I voiced my concerns over the writing and structure being too predictable at this point in the post with the sonic image above.
Also didnt like how it kinda didnt feel like there were any stakes or any danger at almost all parts but the queens basement with spamton.
Also I did snowgrave and wasnt impressed. I thought it would escalate harder but it basically just stopped after the berdly incident.
That doesnt mean I didnt like it though. It had many cool things:
-multiple rather obscure mega man X and specifically X3 references
-giving all party members ACT was a good idea considering that going full pacifist is beneficial in chapter2
-minigames were good and managed to keep things fresh
-queen is hilarious and my favorite female character in media at this point
-good music
-soulful parts in the internet city like the fireworks or entering the place right on the final beat of the rhythm minigame
-big fan of punchout so the finale against the queen was really cool
-spamtons inclusion and execution are great. its really easy to frick up a character like that and make him come across like some reddit abomination
Really looking forward to the next chapters, and I think its good that they might take longer to come out as a bundle because one chapter at a time is not satisfying enough for me.
I'm holding out for that in that context.
The whole thing is going for seven chapters, so having one introductory one and another one that still sticks to the rules is understandable. Just feels different because it takes a lot of time for the chapters to come out I guess.
Thats why I'm looking forward to the next release being multiple chapters. They're gonna cover more of the overarching story, more opportunities for crazy stuff and also wont feel as bad when one of the chapters ends up being lacking when there's two other ones.
>Also I did snowgrave and wasnt impressed. I thought it would escalate harder but it basically just stopped after the berdly incident.
that's because the game stops after the berdly incident, it's a demo
but it doesnt. after he gets frozen the path continues but it doesnt do many interesting things there until the spamton neo fight, which sadly isnt all that different from the normal path fight either.
sixteen year old girls are well known for sleeping in the same room as their older brother
and getting shown pictures of their older brother's friend's hot girlfriend
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and using AXE body spray
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>sixteen year old girls are well known for sleeping in the same room as their older brother
Where else will they sleep lol, its a 2
house. >getting shown pictures of their older brother's friend's hot girlfriend
Pizza will literally show that to anyone because he's a desperate loser lol. Also in this canon kris is a lesbo
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There's no where else for Kris to sleep. What's she gonna do, share a bed with her mother?
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>sexualizing this poor gyno inflicted boy
shame anon. SHAME
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I couldn't find any non sexualized pictures of fem kris tbh
Kris is only ever referred to with gender neutral pronouns and Toby has only ever called Kris they/them in interviews
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if kris was meant to be non binary, there would be no reason for toby or another member of the dev team not to confirm it
furthermore, see posts such as
sixteen year old girls are well known for sleeping in the same room as their older brother
and getting shown pictures of their older brother's friend's hot girlfriend
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She is "non-binary" in the sense that the player can imagine them to be whatever gender they want them to be
Death of the Author nothing, I am not injecting context beyond what's actually in the material to make assertions about objective evaluations of said material.
We've been over this with Alphys. Alphys was fricking weird and the game (Toby) acknowledged this.
The only reason there was no actual shaming is because the fish she was interested in had no concept of normalcy.
The whole Noelle being into Susie stuff is like the Alphys subplot but cranked up to max weirdness.
If nothing else, Toby's team will probably say something.
God I can't wait to see how the snowgrave route will impact it all. >normal route: noelle tries to confess to susie, but fails to convey her message properly due to a lack of confidence >susie brushes her off gently, noelle realizes her infatuation wasn't normal, and they become friends >snowgrave route: noelle forcibly gains confidence thanks to the player, but the game otherwise plays "normally" up to the confession >while the player expects her confession to succeed this time, noelle instead straight up attacks susie, having become extremely infatuated with her >the player can no longer stop her with their commands
It is very popular, but I feel like it's popularity is very overstated. It doesn't have anything on, say, Minecraft.
That said, I was talking about Deltarune, not Undertale, and I don't think they're nearly comparable, at least at this point.
From what I understand, many Japanese don't even know Deltarune exists, despite loving Undertale.
Undertale is one of the most popular games of all time. Literally of all time.
It is very popular, but I feel like it's popularity is very overstated. It doesn't have anything on, say, Minecraft.
That said, I was talking about Deltarune, not Undertale, and I don't think they're nearly comparable, at least at this point.
From what I understand, many Japanese don't even know Deltarune exists, despite loving Undertale.
yeah fnaf's obviously more well known but its a hell of a lot less well-liked. they're not very good games. undertale's a very popular game but it was only "phenomenon" level for a very short time--it's legendary more for its quality than for its level of success.
last update we got was >not being released this year >"more than a chapter's worth" of work done >work has mostly been done on chapters 3 and 4 >some systems caused development difficulties, now that they're worked out, future development should go smoothly
2023 release seems likely.
Honestly best ending would be a threesome.
Noelle, Susie, Kris.
Twitumbler would be military grade seethe over it but any time one of them puts their head over the parapet to b***h Toby could fire back with 'What, an Enby and two girls are in a poly relationship, what's wrong with that? Are you some sort of doubeplusungooder racist?'
If I ever make it big I'd happily spend an inordinate amount of money making twitterbait games just to get a rise out of them, because frick them, they deserve it.
I doubt either of them would seethe about that, since they like, and ship Kris and Noelle as well, with the whole nonbinary shit. Only the yuri shippers, and even then, they'd settle. The SusiexKris fans are the true fanatics that will lose their shit if either that or the love triangle doesn't end up being a thing.
>Honestly best ending would be a threesome.
Nah, gimme a good love story or don't. None of this middle of the road shit that doesn't work IRL.
First chapter is easily Tobys weakest game (Not counting Halloween hacks or anything like that). Story was kingdom hearts bullshit, the visual rely on way too much negative space and the ending was "Who's Alphys? Never heard of her. I might be Undyne/sans/Asgore, but not the one you know! XD"
Personally, I was ready to tap out if it wasn't for chapter 2; now i'm actually excited to see where it goes next.
>Kingdom Hearts
It was definitely Lewis Carroll & Alice themed. Toby was clearly going for Yoko's A&W score, but the similarities end there.
The teleportation/isekai/what have you is much more in tune with Carroll that SquareEnix, even down to falling into a magical pit.
Also, you're completely wrong and Chapter 1 is one, if not the strongest piece Toby's put out yet, just on all the music, how it released, including the build up of its story, and the theme of Kris and Susie as social outcasts discovering this world and letting down their internal barriers keeping others out.
It's just a fantastic setting, story and game. And Jevil/World Revolving > Spamton/Big Shot
I hope things actually get crazier starting with chapter 3 because the second already felt super formulaic with a much too big focus on interpersonal dialogue.
Feels like he puts so much more effort into writing the core cast but ultimately its super predictable and lame and the best characters in chapter 2 were the queen and spamton anyways.
I voiced my concerns over the writing and structure being too predictable at this point in the post with the sonic image above.
Also didnt like how it kinda didnt feel like there were any stakes or any danger at almost all parts but the queens basement with spamton.
