We already know EGS sales are abysmal. Aside from the apple trial numbers, you have devs saying the EGS portions of their sales account for less than 1 percent.
him confusing EGS with ESG aside, ESG is actually taxpayer funded because the governments pay subventions for various things.
here's the official netflix report about it
https://assets.ctfassets.net/4cd45et68cgf/ZqADnKYzRH6qMnbcNOdQW/458a4af511bb352954c91d95edd46c2c/Executive_Summary_Inclusion_in_Netflix_Series_and_Films_4.18.23__1_.pdf
https://downloads.ctfassets.net/4cd45et68cgf/7rnC6zK537cM8zAGrXA90E/3c654a2d0023a4dac26a20b2fff39855/Netflix_2022-ESG-Report-FINAL.pdf
Looks like the bots decided to spam this post for some reason, really got people riled up
Next thing people will say blackrock being in the same bed of the federal reserve is a conspiracy theory
There's people who literally release their games as FOSS, they literally expect a whooping amount of zero dollars in sales and they literally didn't care a bit that their game costed them thousands of hours of work, because they do that as a feat to themselves rather than a way of earning cash.
People really need to be more humble and with their feet on the ground, it's better to release something for free and build a resume for yourself than be seething and moaning about how you're entitled to other people's money and time.
>I build them to make games I want to play, not to construct some sort of portfolio
I used to be like that but the issue is if I want to work on other people's project, I got to have some form of portfolio. And so I comprised by having a Newgrounds for public facing/portfolio work, and Vidii for shitposts
>People really need to be more humble and with their feet on the ground, it's better to release something for free and build a resume for yourself than be seething and moaning about how you're entitled to other people's money and time.
cuck mindset. FOSS is also a cancer for programmers, not only does it devalue them (reducing duplicate efforts has some merit though), but it encourages free labour to get your foot in the door
I played Ashes 2063 which is perhaps the best boomer shooter after Blood and is completely free. The author also made expansion and when people want to donate to him he refuses. Some people simply want a passion project and enjoy when it makes others happy. If you as a single dev start making a game because you want to make money, it's over. Sure, make the project with profitability in mind but you should be ruled by your own want to tell something that is deep within.
you alright frogposter. I'm sort of the same way. the idea anyone could even spend time with anything I'm involved in would make me really happy. If I even have one viewer in a stream I'm satisfied and feel the need to keep going for that person.
You've never made anything and you won't.
You think that you'd be stoked by a single sale because it means you made somebodys whole life just that little bit better.. :')
and this is an attractive prospect for you because you have low self esteem.
Literally you would aspire to spend years working on something just to be worthy of one person to click a button in response, and somebody is to blame for turning you into this.
That's because you picture a sale as something grand and personal, with the buyer caring deeply about what you made, rather than a tick of a digit it really is, with 50% chance said person is going to ever play your game and 10% chance he'll make it to the credits roll.
Cool. But what if you made that video game to pay for your rent and food?
But a dumb frogposter probably lives leaching off his mom, so that would never cross his mind.
>But what if you made that video game to pay for your rent and food?
Then you're a fucking retard. Get a job. You shouldn't be making video games if you're financially destitute.
>spend 100's of hours laboring for something >miss birthdays, spend weekends inside, all working on a project >hundreds of hours and potentially thousands (tens of thousands?) of dollars invested later >release the game >one person buys it >feel sad >DUDE, YOU NEED TO BE MORE HUMBLE, THAT'S LIKE, REALLY HECKIN' EPIC
you clearly are a 12 year old homosexual that has never worked a day in his life and therefore doesn't know the value of hardwork. please, i am begging you to have a nice day
This is the easiest thing to say for those who never made anything and will never make anything.
They have no concept of investing time into things.
No, spending 3 years of your life on something that only 1 person enjoys is an objective waste of your life and the best you can take away from it is not to do something this stupid and unlikeable again
I dunno about you man but I make music that I upload for free. Sometimes I will spend a month working on just 1 song and I never expect a single person to pay a dime for the music. If I started working on games I would take a similar approach, although I definitely wouldn't release the shit on EGS of all things.
>spending 3 years of your life on something that only 1 person enjoys is an objective waste of your life
Everything is a waste of life anon. We are all just doing things that make us forget we are mortals. If your activity releases feel good chemicals and makes the voices in your head quiet then it's time well spent.
>such a sheltered cuck that didn't invest any of his time on developing skills and making something out of them he thinks we should all be defeatist cucks like him
Kys you waste of oxygen
It's your own projection. Also lifting weights will not help you out if you are such an aimless nihilistic cuck. lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Things that make us angry are revealing our shadows. Maybe you are afraid that your aims are pointless?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you 15? What kind of notion is that? I can easily get worked up over some retarded homosexual speaking some nonsensical bullshit. Not every rage inducing thing is a projection. Do i hate Afro-Americans because i am simply projecting about my own shortcomings? No, i hate them because they are annoying and self-entitled cunts.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What kind of notion is that?
Jung.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao Imagine dictating your life based on what some philosopher cuck perceived his life a hundred years ago without any objection or learning about other perspectives. Maybe try thinking for yourself then maybe you will stop being a sad little wimp. This is no different than religious fundamentalism. This is proof that you don't need dogmatic religions to be a retarded homosexual.
>went to college (uk college, 2yr sub-undergrad degrees) for game development after high school >made a 2D fighting game for final project >had 2 characters, each character had 2 different attacks and a unique mechanic >was basically complete trash as a game, pretty sure one of the characters was bugged on p2 side etc. >handed it in anyway >found out later that two of my tutors spent an entire lunchtime playing it together >got an A
feelsgoodman
It's great to lower your expecations in such a competitive industry and all, but most people would be rightly disappointed to only get a single sale, or a single download, from something they worked so hard on.
If you think that makes someone not humble enough, I think you're lacking compassion.
>Is that what's happening?
That's what Epic's staff claims.
What's more likely is, the playtime numbers are faked to make it look like there's more activity going on. >inb4 why not fake the sales numbers too
Because more sales = more money Epic has to give to the dev.
Yes, it's actually how EGS "cracks" work. They use a hidden account that owns the game and its played through that. It's how the first Denuvo crack also worked.
How? Games cost just as much on EGS so customers aren't affected and what workers are being harmed with the fee? Shouldn't Valve's workers get paid for keeping Steam up and running?
>30% fee is also anti customer and anti worker
lmao, square Enix's workers are salaried, they don't get a bonus because the fee is lower. All the extra cash is goes directly up to the top brass, and if the game sells poorly (it will) teams get shuffled around, disbanded, or fired.
Youre an idiot and yes it matters. Sorry your online store sucks so much dick it gets ignored.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>yes it matters
Why? At the end of the day all that matters is that it's exklusive, and Steam has the most number of exclusive games by far
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because CHOICE. Valve doesn't force anything. EGS does.
Thats why the world chooses to ignore EGS, and will continue to do so.
Glory to the customer. Death to EGS.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like I said, why does that matter to ME as a consumer?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because you know exactly who to blame. Its Nintendo that wont sell on PC for example. If capcom releases on sony but not on xbox or PC know who makes that call.
Valve isnt forcing anything here. Its why people actually use steam, not just because thats the only store. Theres many stores but theyre scummy and deal in exclusivity so nobody wants them. You think valve has an unfair monopoly? No everyone else is just too fucking sleazy, too controlling.
EGS could have been great if it was just simply a store, but then the bullshit comes along...no thanks ill do my business in a straightforward manner thank you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't care about any of that as a consumer, in the end exclusive is exclusive and Steam has over 30k exclusive games.
If you actually cared about stopping console bullshit and exclusive shit on PC gaming you should make daily threads shitting on Steam.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stop insulting the customer! Thats your problem and epics problem. They fucking care or epic wouldn't be an abject failure dipshit.
The assumption that people are dumb and will suck up any shit you put out no matter how much you insult them for it is why Disney has hemorrhaged money for half a fucking decade now.
Stop treating your customer like garbage for fuck sake.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>valve should make their product worse so less developers want to exclusively use it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you actually cared about stopping console bullshit and exclusive shit on PC gaming you should make daily threads shitting on Steam.
Lmao. If you genuinely believe any of that tripe you're spewing, you'd ask for these devs to put their games on their own websites, Epic and GoG. After all, Steam isnt going to stop them from doing so. Tell the dev you'll buy it on EGS if he sells it there->he sells it there->you buy it there->no console exclusivity bullshit. Problem solved!
But you dont, so of course you wont.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The thing is EGS failed at even being a simple store
It was worse than what Shoppify offers you out of the box, so their only draw was curating what they sell, so that people wouldn't have to dig through trash like they have to on Steam allegedly.
Except EGS will unironically shill you NFT games now that are worse than anything you can find on Steam.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Valve wont stop that dev from selling his game on EGS. But EGS will stop the dev from selling his game on Steam. That's how.
>exclusivity bad! (but only when is done by the platforms that I don't personally like)
Don't pretend you're anti exclusivity, you're pro exclusivity with a different coat of paint.
Well valve doesnt have exclusivity requirements...but people still exclusively distribute and buy from them.
EGS does have exclusivity requirements...and nobody uses it.
Now connect those dots dumbass...
oh >nobody is stopping them bitch
well then why are u mad when devs do the same "thing" when they make their game only on gog or itch io or egs?
nobody is stopping them from doing that either...
The issue is 3rd party exclusivity deals. Only Epic does them which is why EGS gets so much hate and why people go out of their way to never use EGS on principle.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why would a monopoly engage with exclusivity deals in the first place?
I swear Ganker is filled with actual moronic 18year old babies first forum zoomers...
also >steam launch, forced updates through steam, orange box, etc
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why is the "monopoly" so much better for consumers than the competition? only EGS is engaging in anti-consumer practices here
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the "monopoly" was first on the market, had plenty of time to do anti consumer shit before facebook/social media became massively popular with the normans, reaps all the rewards by harvesting the new pc gaming gamers while ditching most of the old 90s pc gamers, now they get to have unhinged retards shilling for them for free (lol) everytime some sad little company attempts to compete with a day 1 competitor product
POG
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Now that is a fuckup more devestating than Tim's existence.
