch niggles into the sun. Stir fry niggles in a wok. Toss niggles into active volcanoes. Urinate into a niggles gas tank. Judo throw niggles into a wood chipper. Twist niggles heads off. Report niggles to the IRS. Karate chop niggles in half. Curb stomp pregnant black niggles. Trap niggles in quicksand. Crush niggles in the trash compactor. Liquefy niggles in a vat of acid. Eat niggles. Dissect niggles. Exterminate niggles in the gas chamber. Stomp niggle skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate niggles in the oven. Lobotomize niggles. Mandatory abortions for niggles. Grind niggle fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown niggles in fried chicken grease. Vaporize niggles with a ray gun. Kick old niggles down the stairs. Feed niggles to alligators. Slice niggles with a katana.
I think Dark Souls/Elden Ring fans are still a step above FF fans in terms of schizo power levels. They're the ones that doxxed general butch for making his usual fap stuff but now with melina.
There's a guy who defends 7R almost as hard but only when it gets brought up. Barry is infamous because he'll argue about XV in literally any thread, plus he's so infamous that others intentionally bait him or spend all their time discussing him even if he's not here.
XVI fanboys are way worse. These people are obsessed with a boogeyman that doesn't exist. Just watch them start insulting me for just pointing this fact out. And I don't give a fuck about any Final Fantasy.
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/14244-the-key-to-final-fantasy-xvis-success-is-its-story-but-its-also-naoki-yoshidas-biggest-worry >And you look back at the previous games, at FF15 - they had their story, but it wasn't complete. And then they try to make it complete, and then they promise some more story, but then they don't give us the story... >“And so you had a lot of people that went into the series wanting us to give them a great story, and they didn't get that. And a lot of people were disappointed in that. Like, even if they liked the game, they're left wanting because one of those main pillars of the Final Fantasy series, stories, was not given to them.
XV is incomplete confirmed!
>has no party, no hidden dungeons, no minigames, smaller areas than ffxv, less weapons than xv, worse graphics than xv
Does not make a game incomplete
But XV is incomplete
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/14244-the-key-to-final-fantasy-xvis-success-is-its-story-but-its-also-naoki-yoshidas-biggest-worry >And you look back at the previous games, at FF15 - they had their story, but it wasn't complete. And then they try to make it complete, and then they promise some more story, but then they don't give us the story... >“And so you had a lot of people that went into the series wanting us to give them a great story, and they didn't get that. And a lot of people were disappointed in that. Like, even if they liked the game, they're left wanting because one of those main pillars of the Final Fantasy series, stories, was not given to them.
XV is incomplete confirmed!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>xv start fully ends in the base game >the only reason dlc existed was to let you play as other characters, the story itself in base game is finished since launch
>ergo ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>fully ends in the base game
but then it doesn't end >was to let you play as other characters
cut content being re-added >story itself in base game
with cutscenes added into game >ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
clive being the only playable was planned from the start. XV had a full playable party, then cut to only noctis and then made you pay for the party members before being free.
XV is incomplete
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It does end, nothing made in dlc extends beyond the ending ffxv launch had
it was added free to base game
the dlc were all made after base game
means leviathan ff16 is cut content gonna be sold as dlc
>added
which have nothing to do with understanding the main story since base xv fully ends its story
also even ff7 added scenes in the September 1997 release of ff7 after its initial January release didnt have things such as zacks death scene
ffxv being only noctis playable was planned since it became xv under tabata when they set the direction of ffxv proper
ff16 has no party and is thus incomplete in addition it has no hidden dungeons and is incomplete and no minigames as a AAA FF so incomplete
ffxv always had a full party since launch with stats and equipment and level up and hp bars and gear and skills etc
ff16 doesn't become its purposely incomplete
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Barry can't even write properly, it's over for him.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what an embarrassment
I wonder how many copies rebirth will ship in the first 3 months
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'd predict a 40% drop, maybe worse.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
fuck you bazzy you can't pretend noctis was only supposed be playable after versus XIII showed the bros gameplay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
versus isnt xv
their gameplay in xv is superior to the barebones versus shit too
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ff16 was made by having only the MC playable and that was told since the game was announced so that means that there aren't any plans of having more characters than clive under player's control (except torgal's commands) so that part is finished. I don't get what makes the "no party = unfinished game" argument valid in your head. Please explain...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Actually ffxv since tabata was announced as directed was stated to have only noctis playable while the rest are AI but even then they are a full party with stats and ability and weapon equipment and accessories and skills and hp bars and can use items on them and they do team attacks and can give commands to all of them
ff16 has no party and is therefore incomplete
by your own fucking logic ffxv isnt even incomplete because all of them are playable anyway and done for free and has been that way for over 6 years now
mainline FF are supposed to have parties
ff16 does not have a real party and torgal isnt even really a party member since its just an extension of clive since all 3 things it does are only for clive with no stats or anything attached
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mainline FF are supposed to have parties
who said?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fact that its been a mainstay in all single player mainline FF
>xvi-kun still clinging to 90% free trial accounts
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The fact that its been a mainstay
Your own wish does not make a game incomplete
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ff16 is objectively incomplete
it does not meet the basic requirements
its barely even an RPG
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it does not meet the basic requirements
Who set the requirements?
Can you point to sakaguchi saying this?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The requirements of having a party
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The requirements of having a party
Who set this requirment?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because your opinions overrides that of a producer on the actual game ?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yoshitpiss is an incompetent hack
him dumbing down ff16 doesn't make it finished it makes it more unfinished than anything you could say for any ff
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When you have a game as fast as DMC/Bayonetta/XVI or the majority of action rpg/hack&slash play out, stamina and mp are useless mechanics and would only serve to slow down the player. To get around the issue of spamming the same strongest moves (you know, the very same type of limiting factor you use in your examples) we now have cooldowns.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
nope sorry 16 is a failure as a ff
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't make me go Miyazaki on your ass barrington
>100$ fightan
really moron
No but you don't understand it's premium !
And it's got gore ! Gore ! (no t&a) but still. GORE !
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>timmy still assblasted that japan is making fun of ff16 with miyazaki fake quote memes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you retarded or what?
Thousands of games don't have parties and they're still complete games.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thousands of games aren't mainline FF so you have no argument you stupid ff14 troom
FFXV was an incomplete disappointment
Actual FFXV won more awards than ff14 and is more beloved than ff14
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>troom
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Actual FFXV won more awards than ff14 and is more beloved than ff14
I googled for both and I got this. Can you provide proof for both ff15 and ff14 awards from the same site?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>NAVGTR awards
I think FFXV would've been better if Cidney had breast cancer
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
XV also won more playstation awards, awards for its VA in japan and an award for the games AI stsyem
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ff16 has no party and is therefore incomplete
but party was never intended so there isn't in the completion que.
they intended to have a specific amount of playable characters.
That number is 1.
Playable character available = 1 as intended.
Project completed?
How does this make it incomplete.
>by your own fucking logic ffxv isnt even incomplete because all of them are playable anyway and done for free and has been that way for over 6 years now
If they left it like release day where you could only control Noctis and give commands to the rest of the party then it'd be complete but they didn't left it that way. A year later they made party member playable.
Adjusting party = adding something to a thing you deem incomplete or prone to improvement
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>intended
then why are they trying to call it a party? stop coping because ff16 is a failure of a ff
its objective unfinished because it has no party, they make ff16 unfinished on purpose
so by your logic ff7 was incomplete because launch japan ff7 didn't have zacks death scene
kh2 is incomplete because roxas boss fight and lingering will and cave of remenerence and org 13 data fights and an additional 30 minutes of story cutscenes and the actual true secret ending movie were only added in kh2fm 2 years after kh2 released
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
zacks death scene was start of the compliation cancer and was better off removed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about the original death scene in the ps1 version
it wasn't even there in the Japanese launch version
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>unfinished on purpose
just like ff15 had unplayable characters untill a year after release?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Actually no because 15 has a functioning party with stats and equipment and menus and skills and gear and ability unlocks and team attacks, unlike ff16 which has no party
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then why did the make party members playable a year later if the party was already 100% complete? To make it 120%?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because they wanted to expand on the side stuff in the game
their functionality as a party is literally identical, their combat as a party when switched simply added more combat variety, the actual party foundation is identical to base game because it already had a fully fleshed out party
ff16 meanwhile has no party
if you made ff16 a visual novel and removed combat you'd defend that too because youre a brainless cultist
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>remenerence
I think it's time for bed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>nothing made in dlc extends beyond the ending
which is wrong >means leviathan ff16 is cut content gonna be sold as dlc
nowhere is this said >ffxv being only noctis playable was planned since it became xv under tabata
So tabata cut content already promised so they resold it as DLC >has no party and is thus incomplete
under what condition
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's ok when tabata cuts content and resells it as dlc.
It's not ok when yoshitpiss cuts leviathan and resells it as dlc.
simple as
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's ok when tabata cuts content and resells it as dlc.