Also I did snowgrave and wasnt impressed. I thought it would escalate harder but it basically just stopped after the berdly incident.
That doesnt mean I didnt like it though. It had many cool things:
-multiple rather obscure mega man X and specifically X3 references
-giving all party members ACT was a good idea considering that going full pacifist is beneficial in chapter2
-minigames were good and managed to keep things fresh
-queen is hilarious and my favorite female character in media at this point
-good music
-soulful parts in the internet city like the fireworks or entering the place right on the final beat of the rhythm minigame
-big fan of punchout so the finale against the queen was really cool
-spamtons inclusion and execution are great. its really easy to frick up a character like that and make him come across like some reddit abomination
Really looking forward to the next chapters, and I think its good that they might take longer to come out as a bundle because one chapter at a time is not satisfying enough for me.
I feel like the main concerns you have in both posts are dealt with by this one answer: there are only the FIRST TWO chapters out of 7 at least or 10 (plus chapter 0) at most. To me, Chapter 2 felt like Toby's effort to properly lay the groundwork for how the rest of the game will go (expanding Castle Town, Snowgrave's beginning, etc.), since Chapter 1 felt like the Mega Man X intro stage (if we're still going off of MMX analogies; I mean, for God's sake, the chapter is called "The Beginning"). The game isn't even halfway done, and who knows how crazy the next chapters will get. The teaser on deltarune.com/chair already has me thinking the next schizo will be some horror-kino. This game will only get better and is one of the only games that I know will; have hope (and dreams), Anon. The other one being COD 2024's Zombies mode.
Treyarch (Black Ops series' devs) has been given the short end of the stick since Black Ops 4, and Zombies has usually suffered the worst from it. >Told by Activision to scrap their campaign mid-development for a battle royale mode, Zombies-mode development was rushed >Heavily rumored that Black Ops: Cold War was originally going to be made by Sledgehammer Games, but was then dumped on by Treyarch mid-development and they had to stop everything to work on that. >Called on suddenly to make Vanguard's Zombies mode when they were still pushing out Cold War content.
The next COD after MW2022 is going to be another Treyarch game now, and they're skipping a 2023 release, meaning Treyarch's going to have DOUBLE the dev time to actually make something great, and I will fricking be there for it. They better fricking bring back Double-Tap.
I will be really impressed if Toby manages to create a better character than Spamton. I know the same was said about Jevil, but I feel Spamton will be really had to top
Jevils character and general design is pretty generic
BUT in the context of Toby Fox games, with the sudden release of chapter 1. We where not expecting voice lines, 3D backgrounds, the giant desperation moves. It was stuff only really flowey had done before. People liked jevil for a shock value he presented
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a lot of deltarune/undertale characters are based off of existing tropes, but they're very robust embodiments of those tropes. jevil's one of the best insane clowns imo.
I'm fairly certain there will be some form of summon magic like FF but for specific enemies / Schizobosses.
They can turn into items and still talk and get recognized despite being pieces of equipment.
Summoning Spamton for an attack maybe getting a dialogue line here and there depending on the enemy is the ideal extra dosage of Spamton material people crave.
Toby knows it too >you may ask who is next >you may ask who will be >who will be secret boss of advenute no. 3? >me don't knows, and me dont cares! >me only care about spamton, the rest can go up in the airs!
>Darker than dark
b***h opened a dark world inside a dark world and got stuck in It when the First dark world got closed. Sounds 90s Goosebumps schizoplot enough to fit deltarune.
One man: >Plays piano >Writes fricking amazing music >Can come up with a simple yet ingriguing premise/gameplay/plot >Writes fricking great dialogue by vidya standards >Knows coding okay enough to cobble up a simple-ish game with lots of detail >Knows shit about ROM hacking at least to some extent
How do I become this good, this autistic? I started taking piano lessons now but it'll take me years, probably, and I am not young by now. I am legitimately upset every day that I lack the talent to make my own game. I'll be spending at least the next 5 years trying to teach myself to play and write music and to write, but by that point I am not sure I'll be sane enough to then spend enough 5+ years to produce a game on my own or with a person or two. I've been burning inside from my inability to leave a mark and do something cool for at least 10 years now, but it was Deltarune Ch. 2 that gave me that final kick in the nuts.
Shame I am not a teen with endless free time anymore.
IIRC Toby can't read music, took lessons for less than a year, mostly just does improv play by ear and works from there. Any music theory youtuber you see analyzing Undertale's ost is lying
>IIRC Toby can't read music, took lessons for less than a year, mostly just does improv play by ear and works from there.
He did play some other instrument in high school (I forgot which, I think it was like a flute or something?), and then took a year of piano lessons afterwards.
This just means he is even more of a genius, cause I can't imagine writing shit like that after a year of playing a keyboard (and most people don't write anything after many years), and he made Megalovania when he was like 15.
>IIRC Toby can't read music, took lessons for less than a year, mostly just does improv play by ear and works from there.
He did play some other instrument in high school (I forgot which, I think it was like a flute or something?), and then took a year of piano lessons afterwards.
This just means he is even more of a genius, cause I can't imagine writing shit like that after a year of playing a keyboard (and most people don't write anything after many years), and he made Megalovania when he was like 15.
Honestly annon, everyone has something they are a prodigy at. If you gain just a little passion for that thing, then your talent will awaken. Thats how it was for me anyways
What was your thing? I already kind of have a thing I am good at, but it's not really that creative, so while it can lend me a job, I am still not satisfied in terms of self-expression
I hope to fricking god they put an end to these "romantic" subplots. This shit was so cringe that it made my testicles retract into my body and it's clear that the only thing Tobert knows about romance is from anime.
I'm expecting a double pivot
Meet gaster with the party, its all ominous. Then a rug pull, he is a goofy scientist and we just thought he was creepy. Party remembers go elsewhere, then with Kris alone the real schizo shit is turned back on
He will not appear in-game. He will only ever talk to you through menus, mostly outside of the game (during chapter and save selection and maybe a forced game over screen kinda like "But it refused")
Maybe you'll finish the normal ending and then he'll go >EXCELLENT >TRULY EXCELLENT >HOWEVER
and then send you on an egg hunt for the true ending
I hate both of these possibilities so much but I know one of them will be true. That's why I hate them. 50/50 predictability
Here is a third one.
There is no other Gaster. Until 6 months later after Deltarune ends, when he gets stealthly patched into Undertale along with Hard Mode, which continue DR's meta-narrative.
He will not appear in-game. He will only ever talk to you through menus, mostly outside of the game (during chapter and save selection and maybe a forced game over screen kinda like "But it refused")
Maybe you'll finish the normal ending and then he'll go >EXCELLENT >TRULY EXCELLENT >HOWEVER
and then send you on an egg hunt for the true ending
I still doubt this. I think fighting the schizobosses and doing all the routes will put you on a brand new special route where things will go batshit schitzo. I mean, Toby already kinda has a sprite for le Gasterman. In a room that only appears when the FUN value is 66. Everything to do with Gaster has the number 6
I will only accept this ONLY if the true ending route is a huge, complicated, multi-save sidequest.