Why does this man make you seethe?
maybe if timmy had put money into actually making EGS worth using instead of dumping all the money into exclusivity deals and shills like you then people wouldn't hate him? you're not going to win over consumers by trying to use raw force to strongarm them onto your platform
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thanks anon, another pic to add to my /fuckepic thread bingo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
enjoy, homosexual
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>maybe if you day one store had all the same features as """our""" 20 year old store """we""" mayhaps would not hate it
lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
EGS still lacks features steam had on day 1. The user experience clearly isn't a priority, but they were still eager enough to put spyware into it years before implementing a fucking shopping cart.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He's still spamming this shit that has been debunked years and years ago
AIEEEEEE THAT PROGRAM IS DOING STUFF THAT LOOKS SCARY SAVE ME GABEN!!!!! LET ME USE STEAM THAT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>deboooked
no it isn't you fucking shill
>STEAM THAT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!
Steam doesn't scan my hard drive to see what stores and games I've got installed. Steam doesn't even collect any analytical data outside of things the current game you're playing, playtime, cheevos and an opt in hardware survey.
Might as well enlighten anons. Boot up Epic and show us your task manager.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Another one to the bingo, thanks anon!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
please post your bingo so I can have a nice, organized collage of all the gay shit epic does
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>same stale "spyware" meme >same "it's between a full year and still" meme
i now get what old boomers meant when they shit on me when I was 20...
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Agree to let Epic connect with Steam friends so you can play games together >Epic scans your Steam friendslist so you can connect to your friends
NOOOOO STOP THIS!!!!!!!!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Reminder that you need to give Valve your fucking phone number to play their games
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
By their games, you mean just Counter Strike 2
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
and by need you mean can if you want to play with other people who did
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
imagine microsoft says they're gonna end the samsung monopoly on smartphones and they come out with a blackberry in 2023, people would rightly laugh them out (except for the few indian retards paid not to, looking at you anon)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>piss poor analogies
good one dood!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it's pretty good, an establised company says they're gonna revolutioinise something and release a product that's 15 years outdated, that''s the exact same scenario, sorry you lack the mental capacity for abstract thinking
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmfao even in their own material they admit that steam traffic is organic lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
noone has had monopoly on selling videogames since the fucking 70s, go take your meds
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's not a monopoly bros, just 4head make something as good lol >also, *grabs your arm* *punches you with your own fist* why are you hitting yourself? lmao
>this simple sentence kills the pedo incel steamie
looking at steam's top sellers >counter strike 2
valve's game so steam exclusive >EA sports fc
also on EGS and the EA launcher >Cyberpunk 2077
gog >War thunder
has its own launcher >foorball manager 2024
EGS >RDR2
EGS, rockstar launcher >anno 1800
EGS >call of duty
windows store >Baldur's gate 3
gog >euro truck simulator 2
gog
and that's just top 10, my question to you is: why the fuck do you have to lie to make a point?
If you're a well established developer, yes. If you're a new indie, taking that deal means your chances of getting an audience on Steam just got even slimmer.
I played two Remedy games, Quantum Break and Control, and I enjoyed both. AW2 looks like atmospheric narrative game I would enjoy. I have a good PC but I play mostly indies on it so it would be nice to play a movie game for a change.
I don't care and I am sure all 9 people who have the hardware and Epic launcher installed and want to play a narrative horror bought it. It's on Playstation and Xbox. I would buy it on Steam on GOG but again, Epic doesn't want my money, they want me to pirate their published product.
>You'd be a goddamn fool to not take the deal.
Tell that to Obshitian who destroyed the goodwill they had with their playerbase by selling out to EGS with The Outer Worlds and enraging all the people on Steam (i.e. the entirety of their playerbase).
Obsidian didn't make that deal, nor did they benefit from it in any way. 2K/Private Division did. Obsidian's employees were still making updates to Outer Worlds' Steam page the morning the announcement came out. If Feargus Urquhart is to be believed, even he didn't know and only found out when it was in the news. I'm willing to give the Ferg-man some credit here because they never worked with PD ever again. Granted they got bought by Microsoft but that's another matter.
Epic doesn't do exclusivity deals with indies anymore though, hasn't for over a year. He most likely either bought into the "fight for the developers" bullshit and put his game on Epic first to contribute to the cause.
Why are VaIvedrones like this? It's actually a fucking cult behavior.
And why do people pretend that somehow shitty games on Steam sell thousands of copies, when even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
the narrative is that you steamies/epigs are fucking retarded and should kys blud fr fr ong
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good morning sir.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>retarded shill bluescreened after mentioning gog and itch.io
lol love to see it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>bluescreened !!!!! bluescreened !!!! >what about gog.com and itch.io ????? >they are absolute insuferable degenerates as well !!! why are you not posting shit about them as well ???????????????
m-a-z-e-d
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>shill.exe stopped working entirely >just screaming and posting incoherent greentexts >all because of the mere mention of gog and itch.io
L-M-A-O
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
good morning sir.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
sup pajeet. did you successfully reboot?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>NO U!
good morning sir!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no answer.
Let's try this again. Hello, pajeet. did you successfully reboot?
>nooooooooooooooooo da shills are ignoring the whataboutthis stores!
DO NOT REDEEM THE STEAM CODES SAAAAAAAAAARS !
it's their motto, because existence of other stores breaks their "Steam is a monopoly" narrative
been like that ever since epic chink store opened up
Epic shills dont get it. This isnt a console or brand war. This is the open PC space! I will use my own hardware of my choosing and the OS of my choosing and i will damn well use tge stores of my choosing.
I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io. I will fucking pirate of need be. ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
I refuse the lack of choice that comes with EGS. Simple as. This shit isnt your fuckin console war.
In the PC space i can literally buy a steamdeck install a different OS and never touch valves store...because its my shit and i do what i please asshole. FUCK EPIC. FUCK EXCLUSIVITY. AND FUCK NOT HAVING A CHOICE. That shits for console fags too dumb or lazy to use a PC.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io. >ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
Based and same.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Reposting this as it sums it all up. its not about EGS vs valve its about hating EGS.
Epic shills dont get it. This isnt a console or brand war. This is the open PC space! I will use my own hardware of my choosing and the OS of my choosing and i will damn well use tge stores of my choosing.
I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io. I will fucking pirate of need be. ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
I refuse the lack of choice that comes with EGS. Simple as. This shit isnt your fuckin console war.
In the PC space i can literally buy a steamdeck install a different OS and never touch valves store...because its my shit and i do what i please asshole. FUCK EPIC. FUCK EXCLUSIVITY. AND FUCK NOT HAVING A CHOICE. That shits for console fags too dumb or lazy to use a PC.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and the OS of my choosing
Not if you're using Steam
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
linux or windows asswipe. yes if youre using steam lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Steam works on windows or linux. probably mac if youre gay.
Also way to ignore GoG and Itch.io again. Fuck EXCLUSIVITY AND ANTI CUSTOMER PRACTICES THAT ONLY EPIC DOES.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nothing lasts forever. Even fagnite will go away. And then the anti customer bullshit will die alongside EGS
I use windows 7 because I'm not a Pajeet and won't be able to use Steam in 2 months.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Does EGS support Win7?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, no idea about the future but for now it does.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
likely not much longer honestly. But shills are desperate for literally any straw they can grasp onto.
They always forget about GoG or itch.io and try to make it about valve...as if this entire thread is about anything but hating EGS
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
EGS also uses the same chrome embedded framework that steam uses so w7 will most likely be dropped soon as well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
feel free to use linux or mac then. Your choice 🙂
Also stop ignoring GoG and Itch.io Epic shill! Its not about loving valve its about hating epic.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's really this simple. Epic exclusivity doesn't make me want to install their store, they actually turn me away from the store even more because I think oh it's the company that is paying developers to prison the games on their Fortnite launcher, fuck them. Any Epic exclusive is either ignored or pirated.
Yeah and? It's got a lot of games and had an era of gib valve $100 get on steam no background check. Defend it all day if you want, just lurk this guys page till Dec 5th and see if he gets more sales on epic than steam.
Valve's fanbase has been pretty cultlike for a while now. But in this case especially, they could just pirate the games but instead choose to waste money on digital licenses during sales designed around exploiting FOMO. So they invested a lot of money into this, causing this erratic behavior.
>why are people upset with exclusivity deal bullshit that they never had to deal with on PC before EGS
it's a mystery
>And why do people pretend that somehow shitty games on Steam sell thousands of copies, when even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
lol?
>This shitty game with zero advertisement didn't sell on Epic store! >but I got lots of sales on Steam because my game was on a humble bundle!
Yeah dude, it's Tim's fault his shitty game didn't sell.
>it's Tim's fault his shitty game didn't sell
It sure is. EGS is like a marketing blackhole. People didn't even know Darkest Dungeon 2 existed for fucking years because it was an EGS exclusive for the longest time.
>EGS is like a marketing blackhole
You mean like Steam?
>spend a lot time making an unique and interesting game >pay the biggest streamer to stream it and shill the game >have them stream in front of like 100k people in total >only like 100 copies sold
Your game is on Steam? No copies sold.
Even if you stream your game to 100k people nobody will buy it if it's on Steam.
>People didn't even know Darkest Dungeon 2 existed for fucking years because it was an EGS exclusive for the longest time.
No, they didn't know about it because they did ZERO marketing while it was on EGS/early-access.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>steam is a monopoly! >also nobody uses steam
I think there might be a flaw in your shilling script.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, 100k people got advertised to, and 100k people flexed their frontal cortex and decided the game is shit. Now that is a fuckup more devestating than Tim's existence.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Now that is a fuckup more devestating than Tim's existence.
Why does this man make you seethe?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I sure hope you're getting paid for this, cuz even in normalfag space, EGS is eternally in the red, and everyone still uses steam and maybe gog.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and everyone still uses steam
Riots launcher alone has more users than all of Steam.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol has less active user than steam. plus the overlap is probably 1:1
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Riot counts the same person having ever played 2 different games as 2 people.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And Valve counts all the million bots they have that farm items drops in their games.
>Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe ( Epic supports € for devs, but Steam only $), also there is only 12% charge on Epic vs Steam (30% charge + transfer fees + 5% royalties owed to epic for using Unreal Engine); Epic has no fees for Europe € and you are not required anymore to pay that 5% royalties for using Unreal Engine if you publish on their launcher
Jesus Christ, the dev actually fell for the "12% cut is better" scam. I almost feel bad for him. Almost.