It's not ok when yoshitpiss cuts leviathan and resells it as dlc.
simple as
ep gladio parallel to chapter 7
ep ignis parallel to chapter 9
ep prompto parallel to chapter 12
comrades practically 0 story at all just uses the framework of the time between ch13 and ch14 to occur within with a created character
ep ardyn prequel takes place before chapter 1
royal pack expands chapter 14 with more side stuff and swaps the king behemoth boss out front the citadel with cerbetus, and added 3 king of lucis fights between ifrit and ardyn
nothing after you beat the mystic before chosing the photos is different to original way it ended
no other dlc is main story
it is known due to the confirmed ff16 leak
no ffxv is a different game to versus and ffxv under tabata was built around Noctis's abilities with the party as great ai and actual functions as a party still with stats and command's and weapons and hp bars etc
meanwhile ff16 is unfinished and has no party so it is unfinished by default
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>parallel to chapter 12
and changes the ending >ep ardyn prequel takes place before chapter 1
and the end >it is known
it is not >no ffxv is a different game to versus
XV had playable party members until tabata cut them out >so it is unfinished by default
under what condition?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it changes nothing, ep prompto is literally parallel to events only in chapter 12 >at the
nothing, it literally takes place 30 years+ before chapter 1
it is
tabata xv is not nomuras shit
stop coping already
tabata stated ffxv since he was director was always planned with only noct playable and the party is AI with commands and stats and abilities and still have hp bars and have link attacks
the condition that ff16 has no actual party
by your logic ffo sop is unfinished because they made the party playable in a patch after the game released
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>by your logic ffo sop is unfinished because they made the party playable in a patch after the game released
Yes, if you went into some SoP threads you'd see that same argument.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it changes nothing
the ending >it literally takes place 30 years
and then the end >tabata xv is not nomura
no wonder its not good >tabata stated ffxv since he was director
So there was a time before that the party was playable. >the condition that ff16 has no actual party
Who says it needs to? >by your logic ffo sop is unfinished
I didn't say it needs to have a party
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nothing in the ending has anything to do with chapter 12
>then the
noct walking up to ardyn is literally before the end of the game and is likely just the same scene in chapter 14, it literally says it continues in chapter 14
nomura was fired for xv
>before
not tabata as sole director so doesn't count
the fact FF does it in every mainline
so you're coping
ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nothing in the ending
changes the ending >ardyn dlc
also changes the ending >so doesn't count >so doesn't count >so doesn't count
ha ha ha
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
changes nothing
also changes nothing >no argument
cope
>The requirements of having a party
Who set this requirment?
Me
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I set the rules
ok lol, so you have as much as authority as I do over the FF series kek.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nomura you fucker I told a million times you get away from Ganker
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So if FF16 was a visual novel with no combat, no stats you'd defend it because thats "what they wanted to make"?
Holy fuck you have no standards
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what they wanted to make
Correct, because that's what FF has always been. And that has actual FF devs stating such. >you have no standards
So you made up your own requirements, got angry that it didn't have them, refuse to show where any devs have said that it needs to have your requirements and then get angry when proven wrong.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
XVI-kun outing himself as a complete and utter fucking retard
>noooooo the devs have to say the thing that has been in ff for decades has to still be in, stop being mad at my mmo hack dev producer who has never made a single player game in his life
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the devs have to say the thing that has been in ff for decades has to still be in
correct, where is your source stating otherwise?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Unless you have something to provide then the line can be drawn anywhere from person to person.
I could say FFXV doesn't have a proper party because the first 10 games gave me control over what actions my teammates would take, whereas FFXV gave the bros some autonomy since it was an action game. This take would be as valid as yours.
FF4 didn't have, only DS remaster version
FF1 had puzzle minigame in the original: >The 15 Puzzle is a secret minigame in the original Final Fantasy that can be played after having obtained the ship; the player must hold the A button while in the ship and press B several times until the game appears. It exists in nearly every version.
already can't defend your argument. warp strike to someone else fag... ran out of magic grenades?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wow and ff16 has no mp or magic... its just dmc guns... no more like a peashooter...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Clive can use ranged attack magic depending on eikon equip, Fire, Aero, Stone etc >Clive can use Fire/Fira/Firaga depending on how much you charge the ranged attack (triangle) >Can be mixed into combos >Somehow throwing a magic grenade is better and more fun than the potential of whatever clive can do with the peashooter
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>has no mp >has no magical stat >there is no functional difference between any "magic" they are all just neros DMC gun >its extremely weak >no elemental affinities so pointless
meanwhile xv magic is OP as fuck, extremely powerful in what you craft and has
magic cost
magic stat
elemental affinities
can manually aim it to target like DD magic or lock on select target to instacast it like in KH
uses elemency mana points to craft
in addition you have mp for warp magic, warpstrike, phase, ring magic with holy, death and alterna
all extremely powerful and can build full mage builds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>meanwhile xv magic is OP as fuck
devs had to add an item so it doesn't damage party members because people complained how stupid that was lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
t-that's what makes it OP you xvi-kun
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>meanwhile xv magic is
grenades lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>select target to instacast it like in KH
kek, xv being anything like Kekdom Sharts
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I ain't reading all that, you just gather elemental nodes, craft a magic grenade using ingredients to increase potency/damage and toss it. lmao
Or is the "hold O to kill" ring of luci magic as well?
It would really suck big time if the gameplay footage back from march in that dark fort was already a significant portion of her screentime. Same goes for other dominants as well.
I'm starting to think she'll be killed off. Hugo and Clive seem to straight out despise each other, even after the final timeskip and recent previews do confirm that Hugo has something going on with Benedikta
Everything about this game screams soulless though. I literally cannot even remember what any character from the trailers looked like, or know any premise for the story. What’s the hook?
I think it's really unfair that so many people are hating this game just because it's a temporary Sony exclusive, aside from those that hate it because it's not 'diverse' enough. I mean, it's not the game's fault and you can play it later on PC. And judging from the things developers have said, there is a lot of passion behind this project.
Yeah. Though I think it's kinda funny to see Zeldabros, even outside of Ganker, will crucify anyone that even dares to imply that XVI will give totk a run for its money for goty
https://twitter.com/ReforgeGaming/status/1660753269528969219
VSXIII will always be it's own thing, after all XV is a complete reboot of that as nothing of the original remains.
And as unfortunate as it is, Verum Rex in indeed very much the property of Disney. Doesn't however stop him from working on his entirely own original idea from scratch.
>XV isn't incomplete >btw wtf happened to insomnia and Regis >btw why did Gladio leave the party and come back with a scar >btw what happened to prompto when he fell off the train >btw how and why did Ignis get blinded >btw why is Luna's brother a zombie in Ardyn's basement >btw wtf is Ardyn's backstory >also why do we never see Iris and Cidney after the timeskip
it's called Final Fantasy! Where's the fantasy if everything's answered? No-mystery fag doesn't want his brain to hurt thinking or speculating...
explained in ch1 and ch2
irrelevant, no different to when cid or whoever else leaves ff16s failure of a party and none of that is important to noctis story in being true king
ch10 and ch12 already explains ravus was sentenced to death and blamed for the attack on altissia
literally in the game as he literally tells you in chapter13, as does Bahamut and as does talcott in chapter 14 and as does the cosmogony books throughout the game
because theyre not main story important theyre side characters
he has more backstory present than sephiroth or kefka did in their debut games
It's funny that you can't start a thread about FFXV even thought he'd be the most passionate about it posting trivial fun facts and builds and combos. You can only talk about FFXV on FFXIV and FFXVI threads...
A XV thread would die signifcantly faster than a XVI thread. Hell any other FF game from the 4th/5th/6th/7th gen would last longer.
Barry may be passionate about his favorite game, but he can't handle the slightest criticism and effectively kills the thread. Anyone who genuienly like XV is immediately made aware what of type schizophrenic is attached to it like maggots to a corpse.
>entered my first FF15 thread after Prompto's DLC came out >I encountered a funny glitch so I thought I'd convert it to a webm and post it for others to see >some insane schizo came to the game's defense and flamed me for it
and that's how I discovered Barry for the first time...
Better yet, he has killed the game discussion here completely.
You can't talk about XV because of Barry, it's so fucking funny.
It's funny that you can't start a thread about FFXV even thought he'd be the most passionate about it posting trivial fun facts and builds and combos. You can only talk about FFXV on FFXIV and FFXVI threads...
A XV thread would die signifcantly faster than a XVI thread. Hell any other FF game from the 4th/5th/6th/7th gen would last longer.
Barry may be passionate about his favorite game, but he can't handle the slightest criticism and effectively kills the thread. Anyone who genuienly like XV is immediately made aware what of type schizophrenic is attached to it like maggots to a corpse.
I see way more people positive on xv than xvi
and if anything dissuading them from postings its retarded ff14 mmo trannies and nomurafags a vocal minority who mald over it non stop
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I see way more people positive on xv than xvi
Im seeing the opposite.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then why aren't there FF15 threads so I can go into a talk with others? Why do I always find FF15 talk in FF16 and FF14 threads? If it's so beloved then why are we the vocal minority who keep on malding on their threads?
Why is ff16 so atrocious that it sets the ff14 chuds to seethe over 15 immediately lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then why aren't there FF15 threads so I can go into a talk with others? Why do I always find FF15 talk in FF16 and FF14 threads? If it's so beloved then why are we the vocal minority who keep on malding on their threads?
>So you're coping because its actually useful magical instead of ff16 pointless non magic with no fucking stats or elemental affinities
Hold O to combo
Hold O to kill using ring
Hold square to dodge
Hold square to block QRT
OH MY! WHAT A DIVERSE AND COMPLICATED GAMEPLAY! YES I'M COPING!
Everything in the leak has been proven true so far and that includes stuff not even in the preview marketting demos and instead just things mentioned randomly by Yoshi-P or koji fox that confirned the leak like Yoshi-P saying clive parents have an intimate scene in bed unprompted which confirm the leak again
Final fantasy has been dead for over 20 years now I don’t know why the fuck it has mutated into but square has just increasingly alienated every fan it ever had pre FFXIII. I believe the entire downfall of the company is nomuras fault, he was made narrative lead in too many projects and all he actually wants to do is draw cute boys, I hope he dies, he is a fucking hack, the biggest hack there has ever been in any industry. Fuck that guy so much.
>AIEEEEE we can't have comfy ff15 thread because vocal minority ff14/ff16 schizos attack our threads
said the ff15-kun in yet another ff16 thread while probably posting in a ff14 thread at the same time...
I'm kinda confused, Clive's magic attack in between melee is like Nero's sword-charge gimmick where you have to time it on hit/animation or it's just input?