Not necessarily super cryptic and difficult as I want it to be solvable by one non-moronic player without any community or ARG bullshit (maybe some very light stuff like "go to this website" but no more), but for it to be drawn out enough that you start to doubt everything.
Having to then replay the game a couple of times with some things slowly changing would be even more kino. Give me like a 15-hour replay sidequest. as long as there are small interesting changes thoughout, I am fine with it.
That would me amazing. The first replay could be an extended 6th anniversary live edition, and the second a schizo shit edition with everything fricked up.
>KRIS DREEMURR, YOU ROTTEN, NO-GOOD, DRAGON-FRICKING PISSANT! >YOU MISERABLE LITTLE ANDROGYNOUS SACK OF SHIT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR REINDEER CHILDHOOD FRIEND MURDER THE GAMER BIRD? >LISTEN TO ME YOU BLUEBERRY JACKASS I WILL END YOUR PATHETIC PIE-EATING EXISTENCE IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW! >SO SPEAK TRUTHFULLY AND QUICKLY OR I WILL ANNIHILATE YOUR MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE-LISTENING ASS AND SCATTER THE APPLE-SCENTED ASHES ACROSS ALL OF SPACE AND TIME! >DID YOU FORCE THE CHRISTMAS LESBIAN TO FREEZE MEME FALCO? >Gaster asked calmly.
>Gaster is inspired by The Forgotten Man from Mother 1. Toby talked specifically about this NPC in a Mother 1 Nintendo Life video >Both Undertale and Deltarune are trademarked by "Royal Sciences LLC" >Gaster talks like a scientist taking notes during the green save select
Blue: gravity swap with a double jump, sort of like the sans fight.
Green: you can move and parry shit.
Purple: Move the box by touching its walls
Blue/Red: one moves as normal, the other stays in the center and moves the whole box instead when pressed.
For that matter since Chapter 2 introduced punch out fights, we might not even need soul colors to see more gimmicks. Could be neat if they end up as tributes to older games?
I never really realized that Spamton is talking about Gaster in the BIG SHOT vocal part
>I think he's coming for me (Gaster), answer the phone (Mike) >Can't explain 'till you're all alone (Mike) >He pulls the strings and makes them ring (Gaster)
Spamtong wants to talk to Mike about meeting a certain someone who gave him forbidden knowledge
if toby fox is actually being genuine about omori being VERY VERY similar to deltarune, we can make some assumptions
hometown = white space
dark world = black space
the major difference being that deltarune is keeping the hometown being a dream aspect as a plot twist. we can assume that the one repressing the memories is noelle, because the dark world is one big deja vu trip for her.
dess likely isn't the one who died, she was simply "removed". in omori, a major character disappears early on which facilitates the plot, and the reason they disappeared was because they knew who omori killed and omori was trying to suppress the memory. therefore we can surmise that dess is missing because she knows about the death, and got poofed out of white space (aka hometown). this means another character is probably the dead one. my guess is the player character.
both games involve a character disappearing out of nowhere, which drives the main plot
yiik's twist is that a universe-destroying version of him is fated to destroy the universe, so he tries (and fails) to defeat the monster version of himself, and his universe is destroyed. then after this he learns that he is actually a piece of some god-like entity that intentionally shattered itself into infinite pieces across time and space, and one piece of himself was trying to manipulate him into killing another piece of himself, and you beat both of them by turning off the machine that caused the fracturing, forcing all of "you" back into a singular being.
toby worked on the game, tbh I wouldn't be surprised if omocat made changes to his game so he didn't step on toby's toes.
HOWEVER, there is a THIRD game that came out in 2017, called thimbleweed park, with the twist that one of the characters knows that they are all trapped in a videogame, with absolutely no freedom, and to save everyone from their hell, he devises a scheme to break into an alpha test area and delete the game.
toby didn’t really do that much on omori, he’s friends with omocat but all he did was a song for a jukebox that features guest musicians (and stole the sprout mole design to use as woshua’s head)
also the argument that omocat changed the game doesn’t work, because then we can’t say anything about how dr and omori are similar
>this means another character is probably the dead one. my guess is the player character. >kris plays the piano >you-know-who plays the piano
if it turns out noelle plays the violin or something i'm gonna shit your fricking pants assuming you actually meant kris and not the vessel
Even if the article weren't entirely a matter of fiction, it could ostensibly be referring to the production costs with producing the free demo, though, even with the assistance at his employment, he wouldn't nearly be expending that much and it's likely merch sales alone have recouped most of the costs.
none of the big shots who interacted with the knight recognized kris.
chapter 2 establishes that any light nerd can open up fountains. kris is at best another knight but not THE knight.
the queen didnt see the knight and just came to her own conclusions which were wrong.
the king probably interacted with him because he is fiercely loyal to the knight.
Not only that, king also had that mantle which may come from the knight (possibly the shadow mantle), and he also probably named his weapon after the knight (since we know from undertale the knights name their weapons "justice"). There's also the hints that there was a fight in the throne room, which may be from the knight defeating the other kings.
none of the big shots who interacted with the knight recognized kris.
chapter 2 establishes that any light nerd can open up fountains. kris is at best another knight but not THE knight.
the twist is that the knight is a darkner with determination
the player-named "character" is kris' human parent. the vessel creator is about projecting your hopes and dreams onto your children, and the game in general is an allegory for the adolescent yearning for freedom vs the parental urge to control what they still see as their vulnerable child. we, as the soul, are intended to take a parental role, a parent who is afraid that their child will make bad choices and ruin their life. this is why kris' "freedom" and personal choices are intentionally framed as evil and ominous, despite being harmless to benign.
"nobody can choose who they are in this world" is actually meant to say "nobody can choose who he/she is in this world"; toby used they/them pronouns to facilitate this hidden meaning. the point of it is, obviously, that you can't choose who your child is, who they will be, what they will like, etc. they are their own person.
the person singing "don't forget" is kris' parent.
>Deltarune ends with Kris and Susie together. >They continue spending time as friends. >Eventually, they start seeing each other as more than friends. >One day, Kris goes down on one knee, and asks that fated question. >She says yes. >They're at the altar. >Birds are singing. >Flowers are blooming. >Days like these couldn't be any better for holy matrimony. >Everyone in Hometown attends. >Toriel is crying tears of joy. >Asriel is the Best Man, but so would Ralsei, would he have been able to appear in the Light World. (and Lancer, too). >Their faces are filled with utter happiness and love. >They exchange their vows. >"I do," Kris says. >"I do," Susie repeats. >Their union brings forth the Chaos Heart, unleashing the void which will consume everything and bring about the end of all worlds - as foretold in the Dark Prognosticus. >"BLECK!"
>4 heroes (silent protagonist, girl, monster, guy in green) >Darkness and hearts are major motifs >Dark prophecy ends with darkness enveloping all worlds >Jester is more powerful than final boss
simple, memorable designs + simple, memorable characterization. characters tend to fit closely to certain tropes and to have designs that complement those tropes, so its really easy to remember them and just pick whichever trope's your favourite.
