>down to 1m players
What the fuck happened to WoW? I know people grow up and move onto other things but why isn't it getting new blood?
>down to 1m players
>down to 1m players
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have you SEEN the last few expansions?
>modern educated estimate
so quite literally Source: my ass
>Google trends is LE LYING
>I don't care if it's correlated 1:1 with historic sub counts
>Google is hiding the 20m WoW players because.. JOOS
Does it tho? Because wow player count peaked right after Cata launch in Dec 2010 and according to your own chart wow's interest has dwindled by 25% by then, when compared to TBC and Wotlk.
Now scoot the blue back and it overlaps 1:1, retard
the wrath flatline is fake and inflated by chink subs
people were realistically sick of wow by the end of TBC
>the wrath flatline is fake and inflated by chink subs
WoW fags aren't interested in gay dragons, what a surprise.
So it was wrath that killed wow
And people shill for it like its the best expansion ever lmao
trends is LE LYING
Google trends is not income or playercount
>I don't care if it's correlated 1:1 with historic sub counts
Source: My Ass
Google Trends doesn't track players, you fucking moron. You don't even need ot like WoW, or any of the games listed, to know this.
XIV has over 2m subscribers
Sneedolands killed the game thoroughly by ruining the setting and having some of the worst gameplay imaginable
it's fine and fun posting otherwise changes nothing.
>there's still a million stockholm syndrome morons paying a monthly fee to play a video game in the year of our lord Jesus Christ 2023
tbf battle passes are the same thing, but still.
it's my most played and always will be, but it's time to die
How do you pay to win?
So non-white non-male non-straight characters like there have been since WC3?
>replacing painting of women with bowls of fruit
stop being a disingenuous gay, anon
>omg wheelchairs are LGBTQIAP+
>I need MORE women in my games or else it's woke feminist garbage! Wokeness only wants to show us MEN
>if I-I call you gay I win!!!! I'm not a virgin
incels be like this meme has more than 5 words it's too long help me Jorden Peterson
How many tears did you shed over Drecthar having a wheelchair?
>How many tears did you shed over Drecthar having a wheelchair?
none because I'm not a dumbass who gets emotional when seing some group of people I don't give a fuck about being represented in a goyslop game, you ignored the whole point which was that they're spending resources on bullshit but not enough on actually interesting stuff
>words words words
Libtards can't meme
tldr: you are gay
instead of spending resources on heckin wholesome wheelchair dragons, they could instead spend resources on something useful or something people actually want see (and no through some ideological bullshit reason)
Finally, people in wheelchairs can now live out their wildest fantasies; being in a wheelchair in a video game.
I wonder when they'll make a sonic game where sonic is in a wheelchair, it'd make me so fucking happy to see my desires be represented in a video game so I can live them
someone modeled that """wheelchair""" and thought it looks okay lmao
>dude we lost an entire raid tier to a wheel chair!!!
>omg lol that wheel chair looks like it took 3 minutes to make
I see no logical fallacy here
Really? Defending Blizzard after they were found to have a woke chart to list of all the woke points to introduce in the games?
chud redditor and Blizzard cock sucker and a lefty? Jesus fucking christ, at least good you will have a nice day in due time.
Drek'thar has been in a wheelchair since Cataclysm, did you cry about that too?
>How do you pay to win?
You LITERALLY have to buy gold to buy runs to gear up unless you're in a great guild, in which case you're just selling runs. The entire fucking game is based on buying and selling power you dimwit.
>So non-white non-male non-straight characters like there have been since WC3?
have a nice day. I'm serious, you are a stain on the world and should've stayed a stain on your mom's tits. Nothing you will ever do will be remembered because you can't help but lie like and equivocate like a fucking woman.
>You LITERALLY have to buy gold to buy runs to gear up unless you're in a great guild, in which case you're just selling runs. The entire fucking game is based on buying and selling power you dimwit.