Why make it a PS5 exclusive though? The know that they are eventually going to release it on PC/steam anyway. Its like they are intentionally alienating 2/3 of market for no good reason. They are basically leaving a bunch of money on the table and hoping that if they come back later that it may still be there. From a business perspective it just seems retarded, you should always want to maximize your reach/accessibility of any product that you sell. Otherwise you are actively choosing to make less money.
Square gets support from Sony on developing the game, Square only has to worry about developing for one platform during the development cycle. Sony has no doubt paid for, or paid for a good chunk, marketing.
It also isn't retarded because if they take a year or so to port it then they're going to catch people who would double dip and bought the game twice. Once a year ago on the console launch and then a year later on PC.
Look at how well P5R's port did, despite it taking years after the fact and even being on game pass.
Because Sony paid for it along a support team to help out with their platform. Probably offered more than enough for SE to consider going exclusive for longer than 6 months. Maybe Sony still understands "FF" has mostly been synonymous with Playstation ever since FF7 but they are also aware of it's diminishing brand power they didn't go full 100% exclusive.
Starvation is good for games, look at AAA games anon. When you have a winner, and you deliver on one platform, you are able to generate the overwhelming praise, and envy that will self perpetuate until one year later, then praise hits the game again when everyone experiences it. That's how much SE is banking on the success of their game, and why not? They took the best lessons given from recent games, smoothed out their shitty engine that took them a decade, and put a guy at the lead who revived a literally dead MMO who has had years of game development experience.
The last point is so important you might not fully comprehend what it means. You could of given him Halo for example and he would have saved the series after 3, just by his ability to pick the right people for a team.
don't care, still not buying anything made by square
>soul of a ps2 game
Shovelware?
>soul of a PS2 game
>no day one patch
sounds like pre 7th gen game to me
>day 1 patch bad
>no day 1 patch also bad
stop noticing things
7remake also had no day 1 patch.
It could have really used one for the texture issues.
The problem isn’t that day one patches exist, it’s that games are unplayable without them; Old games also had multiple revisions.
>Old games also had multiple revisions.
surely not on day 1 though
except old games were playable on day one without any revisions
Day 1 patch bad.
Lack of day 1 patch despite game needing it also bad.
Very smart comment.
Game went gold months ago, I expect it to run better day 1 than every other AAA release this year
Missing the point here, poindexter. This should never be touted as a feature, especially not about a console exclusive.
Unironically based. Day 1 patches are fucking retarded.
This was probably in response to how FFXV had a day 1 8gb update, and said update was basically considered mandatory given the state of the vanilla unpatched copy.
>have the privilege of paying to be a free playtester
what a deal!
>attempts to sound smart
>actually sounds even dumber
just shut up and launch the game in a proper state like it should be, you hacks
Why would they specifically say ps2, what are they trying to achieve here
PS2 was the last time FF was good
>a patch for people without Internet connection
That internet connection thing is bullshit since XVI went gold months ago so clearly they're very confident in the state the game is in.
Based. Make complete products, you fucking gays.
>SHOULD BE PLAYABLE
im gonna pirate this shit too
just like forspoken
it has that weird ps1/ps2 era where jap devs just made weird gameplay systems that aren't standard
Never doubt the man who brings shadows. Zelda Schmelda. True GOTY will be XVI vs. AC VI
>soul of a ps2 game
Nintenchuds will never understand peak vgs. Last relevant Nintendo console was the Snes, and years later the DS/3DS.
PS1/PS2 are peak vgs, always will be.
Can't wait for the art of Clive being a brocon got Joshua.
>dude active time lore
So we're back to FF13's "If you want to understand anything that's going on, you have to read an entire fictional encyclopedia". I guess that's neat but sucks to see that they're already floundering in the storytelling department.
A glossary being present does not mean the entire narrative is locked behind that menu like in XIII.
it's literally solely for the retards that can't into Matsunoshit
I don't think you understand how hard normalfags would drop the game if it opened like Tactics Ogre or FFT and took the typical amount of time to actually explain the countries/characters/etc. It's just a way of encouraging player retention without losing out on the complexity of the narratives they are trying to emulate. Something like Vagrant Story's cold open would lead to a massive dropoff after the first cheevo in today's climate.
This. So far it seems like the game does a great job of "show, don't tell", like showcasing how Bearers are treated and function in society as slaves, and how hard magic is used as a crutch. Bearer guy in Rosaria being forced to fill a fountain, servant pouring water from a crystal to nobles etc.
Lol you are so right. Vagrant Story throws into the world so hard with barely any explanation the inevitable remaster won't be recieved well.
I had to watch the TO opening three times to get a vague understanding of the world
It's a lot of names real quick
Why are FF13 haters always so fucking retarded? Holy shit.
The weird thing is there’s plenty of valid criticisms and things you can argue fall under “ymmv” but I hardly ever see anything like that and it’s just the same untrue statements over and over again (with the exception of linearity; even if you can say prior games had been somewhat similar it doesn’t change that it’s still undeniable true for XIII)
That anon is a retard but it's a valid criticism for 13. If you don't read the text entries you have absolutely no background on the majority of characters. Pic related especially. What a wasted character.
active time lore is not a compendium, idiot. It's not the datalog where you have to read pages of shit, it's just small blobs of text that is relevant to what's happening on the screen if you need a refresher
here clive is accompanied by two soldiers and his mission is to kill goblins, so this is what the active time lore shows
it's a cool feature, stop doomposting all the time
FF13 had a ton of problems but requiring the player to use an iota of their brain capacity in order to dig up the backstory was definitely not one of them.
Imgur Gameinformer article.
https://imgur.com/a/qo6ZGU6
https://imgur.com/a/tEfx57j
>an entire section dedicated to diversity
>Critcised "deservedly so"
>make Yoshida explain himself once more
Fuck the americucks.
just use archive.today or web.archive.org gay
>game of thrones
>god of war
Skipped.
Yes.
>Posting journo slop
Has summer started already?
Yep. Like the 4th thread today about this specifically because it has "soul" in the title.
?t=390
it's LITERALLY the ff8 battle music. To me FF without good music is not FF so i'm really loving the new composer (who does ff14 apparently).
Take the 14 pill bro. Its worth it for music alone
I like 14 a lot, probably the only mmo worth playing in 2023, even before group content it's a solid game all around
>mmo worth playing
Oxymoron
POST YOUR FAVORITE XIV TRACKS
NOW
Hard Mode: No Alexander Tracks
Call me basic, I don't care.
> pay every month to play
lel kek
this is the only point I will ever give to gachafags: compared to mmotards they almost look uncucked
>pic
is bringing out otamatones at music concerts a big japanese meme
even the Omori jap concert did that
This is for you
I love the nods to the classic games, anything with good orchestral music/piano/strings suits FF so well.
>there's a fucking Eden and he makes his trademark FF8 attack
holy shit
This part of that track gives me goosebumps every time I hear it goddamn
For me? it's 18:15 onwards, what a fucking fight theme. God I CAN'T fucking wait.
Kotaku is seething as hard about this game as Barry at this point.
And here's the Polygon article they "quote".
how is kotaku still alive after being blacklisted by half the industry
Because outrage sells.
>journos claiming combat is just about mashing square
We already have proof that it's so much more than that
There's no QTE slowdown if you aren't using the journo-accessories.
>QTEs only happen for journalists
I wonder if this is true
I assume journos experienced a mash-square gameplay because they had the journo-accessories
Remember when you see a game "journalist" shit on this game, this is the real reason why. It's too white.
I don't trust journos and don't plan on starting to now, but most footage of the game already hinted at such a thing. Many people here have already used that to describe games positively because it's one of the best outcomes and highest praise a modern game can get, that of not being like a modern game in the places that matter. Stranger of Paradise and the rest of Team Ninja's recent games demonstrate this clearly.
Also this
is fucking hilarious and further emphasizes both this concept and the disconnect between people who cannot fathom trying to play games to actually play them and enjoy learning them, something a lot of people on this site have trouble with as well.
Kotaku is reaching hard
how did they do it? imagine ff15 had this combat instead of attack and warp strike spam.
Hire someone with actual experience in developing action combat?
>combat director
>DMC5, marvel 2, dragons dogma
we're eating well
Shit. THat looks like people who know what they're doing. I might need more reasons to hate it.
Minagawa was also Vagrant story art director.
Did he come up with the god awful design in that game artwise?
>combat director
we good bros
but does it have the soul of an unplugged or plugged ps2?
Isn't the point of the gameboy to be portable?
This seems an interesting concept but I feel like it's going to go into silly territory when you think about it a bit.
It's really according to the delivery but it isn't far fetched. I mean, if you think about it, why would someone every innovate tech like an aqueduct when you can just get clean water from a crystal? If they've been on the island for thousands of years of course they wouldn't have the same tech trajectory as regular people. Same with a furnace, why would you make shit like a blast furnace when you can just use a crystal?
Obviously they are going to tie Cid's scientific streak into all of that, him and the other bearers live without magic.
I guess it makes sense in a similar way of Mesoamericans not developing wheel-based transport and pottery tech, or Australian aboriginals never developing bow and arrow either. Except here it's because of the prevalence of an alternative tool/resource, not because of an absence of required components or circumstances, which seems a more slippery slope to justify these things not being developed.
Yeah it definitely could end up being slippery-slope-ish, but I have to imagine they put some thought into it at least. I mean, bows, and the obvious absence of shields, but they still developed siege mechanisms like onagers. How far they'll stretch that into daily life will be interesting considering we are getting like, almost a decade worth (or more) of time passage in the game. Having tech outside of the crystals actually develop would be an interesting setting shift but would require so much in terms of asset creation I don't know if that's realistic. It would also be autistic, I can't imagine they thought about the battle scenes enough to have tactics change as time goes on and magic gets rare.