It wasn't really meant to be. Chapter 1 was just a free demo, and then everything else was supposed to come out at once. The chapter structure only served a narrative purpose, not as a means of distribution.
But then chinaflu fricked everything up.
this is the autism that gives me confidence in toby, learning japanese for the (partial) purpose of seeking out and playing bizarre untranslated dating sims from the nineties about dating hot dog women, and then writing about it in your fricking famitsu column.
>"good" route, he thinks it's just a dream >"bad" route he's either dead or in a coma or something >"neutral" route he's alive but his arm is fricked up in the real world, which may lead him to realizing that it wasn't a dream
it will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward
Neo isn't just a meme joke, it has a contextual theme in both deltarune and undertale. The power of neo is the power of a true hero. This is why undyne the undying's theme heavily utilizes the neo leitmotif that mettaton neo also uses. This is why both spamton (smooth taste of neo) and jevil (the true and neo chaos) reference it. This is why susie's theme is called s_neo in the files.
The strange man and susie are true heroes. The player is not.
I will never understand why zoomers are so obsessed with Undertale and this shit. Just some ugly Earthbound clones with decent soundtrack and awful gameplay.
I'm sick of hearing about Undertale and I have the answer for you.
It's the illusion of spontaneity. The idea that everything they're looking at could be easily produced. That all it takes is a notepad and a dream.
I'm dead serious, that's most of it.
i played undertale but never played this shit. i actually don't even know what it is other than it was made by the same guy. is it worth checking out if i liked undertale?
Video games will peak at Deltarune. After that, the medium will be dead, with nothing new that could be possibly be done or said. Same way movies have now been for decades, even though there are still some nice new films that come out.
look man im exited too, but expecting deltarune to be the best thing ever that's also the conclusion to the entire medium is asking too much.
im almost certain you're going to be disappointed once you play it
I'm with you in the daaaaaaaaaark
Your Power utterly btfo any song in Undertale.
Toby's use of leitmotifs is absolutely masterful. I'm convinced he makes the music first and the characters, arcs and storyline to fit the former.
how can I?
I just beat chapter 2 two days ago.
What did you think?
Deltarune.
I voiced my concerns over the writing and structure being too predictable at this point in the post with the sonic image above.
Also didnt like how it kinda didnt feel like there were any stakes or any danger at almost all parts but the queens basement with spamton.
Also I did snowgrave and wasnt impressed. I thought it would escalate harder but it basically just stopped after the berdly incident.
That doesnt mean I didnt like it though. It had many cool things:
-multiple rather obscure mega man X and specifically X3 references
-giving all party members ACT was a good idea considering that going full pacifist is beneficial in chapter2
-minigames were good and managed to keep things fresh
-queen is hilarious and my favorite female character in media at this point
-good music
-soulful parts in the internet city like the fireworks or entering the place right on the final beat of the rhythm minigame
-big fan of punchout so the finale against the queen was really cool
-spamtons inclusion and execution are great. its really easy to frick up a character like that and make him come across like some reddit abomination
Really looking forward to the next chapters, and I think its good that they might take longer to come out as a bundle because one chapter at a time is not satisfying enough for me.
I mean, queen is a only the second chapter of the game. I'm sure as the game progresses, the schizo shut will start to bleed over into the main stuff.
I'm holding out for that in that context.
The whole thing is going for seven chapters, so having one introductory one and another one that still sticks to the rules is understandable. Just feels different because it takes a lot of time for the chapters to come out I guess.
Thats why I'm looking forward to the next release being multiple chapters. They're gonna cover more of the overarching story, more opportunities for crazy stuff and also wont feel as bad when one of the chapters ends up being lacking when there's two other ones.
>Also I did snowgrave and wasnt impressed. I thought it would escalate harder but it basically just stopped after the berdly incident.
that's because the game stops after the berdly incident, it's a demo
but it doesnt. after he gets frozen the path continues but it doesnt do many interesting things there until the spamton neo fight, which sadly isnt all that different from the normal path fight either.
>we will either get kino or a cataclysm so fricking unholy it will make Homestuck's downfall seem tame by comparison
I can't wait bros
the only cataclysm is if toby continues with his moronic lesbo fetish.
As a yuri gay, toby is based as frick. Kris is a lesbian too, cry about it
can enbies even be lesbian?
Enbies are just white women larping anyways
kris is male
Wrong
sixteen year old girls are well known for sleeping in the same room as their older brother
and getting shown pictures of their older brother's friend's hot girlfriend
and using AXE body spray
>sixteen year old girls are well known for sleeping in the same room as their older brother
Where else will they sleep lol, its a 2
house.
>getting shown pictures of their older brother's friend's hot girlfriend
Pizza will literally show that to anyone because he's a desperate loser lol. Also in this canon kris is a lesbo
There's no where else for Kris to sleep. What's she gonna do, share a bed with her mother?
>sexualizing this poor gyno inflicted boy
shame anon. SHAME
I couldn't find any non sexualized pictures of fem kris tbh
Just got to know where to look
>mfw im inside a tomboy
Kris is only ever referred to with gender neutral pronouns and Toby has only ever called Kris they/them in interviews
if kris was meant to be non binary, there would be no reason for toby or another member of the dev team not to confirm it
furthermore, see posts such as
She is "non-binary" in the sense that the player can imagine them to be whatever gender they want them to be
"enbies" don't exist
Ywnbaw
"non binary" is just zoomerspeak for "I'm not like other girls"
I mean, he clearly isn't with Noelle and Susie if that's what you're implying.
Noelle practically owns a warehouse of red flags
>Noelle practically owns a warehouse of red flags
Death of the Author. What may be a red flag to general audiences may not be such to Toby.
Death of the Author nothing, I am not injecting context beyond what's actually in the material to make assertions about objective evaluations of said material.
We've been over this with Alphys. Alphys was fricking weird and the game (Toby) acknowledged this.
The only reason there was no actual shaming is because the fish she was interested in had no concept of normalcy.
The whole Noelle being into Susie stuff is like the Alphys subplot but cranked up to max weirdness.
If nothing else, Toby's team will probably say something.
God I can't wait to see how the snowgrave route will impact it all.
>normal route: noelle tries to confess to susie, but fails to convey her message properly due to a lack of confidence
>susie brushes her off gently, noelle realizes her infatuation wasn't normal, and they become friends
>snowgrave route: noelle forcibly gains confidence thanks to the player, but the game otherwise plays "normally" up to the confession
>while the player expects her confession to succeed this time, noelle instead straight up attacks susie, having become extremely infatuated with her
>the player can no longer stop her with their commands
I don't think enough people care about Deltarune for it to cause any sort of cataclysm.
Undertale is one of the most popular games of all time. Literally of all time.
It is very popular, but I feel like it's popularity is very overstated. It doesn't have anything on, say, Minecraft.
That said, I was talking about Deltarune, not Undertale, and I don't think they're nearly comparable, at least at this point.
From what I understand, many Japanese don't even know Deltarune exists, despite loving Undertale.
