Epic Games CEO says AI companies shouldn't be 'hoovering up everybody's art data'

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's actually kind of based, if true.
    I will now install EGS for the free games, thank you based Timmy!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I still don't want the CCP spyware, thank you.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what's hoover?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      its what ur mom does to to your dads dick while ur sleeping

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      underage

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      *WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      31st president of the united states

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's a dam. He means he doesn't want companies blocking the average joe with an AI from freely using art he found on the internet.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A vacuum company. What he is saying is that the computer AI is basing its renditions off of other people's art.

      what about the costumer data little timmy

      This. Installing a Chinese botnet isn't worth the free games.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >What he is saying is that the computer AI is basing its renditions off of other people's art.
        Don't people do the exact same thing themselves?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't people do the exact same thing themselves?
          yes, but it's suddenly bad when AI does it because it puts them out of a job

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      America's national dog. Hoover's putting on too much weight, so Tim-san is telling everyone too stop overfeeding him.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hoover balls

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's a weird west coast way to say hovering, for some reason they add an extra O because of the way they pronounce it in California.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      31st president of the united states

      It's a song

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's a reference to the hoover dam from the hit role playing game Fallout: New Vegas

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine you consoom so much you start using brand names for daily activities like vacuuming, that's hoovering.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        For me, it's "Kirbying". That way I get to reference to brands at once!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      J. Edgar (he was a troony)

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    indeed. if the AI companies' model is so sound, they can commission the art they need for their outputs without plagiarizing others' work and IP.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Actually they dont have to. There are shit tons of banks of images and illustrations without copyright. The difference is that it would take more time so they just stole everyone's artwork. Which we can discuss is not even stealing because human artists also take inspiration from other works of art.

      The "they are infringing my copyrights" is just artist cope. They are salty the coomer eventually will just type what they want in an uncensored chatgp3 and get their coom dopamine for free. And they are scared. They dont give a shit about who used what shit on creating a new technology, they are afraid of the technology.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Saying the "program is just inspired, like an artist" is actually brain damaged. I don't care about copyright, it's the argument itself that bothers me. Artificial neural networks are inspired by brains but do not even try to simulate them according to current knowledge and make no claim of functioning in exactly the same manner. They empirically very clearly do not, based on both input-output relations and internal state. There is absolutely no reason why we should consider an ANN to be "merely inspired" while we consider a compiler to perform a mechanical conversion - if we accept this argument, then a binary is merely inspired by the source code.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >do not even try to simulate them according to current knowledge
          if they tried to simulate your brain they'd commit suicide before doing anything else

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Big Sweeney sticking up for artists' property rights

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Guess again.
      Sticking up for his future property rights*

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what about the costumer data little timmy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      BUT…UMMM.. WE ASK PERMISSION WHEN YOU AGREE TO THE ToS!!!
      >WE LIVE IN MONKEY WORLD

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No worries bro, it's only about UT!

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    good luck stopping chinks

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What, is he gonna launch an Epic platform for that too?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Funny coming from the guy selling your data to the Chinese. Epic still allows AI art on arstation as well.

    also

    >Rivalry with Gaben ended. Emad ist new rival now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      All companies sell data to China because all companies sell data to third parties who then sell data to the government and anyone interested

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      with Gaben ended. Emad ist new rival now.
      Just wait until Gaben says something similar and he'll do a 180.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >arstation
      Hold on, it belongs to Epic?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, sadly.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Some things are starting to make sense now

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Look at the leftmost picture of the third row
          Its implying AI art is racist, this is your camp anti AI homosexuals lmao

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          > UV and Retopo pls
          This homie knows what's up

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Are those databases that AI programs use to make art public? How would an artist know if their art got used to make AI generated images?
    I think both can co-exist, but I don't think it's weird to not want your art to be used without permission.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stable diffusion at least comes with an excel sheet with names of thousands of artists that have been used in training

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He owns Artstation which allows AI art generated from stolen data. Eat glass you bald ugly homosexual.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's not stolen when it's freely available on the internet.
      if a person copies someone else's artstyle that's also not stealing.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Watch him move the goalpost now to 'ethics' and 'morals'

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          or worse the "its a machine so its not the same" cope

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People generally don't get mad when a human copies an art style because it still requires effort and there are still differences due to person's unique quirks.
        Nobody really expected an attempt to fully automate one if mist humanistic activities.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you still replying to the bot that's made the exact same posts for months?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because I'm a moron who doesn't keep up with news

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >hoovering
    KWAB

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you can't let your AI model train on our image okay? you just can't even if I can't tell you why it's copyright infringement.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ehhh…it’s complicated innit?
    Dont most artists take “inspiration “ from art thats out there already?
    The ai does the same thing but more direct, but the outcome isn’t 1:1 though…right? Haven’t kept up with ai so far but i doubt it can trully mimic shit like Amano.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's never 1 to 1, ever. There have been some twitter c**ts who used the image 2 image functionality in an attempt to discredit the AI process, but they were called out fairly quick. These c**ts are salty as frick and will do anything it takes to see AI art destroyed permanently at this point

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      see

      It's never 1 to 1, ever. There have been some twitter c**ts who used the image 2 image functionality in an attempt to discredit the AI process, but they were called out fairly quick. These c**ts are salty as frick and will do anything it takes to see AI art destroyed permanently at this point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I saw that since it was a direct reply, thanks anon.
        So yeah i like ai art, its just more honest from which style it takes inspiration from.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      homie, that take is so moronic nobody even uses it anymore.

      They literally said their music AI won't use copyrighted music in the database because they know the AI copies shit, and can sometimes copy shit verbatim.

      They don't apply that to artwork because they can grab investor money while they still get away with it, when obviously the same standard applies.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. They don't want to risk a lawsuit is why, as the music industry is ultra israelited and go after anyone even making a somewhat similar tune to whatever pop trash they signed off on already. Hence the not so recent katy perry bs case

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >They literally said their music AI won't use copyrighted music in the database because they know the AI copies shit, and can sometimes copy shit verbatim.
        the music industry, and disney, have the biggest grip on copyright laws
        the ai wont use copyrighted music because even tho the music industry has not yet, it will eventually mold the new laws regarding this shit in a way that its in the favor of big studios
        and until that happens any company doing ai using cpyrighted music will just sued to oblivion against the kinda money they cant win
        image based copyright is way less loose online

        timmy taking this stance is probably him figuring he also just has something to loose from this tech being developed

      • 1 year ago
        Starving artist

        >They literally said their music AI won't use copyrighted music in the database because they know the AI copies shit, and can sometimes copy shit verbatim.
        This this this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The ai does the same thing but more direct, but the outcome isn’t 1:1 though…right? Haven’t kept up with ai so far but i doubt it can trully mimic shit like Amano.
      ai recognizes details (like how google lens does) traces those recognized details (eg. lines or how shading is applied on an eye from an angle) compresses the hell out of these details till they are pretty much just noise so it can store shitloads of traced details like these in it's library, and when it tries to create a picture it assembles an image from fitting details while also using upscaling, blurring, filtering, warping etc. on them to make them look seamless. It will still result in a lot of cursed art and fricked up details but you can keep regenerating until you come across something random that looks good enough to share.
      This is also why it can't actually redraw the same character in slightly different angles or poses (like during animations) without each frame looking like the details are slightly different in each frame, because it has to find new fitting details instead of the ai actually knowing how to draw the things it portrays

      AI is still tracing, even if the details are used from so many sources and even filtered where it's hard to recognize where each detail was lifted from.
      It can produce pictures that look good at a first glance, but you should keep in mind that if an ai art has a really nice detail (eg a beautiful eye or breasts or lines in general) it was just lifted from another real artwork where that detail likely looked much more fitting. This is why AI art currently has no real use and why you can't copyright it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its not tracing at all
        its the exact same thing a real artist does
        try and replicate art
        compare to see what you did right and wrong
        try again
        and eventually they can draw from memory

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >its not tracing at all its the exact same thing a real artist does try and replicate art compare to see what you did right and wrong try again and eventually they can draw from memory

          That's just how it's detail assembling part works, but it still does this with traced details. It is recognizing details from pictures and saving them in an ultracompressed noisy sate, then recreates these details where they are needed.

