Buying exclusivity is cancer, and he said in an interview that publishers will decide who wins the storefront wars so appealing to consumers with things like store features is pointless. That's reason enough for me to hate him.
He's playing the long game. Using tactics from his enemies to groom children into using the Unreal Editor for Fortnite so these kids move to Unreal by inertia in the future.
>epicpajeets coming outta streetshitwork to shill chang engine since garden gnomenity is failing
not interested in garden gnomenity
not interested in tencent engine
not interested in globohomo-backed garbage like O3DE and such
>Source doesn't seem to be a good engine for anything other than FPS games honestly.
This is where EA's generalization of the Frostbite engine caused trouble.
It's an FPS-specific engine that EA forced to be used for ACT in order to save money on licensing fees. the result was a huge amount of problems due to lack of necessary features.
>too lazy to make a proper SDK or documentation so they don't release it to the public
i hate nuvalve so goddamn much, fuck anyone who bought into their lootboxes and le hats bullshit you're the reason we don't have half life 3
How so? >Unreal >Make 200k and 200k installs >Owns nothing to Epic >Unity >Make 200k and 200k installs >Pray your users don't install your games multiple times in the coming years or you'll be building up debt to the the Israeli scum.
You are genuinely fucking retarded if you think it actually works this way or could hold in any court should they think it could actually work this way.
NTA but that's what they said - massive negative reaction made them change it a little like claiming it won't count installations on same machine (implying unique ID based telemetry and data collection that would require really solid justification under EU laws) and finally admitted they don't even have any system to verify that and will literally just guess. Why you defend corporation?
>Why you defend corporation
Why do you retards always think if somebody tells you you are talking nonsense he is an agent of the other side?
You literally explained in detail how it won't happen the way some anons are hoping and dreaming it will.
And? It still changes little and in some aspects even worse. And if they pull it off the way I described anyway, everyone will get their ass smacked, not to.mention showing bad example to other companies about what they can (and cannot) do. Meanwhile you defend company and their retarded actions like if nothing happened. Everything fucking happened.
If people wouldn't react so negatively to NFTs, publisher's would gladly push this shit and ruin gaming forever, while people like you would sit and claim that "nothing happened".
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>You defend
There it is again, I'm not defending anything I'm saying it won't happen like you retards are imagining it you stupid moron mainly because this whole concept is nonsense and will get them their ass handed.
It is objectively not. Unreal Engine costs nothing until you make a million dollars in revenue and it can't ever bankrupt you. Unity can bankrupt you and can literally cost you more than you ever get from your game.
Damn, you're dumb. Hope your parents had more than one and stopped drinking during one of the others.
KYS
You are genuinely fucking retarded if you think it actually works this way or could hold in any court should they think it could actually work this way.
That is exactly how they described it and everything they've said otherwise is a physically impossible lie. They have NO way of separating first installs from later installs despite claiming otherwise. All the other shit they said is blatantly false too.
>5% of your profits and only if you make past $1 mil
It's an extremely fair deal and UE5 doesn't try to sell you on premium accounts or paywall A YEAR WORTH OF UPDATES. Unity was shit even before this change
Why does Ganker hate timmy again? He's literally saving gaming. The concept of EGS is good and only autists cry they have to download it to play some games.
Tim might be a buffoon when it comes to his store but he knows what he's doing with his engine.
Why does Ganker hate timmy again? He's literally saving gaming. The concept of EGS is good and only autists cry they have to download it to play some games.
Why does Ganker hate timmy again? He's literally saving gaming. The concept of EGS is good and only autists cry they have to download it to play some games.
Epic Game Store client still sucks. Like they can't fix the most simple of things. The performance is terrible, it has the most basic features and nothing else, clicking things takes an eternity.
>Schlomo Homo and his gaggle of fuckwits sink their company with no survivors >order another box of popeyes and shitpost some more on twitter
In this brief moment ole Timmy finally understood what its like to be Gaben. Just sit back and watch the world burn.