I think once deltarune chapter 7 drops, a lot more people will check it out. I know a few people who say they are waiting for the full release
>I know a few people who say they are waiting for the full release
lmao true.
waiting between chapters is always part of the experience.
>chapter 7
>he doesn't know
If there is a chapter 8, it will release with chapter 7
tobyxixters.. it's over...
yeah fnaf's obviously more well known but its a hell of a lot less well-liked. they're not very good games. undertale's a very popular game but it was only "phenomenon" level for a very short time--it's legendary more for its quality than for its level of success.
Kneel
I'm confident he'll pull through. I think he's autistic enough to stick a landing as big as this
He had front row seats to homestuck's downfall and seems to be pretty aware of how all this shit works in general. I think it'll be fine.
It is literally impossible for this to fail as bad as Homestuck did.
WHERE IS IT TOBIAS
Only 11 more months to go, lads
Is this confirmed yet, or are we still going off of Sans' quote?
last update we got was
>not being released this year
>"more than a chapter's worth" of work done
>work has mostly been done on chapters 3 and 4
>some systems caused development difficulties, now that they're worked out, future development should go smoothly
2023 release seems likely.
New schizoboss music dropped
https://vocaroo.com/13hYZnGCEzSa
Ngl this is really good. Love the whistle for the motiff
Where the FRICK did this absolute jam come from and WHY isn't it on a playlist?
Oh, were you the same guy who did the Roaring theme a few months ago?
TOOOOOOOOOOOOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Get to work you two. Toriel wants those grandkids on the double.
Honestly best ending would be a threesome.
Noelle, Susie, Kris.
Twitumbler would be military grade seethe over it but any time one of them puts their head over the parapet to b***h Toby could fire back with 'What, an Enby and two girls are in a poly relationship, what's wrong with that? Are you some sort of doubeplusungooder racist?'
If I ever make it big I'd happily spend an inordinate amount of money making twitterbait games just to get a rise out of them, because frick them, they deserve it.
>Honestly best ending would be a threesome.
Nah, gimme a good love story or don't. None of this middle of the road shit that doesn't work IRL.
>that doesn't work IRL
Anon, the majority of the behavior in both of these games doesn't work IRL
No fricking threesomes. I already read the greentext of anon getting cucked by lesbians.
why did you reply to me if your post was irrelevant to mine?
You're both shitting around with it being purely fictional. A threesome is unsatisfying.
>You're both shitting around with it being purely fictional
What? What the frick are you talking about?
You said the actions in deltarune wouldn't make sense in real life. That doesn't stop a love triangle from being lame.
I love this gif. I want a route where the thee of them just go "frick it" and do this to everyone.
>Implying the majority of behavior in Deltarune or Undertale works
Hahahohohoyou.
I doubt either of them would seethe about that, since they like, and ship Kris and Noelle as well, with the whole nonbinary shit. Only the yuri shippers, and even then, they'd settle. The SusiexKris fans are the true fanatics that will lose their shit if either that or the love triangle doesn't end up being a thing.
Skies of Arcadia.
First chapter is easily Tobys weakest game (Not counting Halloween hacks or anything like that). Story was kingdom hearts bullshit, the visual rely on way too much negative space and the ending was "Who's Alphys? Never heard of her. I might be Undyne/sans/Asgore, but not the one you know! XD"
Personally, I was ready to tap out if it wasn't for chapter 2; now i'm actually excited to see where it goes next.
>First chapter is easily Tobys weakest game (Not counting Halloween hacks or anything like that)
So... out of the two games?
That said, I agree.
Toby's weakest game? Isn't it like 1 of 2 games he's made lmao
the full game could be 8 hours of dog shit but as long as the music stays as good as it has been I'll be happy
>Kingdom Hearts
It was definitely Lewis Carroll & Alice themed. Toby was clearly going for Yoko's A&W score, but the similarities end there.
The teleportation/isekai/what have you is much more in tune with Carroll that SquareEnix, even down to falling into a magical pit.
Also, you're completely wrong and Chapter 1 is one, if not the strongest piece Toby's put out yet, just on all the music, how it released, including the build up of its story, and the theme of Kris and Susie as social outcasts discovering this world and letting down their internal barriers keeping others out.
It's just a fantastic setting, story and game. And Jevil/World Revolving > Spamton/Big Shot
I hope things actually get crazier starting with chapter 3 because the second already felt super formulaic with a much too big focus on interpersonal dialogue.
Feels like he puts so much more effort into writing the core cast but ultimately its super predictable and lame and the best characters in chapter 2 were the queen and spamton anyways.
>I hope things actually get crazier starting with chapter 3
https://deltarune.com/chair/
my chair does that too
keep clicking that chair a couple of times
The gaster kino is coming
I feel like the main concerns you have in both posts are dealt with by this one answer: there are only the FIRST TWO chapters out of 7 at least or 10 (plus chapter 0) at most. To me, Chapter 2 felt like Toby's effort to properly lay the groundwork for how the rest of the game will go (expanding Castle Town, Snowgrave's beginning, etc.), since Chapter 1 felt like the Mega Man X intro stage (if we're still going off of MMX analogies; I mean, for God's sake, the chapter is called "The Beginning"). The game isn't even halfway done, and who knows how crazy the next chapters will get. The teaser on deltarune.com/chair already has me thinking the next schizo will be some horror-kino. This game will only get better and is one of the only games that I know will; have hope (and dreams), Anon. The other one being COD 2024's Zombies mode.
>The other one being COD 2024's Zombies mode.
What's special about that year specifically?
Didn't a new COD just drop with zombie mode?
Treyarch (Black Ops series' devs) has been given the short end of the stick since Black Ops 4, and Zombies has usually suffered the worst from it.
>Told by Activision to scrap their campaign mid-development for a battle royale mode, Zombies-mode development was rushed
>Heavily rumored that Black Ops: Cold War was originally going to be made by Sledgehammer Games, but was then dumped on by Treyarch mid-development and they had to stop everything to work on that.
>Called on suddenly to make Vanguard's Zombies mode when they were still pushing out Cold War content.
The next COD after MW2022 is going to be another Treyarch game now, and they're skipping a 2023 release, meaning Treyarch's going to have DOUBLE the dev time to actually make something great, and I will fricking be there for it. They better fricking bring back Double-Tap.
I seriously believe he peaked at Spamton, pulled out a timeless character for chapter fricking 2. I almost wish he was the main villain.
I will be really impressed if Toby manages to create a better character than Spamton. I know the same was said about Jevil, but I feel Spamton will be really had to top
>I know the same was said about Jevil
And it was moronic, there was nothing all that groundbreaking about Jevil.
jevil wasnt special tbh.
EH-HE-HE-HE!
moron, moron!
Oh no! Evil clown man! We've never had one of THOSE before...
Jevils character and general design is pretty generic
BUT in the context of Toby Fox games, with the sudden release of chapter 1. We where not expecting voice lines, 3D backgrounds, the giant desperation moves. It was stuff only really flowey had done before. People liked jevil for a shock value he presented
a lot of deltarune/undertale characters are based off of existing tropes, but they're very robust embodiments of those tropes. jevil's one of the best insane clowns imo.
