Is it explicit though? I'm not sure I'd call a simile comparing something to wings, and a metaphor playing on the simile "explicit" confirmation of wings.
>betrayed Sauron >betrayed
That implies the Balrog was working for him. They served Morgoth as fallen Maiar. Had Sauron tried ordering about the Balrog it would have told him to go eat a dick.
the balrog took a look at the ring and told Frodo it would not be wise to ask it to do so, for the ring would be too tempting to use and would corrupt him
Stronger than Sauron, possibly, given time. Tolkien noted that the Ring “belongs” to Sauron, but possession matters, which is why a conflict of ownership between Gandalf and Sauron would have been a razor’s edge too close to call on who would have retained the Ring. The Balrog would have likely been much the same, possibly more so and possibly less depending on how much the Morgoth tie changes things.
My assumption was that its flames were snuffed so all that was left was the "fuel" its own vile essence and a mixture of whatever effluence was found in the dark waters beneath the mountain.
I did once. Tasted pretty damn good but then I made the mistake to look up how they are slaughtered and it made me a little sick since the are considerably more intelligent than chickens. I'd still eat them again though.
Holy shit really? I was kidding when I asked that, but genuinely curious too. I knew people ate their eggs, but for some reason hadn't considered their meat. Was it good? I imagine meat from that big of a bird is tough and dry.
Holy shit really? I was kidding when I asked that, but genuinely curious too. I knew people ate their eggs, but for some reason hadn't considered their meat. Was it good? I imagine meat from that big of a bird is tough and dry.
Ostrich is super tasty. If you've ever had grass fed beef it's very very similar to that. I'm in the UK and you can just get it in supermarkets here some times. Would recommend giving it a shot should you ever get a good opportunity to.
When Morgoth was still around, most of the later works place Sauron/Gorthaur/Thu as pretty solidly in the position of lieutenant, second in command, so they might retain their loyalty out of adherence to Morgoth’s established hierarchy.
Of course, they might also disagree with Sauron’s new position of “control and enslave the world” instead of Morgoth’s position of “destroy the world and reduce it all to chaos”
Sauron by taking centre stage and setting himself up to do his own thing is pretty solidly breaking from Morgoth’s intent and hierarchy. I don’t think Sauron could rely on a Balrog showing him any loyalty at all, myself. Even Sauron’s position as lieutenant at the time shouldn’t carry that much weight because the actual authority derived from Morgoth. They might have obeyed him then because he was placed above them, but thr power/authority to do that derived from Morgoth, and Morgoth is gone.
I think if Sauron had thought there was a genuine possibility for getting loyal Balrogs to join him, he would have already tried it like he did when he corrupted Saruman.
That's the Balrog's choice.
Yes, explicitly. Tolkien fans will argue a coin-toss if it means believing their headcanon.
Is it explicit though? I'm not sure I'd call a simile comparing something to wings, and a metaphor playing on the simile "explicit" confirmation of wings.
Yep.
Yeah
Why didn't the balrog just fly the ring to mordo?
It didn't get the ring.
Because even the trees fricking walk in that children's story. Everything walks, everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the birds walked too.
>I wouldn't be surprised if the birds walked too.
>children's story
Cheeky.
The ring it didn't have? Also if it got it it probably would have kept it and betrayed Sauron.
>betrayed Sauron
>betrayed
That implies the Balrog was working for him. They served Morgoth as fallen Maiar. Had Sauron tried ordering about the Balrog it would have told him to go eat a dick.
Not everything that has wings can fly over long distances.
The wings are made of shadow and flame and are useless for flying.
So what's their use then?
Buffeting foes
Why would you serve food to them?
They get too full to fight back
the balrog took a look at the ring and told Frodo it would not be wise to ask it to do so, for the ring would be too tempting to use and would corrupt him
I love how many zoomers and newbies completely missed this joke
Excellent post
What will happen if balrog gets the ring? Will he become more powerful than Sauron or even Morgoth?