Omg you "have" to buy runs because you want to solo an MMO how sad
>have a nice day. I'm serious, you are a stain on the world and should've stayed a stain on your mom's tits. Nothing you will ever do will be remembered because you can't help but lie like and equivocate like a fucking woman.
Suicide is a sin, as is trying to make someone sin.
good job outing yourself as an obnoxious clown that no one wants in their guild and thanks for funding my tokens by buying power
the worst thing about this expansion was region-wide auction house because now the economy went to shit in record time and I only managed to get 100€ worth of bnet currency in two months
real money=token=ingame money
i know the defense morons like you say, what do you win huh?. Literally you can't win any world race without thousands of dollars. Also because of the token the game is a boost fest
are you really saying wow is not woke? half of dragonflight quest are "did i tell you i'm gay? now get some flowers for my husband" also may you be blessed with many daughters, hahahah
>are you really saying wow is not woke? half of dragonflight quest are "did i tell you i'm gay? now get some flowers for my husband" also may you be blessed with many daughters, hahahah
So woke is just you being afraid of people who aren't like you existing in a fantasy universe? How do you even watch stuff like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or even Marvel?
>How do you even watch stuff like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or even Marvel?
If he's anything like me, he doesn't.
i'm not afraid, is just tiring. Also is clear they hate white hetero males, so why is bad hating them back?
>Also is clear they hate white hetero males,
>including people unlike me in a fantasy universe means they hate white hetero males
Jesus you guys are almost as bad as garden gnomes with your made up victim complexes lmao
I don't want to look at cripples when I play video games
i see. you are just a disingenuous cunt and not worthy of my time. surely the fat chuds with purple hair devs love my existence
Denying reality does not change it. Whites are unjustly persecuted everywhere in society.
You have a mind, I can't force you to use it.
Virgin weebs rule the world.
>unironically defending hamfistedly inserting gaypandering or blackwashed garbage where it doesn't belong
I don't mind gay stories or blackcentric narratives, but taking already existing characters and changing their race or deciding that they suddenly are gay or inserting morons where they don't belong like that rings of power trash is downright insulting to both the viewer and the source material, and I do not understand how even the pandered-to can stomach it.
>I don't mind gay stories or blackcentric narratives
>let's pander to 10% of our playerbase while we completly antagonize the other 90%
>wtf why is everyone quitting or not even trying out the expansion???
The 10% spend the most, blizzard monetizes their whales for maximum profit
the MMO formula is fucking trash
>not skill based
>grind based garbage
>meta game based garbage where you just do what some fucking wiki tells you to do and then go on to mindlessly press a few buttons on repeat for hours
They turned a shitty game into a shitty fetish game.
When wasn't it a fetish game? Every race was made to appeal to a fetish.
I think it had a pretty good run. 18 years is a very long time.
why are there wow interns ITT defending this steaming pile of dogshit? does blizzard really spend money on shilling?
>if it not something me like anymore (because FREE CHING CHONG) then NOBODY LIKE
>in a game that looks like wow
maybe if they upgraded the graphics zoomers would care
Imagine being Microsoft, overpaying for Blizzard Activision when all of their IPs outside of COD are just tanking with no way out, and Blizzard recently just pist off china, they're biggest income, lmao
XIV is just way better and everyone figured it out (except for the terminally stupid.)
holy shit that's pathetic
MMORPGs as a genre are just dead. It's not WoW alone, even by your estimates it's still by far the most popular mmo in the world.
The genre just can't find its own identity.
Everyone tries to be the wow killer by cloning wow and doing same things worse in the process.
MMOs fail to amass younger playerbase and normies who may enjoy competitive aspect of PVP and PVE because of the character progression and itemization being in the way, so esports and normie crowd sticks to mobas and sandbox pvp games instead.
The classic MMO enjoyers and people who played these games for their social aspect are pushed to the sideline because of that fixation on esports and competitiveness, which leaves both parties dissatisfied.