I'm fairly certain there will be some form of summon magic like FF but for specific enemies / Schizobosses.
They can turn into items and still talk and get recognized despite being pieces of equipment.
Summoning Spamton for an attack maybe getting a dialogue line here and there depending on the enemy is the ideal extra dosage of Spamton material people crave.
Toby knows it too
>you may ask who is next
>you may ask who will be
>who will be secret boss of advenute no. 3?
>me don't knows, and me dont cares!
>me only care about spamton, the rest can go up in the airs!
>spamton only exists because Toby said frick playtesters
He will forever be based in my book. Playtesters are the biggest mouthbreathers on the planet
>But what if it could... get darker than dark..?
>Darker than dark
b***h opened a dark world inside a dark world and got stuck in It when the First dark world got closed. Sounds 90s Goosebumps schizoplot enough to fit deltarune.
One man:
>Plays piano
>Writes fricking amazing music
>Can come up with a simple yet ingriguing premise/gameplay/plot
>Writes fricking great dialogue by vidya standards
>Knows coding okay enough to cobble up a simple-ish game with lots of detail
>Knows shit about ROM hacking at least to some extent
How do I become this good, this autistic? I started taking piano lessons now but it'll take me years, probably, and I am not young by now. I am legitimately upset every day that I lack the talent to make my own game. I'll be spending at least the next 5 years trying to teach myself to play and write music and to write, but by that point I am not sure I'll be sane enough to then spend enough 5+ years to produce a game on my own or with a person or two. I've been burning inside from my inability to leave a mark and do something cool for at least 10 years now, but it was Deltarune Ch. 2 that gave me that final kick in the nuts.
Shame I am not a teen with endless free time anymore.
He also knows Japanese by now. He is unstoppable.
IIRC Toby can't read music, took lessons for less than a year, mostly just does improv play by ear and works from there. Any music theory youtuber you see analyzing Undertale's ost is lying
>IIRC Toby can't read music, took lessons for less than a year, mostly just does improv play by ear and works from there.
He did play some other instrument in high school (I forgot which, I think it was like a flute or something?), and then took a year of piano lessons afterwards.
This just means he is even more of a genius, cause I can't imagine writing shit like that after a year of playing a keyboard (and most people don't write anything after many years), and he made Megalovania when he was like 15.
God this is making me so depressed
Honestly annon, everyone has something they are a prodigy at. If you gain just a little passion for that thing, then your talent will awaken. Thats how it was for me anyways
What was your thing?
I already kind of have a thing I am good at, but it's not really that creative, so while it can lend me a job, I am still not satisfied in terms of self-expression
I just like writing. I wasn't very good, and didn't care that much in school, untill I started writing on my own time for fun.
Anything I can read? Or do you just write for yourself?
now you know how the scholars of old felt about the Renaissance men before them
troony game
You may ask: Who is next? You may ask: Who will be?
Who will be the secret boss of adventure No. 3?
Me dont knows.
And me dont cares!
Me only cares about Spanetom
The rest can go up in the airs!!
Please pay 4.99 to continue the poem
...about me, your eggs husband.
That was visceral
I can't believe Toby did this to my man
at least I have the Pale King from Hollow Knight to look at as a chad dad, but holy FRICK
One of the top 3 funniest moments for me
what are the other two?
>Genuinely the only good egg joke of that sequence
>Precision engineered to be as socially inappropriate as possible
>mfw
What is the ANGEL'S HEAVEN?
I hope to fricking god they put an end to these "romantic" subplots. This shit was so cringe that it made my testicles retract into my body and it's clear that the only thing Tobert knows about romance is from anime.
bro the game is about teenagers in highschool what the frick did you expect
>This shit was so cringe that it made my testicles retract into my body
That would require them to have dropped first.
I swear I will unwittingly get an alternate ending just by skipping those fricking scenes.
>refuse to let kris and ralsei have a chance to converse without you listening in
>become unable to initiate.... their plans
How kino will the Gaster encounter be?
I'm expecting a double pivot
Meet gaster with the party, its all ominous. Then a rug pull, he is a goofy scientist and we just thought he was creepy. Party remembers go elsewhere, then with Kris alone the real schizo shit is turned back on
I hate both of these possibilities so much but I know one of them will be true. That's why I hate them. 50/50 predictability
Here is a third one.
There is no other Gaster.
Until 6 months later after Deltarune ends, when he gets stealthly patched into Undertale along with Hard Mode, which continue DR's meta-narrative.
>Re releases the old earthbound Halloween hack but with deltarune characters
Bravo toby
EAT SHIT, LIGHT NERDS
He will not appear in-game. He will only ever talk to you through menus, mostly outside of the game (during chapter and save selection and maybe a forced game over screen kinda like "But it refused")
Maybe you'll finish the normal ending and then he'll go
>EXCELLENT
>TRULY EXCELLENT
>HOWEVER
and then send you on an egg hunt for the true ending
I still doubt this. I think fighting the schizobosses and doing all the routes will put you on a brand new special route where things will go batshit schitzo. I mean, Toby already kinda has a sprite for le Gasterman. In a room that only appears when the FUN value is 66. Everything to do with Gaster has the number 6
I will only accept this ONLY if the true ending route is a huge, complicated, multi-save sidequest.
Not necessarily super cryptic and difficult as I want it to be solvable by one non-moronic player without any community or ARG bullshit (maybe some very light stuff like "go to this website" but no more), but for it to be drawn out enough that you start to doubt everything.
Having to then replay the game a couple of times with some things slowly changing would be even more kino. Give me like a 15-hour replay sidequest. as long as there are small interesting changes thoughout, I am fine with it.
That would me amazing. The first replay could be an extended 6th anniversary live edition, and the second a schizo shit edition with everything fricked up.
>KRIS DREEMURR, YOU ROTTEN, NO-GOOD, DRAGON-FRICKING PISSANT!
>YOU MISERABLE LITTLE ANDROGYNOUS SACK OF SHIT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR REINDEER CHILDHOOD FRIEND MURDER THE GAMER BIRD?
>LISTEN TO ME YOU BLUEBERRY JACKASS I WILL END YOUR PATHETIC PIE-EATING EXISTENCE IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW!
>SO SPEAK TRUTHFULLY AND QUICKLY OR I WILL ANNIHILATE YOUR MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE-LISTENING ASS AND SCATTER THE APPLE-SCENTED ASHES ACROSS ALL OF SPACE AND TIME!
>DID YOU FORCE THE CHRISTMAS LESBIAN TO FREEZE MEME FALCO?
>Gaster asked calmly.
>egg hunt
YOU WANT
AN EGG ?
>Gaster is inspired by The Forgotten Man from Mother 1. Toby talked specifically about this NPC in a Mother 1 Nintendo Life video
>Both Undertale and Deltarune are trademarked by "Royal Sciences LLC"
>Gaster talks like a scientist taking notes during the green save select
uh
>Toby talked specifically about this NPC in a Mother 1 Nintendo Life video
Link?