          It doesn't know how to draw, it just has shitloads big library of details it can apply where needed and tweak them to make them more seamless and this is what it "learned".
          Again, this is why ai can't draw the same character in a different angle correctly, it won't use it's logic to twist the details it "knows" how to draw in 3d and draw them like that (like how an artist would), it will just try finding a new set of details from it's library that are fitting for this slightly different angle and look close enough to the original, but in the end they will still look noticably different since they aren't the same (like every frame of ai animation does (unless it is literally just tracing eg live footage and is more focused on applying filters, in which case this will likely be less noticable)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            that's the same thing your brain does when you look at something and draw it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I suggest you look up how ML actually works, as there is no "tracing" being done at any step in the process. The images are trained by way of a reward system, and through iterations, as results are fine-tuned from eldritch abominations to results that are preferred. Images are produced FROM noise, not tracings at any step.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don't waste your breath. You're likely replying to a shill bot.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >still repeating "a computer copying data is the same as a human inspiration" bullshit
      Who do you shills expect to believe this shit?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If the output is very close to one of the training images, then the model is experiencing overfitting, meaning that it wasn't trained properly. The opposite of that is underfitting, where the output doesn't resemble the training data at all.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Tim was always /ourguy/ and it's ridiculous how some sneaky shills convinced the entire board and half of the internet that bigger taxes on game distribution is a good thing for the consumers. Like how fricking desperately do you need to ignore basic economics to convince yourself that higher middle man taxes of any kind have no negative effects on the consumer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That was never the element that people disliked, and you know that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >That was never the element that people disliked, and you know that
        Lol, it was an element that drones like you deliberately ignored and you know that, even though it was literally the whole fricking point behind Tim making EGS from the beginning. He even talked about the issue of pointlessly high digital distribution taxes years before

        You were also always pushing this hypocrite bullshit where you were both pretending that Tim just made EGS out of greed while also pretending that his low taxes are unsustainable just to defend Valve's pointless greed. Not even mentioning all the "spy program" gaslighting with you making up or just circlejerking with literal lies

        Congratulation, thanks to you drones middle man companies will keep taxing 1/3 of gaming revenue for no fricking reason other than because they can get away with it. Hope it was worth it so you can keep using those glorious steam features. Oh wait, you don't, nobody does, because everyone is just already using superior free alternatives for fricking anything steam offers. You morons were literally just too paranoid of losing the convenience of not having to click on a different launcher every now and then

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Stop kissing Tim's ass, you autistic frick. This is the same guy who advocates that consumers shouldn't review the games they buy so as not to harm the corporations. They only added a star review system after a lot of pressure, and even then it's all controlled to avoid "review bombings", i.e., it's one more of the endless examples of Autistic Tim allying himself with corporations against the interests of consumers because he has the business vision of a blind mule.
          And the games are starting to be released for $70 on Epic as well. Curious, no? Apparently leaving a higher proportion of money in the hands of the publishers doesn't reflect in lower prices because games aren't commodities or some shit like that whose price is determined purely by the laws of supply and demand.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not that simple. Just because Epic taxes developers less than Steam does not inherently guarantee that the developer will lower the price of their final product. It also doesn't help that their storefront is slow, laggy and miss a ton of features users have gotten used to from Steam (the store they want to compete with), or that their store searched for steam folders when running (allegedly they don't do this anymore.)
      But the real shot to the foot was Epic making exclusivity deals, which really pissed people off, and is inherently anti-consumer.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you for that statement Mr. Sweeny CEO of Epic GAMES

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to this it'll never be used in big companies and it's a good thing.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    NO NO NO BUT I OWN IT I OWN THE IMAGE I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SELL IT AND IT SHOULD BE DISPLAYED IN GALLERIES AS WELL

    H-huh? Copyright issues? Plagiarism? Ummmm... what if I just lie? What if I never say that a computer made it? Surely that will evade copyright law, right? (Actual argument that was used in AI threads btw)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >What if I never say that a computer made it?
      All digital art is the same photoshop garbage anyway.
      I only respect traditional artists.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I remember back in the early 2000s on DeviantART there would be so, so many newbie artists imitating the exact artstyle of the few popular artists, and it still happens even today.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >(Actual argument that was used in AI threads btw)
      most likely a strawman posted by yourself
      Sad!

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >boomer seethes because he didn't invest at the right time
    he should offer more free games to attract kids to his platform

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally no different from me downloading shitloads of porn off the internet or me downloading wallpapers from DA.
    That sperg is just virtue signalling for reddit points.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The data is not hoovered up. No data has been taken away from a source.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    *Yawn*...another moron who has no concept of AI art generation.

    >please artists stop using references...or tracing, that's like 80% of Patreon's "artists"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >please artists stop using references
      Using references still involves you doing all the work, something that doesn't apply to AI "artists"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Using references is about reducing the ammount of work just like an AI

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tell me you never painted anything without telling me you never painted anything in your life lmao. There is no art without reference, that's a myth created by morons like yourself that have never produced any kind of artwork.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's not that complicated

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Epic gets on the trend of condemning AI art
    >Epic immediately opens up a division dedicated to AI art while everybody buys into the misdirection

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, Timmy switching sides every other day, just recently he was all for the cutting edge AI to empower the little man.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally who?

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh Epic Games wants someone else to stop sucking, that's rich.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't this c**t just stop seething to anything? Is he secretely trans or something?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >noooooo those 1s and 0s I willingly uploaded belong to me! You can't use them with your 1s and 0s to make new 1s and 0s!
    abolish all copyright law

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You never made anything in your life and want everything handed to you on a platter, zoomie

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >abolish all copyright law
      moron tier opinion, probably a chinese perosn that thrives on stealing people's work because they re autistic/low emotions/schizo pattern recognition and their creativity is terrible

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's over you homosexual. The tech to copy creative works exists now and China is the new great power in the world. Create all the stupid laws you want you're still gonna burn.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it doesn't though, artists will always be needed. this is only for making cheap filler garbo (which is a pretty good thing). but for s tier shit you ll always need artists who spent leir life mastering their craft

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Brotherman, have you not seen the progress alone from google Dreams to our current situation? It's unironically only a question of time now before it can give you exactly what you want to see.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              no it's not. any technology has diminishing returns and will be progressively increasingly be bottlenecked by the laws of physics, resources available. making random stuff is extremely easy but to make stuff with intent, message and harmony, with the signature of the artists, we re talkign near infinite patterns to make. ain't not one got the computing power for that shit, nor the training available. you won't travel solar system, you won't become immoral. because god's laws prevent it. at some point it becomes so difficult that practically you have to admit it's just never gonna happen. but trying has some benefits so enjoy yourself, not everyone needs to have the same beliefs about everything especially secondary shit like this

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't apeic games chinese now? Never ever trust anything coming from China

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    extremely based
    it's kind of surprising how mesmerized people are by AI and they're overlooking the fact that it's basically just all stolen art composited together by a calculator. AI cannot create anything truly beautiful. The AI e-girl is a deformed mockery of the beauty of a hand-drawn e-girl. AI futa wieners are misshapened beyond recognition, to the point where I can't even jerk off that often to it. We are losing our sense of beauty and our sense of truth.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >nooo nooooo muh super artistic soulful furry porn jobs!
      >ai can't create anything good looking!
      which is it homosexual?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >AI cannot create anything truly beautiful
      >goes on to talk about e-girl and futa
      For a moment there I thought you were going to talk about something with actual cultural worth, but no.

      The real masterworks of centuries or millennia old are already freely available anyway, so it doesn't really matter how anti-AI tards feel about modern slop being scooped up by the algorithm along with everything else. You art isn't worth "protecting" as much as you think.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >how mesmerized people are by AI and they're overlooking the fact that it's basically just all stolen art composited together by a calculator
      Every artist learns from other art, means that by definition every artist steals art

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If art were inherently unoriginal we'd still be smearing wet mud on cave walls.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No, because art is recursive

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            And original apparently

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >mud painting
              >mud painting + berries
              >mud painting + berries on tree
              >berries on tree bark
              none of these things are spontaneous either, the "original idea" comes from training data (observation). we can learn about berries staining shit while trying to feed ourselves and not make art.
              we just have more variety in training data and are tasked with using that to do more than one thinh and can take data from unrelated tasks and share it. an AI today can only apply data to a singular task. if an AI can freely generate art, or drive a car, or make audio, or tell a story all with the same process and share that freely it will start to be more "original"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are we still painting berry trees with mud?

