Elden Ring destroyed Zelda

Elden Ring destroyed Zelda

Anyone with more than 10iq knows Nintendo delayed BOTW2 because they were gonna get bam a ham yum'd at the awards but for what? It's still gonna run at sub 30fps and have minimal changes. What can BOTW 2 learn from Elden Chad?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the problem isnt that nintendo wants to learn from elden ring, the issue is the Nintendo Switch itself is very limited in what it is capable of doing. I never expect anything amazing from nintendo because of the limitations of the switch to begin with.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I never expect anything amazing from nintendo because of the limitations of the switch to begin with.
      I feel like people keep saying the same thing about Wii, Wii U, Switch etc it's weird
      >the NES? Nothing good can come out of such a weak machine

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the NES? Nothing good can come out of such a weak machine

        during the release of the NES, there werent so many game devs so the hardware had its time to shine because of it. Right now, there are multiple consoles on the market, way too many indie and AA +devs to mention and a company (nintendo) that lost its ability to be creative and instead insists on porting old games from its glory day. Times are different then it was before.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They stopped giving a shit about cutting-edge hardware when they broke sales records with the Wii. Switch is easily the worst it's ever been, though. Emulate a single Switch game and you'll see how underpowered and crap the console is. Even its exclusives run at sub-30 FPS. It's baffling. I don't know which dinosaur exec has to bite the dust to get a current-gen system

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Atleast i can experience their games for free on pc with better frames and resolution than on the native console or handheld or whatever it is

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They stopped giving a shit about cutting-edge hardware when they broke sales records with the Wii
          The NES, SNES and N64 were all cheap hardware. Back then it was understood consoles should not cost $500 or more

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Then it would be more accurate to say they were disappointed by the performance of their only reasonably powered console.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >performance of their only reasonably powered console
              Which was?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The GameCube.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The gc was a mid tier console anon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It was decently powered compared to the competition.

                You are right, a zone filled with bird people where nothing happens but a dressing for 10 unvoiced lore dispenser npcs is so much better than an combat zone in my action game

                >action game
                Too bad it's not a good one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Was it? I was under the impression that it had the best rasterization of all the consoles that gen. I could be wrong. The GC definitely seems like the only time in the 3d era where Nintendo tried to have a console where the best looking versions of multiplats were on their system.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It was faster than the PS2 on average, but it also came out two years later. Considering when it launched, it was pretty weak.
                But all consoles (except the original Xbox) were made to be weak and cheap before the PS360 generation, that's when they went all-in on muh teraflops.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Back then it was understood consoles should not cost $500 or more
            Except the PS1 cost more than the PS5 and the NES cost $500 when you adjust for inflation, moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Runs Doom Eternal
      Switch is fine. As someone with a PC I can't even think of actually taxing games that are just being gimped by bad programming, unreal engine, or dated "realistic" graphics.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >muh doot
        The game runs in 360p 15fps. Lmfao moron

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Woah, i will now throw out my high end PC and buy a switcheroo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, Nintendo should learn to stop selling cheap hardware at full price.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    More like why didn't Elden Ring learn from BotW, how the frick does the googoogaga nintendie baby game somehow have a harsher world than Elden Ring? In BotW you had shit like cold, heat, rain, thunder etc that made the world feel more alive.

    You think Elden Ring would jump at this shit since From are the "unforgiving" devs. Nope, world is extremely static and unreactive, stuff like time of day barely matters at all.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nope, world is extremely static and unreactive,
      Based, if I wanted a kiddies sandbox I would redownload Just Cause 2, a game from 2011 that mogs BoTW everywhich way

      Stay seething that Elden Ring turned BoTW 2 in literal vapoware

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Stay seething that Elden Ring turned BoTW 2 in literal vapoware

        Very unlikely to have anything to do with it though. If anything, it's the success of Switch that delays its own eventual successor, thus delaying a predictable cross-platform release.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >oh the weather is different here
      >lemme stop playing the game and go into the menu to change clothes and fully negate the weather
      Rivetting.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >lemme stop playing the game and go into the menu to change clothes and fully negate the weather
        You hacking the game to have all outfits at the beginning is not an argument.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ywnbaw

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You lost.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            About time the daily botw seethe thread was made

            You won.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You lost.

              Stop.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ywnbaw

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The only time weather is any concern or well designed is on the plateau. Beyond that it is nothing but a nuisance. Just like hunger and thirst are annoying mechanics, being forced to pause the game and switch around your gear is garbage, poorly thought out design. It's like nintendo didn't even playtest anything past the plateau, just let the ideas that worked there stretch way to thin and left to rot.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You say it's bad design but can't actually explain why. After all just admit every good game with environmental effects like that expect you to carry some kind of item or armor in the same fashion but it's only bad when it's done in zelda?
            How does that make sense?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >You say it's bad design but can't actually explain why
              That post literally explains why. Nobody likes being forced to pause the game to do something tedious they wouldn't otherwise do and botw is full of that shit all of the time often in the middle of combat, not just with weather.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody likes adapting to a dynamic world
                I do.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but it's not adapting to take 5 seconds and switch your armor. It would only be an interesting mechanic if it actually was an obstacle that impeded you and the game forced you to work your away around it. Say for example you could only carry 1 armor set at a time, so you would actually be fricked if you were wearing it and it suddenly started storming, and you would have to quickly find shelter or discard your armor and come back for it after the lightning.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not adapting to take 5 seconds and switch your armor.

                What armor? What if you don't have armor?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That would just be tedious.

                We want games not real life. Go outside if you want that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Then you can come up with a non-tedious example, i'm not a game dev.

                >it's not adapting to take 5 seconds and switch your armor.

                What armor? What if you don't have armor?

                There is no point in BOTW aside from the beginning in which you don't have armor

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no point in BOTW aside from the beginning in which you don't have armor

                You are never once given armor to cope with environmental climate. These either have to bought or earned through sidequests.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >switching equipment based on the situation isn't adapting
                It literally is

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It would only be an interesting mechanic if it actually was an obstacle that impeded you and the game forced you to work your away around it
                Which it is on the plateau when it's presented as an actual obstacle. And then the rest of the game happens and it's like they hadn't even played the damn thing or bothered doing anything more than the bare minimum of sprinkling copy pasted shrines, seeds, and bokoblins over the world. The plateau deserves all the praise some people heap onto botw, it's just a shame 95% of the game is a regression from that and constant downhill slide into disappointment. The only people who like it beyond that point merely want little more than a walking sim.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Which it is on the plateau when it's presented as an actual obstacle.

                Its presentes throughout the entire game you moron. Did you just march into the desert and have a good time? Did you just climb all the way to the summit of Mount Lanayru on a single stamina wheel and one layer of clothing? Frick off lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, because by the time I did that I already had clothes for it. There was no obstacle there, zero thought at all, just something I had to pause and swap my gear around for.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >because by the time I got to the desert already had clothes for it.

                HOW? You can only get clothes for the desert IN the fricking desert

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >That post literally explains why.
                The post you replied to also explained why it didn't make sense since every game with hazards does that and it's never been an issue before.
                >often in the middle of combat
                There's never a point in any of these games where you have to do it mid combat, quit while you're ahead anon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lol frick off moron. In BotW when the hears the distant rumble of thunder they actually feel FEAR. They will stop what they are doing and react to the changing world around them, perhaps even use it their advantage.

                Imagine my joy when I saw thunderstorms in Elden Ring and my disappointment when I realised it was just a pretty affect which had no impact on me or the gameplay.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >expect you to carry some kind of item or armor
              This may be a fun game mechanic if you have a limited amount of inventory slots, so you gotta prepare beforehand. If your inventory is unlimited, it serves no purpose other than being mildly annoying. And roleplaying, I guess.
              >but it's only bad when it's done in zelda?
              It's bad in almost every game. At least in Zelda you can counter it in multiple ways, with food or gear. So there's that at least.
              But it would be much more interesting if harsh weather was just a minor debuff you can't counter it at all, you have to deal with it as an additional challenge. If you can negate it completely by doing something trivial, what's even the point?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the babby cold in the plateau is the only good weather effect
            Shut the frick up, the coldest part of the plateau isn’t even comparable to the coldest mountain peaks in the game.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This is just the stuff of brainlets.

            What's nonsense is games that have a bunch of equipment and make it so you only need one set.

            This is exactly what Minecraft has done for their armors and it's a good thing. There shouldn't be an armor you just wear forever. That is bad game design.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks it’s just a matter of changing clothes
        >he doesn’t use a fire weapon to keep him warm
        Fricking casuals, you even melt ice by standing near it with a fire weapon equipped.
        Also, you don’t get warm clothes right away.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I would like to see them navigate through the lost forest with no help from sites and get the master sword.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Lost Woods isn't difficult to navigate, at all. If anything having an actually dense forest to wander around in would've been way better than what was essentially a repeat of OoT's Haunted Wasteland

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They did learn from BoTW though, as it inspired Elden Ring's open world to begin with, and they used some of the mechanics in a similar way. The both games are way too diferent anyway.
      I only hope they get better combat, more enemy variety and flesh out the world a little bitter, but this is not exclusive to Elden Ring.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I only hope they get better combat
        The combat is BotW's worst aspect. When you get through the entire early game by spamming y you realise it just isn't fit for purpose. Flurry rush is shit too both as a concept and its implementation is rubbish technically

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Elden ring was being made long before botw came out. It took nothing from botw and it shows. It's blatantly just dark souls in an open world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >They did learn from BoTW though, as it inspired Elden Ring's open world to begin with
        Name 1 thing that BoTW invented and Elden Ring used

        I swear you homosexuals walk outside, see grass and say to yourselves "woah, getting major bOTW vibes right now"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          But anon, botw invented grass and hills.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Name 1 thing that BoTW invented and Elden Ring used
          They won't be able to, or if they do it will be something From was already doing like "no quest markers"

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > "no quest markers"
            Morrowind, Gothic.

            From literal decades ago. BoTW also has quest markers

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I wasn't saying From invented those either

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      stop saying the quite part out loud.
      I hate both franchises, but can appreciate how dynamic and fundamentally good the gameplay of BOTW
      Elden Rolls trannies BTFO'd

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >believes breath of the wilds environment is something special.
      Kek

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Elden Ring had a crafting system that was far more in depth than Breath of the Wild, and no one used it because the crafting system in both games was gay and moronic and not fun at all, but in Zelda you had to use it to progress.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Literally nothing. There are things BotW 2 should improve upon over the first, but none of those things are lessons to be learned from a game Tanimura was codirecting.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why would learn from an inferior game?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Games "journalists" need to be purged
    Imagine spending years in school and this is the article you have to write the rest of your life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      good thing these parasites are irrelevant when it comes to japanese games

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nah they delayed BOTW2 because they want to sell it with the next console alongside the switch like they did with TP and BOTW. Mark my words, they'll announce a revision/new console for sometime next year soon and this will happen.