Trust me I haven't, I'm eagerly awaiting the next chapters.
What new gimmicks will be added to the other souls? Yellow soul is sideways and you can shoot BIG SHOTS
My bet for the green soul is a deflection/reflection mechanic and 360 movement
>new gimmicks
Have you played a little game called Undertale?
Yes, and I am asking how Toby will spice up the other souls. The yellow soul got a new gimmick.
Blue: gravity swap with a double jump, sort of like the sans fight.
Green: you can move and parry shit.
Purple: Move the box by touching its walls
Blue/Red: one moves as normal, the other stays in the center and moves the whole box instead when pressed.
For that matter since Chapter 2 introduced punch out fights, we might not even need soul colors to see more gimmicks. Could be neat if they end up as tributes to older games?
I never really realized that Spamton is talking about Gaster in the BIG SHOT vocal part
>I think he's coming for me (Gaster), answer the phone (Mike)
>Can't explain 'till you're all alone (Mike)
>He pulls the strings and makes them ring (Gaster)
Spamtong wants to talk to Mike about meeting a certain someone who gave him forbidden knowledge
if toby fox is actually being genuine about omori being VERY VERY similar to deltarune, we can make some assumptions
hometown = white space
dark world = black space
the major difference being that deltarune is keeping the hometown being a dream aspect as a plot twist. we can assume that the one repressing the memories is noelle, because the dark world is one big deja vu trip for her.
dess likely isn't the one who died, she was simply "removed". in omori, a major character disappears early on which facilitates the plot, and the reason they disappeared was because they knew who omori killed and omori was trying to suppress the memory. therefore we can surmise that dess is missing because she knows about the death, and got poofed out of white space (aka hometown). this means another character is probably the dead one. my guess is the player character.
Did he ever confirm he was talking about Omori or is that just the anons' conclusion by the principle of elimination?
>principle of elimination
the two most obvious options are omori and yiik
both games involve a character disappearing out of nowhere, which drives the main plot
yiik's twist is that a universe-destroying version of him is fated to destroy the universe, so he tries (and fails) to defeat the monster version of himself, and his universe is destroyed. then after this he learns that he is actually a piece of some god-like entity that intentionally shattered itself into infinite pieces across time and space, and one piece of himself was trying to manipulate him into killing another piece of himself, and you beat both of them by turning off the machine that caused the fracturing, forcing all of "you" back into a singular being.
i don't think basil existed when toby made that tweet
toby worked on the game, tbh I wouldn't be surprised if omocat made changes to his game so he didn't step on toby's toes.
HOWEVER, there is a THIRD game that came out in 2017, called thimbleweed park, with the twist that one of the characters knows that they are all trapped in a videogame, with absolutely no freedom, and to save everyone from their hell, he devises a scheme to break into an alpha test area and delete the game.
toby didn’t really do that much on omori, he’s friends with omocat but all he did was a song for a jukebox that features guest musicians (and stole the sprout mole design to use as woshua’s head)
also the argument that omocat changed the game doesn’t work, because then we can’t say anything about how dr and omori are similar
>omocat made changes to his game so he didn't step on toby's toes.
Omocat is a woman
Or it could be much slower burn.
Hometown = Faraway
Dark world = Headspace
????? = White Space / Black Space
I considered it, but the glass shards imply otherwise, showing a version of hometime just *slightly* different than the one we're playing in.
and I meant this in regards to hometown = faraway. I could see
hometown = headspace
dark world = white space
the roaring = black space
>this means another character is probably the dead one. my guess is the player character.
>kris plays the piano
>you-know-who plays the piano
if it turns out noelle plays the violin or something i'm gonna shit your fricking pants
assuming you actually meant kris and not the vessel
Everyone else has.
What the frick are you on about
Can you imagine the world where everything is exactly the same, except Deltarune doesn't exist? Scary thought...
Don't look now anon, but the word 'gullible' is watermarked on that webpage
This is what happens when you buy too many Japanese hookers. The fines for killing one are much steeper than in America
Aren't the first two chapters literally free to play? What the frick do you mean "failed to make a profit"
Even if the article weren't entirely a matter of fiction, it could ostensibly be referring to the production costs with producing the free demo, though, even with the assistance at his employment, he wouldn't nearly be expending that much and it's likely merch sales alone have recouped most of the costs.
There is no official merchandise for Undertale.
do you are having a moronic?
>Kris isn't the Knight, he learned how to open dark fountains from Queen's monologue!
Then why did Kris plug the TV in the night before?
groundhog day time loop. kris is trying to get a happy ending, but he keeps losing to the angel and getting sent back to day 1.
none of the big shots who interacted with the knight recognized kris.
chapter 2 establishes that any light nerd can open up fountains. kris is at best another knight but not THE knight.
Do we know that the big shots have actually met the knight? Or do they only know the knight as the creator of the fountains?
the queen didnt see the knight and just came to her own conclusions which were wrong.
the king probably interacted with him because he is fiercely loyal to the knight.
Not only that, king also had that mantle which may come from the knight (possibly the shadow mantle), and he also probably named his weapon after the knight (since we know from undertale the knights name their weapons "justice"). There's also the hints that there was a fight in the throne room, which may be from the knight defeating the other kings.
That's a lot of conjecture anon.
the twist is that the knight is a darkner with determination
the player-named "character" is kris' human parent. the vessel creator is about projecting your hopes and dreams onto your children, and the game in general is an allegory for the adolescent yearning for freedom vs the parental urge to control what they still see as their vulnerable child. we, as the soul, are intended to take a parental role, a parent who is afraid that their child will make bad choices and ruin their life. this is why kris' "freedom" and personal choices are intentionally framed as evil and ominous, despite being harmless to benign.
"nobody can choose who they are in this world" is actually meant to say "nobody can choose who he/she is in this world"; toby used they/them pronouns to facilitate this hidden meaning. the point of it is, obviously, that you can't choose who your child is, who they will be, what they will like, etc. they are their own person.
the person singing "don't forget" is kris' parent.
An actually solid theory.
>Undertale 2: I'm yo Faddah I just made You
KRIS NO
inb4 egg-collecting and item crafting is cross-save and the only way to get the true ending
Collecting all the eggs is the only way to get Susie to come out as ftm trans.
gaster wouldn't get a soul involved and give them three save files if a normal entity could change fate in one go.
I already forgot.
Kris once they hit their growth spurt
I've'nt
>Deltarune ends with Kris and Susie together
>They have a baby
>The Baby is You
Holy kino
>Deltarune ends with Kris and Susie together.
>They continue spending time as friends.
>Eventually, they start seeing each other as more than friends.
>One day, Kris goes down on one knee, and asks that fated question.
>She says yes.
>They're at the altar.
>Birds are singing.
>Flowers are blooming.
>Days like these couldn't be any better for holy matrimony.
>Everyone in Hometown attends.
>Toriel is crying tears of joy.
>Asriel is the Best Man, but so would Ralsei, would he have been able to appear in the Light World. (and Lancer, too).