                >if an AI can freely generate art,
                That "if" is what I'm talking about, hypothetically (and imho probably) AI art can exist in the future but the current generative models are just an advanced form of collage.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That aside from 26 fingers, is so well composited you can’t tell. Artist will finally starve the rest of the way.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Are we still painting berry trees with mud?
                ????
                Zoom out.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Do artists not look at colors,faces, scenery ? those cave paintings you say are recreations of things they saw or heard about
          You know why high art has devolved on shit stains on walls,toilets,etc instead of intricate baroque paintings? because the philosophy of art caught up with the fact that originality is impossible and that information buck broke the minds of artists into trying desperate meassures to try and come up with something original
          You're now experiencing amateur artists getting buck broken by that same reality and even harder because they are being given proof of how worthless they are
          Dont post a glasses wearing pepe if you are going to post dumb shit like that

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >caught up with the fact
            *the belief, and if you're going to full ackshually you shouldn't act like 1875-1925 art was monolithic.
            >Do artists not look at colors,faces, scenery ?
            What does the Sistine ceiling recreate?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >belief
              FACT unless you have irrefutable proof that magic is real and human brains function out of magic, the philosophers that came to understand that fact did it with a fraction of the information about the human brain as we have now but their observations and logical conclussion was not a simple belief
              >What does the Sistine ceiling recreate?
              Looks like human bodies to me, did Michelangelo invent humans ?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Looks like human bodies to me, did Michelangelo invent humans ?

                But how were the human bodies arranged? Have you had AI drawing a crowd of people? Let me tell you, that shit doesn't end well.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you afraid of AI art then?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Different anon, genius. I'm just chiming in AI may be able to generate the bodies but if you tell it what to do with them, it won't always carry and some might not be generated properly.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                but the point is, ai can be improved, and eventually will be better
                of course it sucks NOW, shit's barely a few years old, what matters is the future

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >but the point is, ai can be improved, and eventually will be better
                Yes, a lot of us know that.
                We're only talking about what we've seen and experienced. No sense praising something for what hasn't happened yet or what developments have yet to surface but will someday.

                Someday we'll have graphene CPUs that can run a 12THz but what's the point in saying that when it hasn't happened yet?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                because, following current trends, it WILL happen
                in less than 30 years, even

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Where did Michelangelo see precisely what he replicated (not "created")?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The mythical world of outside, where humans congregate in numbers and there is enough data to train your brain on how they look and act
                And the bible, a text that describes some scenes containing the above

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >see precisely
                Try again.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You dont understand how machine learning or human learning works at all
                Where did chatgtp see precisely the answer of your little sister's english homework?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In various text sources

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                But it didnt saw the exact same text and copy pasted, it created something new using those various text sources
                There is your answer

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >it created something
                As did Michelangelo, there is your answer.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                so all creations are unoriginal then

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No, all creations are original in some aspect. Hence "creation".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >in some aspect
                then they aren't original
                and the part that isn't, then it's taken from another different source so still unoriginal

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Evidently new art, stories etc. are created all the time, if you want to call them categorically unoriginal then congratz on winning a moronic argument of philosophy 101 semantics.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're arguing semantics because you lost the argument
                Call it COMPOSING instead of creating then

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Michelangelo can't "compose" images out of text, dummy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Again semantics lol
                Gonna start pointing out typos next?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's the other way around, my point is that you can call the process creation, composition, "data process" (le brain pc meme lol) or whatever, it requires to make something new because it's not there yet, it's that simple.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Let me break it down to you
                >You see a tree
                >You see the color red
                >You imagine a red tree
                Thats not originality

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It is if the tree differs from the one in my memory.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They are original in the sense that the permutation is new. Things cannot be created, only changed and combined. But every AI image is a novel permutation in that same way

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If by "change and combine" you mean not just already existing art but also experiences, things you saw personally etc. then I agree.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes. and a machine can eventually do that too. its only using one type of data now. eventually it will be 2, then 4, then 8 at an exponential rate. to say humans have an unemulatable soul is just narcicisstic romanticism. we arent there yet, but there is no stronghold of humanity.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but imho the big next step is AI that can create art without human guidance/input.

                Generally speaking I find the recent "AI" (not really AI) image generatives boring but I'm very interested in genuine AI art once it gets there.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              People and everything in the observable universe. Even God is just an old man. Did you know the camera obscura isn’t just a fatal frame weapon but in fact a for the time advance tracing tool? Thats right, a lot of that “art” you love so much was still just tracing. Turns out the reason artist screech about tracing is because thats how they do it but want to pretend like they are better than you. Get fricked art gay, make me my cheese burger wienersucker.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Did Diefenbach trace this?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Probably, he didn’t just imagine trees and seeing objects in clouds.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry to inform you that fairy clouds aren't real

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Neither are lion clouds in the sky Black person. It isn’t original, kids do it every day.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                People are real. Fire is real. Smoke is real. Aurora is real. All supernatural concepts are just mental mashups of things in nature. AI mashes existing things together to make a new thing in the same way.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >mash existing things together to make a new thing
                Art in a nutshell.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You can't imagine a tree?!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >aigays are such NPCs they can't imagine trees

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you can't imagine trees, the only reason you can picture one in your mind is because you've seen one already, either described or through an image/photo, maybe looked at one once

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you can't imagine a tree that isn't a 1:1 copy of a memory of a tree then you're unironically mentally challenged.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nice cope, pajeet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you can't imagine trees
                ai shills are really this stupidly desperate

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Can you imagine something that has properties unlike anything you have ever seen?
                Lovecraft sure couldnt and he tried

                It is if the tree differs from the one in my memory.

                You're fricking moronic mate, you have seen TRILLIONS of trees, real,drawn, plastic from different angles, contortions ,lighting, hell the TRILLIONS may be too low of an estimate
                You can put together some surreal looking trees from that information alone and thats not it you can combine other data into your mental image of a tree, giving it wieners for branches and fire for leafs as an example that still is not originality everything you imagine you have already seen

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Lovecraft sure couldnt and he tried
                You need to read more books

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                how's that gout going, hume? you fat frick

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, he looked at some trees and imagined it in his mind and the added some people shapes blended with smoke shapes which is basically tracing by AI standards

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So even a broken clock is right twice a day huh.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He's literally backtracking now that more people and more institutions are filling lawsuits against AI companies.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's an ongoing strike in my country over VAs getting mogged by AI (other than, you know, getting paid like shit).
    I am literally praying it destroys the US voice acting market, though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I hate all these people. They're getting in the way of the perfect AI future because they're greedy prostitutes no different from Hollywood israelites like the RIAA

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > the perfect AI future

        Pods that jerk you off for only 1000 usd/week the rent, and bugs that taste like chocolate if you use the right VR headsets.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But this will bottleneck art because people will stop making art and AI won't have new concepts to pull from.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          New concepts such as...? More DeviantArt furry inflation porn? MLP trash? Maybe some of that tumblr-tier red nose garbage?
          The fact of the matter is that the artists whining about AI either already ape other popular artists, or produce absolute dogshit "art" that not even AI engines want to include in their models

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >there is nothing new to create
            there have always been idiots that think this and they re always proven wrong

            art luddites

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              There is nothing new under the sun. Everyone apes each other and claim originality. You also didn't answer the question

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                indeed nothing new under the sun. humans keep making new things, and some narcissistic ignorants who think the changes that have been constantly happening before them will stop happening after them because they re SPECIAL and the world ends at them. far from everything has been made because everything is a hell lot. I answered the question because interesting new concepts will be made, regardless of you denying it or not

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, but holy shit, anon. I could prompt an AI to argue against the use of AI and I bet the result would have made more sense than your incoherent rambling.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          People deep down want to spend their limited time and money on artistry, AI is not art, this is a very simple thing AI users refuse to believe when people tell them and understand when explained to.

          AI has zero artistic value so its ever only used as background for some sort of art form, eg. You made a soundcloud album of music and need a nice cover, nobody will bother you for using AI art for it, You want character portraits for your RPG with friends, AI is a good use, You write long fapfics and want a cover for it? you will be more appreciated if you use real art, but AI art can be used because the actual art is your writing not the image.

          AI art is to be used where artistry in the IMAGE is not important, but that's a thing AI gays will never accept.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >AI art is to be used where artistry in the IMAGE is not important
            THIS

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              This is what is going to happen: corporations doing whatever the frick they want while fricking over the people in every possible way.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            > A banana taped to a wall can be art
            > But AI is not because it-it just can't!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's funny that it's human beings themselves making the best argument in favor of AI to get us out of this cultural rut we find ourselves in. There's so, so, so much fricking mediocrity (or even worse than that) and generic shit being targeted at either mainstream or niche audiences, that the advent of AI cannot possibly be worse than what we have now. That's how bad things have gotten.