The guy is basically the king of Epic-shills and on pretty much EVERY Steam board for games that are somewhat related to the EGS, be it due to exlusivity deals or the game being free on it, in every EGS-related comment section on gaming sites, every EGS twitter discussion, every Epic Leddit sub, etc.
And he does it for like 4-5 years by now.
This shill is also the main moderator of r/EpicGamesPC
he's going under Cord_Cutter_VR nickname there
And how do you know this? It's like you're coming from a place that has extreme obsession about Epic games or something.
This is not just some random knowledge, it's an actual obsession. It's time to go back to /fuckepic
Also I searched for Eisberg on the subreddit just because I was curious, and guess what? There's posts there saying EXACTLY what you just told me.
I was just kidding before when I said you were from reddit, but it's actually fucking true. You can't make this shit up.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I was just kidding before when I said you were from reddit, but it's actually fucking true. You can't make this shit up. >he said while posting a pic of a google search proving anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
Not too bright are you, damaging your own case like that
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he said while posting a pic of a google search
Are you retarded?
this thread reeks of curry, epicjeets are working overtime. not surprising considering epic is having problems
huh
[...]
And how do you know this? It's like you're coming from a place that has extreme obsession about Epic games or something.
This is not just some random knowledge, it's an actual obsession. It's time to go back to /fuckepic
>G-GO BACK! SIR, ME Ganker YOU REDDIT SIR!
is that all you got, Rakshit?
>Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe ( Epic supports € for devs, but Steam only $), also there is only 12% charge on Epic vs Steam (30% charge + transfer fees + 5% royalties owed to epic for using Unreal Engine); Epic has no fees for Europe € and you are not required anymore to pay that 5% royalties for using Unreal Engine if you publish on their launcher and there is also Support A creator that encourages streamers, social media content creators etc to review your games, to draw attention and they'll get paid for that; I need everything to be simpler for start.
That understandable
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/2601620/discussions/0/3940146862837399196/ >Epig Spyware Store defender with this: >Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe
WHOOPSIES! Guess it wasn't so safe after all, huh?
>console exclusive buying
Having to buy a new console is different to downloading a small program to your PC. >b-but muh chinese spyware!
Not an argument
>unethical >greedy
Tim Sweeney is effectively paying you to delay the launch of your game. You'd be a goddamn fool to not take the deal.
look at something like Hades, no one holds the fact that it was EGS exclusive against it because it wasn't a good game at that time, it was only after it got a bunch of updates and then that version released on Steam that it was heralded as the king of action procedural generation
I wonder how many of those five are Epic employees. I have a buddy who's an engineer at Microsoft and hates Windows 11 as much as everyone else, but still uses it because he "has" to.
>game is out on one platform >publish on another platform but still have to wait a month >HURRR DURRRR STOP BOOTLICKING THE DEVS ARE FREE TO DO WAHTEVER YOU FUCKING DRONES
did anyone buy Ungate after reading this thread? its actually really fucking good - looks like the next amnesia. how the hell this didn't get more sales is beyond me.
>ugh.... only existing on one storefront without any contractual obligations = EXCLUSIVE
being intellectually dishonest will make you genuinely retarded
I just check the subreddit every time someone makes an anti-epic thread here, and there's always a post on the subreddit talking about the exact same thing.
I just check the subreddit every time someone makes an anti-epic thread here, and there's always a post on the subreddit talking about the exact same thing.
That would explain some of the disgusting garbage illustrations that were seen during the sales
Good to know they outsourced that instead of it coming from inside Valve
Bingo. You can argue if 30% is too high until the cows come home, but if you're using a company's infrastructure then it is reasonable to assume they should be entitled to *a* cut.
Their goal with all of this was to maximize their profits from selling Fortnite MTX
They looked at their numbers and started budgeting for how much they can spend on this lawsuit if it ends up increasing their revenue by 20-30% across all third party platforms
The thing that has made VaIvedrones seethe for over half a decade daily depsite "not being a problem!"
It's actually insane how much Tim mindbroke steamies
I dont know about you guys, but i left consoles because of the exclusivity and monthly 'pay twice to use my internet' bullshit and im damn well not gonna give EGS any money to bring that awful shit back. Dont care what you think about valve gog or itch but FUCK EPIC WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A RAKE.
>epicjeet completely broke and just starts claiming everyone else as streetshitters while reddit-spacing because he clearly forgot where he is
yep, been there saw that, looks someone's getting his private shitting street pass revoked
pretty damn boring
Also I searched for Eisberg on the subreddit just because I was curious, and guess what? There's posts there saying EXACTLY what you just told me.
I was just kidding before when I said you were from reddit, but it's actually fucking true. You can't make this shit up.
Feel free to prove me otherwise and show where else you can find information about "Eisberg"
Oh, I see. I didnt know that since I've never used reddit, you see.
Oh btw, you're looking up a reddit username. Why didnt you enter that in the google search? Hell, even "Eisberg Epic" would get you that result. Why are you being so disingenuous about something this pathetically easy to verify?
>do like you said >first result is from /fuckepic
Do you guys even know how a computer works? You've already exposed yourself as a /fuckepic shill. Nothing will change that now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>first result is from /fuckepic
And yet again you've proven that anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
It bears repeating, but you're not too bright, damaging your own case like that. Again.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And yet again you've proven that anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
How would you know about Eisberg if you didn't read the /fuckepic thread? Please tell me that
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
From
And of course, Epic's #1 shill Eisberg, is there to white knight. The sad part is he does it for free.
Same shit, google search. Im honestly amazed I need to explain how this works to a pajeet, how did you morons swarm the IT industry?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And where do you see the name "Eisberg" there and how would you know that he's some mod from some subreddit by that link?
And you need some new material other than screaming "PAJEET" and "GOOD MORRNING SIRS!"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Im beginning to think you're too dumb to use google properly which is honestly.impressive considering their current CEO is a pajeet >other than screaming "PAJEET" and "GOOD MORRNING SIRS!"
Feel free to quote my posts where I did that. Lol lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because that fucker was (and still is) EVERYWHERE years ago when the EGS launched.
You couldn't go anywhere without stumbling upon him. >frequent the Talos Principle/Croteam Steam boards - small community so you more or less know who is who >game goes free on EGS >guess who suddenly pops up >even the board trolls tell him to fuck off
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the only place that discuss and talk about him is the subreddit >the subreddit is the ONLY place you can know stuff like
This shill is also the main moderator of r/EpicGamesPC
he's going under Cord_Cutter_VR nickname there >"n-no the reason I know is because I was an active member using a dead forum so we all knew there haha."
You need to go back
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the only place that discuss and talk about him is the subreddit
and the other places he invades to push his shit like the Talos Principle/Croteam Steam boards
You seem really upset your little crusade isnt working
Wow, what the fuck do you think you're doing? You aren't supposed to investigate the nonsense you read here, you're supposed to blindly believe it and get angry
Bank employee here. Every time I see something related to ESG/"Sustainable" investments it always has the trend line going in the wrong direction.
It honestly isn't working and any investor who puts their money in it is putting their finances at risk.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Real big brain energy from this developer.
He missed the memo that it wasn't worth selling exclusive on Epic if Tim isn't personally paying you money upfront.
>goes to fucking Reddit to see comments made by the dev
Why are all EGS haters redditors?
And let me guess... if I look at /fuckepic I can see someone linking to this very some conversation?
>spend a lot time making an unique and interesting game >pay the biggest streamer to stream it and shill the game >have them stream in front of like 100k people in total >only like 100 copies sold
Your game is on Steam? No copies sold.
Weird how companies always start doing this when they start needing to placate shareholders that everything is totally fine.
They didn't need to do this for 6 year, but now they do.
My nephew plays fortnite on pc and he told that he and his friends didn't even know about the store till they liked one of the free games given out. I honestly think just can't get people to buy games on the epic games store.
Epic really failed on all fronts of business. It fucks devs cuz no one wants to buy off EGS, it fucks customers cuz exclusivity and questionable reputation, and it fucks investors cuz the moment they see the money blackhole that is the store they'll run. Tim better pray to every god for the continued success of fortnite.
>all epicjeets were moved towards fartshite spam as this thread is abandoned by the epicjeet screaming "SIR, ME Ganker, YOU REDDIT, EPIC GEME HATERS ARE REDDITS"
lmao
EGS is about promoting Unreal Engine usage of which Epic take 5% of every sale, not making a store you fucktard. The store was just a means to an end and it worked to increase UE usage.
Every sale of UE or UE-made game? Either way, seems very unprofitable long term, since people will be disincentivized from using the store and Epic paying devs to do so kind of cancels out the purpose.
Unless the point is to have people just use UE and jack off over it like Winrar does.
Borderlands 3 was a flop, but because they were handed a 100m payment to go onto the epic game store huge numbers of developers swapped to Unreal Engine. This was the goal all along.
>Steam doesn't scan my hard drive to see what stores and games I've got installed. Steam doesn't even collect any analytical data outside of things the current game you're playing, playtime, cheevos
lol
>steam has exclusives
well sure, valve's first party games would be silly to sell on EGS
you cant expect them NOT to make l4d and half life exclusive, can you?
>2 copies >215 hours >account sharing
I am by far not a mathematician but you are telling me your statistics says that 2 people account sharing manged to rack up 8.3 days of play time in 24 hours?
I mean just on the math there would need to be at least 9 copies playing the game for basically 24 hours straight to get to those numbers, so I guess the take away is that epic is either >lying about sales figures and pocketing the cash >cooking playtime numbers
>nooooooooooo I will not install the .exe made by chinks to play Alan Woke 2!!! Yes, I know that the ebil chinks funded and published the game, but still ! even though I really want to play it, I WILL NOT let my windows pc have TWO bideogame programs installed at the same time, and specially a program made by chinks! I fucking hate them! so... yes, i will pirate it instead
/thread
Lol that's stupid. I even buy games on the xbox store because of how easy it is to just play and share with my brothers. The issue with the epic game store is that nothing about it is better than it's competitors.
epicjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-egs thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
steamjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-steam thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
They literally have lost so many talking points they resorts to copying anti epic posts with steam(not valve) as if people don't notice how low quality it is, doesn't even deserve a (you)
steamjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-steam thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
steamjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-steam thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
>almost 450 replies in the steamie epig thread! >only 150 posters though 🙁 is gabe and timmy not paying you guys enough? >but! but! no U posts are fun!