>Their faces are filled with utter happiness and love.
>They exchange their vows.
>"I do," Kris says.
>"I do," Susie repeats.
>Their union brings forth the Chaos Heart, unleashing the void which will consume everything and bring about the end of all worlds - as foretold in the Dark Prognosticus.
>"BLECK!"
>Card Castle is literally and lazily just Bleck's Castle
You're onto something...
>4 heroes (silent protagonist, girl, monster, guy in green)
>Darkness and hearts are major motifs
>Dark prophecy ends with darkness enveloping all worlds
>Jester is more powerful than final boss
what?
Deltarune is just a deconstruction of the harem protagonist genre
But the only good pairing for Kris is Susie and she's got Noelle now. There's no one to be in a harem.
Just what is it about deltarune characters that gives them such wide appeal
simple, memorable designs + simple, memorable characterization. characters tend to fit closely to certain tropes and to have designs that complement those tropes, so its really easy to remember them and just pick whichever trope's your favourite.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCzGlx1-0MwGFnfHkKoR6SA/videos
What the frick just popped up in my youtube recommendations
cant wait for another 300 tries
I'm going to make the final chapter do a fakeout ending that wipes your save unless you're on the Noelle corruption route btw
or if you've collected all the eggs
>spoiler
You have to collect ALL the eggs
behold, the Knight
i forgot the second i heard it was episodic. i genuinely have a tattoo of sans and even i won't put up with this bullshit
t. homosexual
i fricked your dad
i don't even know how it's meant to pan out. if there is a final release i'll pick it up a year after it's dropped to avoid the hype
no green arrow so you say that
are you waiting for the final release then?
It wasn't really meant to be. Chapter 1 was just a free demo, and then everything else was supposed to come out at once. The chapter structure only served a narrative purpose, not as a means of distribution.
But then chinaflu fricked everything up.
sex with gotes
ZOMG TORIEL IS RALSEI??
Sex with boy goat
How does he do it, bros?
World revolving>BIG SHOT
Read Toby's column
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202209/19276243.html
>Playing some obscure dating sim from the 90s
Holy based
The fricking moron lady holding the books won't let me
>konnichiw-ACK
>not こんにち-ワン
>You will never have a hotdog tsudere gf
Why live?
this is the autism that gives me confidence in toby, learning japanese for the (partial) purpose of seeking out and playing bizarre untranslated dating sims from the nineties about dating hot dog women, and then writing about it in your fricking famitsu column.
Guarantee the main reason he learned it is too read some obscure yuri manga
AHEM
o7
o7
o7
How can you make some random throw away even so soulful
>I'm already forgotten
no fool would be greater
than he who denies
that spamton give me the chance
to earn WILD PRIZE
PLAY SPAMTON WARS NOW
FREE ON PIPIS 3
for our boys in blue
Is Ralsei Asriel?
If so, why didn't Kris or Susie or Noelle recognize him?
my theory is that ralsei looks different to different people
none of them have ever physically described him
Susie called him toothpaste-boy in Chapter 1 in regards to his outfit.
oh yeah good point
Does the fact that Kris faces the player after every cutscene have narrative importance? Do they know?
Of course they know
>G- GERSON
>A- ??
>S- SEAM
>T- TEMMIE
>E- EVERYMAN
>R- ROUXLS
Asriel
||AARON||
Ah ffs wrong spoiler tags
Alright, fess up, what site is that for.
NTA. Its for fricking discord
He needs to get in the fricking corner then.
>we probably won’t see anymore of Berdly because of Snowgrave.
RIP true gamer
>"good" route, he thinks it's just a dream
>"bad" route he's either dead or in a coma or something
>"neutral" route he's alive but his arm is fricked up in the real world, which may lead him to realizing that it wasn't a dream
it will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward
Neo isn't just a meme joke, it has a contextual theme in both deltarune and undertale. The power of neo is the power of a true hero. This is why undyne the undying's theme heavily utilizes the neo leitmotif that mettaton neo also uses. This is why both spamton (smooth taste of neo) and jevil (the true and neo chaos) reference it. This is why susie's theme is called s_neo in the files.
The strange man and susie are true heroes. The player is not.
how does the power of a true hero apply to jevil and spamton? plus, undyne the undying is THE true hero and is never associated with the term neo.
Kris literaly never smiles
(You) don't let him.
Oh frick
The letter a is sus
never played it
never will
simple as
simple ass
shut up tobey either release new shit or people'll forget about your homosexual game
that's why he did the sweepstakes
Don't worry anon, we're with you in the dark
I will never understand why zoomers are so obsessed with Undertale and this shit. Just some ugly Earthbound clones with decent soundtrack and awful gameplay.
Do you actually want like, people to explain to you why they like it, or are you just in here because you need attention?
I am almost 30 and played UT when I was almost 23.
I'm sick of hearing about Undertale and I have the answer for you.
It's the illusion of spontaneity. The idea that everything they're looking at could be easily produced. That all it takes is a notepad and a dream.
I'm dead serious, that's most of it.
>That all it takes is a notepad and a dream.
It does if you're a genius and have a gf willing to draw for you.
Or just the former if you're Pixel.
that's a much better description of YIIK than it is of UT/DR, minus the decent soundtrack
Furry and troony gateway game
does it matter if i do a pacifist on my first run? the choices dont matter, right...? also this jevil fellow is a c**t
>the choices dont matter, right...?
Anon............
just do whatever you feel is right
you'll inevitably replay it later to get the "ideal" routes
i played undertale but never played this shit. i actually don't even know what it is other than it was made by the same guy. is it worth checking out if i liked undertale?
It's free, so yes.
The chapters that are out right now are both free so may as well.
Oh what the frick
Correct, Toby fricks with motiffs not only in music but in SFX too
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHAT'S GOOD NYIGGUH
WHAT'S REALLY GOOD
NO YOU CAN HAVE A TURN WITH THE SOUL LATER I DON'T CARE WHAT MOM SAID
IT'S MY VESSEL I MADE IT
GIMME THE VESSEL
So... what exactly should we not forget?
That you have a cup on your desk, and something in the microwave.
Video games will peak at Deltarune. After that, the medium will be dead, with nothing new that could be possibly be done or said. Same way movies have now been for decades, even though there are still some nice new films that come out.
cool then I can finally die
look man im exited too, but expecting deltarune to be the best thing ever that's also the conclusion to the entire medium is asking too much.
im almost certain you're going to be disappointed once you play it
not that anon but I have complete faith in Toby that the full game will blow me away and be a top 10 of all time
God willing.
The people that do play deltarune what are your politics?
unironic nazi
WHOA DUDES DID YOU KNOW THAT A KRIS IS A KNIFE
Kris is a funny yellow fellow.
If we don't get Berdly as a party member at some point in the normal route I will be mad
>A final/major story boss in the Snowgrave/dark playthrough
>The song has its own leitmotive
>But in the back, you can definitely make out Beethhoven
>tfw I started the "Sexually Transmitted Determination" saga in /sus/
>Another Deltatroon thread