    I mean yeah they'll no doubt use the extra time of development to try and "outdo" Eldin Ring, because I highly doubt in its state back pre-covid it did. I doubt it will though unless they just say screw it and completely rebuild the game, leaving any trailers we saw prior unnecessary because it's a different game now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is the logical reason.

      Switch was unveiled January 2017, released March 2017.

      I imagine Switch 2 will be revealed January 2023 and Switch 2 and BOTW2 to release the same day March 2023.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We will not see a Switch 2 release before 2024.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They already said they aren't releasing a new console this financial year. It will be November 2023 at the earliest

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was revealed on October 2016, morono.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Technically if you followed investor meetings it was "revealed" much earlier.

          The same meetings that saw third pillar moronation people got on with later destroyed where they said it was their future despite later, like the GBA, saying Wii U and 3DS weren't being replaced by it (and then literally ending Wii U manufacturing within months).

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >The same meetings that saw third pillar moronation people got on with later destroyed where they said it was their future despite later, like the GBA, saying Wii U and 3DS weren't being replaced by it (and then literally ending Wii U manufacturing within months).
            You're getting a little confused there anon.
            For starters the whole third pillar thing did happen with the GBA getting games for a few years after the release of the DS and even a new revision until it became a worthless venture since people weren't buying GBA games because of the DS.
            With the Wii U the switch was most definitely a confirmed successor to it from the start, no one said otherwise. In fact the wii u was discontinued two months BEFORE the Switch came out.
            As for the 3ds it was much the same as the GBA, it continued getting games and a new revision until it simply stopped selling and no one wanted to support it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >they delayed BOTW2 because they want to sell it with the next console alongside the switch
      We're still a few years off from the next system given their plans and the state of the world. In reality it was most likely delayed because this year was a mess of releases as you can see by last month where four games released on the switch in the span of a week

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    zelda youtubers are so desperate for content lmao

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >zelda youtuber
      >check channel
      >monster hunter shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        gotta go where the money is

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          At what cost?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            everything

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why should he not monster hunter stuff?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Anything mh related is full of schizos dont mind em

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >zelda youtubers so desperate for content lmao
      Seems they're just grabbing at straws so go snoy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Happy Mask Salesmen is Majora himself though not a Hyrulian.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is why Vortexx is still the best Zelda youtuber, even years after dying

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ranking EVERY 3D Zelda Dungeon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why do people love the ancient cistern that much?
        You basically circle the whole dungeon around while the smug buddha watching down on you the entire time. And the whip isn't that satisfying to use.
        It's not a bad dungeon but I've never got why people always praise it so damn much. Is it simply because of the boss?

        I'd probably place it in B or maybe even C.
        Also who the frick ranked Inside the Moon and Inside Jabu-Jabu as D? Frick this tierlist.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do people love the ancient cistern that much?
          Kino theming, fun mini-boss and a fun main boss

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is that video?
    1) More Mystery, "grand-scale mystery"
    2) Longer, branching Questlines
    3) World Changing Events/Reshape the World
    4) Boss Variety
    5) Legacy Dungeon (he thinks Elden Ring dungeons are like Ocarina of Time dungeons kek)
    6) Multiplayer options (invasion zones)
    I feel like he played a completely different Elden Ring?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Legacy Dungeon
      Why do people keep saying "legacy" dungeon? I'd never heard anyone say that before Elden Ring came out

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's the official term, midwit.
        https://www.eurogamer.net/elden-ring

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Elden Ring doesn't even do the first three and is pretty shit at #4 Boss variety compared to other From Software games (Still much higher variety than BOTW though).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >pretty shit at #4 Boss variety
        1. Mohg, Lord of Blood
        2. Radabeast
        3. Radahn
        4. Maliketh
        5. Placidusax
        6. Hoarah Loux
        7. Morgott
        8. Malenia
        9. Rykard
        10. Godrick
        11. Astel
        12. Rennala
        13. Margit
        14. Fortissax
        15. Alecto
        16. Lansseax
        17. Death Rite Bird
        18. Black Blade Kindred
        19. Sword Crucible Knight
        20. Regal Ancestor Spirit
        21. Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella
        22. Fire Giant
        23. Fully Grown Fallen Star Beast
        24. Commander Niall
        25. Godskin Apostle
        26. Elemer of the Briar
        27. Godskin Noble
        28. Magma Wyrm Makar
        29. Misbegotten Crusader
        30. Draconic Tree Sentinel
        31. Loretta, Knight of the Haligtree
        32. Crucible Knight Siluria
        33. Red Wolf of Radagon
        34. Ulcerated Tree Spirit
        35. Tree Sentinel
        36. Omenkiller
        37. Vyke, Knight of the Round Table
        38. Putrid Grave Warden Duellist
        39. Sir Gideon Ofnir
        40. Night's Cavalry
        41. Erdtree Avatar
        42. Flying Dragon Agheel
        43. Wormface
        44. Adan, Thief of Fire
        45. Fell Twins
        46. Tibia Mariner
        47. Grafted Scion
        48. Cemetery Shade

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I hope we get a boss like Godfrey in BotW2

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You know what, you are actually right. I should have specified boss quality not variety.
          Elden Ring has enough unique bosses, but there are only like 5 I'd consider good (Malenia, Hoarah Loux, Morgott, Mohg, Maliketh).

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think Nintendo is just focusing on making BotW2 far better than the first. With the fact that they're reusing so much from the first game, I think Nintendo knows they have to make this worth the $60 pricetag. Also wouldn't surprise me if they added even more shit to play around with the physics.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Reusing Hyrule is a bait and switch.

      They're 100% going to make a darkworld or some other realm. 6 years to copy and paste the same overworld? No chance. There's something afoot.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The overworld is only going to be there conceptually. Everything the player traverses with be above or below it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I think the entire BOTW overworld will still be explorable, it'll just be changed quite drastically by the plot.

          We know that entire land masses are rising into the sky (And there is shit under Hyrule Castle at least), and based on Link's look there is probably another time skip between Ganondorf's revival and the games events. Those craters are going to be filled in with new shit.

          I do think the change might be gradual though. So you start with basically BOTW Hyrule and a few raised islands (Basically as the last trailer showed), and by the end of the game the world is completely unrecognizable from the original. The game might sort of act as a "why does Hyrule change so much from game to game" theme.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That might be cool.
            Though I still think it's unlikely they would served players basically the same world layout at the outset.
            If most was intact at the start of the game, I doubt you'd be allowed to actually travel there anyway.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BotW2 is a big secret.
    We know they're reusing the overworld and that they have new powers but the game isn't out yet we don't even know its title. It's clear that there is something enormous happening behind the curtains and that it will be unlike anything.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      pass me some of that copium bro

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Elden Ring destroyed Zelda

    Nah.

    But of course the next game can learn from ER.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any place to get a botw ROM for wiiu? Been searching for a while but can't find anything.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This schizo Snonsense needs an "I don't think of you at all." edit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Two cakes.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring couldn't even top the original BotW.

    BotW2's only competition is BotW.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing to learn from Elden Ring that couldn't have been learned 10 years ago from Dark Souls.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lesson 1 dont make shitty bosses and reuse them 20 times

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >GAME JOURNOS BAD
    but they gave botw goty
    >UHHHH GAME JOURNOS GOOD
    oh ok, btw they gave elden ring great scores
    >UHHHHHHHHHHHH GAME JOURNOS BAD

    make up ur fricking mind tendies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Even if you take away the "journo" review. The overwhelming outpouring of acclaim for BotW from every corner of the industry is undeniable.

      From Elden Ring, most its peers in the industry were baffled by its journo acclaim and shat on its game design.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What about Elden Ring's game design?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >What about Elden Ring's game design?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You think anyone gives a shit what some homosexual from naughty dog has to say?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Noo why didnt they put phone game UI in their consolero game?
            Pathetic

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring traversal methods
    >walking/running
    >jumping
    >magic horse (faster running)
    BotW traversal methods
    >walking/running
    >jumping
    >horses (also other mounts)
    >swimming
    >climbing
    >sailing
    >gliding
    >shield surfing
    >launching yourself from a makeshift catapult
    Who needs to learn from who now? I hate both games by the way, but BotW was better in most respects. Also someone who actually enjoyed the game can probably add more to this list, I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.
    And yes, this is fricking important when both games are bland and empty open worlds where 50% of your time spent playing (if not more) is traveling from point A to point B.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >land and empty open worlds where 50% of your time spent playing (if not more) is traveling from point A to point B.
      t. never played elden ring

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >where 50% of your time spent playing (if not more) is traveling from point A to point B.

        Yeah, except the only time you relly spend travelling in BotW is when you don't know what your point B is.

        Elden ring trannies are pathetic cucks

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t. never played elden ring
        If only. That's 100 hours of my life I'll never get back.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          t. never played an open world game in xer life
          i bet you'd also say there's nothing to do in morrowwind either

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Morrowind is superior to your Elden Ring trash, fromsoft cultist

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Are you seriously comparing Morrowind to Elden Ring? A game with towns, actual quests, an economy, more than a dozen some odd NPCs and who have more than 3 lines of dialogue?
            lol
            lmao
            name one thing you do in Elden Ring beyond press forward on your control stick until you run into one of the torpid braindead enemies and proceed to spam the roll button

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >where 50% of your time spent playing (if not more) is traveling from point A to point B.