The Hideaway outcasts at least seem to shift to repurposing Fallen tech.
This is literally the dynamic between Garlemald and the rest of the world in FFXIV. The Garleans cannot use aether at all so they invent technology ala magitek. Eorzea by comparison is high fantasy forest and pirate island.
>so they invent technology ala magitek
The whole cultural-economical narrative is somewhat ruined by the reveal that it was just Emet all along acting like an evil Prometheus and before that they got by with the Reaper/Voidsent workaround.
The work done by the likes of Garlond more than make up for it. I agree it dampened the cool factor but that's ok. It's still true. They adopted it culturally wholesale and for the purpose of this thread it is significant enough.
Think one of the funniest bits is that Garlemald had things like heaters and an actual radio station and nobody in Eorzea had any idea how they worked as they depend on aether way too much for anything. Hell Eorzea doesn't even any true craftsmen as they just use crystals for everything.
almost sounds a bit like ff6, using crystals (espers) to use magic and influence the world
man even the way they are narrating is feels ultra melancholic, I can imagine the final hours of the game are going to be grim as fuck
Is this not literally what's happening with technology and computers, many industries and even videogames now? Things are constantly being made simpler and people are overly relying on the simplified measures and losing the capacity for doing anything more complex or being able to adapt. It seems pretty realistic on top of being interesting ground to explore.
Not buying PS5 just to play it.
Waiting for PC port.
>He doesn't know
15 was gay dogshit, how will 16 be any different?
There’s an I now
because it has cooler looking characters than the j-rock shit we got in XV
Chadicus Clive
why is Nomura so shitty at designing hair? Why does he make hair look so utterly gay and uncool? Also why is he obsessed with the color black? bros be wearing black everything like they in some emo music group
because his entire style is stripped straight from visual kei shit and that's exactly what they look like. even as far back as VIII, VII is the only real exception.
>why is Nomura so shitty at designing hair?
Fuck you, I like em.
I bet you do, gay
Funny. Jill looks like the old version of a XV character. The one Nomura designed before she got replaced.
You're not being clear anon
Anon was talking about Stella.
>Stella looks like Jill
Yoshi-P will never beat the Nomura/Versus fag allegations EVER
Why is XVI so fucking ugly and gay?
16 is gay dogshit
XV is based chad kino
>cherry picking
someone is coping hard
BASED! FFXVI DEAD ON ARRIVAL! YOSHITPISS ON SUICIDEWATCH! NO DAY 1 PATCH BECAUSE NO MONEY AND NO PREORDERS! XVI-KUN WILL NEVER GET A GIGACHAD ROYAL EDITION LIKE FFXV GOT! SEETHE COPE DILATE!
why can't you kids just admit XV is the most gay game in the franchise
Clive gets folded by the real shield
Gladio is a douche
Gladio is chadio and folds clive
Cor also folds clive
so does noct
and regis
and ardyn
and ignis
and prompto
and drautos
and nyx
and somnus
and gilgamesh
Not gonna pretend XV had amazing characters but the localisation really did him a disservice. Making him full musclehead is exactly the kind of dumb shit translators should be lynched for
Gladiolus is the group cumdump.
xvi-kun why do you have a picture like that? did you just search for final fantasy yaoi or something?
I searched for gladioulus on rule34 and all of it was him taking it in the ass. Also he's hot as fuck and I want to fuck him.
clive the beardlet
Chinese John Wick is not a good character design nor does it make up for the homo character you play as for almost the entirety of the game.
Even 8yo noct is more masculine than 30a clive the literal generic mmo preset default avatar
nyx also folds cucklive
>Ends up with ardyns hand up his ass and turned into a sock puppet
lol
>clive ends up basically dead like agni doomed to eternal suffering
>nyx got to die and be with his loved ones in the beyind, what ardyn did with his corpse didn't matter because nyxs soul was already in the beyond
cope
cor wrecks cucklive and that sorry excuse of a cid i mean ff16s cuckid
have fun when XVI is universally acclaimed and sells better than the past 3 games.
nice non-argument
Nice cope
better than clive, god what a gay name
I still can't believe they named the white man main character of their gay little movie "Nyx"
what a fucking retarded chunnishit name
Yeah, nice to meet you, my name is Voidblade Edge
Not a single character introduced in kingsglaive mattered, just one big waste of time producing that movie.
I do hope SE can make more CGI movies though, if Capcom can keep pushing out new ones for their RE franchise why can't Square Enix ?
just like joshua doesn't matter outside the prologue because he's dead and just a hooded guy figment of clives imagination
nyx ensured the ring made it outside of insomnia alongside luna
and the fact expendable characters in kg are better than ff16 main cast is just sad for ff16
>Game so complete, you need to watch a movie about a major plot event like the fall of Insomnia or a plot device (ring of luci) making it outside of Insomnia.
ff16 has no playable party, no hidden dungeons, no minigames so guess ff16 is the most unfinished ff of all
and no you learn about anything in kg in chapter 1 of the game
hell even a single loading screen bio fills in all the details
but there's a
>press button to view log/encyclopedia
with lore info about the world/characters and events tho. I don't have to watch a movie or anime or read a novel or a forum
>encyclo
and not playable
also ffxv has dossiers and story recap and workd info you find within the game like cosmogony books or lore books and shit added its archives menu
you literally get all the lore archived there dumbass in addition to loading screen lore frequently always relevant to stuff per chapters basis
cope
how is this any different than looking up "wade is some little batch that little Joshua had to save"
>and not playable
Still in game tho? Was the kingsglaive movie, the anime, the novel, the dlc and the cancelled dlc included in the game on release? Bitch you couldn't even swap character untill a year after, you had to play as Noctis with warp strikes and shit...
All info pertaining to its events that are relevant to the game were in the game
>anime
irrelevant
>novel
not canon
>dlc
literally in the game
>couldnt swa
FF16 HAS NO FUCKING PARTY
FF15 always had a party that had stats and levels and equipment and accessories and gear and abilities and skill trees and additional skills that increase their AI function and party tech commands
ff16 has none of that
hell even noctis alone with his 15+ weapon types is more than clive has
xvi kun is gay? no wonder you ship dion x clive
I ship Noctis and Ignis with Ignis being the top
XV has no director, no team, cancelled DLC, no legacy so i guess XV is the most dead and buried ff of all.
Yoshitpiss not even director of ff16 on no no no and he confirmed he's not doing ff17 or ff18 oh no no no
You mean the legendary FF15 party that was available to switch between characters a year after?
playable and having a party are 2 different things, it had a full party then playable
16 has neither
In FF15 I can see Gladio and Ignis and Prompto's HP bar, I can open a menu and use items on them, I can use the technique bar to give them an individual command that I have set and unlocked from the ascension grid, I can equip their weapons, accessories, outfit, level them up, enhance their skills, performe link attacks with them, unlock abilities and actions they perform as AI from the ascension grid to increase what they do as AI, etc
I can also see the HP bar of Aranea, Cor and Iris in addition to using items on them from a menu, performing link attacks with them and giving them a technique command from the technique bar costing meter, in addition I can view their stats and gear
In addition to all that which is all in base game I can also swap to play as Ignis or Gladio or Prompto which are all unique systens with unique meters too in addition to MP bars, and can also play as Ardyn who has Ifrit as a party member you can give commands to
In FF13 I can see Sahz or Snow or Hope's, or Vanile or Fangs HP bar, I can see their paradigm shift to know their AI movepool is, I can use items on them and I can manage their accessories and weapon equipment in addition to unlocking new commands to their move pool in the crystariam grid, and can change party leader to change who you directly input commands on
In FF12 I can see the HP bars for Ashe or Basch or Balthier or Fran or Penelo, I can see their MP and ATB meter, I can dictate commands to them and tell their AI what to do in gambits and change their weapons and equipment and level up
In FF16? Only clive can level up, equip and be customized and have items used on, torgal is just a dog AI that either attacks as AI or heals with no resource attached while Jill or Cid are just completely seperate AI with no menus, no customising, no levelling, no equipment, no stats, cant even use items on them, NO HP BAR
Game is action, why is it necessary to have party? Are Lightning returns, Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus not Final Fantasy games for only having the MC?
>Lightning returns, Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus
spinoffs kek
13 is a trilogy, last entry shouldn't be considered a spinoff...
All FF sequels are spinoff games
Because its mainline FF
>Lists spinoffs and side games that have the luxury to not be beholden to shit mainline ff must have
I’m still surprised so many people hated XV this much. Is it because of the versus meme and you thought you were getting a different game?
I thought it was alright. Some of the endgame fights felt like crap but that’s every game with super bosses.
Even as someone who is more forgiving of it then most the story isn’t executed as well as it could be, the side content is ass and the combat never really becomes fun; even Armiger Unleashed with the Royal DLC is only okay. I don’t hate it myself but I can see why others would
>versus meme
Reminder Stellafag's argument is "it's good because it's a dark, miserable and POLITICAL PASSION PROJECT just like THE GREATEST FF GAME THAT IS FF12" Matsuno fags are weird at best and Stellafag is no fucking exception.
"/m/ was a mistake" - Tomimo probably
Speak English
I don’t know what you just said
Rough translation:
>Versus 13 bad, 15 goty
Nta but the guy said that the reason why people pine for Versus is because Nomura said it would tackle political subjects that no other FF game tackled before, speculated to be terrorism, class divide and mass migration, and it would allegedly be more violent than other FF games that came before it. This appealed to Stellafag, who saw the same thing in FF12, which is his favorite Final Fantasy game of all time, and Xenogears, his favorite game of all time. Both are very dark, political, anime style games. He's the author of the infamous "Versus writeups" you hear people ask to post all the time. The guy is also excited for FF16.
People think things are good if they're serious and violent? Seriously? Is this 2005?