>develop a game >add 1000 easy to get achievements with cool andor funny icons >get trading cards and point shop support with, again, cool andor funny stuff to collectbuy >various steam fucks with buy it
you're right and that's why in an utopian society I would never install steam or epic, but since I have friends who do, I do have steam and epic installed.
but I support you antisocial bro, keep up the good fight and never install any drm store *thumbs up*
lmao this is fucking hilarious, Ganker is such a safe space for epicdrones that they have shills babysitting threads to protect the echo chamber. praise Sweeney, Epic saved pc gaming
We already know EGS sales are abysmal. Aside from the apple trial numbers, you have devs saying the EGS portions of their sales account for less than 1 percent.
EGS funds are indirectly funded through taxpayer money funelled through investment firms
sales dont matter
That's ESG, not EGS dumbass
>Most intelligent conspiracy theorist
him confusing EGS with ESG aside, ESG is actually taxpayer funded because the governments pay subventions for various things.
here's the official netflix report about it
https://assets.ctfassets.net/4cd45et68cgf/ZqADnKYzRH6qMnbcNOdQW/458a4af511bb352954c91d95edd46c2c/Executive_Summary_Inclusion_in_Netflix_Series_and_Films_4.18.23__1_.pdf
https://downloads.ctfassets.net/4cd45et68cgf/7rnC6zK537cM8zAGrXA90E/3c654a2d0023a4dac26a20b2fff39855/Netflix_2022-ESG-Report-FINAL.pdf
That's not a conspiracy theory, it's fucking reality. If you deny it you're the schizo.
nigga this is epic games not the social thing
>he doesn't know about the Sweeney and Bidden Unreal session
That's ESG
EGS is funded by a billion zoomers playing Fortnite
Larry Fink wishes he could get that sort of action
fucking mindbroken
literal ape behaviour
EGS money is funneled through Tencent, but you are not wrong about ESG.
Get off your phone
Retard person with retard opinions making a retarded post. Kek
schizoid, meds!
Looks like the bots decided to spam this post for some reason, really got people riled up
Next thing people will say blackrock being in the same bed of the federal reserve is a conspiracy theory
man that is sad. from the steam page it looks like the sort of horror game that would get at least 200 reviews.
I get some Darkwood in FPS vibes from it, it doesn't look terrible, it would definitely get more people playing it on Steam 10000%
If I made a videogame and even one person bought it I would be the happiest man on Earth. Y'all need to be more humble.
That's nice that you'd be happy with $10 after taxes in exchange for hundreds or thousands of hours worth of effort.
There's people who literally release their games as FOSS, they literally expect a whooping amount of zero dollars in sales and they literally didn't care a bit that their game costed them thousands of hours of work, because they do that as a feat to themselves rather than a way of earning cash.
People really need to be more humble and with their feet on the ground, it's better to release something for free and build a resume for yourself than be seething and moaning about how you're entitled to other people's money and time.
I don't even attach my name to the newest projects I release
I build them to make games I want to play, not to construct some sort of portfolio
>I build them to make games I want to play, not to construct some sort of portfolio
I used to be like that but the issue is if I want to work on other people's project, I got to have some form of portfolio. And so I comprised by having a Newgrounds for public facing/portfolio work, and Vidii for shitposts
>People really need to be more humble and with their feet on the ground, it's better to release something for free and build a resume for yourself than be seething and moaning about how you're entitled to other people's money and time.
cuck mindset. FOSS is also a cancer for programmers, not only does it devalue them (reducing duplicate efforts has some merit though), but it encourages free labour to get your foot in the door
Nah this is a retarded way of thinking. If you make a good game then you deserve money. No one's effort and time should be in vain.
I played Ashes 2063 which is perhaps the best boomer shooter after Blood and is completely free. The author also made expansion and when people want to donate to him he refuses. Some people simply want a passion project and enjoy when it makes others happy. If you as a single dev start making a game because you want to make money, it's over. Sure, make the project with profitability in mind but you should be ruled by your own want to tell something that is deep within.
Your standards are on the same level as the pile of the dogshit on the ground.
homosexual.
>Y'all
kys
That is because you have no goals at all, so any smallest success is the greatest one you have ever had. Rather sad anon
you alright frogposter. I'm sort of the same way. the idea anyone could even spend time with anything I'm involved in would make me really happy. If I even have one viewer in a stream I'm satisfied and feel the need to keep going for that person.
You've never made anything and you won't.
You think that you'd be stoked by a single sale because it means you made somebodys whole life just that little bit better.. :')
and this is an attractive prospect for you because you have low self esteem.
Literally you would aspire to spend years working on something just to be worthy of one person to click a button in response, and somebody is to blame for turning you into this.
is someone really to blame? I just find motivation and happiness through being enough for people. Dunno if someone really did anything to me.
you would aspire to spend years working on something just to be worthy of one person to click a button in response
But I already am like that.
This is how square enix can sell 1 million copies of tomb raider and still be miserable
they aren't humble enough
what is their problem, They can have a game sell more than it's predecessor and it's still not good enough
That's because you picture a sale as something grand and personal, with the buyer caring deeply about what you made, rather than a tick of a digit it really is, with 50% chance said person is going to ever play your game and 10% chance he'll make it to the credits roll.
Cool. But what if you made that video game to pay for your rent and food?
But a dumb frogposter probably lives leaching off his mom, so that would never cross his mind.
If you're a solo dev and made a video game for money you are literally a complete fucking retard. Genuine pond scum tier brain activity
>people are too retarded to make games for money the right way
Youre so dumb you start a business without a side gig as backup?
That's the typical faildev MO
>But what if you made that video game to pay for your rent and food?
Then you're a fucking retard. Get a job. You shouldn't be making video games if you're financially destitute.
true and based reply
people only see the big games and have no idea that 95% of all games on steam have 0 sales
>Y'all
Post drivers license for a southern state or have a nice day
Y'all get really upset about people wanting a second person plural pronoun in a language that (bafflingly) doesn't have one by default.
so make a video game and sell it to your mom for $5, if that's all it takes to be the happiest man on earth then go for it man
>If I made a videogame
If you were making one your opinion would have some weight.
If a game i made, made me less then 1k I'd be stressed.
>spend 100's of hours laboring for something
>miss birthdays, spend weekends inside, all working on a project
>hundreds of hours and potentially thousands (tens of thousands?) of dollars invested later
>release the game
>one person buys it
>feel sad
>DUDE, YOU NEED TO BE MORE HUMBLE, THAT'S LIKE, REALLY HECKIN' EPIC
you clearly are a 12 year old homosexual that has never worked a day in his life and therefore doesn't know the value of hardwork. please, i am begging you to have a nice day
now you know how you parents feel about you lol. dilate
This is the easiest thing to say for those who never made anything and will never make anything.
They have no concept of investing time into things.
No, spending 3 years of your life on something that only 1 person enjoys is an objective waste of your life and the best you can take away from it is not to do something this stupid and unlikeable again
I dunno about you man but I make music that I upload for free. Sometimes I will spend a month working on just 1 song and I never expect a single person to pay a dime for the music. If I started working on games I would take a similar approach, although I definitely wouldn't release the shit on EGS of all things.
>spending 3 years of your life on something that only 1 person enjoys is an objective waste of your life
Everything is a waste of life anon. We are all just doing things that make us forget we are mortals. If your activity releases feel good chemicals and makes the voices in your head quiet then it's time well spent.
>such a sheltered cuck that didn't invest any of his time on developing skills and making something out of them he thinks we should all be defeatist cucks like him
Kys you waste of oxygen
Sounds like a projection anon. Pick up some weights to make the sad voice in your head go away.
It's your own projection. Also lifting weights will not help you out if you are such an aimless nihilistic cuck. lmao
Things that make us angry are revealing our shadows. Maybe you are afraid that your aims are pointless?
Are you 15? What kind of notion is that? I can easily get worked up over some retarded homosexual speaking some nonsensical bullshit. Not every rage inducing thing is a projection. Do i hate Afro-Americans because i am simply projecting about my own shortcomings? No, i hate them because they are annoying and self-entitled cunts.
>What kind of notion is that?
Jung.
lmao Imagine dictating your life based on what some philosopher cuck perceived his life a hundred years ago without any objection or learning about other perspectives. Maybe try thinking for yourself then maybe you will stop being a sad little wimp. This is no different than religious fundamentalism. This is proof that you don't need dogmatic religions to be a retarded homosexual.
BASED
lmao look at all those tranny devs youve triggered. I bet one of them is that lunacid tranny dev too lmao
>price tag
>1,000,000,000 pesus
>frog picture in the first posts
>tons of replies
>y'all
Yeah not gonna bother reading this thread.
>Y'all
go back
>went to college (uk college, 2yr sub-undergrad degrees) for game development after high school
>made a 2D fighting game for final project
>had 2 characters, each character had 2 different attacks and a unique mechanic
>was basically complete trash as a game, pretty sure one of the characters was bugged on p2 side etc.
>handed it in anyway
>found out later that two of my tutors spent an entire lunchtime playing it together
>got an A
feelsgoodman
based. you have to be either soulless or circumcised to disagree with this.
It's great to lower your expecations in such a competitive industry and all, but most people would be rightly disappointed to only get a single sale, or a single download, from something they worked so hard on.
If you think that makes someone not humble enough, I think you're lacking compassion.
Surely he meant 200 copies, right?
Why would you buy anything on EGS when they give you free games every week?
No, two copies.
https://twitter.com/RaveofRavendale/status/1459183866229538817
https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1555436238814924800
#GOEPIGGOBROKE
But Steam has games that doesn't even sell A SINGLE copy.
And I got this from a totally random search. There's probably endless amount of games that has not sold a copy on Steam.
Wait, so, only two people bought the game but one of them is sharing the game with others? Is that what's happening?
>Is that what's happening?
That's what Epic's staff claims.