      Yeah, except the only time you relly spend travelling in BotW is when you don't know what your point B is.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      All that would make ER worse, the more grounded traversal fits the setting and games design. Ass creed has those tho, it doesnt always make a game better, only if it is fitting to the game

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >All that would make ER worse
        Every time I think Fromdrones can't steep any lower in stupidity, they continue to surprise me.
        Fricking Christ.
        Also the point isn't "why doesn't bing have all these exact same traversal options" it's "why the frick are the traversal options so limited and boring".
        >Ass creed has those tho, it doesnt always make a game better
        No, it definitely does. Imagine how bad the game would be without them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes because i want stupid emty fields where i can glide and unnecesary climbing obstacles where i have to wait 30 seconds on a ledge for stamina to recover so i can climb some more, so riveting gameplay. No i prefer it the way ER does it, ad if you unironically think that modern asscreed has good traversal, then your oppinion can be disgarded as trash

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes because i want stupid emty fields where i can glide and unnecesary climbing obstacles where i have to wait 30 seconds on a ledge for stamina to recover so i can climb some more, so riveting gameplay
            Are you illiterate?
            Read this over and over until it seeps through your thick inbred skull:
            Also the point isn't "why doesn't bing have all these exact same traversal options" it's "why the frick are the traversal options so limited and boring".
            >ad if you unironically think that modern asscreed has good traversal, then your oppinion can be disgarded as trash
            I didn't say that. You're the one who brought it up, dipshit. I just said that the game would be even worse without them.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You get it in your childlike tendie skull that those gimmicky traversal options are only necessary in an copy pasted empty fields

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I already told you I hate both games.
                > those gimmicky traversal options are only necessary in an copy pasted empty fields
                So incredibly necessary in Elden Ring, got it.

                Now explain to me why fricking Sekiro has better and more varied traversal options than ER.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Now that i agree with that sekiro has great traversal options, better than anything in zelda or ER, but be real here, zelda has bunch of empty fields and unnecesary mountains just for that gimmick traversal. I fricking hate that half the game is climbing and stamina management just to get to somewhere, its absolute trash. Just have a string dart or smth like that and it would improve the game 100%

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >sekiro has great traversal options, better than anything in zelda
                It's not even better than Ninja Gaiden Black from 1889 or whatever year it came out

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                frick you and your dumbass roll simulator game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick you and your dumbass climb slipping stamina gauge watching just to get from point a to point b, air flipping gay elf simulator that has only influenced shitty coomer gatchas

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's why ER needed them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a flying frick about gliding or shield surfing? BotW needs all that shit because at its core it's a physics-based puzzle game where you occasionally have to beat a group of sandbagging enemies to death with a stick that breaks halfway through the encounter. You're telling me BotW is a superior game because I can jump on my shield and surf (which also eats durability by the way) and do a sick kickflip on my way to the next bloated, uninteresting enemy mob? Get real.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Who gives a flying frick about the most used means of travel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >which also eats durability by the way
        Doesn't affect durability on soft surfaces which is most of the game.
        Also you've described every single souls game in that they're all about beating a group of enemies not to mention it has incredibly simple combat and nothing else beyond that.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lmao deluded homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Come on. You have to realize that a very large portion of those lower user reviews are seething casuals that couldn't beat Godrick. There are things that need to be improved upon, but Elden Ring beats BoTW hand over fist in nearly every category of its genre.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Industrygay here. E3's primary function is for publishers and developers to meet behind closed doors and pitch games, have meetings, and swap business cards. The public facing shit is just a bonus opportunity to advertise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I agree, they stopped doing them after Miyamoto died. Most we had was Kozumi doing some weird magic tricks when Switch was being shown, I don't think besides that any Direct had any useless crap.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's true, Europe does tend to carry their ass regardless. Though I have to wonder, how the hell did the ps3 do as disastrously as it did with that in mind? Was the Euro push a recent thing?
        Also
        >they stopped doing them after Miyamoto died
        You mean Iwata.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mostly these companies will drop E3 because they're competing with themselves in same event showing off their big guns whatever they have. With own personal broadcasts or events like State of Play or Direct they've made sure they got more spotlight for themselves during the arranged time when they really want to push their products.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The ps3 was sustained by Europe. It would have been an xbox one tier flop if Europe didn't save it. It's the best selling console of 7th gen in numerous countries like Germany for example. Meanwhile the world over especially Asia and America the best selling console was the Wii.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              i mean he's kinda right. E3 used to be a huge deal for the tech world until video games stole the spotlight and turned it into a glorified ad stream. And even today with the state gaming being what it is, E3's platform on the whole is on the decline. Why spend hours watching long boring streams just to _maybe_ see something you have been hoping for (and getting heartbroken about) or the chance that something new might catch your eye you haven't heard of yet when you can just wait for the whole event to end and read/listen to all the highlights when they're inevitably published on any and every news source available.

              But at the same time the _only_ reason this is being said in the first place is to serve as a glorified excuse for Sony to stay out of the spotlight.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The world has changed
                >But E3 hasn't changed with it
                Yes it has, E3 is just as soulless and corporate as the rest of the videogame industry is now. It just takes everything that sucks about modern games and cranks it up to 11 to make a horrible macabre song and dance out of it.

                Here is E3 back when it used to have SOUL and was just developers showing off actual in-game footage of in-development titles while talking about exciting new features.

                ?list=PL6uoO3csitWO5stcZngaGm0fCXOBiiBgh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's true, Europe does tend to carry their ass regardless. Though I have to wonder, how the hell did the ps3 do as disastrously as it did with that in mind? Was the Euro push a recent thing?
        Also
        >they stopped doing them after Miyamoto died
        You mean Iwata.

        What the frick are you two even talking about?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    To remove weapon durability, and have more than 3 weapons instead

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I tried BotW at 60fps. It's more enjoyable at 30, 100%. Still better to emulate than play on Switch due to graphics upgrades and cheats though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What a weird post.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Uh thanks?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can bet 10 years from now when the new tendie console capable of running Elden Ring comes out they will suck its wiener at full 60$ price, just like with skyrim and dark souls now

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just like with skyrim and dark souls now
      Except those sell quite poorly on Switch and Nintendo players barely ever talk about them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because anyone who isnt a hardcore tendie dont bother with a worse version of those games

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly. So whenever Elden Ring arrives on Switch's successor, don't expect that many to give a shit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Tendies always are wetting their pants when any 10year old 3rd party game hits their crap box

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Except that's demonstrably false.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother, his kind flips the narrative when necessary.
                One day it'll be
                >tendies don't buy games, look at all the ports that flopped
                The next it'll be that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Except that's demonstrably false.

                Its obvious that tendies cry for more 3rd party games but then dont buy them
                >his kind
                LMAO you really are like underage kids

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You really are "that kind".

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elder Ring sucks because the story is a bunch of word salad nonsense that means nothing. The """"story""""" comes from fan """""interpretations"""""" and the most agreed upon ones become canon. Garbage.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he plays souls games for story
      Its just the background, and zelda doesnt even have that much deeper story, just save some bimbo every game times

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sure, botw needs to improve, but it certainly doesn't need to learn anything from elden ring, it didn't do anything better than botw except for graphical fidelity and even then

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it didn't do anything better than botw except for graphical fidelity
      and combat, and weapon variety, and boss fights, and dungeons, and ... gameplay in general.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        all wrong try again

        BoTW already took notes from darks souls in the combat, all the new few weapons feel very souls like

        dark souls ripped off ocarina of time to begin with what are you on about

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >all wrong try again
          lmao botw has shit gameplay dude. wacking someone with one combat button until your sword cracks is somehow fricking lamer than even ER's shit hit>roll combat. BOTW doesn't even have dungeons and the divine beasts all look the same and play lamely.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sure it's highly imperfect but i'll take it over any soulsgame that is literally nothing but rol+r1 all the way through

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Dark souls just play like demons souls, and even then it is only targeting, and even that was done better, what even other things does it have like zelda?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      BoTW already took notes from darks souls in the combat, all the new few weapons feel very souls like

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They can't learn from Elden ring.

    You're comparing a game that deviated from the standard Zelda formula to a Game that took inspiration from the cruel dark world of Majora's mask and ocarina of time and tuned up the combat while getting rid of the story..

    Dark souls is what would've happened if Nintendo kept going with the N64 games and stuck with that dark trailer from twilight princess and the original one before wind waker.

    TLDR two totally different games cannot be compared. One is a open world survival game, and one is an open world ARPG

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Twilight Princess is very different from Dark Souls.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You can't even swim in ER. No cities, no interaction, you can't even swim. it's GTA III tier Open World at best. BOTW is better.
    Your reddit core game is already forgotten and hated by all real souls veterans.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If i wanted to play elden ring i would but i dont. I wanna play zelda. Why do gay-me journalist want every game to play like each other so that all games become one amorphous blob?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    but but but muh advance mechanics.
    still stuck in 2011

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Elden Ring mechanics is more progressive than anything in Zelda.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >ESL
        Dismissed.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cope. Elden Ring are GOTY

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >ESL
            >Niohgay(lol)
            >trying to falseflag after posting an anti-ER image
            Dismissed.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              ESL = Very good and right taste. Very high skill in gaming.
              EFL (yo) = Very bad and wrong taste. Very low skill in gaming.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Last reply, continue to dump your image folder you moronic russian troony.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Owned
                Nice.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Elden Ring are GOTY

            Game.Of The Year. Thats cute.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        character creation is "mechanics".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          BOTW has no character creation mechanic. limited gaming freedom. They should learn from Elden Ring GOTY

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Big idea: alternate Zelda playable character, or character switching, have magic as her combat

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            filtered

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >dissing character creation
          You will never be able to do this in a Zelda

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how about the learn from the first game and not others games? anyway, OP is a homosexual, no bumps.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why does zelda have to learn from some generic, albeit well made RPG?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >albeit well made RPG?
      >well made

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I wish ER was like this.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Have only 4 pseudo-dungeons?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Elden Ring is already killing it there.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why yes, 51 is a bigger number than 4, keep seething tendie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                51 pseudo dungeons huh.
                Well at least you admit ER didn't have any real ones.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Mm yes 4 gimmicky pseudo dungeons is what you would prefer

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >51 is a bigger number than 4
                51 is also a smaller number than 120. Shot yourself in the foot there huh.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You'd have a good argument if shrines were actual dungeons and weren't a quarter of the size, if that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                sure, but ER "shrines" are copy pasted environemnts with nothing but combat encounters and a repeated boss.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And unique loot, far more likely to provide an actual challenge and are 4-5 times the size of a shrine. Shrines are just a puzzle container entirely separate from the world just to dispense orbs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's just combat encounters over and over. BotW has the equivalent in the master trials, excpet it's better because they limit you character's strength to actually provide somewhat of a challenge.

                Yes, you do get unique loot. Unique loot that is overwhlemingly useless. In any given playthrough, over 90% of the shit you find is completely useless to your build and therefore irrelevant.

                If you think having a unique useless item that sit sin your inventory forever is better than having a useful temporary one you need your brain checked.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                There’s unique loot in some of the shrines (keep in mind there’s 120 of them in the base game), many armor sets can’t be bought, you have to get them from shrines.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >no multiple castles or combat zones that are like a zone straight from DS with a main boss of the area, like in Sormveil, Lyndell, Redmane, the list can go on
                >no lenghty dungeons connected naturally from the main open world
                >no underground cities almost in the size of 1/4th of the overworld
                Yeah, tell me more how shrines and 4 gimmicky dungeons are better

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I love ELden ring, but everything you described is set dressing. It looks pretty, but you're just endlessly walking over non interacteble terrain having nothing but combat encounters.