You literally are an ecoterrorist in ff7, unknowingly assist in the return of pandemonium and return of a sorceress in ff8, and destroy the planet Bran Bal in ff9. It’s been done before.
>This appealed to Stellafag, who saw the same thing in FF12, which is his favorite Final Fantasy game of all time, and Xenogears, his favorite game of all time
EMO
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here is a classic stellafag write up and he is right in every way
>Stellafag is right in every way
What's one thing you learned from the writeup that you didn't know about before?
I like stellafag writeups because he gets that passion and individual vision is what makes great art. The xeno games are my favorites too. I don't think its in this one but my favorite stellafag conspiracy is that Xenoblade 2 cheered Nomura up enough to make him want to put Versus stuff in KH3.
>writeups
There's more than one? Could you also summarize what you just uploaded?
I had another one saved but I can't find it anymore. Basically this one is just describing why XV failed and his ideas on the nature of Square RPGs.
Not him but I think Side Black
covered that. Is it Side Green you're looking for? It's a timeline of the Crystal Tools fiasco. I'm already half-Stellafag so I should know
>my favorite stellafag conspiracy is that Xenoblade 2 cheered Nomura up enough to make him want to put Versus stuff in KH3.
I'll look for it for you
>my favorite fanfiction covered that
Have you ever actually taken a step back and realize that the attetionfag made all that shit up and is just projecting his own feelings onto Nomura?
It's probably 20% headcanon but Nomura has been weirdly open about his resentment for 'recent Final Fantasy games'. He felt compelled to make a game about a very angry man in 2012-2013, and we know what happened then. SoP even features Jack losing his drive in the Insomnia level.
>It's probably 20% headcanon
more like 70%
>resentment for 'recent Final Fantasy games'
He only said that recent games weren't like Sakaguchi's definition that a FF game should be a game that has everything.
>He felt compelled to make a game about a very angry man in 2012-2013, and we know what happened then. SoP even features Jack losing his drive in the Insomnia level.
Just how petty is Tetsuya Nomura? He really is Takahashi 2.0.
>his ideas on the nature of Square RPGs.
Not him but explain?
sony shills getting desperate
Most people are waiting for PC port because Yoshi keeps advertising it to XIV audience who are PC by majority.
Anyone want to give translating the ancient Greek lyrics a shot?
the what? where?
apparently all the vocals for the music we've heard including the victory fanfare are done in ancient Greek and pertain to the story
No one has the actual lyrics yet IIRC.
Is it still running only 30fps out of combat.
It was an older build they played.
it's funny, even ff origins with jack was a fun game but this seems a step above that, plus the aesthetics/music are great: June will be a busy month for releases too.
>soul
Lmao, no. It's Square STILL trying to get that elusive "western audience" and this time they're trying to turn final fantasy into Sonyshit. The fact they added squeezing through narrow passages should say enough. Hope it will have "cinematic" climbing and at least 2 slide sections
>The fact they added squeezing through narrow passages should say enough
You obviously have never played a FF game before, you sperg.
>The fact they added squeezing through narrow passages
actual lemming mindset to complain about this shit just because a couple journos bitched about it in their articles (I'm sure they journos are completely unbiased and they're totally not still butthurt about the lack of "diversity" in the game)
Lemming mindset is wanting to play "Sonyshit, Japan =O" after all the signs Square gave that they're still trying hard to acquire an "american audience"
FF with slide sections?? Impossible
Is it just me that feels like every preview of this game has a fuckton of conflicting information? Is it a product of SE not giving them a script? Like for instance, with this one that came out yesterday you have one guy claiming the open area they were dropped in was only an 8th(?) of the entire open area, and that they were locked out of the majority of it for spoiler reasons, then you have another dude claiming that it was just the MSQ area that they were locked out of and it took him a few hours to explore the entire thing, and then you have another dude claiming the game is basically on rails and the "big areas" are just illusions and aren't big at all. It feels like these people are either outright retarded or just didn't pay attention or ask enough questions at the event and are just surmising things from their own limited experience.
Fuck "journalists".
I want a definitive positive narrative and these previews aren't providing it. Pisses me off and proves journos aren't worth a shit.
>I want a definitive positive narrative and these previews aren't providing it.
No, I want a definitive narrative period you fucking sperg. It's not helpful at all for these people to show up and tell everyone 6 different things and then tee hee away with pointless questions like "what does Final Fantasy MEAN" for the umpteenth time. Either Square is out fault for not being clear enough to them on the actual facts or they are at fault for being retarded and asking retarded questions that clarify nothing.
Fuck you too.
They invited every rando they could get hold of to this event anon. The first article that leaked yesterday was the Daily Mail one. Read it and weep.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12110315/Final-Fantasy-16-hands-Action-packed-game-Game-Thrones-references.html
Yeah they're all retarded and giving completely retarded statements for trying to describe the same thing
Only Nintendo can make video games and only Nintendo devices can play video games Wrong board
>GoT
>God of War
end me
>Sony movie game
>PS2 soul
If the game wanted to LARP as a PS2 game it should actually be an actual RPG ala FFX and FFXII instead of a nu god of war wannabe
Jacks game was the true FF16
jack walked so clive could run, very much needed game after ff15.
Jack's game is just 1/4 of Versus 13. Mix FF15, NEO, Jack's game and FF16 and you get the game Nomura wanted to make. A dark doujin style real world commentary action RPG with KH2 gameplay.
Correct. Kujiraoka, Abe and Matsuoka might be working on this game. They all are not only Lightning Returns devs, but also KH2 devs.
Versus isn’t a real game. You need to let go of this ridiculous idea that squeenix scrapped the greatest game of all time for Ffxv. Clearly it was gonna be absolute garbage so they repurposed it or whatever
>Clearly it was gonna be absolute garbage
the fact that some retard at square thought so doesn't make it true
What like a sad emo game about real-world issues was going to be good?
But everyone who matters at square did. You don’t scrap your next big project on a whim. A big group decides. You act like some braindead intern said “it’s shit” and they all panicked. Real life isn’t Ganker where braindead gays pretend their opinions matter.
>Real life isn’t Ganker where braindead gays pretend their opinions matter.
Anon, thats what real life is
Worse, people listen to opinions of braindead morons irl
Yeah some higher ups who probably don't even play video games felt it wasn't gonna be profitable enough and you think that's an indication it was gonna be bad, how stupid can you be
They were right. Stop pretending CEO’s are stupid and you’re a genius
FF11 doesn't count as a real FF
so FF12 is FF11
FF13 is thus FF12
ff14 is not real FF
so versus 13/15 is the real ff13 now
type0 is made a full console game instead a handheld and is the real ff14
ff16 is not ff instead sop ffo is made as 15th ff
7r is not real ff instead whatever ff they wouldve made instead is the real ff16
like the game or not you can't deny the style switching/combat was decent: it seems like this is a further evolution on that (with full movement).
my wife
*noodle
perfectly light and slim for manhandling
>Cope posting has already begun
I'm gonna be over here having fun and finding out how to perform wild DMC combo strings in my "moviegame." I'll be sure to hop back on Ganker from time to time to farm tears.
>journos hate japan, rpgs, and FF
>make it into a mindless buton mashing westaboo grim brown and gray dmc copycat
>they love it
only retards are surprised
I wish Yoshida realised that journos are fags, and that it’s unwise to take them at face-value. Hope the game turns out good though
japs dont live in the west or talk with westerners. their only source of info is the press and awards. so they think were all in agreement with what western journos and award shows say. they have a sheep culture there and assume we are similarly sheep (projection)
I get why he’d assume so, I just wish he (and Japanese devs in general) could figure them for the charlatans they are. Listening to their views and taking them onboard can only be bad as things stand atm, and arguably always have been
This is also how 15 was successful. Braindead games for people that only want braindead content.
I fucking hate action RPGs, its the worst genre ever invented
apparently you've never played a turn based RPG or as I like to call it "60 hours of clicking words inside a text box".
Oh of course there are plenty of bad turn based RPGs but the thing is they can be also good, action RPGs can never be good because the elements contradict each other to the extreme.
Pure refined Action games? Love them
RPGs where your decisions actually matter because its turn based and your other party members get to do things? Love them
Combine them? Utter disaster
And TB/ATB game are fucking boring.
The system put in place for FF7:RE is the future and it plays amazingly.
It just needs Gambits, and Nomura has a winning formula.
ATB is at worst boring, I think it was a failed experiment because all ATB does is introduce a lot of dead time in the game, but at least the game is still turn based in a way so you are still having real tactics happen potentially.
So, what was the latest cope by barr-barr ?
That XIV was responsible for XVs failure ?
>XVI dead on arrival
>No party like XV
>Yoshitpiss is a hack
>All good demo criticism is by paid xiv-shills
>All "bad" demo cirticism is true and if you question it you are a xivdiscordchud
>XIV dead game, look at my streamcharts. Yoshitpiss on suicidewatch because he took xiv budget for DOA XVI
>Clive looks gay unlike the manly macho gigachad man that Noctis is
XV saved FF though
XIV is responsible for XVIs failure
>XV saved FF though
but the game is objectively bad. Also FF would have been fine even if XV ended up being the worse selling game in the franchise. The machine is too strong for the series to fail just by one game.
Objectively good
FF16 is killing ff
>bad game is good
>game that's not out is bad
what reality do you live in
>Soul of a PS2 game.
XVI team really trying to be Jack's game, eh?
I don't think I've seen barry this rabid since the gamefaq days. He's gonna do some schizo shit. Beware of feral abos, aussiefags.
Meant for
The rape threat is only the beginning. Either he wants us to create an echo chamber or we fold.
Barry really just wants us to agree with every thing he says, or we die. Don't let up.
>people still respond to xv-kun
2011? I was always sure Barry is underage. Only a child makes arguments the way he does.
He's a 75 IQ poojeet. That's all he's got.