What's more likely is, the playtime numbers are faked to make it look like there's more activity going on.
>inb4 why not fake the sales numbers too
Because more sales = more money Epic has to give to the dev.
the playtime is a lie
Yes, it's actually how EGS "cracks" work. They use a hidden account that owns the game and its played through that. It's how the first Denuvo crack also worked.
hope noone makes the mistake of buying this on steam. don't let greedy devs double dip, lmao.
I never support exclusivity.
Cmon Ganker we can save EGS if we all work together, the market doesnt have to be a monopoly
Fuck off. Exclusivity is anti customer. Death to EGS. Death to evil consoles.
30% fee is also anti customer and anti worker
Nope. Its fair and has led to great success. Theres always itch.io as well. You dont have to use steam to want EGS dead.
How? Games cost just as much on EGS so customers aren't affected and what workers are being harmed with the fee? Shouldn't Valve's workers get paid for keeping Steam up and running?
Yes, we should go back to physical sales where the cut was >60%
>30% fee is also anti customer and anti worker
lmao, square Enix's workers are salaried, they don't get a bonus because the fee is lower. All the extra cash is goes directly up to the top brass, and if the game sells poorly (it will) teams get shuffled around, disbanded, or fired.
>Fuck off. Exclusivity is anti customer.
Steam has 31k exclusive games...
Not by requirement you disingenuous piece of filth. Just because nobody else matters.
>Why would we need to sign on this lol...where else would you go that you benefit both of us.
Valve simply doesn't do exclusive deals. Its better like that
>Not by requirement you disingenuous piece of filth.
And why does that matter to me as a consumer? Exclusive is exclusive no matter what's the reason.
Youre an idiot and yes it matters. Sorry your online store sucks so much dick it gets ignored.
>yes it matters
Why? At the end of the day all that matters is that it's exklusive, and Steam has the most number of exclusive games by far
Because CHOICE. Valve doesn't force anything. EGS does.
Thats why the world chooses to ignore EGS, and will continue to do so.
Glory to the customer. Death to EGS.
Like I said, why does that matter to ME as a consumer?
Because you know exactly who to blame. Its Nintendo that wont sell on PC for example. If capcom releases on sony but not on xbox or PC know who makes that call.
Valve isnt forcing anything here. Its why people actually use steam, not just because thats the only store. Theres many stores but theyre scummy and deal in exclusivity so nobody wants them. You think valve has an unfair monopoly? No everyone else is just too fucking sleazy, too controlling.
EGS could have been great if it was just simply a store, but then the bullshit comes along...no thanks ill do my business in a straightforward manner thank you.
I don't care about any of that as a consumer, in the end exclusive is exclusive and Steam has over 30k exclusive games.
If you actually cared about stopping console bullshit and exclusive shit on PC gaming you should make daily threads shitting on Steam.
Stop insulting the customer! Thats your problem and epics problem. They fucking care or epic wouldn't be an abject failure dipshit.
The assumption that people are dumb and will suck up any shit you put out no matter how much you insult them for it is why Disney has hemorrhaged money for half a fucking decade now.
Stop treating your customer like garbage for fuck sake.
>valve should make their product worse so less developers want to exclusively use it
>If you actually cared about stopping console bullshit and exclusive shit on PC gaming you should make daily threads shitting on Steam.
Lmao. If you genuinely believe any of that tripe you're spewing, you'd ask for these devs to put their games on their own websites, Epic and GoG. After all, Steam isnt going to stop them from doing so. Tell the dev you'll buy it on EGS if he sells it there->he sells it there->you buy it there->no console exclusivity bullshit. Problem solved!
But you dont, so of course you wont.
The thing is EGS failed at even being a simple store
It was worse than what Shoppify offers you out of the box, so their only draw was curating what they sell, so that people wouldn't have to dig through trash like they have to on Steam allegedly.
Except EGS will unironically shill you NFT games now that are worse than anything you can find on Steam.
Valve wont stop that dev from selling his game on EGS. But EGS will stop the dev from selling his game on Steam. That's how.
your ass is bbc exclusive, maybe start updating the related wikipedia article
bait
>Steam doesn't have exclusive games
>well it does but
so tiresome
Valve can't force publishers to also sell on other websites.
>exclusivity bad! (but only when is done by the platforms that I don't personally like)
Don't pretend you're anti exclusivity, you're pro exclusivity with a different coat of paint.
No. This is 100 percent about exclusivity and shit business dealings. Ever heard of the orange box? Even valve themselves dont do exclusivity.
>Ganker: exclusivity bad
>sony: okay i’ll put ps exclusive games on pc then
>Ganker: ONE GAME I DON’T KNOW WHY
>Ganker is one person
>implying snoys dont deserve it after bragging aout exclusives nonstop during their goldface soijak WHIRRRposting
why are all steam games only sold on steam not on gog/itchio/egs then?
>this simple sentence kills the pedo incel steamie
Well valve doesnt have exclusivity requirements...but people still exclusively distribute and buy from them.
EGS does have exclusivity requirements...and nobody uses it.
Now connect those dots dumbass...
Nobody is stopping them bitch. Now tell me again why you think the customer is too stupid to understand this.
oh
>nobody is stopping them bitch
well then why are u mad when devs do the same "thing" when they make their game only on gog or itch io or egs?
nobody is stopping them from doing that either...
And nobody is stopping me from never buying their product for their nasty anti customer policies 🙂
why do steamies manifest such dogshit arguments only to end their pathetic little debates with "well I will still only buy from steam haha"
why don't you start with that instead?
The issue is 3rd party exclusivity deals. Only Epic does them which is why EGS gets so much hate and why people go out of their way to never use EGS on principle.
why would a monopoly engage with exclusivity deals in the first place?
I swear Ganker is filled with actual moronic 18year old babies first forum zoomers...
also
>steam launch, forced updates through steam, orange box, etc
why is the "monopoly" so much better for consumers than the competition? only EGS is engaging in anti-consumer practices here
>the "monopoly" was first on the market, had plenty of time to do anti consumer shit before facebook/social media became massively popular with the normans, reaps all the rewards by harvesting the new pc gaming gamers while ditching most of the old 90s pc gamers, now they get to have unhinged retards shilling for them for free (lol) everytime some sad little company attempts to compete with a day 1 competitor product
POG
maybe if timmy had put money into actually making EGS worth using instead of dumping all the money into exclusivity deals and shills like you then people wouldn't hate him? you're not going to win over consumers by trying to use raw force to strongarm them onto your platform
Thanks anon, another pic to add to my /fuckepic thread bingo
enjoy, homosexual
>maybe if you day one store had all the same features as """our""" 20 year old store """we""" mayhaps would not hate it
lol
EGS still lacks features steam had on day 1. The user experience clearly isn't a priority, but they were still eager enough to put spyware into it years before implementing a fucking shopping cart.
>He's still spamming this shit that has been debunked years and years ago
AIEEEEEE THAT PROGRAM IS DOING STUFF THAT LOOKS SCARY SAVE ME GABEN!!!!! LET ME USE STEAM THAT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!
>deboooked
no it isn't you fucking shill
>STEAM THAT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!
Steam doesn't scan my hard drive to see what stores and games I've got installed. Steam doesn't even collect any analytical data outside of things the current game you're playing, playtime, cheevos and an opt in hardware survey.
>https://store.steampowered.com/privacy_agreement/
Might as well enlighten anons. Boot up Epic and show us your task manager.
Another one to the bingo, thanks anon!
please post your bingo so I can have a nice, organized collage of all the gay shit epic does
>same stale "spyware" meme
>same "it's between a full year and still" meme
i now get what old boomers meant when they shit on me when I was 20...
>Agree to let Epic connect with Steam friends so you can play games together
>Epic scans your Steam friendslist so you can connect to your friends
NOOOOO STOP THIS!!!!!!!!
Reminder that you need to give Valve your fucking phone number to play their games
By their games, you mean just Counter Strike 2
and by need you mean can if you want to play with other people who did
imagine microsoft says they're gonna end the samsung monopoly on smartphones and they come out with a blackberry in 2023, people would rightly laugh them out (except for the few indian retards paid not to, looking at you anon)
>piss poor analogies
good one dood!
I think it's pretty good, an establised company says they're gonna revolutioinise something and release a product that's 15 years outdated, that''s the exact same scenario, sorry you lack the mental capacity for abstract thinking
lmfao even in their own material they admit that steam traffic is organic lmao
noone has had monopoly on selling videogames since the fucking 70s, go take your meds
>it's not a monopoly bros, just 4head make something as good lol
>also, *grabs your arm* *punches you with your own fist* why are you hitting yourself? lmao
you have no idea what a monoply is
Valve, GoG and itch arent forcing anyone to do shit is the difference.
Take your console wars shit elsewhere homosexual.
looking at steam's top sellers
>counter strike 2
valve's game so steam exclusive
>EA sports fc
also on EGS and the EA launcher
>Cyberpunk 2077
gog
>War thunder
has its own launcher
>foorball manager 2024
EGS
>RDR2
EGS, rockstar launcher
>anno 1800
EGS
>call of duty
windows store
>Baldur's gate 3
gog
>euro truck simulator 2
gog
and that's just top 10, my question to you is: why the fuck do you have to lie to make a point?
>cherry picked
coll schizo bro, but that's not my point *shrugs*
what's your point then?
Rather support GoG or even itch.io than EGS.
kek, dev already got found out by community
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2601620/discussions/0/3940146862837399196/
maybe next time he won't fuck with epig
>unethical
>greedy
Tim Sweeney is effectively paying you to delay the launch of your game. You'd be a goddamn fool to not take the deal.
If you dont care about the fans
If you're a well established developer, yes. If you're a new indie, taking that deal means your chances of getting an audience on Steam just got even slimmer.
>If you're a well established developer, yes.
I wanted to buy Remedy's Alan Wake 2 but they want me to pirate it instead.
Why the fuck would you play that trash in the first place? They'd need to pay me instead to install that shit.
I played two Remedy games, Quantum Break and Control, and I enjoyed both. AW2 looks like atmospheric narrative game I would enjoy. I have a good PC but I play mostly indies on it so it would be nice to play a movie game for a change.