>He's like Gaben.
lol unironically stop sucking corporate dick. tim was aiming at making the most dev friendly free engine since the mid 90s. Gaben invented turning mods into online casinos.
if the unity shit goes through what stops timmy from doing the same shit? tbh this opens the precendent to all available game engines to cuck you in the future, big game companies that used unity for smaller projects like square l will think 1000 times before using nonproprietary engine again
Timmy has Fortnitebux and doesn't need to squeeze money out of UE. The Apple trial a few years ago showed that Unreal Engine only makes around $100 million a year while they are making like $5 billion a year off Fortnite.
Timmy actually cares about the integrity of both his company and the game's industry. UE has been a professional standard for a large majority of games for fucking years yet after Epic made it big with Fortnite they've used said money to push their engine even further and has sunk a lot of money in an attempt to make a more fair PC games store vs steam. Timmy is objectively good.
>if the unity shit goes through what stops timmy from doing the same shit?
tim wants UE to become the de facto industry standard and epic to become the gateway into the industry, he can afford to not be purely profit driven since fortnite still prints money
>Creates a super popular game engine >Uses the funds to become a massive laughing stock
I mean, he's still insanely wealthy, but how the hell is it possible for a man to mishandle his reputation so badly?
>unity implements a sales-tiered pricing structure >gets reamed >"everybody switch to unreal!!!" >unreal already does exactly the same thing
Based tbqh, he won
This will stop being a problem soon. Verse is coming. And if you really want your C# slop, C# (and nim) are going to become community supported languages (Most likely C# is going to be the most popular). The Verse implementation in the engine opened the path for other languages to be integrated more naturally without source modifications.
Honestly if he was a good guy he would do the same thing Unity did. Imagine being able to bankrupt shitty studios and publishers by botting uninstalls. We are so close to actually being able to make EA and Ubisoft lose billions by just clicking icons
He didn't win shit, this unity debacle only made people aware of relying on proprietary software. It will also hurt UE and is bad for this discount Carmack–discount Gaben–ugly dog-looking–autistic–microsoft bootlicker–chicom sellout. Go lose some more court cases, Timmy.
He’s unironically the good guy for now
I've always been team Tim
Ganker loves to joke, but deep down we all know one simple fact: Tim wins again.
>Stuttering games
>Unreal Engine
Pick both
Only to you, yeah
where did timmy touch you?
Buying exclusivity is cancer, and he said in an interview that publishers will decide who wins the storefront wars so appealing to consumers with things like store features is pointless. That's reason enough for me to hate him.
good morning sirs
He's playing the long game. Using tactics from his enemies to groom children into using the Unreal Editor for Fortnite so these kids move to Unreal by inertia in the future.
>epicpajeets coming outta streetshitwork to shill chang engine since garden gnomenity is failing
not interested in garden gnomenity
not interested in tencent engine
not interested in globohomo-backed garbage like O3DE and such
NO,Unreal is for gays.
eternal vaporware
A game engine in the hand is better then two in the bush.
thanks but i'm holding out for id tech 12
another engine no one outside of Zenimax will ever get to touch
i'm sure they'll have changed their policy by 2045
>Zenimax
Bethesda, obsessed with creating engines, is the most trashy part of this company.
>Only person they have gave the SDK to is Garry
Maybe Valve should stop being LAZY FUCKING gayS and let normal people user it.
Titanfall games were made in Source(1).
And they switched to Unreal for Jedi games.
Source doesn't seem to be a good engine for anything other than FPS games honestly.
The problem was that only boomers grew with Quake engine development and they had troubles hiring new staff.
>Source doesn't seem to be a good engine for anything other than FPS games honestly.
This is where EA's generalization of the Frostbite engine caused trouble.