What's Barry's current take on Forspoken? Trying to memory hole it?
probably best game ever and dlc will make it into goty candidate and SE sucks luminous cock and wants them to make ff17 which will surely be OMEGAKINO or something among these lines...
Well for one its better than ff16 especially after these recent previews show how ff16 cant maintain 60fps and is still damage sponge on regular enemies
>sells
lmao
LOL
you think ff16 will sell anywhere near ffxv let alone kh3 let alone FF7R let alone octopath 1?
Imagine posting this in a XVI
Imagine only wanting to talk about Barry, for hours every day, forever
Barry's meltdowns is the true FFXV-2
I'm waiting for the webms he promised us
He still hasn't proven to us he's even beaten the game yet, so I'm getting a little worried...
xiv chud timmy
the actually reality because we know ff16 is shit from the confirmed January leaks
How the mighty have fallen
Kill niggles. Behead niggles. Roundhouse kick a niggle into the concrete. Slam dunk a niggle baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy blacks. Defecate in a niggles food. Launch niggles into the sun. Stir fry niggles in a wok. Toss niggles into active volcanoes. Urinate into a niggles gas tank. Judo throw niggles into a wood chipper. Twist niggles heads off. Report niggles to the IRS. Karate chop niggles in half. Curb stomp pregnant black niggles. Trap niggles in quicksand. Crush niggles in the trash compactor. Liquefy niggles in a vat of acid. Eat niggles. Dissect niggles. Exterminate niggles in the gas chamber. Stomp niggle skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate niggles in the oven. Lobotomize niggles. Mandatory abortions for niggles. Grind niggle fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown niggles in fried chicken grease. Vaporize niggles with a ray gun. Kick old niggles down the stairs. Feed niggles to alligators. Slice niggles with a katana.
agniggle's philosophy
>7M views
I can already feel the niggle exhaustion without even checking the replies
Are these people now using the word “soul” unironically on their writing?
?t=706
It probably won't be a good game but it'll be a really good movie for women I guess
?t=706
I hope the Fallen aren't just angelic robots and have the design of Sin Eaters instead
Noctpiss dies a 30 year old virgin
This site has never and will never know another schizo on the level of barry.
tbf there will never be a series as autistic to discuss as FF is on Ganker
I think Dark Souls/Elden Ring fans are still a step above FF fans in terms of schizo power levels. They're the ones that doxxed general butch for making his usual fap stuff but now with melina.
There's a guy who defends 7R almost as hard but only when it gets brought up. Barry is infamous because he'll argue about XV in literally any thread, plus he's so infamous that others intentionally bait him or spend all their time discussing him even if he's not here.
I've never seen anyone defend 7R here. In fact there was a guy spamming emo pastas and seething about 7R non stop for a couple years after its launch.
>I've never seen anyone defend 7R here.
because it's shit
How about that Stella guy who got mentioned?
XVI fanboys are way worse. These people are obsessed with a boogeyman that doesn't exist. Just watch them start insulting me for just pointing this fact out. And I don't give a fuck about any Final Fantasy.
>And I don't give a fuck about any Final Fantasy.
then why are you in this thread
Means I'm neutral. Just because I'm not obsessed doesn't mean I don't have an interest in new releases coming out.
See? I told you these people are insane.
>See? I told you these people are insane.
it takes one to know one, right?
>I don't give a fuck about any Final Fantasy. I'm perfectly fine human being delving here and shit on a game I won't play because it lives rent free
You're gonna have a hard time accepting this barry but you're the dumbest gay in these threads and you're so obvious that you may as well tripfag.
The skin color is wrong
>ff16 (clive only)
level
hp
attack
defense
stagger
>ff15 stats (noctis, ignis, gladiolus, prompto, cor, aranea, iris, ravus, ardyn, glaive)
hp
mp
attack
defense
strength
vitality
magic
spirit
fire resistance
ice resistance
lighting resistance
dark resistance
shot resistance
light resistance
stamina
(hidden stat break)
(hidden stat weapon level)
(hidden stat attack level)
(hidden stat inflict vulnerable state)
oops forgot to add xv also has level and also skill level
XV sounds like bloated mess
Nah it's just an actual rpg unlike ff16
>XVI has no party, no hidden dungeons? no minigames, smaller areas than ffxv, less weapons than xv, worse graphics than xv
wow ff16 by cbu3 is unfinished...
>Nah it's just an actual rpg unlike ff16
The ones currently working at Square Enix seem to disagree
Too bad ff16 isn't an rpg as every preview today has stated
Too bad XV is far more interested in being the Ram Ranch of FFs instead of actually being a RPG.
xvi-kun why are you searching so hard for non official shit? meanwhile official ff14...
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/14244-the-key-to-final-fantasy-xvis-success-is-its-story-but-its-also-naoki-yoshidas-biggest-worry
>And you look back at the previous games, at FF15 - they had their story, but it wasn't complete. And then they try to make it complete, and then they promise some more story, but then they don't give us the story...
>“And so you had a lot of people that went into the series wanting us to give them a great story, and they didn't get that. And a lot of people were disappointed in that. Like, even if they liked the game, they're left wanting because one of those main pillars of the Final Fantasy series, stories, was not given to them.
XV is incomplete confirmed!
yoshitpiss is a hack! xv being incomplete is his headcanon!
Too bad XVI has no party, no hidden dungeons, no minigames, smaller areas than ffxv, less weapons than xv, worse graphics than xv
wow ff16 by cbu3 is incomplete...
its funny how poorly FF16 is selling too...
>has no party, no hidden dungeons, no minigames, smaller areas than ffxv, less weapons than xv, worse graphics than xv
Does not make a game incomplete
But XV is incomplete
>xv start fully ends in the base game
>the only reason dlc existed was to let you play as other characters, the story itself in base game is finished since launch
>ergo ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
>fully ends in the base game
but then it doesn't end
>was to let you play as other characters
cut content being re-added
>story itself in base game
with cutscenes added into game
>ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
clive being the only playable was planned from the start. XV had a full playable party, then cut to only noctis and then made you pay for the party members before being free.
XV is incomplete
It does end, nothing made in dlc extends beyond the ending ffxv launch had
it was added free to base game
the dlc were all made after base game
means leviathan ff16 is cut content gonna be sold as dlc
>added
which have nothing to do with understanding the main story since base xv fully ends its story
also even ff7 added scenes in the September 1997 release of ff7 after its initial January release didnt have things such as zacks death scene
ffxv being only noctis playable was planned since it became xv under tabata when they set the direction of ffxv proper
ff16 has no party and is thus incomplete in addition it has no hidden dungeons and is incomplete and no minigames as a AAA FF so incomplete
ffxv always had a full party since launch with stats and equipment and level up and hp bars and gear and skills etc
ff16 doesn't become its purposely incomplete
Barry can't even write properly, it's over for him.
what an embarrassment
I wonder how many copies rebirth will ship in the first 3 months
I'd predict a 40% drop, maybe worse.
fuck you bazzy you can't pretend noctis was only supposed be playable after versus XIII showed the bros gameplay
versus isnt xv
their gameplay in xv is superior to the barebones versus shit too
ff16 was made by having only the MC playable and that was told since the game was announced so that means that there aren't any plans of having more characters than clive under player's control (except torgal's commands) so that part is finished. I don't get what makes the "no party = unfinished game" argument valid in your head. Please explain...
Actually ffxv since tabata was announced as directed was stated to have only noctis playable while the rest are AI but even then they are a full party with stats and ability and weapon equipment and accessories and skills and hp bars and can use items on them and they do team attacks and can give commands to all of them
ff16 has no party and is therefore incomplete
by your own fucking logic ffxv isnt even incomplete because all of them are playable anyway and done for free and has been that way for over 6 years now
mainline FF are supposed to have parties
ff16 does not have a real party and torgal isnt even really a party member since its just an extension of clive since all 3 things it does are only for clive with no stats or anything attached
>mainline FF are supposed to have parties
who said?
The fact that its been a mainstay in all single player mainline FF
>xvi-kun still clinging to 90% free trial accounts
>The fact that its been a mainstay
Your own wish does not make a game incomplete
ff16 is objectively incomplete
it does not meet the basic requirements
its barely even an RPG
>it does not meet the basic requirements
Who set the requirements?
Can you point to sakaguchi saying this?
The requirements of having a party
>The requirements of having a party
Who set this requirment?
Because your opinions overrides that of a producer on the actual game ?
yoshitpiss is an incompetent hack
him dumbing down ff16 doesn't make it finished it makes it more unfinished than anything you could say for any ff
When you have a game as fast as DMC/Bayonetta/XVI or the majority of action rpg/hack&slash play out, stamina and mp are useless mechanics and would only serve to slow down the player. To get around the issue of spamming the same strongest moves (you know, the very same type of limiting factor you use in your examples) we now have cooldowns.
nope sorry 16 is a failure as a ff
Don't make me go Miyazaki on your ass barrington
No but you don't understand it's premium !
And it's got gore ! Gore ! (no t&a) but still. GORE !
>timmy still assblasted that japan is making fun of ff16 with miyazaki fake quote memes
Are you retarded or what?
Thousands of games don't have parties and they're still complete games.
Thousands of games aren't mainline FF so you have no argument you stupid ff14 troom
Actual FFXV won more awards than ff14 and is more beloved than ff14
>troom
>Actual FFXV won more awards than ff14 and is more beloved than ff14
I googled for both and I got this. Can you provide proof for both ff15 and ff14 awards from the same site?
>NAVGTR awards
I think FFXV would've been better if Cidney had breast cancer
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
XV also won more playstation awards, awards for its VA in japan and an award for the games AI stsyem
>ff16 has no party and is therefore incomplete
but party was never intended so there isn't in the completion que.
they intended to have a specific amount of playable characters.
That number is 1.