Top 5 games
To be fair, ebin is the publisher in that case
I don't care and I am sure all 9 people who have the hardware and Epic launcher installed and want to play a narrative horror bought it. It's on Playstation and Xbox. I would buy it on Steam on GOG but again, Epic doesn't want my money, they want me to pirate their published product.
>You'd be a goddamn fool to not take the deal.
Tell that to Obshitian who destroyed the goodwill they had with their playerbase by selling out to EGS with The Outer Worlds and enraging all the people on Steam (i.e. the entirety of their playerbase).
Obsidian destroyed their goodwill with The Outer Worlds by making a shit game.
Obsidian didn't make that deal, nor did they benefit from it in any way. 2K/Private Division did. Obsidian's employees were still making updates to Outer Worlds' Steam page the morning the announcement came out. If Feargus Urquhart is to be believed, even he didn't know and only found out when it was in the news. I'm willing to give the Ferg-man some credit here because they never worked with PD ever again. Granted they got bought by Microsoft but that's another matter.
Tim Cain also said he learned about the Epic deal at the same time as all of us as well.
I'm pretty sure Hades was the only time this worked out in the devs favor.
Satisfactory too
pretty much all "known" Early Access Epic games, sequel games not counted
Epic doesn't do exclusivity deals with indies anymore though, hasn't for over a year. He most likely either bought into the "fight for the developers" bullshit and put his game on Epic first to contribute to the cause.
They DID. And it shall never be forgiven.
they still do. they don't pay upfront anymore
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/introducing-the-epic-first-run-program
Even more reason to hate EGS
>epic-first-run-program
All high quality games. Steam is doomed.
oh boy
i'm sorry guys but i have to switch
>indistinguishable from s&box gamemode catalog
I gues I'll have to choose the lesser of two stores.
BMWF kino spotted
indiananon please.
Hades 2?
they learned their lesson, it's going straight to steam
Why are VaIvedrones like this? It's actually a fucking cult behavior.
And why do people pretend that somehow shitty games on Steam sell thousands of copies, when even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
>Searching for posts with the image hash ‘3C/sWLNBxzHtV9HWg0EdrQ==’. 373 results found.
I hope you're at least getting paid
I know you are
Did you seriously crop this image just now? At least you're learning, shill.
don't be a drm cuck
Why is everyone on Ganker lurking in every indian subreddit
Because this board is nothing but shitskins trying to get a rise out of people by posting the worst fucking opinions known to mankind
Yeah, like defending esg.
Turns out Indians play video games too
Indians finally progressed beyond Facebook and are spreading throughout the English-speaking internet like a plague.
hello sir
>daily steamie v epig thread
GOOD MORNING EPIG SAAAARS !
GOOD MORNING STEAMIE SAAAARS !
GOOD MORNING AMERIMUTT SAAAARS !
Epic shills really like to ignore GoG and itch.io...
Of course, the existence of other stores goes against their narrative.
the narrative is that you steamies/epigs are fucking retarded and should kys blud fr fr ong
Good morning sir.
>retarded shill bluescreened after mentioning gog and itch.io
lol love to see it
>bluescreened !!!!! bluescreened !!!!
>what about gog.com and itch.io ?????
>they are absolute insuferable degenerates as well !!! why are you not posting shit about them as well ???????????????
m-a-z-e-d
>shill.exe stopped working entirely
>just screaming and posting incoherent greentexts
>all because of the mere mention of gog and itch.io
L-M-A-O
good morning sir.
sup pajeet. did you successfully reboot?
>NO U!
good morning sir!
>no answer.
Let's try this again. Hello, pajeet. did you successfully reboot?
Epic shills dont get it. This isnt a console or brand war. This is the open PC space! I will use my own hardware of my choosing and the OS of my choosing and i will damn well use tge stores of my choosing.
I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io. I will fucking pirate of need be. ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
I refuse the lack of choice that comes with EGS. Simple as. This shit isnt your fuckin console war.
In the PC space i can literally buy a steamdeck install a different OS and never touch valves store...because its my shit and i do what i please asshole. FUCK EPIC. FUCK EXCLUSIVITY. AND FUCK NOT HAVING A CHOICE. That shits for console fags too dumb or lazy to use a PC.
>I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io.
>ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
Based and same.
Reposting this as it sums it all up. its not about EGS vs valve its about hating EGS.
Epic shills dont get it. This isnt a console or brand war. This is the open PC space! I will use my own hardware of my choosing and the OS of my choosing and i will damn well use tge stores of my choosing.
I use Valve. I use GoG. I use itch.io. I will fucking pirate of need be. ONLY STORE I AVOID IS EPIC.
I refuse the lack of choice that comes with EGS. Simple as. This shit isnt your fuckin console war.
In the PC space i can literally buy a steamdeck install a different OS and never touch valves store...because its my shit and i do what i please asshole. FUCK EPIC. FUCK EXCLUSIVITY. AND FUCK NOT HAVING A CHOICE. That shits for console fags too dumb or lazy to use a PC.
>and the OS of my choosing
Not if you're using Steam
linux or windows asswipe. yes if youre using steam lol
Steam works on windows or linux. probably mac if youre gay.
Also way to ignore GoG and Itch.io again. Fuck EXCLUSIVITY AND ANTI CUSTOMER PRACTICES THAT ONLY EPIC DOES.
I use windows 7 because I'm not a Pajeet and won't be able to use Steam in 2 months.
Does EGS support Win7?
Yeah, no idea about the future but for now it does.
likely not much longer honestly. But shills are desperate for literally any straw they can grasp onto.
They always forget about GoG or itch.io and try to make it about valve...as if this entire thread is about anything but hating EGS
EGS also uses the same chrome embedded framework that steam uses so w7 will most likely be dropped soon as well.
feel free to use linux or mac then. Your choice 🙂
Also stop ignoring GoG and Itch.io Epic shill! Its not about loving valve its about hating epic.
It's really this simple. Epic exclusivity doesn't make me want to install their store, they actually turn me away from the store even more because I think oh it's the company that is paying developers to prison the games on their Fortnite launcher, fuck them. Any Epic exclusive is either ignored or pirated.
>nooooooooooooooooo da shills are ignoring the whataboutthis stores!
DO NOT REDEEM THE STEAM CODES SAAAAAAAAAARS !
it's their motto, because existence of other stores breaks their "Steam is a monopoly" narrative
been like that ever since epic chink store opened up
Itch launcher was added to epic during epic vs apple, which apple laughed that epic's giving children access to porn games
>even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
what?
>when even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
100 copies > 2 copies, Epig Chink Drone.
see
Shitty games on steam have always sold, hentai games probably make more than enough money on meme gift sales alone
see
How many times do I need to link this? Steam had games with ZERO copies sold.
Yeah and? It's got a lot of games and had an era of gib valve $100 get on steam no background check. Defend it all day if you want, just lurk this guys page till Dec 5th and see if he gets more sales on epic than steam.
What point are you actually trying to make by showing shit games not selling?
Valve's fanbase has been pretty cultlike for a while now. But in this case especially, they could just pirate the games but instead choose to waste money on digital licenses during sales designed around exploiting FOMO. So they invested a lot of money into this, causing this erratic behavior.
What AAA game failed to sell 1000 copies?
>why are people upset with exclusivity deal bullshit that they never had to deal with on PC before EGS
it's a mystery
>And why do people pretend that somehow shitty games on Steam sell thousands of copies, when even AAA games on Steam barely sell hundred of copies?
lol?
Thank you dude!
Saving this for my /fuckepic threads on Ganker bingo
>This shitty game with zero advertisement didn't sell on Epic store!
>but I got lots of sales on Steam because my game was on a humble bundle!
Yeah dude, it's Tim's fault his shitty game didn't sell.
>it's Tim's fault his shitty game didn't sell
It sure is. EGS is like a marketing blackhole. People didn't even know Darkest Dungeon 2 existed for fucking years because it was an EGS exclusive for the longest time.
>EGS is like a marketing blackhole
You mean like Steam?
Even if you stream your game to 100k people nobody will buy it if it's on Steam.
>People didn't even know Darkest Dungeon 2 existed for fucking years because it was an EGS exclusive for the longest time.
No, they didn't know about it because they did ZERO marketing while it was on EGS/early-access.
>steam is a monopoly!
>also nobody uses steam
I think there might be a flaw in your shilling script.
Yeah, 100k people got advertised to, and 100k people flexed their frontal cortex and decided the game is shit. Now that is a fuckup more devestating than Tim's existence.
>Now that is a fuckup more devestating than Tim's existence.
Why does this man make you seethe?
I sure hope you're getting paid for this, cuz even in normalfag space, EGS is eternally in the red, and everyone still uses steam and maybe gog.
>and everyone still uses steam
Riots launcher alone has more users than all of Steam.
lol has less active user than steam. plus the overlap is probably 1:1
Riot counts the same person having ever played 2 different games as 2 people.
And Valve counts all the million bots they have that farm items drops in their games.
But it sold. Just not on EGS.
Because it was on a humnle bundle, no other reason.
Let's Build a Zoo has never been in a Humble Bundle.
>Unethical
So uhh, are we all gonna ignore the greedy business decisions Valve has been all those years ago?
Yes? Okay
mentally unhinged valve drones. theyre on the level of nintendies these days.
2 copies
i usually only see that kind of seething spite out of communists
they took over the Linux community too
And of course, Epic's #1 shill Eisberg, is there to white knight. The sad part is he does it for free.
>Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe ( Epic supports € for devs, but Steam only $), also there is only 12% charge on Epic vs Steam (30% charge + transfer fees + 5% royalties owed to epic for using Unreal Engine); Epic has no fees for Europe € and you are not required anymore to pay that 5% royalties for using Unreal Engine if you publish on their launcher
Jesus Christ, the dev actually fell for the "12% cut is better" scam. I almost feel bad for him. Almost.
30% of something is better than 12% of... 2. lol.
>5% royalties to epic
Only if you make over 1 million. He is a very optimistic indie dev
First thing I expected when clicking the link, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
Is this some insider /fuckepic information I should know about, give me a QRD
you seem to be the expert on that, timmy
I mean you're clearly talking about known information you've gotten from some other place?