              Even something as essential as having a dialogue with someone is difficult. At least a fricking chatbot has an attention span, whereas people are largely judgemental dickheads or just stare at you (that is if you're lucky enough and they aren't just looking down at their phones) with a dumb look in their faces about any subject that is remotely difficult or complicated.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Based n this
                >Hear about ai winning an art contest with a large amount of people
                >Turns out the other contestants were just that garbage

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This whole post reeks exactly of who is clamoring for the proliferation of AI. It's the socially outcast nerd who had a difficult time socializing with "normalgays". And my heart goes out to you anon, because most people are difficult to converse with. But inside that contention you will find intellectual discussions if you seek it in the right places. I want you to give it a try instead of throwing it out the window in favor an emotionless string of numbers emulating a human's mind which cannot be replicated or forged.

                This post was written by an AI.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          False, AI art can't be copyrighted so if anyone wants to actually own their art they will need to do the work themselves.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >opens AI image in photoshop and adds a few alterations
            there, all ready for my copyright 🙂

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What country? Ai va work sound more authentic in another language?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >EGS thread AND and AI thread
    Good morning, sirs

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pajeets are making so much money from AI art. It's the new bitcoin and boomers are too dumb to understand prompts that's why they'd rather shut down everything.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Tim Sweeny pushes NFT shit then pretends he didn't
    >Tim Sweeny pushes AI shit then pretends he didn't
    Kek

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good morning sirs

      This guy is the antichrist of videogames.

      lmao the troons are so blatant

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine defending the most anti-consumer and anti-developer company in all gaming
        what a homosexual

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          nah frick timmy and frick jeets
          i'm just pointing out the discordtroons that keep making 2 kinds of posts. it's either
          >PAJEETSPAJEETSPAJEETS
          or
          >AI IMAGES ARE JUST LIKE NFTS BECAUSE.... THEY JUST ARE OKAY?????
          seriously look at this shit

          Looks like the ai pajeet shills are back. Did they get upset at the 2 threads in the catalog mocking nfts?

          Rajeesh, may Shiva curse you, report to central management, it was my turn to make the thread.

          DO NOT REDEEM THE CARD

          you can instantly tell when xir enters the thread

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Stop shitting in your streets, Radesh

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This homosexual always sides with the establishment, never with the consumer, as an anon noted in another thread.
    The only way to "defend" your art is to never publish it. If your talent, ideas, style, has any value, then people will learn from it and replicate it, either manually or using tools to do so.
    AIs are going to represent a huge opportunity for the consumer to get something cheaper, or sometimes for free, that before they had to pay a lot or wait forever to get it in their hands. Autistic Tim sees this as a risk, because he fails to understand that the idea of business is to please the consumer, not to keep him in a position of inferiority and ignorance as Autistic Tim does when he even lets players write review about the games they buy from his shitty store.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good morning sirs

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hey troony, how's the 'cord?

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This guy is the antichrist of videogames.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like the ai pajeet shills are back. Did they get upset at the 2 threads in the catalog mocking nfts?

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He is playing both sides. He will try to shut down the western access to data collection knowing that his tencent backing can get him all the shit from china. So he will be the only one left with a viable product.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Does anything he say have any weight behind it? I mean, he's no Elon Musk

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Elon is a vaporware seller. Tim actually sells something and has real value behind him, its just that he is pretending to be the underdog while being a massive force in the industry.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Elon was one of the people behind ChatGPT, and he's had a humongous amount of success in pretty much every field

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >one of the people
            He threw some money at it. Just like with most projects. Wanna talk about boring company? His solar tiles? His trucks? Mono rail tube shit? All failures that are not to be mentioned. Does he by pure chance occasionally fund projects that go somewhere? Sure, but i would not follow him as a sign of quality in a project.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Guy made pipe dream shit actually happen like SpaceX.
          Leftoids are just perma butthurt because he's a democrat but not a wokester

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Vaporware doesn't deliver supplies and American astronaut to the ISS.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Rajeesh, may Shiva curse you, report to central management, it was my turn to make the thread.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    DO NOT REDEEM THE CARD

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This lying homosexual was one of the biggest shills for any new scam and likes to pretend he didn't support them whenever the law gets involved or when a new fad flops.

    Anyways, good morning sirs.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, what a fricking gay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good morning sirs
      Please show bobs and vagene

      Stop shitting in your streets, Radesh

      don't worry sisters,
      this is strategy surely working and not making us look like desperate troons

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good morning sirs
    Please show bobs and vagene

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Its OK, Tim, those artists all probably clicked 'Agree' to something somewhere that said they were OK with other people harvesting their art and data anyway

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Everybody's already seen that, but way to out yourself as someone whose only been on Ganker for a maybe a year at most

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      keep going, xister!
      next post will surely be the one

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        DO NOT REDEEEEM NO!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you are so transparent
          tell me, how are AI image generators remotely the same as NFTs again?

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm against this, simply because I wanna see AI advance. Also training an AI should not be considered copyright infringement. That's like saying learning someone's technique is copyright infringement.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Translation:
    >we need regulatory capture so only companies with huge amounts of hoarded IP can benefit from AI content creation

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Love the "artists" using NFTBlack person arguments after mocking them for over a year

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd just like people to credit me, I'll make Art all day for AI people if they just gave me a credit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      For what? 3 or 4 pixels in a piece that had hundreds of artists behind its inspiration?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Picasso literally plagiarized aboriginal and african scratch "artists"
        >that'll be 4000.000.00.etc for one painting

        yeah...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Frankly, I can understand why some artists feel offended when they see AI generated artwork that is CLEARLY aping 100% of their artstyle, and some asshat claims that it's all "his" work because he put in some prompts. That shit is ridiculous. But if every single artist that had an influence on the final image had to be credited, the list would be longer than the prompt itself, and it wouldn't happen anyway, as the people who claim to be "prompters" and upload their AI produced art on sites like Artstation and Pixiv are specifically doing it to pass off as some kind of actual artist, as cringe as it is.

      I don't think there's anything wrong with the tech itself, as it is a fun novelty, but I really do despise people who act like they're now artists because they put in a prompt.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        precisely.
        I don't know how you would do it, but I just want some acknowledgement. I work very hard and the AI learned from me.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Listen bro, I'll be real with you— you won't get the recognition you desire, ever. At least not from the crowd that is using AI. Focus on your art and focus on those who appreciate what YOU make. Because regardless of how accessible AI art will become, there will still be plenty of people who will appreciate real artists.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why yesss, AI data and generation should be secure and hrrmm, ETHICAL, in our hands of course.

    Frick this fatso, praise the pajeet for releasing that stuff on open source.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. These companies are profiting off data they have no right to. Including things like Ganker shitposts. They don't have the right to make money off other people/companies owned data.

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Then do something about Artstation you moron, you bought the damn company

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He did. Artstation now allows artists to specify that their art shouldn't be used for training sets.

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nearly all recent games are either in Unity and UE, which makes them a great source for data for feeding AI. He should just datamine all UE games in order to destroy all competition with mass-produced games of dreams from a single prompt.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >voice TTS lets you use Joe Biden's voice to quote the YWNBAW pasta
    >"based"
    >image diffusion lets you generate pretty landscapes and porn with the click of a button
    >"burn it down, anyone who cares about this is either a shill or a street-shitting pajeet"
    Why are you guys like this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't actual Gankerners, they're a Discord that links these threads and has guidelines on how to respond to people here

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      People deep down want to spend their limited time and money on artistry, AI is not art, this is a very simple thing AI users refuse to believe when people tell them and understand when explained to.

      AI has zero artistic value so its ever only used as background for some sort of art form, eg. You made a soundcloud album of music and need a nice cover, nobody will bother you for using AI art for it, You want character portraits for your RPG with friends, AI is a good use, You write long fapfics and want a cover for it? you will be more appreciated if you use real art, but AI art can be used because the actual art is your writing not the image.

      AI art is to be used where artistry in the IMAGE is not important, but that's a thing AI gays will never accept.

      There is a difference between laughing at silly shit and admiring things done with care, skill and passion.