                It does look pretty though.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wow, I thought you were talking about Elden Ring until the last line everything about it fits.

                >no underground cities almost in the size of 1/4th of the overworld
                How the frick is that an underground city? No one lives there. It's just more wasteland to fight braindead enemies in.

                Lol 3 seething tendies instantly responding, that was a quick butthurt response, but with no real point, thanx for the (YOUs)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >being moronic
                hey you're moronic
                >lmao i got Yous
                ok moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anus level: hurt

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You are right, a zone filled with bird people where nothing happens but a dressing for 10 unvoiced lore dispenser NPCs is so much better than an combat zone in my action game

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's called a town with coherent NPCs. Maybe you would have enjoyed it more if they just wailed some random nonsense and mentioned zanzibar

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you encounter an NPC in ER, its a sidequest or a store, if you encounter an NPC in BoTW majority of them are just unvoiced 3 line dispensers, with few actually importand characters in between, you know it is like that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wow, I thought you were talking about Elden Ring until the last line everything about it fits.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >no underground cities almost in the size of 1/4th of the overworld
                How the frick is that an underground city? No one lives there. It's just more wasteland to fight braindead enemies in.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >botwgay talking about braindead enemies

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The AI is actually great. One of the few modern games to put effort into it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You'd have a good argument if shrines were actual dungeons
                No, then they wouldn't be applicable. As you can see

                Have only 4 pseudo-dungeons?

                >pseudo-dungeons
                This anon isn't referring to the 8 actual dungeons. In fact he seems to only be talking about the 4 on the plateau.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >counting the copy pasted "challenges" as dungeons, the worst part of the game

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You fight more combat drones in BotW than you fight unique bosses in Elden Ring.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You fight more combat drones in BotW than you fight unique bosses in Elden Ring
                You should probably count the copy paste bosses in ER.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I also wish my unique weapons shattered after I used them.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Every weapon you find in BotW you can use. In Elden ring, over 90% of the stuff you find is compeltley useless to your build and therefore irrelevant.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And everything in Zelda (including the master sword) is completely useless after one encounter no matter what you do.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >items don't clog up inventory
                >can get another one any time
                Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                if you used it for one encounter then it wasn't useless, dumbfrick. Take the L

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's like saying spells and items in ER are completely useless. Or hell, attacking since your stamina drains.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I want to play as a knight not some floaty gay elf, no thank you

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Did you post this because you thought it made BotW look bad?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No, he thinks sequence breaks from 2008 make games of the year

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Multiple traversal and puzzle solving options are a good thing, yes.

              The fact you can't tell says all that needs to be said, really.

              Not really, people are aggressively moronic when it comes to ER an BotW so your quip was pretty worthless.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The fact you can't tell says all that needs to be said, really.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >thats your entire dungeon
          >thatll be 60 bucks plus 350 for the console you need to play it with

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >broooo Elden Ring is COUNTER CULTURE bro! Journos and streamers hate it bro it's too hard for them loooool it's for us gamers bro

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Genshin Impact destroyed Zelda.
    Elden Ring is just a massive Dark Souls game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Anime waifugay game with gatcha mechanics and copy+paste artstyle and design philosophy taken from BotW
      If BotW is pizza, this game is like pineapple pizza

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It improves on everything BotW does except it has much shittier monetization.
        BotW is ground beef, and GI is an overpriced Steak.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring and BOTW are not even remotely the same kind of game. They both have an open world and that's it. You may as well say GTA V destroyed Skyrim.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they are more similar than different. this is like comparing elden ring to a racing game. quit downplaying the debate because you know elden gay is the big gay.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >elden gay is the big gay.
        >play as link crossdresser in BotW

        girl

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Elden Ring and BOTW are not even remotely the same kind of game.
      Of course they are they're both open world action adventure games with similar combat options. The only difference is the setting and that ER is limited by souls gameplay.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bam a ham yum'd
    what the frick is this zoomerspeak, use english for christs sake

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think he means Elden Ring would have beaten it for goty which of course it would have, it's a Nintendo game.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring could be a great learning tool for Nintendo. It’s good to learn from someone else’s mistakes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Nintendo learned those lessons more than 20 years ago.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The mistakes in Elden Ring are mistakes Nintendo overcame with the N64 and GC zelda games.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What mistakes in Elden Ring are you talking about?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >nintendo needs to learn
    >implying brand loyal sheeple will ever stop buying bing bing wahoo shovelware

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Bing Bing Wahoo ought to be Bing Bing Boohoo

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I loved both games.
    OH NO BUT I WON'T PICK A SIDE SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ARGUE WITH ME NOW?
    OH NONO O O NO NO THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN! I SHOULD ONLY AGREE OR DISAGREE AND MY WHOLE IDENTITY SHOULD REVOLVE 100% AROUND THE SIDES THAT I PICK!
    OH NONO NO NO NO WHAT THE FRICK?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good on you Anon.
      Chad video game enjoyer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This. You can enjoy both games. This rivalry is a pure fabrication.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >This rivalry is a pure fabrication.
          Pretty much everyone knows that but here's the thing, if you keep the shitposters busy by making them think they're arguing against tendies it distracts them from the real threads.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That’s exactly my tactic.
            I suspect a lot of these shitposters are poorgays who can’t afford more than one game, mentally ill or both.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Only good Tendie series is Metroid, everything else is for dumb kids that dont know better

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    botw lives in your head rent free. no matter what game you're playing, you're thinking of botw. absolutely hilarious.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's an interesting phenomenon, it's been 5 almost 6 years and they can't get over breath of the wild.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what the frick are you talking about

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its just 2 things no weapon durability and proper dungeons not like elden shit

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Give a unique reward at the end of each shrine. Elden Ring made it so I wanted to complete every optional Dungeon just to see what unique sword, summon or accessory I'd get. BOTWs rewards were always the same stat boosting item and sometimes you'd get a good weapon (that breaks). It was predictable and I got bored of them after 30. The content inside was too short to feel truly engaged, like Elden Rings mini dungeons, but at least Elden Rings combat is fun. Elden Ring also had proper large dungeons that BOTW didn't really have. Even the beasts are smaller scale, so you only have Hyrule castle.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just to see what unique sword, summon or accessory I'd get.
      Too bad they almost never had anything unique.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They were all unique though. They are variations on items you've seen before but it's not like you got the same spirit twice in different dungeons. I didn't use most of them either, I liked collecting them and I couldn't do that with BOTW rewards because I was just going to dump points in stamina.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They are variations on items you've seen before
          I rest my case.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Still better than the same exact item every time. Zelda used to give actual usable items in dungeons but you get nothing in BOTW.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Still better than the same exact item every time
              Which is what you're getting in ER.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This mindset is unironically moronic and it's ruining gaming when it caters to people like you. Getting random useless shit just to fill out a checkbox is terrible game design.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        BOTW dungeons weren't compelling on their own or I wouldn't have gotten bored a third of the way through them. I got more enjoyment out of Skyward Swords dungeons. Something about piecemealing them took the magic out of Zelda. It's the only Zelda I didn't like.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you don't have to do any shrines other than the tutorial ones. If you weren't enjoying them, just go for divine beasts and compelte the main quest. Even doing just that is enough of a game to satisfy a casual player.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I like to 100% my games and this was too tedious so I quit. I did the divine beasts and other notable stuff like eventide and lost woods. I got to about 70 shrines and dropped it because i wasn't having fun anymore. It felt like an Ubisoft game.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds like an autism problem to me if you can't just play games and enjoy them and instead have to try to 100% them for some reason.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think too much filler makes a game worse. It's everyone's major complaint with asscreed and I got the same vibes from this game. Nintendo and From should stop open world because they both were too long and repetitive but Elden Ring was more tolerable because I liked its combat and it had properly long traditional dungeons. Just my preference and I'll give BOTW2 a chance but will be disappointed if there aren't big dungeons again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I'll give BOTW2 a chance but will be disappointed if there aren't big dungeons again.
                this we can agree on. I hope they bring back proper dungeons, and I'm confident they will

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >BOTW dungeons weren't compelling on their own or I wouldn't have gotten bored a third of the way through them
          That says more about you than the game. You prefer extremely linear games rather than something that makes you choose

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Choose between copy pasted dumb challenges that are ubisoft tier and any kid could do? Wow how riveting.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Choose between copy pasted dumb challenges that are ubisoft tier and any kid could do?
              AKA the souls special.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Still better than the same exact item every time
                Which is what you're getting in ER.

                Why are tendies only capable of repeating "no u" instead of making an actual point?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You would know if you didn't hate Nintendo so much.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I dont hate Nintendo games, their practices and braindead fanboys is a different matter

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Case in point.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No it doesn't. The dungeons in Breath of the Wild are pathetic.
            Firstly, there is no element of spatial reasoning to any of the dungeons. They are isolated rooms/challenges to get to each of terminals so it the arrangement of the rooms themselves never matters.
            Secondly, they are very short. The Rito one in took me around 5-10 minutes my first time and I deliberately avoided trivialising it. This makes them even worse considering that there's only four and that the rest of the game is so massive, they take up such a small fraction of the time you spend that they are forgettable.
            The whole "you can do the terminals in any order so it's good" is flawed logic. The "choices" don't matter because you do it all anyway and they don't make it any more interesting

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >. The dungeons in Breath of the Wild are pathetic.
              >Firstly, there is no element of spatial reasoning to any of the dungeons.

              You understand jack about game design so you can shove your buzzwords up your ass.

              There is nothing in Elden Ring this creative or inventive or open to player agency as pic-related.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                people are just mad that BOTW dungeons are not grind fest for loot, but instead are puzzles.
                this confuses the simple minds of roll gays.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >people are just mad that BOTW dungeons are not grind fest for loot, but instead are puzzles.
                >this confuses the simple minds of roll gays.
                but the whole of BOTW is a grind fest for the same loot over and over again, what are you even talking about?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The puzzles in the divine beasts are unironically top tier quality. The problem with the beats is the repetitive aesthetic and how even the puzzles within the dungeons are somewhat self-contained.