The OG audience is also too old now and doesn't have the time to grind for PVP ranks 16 hours a day for 3 months as they have jobs, hobbies and families.
So you're left with no core audience, zoomers and call of duty normies find the game to be too slow paced and boring before you get to the meat and potatoes, the OG audience feels alienated as the game resembles mobas solo queue more than anything.
TBC caused irreparable damage to WoW, and classic fell into the exact same pitfalls rather than fixing the decade old mistake.
It had a great run, was genre defining for a generation, game doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.
Wow should have been shot down in 2010.
>the wokest company in the market
>the most greedy and antiuser company
what did xhey mean by this?
Just because they label it educated doesn't make it any more than a complete fucking guess. What a stupid image
>educated estimate numbers
How can there be only 1 million subs if there's a fuckton of parses for Ulduar in WOTLKC alone? Not to mention the semi-casuals playing that game as well as all the Dragonflight chuds.
Dunno about the rest of the world but at least on Burning Legion the Polish community is basically consisting in 80% of non-payers. They just grind gold or provide boosting services and buy wow tokens. Sub =/= player count anymore. My filthy rich guild leader in Legion and BFA who ran a boosting community on our realm could afford the ah mount and buy 2 years worth of tokens to get those gay ass 12 months RAF transmogs, he even buys the xpacs with tokens.
>Free trial last weekend
>Wanted to skip this exp since BFA and SL were dogshit
>Give it a try anyway
>Get to dragon island
>Nothing special happens, you just take a boat there
>Think of MoP, WoD, Legion, BFA, Shadowlands that all had an at least mildly interesting intro
>Do some quests
>Finally get dragon riding
>Have fun for all of 5 minutes trying it out. It doesn't feel great. There is no weight to it. You can go around corners instantly. Easy as shit, no skill required
>Don't even have to press forward while gliding
>Continue a few quests
>Still nothing interesting happening
>Get that, kill this, cutscene
>Don't see any players around me at all
>Get to first dungeon
>Can't do it because you're locked to 60 during the trial
>Every level you get a BUY NOW popup
>Decide to try out dragon race instead
>Create character, ugly as fuck human form but I try to work around it
>Get race mount
>Ugly as fuck
>Can't fly (?)
>Reskin of the unicorns
>Finish intro where nothing happens
>Get to stormwind
>Would you like to buy the game now? :^)
Why the FUCK would I buy it/resub? I gained nothing. Nothing happened. I'm in a new location where I can fly through rings now by pointing my camera at the direction. I found a chest that I opened and it it had 5 trash items and an ugly cosmetic inside it. The one player I met and thought he had a cool mount (Giant cat) turns out I'd have to buy that too.
WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE PLAY THIS GAME? What is the POINT? At least in FFXIV I can look at cat ass and play dressup. I have nothing in wow.
Played since end of Cata. Played on WotlK private servers before though.
The game's soulless. There's like a 0% chance to have any interesting or fun social interactions in this dogshit game anymore unless you straight up go out of your own way to seek them through party and guild finders. Even then it usually feels like a job, people working towards the goal while barely tolerating each other. I didn't feel any soul in this game since private scene has died.
your post makes it sound like you're completely new to MMORPGs or WoW but that doesn't really make sense when you're complaining about BFA and SL
flying is unlocked after around 2 hours of questing
why are people so obsessed with asspulling percentages? people just have better things to do than sink their time into WoW and the ones who play WoW play the game just quit until the next major content patch comes around
Pic related. Stormwind and least ugly female dragon I could make.
>your post makes it sound like you're completely new to MMORPGs or WoW but that doesn't really make sense when you're complaining about BFA and SL
flying is unlocked after around 2 hours of questing
I've played MMOs since TBC, just not necessarily WoW. My first MMO was Metin2. I also played a bunch of other stuff like GW2, Nostale, FlyFF, Aion, Tera, etc.