      I dont want all things to be treated like a shitpost, SOME things need to be good and done well.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      furry drawgays (mostly third worlders) will fricking starve and that is a good thing

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >another ai shilling thread
    The nft thread must've triggered the lurking indians and chinks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody cares about your Discord's NFT fetish, gayboy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The subject of the thread isn't NFTs, which is and always was a scam, much like shitcoins were

        Language models are also a scam. It won't be tool to tool to finally burry you in riches you low IQ third worlder.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick are you even saying? You calling anyone else a thirdie is pretty goddamn funny when you jabber on incoherently as often as you do

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          meds schizo

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The subject of the thread isn't NFTs, which is and always was a scam, much like shitcoins were

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >corporate shill backpedaling when the lawsuits start and people leave his platforms

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Based timmy, CORPORATIONS ARE OUR FRIENDS!
    Be right back, going to shove a probe up my ass with the other end streaming directly into xing ping ling ding's brain and langley's HQ

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >haha, just forget I was simping for the pajeet marketers, goy!

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    good morning, sirs

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who opposes AI art exposes themselves as a narccasistic philistine.

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the poo thread?
      Obligatory.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=cade_xTZeog

      Always medium.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=cade_xTZeog

      why do you keep posting this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        whitoids associate all new technology with Indians

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >noooo you can't just hoover all that art
    >

    [...]

    retrains their AI without using copyrighted art
    >>>>>>>it's exactly the same
    >>>>>>>

    [...]

    still whine about it

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Which one, Ganker?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I always have medium rare.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Any of it, who gives a frick. I swear this shit is the "pineapple on pizza" of the boomer era.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Always medium.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have yet to meet anyone who likes their steak blue.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Medium or medium rare.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Trick question. A real man only eats cow bones.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >rural area I grew up in had people eating their steaks well-done
      >was made to have a childhood of bad steaks
      Frick that bottom shit and anybody who likes it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Medium, if you enjoy drinking literal animal blood you are a caveman

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If you can't afford to tip... you can't afford to go and eat
      Tipping is not legally enforced, so I'm not doing it. The fact that your country doesn't want to pay you a minimum wage is not my problem.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing that these homosexuals leave out is if a worker doesn't get enough tips to make minimum wage for that day, the business has to make up the difference. They'll probably fire you instead for being a shitty worker, but oh well.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >if you can't afford to pay your employees you can't afford to run your restaurant

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Then increase the price of the most commonly purchased menu items a little.

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I look forward to the day Skynet happens.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the poo thread?
    Obligatory.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This video being posted 4 times in one thread is pretty good proof that someone in the anti-AI Discord told them to link it, only they weren't smart enough to see if the others did it first

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >post picture on twitter
    >picture gets scraped and used in an AI
    >"omg stealing!!"
    People really are that moronic, huh?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      At that point it makes more sense not to create anything.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, I say it just weeds out shitty artists just looking for a quick buck and allows those with talent to flourish.

        Not just artistic talent but a good creative mind as well. Once you git gud, you can effectively understand what is genuinely appealing to people and create that to garner a large following base.

        having an AI being able to spit out an image whenever you want is extremely useful, yes, but ultimately a good artist can never really be replaced due to the fact they'll be that unique.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's the perfect time to go physical. Art is not limited by shitty digital amime cartoons. Do the real stuff.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I want to agree, but my personal experiences in the music industry just make me shake my head. Maybe you are right, but I have never seen people make the "right" decision in regards to this type of tech.

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >nooooo don't use art to generate more art, that's immoral!
    don't give a frick
    gonna generate my waifus all day erry day
    simple as

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cute girl, anon

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Artists still pretending that they learnt art, in a bubble, with no direct influence from others work. Be it implicit or explicit.
    Time to adapt, the future started over a decade ago, and they were caught sleeping.

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    so all the AI haters were just chink shills

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    isn't AI art copyright-free? if so why so much panic? it's not like people will just enter "female with big breasts using [anon]'s artstyle" in Stable Diffusion and use the prompts to make money
    at worst you'll get some gay claiming the AI to be exclusively their work, which is still annoying I guess

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it's not like people will just enter "female with big _ using [anon]'s artstyle" in Stable Diffusion and use the prompts to make money
      thats exactly what they are doing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So is it the gun's fault, or the shooter's?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          depends on the local laws

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So it's only a matter of legality to you? Not whether it's right or wrong?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The law of the land determines what is right or wrong

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                prostitute's mindset

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tricky because some believe the gun IS the shooter

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Obvious answer is they want commissions and people that can just prompt their own art won't have to do that to get what they want

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Tim went from Chinese shill, to Indian shill, to Chinese shill again. Did the AI companies stop paying him rupees?

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All AI art is shit.

    >dude what if Warcraft was sci-fi
    >dude what if Mona Lisa smoked a blunt
    >dude what if Auschwitz but Ghibli style

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's what the Redditors prompt.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh god, they're actually having FUN with it. Jesus Christ.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The people who don't produce anything don't have an imagination.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Shitters love to complain but hate to be tested.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Auschwitz but dom futas
      AI is sounding better by the minute.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >lazy tech grifters and third worlders have no creativity
      In other news, the sky is blue and fish swim.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Dude, what if Kanna from Blaster Master Zero 2 wore a sexy dress?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >complaining about how others choose to use the tool instead of downloading SD or signing on a colab and showing what you'd make
      >complaining about others tastes as if that's the entire bastion of what AI can do.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >dude what if the sky but wavy

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Artists learn to draw by eyeballing millions of pieces of art free of charge
    Makes sense
    >Machines learn to draw by eyeballing millions of art free of charge
    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HELP ME COPYRIGHTING LAW SORRY I CALLED YOU FASCIST

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Very original take redditor, are you going to quote heckin Picasso "great artists steal" next?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody would call you an artist

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone would call you homosexual

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Being smart and humble enough to realize human creativity is an ilusion is being a redditor
        Ok twitter homosexual, go imagine a color or a shape you never saw and report back

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >human creativity is an ilusion

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Cant tell if third world shitskin, emotional troony or boomer, anti AI people only have low IQ as a common denominator
            Can you explain how creativity is this mystical supernatural force to us?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Well sentience itself is a "mystical supernatural force to us". Are you arguing that cognition is an illusion? Where do you draw the line specifically?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes your brain is just processing input data like a very well engineered computer model

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                But that's just any mammal's brain. Why sentience?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What sentience?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Human sentience?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As opposed to what? you think your brain is fundamentally different than your dogs ? its just has more connections
                Or worse you think there is a magical soul

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you think your brain is fundamentally different than your dogs?
                You think dogs have sentience then?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                are you serious right now?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                of course they do, which is why chinese are subhuman

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think sentience is a buzzword
                At least the definition of sentience you're hinting at, you're too afraid too say "soul" because people will laugh at you for being superstitious but thats what you mean

                No. You're an NPC, I have a human soul and god's will in me.

                This guy at least has the balls to be moronic openly

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you don't have sentience
                all brains are just particularly complex chemical computers
                eventually, metal computers will be able to perfectly replicate them or even better

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                sentience is a cope and so is the soul
                you are a biological machine, no different froma robot except for material composition
                thought is an electrical current through the neurons in the brain

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No. You're an NPC, I have a human soul and god's will in me.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You have a dress on and are a man

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you are a philosophical zombie and there is nothing you can do to prove me wrong
                in the same way I am also a philosophical zombie, and also how everyone else is one

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >god's will in me
                thats just your rabbi's cum

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Amen

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I believe it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Machines learn to draw
      Don't use that word or you'll trigger some autist. The correct terminology is "generate"!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Machines don't have families to feed, they're supposed to be tools.

      The problem with the computer generating images is that poos in loos and israelites think this'll allow them to overcome a skill gap of becoming a decent artist or the paywall of hiring a decent on and paying what they're worth. The issue at its root is having something no one thought a machine could replace grow so fast.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like a supply and demand problem, maybe instead of trying to stifle others you should look at that instead

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Whether you're a Stable Diffusion enthusiast or think it's the devil, the fact is artists do have a right to feel threatened by those who see it as a cost-cutting measure among other things.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Life is about more than consoom

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        and how is that different from all the other times it has happened in human history?
        do artists really really deserve to be treated better than the rest of humanity?

        >ai thread

        kek yeah seething trannies keep spamming pajeets

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >>and how is that different from all the other times it has happened in human history?
          >do artists really really deserve to be treated better than the rest of humanity?

          Machines cutting down on labor? Well that's just a tale as old as time, so I get you on that. How can this not be considered progress? Teaching a computer to generate or reskin an image with whatever style the set-up is trained and customized to do yields limitless potential and sometimes people want to see ideas polished by the artist of their dreams without having to spend upwards a small fortune to get it.