                If the sequel has puzzles of this quality but in a more intecrate dungeon that requires some sequencing to advance it will be fricking glorious.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What do you mean by self-contained? Haven't dungeon puzzles always been self-contained?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                while i dislike BotW, the dungeons in the game were top notch, the problem is there is way too much boring downtime in between the dungeons that killed my interested in the game

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The puzzles in the divine beasts are unironically top tier quality. The problem with the beats is the repetitive aesthetic and how even the puzzles within the dungeons are somewhat self-contained.

                If the sequel has puzzles of this quality but in a more intecrate dungeon that requires some sequencing to advance it will be fricking glorious.

                while i dislike BotW, the dungeons in the game were top notch, the problem is there is way too much boring downtime in between the dungeons that killed my interested in the game

                Every dungeon looked the same and was piss easy.
                OoT and MM blow those dungeons out of the water in visual design alone...this isn't even mentioning environmental puzzles being more interesting.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Firstly, there is no element of spatial reasoning to any of the dungeons.
              This is completely fricking wrong. You can move the divine beasts as a whole and move through them freely while they're moving. It's one of the best examples of spatial reasoning in any game.

              >The whole "you can do the terminals in any order so it's good" is flawed logic. The "choices" don't matter because you do it all anyway and they don't make it any more interesting
              Don't bother replying. You're genuinely too stupid to argue with.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                There is never a need to think about the whole space at once. All you need is to consider how to get to a specific place that's isolated from the rest of the dungeon. In Ages Jabu you have to go through rooms multiple times in different states and think about how the rooms are changed by the dungeon state. In any of the divine beasts it's "I'm going to change the state then I'll get to the terminal room" and there's no need to consider anything other than the central room and where you're going. The DLC dungeon wears this on its sleeve by having four discrete areas but they're all like that.

                Tell me how doing things in any order is inherently good.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Gottem

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I got more enjoyment out of skyward swords dungeons.
          Skyward sword is a good one so far with dungeons. I kinda hate trying to find where the abducted kid is in town though for one of the npcs.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          BotW was the only 3D Zelda game I didn't get bored of the dungeons half way through besides MM and WW. Gameplay is more important than window dressing, and physics puzzles are fun. Getting an item and using it to solve simple lock and key style puzzles is offensively boring.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We are polar opposites. I thought the physics puzzles were boring as frick. They could have at least given a carrot and a stick.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >We are polar opposites
              Yeah, I like interacting game systems and gameplay and not a boring "puzzle" and the game telling me I found a cool item that really only has a couple specific uses.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So you admit you need to have your hand held to finish games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yea when I'm unsatisfied with the gameplay.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You definitely never played SS if you think that. If you got bored of BotW you should've been 4 times as bored of SS ones.

          SS and BotW are the exact same design philosophy with BotW simply being shorter to compensate for the less obvious linear pathing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They were all unique though. They are variations on items you've seen before but it's not like you got the same spirit twice in different dungeons. I didn't use most of them either, I liked collecting them and I couldn't do that with BOTW rewards because I was just going to dump points in stamina.

      Elden ring's rewards are absolutely abysmal compared to the previous games. From the beginning of haligtree all the way up to malenia I still haven't even found a single sword or armor item that wasn't an enemy drop, and believe me i've been looking.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring isn't fit to lick the shit from BotW's boots. There's more gameplay variety in BotW's tutorial area than Elden Ring has in its entirety.

    Its alarming that a 6 year old Wii U is better designed and feels positively next-level compared to a recent peer running on 12 teraflop super consoles.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ER and BotW are both amazing games and I’m glad they both exist and can be enjoyed by all vidya enjoyers. Everyone I know who likes vidya games likes both games, I have never met a single human who seethes at Zelda or ER. I guess my friends are functional human beings capable of affording their hobby. My buddy is in his late 30’s, huge sony fanboy, favorite series is Resident Evil yet he owns a monster gaming PC, switch, PS5, XBOX and multiple consoles from previous gens. Dude just loves vidya.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Im not saying that BoTW is a bad game, for me it is an 8/10, but there are alot for them to grow and learn from Elden Ring, like weapon, enemy, dungeon variety, and i hope hope they do in the 2nd game, but not admitting that ER is not a great game is just spitefull brand loyality, yes some might have different taste than me, but for me ER simply is the better game

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >like weapon, enemy, dungeon variety
      But this is mostly shit. Movesets in ER are pitiful, there are a lot of types of enemies but they all behave boringly, and the only good dungeon was Stormveil.

      >but not admitting that ER is not a great game is just spitefull brand loyality
      Sekiro and BB are masterpieces.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sekiro is more linear but great game, havent played BB because i dont own anything sony past 2010

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      None of the shit you listed is unique to elden ring.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And? Still lacking in BoTW

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That means there's nothing for them to learn the deliberately chose to have shit enemy variety since games that came before it had better enemy variety.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Botw has like 5 enemies reskinned 4 times, ER has more bosses let alone enemies than what BoTW does, that really needs to be adressed in the sequel

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >ER has more bosses let alone enemies than what BoTW does
              Yeah but the AI is absolute fricking trash.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >1 cherrypicked webm
                This never happened to me once while fighting the boss

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >cherrypicked
                Highlighting the shit AI is not cherrypicking. Cherrypicking would imply there's only 1 boss with 1 or 2 exploits. That's not the case. All of the enemy AI is terrible.

                congratulations
                you found a bug
                do you feel special?

                >you found a bug
                That's not a bug, that's how the AI works. Do you know what bugs are?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                congratulations
                you found a bug
                do you feel special?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Look at you throwing stones in glass houses.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Both of these games are from DECADES ago. Elden Rkng was released a few months ago on current gen systems.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand what you think the problem with the top one is. An enemy is attacking, and the player is blocking. It's also an isolated enemy when they're always found in groups so they can attack together. This is in comparison to an actual boss doing nothing as the player lays down in front of it, and then only attacks when they press the sips button.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not an excuse. These are technically some of the most powerful, endgame enemies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Emulator glitch.

                The state of PCgays.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah everything you don't like is an emulator glitch because botw is on such underpowered hardware people can easily emulate it and you have that as such a convenient excuse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                As usual - as you have done for 6 years lol - you keep posting these webms with zero context.

                In your webm the player is wearing some the most powerful armour in the game (which you can only get from the castle) and is wielding a Savage Lynel Spear (one of the fastest and most powerful weapons in the entire game which you only get by beating the most powerful enemy in the game.

                No fricking shit that player is going to wreck a lowertier lizalfos, he's EARNED it.

                You have been mindbroken for 6 years and we all keep laughing at you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you can do the same infinite stunlock with any tier of weapon.

                Damage is unrelated to stagger in this situation. The only thing that makes the silver/gold tiers of enemies harder is the fact they have a super-bloated health pool which necessitates using a higher durability weapon.

                If he had a maxed inventory of dragonbone spears, he'd be able to accomplish the exact same result.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >you can do the same infinite stunlock with any tier of weapon.

                No you can't. Your weapon will just break. And you will very rarely ever fight these enemies one-on-one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You only managed to read the first half a sentence before your ADHD kicked in. Go take your meds you fricken loon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No you're argument is moronic.

                >the player can easily wail on low-tier enemies if he takes the time to travel the world, stocking up on the most powerful weapons and then button-mashing like a moron

                Can you hear yourself?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                [...]


                >

                You only managed to read the first half a sentence before your ADHD kicked in. Go take your meds you fricken loon.

                (You)
                Gold/Silver lizalfos are unironically one of the most dangerous enemy types you can run into in the game. Lynell's sure as frick aren't more dangerous. So yes, you can fight and defeat the most powerful set of enemies in the entire game with plateu weapons very easily, with the caveat that you bring many of them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >These are technically some of the most powerful, endgame enemies.
                No they aren't, they're found all over the map.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah everything you don't like is an emulator glitch because botw is on such underpowered hardware people can easily emulate it and you have that as such a convenient excuse.

                How many times have you posted these webms?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We don't know, he changes the hashes every few months so you can't find them all in the archives.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >actually changing hashes
                Holy fricking shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's doing it right now too right here

                Me personally? Probably around 3 times. I don't care how often other people post them, I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai when botw's is only on this level and nobody else has posted them yet. It's like trying to complain about ER's boss variety. Sure ER has some repeat bosses, but hearing the complaint come from someone trying to defend botw is laughable.

                This is a completely new hash but the webm has been used with that file name more than once.
                %20/

                It's also worth noting that he has it saved under multiple filenames.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo nobody can just save a webm on Ganker and repost it, it has to be only one persoooooon!!
                take your meds morono

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If it's the same automatically generated filename with a different hash, then yes, it means you're mentally ill and changing the hashes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                An imagehash doesn't change just because you save a file. For example I just saved this from Google and in a moment I'll find the hash in the archive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                As you can see that image has been used 241 times under that hash. None of them are me because I just saved it.
                https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/XinV8_VDLDfFvwyLNi1yGA/

                This post on the other hand

                Me personally? Probably around 3 times. I don't care how often other people post them, I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai when botw's is only on this level and nobody else has posted them yet. It's like trying to complain about ER's boss variety. Sure ER has some repeat bosses, but hearing the complaint come from someone trying to defend botw is laughable.

                Is the only instance under that hash
                https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/PBIO6q1xcaiFlJaH1iNKrg/
                But searching the filename you get this
                /
                Five more images with the same filename but if you do this
                https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/zE2c_F2ayW8n5bMdL6fOcg/
                You get the same webm with 35 more results.
                Now, there's no way you simply saved the same webm and did nothing more because yours would fall into the same hash as the others.

                To top it off the file name is in Unix and it corresponds to the day the original you saved was posted. The date on your filename is May 18, 2022
                On that date the webm was posted once
                https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/599353779/#599362481
                And it gets deeper since that one has a file name that corresponds with April 7th 2021
                https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/550983401/#551023668
                Which is this post
                After that it uses a generic filename, I could search though the results but I'm not that bored right now.
                Point is that you're going through absurd lengths purely to shitpost.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I kneel before your brilliant autism

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >autism
                I wouldn't even call it that. I just copy and pasted a few things around and it blew open the
                >I just posted it three times
                Nonsense he was posting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Point is that you're going through absurd lengths purely to shitpost.
                For all that impressive autism and attempts to dodge the contents of those webms, you're still wrong. I haven't changed the hash and none of those ones with (1) after the filename or any of the other filenames are me, nor is whatever you're talking about with Unix or the dates.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Pretending to be completely tech illiterate isn't going to help you now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >For all that impressive autism and attempts to dodge the contents of those webms,
                Because the content is irrelevant to what I was targeting, the claim of posting it only once. That said, if I wanted to scrutinise there I would GS simply pointed out the UI. With that one simple change you can claim your webms were made using actual hardware.
                >I haven't changed the hash
                Which is a blatant lie otherwise you wouldn't have a new instance of an existing webm that was saved from a post that shows up in the other hash search and I sky think I need to explain to you how it's impossible for you to create the video again yourself.
                >and none of those ones with (1) after the filename or any of the other filenames are me
                I never said they all were. The whole point was to show that you saved the one you posted from the same source and that the one you just posted uses a new hash which is impossible unless you changed it.