Stronger than Sauron, possibly, given time. Tolkien noted that the Ring “belongs” to Sauron, but possession matters, which is why a conflict of ownership between Gandalf and Sauron would have been a razor’s edge too close to call on who would have retained the Ring. The Balrog would have likely been much the same, possibly more so and possibly less depending on how much the Morgoth tie changes things.
Reckon so. Whether they're functional or not is a different matter, but it can project flame and shadow into the image of wings.
John Howe and Alan Lee draw them with wings, and whatever they do in the legendarium is dogma for me
Based. Also let's at least make something good out of this stupid thread and post some kino balrog art.
Probably not.
>the virgin balrog has wings
>the virgin balrog doesn't have wings
>the chad balrog doesn't most of the time but can manifest shadow wings
sounds like an anime
balrogs are just dragon pugs
depends on the balrog
BETTER QUESTION: When the Balrog became "a thing of slime" did its shape change or did it just get slick like a slug when it was wet?
My assumption was that its flames were snuffed so all that was left was the "fuel" its own vile essence and a mixture of whatever effluence was found in the dark waters beneath the mountain.
>effluence
I learned a new word today. Thanks, anon.
Every time a Balrog dies in the legendarium, it involves falling off a cliff. You'd think one of them would USE their wings if they had any.
Do people eat ostrich legs? Like, just big fried chicken legs that you can sling over your shoulder and eat as you go about your day?
I did once. Tasted pretty damn good but then I made the mistake to look up how they are slaughtered and it made me a little sick since the are considerably more intelligent than chickens. I'd still eat them again though.
But can an ostrich fly the ring into mordor?
Holy shit really? I was kidding when I asked that, but genuinely curious too. I knew people ate their eggs, but for some reason hadn't considered their meat. Was it good? I imagine meat from that big of a bird is tough and dry.
Ostrich Jerky is pretty popular, you can buy it online
Is it like the gator jerky that's actually like 80% turkey jerky I buy when I'm vacationing in Florida?
It depends where you buy it from, there are quite a few 100% ostrich meat jerky out there.
Does the balrog even have fingers small enough to wear the ring? Can the ring grow large enough to accommodate balrog fingers?
How's Ostrich compare to emu? I've had emu before and they honestly tasted like beef, just with less beef flavor.
never had emu, ostrich is just kinda real beefy tho tbh
Ostrich is super tasty. If you've ever had grass fed beef it's very very similar to that. I'm in the UK and you can just get it in supermarkets here some times. Would recommend giving it a shot should you ever get a good opportunity to.
Why does it matter?
Does Aragorn have pants?
Uh yeah duh
He can if he wants to
All maiars are just shape shifting spirits and demigods
Would a Balrog even answer Sauron or just look at him as another usurper who tries to copy morgoth?
When Morgoth was still around, most of the later works place Sauron/Gorthaur/Thu as pretty solidly in the position of lieutenant, second in command, so they might retain their loyalty out of adherence to Morgoth’s established hierarchy.
Of course, they might also disagree with Sauron’s new position of “control and enslave the world” instead of Morgoth’s position of “destroy the world and reduce it all to chaos”
Sauron by taking centre stage and setting himself up to do his own thing is pretty solidly breaking from Morgoth’s intent and hierarchy. I don’t think Sauron could rely on a Balrog showing him any loyalty at all, myself. Even Sauron’s position as lieutenant at the time shouldn’t carry that much weight because the actual authority derived from Morgoth. They might have obeyed him then because he was placed above them, but thr power/authority to do that derived from Morgoth, and Morgoth is gone.
I think if Sauron had thought there was a genuine possibility for getting loyal Balrogs to join him, he would have already tried it like he did when he corrupted Saruman.
Is Sauron sexy?
What system?
FATAL
> Does the balrog have wings?
Depends on what he’s been drinking.
the balrog was a merry fellow
what colour are Spock's bones?