If you mean dragon flying, I unlocked that a lot sooner than 2 hours. But I stopped continuing past that point.
If you mean normal flying as dragon (from flying trainer) then I unlocked that also a lot sooner than 2 hours. As soon as you get to the main city you have enough to buy it.
I want through a lot of shit man. And I feel confident when I say that objectively WoW and other MMOs aswell as games in general are all going to absolute doshit, with maybe an exception here and there. For a lot of reasons I can't be bothered to list here.
okay now explain why you think the trial version (for which you paid nothing) should offer you content that you can blast through in a weekend just like your ffxiv (for which you paid)
NNTA, but I think WoW's free trial should include everything except DF and maybe SL, with no time limit
Everybody knows WoWs content is endgame only. The days of "The journey is where the fun is" are long gone. So from a busyness standpoint it'd make more sense to let me experience the full thing over a weekend, no matter if I would get to max level or not, since the want to HOOK me, not make me play for 5 minutes and be done with it.
The decision for a free weekend and how it works was obviously made by some higher up money hungry garden gnome goblin that doesn't know how the fuck MMOs work. Make me get to a point where I want or NEED to play more. Gating content while preventing me to level up in an RPG is the opposite of a hook. Besides. I could blast through the story without doing dungeons anyway. I'd just stay 60. The exp gets "banked" and applied as soon as I buy the expansion. Which is even WORSE, because the quest gear is scaled, meaning if I reach level 69 "banked" and I buy the game, all my quest gear I got would still be 60. Meaning I actually LOSE progress by playing in during the trial
Please don't tell me that is your character and you're actually proudly showing it off
it's an MMO gay, might as well play skyrim
There is a mod that lets you share your mods live. It's incredibly autistic technology. But if you use it to be a big tit lalafell dancing the ME ME ME dance, then other's in your "mod group" see that too.
still fake, still cringe as fuck, still defeats the purpose of playing an MMO unless you're only interested in ERP.
What is the purpose of playing an MMO then? Getting the best gear? Getting the coolest/prettiest looking gear? Mounts? Pets? Finding "friends along the way"?
What the fuck are you talking about. There's it's vanilla with a shading mod. The game looks like that except you wouldn't have literal studio lighting everywhere. That would be an eyesore retard.
>Show modded pic
>>Hey that doesn't look like the game
>Yeah, here's one where it is exactly like in the game, except for the studio like lighting specifically for this screenshot
>>T-THERE NO LOGIC AAAAAAAAAAA
But fine. Here's your full low res vanilla screenshot with low settings graphics. Now you can reply to this post with "SEE, I TOLD YOU IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT LMAOOO XDDDD"
Oh now I understand, you assumed I was going to say how shit the game looks, so you went on a zealous defense that the game actually looks good. I only wanted to point out that the original modbeast looked ugly as fuck and that the first bikini catgirl doesn't even look like it's from XIV
>This doesn't look like FF
>It does, here's proof
>Okay fine, here's pure vanilla
>Oh, no, you actually misunderstood, you see... :^)
>The entire world is US time
Braindead amerimutt. It's 16:30 here. And even that doesn't mean everyone is in the same timezone on this realm.
Nice defense loser lmao
For the record, I think the less modded pics you posted look relatively the best. I don't even know what point you're trying to make or what you're trying to argue. I was simply making fun of how shit the modbeasts look. I never asked for proof of anything, and I don't really think you showed proof of anything either.
I think you should take your meds in any case.
>this unmodded pic that looks nothing like the modded pic is proof that the modded pic looks like vanilla
everything you posted looks like shit so not sure what your point is.
Aka, you could literally ERP and have actual consensual sex animations where both parties have to do their part. Simply for that reason I believe FFXIV will never die. Even if they stop updating the game, the porn will keep it alive as long as the servers live.
Oh it's a FF-friend. Nevermind
>Pic rel its an old capitol at 6am on a weekday when everyone is at the new xpac capitol
Dumb poster. Why do people get on dead servers to show the game is dead?