          To be perfectly honest, this is kind of what I wanted to happen. Though it still needs more work to grow on. Artists still have a right to eat, even if I don't always agree on their business practices in this post "know your worth" world when I'm expected to pay someone who couldn't make a decent scribble of Tifa Lockhart the same amount I would someone who'd draw her in a full swimsuit worthy of a playboy spread. It's hard to say if style replication is stolen work since some of the best results might come from mixing artists in via LoRAs so even if people like Samdoesart, Borvar or Khyle may have a right to b***h about the machine sampling from their work to make things they wouldn't do, I'd sooner put common curiosity on a pedestal before an artist and err on the side of those who weren't able to get their money's worth out of artists like this and see this as justice being served in a twisted way.

          Perhaps the trend of AI generated images can be a humbling experience rather than a contentious and insidious one.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Machines don't have families to feed
        neither do you childless troon

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, just because I'm speaking contrary to my interests for the sake of perspective does not mean I'm against further development nor the potential of AI art.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        im with you we need to stop this photography technology its going to kill all the painter jobs

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    he's right, but currently there is no way to stop it. maybe if there was a decentralized ledger that ai developers had to comply with...

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does he talk like a turn of the century newspaperman?

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >artist sees art
    >artists draws new image based on seen art
    >this is good

    >ai sees art
    >ai draws new image based on seen art
    >this is bad
    americans
    >b-but muh creativity/soul/orifinality/etc
    doesn't exist
    all creations are inspired on something else and use other things as base, nothing "original" exists, everything comes from memory and their perceptible surroundings
    if you argue that this is creativity then ai is capable of creativity too, replacing memory with database and you have the exact same thing
    are we supossed to sue artists for seeing any copyrighted image once
    are we supossed to add censoring filters so no one can look at copyrighted art and thus introduce it in their memory/database

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >ai is capable of creativity too
      I have yet to see proof of this.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        zero reading comprehension
        im arguins that humans don't have creativity because creativity as a concept does not exist when nothing is original and formed from already existing ideas and concepts assimilated from their surroundings

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You should proofread your own arguments anon.
          >if you argue that this is creativity
          I accept this and, repeating myself here, have yet to see the AI equivalent of human 'creativity'

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            BECAUSE THERES NO "HUMAN" CREATIVITY MORON

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              THATS WHY ITS IN QUOTATION MARKS ANON

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >im arguins that humans don't have creativity because creativity as a concept does not exist when nothing is original and formed from already existing ideas and concepts assimilated from their surroundings
          this simply isnt true and you are moving the goalposts

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Stop responding to pajeet bots

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >bots
          That's what the "arguments" expressed against AI in these threads and elsewhere sound like.

          [...]
          [...]
          [...]
          why do you keep posting this

          It's an anti-AI schizo who is either manually spamming that shit or set up a bot. Either way, so much for human expression or complex thought. The irony is fricking palpable.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ai is incapable of creativity and humans are incapable of creativity how can you not get this

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's just semantics, unless you're unironically arguing that art itself does not exist.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you like arguing with your self homo?
      What if i said your AI images are just boring and uninteresting.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >ai is capable of creativity too,
      You need to know the difference between "aesthetics" and "creativity."

      Emulating an artist is a cool trick I'll admit but creativity would be guided choices like having a car that can transform into a plane or a diving suit that makes you look like a mermaid. AI can not consistently handle these abstract concepts in a way that isn't a mutated horror show.

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    true, people should learn how to make checkpoints and embeddings themselves, rather than relying on some company

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Any good guides?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This should be relatively normie-friendly
        https://rentry.org/sdg-link

  81. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >you're not allowed to make your AI useful
    frick off sweeney, if you used AI, you'd actually make your first nice looking game

  82. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  83. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, he probably got letters from disney and pussying out

  84. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like ol' Timmy decided not to redeem the card.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=cade_xTZeog

      seriously though, how is this supposed to help your point?
      you are just exposing yourself as a desperate troon with no actual arguments, and the post cooldown makes it crystal clear

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this just reminds me that india is spending millions trying to get their population to use a toilet and failing

  85. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like ol' Timmy decided not to redeem the card.

  86. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  87. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why is Tim such a homosexual
    he's doing exact shit as chinese government
    >accuse others of some terrible thing
    >do it yourself all the time and lie with straight face
    >try to gaslight everyone and create false image of you being the only good guy

    i hate this soulless fricking homosexual like you wouldn't believe

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >he's doing exact shit as chinese government
      Guess who owns 40% of Epic Games?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i know, he's learning from his masters
        or rather doing what they tell him to do, dunno. either way he is an insufferable homosexual

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He wants the money from both the poos and the bugmen. He stuck with the poos until the lawsuits showed up.

  88. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ai thread

  89. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you guys weren't this anti-AI when Elevenlabs was popular

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      There is a difference between laughing at silly shit and admiring things done with care, skill and passion.

      I dont want all things to be treated like a shitpost, SOME things need to be good and done well.

      Turning hitler into an anime girl or making celebrities say Black person is funny.

      Doesn't mean I want this tech to replace things done by actual artists, composers or voice actors.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't mean I want this tech to replace things done by actual artists, composers or voice actors.
        At this point I think it's an inevitability. It's just a matter of how long it's going to take.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nah. People thought photos would make paintings obsolete too.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can't replicate artstyles with photography.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              When photography first emerged it could do exactly that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You're missing the point that people thought photographs were going to put artists out of work and now it's a tool for it.

              Though it's a stretch to suggest people will use AI as a tool and even then, AI generated images are not flawless to work from as reference since mutations, extra limbs and impossible buildings are prone to show up.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You're missing the point that people thought photographs were going to put artists out of work and now it's a tool for it.
                That too, but my actual point was that artists simply moved on from (photo-)realism similar to how they will move on from derivative digital art in the wake of AI generatives.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I know normies like goyslop, but frick normies.

          I have no interest in consooming infinite mass generated content for entertainment, that too lowly even for someone who jerks it to anime and plays videogames.

          There is a point where the standards can get way TOO low and that's it.

  90. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good morning, sirs

  91. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care. Changs and Pajeets should just kill each other.
    Tiananmen Square, do not redeem the card.

  92. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >WHY DID YOU REDEEM IT!?

  93. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    tfw andrew yang was talking about this 7 years ago and no one took him seriously

  94. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good morning, sirs.

  95. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >just arbitrarily limit AI for years because feelings
    doesn't make sense when you're using a small towns worth of power to make models while everyones power bill is going through the fricking roof for having a light on.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >just legally limit AI for years because property laws

      ftfy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        frick IP laws. copywrite is the death of humanity. if you don't believe me try to build a spaceship, no nasa tech allowed whatsoever, its within the last 50 years...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I thought property was theft?

  96. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically AI gays ITT are arguing for both of these.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      WhiteColarsLivesMatter#

  97. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of indians, whats the real reason they're afraid of using toilets and instead shit in their own streets?

  98. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The ironic thing is that AI would unironically generate more original posts than all the frickers in this thread spamming "pajeets" over and over and over.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lefties are better at putting people to sleep with their attempts at humor than they are at actually making anyone laugh, especially considering all they do is steal jokes from Gankerners

  99. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He's only saying the reasonable thing. Don't see why everyone is making a big deal of it. If you disagree you're a pirate troony.

  100. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Who make for the best shills: kenyans, chinese, indians, or koreans?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Discord troon lefties

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Indians because they're the ones connected to the biggest tech companies

      rolling

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >1 minute apart
      we can see you, malding troon

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Rollinjeesh

        [...]
        [...]
        [...]
        all me btw

        Gihesh get out of computer and help clean the loo

        All me =^)

  101. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rolling

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Gihesh get out of computer and help clean the loo

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      rollin'

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      DO NOT REDEEM

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rollinjeesh

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Indians because they're the ones connected to the biggest tech companies
      [...]
      rolling

      DO NOT REDEEM

      Rollinjeesh

      all me btw

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      rollan

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ma'am

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      DO NOT REDEEM THE NAME!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rollerino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good morning sirs

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rolling

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      *flush*

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      rolling

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      redeeming

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      street shitting

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      roll

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      rolling

  102. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How long until Valve says the same thing and Timmy pulls a 180?