It's an FPS-specific engine that EA forced to be used for ACT in order to save money on licensing fees. the result was a huge amount of problems due to lack of necessary features.
spaghetti code
>too lazy to make a proper SDK or documentation so they don't release it to the public
i hate nuvalve so goddamn much, fuck anyone who bought into their lootboxes and le hats bullshit you're the reason we don't have half life 3
>does nothing
lmfao not even close and Unreal is still more expensive than Unity even with the new changes
How so?
>Unreal
>Make 200k and 200k installs
>Owns nothing to Epic
>Unity
>Make 200k and 200k installs
>Pray your users don't install your games multiple times in the coming years or you'll be building up debt to the the Israeli scum.
Damn, you're dumb. Hope your parents had more than one and stopped drinking during one of the others.
You are genuinely fucking retarded if you think it actually works this way or could hold in any court should they think it could actually work this way.
Enlighten me, then.
>actually works this way
NTA but that's what they said - massive negative reaction made them change it a little like claiming it won't count installations on same machine (implying unique ID based telemetry and data collection that would require really solid justification under EU laws) and finally admitted they don't even have any system to verify that and will literally just guess. Why you defend corporation?
>Why you defend corporation
Why do you retards always think if somebody tells you you are talking nonsense he is an agent of the other side?
You literally explained in detail how it won't happen the way some anons are hoping and dreaming it will.
And? It still changes little and in some aspects even worse. And if they pull it off the way I described anyway, everyone will get their ass smacked, not to.mention showing bad example to other companies about what they can (and cannot) do. Meanwhile you defend company and their retarded actions like if nothing happened. Everything fucking happened.
If people wouldn't react so negatively to NFTs, publisher's would gladly push this shit and ruin gaming forever, while people like you would sit and claim that "nothing happened".
>You defend
There it is again, I'm not defending anything I'm saying it won't happen like you retards are imagining it you stupid moron mainly because this whole concept is nonsense and will get them their ass handed.
It is objectively not. Unreal Engine costs nothing until you make a million dollars in revenue and it can't ever bankrupt you. Unity can bankrupt you and can literally cost you more than you ever get from your game.
KYS
That is exactly how they described it and everything they've said otherwise is a physically impossible lie. They have NO way of separating first installs from later installs despite claiming otherwise. All the other shit they said is blatantly false too.
Tim Swiney is unironically the good guy here.
Does unreal cuts 5% from revenue or profit? Does threshold counts revenue or profit?
>5% of your profits and only if you make past $1 mil
It's an extremely fair deal and UE5 doesn't try to sell you on premium accounts or paywall A YEAR WORTH OF UPDATES. Unity was shit even before this change
Someone post the dog, I forgot to save it the last couple of times
thx
but everything he owns is a complete failure
boy i wish i had ten figures worth of failure
wait long enough by the river
why does he look so mouse-like
unreal is <4% of their revenue though, even if more people use it they're not gonna make much more profit compared to zoomers and vbucks
any number is small compared to infinity
>They make more revenue from the Epic Store than from Unreal
Timmy needs to open source Unreal before stepping down.
uh, it is open source
uh, it's not
anyone can read the source. it is open.
Tim is:
>the savior of gaming
>generous
>putting his mouth where his money is
Tim might be a buffoon when it comes to his store but he knows what he's doing with his engine.
Learning that Tim essentially gives devs a blank check to make their games EGS exclusive is extremely based for indie devs
>@j(ournalist)ew
hmmm, there's something here... I can't quite put my finger on it...
Why does Ganker hate timmy again? He's literally saving gaming. The concept of EGS is good and only autists cry they have to download it to play some games.
it's just steamies mad that he's pointing out that a 30% cut for digital dist is fucking bullshit
why doesn't he get angry about Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo?
Steam set that standard for Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to follow. Stop trying to deflect to other corporations like you always do.
Console manufactures put 25% tax on physical copies in the first place.
does physical distribution come with more or less overhead costs than digital distribution?
wheres my fucking discount timmy you lying shit
Good evening, sir.
Epic Game Store client still sucks. Like they can't fix the most simple of things. The performance is terrible, it has the most basic features and nothing else, clicking things takes an eternity.