Playable character available = 1 as intended.
Project completed?
How does this make it incomplete.
>by your own fucking logic ffxv isnt even incomplete because all of them are playable anyway and done for free and has been that way for over 6 years now
If they left it like release day where you could only control Noctis and give commands to the rest of the party then it'd be complete but they didn't left it that way. A year later they made party member playable.
Adjusting party = adding something to a thing you deem incomplete or prone to improvement
>intended
then why are they trying to call it a party? stop coping because ff16 is a failure of a ff
its objective unfinished because it has no party, they make ff16 unfinished on purpose
so by your logic ff7 was incomplete because launch japan ff7 didn't have zacks death scene
kh2 is incomplete because roxas boss fight and lingering will and cave of remenerence and org 13 data fights and an additional 30 minutes of story cutscenes and the actual true secret ending movie were only added in kh2fm 2 years after kh2 released
zacks death scene was start of the compliation cancer and was better off removed
I'm talking about the original death scene in the ps1 version
it wasn't even there in the Japanese launch version
>unfinished on purpose
just like ff15 had unplayable characters untill a year after release?
Actually no because 15 has a functioning party with stats and equipment and menus and skills and gear and ability unlocks and team attacks, unlike ff16 which has no party
Then why did the make party members playable a year later if the party was already 100% complete? To make it 120%?
Because they wanted to expand on the side stuff in the game
their functionality as a party is literally identical, their combat as a party when switched simply added more combat variety, the actual party foundation is identical to base game because it already had a fully fleshed out party
ff16 meanwhile has no party
if you made ff16 a visual novel and removed combat you'd defend that too because youre a brainless cultist
>remenerence
I think it's time for bed
>nothing made in dlc extends beyond the ending
which is wrong
>means leviathan ff16 is cut content gonna be sold as dlc
nowhere is this said
>ffxv being only noctis playable was planned since it became xv under tabata
So tabata cut content already promised so they resold it as DLC
>has no party and is thus incomplete
under what condition
it's ok when tabata cuts content and resells it as dlc.
It's not ok when yoshitpiss cuts leviathan and resells it as dlc.
simple as
ep gladio parallel to chapter 7
ep ignis parallel to chapter 9
ep prompto parallel to chapter 12
comrades practically 0 story at all just uses the framework of the time between ch13 and ch14 to occur within with a created character
ep ardyn prequel takes place before chapter 1
royal pack expands chapter 14 with more side stuff and swaps the king behemoth boss out front the citadel with cerbetus, and added 3 king of lucis fights between ifrit and ardyn
nothing after you beat the mystic before chosing the photos is different to original way it ended
no other dlc is main story
it is known due to the confirmed ff16 leak
no ffxv is a different game to versus and ffxv under tabata was built around Noctis's abilities with the party as great ai and actual functions as a party still with stats and command's and weapons and hp bars etc
meanwhile ff16 is unfinished and has no party so it is unfinished by default
>parallel to chapter 12
and changes the ending
>ep ardyn prequel takes place before chapter 1
and the end
>it is known
it is not
>no ffxv is a different game to versus
XV had playable party members until tabata cut them out
>so it is unfinished by default
under what condition?
it changes nothing, ep prompto is literally parallel to events only in chapter 12
>at the
nothing, it literally takes place 30 years+ before chapter 1
it is
tabata xv is not nomuras shit
stop coping already
tabata stated ffxv since he was director was always planned with only noct playable and the party is AI with commands and stats and abilities and still have hp bars and have link attacks
the condition that ff16 has no actual party
by your logic ffo sop is unfinished because they made the party playable in a patch after the game released
>by your logic ffo sop is unfinished because they made the party playable in a patch after the game released
Yes, if you went into some SoP threads you'd see that same argument.
>it changes nothing
the ending
>it literally takes place 30 years
and then the end
>tabata xv is not nomura
no wonder its not good
>tabata stated ffxv since he was director
So there was a time before that the party was playable.
>the condition that ff16 has no actual party
Who says it needs to?
>by your logic ffo sop is unfinished
I didn't say it needs to have a party
Nothing in the ending has anything to do with chapter 12
>then the
noct walking up to ardyn is literally before the end of the game and is likely just the same scene in chapter 14, it literally says it continues in chapter 14
nomura was fired for xv
>before
not tabata as sole director so doesn't count
the fact FF does it in every mainline
so you're coping
ff16 is unfinished because it has no party
>Nothing in the ending
changes the ending
>ardyn dlc
also changes the ending
>so doesn't count
>so doesn't count
>so doesn't count
ha ha ha
changes nothing
also changes nothing
>no argument
cope
Me
>I set the rules
ok lol, so you have as much as authority as I do over the FF series kek.
Nomura you fucker I told a million times you get away from Ganker
So if FF16 was a visual novel with no combat, no stats you'd defend it because thats "what they wanted to make"?
Holy fuck you have no standards
>what they wanted to make
Correct, because that's what FF has always been. And that has actual FF devs stating such.
>you have no standards
So you made up your own requirements, got angry that it didn't have them, refuse to show where any devs have said that it needs to have your requirements and then get angry when proven wrong.
XVI-kun outing himself as a complete and utter fucking retard
>noooooo the devs have to say the thing that has been in ff for decades has to still be in, stop being mad at my mmo hack dev producer who has never made a single player game in his life
>the devs have to say the thing that has been in ff for decades has to still be in
correct, where is your source stating otherwise?
Unless you have something to provide then the line can be drawn anywhere from person to person.
I could say FFXV doesn't have a proper party because the first 10 games gave me control over what actions my teammates would take, whereas FFXV gave the bros some autonomy since it was an action game. This take would be as valid as yours.
>this quote BTFO XV-kun so hard he left Ganker and retreated to Twitter for a whole day
XV is confirmed incomplete
XVI has no party or minigames or hidden dungeons so confirmed incomplete
XV Is confirmed incomplete. Confirmed by a SE board member.
SE board member's headcanon! I say it's complete and you will accept it!
Actually Yoshitpiss confirmed XVI is incomplete because it has no party or hidden dungeons or minigames
>Actually Yoshitpiss confirmed XV is incomplete
correct
Wow based yoshitpiss confirmed that
FF3
FF4
FF15
FF16
are incomplete because they have no minigames.
>fishing
>pinball
>monster colosseum fight gambling
>chocobo races
>car time trial race
retard
so much effort for so many minigames, if only they put efford in releasing a proper finished game kekw
they did
and the minigame people werent the ones doing stuff like level design or whatever so what's your point?
>FF3 and FF4 didn't have minigames (only FF4 on DS) so they are incomplete final fantasy games
>nooo muh [ff from before a ff hallmark became a recurring thing] didn't do it reeee
>NO I HAVE TO MOVE THE GOAL NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE TOOK A SECOND AND GOOGLED WHICH FF GAMES HAD MINIGAMES
FF1 and FF2 had minigames, FF3-4-5 didn't have so [ff from before a ff hallmark became a recurring thing] is still shit excuse
>counting remasters
FF4 didn't have, only DS remaster version
FF1 had puzzle minigame in the original:
>The 15 Puzzle is a secret minigame in the original Final Fantasy that can be played after having obtained the ship; the player must hold the A button while in the ship and press B several times until the game appears. It exists in nearly every version.
>already backpedalling
already can't defend your argument. warp strike to someone else fag... ran out of magic grenades?
wow and ff16 has no mp or magic... its just dmc guns... no more like a peashooter...
>Clive can use ranged attack magic depending on eikon equip, Fire, Aero, Stone etc
>Clive can use Fire/Fira/Firaga depending on how much you charge the ranged attack (triangle)
>Can be mixed into combos
>Somehow throwing a magic grenade is better and more fun than the potential of whatever clive can do with the peashooter
>has no mp
>has no magical stat
>there is no functional difference between any "magic" they are all just neros DMC gun
>its extremely weak
>no elemental affinities so pointless
meanwhile xv magic is OP as fuck, extremely powerful in what you craft and has
magic cost
magic stat
elemental affinities
can manually aim it to target like DD magic or lock on select target to instacast it like in KH
uses elemency mana points to craft
in addition you have mp for warp magic, warpstrike, phase, ring magic with holy, death and alterna
all extremely powerful and can build full mage builds
>meanwhile xv magic is OP as fuck
devs had to add an item so it doesn't damage party members because people complained how stupid that was lmao
t-that's what makes it OP you xvi-kun
>meanwhile xv magic is
grenades lol
>select target to instacast it like in KH
kek, xv being anything like Kekdom Sharts
I ain't reading all that, you just gather elemental nodes, craft a magic grenade using ingredients to increase potency/damage and toss it. lmao
Or is the "hold O to kill" ring of luci magic as well?
What did she mean by this?
I can't believe the cute and funny version of Jill looks better than her current la creatura version
Romantic, intimate sex with Jill.
I miss her.
Is 'her' supposed to be Stella or Stellafag?
Just Stella. Stellafag is 'he' though.
If they write this way you just know it's gonna be bad.
Whoever at Square agreed to make this game a PS5 exclusive needs to be fired on the spot.
Rough, violent doggystyle sex with Garuda.
There is one thing I want to know about the game, and it is how much of the garuda girl in human form there is in it. Also, if I get to fuck her.
>Also, if I get to fuck her
Clive is for Jill. Benedikta has also likely had sex with 3 other major male characters.
4 major male characters if you include ___me___
It would really suck big time if the gameplay footage back from march in that dark fort was already a significant portion of her screentime. Same goes for other dominants as well.
I'm starting to think she'll be killed off. Hugo and Clive seem to straight out despise each other, even after the final timeskip and recent previews do confirm that Hugo has something going on with Benedikta
She also hasn't up in any footage with red outfit Clive
Everything about this game screams soulless though. I literally cannot even remember what any character from the trailers looked like, or know any premise for the story. What’s the hook?