  103. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Using everyones art to train your AI (for porn mostly) = BAD
    >Using everyones voice to train your AI (for meme and porn purposes mostly) = BAD

    >Using everyones code to train github co-pilot (Microsoft) = GOOD

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AI is good if it's for menial, non-visual things.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why limit things?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          For fairness, uwu.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Very equitable, sister

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Or its good when youre stealing from well paid white professionals that people desperately want to get rid of...
        But to steal from some lesbos and other adult daycare "people" that provide society with nothing useful
        NONONO thats too far! Now its a moral dilemma!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yes indeed, let whitey starve. That'll teach his unrelated brethren and descendants for events they had no way of controlling while I without a shred of irony will be selectively oblivious to the descendants of said victims perpetuating cruelty by different but still ill-minded means in the name of justice which in practice sounds more like entitlement.

          But if you make my ugmo tumblr drawings I charge 799$ a pop for a head/bust obsolete, you're the real thief of joy.

  104. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    implying you can stop it
    we cant even stop big tech harvesting our personal data and selling it
    fricking matrix as is

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's understandable why some people praise the machine.
      Like that Emma Watson-gay on Ganker who just wants to remember when she was at her prime and not when she became a cracked-up cat lady with her eggs doomed to rot.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        veganism is a hell of a drug lmao, they age like spoiled milk

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > thousand wiener stare

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if only it can suck my wiener

  105. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why DID he redeem it when he was told not to?

  106. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What a homosexual lol
    I can't wait for artists to become completely obsolete.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait for anon to refute his point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If people can do use art for inspiration, AIs should be able to too, after all, you put that art out on the internet in the first place

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Can AI come up with something original though?
          >after all, you put that art out on the internet in the first place
          Yeah fair enough.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ChatGPT bro.

            Even if the presentation is hollow, it's still trying with the notes it's given.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I fricking hate GPT's writing style, it's like a mix of 6th grader school essay and promotional brochure. But you're right about it putting things into its own words even if stylistically it's not quite there yet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe Elon's unpozzed version will be better

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Can humans come up with something original though?
            How do you define what's original and what isn't?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >original
              not made by an ai. its that simple

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >How do you define what's original and what isn't?

              As things are today, an AI may write the summary of what happened, but a person can write the experience of how it happened and in what order of events they choose to tell it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Experience is just processing data though? hows that original?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If it wasn't there'd be no original thing ever.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                fiction is derivative of nonfiction

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                because there are no "original" things
                "originality" does not exist

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                see

                If art were inherently unoriginal we'd still be smearing wet mud on cave walls.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >If it wasn't there'd be no original thing ever.
                Yes? welcome to rational modern philosophy and understanding of how the human brain works

                You're missing the forest for the trees.

                The whole point is that AI can only think inside the box based on what concepts it's trained to understand or how the prompts are manipulated. Abstract concepts make a huge difference in execution that allows something to be original. AI struggles to think outside what it's trained to do. Maybe it's not impossible that doesn't mean it will do so effectively or cohesively.

                You are trained with input data from 6 senses and whatever life experience you had, AI as it stands now is trained with text
                What happens when AI is trained with a wider variety of data than (You) and process more information than you can in a lifetime ?
                You're not making a coherent argument other than "chatgtp is not AGI" which we all know

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Current AI systems are actually measurably far, far worse at this than humans. Current models need far more training data than humans to adapt to novel tasks. I recommend looking up Francois Chollets paper The Measure of Intelligence and the ARC test introduced with it.

                Keyword: current

                >AI art isn't there yet but it could be one day
                Wait I thought this thread was about the current thing and not hypotheticals

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                wrong, this thread is about philosophy and the nature of human soul/mind when compared to artificial intelligence sufficiently advanced enough to perfectly replicate our definition of it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I'm inclined to believe in a materialist, computable conception of the universe, which would imply the possibility of AGI, but it's far from a given that scaling current paradigms will solve the problem.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to think just because I'm addressing AI's flaws that it's peaked at development. I'm not. I'm only speaking of the technology and axioms that are available now. Someone could just as easily make a discovery that turns what we know about AI on its head tomorrow but right now it's not very fruitful to discussion to hinge on maybes and somedays. That's just pie in the sky thinking.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                technological singularity 2050

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're missing the forest for the trees.

                The whole point is that AI can only think inside the box based on what concepts it's trained to understand or how the prompts are manipulated. Abstract concepts make a huge difference in execution that allows something to be original. AI struggles to think outside what it's trained to do. Maybe it's not impossible that doesn't mean it will do so effectively or cohesively.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                humans just have a bigger box

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Human's boxes are modular by choice. What they know expands and when they break the rules, they do so in a way that's mindful of the conventions they pick up.

                AI working outside the box is just mistakes and visual jank that may not always be endearing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >AI struggles to think outside what it's trained to do.
                And so do humans. A lack of personal experience really shows when it comes to any form of creation.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Humans can overcome that struggle though.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                because we're programmed/coded that way
                if ai was too, it also could, but right now it's not advanced enough

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                By adquiring experience (data) do you not understand what you're saying?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why can't computers do the same?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They can you imbecile

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Uhh

                >AI struggles to think outside what it's trained to do.
                And so do humans. A lack of personal experience really shows when it comes to any form of creation.

                >AI struggles to think outside what it's trained to do.
                >And so do humans.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In this context adquiring experience = training
                What is your disability?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Determination is a romanticized meme

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Current AI systems are actually measurably far, far worse at this than humans. Current models need far more training data than humans to adapt to novel tasks. I recommend looking up Francois Chollets paper The Measure of Intelligence and the ARC test introduced with it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Keyword: current

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This is arguably the very core of the problem AGI would have to solve, of course - but as it stands, AGI is purely speculative.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is humans can be trained reliably if they stick to what they're taught.

                An AI that has been trained on images and anatomical structure will still frick those up in a way a human wouldn't outside intention.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We have millions of years filled with raw evolutionary training, it's not a fair comparison.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yet ai still imrpoves with each update so that means it hasn't hit the ceiling yet

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, development is the only guarantee we have that will yield better results so maybe in 3 or 5 years I'll be eating crow. Possibly less time than that.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                because our experiences dont solely consist of text in / image out. humans have an unfair advantage in training data. AI is a baby that can learn later.

                you think youre saying theyre fundamentally different but youre just saying that its in infancy. its like arguing that the sword is superior forever because muskets now suck.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Even with img2img, shit can get screwed up.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >AI can only think inside the box
                kinda like you

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing says original thinker quite like consooming AI-generated goyslob

  107. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ma'am can you listen to me?!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      don't bother stopping troony, i'm making another AI art thread after this one dies just to make you keep working overtime

  108. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care about artists, I'm pro AI.

  109. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's insane how buttblasted mad AI makes some people, we got some mindbroken troon over here posting about pajeets non stop as his way of coping

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's sorting out the artists who love to draw and the average at best artists who can't be frick to improve.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who uses Stable Diffusion a lot, the people who are legitimately concerned about AI art cutting into their profits deserve sympathy. People gotta eat, after all
      The people who just spam "PAJEET PAJEET PAJEET YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL ARTIST" with no other arguments are annoying as hell, though.

  110. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SIRS DON'T

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      uuuhhhh..... sister?????
      they have another thread in the catalog right now, i would spam it with pajeets but seeing it gave me a panic attack

  111. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i feel like there is something wrong with this but, on the other hand, most of the "artistic" types i know are commie morons so they should be in favor of the masses being given equal access to art

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's the funniest thing about it, they're become full blown hardline capitalists overnight when it comes to AI. I mean, nobody expects a leftist to be honest or non-hypocritical, but still

  112. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What can I donate to to help ensure artists lose and AI wins?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Thats the fun part
      All you have to do is fricking nothing for that to happen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just support the artists you like and smaller artists you think have potential. I've spent a lot on gumroad, fanbox and patreon over the years supporting the artists I like because I think it's a good use of my money.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If I pirate their art using Kemonoparty, can I take money out of their wallets?

  113. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dis someone actually made money out of NFTs before it all went to shit?

    AI sounds like a good scheme to scam some idiots while is still new, I'd like to make a quick buck before it all implodes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How is that relevant at all. Why'd you mention NFTs?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Make youtube videos about how to make money with AI, aka the shovel seller strategy, the best way to make money with gold.
      A good number of morons will give you some clicks.

  114. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Funny considering epic games is literal spyware that runs in the background and hoovers up all of yours.

  115. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Would Ganker be open to a Stable Diffusion thread where we post vidya-related prompts?