                You may as well just make another attempt in another thread.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >posting it only once
                Excuse me, only posting it three times.
                I'm only half paying attention to what I'm doing here since I'm playing yugioh.
                With that said, it does present another contradiction since you claimed to have posted it three times but your hash shows up once.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >posting it only once
                Excuse me, only posting it three times.
                I'm only half paying attention to what I'm doing here since I'm playing yugioh.
                With that said, it does present another contradiction since you claimed to have posted it three times but your hash shows up once.

                >the claim of posting it only once
                I didn't claim I posted that only once. I may or may not have posted that webm a few times, I don't know, I don't keep count nor care to. I just know beyond any shadow of doubt I never changed the hash. At least not intentionally.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you should have read this post properly

                >posting it only once
                Excuse me, only posting it three times.
                I'm only half paying attention to what I'm doing here since I'm playing yugioh.
                With that said, it does present another contradiction since you claimed to have posted it three times but your hash shows up once.

                > I just know beyond any shadow of doubt I never changed the hash. At least not intentionally.
                You clearly did, changing a hash doesn't happen automatically.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I did, that's why I said I don't know exactly how many times I posted it. I can only say with any confidence it would be 3 or less.
                >You clearly did, changing a hash doesn't happen automatically
                Considering I didn't change the hash, willingly at least, that's very interesting. I've never even made a webm before if you want me to be perfectly honest and I'm pretty sure changing the hash would require altering that webm itself in some subtle way, which I would not care enough to learn how to do. Is it possibly that the quality of these webms or images degrade as they're uploaded and downloaded and that's enough to change the hash? Genuine question, I'm curious now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                To add to this, I'm pretty sure the bottom one is me and out of all those links posted, that's it
                /

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >At least not intentionally.
                They don't change accidentally you moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can repeat that all you like, I know I didn't change it. Read

                I did, that's why I said I don't know exactly how many times I posted it. I can only say with any confidence it would be 3 or less.
                >You clearly did, changing a hash doesn't happen automatically
                Considering I didn't change the hash, willingly at least, that's very interesting. I've never even made a webm before if you want me to be perfectly honest and I'm pretty sure changing the hash would require altering that webm itself in some subtle way, which I would not care enough to learn how to do. Is it possibly that the quality of these webms or images degrade as they're uploaded and downloaded and that's enough to change the hash? Genuine question, I'm curious now.

                To add to this, I'm pretty sure the bottom one is me and out of all those links posted, that's it
                /

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Are you moronic or something?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why so angry?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You just admitted to changing it you moron. If the first and last posts are yours that would make them the same file and the bottom file has a completely different hash.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Read that post again. I don't want to argue with you, I want the guy who sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I want the guy who sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
                So you want anyone with common sense huh? Because everyone knows this shit which is why you can't convince anyone you didn't change the hash on purpose.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If I did I would admit it. I don't care. I'm just curious now and you're clearly either not willing or don't know, so

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If I did I would admit it.
                You've been lying this entire thread, who do you think you're fooling?
                >I'm just curious
                Curious about what? A hash is a digital fingerprint it doesn't change unless you do it on purpose.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >this entire thread
                More baseless accusations, so why should I take anything you have to say seriously?
                jpegs can change in quality and quality can change the hash. It stands to reason that uploading and downloading webms can also change enough to change a hash. A hash can be change by a mere pixel on an image. You're not interested in the subject and just upset over the contents of those webms.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >jpegs can change in quality and quality can change the hash.
                Oh wow you might actually be right...
                Except this isn't a jpg nor does file degradation affect the hash.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Except this isn't a jpg
                Hence why I was curious if it applied to webms, unlike pngs, which I suspect it does since it changed. And the quality changing can absolutely determine a hash and that's easily testable. But it doesn't look like he's coming back, so whatever.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Funny hearing you losers whine about this when you're more than willing to spam smug zeldas and do the exact same shit which prompted those webms to be posted to begin with.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Funny hearing you losers whine about this when you're more than willing to spam smug zeldas
                What you mean the X days since Ganker cried images you people post alongside the webms?
                Yeah we know you lot post them too.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Me personally? Probably around 3 times. I don't care how often other people post them, I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai when botw's is only on this level and nobody else has posted them yet. It's like trying to complain about ER's boss variety. Sure ER has some repeat bosses, but hearing the complaint come from someone trying to defend botw is laughable.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >someone's trying to throw stones in a glass
                That's not how you use that term.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Google is hard.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It is indeed.
                Now I suggest you use that term properly next time.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably around 3 times.
                Don't lie.
                >I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai
                You're using that expression wrong. People have made dozens of webs for Elden Ring despite it being new, whereas you've been posting like 3 webms for years. BotW enemies actually have good AI. They have complex behaviors. And I don't understand what you think the problem with the webm you posted is. He's got endgame gear and stats an he's fighting a few mid enemies. What do you think the problem there is? Do you even understand what's going on in the webms or have you not actually played the game? But I'll tell you what. I'll drop the whole argument and admit you're right if you can post a webm of any enemy or boss in Elden Ring showing some sort of situational awareness or reactivity to the environment or cooperation with other enemies, or really doing anything other than lumbering towards the player followed by some fast swipes/AoEs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That is some Oblivion tier game mechanic, bravo!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If it's so old and basic, then show someone at least of that level in Elden Ring.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lol play the game, if you shoot on ground they will go check out noise, or when you kill something without alerting enemies, when they see a corpse, they will go check it out. are you being serious? There are even spells that bait enemies, but if you would have played you would know that...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It is indeed.
                Now I suggest you use that term properly next time.

                You are both moronic.
                https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/throwing+stones+in+a+glass+house

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm well aware of the expression "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." Its existence is not what I was disputing. Learn to read.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're criticizing bad combat and ai while having bad combat and ai. Learn to comprehend.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The argument was about AI. You're a slimy little israelite trying to weasel the idea of combat in general into the equation so you can fall back on saying that it's all shit anyways so mechanics and AI don't matter. I'm not going to let you do that. This webm

                >Probably around 3 times.
                Don't lie.
                >I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai
                You're using that expression wrong. People have made dozens of webs for Elden Ring despite it being new, whereas you've been posting like 3 webms for years. BotW enemies actually have good AI. They have complex behaviors. And I don't understand what you think the problem with the webm you posted is. He's got endgame gear and stats an he's fighting a few mid enemies. What do you think the problem there is? Do you even understand what's going on in the webms or have you not actually played the game? But I'll tell you what. I'll drop the whole argument and admit you're right if you can post a webm of any enemy or boss in Elden Ring showing some sort of situational awareness or reactivity to the environment or cooperation with other enemies, or really doing anything other than lumbering towards the player followed by some fast swipes/AoEs.

                showed more complicated AI than anything Elden Ring has. If you can't provide examples of AI in Elden Ring that does anything other than walk towards the player and then attack, then the expression about glass houses does not apply. Now stop trying to argue semantics and post a webm of good Elden Ring AI.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wow, it's almost like you're glossing over the word "and" so you can piss your pants over someone criticizing your favorite video game. The ai is shit. The combat is shit. Your cope will not change that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Less israelite whining and more Elden Ring AI posting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I like how hard this anon got btfo'd just from one webm.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Did he? Looks like other anons were doing whatever they could to avoid the point to me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Did he
                Yeah? Did you even read the replies? He's a regular shitposter and was outed for changing imagehashes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Criticism is shitposting only to fanboys and shitposters and he made more sense over the imagehash argument

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah everything you don't like is an emulator glitch because botw is on such underpowered hardware people can easily emulate it and you have that as such a convenient excuse.

                Noo dont post it waaah waahh

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No. That's just the highest level of one of the weakest and shittiest enemies of the game. The fact that it's gold doesn't suddenly mean it's one of the most powerful endgame enemies.
                And that anon is right. These enemies are designed to spawn in groups, which is what they do 95% of the time.

                So it's interesting that you've got all these webms of isolated enemies when they would have had to have been isolated before the webm could even be recorded.
                Not to mention how inefficiently the player is fighting in these webms.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Not to mention how inefficiently the player is fighting in these webms
                He kills a group of black bokoblins in 20 seconds by mashing. How would you do that faster with some super snazzy environmental interactions and physics? Or would you just pause and pop strength ups and mash a little less?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Are you thinking of

                Me personally? Probably around 3 times. I don't care how often other people post them, I just find it funny someone's trying to throw stones in a glass house over combat and ai when botw's is only on this level and nobody else has posted them yet. It's like trying to complain about ER's boss variety. Sure ER has some repeat bosses, but hearing the complaint come from someone trying to defend botw is laughable.

                ?
                For starters, that's not one of the many cited webms where the player inefficiently fights 1-on-1.
                But it is a webm where the player inefficiently fights a group of enemies so sure.

                >How would you do that faster with some super snazzy environmental interactions and physics?
                It'd be quite simple. Doesn't even need to rely on any tryhard tricks or glitches or whatever the frick. If he had just some jump attacks and charge attacks it could have been done much quicker. But instead he just mashes basic attack over and over because the guy who recorded is something of a disingenuous c**t who wants to present the game in a bad light to prove some point. Hence the poor webm and its poor gameplay.
                But to its credit, it's not nearly as moronic as some of the other more commonly posted ones.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >because the guy who recorded is something of a disingenuous c**t who wants to present the game in a bad light to prove some point
                If you watch people playing botw that's how they fight. They're not pulling off the cherrypicked webms people post in these threads of wacky physics shenanigans. Also charge and jump attacks would just knock them back and make you have to chase after them even sooner, it wouldn't be some oneshot.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If you watch people playing botw that's how they fight
                It's the exact opposite actually, once you pass the plateau players are more Conservative with their attacks going for weak points and whatnot to save weapon durability.
                No one ever wildly flails about.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >once you pass the plateau players are more Conservative with their attacks going for weak points and whatnot to save weapon durability.
                The hell? No. The plateau is where you conserve when you have no inventory space. Once you're past that you can chew through weapons since they're everywhere and you have far more room to hold them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The plateau is where you conserve when you have no inventory space
                The plateau is also where you learn about weapon durability and until your first breaks, which is usually after the plateau, you would play it more like a regular zelda game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Jump attacks don't send them flying away and it doesn't matter if charging attacks sends enemies flying if it's the finishing blow.
                The average player doesn't actually just spam basic attack.

                you're out of your mind if you think the average BotW player doesn't just mash B on most enemies that aren't a Lynel or Hinox, maybe some attacks with the bow to take down Bokoblin archers on perches or Wizzrobes in midair but not much else, the game doesn't demand anything more complex by any means

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Simple jump attacks and charge attacks aren't complex. And casuals actually and most players in general actually over use the moves because they're commonly perceived as satisfying to pull off. Comparably. Meaning they use these moves to unnecessary degrees, to a fault.