The guy is basically the king of Epic-shills and on pretty much EVERY Steam board for games that are somewhat related to the EGS, be it due to exlusivity deals or the game being free on it, in every EGS-related comment section on gaming sites, every EGS twitter discussion, every Epic Leddit sub, etc.
And he does it for like 4-5 years by now.
And how do you know this? It's like you're coming from a place that has extreme obsession about Epic games or something.
This is not just some random knowledge, it's an actual obsession. It's time to go back to /fuckepic
Also I searched for Eisberg on the subreddit just because I was curious, and guess what? There's posts there saying EXACTLY what you just told me.
I was just kidding before when I said you were from reddit, but it's actually fucking true. You can't make this shit up.
>I was just kidding before when I said you were from reddit, but it's actually fucking true. You can't make this shit up.
>he said while posting a pic of a google search proving anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
Not too bright are you, damaging your own case like that
>he said while posting a pic of a google search
Are you retarded?
This shill is also the main moderator of r/EpicGamesPC
he's going under Cord_Cutter_VR nickname there
So probably a paid shill...guess epic still has some Chinese cash to throw about.
this thread reeks of curry, epicjeets are working overtime. not surprising considering epic is having problems
huh
>G-GO BACK! SIR, ME Ganker YOU REDDIT SIR!
is that all you got, Rakshit?
just looked at this guys posts
he is just defending every single corporation
i just think he likes being a contrarian
>MUH 30%
They always forget the fact nobody uses EGS. Saving 18% on $0 of sales isn't an improvement!
>0% of zero meme
good one dood
True. It should be updated to 0% of 2.
you know it's dire when epic literally gives games away for free and people still won't touch EGS lmao
I would unironically rather pay $20 on Steam/GOG than $0 on EGS. They lost me the moment they started buying timed exclusives.
who's the people? are they there with you? do they all collectively decided not to get at least the one random game they're interested in?
(meds, I beg thee)
nobody likes the exclusivity shit, the only thing supporting epic is fortnite zoomers
I don't think that shitting on somebody who sold 2 copies of a game is a nice thing to do
It is if they're leftist, which most devs are by default.
>Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe ( Epic supports € for devs, but Steam only $), also there is only 12% charge on Epic vs Steam (30% charge + transfer fees + 5% royalties owed to epic for using Unreal Engine); Epic has no fees for Europe € and you are not required anymore to pay that 5% royalties for using Unreal Engine if you publish on their launcher and there is also Support A creator that encourages streamers, social media content creators etc to review your games, to draw attention and they'll get paid for that; I need everything to be simpler for start.
That understandable
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/2601620/discussions/0/3940146862837399196/
>Epig Spyware Store defender with this:
>Right now is easier and safer for me to release on Epic as I live in Europe
WHOOPSIES! Guess it wasn't so safe after all, huh?
>anticompetitive
but that's literally competition.
Steamies are lunatics.
Pcbros really think game stores are a democrats vs republicans situation.
>how dare he sell his games somewhere else, laugh at him
>one store is explicitly trying to inject console exclusive buying onto the PC platform
>console exclusive buying
Having to buy a new console is different to downloading a small program to your PC.
>b-but muh chinese spyware!
Not an argument
If EGS was any good maybe your words would have some weight.
I think going after a small indie dev like this is a bit harsh. You should direct the anger towards bigger devs like Square Enix and Remedy.
I think the whole thing is stupid, but I do like the Epic multiplayer framework though. It's easier to family share and play together with my brothers
Steam cultists are mentally fucking ill and in need to be put down like the sick animals they are
look at something like Hades, no one holds the fact that it was EGS exclusive against it because it wasn't a good game at that time, it was only after it got a bunch of updates and then that version released on Steam that it was heralded as the king of action procedural generation
>it was ONLY after some "updates" that the game became good
: > )
I have no issue with EGS exclusives being release on Steam later.
But the severe lack of sales just shows where the community and demand is at.
That conversation sounds like a typical Ganker anon, I dont care whether they right or wrong, as long as they attacking epic game store I liked it
marketing black hole
Only 5 people use the Epic Store version of Segas Gacha MMO
I wonder how many of those five are Epic employees. I have a buddy who's an engineer at Microsoft and hates Windows 11 as much as everyone else, but still uses it because he "has" to.
It took them 20 days to find out that, yes he did indeed only sell 2 copies. Did they personally contact the two buyers or something?
>obsessed steamie still seething about EGS that he has to look up a thread on their forums that's half a year old
This guy has Tim living in his head rent free.
>game is out on one platform
>publish on another platform but still have to wait a month
>HURRR DURRRR STOP BOOTLICKING THE DEVS ARE FREE TO DO WAHTEVER YOU FUCKING DRONES
did anyone buy Ungate after reading this thread? its actually really fucking good - looks like the next amnesia. how the hell this didn't get more sales is beyond me.
Nice try varvara
>how the hell this didn't get more sales is beyond me
EGS exclusivity tends to do that. You don't get two launches.
Amnesia fucking sucked, why would you make me not want to try your game?
I hate horror streamer bait games with no combat.
>ugh.... only existing on one storefront without any contractual obligations = EXCLUSIVE
being intellectually dishonest will make you genuinely retarded
Is this another raid from /fuckepic?
>/fuckepic talks about this random game nobody ever heard about
>suddenly threads about it here
You sure seem to know a lot about Reddit. How about you go back.
t. reddit raiding valve tranny
I just check the subreddit every time someone makes an anti-epic thread here, and there's always a post on the subreddit talking about the exact same thing.
good morning sir
>People found out Valve is working with actual pozzed pedos
>suddenly lots of /fuckepic threads here
hmmmm
That would explain some of the disgusting garbage illustrations that were seen during the sales
Good to know they outsourced that instead of it coming from inside Valve
Not my problem chang not steam no buy
Dont care. Not pro valve im anti epic. GoG and itch.io.
why do steamies take it so personally when a developer puts their game on another launcher?
DO NOT REDEEM
You need new material, at least you've learn how to crop images now
>look at steam page
>some wank horror walking sim
2 sales is too many
It's just going to happen all again, the troons in the industry do this shit for free
>analytics are lopsided because you had literally 2 sales
Kek
>
>Gets blocked on Apple/Google app stores
>Steam bad
What's the actual logic behind this reasoning?
>epic has proven a better model exists
>except they already admitted that their model is unsustainable and EGS is failing
What did Tim mean by this?
FYI the Google trial starts tomorrow. I've barely heard a word about it.
A better model exists for Epic because they don't want to pay a middleman.
And yet they want to take advantage of the middlemen's infrastructure, reach and marketing
Fascinating
Bingo. You can argue if 30% is too high until the cows come home, but if you're using a company's infrastructure then it is reasonable to assume they should be entitled to *a* cut.
>that removes the middleman
Isn't that what Epic is?
Their goal with all of this was to maximize their profits from selling Fortnite MTX
They looked at their numbers and started budgeting for how much they can spend on this lawsuit if it ends up increasing their revenue by 20-30% across all third party platforms
Yeah but you're not supposed to point that out. Those are guidelines for their shills.
what the fuck is EGS
exactly
The thing that has made VaIvedrones seethe for over half a decade daily depsite "not being a problem!"
It's actually insane how much Tim mindbroke steamies
there's a lot of seething in this thread but it's not not from "steamies"
.003 V-bucks have been deposited to your account
Epic Games Store
It stands for Erotic Gay Sex
wtf who wants their gay sex to be erotic??
>try to support EGS simply because competition is good
>they make me do a fucking captcha to buy a game
Dropped it and never looked back
stealth shill thread
do not engage past this point
Stop shilling your dog shit game, looks fucking awful
>mfw I see an exclusive game on EGS
Sirs I will not buy your product
I dont know about you guys, but i left consoles because of the exclusivity and monthly 'pay twice to use my internet' bullshit and im damn well not gonna give EGS any money to bring that awful shit back. Dont care what you think about valve gog or itch but FUCK EPIC WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A RAKE.
...EGS is free retard - there's no subscription fee...
But theyve got exclusivity and thats a step too fuckin far asshole.
>pajeets
i thought americans hated epic
because of china
Theres more reason to hate epic than china.
Dont they get paid for the exclusivity or it's only for big name studios!
This particular dev did it for free, epic never offered him anything
What a fucking idiot, he deserves what's happening.
>literally just 2 (two) sales
Come the fuck on. If i made a game i could atleast be sure that my brother and dad would buy it. Not even counting my friends and coworkers.
>noooooooooooooooo, that goes against the narrative !!!!!!!!!!!!
>ehm.... GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS !
something like 50% of steam games sell 0 copies
Given that literally tens of thousands of games release there every year, most being shovelware you never heard of, I wouldn't be surprised.
so you made it up?
all me btw
posted on iphone,
on mongolianbaskets.org
>game only releases on EGS
>sells like two copies
>game releases on Steam AND Epic
>Steam makes up 99% of all sales anyway
What's the point of your store again Timmy?
>epicjeet completely broke and just starts claiming everyone else as streetshitters while reddit-spacing because he clearly forgot where he is
yep, been there saw that, looks someone's getting his private shitting street pass revoked
pretty damn boring
You guys are straight from Reddit tho...
Feel free to prove me otherwise and show where else you can find information about "Eisberg"
As you've proven for the thread, first search result on google. Jesus christ you're a retard.
That was Reddit you inbreed retard
Oh, I see. I didnt know that since I've never used reddit, you see.
Oh btw, you're looking up a reddit username. Why didnt you enter that in the google search? Hell, even "Eisberg Epic" would get you that result. Why are you being so disingenuous about something this pathetically easy to verify?
>do like you said
>first result is from /fuckepic
Do you guys even know how a computer works? You've already exposed yourself as a /fuckepic shill. Nothing will change that now.
>first result is from /fuckepic
And yet again you've proven that anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
It bears repeating, but you're not too bright, damaging your own case like that. Again.
>And yet again you've proven that anybody could look this shit up for themselves in a second
How would you know about Eisberg if you didn't read the /fuckepic thread? Please tell me that
From
Same shit, google search. Im honestly amazed I need to explain how this works to a pajeet, how did you morons swarm the IT industry?
And where do you see the name "Eisberg" there and how would you know that he's some mod from some subreddit by that link?
And you need some new material other than screaming "PAJEET" and "GOOD MORRNING SIRS!"
