DOOM II > DOOM

DOOM II > DOOM

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    glorified expansion pack

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes? I think that usually tends to be the consensus

      Standing on the shoulders of giants. It had the benefit of starting with the very solid "Doom" foundation and built upon it to make a better game. Easy to understand.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    NRFTL>Plutonia>Doom 64>Doom 1>TNT>Doom 2>POWERGAP>Master Levels

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do people keep including Master Levels when tiering the games/packs? It's literally just a bunch of shitty levels that ID scrounged off the net (probably by hitting random on the idgames archive a bunch of times and grabbing what came up, ) and shoved into a disc to scam people with. Even No Rest For The Level is more official than that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really don't think either campaign of Doom or Doom 2 are really worth discussing today. They're rather primitive, unexciting levels that don't really make most of the enemies and weapons on offer. People say that John Romero is like this visionary of level design, but like, hitscanners in hallways is what they had to make do with for the time, the levels aren't really all that great. I view Doom as more of an engine than an actual game.
      Plutonia is the only classic, commercial Doom campaign I can really say still holds up, Play Doom 1/2's campaign just for the historical aspect of it, play TNT once for the hell of it, but if you're gonna go back to any of those campaigns play Plutonia's. Otherwise, enjoy the benefits of Doom being open source and enjoy the copious amounts of high quality level packs out there.
      For me, it's Going Down.

      What is TNT?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bruh how fukcin old are you lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doom is timeless
      Anyone with a PC can just download some shit and play Doom, there's no reason not to and therefore I think more zoomers have played it than you think. Even if it is GZDoom with mouselook and jumping.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only for the first third of the game

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish id software had the foresight back then to make a single DOOM.WAD with both games, just like they did with Ultimate Doom. Having to choose between doom 1 assets+musics and doom 2's weapons and enemies for map making sucks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not a hard choice, honestly vanilla doom 2 is pretty mid but as a spark for creative WADs it's one of the best games ever. Doom 1 is still good but the things it's lacking really stand out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Put Doom 1's textures and music into a pwad.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if doom 1 had the super shotgun i think i would prefer doom 1 over 2.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about the cool new enemies in Doom 2

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the super shotgun is one of the only things wrong with doom 2

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeha if you're one of those balance NERDS that hates fun and gets bullied in school

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the game would be unbalanced without the ssg

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BROWN
    BRICKS

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Super Shotgun alone makes Doom 2 worth it

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really don't think either campaign of Doom or Doom 2 are really worth discussing today. They're rather primitive, unexciting levels that don't really make most of the enemies and weapons on offer. People say that John Romero is like this visionary of level design, but like, hitscanners in hallways is what they had to make do with for the time, the levels aren't really all that great. I view Doom as more of an engine than an actual game.
    Plutonia is the only classic, commercial Doom campaign I can really say still holds up, Play Doom 1/2's campaign just for the historical aspect of it, play TNT once for the hell of it, but if you're gonna go back to any of those campaigns play Plutonia's. Otherwise, enjoy the benefits of Doom being open source and enjoy the copious amounts of high quality level packs out there.
    For me, it's Going Down.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think I fell in love with Going Down on the time travel level. Good shit.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok but why did Bethesda/ID suddenly give me Doom 3 BFG for free when I already own the vanilla version?
    Not that I mind or anything, I just think it's a bit weird.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They cleaned up the store listings
      Ultimate DOOM is now called DOOM (1993)
      DOOM II now comes with Final Doom and The Master Levels instead of them being sold separately
      DOOM 3 now comes with the BFG Edition

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I see
        Also I noticed they did the same for Quake 2, lumping all DLC together with vanilla Q2
        (Which I find odd because I still own the separate DLCs to this day, but oh well)

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish it was split into episodes like 1 though.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based. The SSG and new demons were good. Though some of the DooM II maps are a slog to go through.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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