                And you're out of your mind if you think otherwise.
                But not using them at all, is in fact, ineffective.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have a single fact to back that up?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Right back at you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I hardly ever used jump attacks on the ground and rarely used charge attacks since it launched every enemy I hit every which way. If I did bother with combat, it was almost always just sneak attacks. Because they were easy, and they did a lot of damage. But they weren't very fun.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Jump attacks don't send them flying away and it doesn't matter if charging attacks sends enemies flying if it's the finishing blow.
                The average player doesn't actually just spam basic attack.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Again 90% of all games have better enemy variety, ffs the botw musou has better enemy variety.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Again 90% of all games have better enemy variety.

                More reductive fricking bullshit. You are just INVENTING fricking nonsense to conplain about.

                Considering BotW is running on a fricking Wii U it completely puts most open world games to shame. Especially ever other open world game in 2017 running on far more powerful hardware and even games which have come after.

                Lets look at other open world games around this time....

                RDR2:
                Every c**t in the game is a gun wiener who looks and behaves exactly the same way. Dead eye to win.

                Spider-Man:
                Every goon in the city looks and behaves exactly the same. Bam Ham Spam to win.

                Far Cry 5:
                Literally two fricking enemies in the entire game who behave exactly the same. Rooty Tooty Shooty to win.

                BotW is teeming with variety by comparison with a roll call of unique enemies which all look and behave differently and require their own strategy to beat. Complaining about enemy variety in BotW is barrel-scraping desperation for a criticism. An argument which holds no fricking water whatsoever

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What's your favourite BotW enemy? Is it bokblins, lizalfos or moblins?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >What's your favourite BotW enemy?

                Moldulga.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Bokoboblins but now blue, ofc

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wizrobes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Moblins because they can pick up bobos an beat me with them and it's funny.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Mother fricking bears

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Probably the Stalnox

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Bokoblins, but blue. I like blue. Blue is my favorite color.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The ones in the colour of the crayons i eat, i love Bref of the wuild, its my favourite game ever

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I kind of like the keese swarms

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's an obvious answer, but of course it's the lynels.
                The guardians are kind of fun too. The flying ones especially.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >3 games is 90% of all games
                Based mathlet. Also why you leave out games that prove you wrong?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Every goon in the city looks and behaves exactly the same. Bam Ham Spam to win.
                I think this is the most disappointing one given they could have used some minor villains like White Rabbit and Mysterio to give you more variety on the street.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What does it need to learn? Elden Ring has worse combat, story, and AI. It also only runs at 60 FPS. Surely if BOTW 2 was designed to play on PC or other consoles then it would outsell Elden Ring by a longshot. Literally the only thing holding Zelda back right now is hardware.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >It's still gonna run at sub 30fps
    4 u. I'll be playing it at 1440p60 on my humble GTX 1060.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The most optimal way to play

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the way it's meant to be played, even.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kys arthur

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kys arthur you moron, you're an embarrassment to this fanbase

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >falling for nintendo's vaporware hype machine
    anon... I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you this but there isn't a BOTW2

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how about no
    seriously it good that the different in each it way
    would both go shit if the all change to please some moody influencer whimsically whining on social media

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BotW2 is going to destroy this place.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      With how copy pasted and DLC like it will be?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If it's shit, yes it will, although my expectations are rock bottom, so I probably won't care. I half expect zelda to be dead right now anyway, so all my ire is straight at botw.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's with people downplaying or just straight up saying how useless and unimportant the environmental interaction and other shit in BOTW is? Even calling it a sandbox in a way that's supposed to be negative. Open World games actually should just be like that by default, getting iterated on every passing gen/game. Otherwise, what's the fricking point? How could you WANT a useless static world with zero purpose but to look pretty and would barely be any different if it was just a regular linear game instead?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What's with people downplaying or just straight up saying how useless and unimportant the environmental interaction and other shit in BOTW is?
      Mostly homosexuals that think they're "real" Zelda fans but don't actually like gameplay, and don't really play other console or PC games to understand that those elements are great for games, and that BotW's are actually surprisingly good. That and ACgay shitposting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because you can just mash and kill shit a thousand times more efficiently than wasting time on environmental interactions that are often clunky, prone to failure, and lost their novelty and most of their usefulness around the time you left the plateau.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >that are often clunky, prone to failure
        BotW's physics are absurdly polished to the point that you just made it obvious you haven't played the game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Trying to use magnesis or such in the middle of combat is super inefficient and clunky. You can clip right through objects you're standing on while trying to stasis launch. You can levitate yourself into the sky using magnesis while standing on some metal objects. etc.
          Nevermind the fact that they lose nearly all usefulness in the world outside of shrines and once you've left the plateau.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clunky
            It's not. You're just saying words but the problem is that they don't apply at all.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Don't care if you agree or not. It's clunky.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's not clunky at all. It's smooth. The magnesis control never gets jittery or jumps. It is by definition not clunky, and you are by definition a shitposting moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >jittery or jumps
                Leak up the definition of the word clunky, mouthbreather.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Leak up the definition
                Thanks for the laugh, dipshit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession, asshat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That wasn't a minor spelling mistake, that was a "I'm a phoneposting moron but you should still take me seriously" mistake. You still don't know what clunky means.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anyone who devolves an argument to a matter of semantics or definitions loses by default. Clunky means cumbersome, awkward, inelegant btw

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        By that logic, no game needs to be any bigger nor complex than Doom since you can mash and kill shit there just fine.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Both games have boring empty open worlds and nothing to interact with besides enemies. Why do zoomers have such low standards

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but it's always fun watching fanboys froth at the mouth.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it, Soulsborne has always been about aesthetic and boss fights and nothing else. These aren't comparable, I barely even consider Elden Ring an open world game

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God, I hate these fricking click-baity israeliteshit videos with the passion of a thousand suns.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're going to see it a lot with nintendo games simply because YouTubers and journalists have realised they can use Nintendo shitposters as free money.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Elden Ring DESTROYED Zelda
    People are still talking about Zelda though.
    And expect millions of threads when its out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that zelder should have been forgotten since the last good game in the 90s

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope nintendo is aware how damaging their core philosophy for BotW is for the quality of the game. In the pursuit of making a game where you can go anywhere and do anything at any time they effectively destroyed any sense of progression. The stories they tell don't barely affect anything in the world making the whole thing feel kind of hollow.
    The main lesson they should take from ER is that it's ok make a slightly closed off open world that you progressively unlock as your character and players grows in knowledge, power and skill.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I hope nintendo is aware how damaging their core philosophy for BotW is for the quality of the game
      I do to. That's why no matter how shit these threads get or upset it makes people, it needs to be criticized.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sure Nintendo lurks these threads

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick you everything Nintendo makes is a 10/10 and how dare you say anything less than praise for our glorious company. Skyward sword was never bad!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I hope nintendo is aware how damaging their core philosophy for BotW is for the quality of the game. In the pursuit of making a game where you can go anywhere and do anything at any time they effectively destroyed any sense of progression.

      Thats not true at progression in BotW is a personal one. As an adventure game, BotW is far better than the tired archiac linearity of:

      Go here
      Do a thing
      Now go over here
      Do another thing

      Its played out and boring as frick. BotW is a glimpse of what future video games can be. Don't you want gaming to evolve? You want to keep playing 30 year old game design concepts forever?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We had that in every elder scrolls games, once you are in the open world, you can do what you want. BoTW even have a lenghty closed off toturial

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >We had that in every elder scrolls games, once you are in the open world, you can do what you want

          By the Skyward Sword released, it was far removed from the original concept of Zelda it was barely recognisable as being the same series.

          Many fans were jealously looking over the fence at Skyrim and recognising many of the qualities of Zelda which had long missing from the series.

          But there isn't a single Elder Scrolls which plays anything BotW. Its not just about non-linearity, its about exploring living world which changes around you and informa the gameplay, and the player is allowed to fashion their own solutions to advertersity using their wits and resources - like a real adventure.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I get what you mean an open world third person adventure game with world interactions, but i would add rpg elements and variable combat and some magic to the mix, that would be even greater game

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That is Dragons Dogma

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I can only guess that Nintendo wanted to make a very streamlined game and maybe they thought a bloated combat system would complicate things.

              There's nothing stopping anyone from making better game than BotW.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I agree BoTW is wayy to simplistic, good we have more fleshed out alternatives

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I agree BoTW is wayy to simplistic, good we have more fleshed out alternatives

                I know that if I tried pic-related in BotW I would catch fire and die.

                But I also know I could use that fire to cook food, or light a tree branch to keep warm, use fire to burn a field, use the updraft to allow me gain height, use it set other enemies on fire, use it to light a touch l, use it to light an arrow, use it to melt ice and so on and so on.

                Why is Elden Ring so primitive by comparison? Whats the point of being open world if so sterile? Its 2022 now. And 2017's BotW still plays like a game from the future.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Why is Elden Ring so primitive by comparison? Whats the point of being open world if so sterile? Its 2022 now. And 2017's BotW still plays like a game from the future.
                Because the best open world games valued content over sandboxy shit that I can find in Just Cause 2 (that does it way better than BoTW btw). If I wanted to turn my brain off and frick around, I would play a sandbox, if I want adventure kino where i'm fricking up a variety of monsters/dragons/giants/ogres in everything from caves/catacombs/castles/hellscapes etc then i'll boot up Elden Kino.

                But hey, Link gets hurt by fire, this somehow makes me want to do Shrine #65 or find Korok Seed #842

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >i'll boot up Elden Kino.