  116. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good luck enforcing that moron
    Sweeney must be absolutely braindead, cause that's the same as expecting police to be able to arrest people who pick illegal mushrooms in frick off nowhere

  117. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Epic Games CEO says

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Tim wanted to steal Valve's thunder in the first place? It's clear he doesn't give a frick about PC gaming and I'm not sure if just "greed" is enough to justify being this moronic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Abortnite became huge and he needed to show growth on quarterly report so he started EGS to have something for investors.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          All right, that makes sense.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its funny how much this hack is trying to pretend how much he cares about the customer and VALVE BAD
      Its all posturing in the end

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it really is extremely obvious Sweeney gives no shits in regards to customers purely due to his actions in comparison to what valve has done.

        Valve
        >invests in linux gaming
        >created/funded a compatibility layer for linux to make windows games compatible with linux
        >made their own linux OS
        >made steam deck
        >effectively produced a lot of support for linux gaming which can undermine Microsoft's monopoly on the OS marketplace.

        Epic
        >store front stagnating in regards to its development
        >is preventing Easy anti-cheat from having a linux compatible version that works which prevents a lot of games from working on linux
        >actively promotes Microsoft's operating system and bashes linux
        >actively promotes stagnation
        >only promotes the 15% meme so they can save/make more money

        Epic really is just a bad company that's only being supported by Unreal Engine. Once its dead, then the company is 100% following after.

  118. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >allows AI """art""" on artstation
    HMMMMM

  119. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    imagine thinking the world is a romance novel and that metaphors are reality

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      "imagine" "thinking" that you're actually capable of thinking or imagining things, and aren't just tricking yourself into believing so

  120. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY

  121. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Does Epic even care about consumers? afaik their entire plan of action is publisher focused. The only thing worth mentioning is the free weekly game, which in reality is a payoff to the publisher

  122. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how can you guys not get this
    take for example the chinese room
    isn't the brain of the person just another iteration of the chinese room within
    we only simulate and pretend to understand on the outside, bht there's nothing inside
    therefore, strong AI is the exact same as a human intelligence

  123. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT IF BIRD
    AND LION

    WOWEE ZOWEE HOMER AM ORIGINAL

    AI CANNOT COMPETE

  124. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Corporations will own nothing and be happy

  125. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    poojeet ai Black person shill thread #35824634675476457547

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'M DILATING AS HARD AS I CAN SISTERS, BUT THE THREAD ISN'T GOING AWAY. WHY ISN'T IT WORKING

  126. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is genuinely hilarious that AI-Black folk are so fricking dumb they don't understand that corporations are the ones who will abuse these tools.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >they don't understand that corporations are the ones who will abuse these tools.

      We know that's likely to happen, but that doesn't mean the machine should disappear. Most artists are just narcissists that plateaued on their methods and skill too early anyway

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't matter, corporations will soon be overtaken by AIs capable of doing the executives job a dozen times better than any human, and workers will also be replaced with tireless automatons controlled by the same AIs

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Who maintains the automatons?
        Maintenance automatons?
        Then who maintains them?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          sufficiently advanced automatons will maintain and improve themselves as extensions of the AI
          do you need help from somebody else to shove food into your mouth? moron

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >be a surgeon
          >get diagnosed with a brain tumor
          >have to die because surgeons aren't allowed to get surgeries from other surgeons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      oh no, ai generated slop instead of handcrafted slop

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >that corporations are the ones who will abuse these tools.
      As opposed to which tools that are not gatekeeped by capital?
      Do you own the means of production of your everyday products?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      true, these kinds of tools must be able to be used by the average consumer without being monitored by a corp

  127. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI threads always, without fail, end up devolving into cancer
    Why is that

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Discord troons, obviously

  128. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As an artist myself, I see at least several pros of this whole AI thing
    >traditional art will get more appreciation that digital one, fricking finally
    >mindless coomer printing press has been a cancer of digital art for years, now people finally will have to make STORIES/ideas and pour themselves into the art they make, i.e. they'll start becoming better art-ists and will have to compete with AI which will undeniable raise their quality bar - just like when traditional art made several breakthroughs in a row after photography has been invented
    >it will help with tedious mechanical work for pro-artists which can now focus on other aspects of their work, just like when 2d artists started implementing 3d tools
    It's all for the best, and filtered gays can stay filtered. Adapt and survive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      but anon you don't understand, AI is bad because I won't be able to sell my furry diaper porn for $75 a pop anymore 🙁

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Good.

      • 1 year ago
        saucy

        Good.

        okay I would read this kotaku article

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically, furries are the most likely to keep paying for art even if AI could do all the shit they want.

        They were the first ones to gatekeep AI art out, other art communities like Newsgrounds, gelbooru and reddit followed just after.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >As an artist myself
      Post your work

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it will help with tedious mechanical work for pro-artists which can now focus on other aspects of their work, just like when 2d artists started implementing 3d tools
      This is what gets me. So many arttroons are outing themselves as incompetent artists by complaining about the tech that is best utilized by real artists with real imagination and composition skills. Stuff like region control and controlNet are making diffusion AI less prompt RNG oriented and more about taking useful art skills and making it more involved with the process.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's been my take from the start honestly, it's a good tool in the right hands like an advanced form of collage crossbred with generation. What's funny is the morons ITT who think computer generated art will topple human creativity as we know it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fun fact - UI art (as in icons and shit) has been hated by artists for a very long time and is still considering a pit from which you can't really climb up as a pro since no one fricking wants to do it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I unironically wanted to be an UX designer at a point of my life.

          I got into architecture instead, but it's not That boring of a field IMO.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Dodged a bullet here my guy.

  129. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >all this talk about true intelligence, originality and how the brain works
    why do low iq morons even argue about shit they don't understand? stick to your artists btfo "discussion" and meme spam, that's all you lot are good for

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ok automaton

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, how can you not tell by now tell that these threads are just a bunch of pajeet chatbots regurgitating the same shilling points?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it's not about shilling, the point is that it has to be free

  130. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The matter is rather simple really. You can't use any images as training data unless the owner of that image has explicitly agreed to it. The image being available online is not consent to use the image for training AIs, or for anything other than just looking at it with your two human eyes. Everything else needs a separate written contract.

    Not videogames.

  131. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >don't put a licence on your art
    >noooo you can't use my art!!

  132. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >humans started to question what exactly makes them human
    Adorable, meatbags, simply adorable.

  133. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Where did this forced meme that people from India support AI come from?
    I dont think there is a single AI lab of note in india and Indian people are extremely religious by western standards
    Logically the average Indian opinion about AI should be on the luddite side

  134. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >apples store is better than epic, ITS NOT FAIR!!!
    >steam store is better than epic, ITS NOT FAIR!!!
    >ai can draw better than my nepotism artist hire, ITS NOT FAIR!!!
    Why does this gay feel the need to wake up every single morning to cry and whine about something?

  135. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >can AI think? boring and uninteresting question
    >can humans think? now that's what I'm talking about

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AI has the potential to think consistently but its current, known form of execution isn't reliable.

      Humans have the potential to execute tasks reliably but their capacity to think can be shit.

  136. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU CAN'T MAKE GAMES WITH AI!
    https://twitter.com/BearverseGame

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      *yawn*

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you pajeets love shilling this NFT mobile shit?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're the only one talking about NFTs, troon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >F2P game with NFTs
      AIBlack folk are such gays.

  137. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    two years ago in summer there was a busker that only played two very simple songs on violin with a speaker adding other instruments. for weeks the same basic songs with no actual improvement. that's the talent level I associate with most artists trying for commissions that are angry about AI art, getting just skilled enough to beg for money for their mediocrity.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > Someone playing songs straight out of Spotfy on a speaker, sets up a hat just right next to the violinist
      > Gets mad that the violinist beggar with his two songs makes 30x more and gets more attention and praise than he does.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it was the same dude, watched him pick up and put down the speaker, same piano carrying his violin the whole time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Gets mad
        >violinist beggar makes 30x more
        lol if ai isn't a threat why complain about it?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >homeless woman who just sits there
        >i sleep
        >homeless man/poor man busking his heart out with a ukulele
        >i gibb

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > but my music is better
        > but you are not playing it yourself moron.

        That makes all the difference.

  138. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >AI cant replace human creativity
    Here is what a professional creator that is worth 20 million dollars can do
    Feeling silly yet AI nerds?

  139. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY
    TECHNOLOGICAL SINGULARITY

  140. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    artistsisters..... how do we respond???? it's so over.....

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