Im beginning to think you're too dumb to use google properly which is honestly.impressive considering their current CEO is a pajeet
>other than screaming "PAJEET" and "GOOD MORRNING SIRS!"
Feel free to quote my posts where I did that. Lol lmao.
Because that fucker was (and still is) EVERYWHERE years ago when the EGS launched.
You couldn't go anywhere without stumbling upon him.
>frequent the Talos Principle/Croteam Steam boards - small community so you more or less know who is who
>game goes free on EGS
>guess who suddenly pops up
>even the board trolls tell him to fuck off
>the only place that discuss and talk about him is the subreddit
>the subreddit is the ONLY place you can know stuff like
he's going under Cord_Cutter_VR nickname there
>"n-no the reason I know is because I was an active member using a dead forum so we all knew there haha."
You need to go back
>the only place that discuss and talk about him is the subreddit
and the other places he invades to push his shit like the Talos Principle/Croteam Steam boards
You seem really upset your little crusade isnt working
>2 sales
Why are you guys pretending like it takes several years and 10,000 hours to make a video game
It's not THAT hard
>release games on Steam
>not even 1 person buys it
LMAO
I'd be more surprised if any of that cringe shit sold at any capacity.
I checked a random game on that list (Heal Hitler) and it has 188 reviews, i.e. it sold more than 0 copy you retard.
Wow, what the fuck do you think you're doing? You aren't supposed to investigate the nonsense you read here, you're supposed to blindly believe it and get angry
>heal hitler
Steam charts are not 100% accurate retard you cant use them as an exact metric
>But the 2 EGS sales are 100% accurate
>the API from Valve itself is not accurate
So Valve is lying about their numbers?
There's some truth to both. I hate when retards use total online peak as the full sales data. A game can have a humble peak and still sell a lot.
i kinda want to buy hitler loves/hates anime just to have them next to each other in my library
i think it'd be really funny
Mass repliers are the biggest naggers.
Nah mass repliers a heroes.
more like mass repliers an hero
>he said the n word!
my man
Someone got that picture of a game seething because only steam drones bought his shitty game?
I need it for my /fuckepic bingo threads on Ganker.
Bank employee here. Every time I see something related to ESG/"Sustainable" investments it always has the trend line going in the wrong direction.
It honestly isn't working and any investor who puts their money in it is putting their finances at risk.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Real big brain energy from this developer.
He missed the memo that it wasn't worth selling exclusive on Epic if Tim isn't personally paying you money upfront.
>goes to fucking Reddit to see comments made by the dev
Why are all EGS haters redditors?
And let me guess... if I look at /fuckepic I can see someone linking to this very some conversation?
Cry about it, Timmy
g-guys? How do we stop him?
How many PC players?
>spend a lot time making an unique and interesting game
>pay the biggest streamer to stream it and shill the game
>have them stream in front of like 100k people in total
>only like 100 copies sold
Your game is on Steam? No copies sold.
>roguelike
>sportsball
Fans of either genre hate the other.
>paying someone to show 100k people how shit your game is
thats just embarassing
from a glance this sounds like a shitty rogueLITE version of that winnie the pooh game (it also had upgrades you could buy)
>spend a lot time making an unique and interesting game
well it isnt. it's pixelshit
It's over...
Weird how companies always start doing this when they start needing to placate shareholders that everything is totally fine.
They didn't need to do this for 6 year, but now they do.
>Fortnite is more popular than ever
>Epic still had to lay off 1000 employees
lol
lmao
Fucking over the customer and hiring shills with 'the customer is stupid lol' talking points really does destroy your ability to run a business.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T FIRE USELESS MARKETING PEOPLE!
>YOU NEED TO HIRE SJW israeliteS LIKE VALVE!
>forgetting "Holocaust" museum in Fortnite
Is it honestly baffling that they can't wrangle .01% of fortnite's playerbase into actually using the store
I'm not sure children are even capable of using the store. Mum and dad just gets him fortnite and calls it a day.
~90% of fortnite players are on consoles and mobile so they don't give two shits about a PC store
My nephew plays fortnite on pc and he told that he and his friends didn't even know about the store till they liked one of the free games given out. I honestly think just can't get people to buy games on the epic games store.
The store has a visibility problem and people just seem to forget about it moving on to whatever is the latest fotm
4 years for a fucking slendyman clone.
Lol and lmao fuck this "indie dev"
Epic really failed on all fronts of business. It fucks devs cuz no one wants to buy off EGS, it fucks customers cuz exclusivity and questionable reputation, and it fucks investors cuz the moment they see the money blackhole that is the store they'll run. Tim better pray to every god for the continued success of fortnite.
Nothing lasts forever. Even fagnite will go away. And then the anti customer bullshit will die alongside EGS
>all epicjeets were moved towards fartshite spam as this thread is abandoned by the epicjeet screaming "SIR, ME Ganker, YOU REDDIT, EPIC GEME HATERS ARE REDDITS"
lmao
>steamie epig thread with 300+ replies
GOOD JOB ON REDEEMING THE CODES SAAAAAAAAAAARS !
>nooooooooooooooooo
>don't force to install another program on my windows pc!!!!!!!!!
there, /thread
>all me btw, thanks for all the posts, I will redeem them all on my leddit bingo post, and as always, good morning sirs!
EGS is about promoting Unreal Engine usage of which Epic take 5% of every sale, not making a store you fucktard. The store was just a means to an end and it worked to increase UE usage.
Epic doesn't make significant money from Unreal Engine.
>new cope has arrived
Internal financial statements are cope?
don't hold back steamie bro, can I have a link to that jpeg?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20696836-epic-apple-trial-epic-games-exhibit
oh unofficial documentation that might or might have been tampered with to farm drama on the internet?
classic
Every sale of UE or UE-made game? Either way, seems very unprofitable long term, since people will be disincentivized from using the store and Epic paying devs to do so kind of cancels out the purpose.
Unless the point is to have people just use UE and jack off over it like Winrar does.
Borderlands 3 was a flop, but because they were handed a 100m payment to go onto the epic game store huge numbers of developers swapped to Unreal Engine. This was the goal all along.
>Steam doesn't scan my hard drive to see what stores and games I've got installed. Steam doesn't even collect any analytical data outside of things the current game you're playing, playtime, cheevos
lol
>steam has exclusives
well sure, valve's first party games would be silly to sell on EGS
you cant expect them NOT to make l4d and half life exclusive, can you?
TL;DR Epic still sucks, just use Steam or pirate.
>almost 400 replies on the daily steamie epig thread
GOOD JOB SAAAAARS !!!!!!
im talking about hitler games anon
>2 copies
>215 hours
>account sharing
I am by far not a mathematician but you are telling me your statistics says that 2 people account sharing manged to rack up 8.3 days of play time in 24 hours?
I mean just on the math there would need to be at least 9 copies playing the game for basically 24 hours straight to get to those numbers, so I guess the take away is that epic is either
>lying about sales figures and pocketing the cash
>cooking playtime numbers
both are funny options
>just game dev bro
I wonder how much the VaIvedrones make spamming these threads.
15$ an hour
More than the indians, which is a shame cuz pajeets have it way harder trying to defend fucking Epic.
valve only hires a small amount of people who know theyre worth
egs sounds to much like esg. they need to rebrand
>nooooooooooo I will not install the .exe made by chinks to play Alan Woke 2!!! Yes, I know that the ebil chinks funded and published the game, but still ! even though I really want to play it, I WILL NOT let my windows pc have TWO bideogame programs installed at the same time, and specially a program made by chinks! I fucking hate them! so... yes, i will pirate it instead
/thread
literally LITERALLY what is wrong with that
Lol that's stupid. I even buy games on the xbox store because of how easy it is to just play and share with my brothers. The issue with the epic game store is that nothing about it is better than it's competitors.
ESG
EGS
>he thinks poojeets only manifest themselves as epic shills
AYYYYYYYY LEMAOOOOOO
muh ESL brother in god-on-a-stick, i beg ye to commit yourself to a sanitorium
epicjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-egs thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
It's fucking funny
They literally have lost so many talking points they resorts to copying anti epic posts with steam(not valve) as if people don't notice how low quality it is, doesn't even deserve a (you)
steamjeets are working overtime lately, if not for their endless coping and continuous "no u" replies, this anti-steam thread would've been dead long ago
but nope, they keep shitting the bed and the streets
big companies should really reconsider hiring streetshitters as their marketing force lmao
>literally "no u"
lmfao
>literally "no u"
lmfao
>goes on and proves that anon right
yeah, one more reason to not even making account for epic trash store lmao
>almost 450 replies in the steamie epig thread!
>only 150 posters though 🙁 is gabe and timmy not paying you guys enough?
>but! but! no U posts are fun!
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/OHIOJEET/
talk about mental illness
>all me btw
>the guy hackermanning the good morning sir schizo is the average "skin colour is my personality" racist schizo
you are both mentally ill...
hello resetera
>if you aren't racist and are instead a balanced human being, you might just be a regular on trannyera!
I know, I get that a lot...
>Game doesn't sell on Steam 🙂
>Game doesn't sell on Epic Store 🙁
what a pathetic thread, so much mental illness from perma online steam/epic shills
go touch some grass lol
>develop a game
>add 1000 easy to get achievements with cool andor funny icons
>get trading cards and point shop support with, again, cool andor funny stuff to collectbuy
>various steam fucks with buy it
will buy it*
it's that easy
>it's always the esl bros on Ganker that shill for steam
makes you wonder
>no one
>nobody
>never
>people
>0% of 0
love to see it
>the only people playing fortnite are zoomers
stale cope
>the only people playing fortnite are zoomers
yes? this isn't controversial
>only
yawn, stale cope
what adults are out there playing fortnite lmao
what adults are out there browsing Ganker lmao
18+ website, underage
>love to see it (epic in the red)
sure do
you're right and that's why in an utopian society I would never install steam or epic, but since I have friends who do, I do have steam and epic installed.
but I support you antisocial bro, keep up the good fight and never install any drm store *thumbs up*
lmao this is fucking hilarious, Ganker is such a safe space for epicdrones that they have shills babysitting threads to protect the echo chamber. praise Sweeney, Epic saved pc gaming
timmy lost, again.