Is it because it looks like a ps2 game?
Thank you for posting this the moment you saw someone call 7R bad
I think it's really unfair that so many people are hating this game just because it's a temporary Sony exclusive, aside from those that hate it because it's not 'diverse' enough. I mean, it's not the game's fault and you can play it later on PC. And judging from the things developers have said, there is a lot of passion behind this project.
Yeah. Though I think it's kinda funny to see Zeldabros, even outside of Ganker, will crucify anyone that even dares to imply that XVI will give totk a run for its money for goty
https://twitter.com/ReforgeGaming/status/1660753269528969219
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER
I still believe he will be in charge of a mainline one day. And it will be glorious.
>left: project that was taken away from him
>right: project that has been shelved indefinitely
>"sorry I don't lose"
This is a falseflag image to make Nomura and his fans look bad, isn't it?
VSXIII will always be it's own thing, after all XV is a complete reboot of that as nothing of the original remains.
And as unfortunate as it is, Verum Rex in indeed very much the property of Disney. Doesn't however stop him from working on his entirely own original idea from scratch.
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER
the heart's true nature is to never let go
>Soul of a ps2 game
>Ps2 had no games
>Therefore this game has no soul
>pepe poster
>abhorrent nonsense post
pick two
>FF15 had a monster arena
>at launch, no less
what the fuck, how come I'm only finding out about this now
I put like 100 hours into it back in the day
>XV isn't incomplete
>btw wtf happened to insomnia and Regis
>btw why did Gladio leave the party and come back with a scar
>btw what happened to prompto when he fell off the train
>btw how and why did Ignis get blinded
>btw why is Luna's brother a zombie in Ardyn's basement
>btw wtf is Ardyn's backstory
>also why do we never see Iris and Cidney after the timeskip
all that in-game on day 1!
Easy. Tabata is hack.
it's called Final Fantasy! Where's the fantasy if everything's answered? No-mystery fag doesn't want his brain to hurt thinking or speculating...
explained in ch1 and ch2
irrelevant, no different to when cid or whoever else leaves ff16s failure of a party and none of that is important to noctis story in being true king
ch10 and ch12 already explains ravus was sentenced to death and blamed for the attack on altissia
literally in the game as he literally tells you in chapter13, as does Bahamut and as does talcott in chapter 14 and as does the cosmogony books throughout the game
because theyre not main story important theyre side characters
he has more backstory present than sephiroth or kefka did in their debut games
cope
ff16 is incomplete
Should've named them Sir Biggs and Sir Wedge or some shit
They're probably saving Biggs and Wedge for some of Cid's henchmen or something
Could very much be goofy mooks in one of the other kingdoms. Which is what im hoping for.
Booker, catch!
>you need to play the Ratchet games to get the full story of FFXV
what on Earth was Tabata thinking?
Look out clives gonna cast blizzard!
>pic of Clive about to murder Tabata & Barry
based
>xvi-kun advocates for illegal activity
Says the wannabe rapist
Nathan we've already established that was you, stop projecting.
Nice shoop, not enough to cover your trail though.
You mean like past FF titles ?
Cope nathan
I didn't know I could get in trouble for telling people to go get shot by a fictional character. Is that an Australian law?
You're gonna live long enough to see XVI being remade with black people
>barry is still at it
You're the only person who likes XV
Get over it
Better yet, he has killed the game discussion here completely.
You can't talk about XV because of Barry, it's so fucking funny.
It's funny that you can't start a thread about FFXV even thought he'd be the most passionate about it posting trivial fun facts and builds and combos. You can only talk about FFXV on FFXIV and FFXVI threads...
A XV thread would die signifcantly faster than a XVI thread. Hell any other FF game from the 4th/5th/6th/7th gen would last longer.
Barry may be passionate about his favorite game, but he can't handle the slightest criticism and effectively kills the thread. Anyone who genuienly like XV is immediately made aware what of type schizophrenic is attached to it like maggots to a corpse.
>entered my first FF15 thread after Prompto's DLC came out
>I encountered a funny glitch so I thought I'd convert it to a webm and post it for others to see
>some insane schizo came to the game's defense and flamed me for it
and that's how I discovered Barry for the first time...
xvi-kun malding
FFXV was an incomplete disappointment
Am I malding when I'm saying that there are no FFXV threads but you can only talk about FFXV on FFXIV and FFXVI threads? Where's the lie?
You're malding because nobody ever praises ff16
you didn't answer my question tho, no one praises ff16 but I don't see threads about praising ff15 either...
I see way more people positive on xv than xvi
and if anything dissuading them from postings its retarded ff14 mmo trannies and nomurafags a vocal minority who mald over it non stop
>I see way more people positive on xv than xvi
Im seeing the opposite.
Why is ff16 so atrocious that it sets the ff14 chuds to seethe over 15 immediately lmao
Then why aren't there FF15 threads so I can go into a talk with others? Why do I always find FF15 talk in FF16 and FF14 threads? If it's so beloved then why are we the vocal minority who keep on malding on their threads?
But all of those previews praised XVI...
just like they praised forspoken
hell I even saw them say the same exact thing that "ff16 has potential but remains to be seen if they can keep it up in the final game"
Yes ff16 is unfinished and it wi sell worse than every ff ever
>So you're coping because its actually useful magical instead of ff16 pointless non magic with no fucking stats or elemental affinities
Hold O to combo
Hold O to kill using ring
Hold square to dodge
Hold square to block QRT
OH MY! WHAT A DIVERSE AND COMPLICATED GAMEPLAY! YES I'M COPING!
>she's literally me fr
>I wonder that you summoned us at all
Damn, didn't know Benedikta was an esl
Your mutt wife is ugly, get a refund.
Haha it's funny because that's her voice actor xd
Sometimes that’s okay
what did she mean by this
ps2 games didn't have so much gayry it got banned by saudi arabia
not buying
>Soul of a PS2 game
they used this very same phrase to insult Stranger of Paradise. God i wish all these wannabe journos would get hanged
>souls of a PS2 game
So either X, X-II, XI or XII, none of which were good.
>this is still pure Final Fantasy
Uttering meaningless placatory phrases like this won't convince me to play your game.
That was Stranger of Paradise
>soul of a ps2 game
Kino rivaling FFXII incoming
heres yor reason for the arab bann. not some lbtq fake nonsense
Oh no, dion being gay is still real. And SA banned it for that reason.
kek real. based on what some fake Ganker leaks
kek
they didnt gave a damn about blacks, you actually belive they will risk a shit by makin the most beloved Eikon gay...double kek
dion being gay is real
Everything in the leak has been proven true so far and that includes stuff not even in the preview marketting demos and instead just things mentioned randomly by Yoshi-P or koji fox that confirned the leak like Yoshi-P saying clive parents have an intimate scene in bed unprompted which confirm the leak again
Hey Barry why aren't you posting screenshots of Amazon lists today?
>50 and 68
oh no no no it cant even hit top 30 yet
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_pg_2?_encoding=UTF8&pg=2
>100$ fightan
really moron
cucklive lost
>*reverse chokeholds you*
Who's holding all the cards now huh ?
>Noct was Canadian all along
I knew it
>soul of a ps2 game
So it's going to be a cinematic experience? Weird flex but Ok.
Final fantasy has been dead for over 20 years now I don’t know why the fuck it has mutated into but square has just increasingly alienated every fan it ever had pre FFXIII. I believe the entire downfall of the company is nomuras fault, he was made narrative lead in too many projects and all he actually wants to do is draw cute boys, I hope he dies, he is a fucking hack, the biggest hack there has ever been in any industry. Fuck that guy so much.
Idk I heard it had some niggles
>AIEEEEE we can't have comfy ff15 thread because vocal minority ff14/ff16 schizos attack our threads
said the ff15-kun in yet another ff16 thread while probably posting in a ff14 thread at the same time...
I kneel
Reading some of the previews, it seems like there is more character establishment and plot in the prologue of FF16 than the entirety of FF15.
I have my doubts game journos would be able to beat a PS2 game.
I'm kinda confused, Clive's magic attack in between melee is like Nero's sword-charge gimmick where you have to time it on hit/animation or it's just input?
Why make it a PS5 exclusive though? The know that they are eventually going to release it on PC/steam anyway. Its like they are intentionally alienating 2/3 of market for no good reason. They are basically leaving a bunch of money on the table and hoping that if they come back later that it may still be there. From a business perspective it just seems retarded, you should always want to maximize your reach/accessibility of any product that you sell. Otherwise you are actively choosing to make less money.
Square gets support from Sony on developing the game, Square only has to worry about developing for one platform during the development cycle. Sony has no doubt paid for, or paid for a good chunk, marketing.
It also isn't retarded because if they take a year or so to port it then they're going to catch people who would double dip and bought the game twice. Once a year ago on the console launch and then a year later on PC.
Look at how well P5R's port did, despite it taking years after the fact and even being on game pass.
Because Sony paid for it along a support team to help out with their platform. Probably offered more than enough for SE to consider going exclusive for longer than 6 months. Maybe Sony still understands "FF" has mostly been synonymous with Playstation ever since FF7 but they are also aware of it's diminishing brand power they didn't go full 100% exclusive.
Starvation is good for games, look at AAA games anon. When you have a winner, and you deliver on one platform, you are able to generate the overwhelming praise, and envy that will self perpetuate until one year later, then praise hits the game again when everyone experiences it. That's how much SE is banking on the success of their game, and why not? They took the best lessons given from recent games, smoothed out their shitty engine that took them a decade, and put a guy at the lead who revived a literally dead MMO who has had years of game development experience.
The last point is so important you might not fully comprehend what it means. You could of given him Halo for example and he would have saved the series after 3, just by his ability to pick the right people for a team.
considering that PS2 was the last console generation with any soul, yes