                KEK'D you do that. Go play that inferior game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Which youtube channel poll is this

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Which youtube channel poll is this

                The general opinion of everyone. You only have your own head-canon to comfort yourself.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The general opinion of everyone.
                I'm not seeing that channel anywhere, can you link me to them?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Who cares about some fire, autist

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            both games just focus too much in one element botw in the overworld and ss in the dungeons
            botw focused in the overworld interaction and ss in the combat. ss kinda failed there since the hardware wasn't good enough and the idea wasn't executed well enough

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want BotW2 to have large scale dungeons you can stumble upon out in the open instead of that lame shrine and divine beast bullshit. That was the one thing ER did right.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day Arthur.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    botw and er both being successful and critically acclaimed has mindbroken this board i mean i don't say those are perfect games but the amount of salt is crazy

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >every open world game is a zelda clone alth open world games were poping up as early as 2006
      >Has to add genshit and upishit games to his pic
      Was witcher 3 BoTW clone too despite coming out earlyer than BoTW?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure, I think that anon's seethe got the best of him. His post makes little sense.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Makes sense to me?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How so? The picture seems pretty clear to me. I think that anon misunderstod it. The seethe has robbed him of his ability to read.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It claims that every open world game is a BoTW clone, but annon clearly stated that such games existed way before BoTW came out? What not to understand?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry for your brain!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That is just an tendie cope, on a tendie s.o.y wojack meme, if you take such crap as factual, you should check your brain

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Who actually does that outside of BoTW fanboys?

                What's this thread about again? Because to me it looks like someone who can't stop comparing elden ring to botw for some reason.
                Was this thread made by a tendie?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically yes, one tendie in particular

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Probably, or by someone who sees how good is Elden Ring and wants other games, like lets say the next Elder Scrolls, Zelda, Dragons Dogma, e.t.c to learn from its greatness.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The picture makes no such claim. It simply shows how the people who stated how unoriginal and basic and not innovative botw is can't stop comparing every new open world game to it for some reason.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Who actually does that outside of BoTW fanboys?

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >BoTW thread without zelda coomershit in the OP
    >404s in 30 posts
    >BoTW thread with Elden Ring in the title
    >432 posts, page 1

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it, why do you think that's funny?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because elden ring is superior to botw threads as shown here.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Is it though?
          This is an Elden Ring thread that needed botw, a five year old game, to take off.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >go to a Elden Ring tread, its ER players discussing the game, no
            >go to a BoTW tread, its seething at ER and trying to still be relevant
            >go to a tread about both (this tread) its Zelda players Shitting on ER and being butthurt that someone might have an idea how to better their game
            Now say which game is the one rent free in whose minds?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >go to a Elden Ring tread, its ER players discussing the game, no
              This is an ER thread and because of the anti-nintendo discord it's nothing but seething about zelda.
              >>go to a BoTW tread, its seething at ER and trying to still be relevant
              Botw threads only happen when people want to shitpost about zelda.
              >>go to a tread about both (this tread) its Zelda players Shitting on ER and being butthurt that someone might have an idea how to better their game
              This thread is predominantly Elden Ring players on the side of botw arguing with anti-tendies because they like both.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Don't you have a MH thread to shitpost?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the anti-nintendo discord
                Is there any proof of this existing or do you always assume anyone who goes against your own beliefs is part of some secret cabal

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Is there any proof of this existing
                Yes. There's a collection of discord posts floating about concerning forcing the souls and Zelda fanbases to fight because they hated that both overshadowed horizon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Give me a sec to find the others

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If only Horizon didnt lost relevancy a week after it got released...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That make literally zero mention of Nintendo or BoTW lmfao. How fricking mentally ill are you to read that and think "they're trying to put Zelda fans against Fromsoft fans!".

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can delete this post now. Told you to wait.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, you've provided one homosexual discord guy who mentions BoTW/Elden ring, literally one user, with no link to the discord, archives, nothing. In fact, this image here

                Give me a sec to find the others

                unironically debunks your claim because it shows numerous users essentially "shazamposting" BoTW showing that this discord raid is generic shazamposting. Just because you have pictures of one homosexual that mentioned BoTW isn't proof of shit, if anything, it looks like a falseflag

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is real

                This is fake

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They're both real.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >bro there's a discord raid
                >"Ok, provide proof"
                >err, how about this discord picture?
                >"It doesn't mention BoTW at all, or Nintendo, in fact, it mentions Cyberpunk 2077 and looks like basic Shazam shitposting"
                >err, here's another of this one random dude who made a poll as well!

                Nice discord """""raid"""""" bro

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Any other screenshots of this "anti-tendie" discord? Preferably made around october 2021.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Preferably made around october 2021.
                I'm digging these out of the archive but that's specific, any reason why?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/574666898/#574685705
                Because I looked at the archive for mentions of this discord and I saw a post made before those screenshots were created.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                LMFAO

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, people just threw it around willy nilly before to explain the mass amounts of Nintendo shitposting on Ganker it wasn't a serious thing people considered until the screenshots came out connecting the zelda and ER shitposters.
                Normally I would have discarded it but there's just too much here to say it's fake.

                Hell this anon

                >bro there's a discord raid
                >"Ok, provide proof"
                >err, how about this discord picture?
                >"It doesn't mention BoTW at all, or Nintendo, in fact, it mentions Cyberpunk 2077 and looks like basic Shazam shitposting"
                >err, here's another of this one random dude who made a poll as well!

                Nice discord """""raid"""""" bro

                in particular is doing exactly what was said.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Eh, people just threw it around willy nilly
                Yea we know, you're doing it right now, you're pastebin literally doesn't mention Nintendo or BoTW again, it's just shazamposting.

                So far, you've provided 3 images, two of which didn't involve Nintendo or BoTW and 1 had literally 1 homosexual bring Nintendo/BoTW up. This isn't the conspiracy your victim complex tendie brain thinks it is buddeh

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Four images, the last one you fit to a t.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not an argument, provide proof. All you've provided is shazamgays in a discord and one post that even mentioned Nintendo.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Not an argument, provide proof
                You are the proof, you're acting in accordance with the posts. If you had any sense then you would have been more subtle about it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                everything you've provided proves that it's shazamhomosexuals shitting up Elden Ring, i've seen no evidence of a Nintendo hate discord i anything you've provided unless you think one user constitutes an entire discord to some sort of "forced rivalry" between from/nintendo

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Posted the wrong image

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Go to the actual ER tread, no mention of zelda, this is just a shitposting tread

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >this is just a shitposting tread
                The usual for this game. I haven't seen a genuine botw thread since it came out.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is Zelda actually relevant other than for shitposting now?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You get some comfy threads for the older games, but they can also easily go to shit unfortunately. The fanbase is eating itself on top of it already being a target for trolls.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't you just proving this guy right? [...]

                Make a BoTW thread right now with no coomer bait in the OP or mention of BoTW.

                Prove us wrong tendie, it'll hit page 10 quicker than Elden Ring made Nintendo cancel BoTW2

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine thinking a Soulsborne game of any kind, especially the most popular one by far, needs a game that can't even maintain a general over on /vg/ or thread where the OP is Zeldas fat ass to remain active in order to "take off".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >a game that can't even maintain a general over on /vg/
              a series*
              Zelda just really has nothing to talk about, even the regular "Zelda girls" threads are running on fumes at this point

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >because they were gonna get bam a ham yum'd at the awards
    Do people actually think that devs and publishers delay games for entire years, just to game these award shows?

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guarantee you the hook of BOTW2 is that at some point, you unlock the ability to fly seamlessly between the sky and surface worlds.
    In other words, Aonuma wants to redeem his failure with Skyward Sword (which only let you cross over at specific gates with a loading screen). Except this is insanely difficult to pull off, even moreso on the Switch, hence all the delays

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Doubt it. Wouldn't be surprised if the two are separated for design reasons. Even for botw being able to glide from near anywhere a mile up is pushing it when it comes to how easy it would be to skip challenges like the path to zora's domain.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In that case it would pair well with a return to more enclosed dungeons.

        If flying seamlessly was the goal then the floating islands would be visible from the overworld, instead they're going to be instanced like Divine Beast interiors were

        How do you know it's a separate instance as opposed to the distant regions just being completely unloaded when far away (like everything else in these pop-in ass games)?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If flying seamlessly was the goal then the floating islands would be visible from the overworld, instead they're going to be instanced like Divine Beast interiors were

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      none of this will matter if combat is just as braindead and boring as BOTW1 btw.

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >watch nothing even remotely close to video essays
    >open up youtube
    >"THE REAL TRAGEDY BEHIND [VIDEOGAME]"
    >62 hours long
    >probably points out the most obvious shit but does so over the course of a three-day long video
    just leave me alone I'm trying to watch documentaries and 2000's reality show clips

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda sisters, not like that...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't you just proving this guy right?

      >go to a Elden Ring tread, its ER players discussing the game, no
      This is an ER thread and because of the anti-nintendo discord it's nothing but seething about zelda.
      >>go to a BoTW tread, its seething at ER and trying to still be relevant
      Botw threads only happen when people want to shitpost about zelda.
      >>go to a tread about both (this tread) its Zelda players Shitting on ER and being butthurt that someone might have an idea how to better their game
      This thread is predominantly Elden Ring players on the side of botw arguing with anti-tendies because they like both.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You think Elden Ring will be getting daily 500+ posts 6 years from now like BotW?

      Seething.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, yes, it's a Fromsoft game which is more popular than any other franchise on Ganker, even Smash is only a "seasonal" thing. The entire Zelda general lasted what? 1 year? You can't even make a BoTW thread without coomer bait or "Elden Ring" in the OP nowadays because it'll 404 before 50 posts.

        But go ahead, prove me wrong

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't even make a BoTW thread without coomer bait or "Elden Ring" in the OP nowadays because it'll 404 before 50 posts.

          You posted this nonsense claim since Feb and get BTFO endlessly. Your seething over BotW - aka THE GOAT - is hilarious.

          Maybe one day Fromsoft will make a game as good as BotW. Maybe.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don't act like Dark Souls wasn't getting 500+ post threads for years either

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They weren't, the closest thing toto that was the time that sonygay kept on shilling bloodborne.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >They weren't
            Literally blind or purposely revisionist

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Or I've been here longer than you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why would that make any sense if the claim was about more recent 500+ threads? If someone was here for less time and saw them then that would validate what they were trying to argue

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo has splatoon 3 and a new pokemon for the rest of the year. Seems to me like they just wanted to spread their catelog out. Didnt the xeno 3 date get pushed forward at around the same time too? Hell, apparently theyre sitting on a near conplete fire emblem game to wait for the right time too.

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bullshit from youtuber bait
    >elden ring can't even compare to breath of the wild less alone breath of the wild 2.
    kek.

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kys arthur

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