Modded ass or one you get when wearing 2B pants
It's not. I only use reshade as far as mods go. However, I'd consider the pic you're referring to and this one to not be modded too heavily. Pic 1 is just high res hair, ears and skin. This one is literally just a body + swimsuit mod.
I got them from google.
>I'd consider the pic you're referring to and this one to not be modded too heavily.
Are you out of your mind? If I saw these pics out of context I might think they're from Skyrim
It honestly isn't that bad. Here's one from the Transmog/Glamour website. The only "mod" here is reshade. And this is just a random one I found in like 1 minute. I think it's pretty similar to the one you are referring to. Except for the ears and high res textures. And obviously the entirely different character. But I'm talking more about general look and mods.
>Show pics that don't have any assets from the game, everything is modded
>Hey that doesn't even look like the game
>Yeah, but here's other pics that aren't modded as much, therefore the other pics aren't that bad either
What the fuck kind of logic is that
Another, fully unmodded except maybe shading. I'm not sure here though. Since there is a photomode with filters in the game. Plus photoshop exists.
China is kill.
Where are my OSRS chads?
>inevitably devolves into an autistic furfag/bestliaty shit thanks to xiv chudies.
>thanks to xiv chudies
Anon, one of the main draws of this expansion is LITERALLY a scalie race.
>one of the main draws
Explains why the game is dead then and not played by even the biggest of twitch addicts out there.
seriously who the fuck plays mmos anymore if not boomers?
Bit by bit people get fucking tired. I even stopped playing ragnarok now.
The only worthwhile thing to come out of WoW was Li Li
I don’t have the burning hatred for modern WoW that a lot of former addicts seem to carry with them, but I’m also happy that I broke the curse and am finally free. I’ll always have some good memories, but I’ve mostly spent the years since giving up WoW catching up on all the games I was too busy to play because WoW ate up all my fucking time. And I swore I would never play another live service game for as long as I live.
>that a lot of former addicts
most of them aren't even that
they're just completely mindbroken weebs
The genre in general has been in decline for a while for reasons litigated so many times I'll not bother typing them out again.
WoW specifically is suffering from a combination of being old enough to drink, milked to death, the epic of suevanas (bfa and legion) destroying the internal consistency of the setting and reaching the limit of truly new content they can provide in a tab target hotbar combat game engine.
you don't need mods to look cool
>FFXIV shill posts "vanilla" screenshot of his game to prove it looks good.
>It's a screenshot of a character with the entire background blurred beyond recognition and a bunch of post-processing lighting tacked on through a third party app.
>Meanwhile the game's environments actually look like this no matter how much you increase your settings.
Why do they even bother shilling their game in threads about WoW's decline? It's an extremely soulless WoWclone that doesn't even have a seamless open world.
>Too retarded to quote
It was in response to "cat ass?". Hence, posting a pic of cat ass you fucking mongoloid. Nobody is comparing general graphical fidelity.
Yes, the environments look like fucking ass, which will hopefully improve after 7.0 where they're doing some graphical overhauling.
The shit formula they created with the game turned out to not be sustainable.
DUDE! Activision literally hates their customers. It looks like it could be fun, but I hate people who hate me. I want them to die. I can't give money to those people dude. They want me dead, I want them dead. We can't exchange culture. No way, no how.
Woah, cool it with the racism
>BFA and Shadowlands one-two punch of bad expansions. Shadowlands was definitely not an "apology" expansion like Legion was to WoD
>Total raping of the lore and players by this point are fucking tired of Sylvanas
>Shadowlands itself and its patches were delayed to shit
Still the biggest and best MMO. You still and always will have a Y chromosome.
that seems like a massive overestimation to me, I would be surprised if wow is at more than half a million, no way xiv is smaller than it at least.
as for ESO I wonder if a lot of it's searches are just people curious about the lore with no intention to actually play it