>Schlomo Homo and his gaggle of fuckwits sink their company with no survivors
>order another box of popeyes and shitpost some more on twitter
In this brief moment ole Timmy finally understood what its like to be Gaben. Just sit back and watch the world burn.
>Timmy cries about monopolies
>Is about to have a monopoly on the engine market
No one man should have all that power.
He's like Gaben. When your competition is so bad that you have become the de facto monopoly.
>He's like Gaben.
lol unironically stop sucking corporate dick. tim was aiming at making the most dev friendly free engine since the mid 90s. Gaben invented turning mods into online casinos.
>billionaire
>lives in an unfurnished motel room eating junk food cooding all day long
he's just like me fr
repeat after me, chuddies:
"i was wrong and i am sorry, tim. please forgive me"
if the unity shit goes through what stops timmy from doing the same shit? tbh this opens the precendent to all available game engines to cuck you in the future, big game companies that used unity for smaller projects like square l will think 1000 times before using nonproprietary engine again
>if the unity shit goes through what stops timmy from doing the same shit?
wisdom, unity is in no way acting in its own interests
Timmy has Fortnitebux and doesn't need to squeeze money out of UE. The Apple trial a few years ago showed that Unreal Engine only makes around $100 million a year while they are making like $5 billion a year off Fortnite.
Most CEOs are not like John Riccitiello and don't want to destroy their own company.
Timmy actually cares about the integrity of both his company and the game's industry. UE has been a professional standard for a large majority of games for fucking years yet after Epic made it big with Fortnite they've used said money to push their engine even further and has sunk a lot of money in an attempt to make a more fair PC games store vs steam. Timmy is objectively good.
>Timmy actually cares about the integrity of both his company and the game's industry.
You made me smirk, here's your (You).
Epic is sort of privately owned so the pressure to commit suicide is not automatically built in. I still wouldn't trust UE long term.
>if the unity shit goes through what stops timmy from doing the same shit?
tim wants UE to become the de facto industry standard and epic to become the gateway into the industry, he can afford to not be purely profit driven since fortnite still prints money
This is just communist bullshit and not how markets work
>Creates a super popular game engine
>Uses the funds to become a massive laughing stock
I mean, he's still insanely wealthy, but how the hell is it possible for a man to mishandle his reputation so badly?
>unity implements a sales-tiered pricing structure
>gets reamed
>"everybody switch to unreal!!!"
>unreal already does exactly the same thing
Based tbqh, he won
yeah but no one wants to work in C++
This will stop being a problem soon. Verse is coming. And if you really want your C# slop, C# (and nim) are going to become community supported languages (Most likely C# is going to be the most popular). The Verse implementation in the engine opened the path for other languages to be integrated more naturally without source modifications.
tbf UE sepples is so clean it's basically java
tim even made the unreal tournament open source
https://github.com/JimmieKJ/unrealTournament
Honestly if he was a good guy he would do the same thing Unity did. Imagine being able to bankrupt shitty studios and publishers by botting uninstalls. We are so close to actually being able to make EA and Ubisoft lose billions by just clicking icons
Doesn't Unrral Engine charge a fuckton to even use? It's still more than Unity.
5% of gross if you make a million, nothing if you make less.
>goes open source
yeah Unity is pretty much dead no-
>only takes 5% royalty after your first million
Unity is completely fucking dead
If you didn't know it by then, it's your own fault for investing in Unity
Do the needful sirs!
Unity going full retard doesn't automatically make Tim Sweeney a good guy.
there is no monopoly. if you don't like it, create you own engine
He didn't win shit, this unity debacle only made people aware of relying on proprietary software. It will also hurt UE and is bad for this discount Carmack–discount Gaben–ugly dog-looking–autistic–microsoft bootlicker–chicom sellout. Go lose some more court cases, Timmy.
>wins
>still acts like a spoiled manchild about steam
I don't get it