>ERM.....THE GAME IS TOO CLUNKY
>EMMMMM....WHY DOESN'T MY CHARACTER CONTROL LIKE A ROBOT?
>UM SO LIKE....YEAH, MY CHARACTER SHOULD NOT MOVE WITH WEIGHT OR MOMENTUM BECAUSE THAT'S CLUNKY, EVERY GAME SHOULD CONTROL LIKE I'M PLAYING MY FAVORITE ANIME, OK???
moron video games are meant to be PLAYED. Before any other criteria, before anything else, it has to PLAY well. When I let go of the stick and Arthur takes like 3 more steps just because or when I need to turn around he decides to a complete walking u-turn it makes it shitty to PLAY.
filtered. you think the game would be better if you turned like the flash and looted by running over glowing cash piles
nta but I would rather play a game that feels fun to control than one where the main character walking around controls as though they're drunk. yes unironically. no i dont care that you enjoy playing boring games for liberal retardskj.
go back
>shills one of the best-selling games of all-time
>"go back"
RedditDedditReddimption 2 really played a number on you, huh? Could you predict that Micah was the rat, or did you need help with that part?
It's bad because...reddit? Go home contrarian
No, it would just be better if the character didn't move like they were waist deep in molasses
>When I let go of the stick
LMAO imagine playing this kino on anything other than a PC
>he plays PC games with a keyboard
>playing a singleplayer 3rd person game with mouse and keyboard
not every game is one of your epic e-sports twitch shooter lootbox sim and are focused on different things, accidentally walking 3 extra steps is not detrimental to the player whatsoever, unless they're retarded of course
Arthur will kick enemies below him, you're making things up
If you want more fluid movement then play in 1st person, you can strafe all you want
>accidentally walking 3 extra steps is not detrimental to the player whatsoever
Cockstar fanboys are as brainwashed as tendies, it 100% is detrimental if those 3 steps put you over a cliff or when you're trying to pick somethin up and you keep walking past it because Arthur can't make just one step
lmao way to out yourself as a piss poor gamer who falls off cliffs because he's clumsy
if you can't get used to the controls after playing for an hour then you are legitimately retarded and there is no hope for you
why do the players need to get used to garbage controls? just make the game feel better to play
I agree, that's why I dropped Souls and From games in general
They can't make the game feel responsive and not garbage
Wouldn't be hard to make it just feel better to play
>Arthur will kick enemies below him
Yeah but he'll stand there like an idiot if they are above him.
Rockstar games have always played like ass, people just stockholm syndrome'd themselves into thinking it was normal to have shitty controls to look cool to their wigger friends who all bought the same games on marketing and "hype" value.
I will be the first to say fpbp, everyone on here is too bitter and cynical to discuss things in earnest
/thread/
Realism is for simulators. Games must always have a fun and non tedious gamrplay
>auto aim bot gunplay
shutup
>He played with a controller and not mouse and keyboard with free aim
Why anyone would ever play a game that requires you to aim and shoot with a controller when they have the option for kbm is beyond me
Free aim shooting with a controller is also viable, fuckers out there have skill issues
moron it's not counterstrike. Unless you're retarded and playing red dead online, the game will never require lightning-fast reaction time. It's a game that's better enjoyed laid back in your couch.
it's not a hard game but I hope you were at least on free aim or you basically weren't playing at all
>can't land a headshot on a controller without aim assist
You guys are braindead.
Who said I couldn't? It's easier and more enjoyable with a mouse, why would I purposely handicap and annoy myself with a controller
Do you know what gyro is? Hell, there are controllers that with trackpads or trackballs now. I'd just rather sit back in my couch with a controller in my hand when I'm dedicating myself to a 100 hour game rather than sitting out my desk or finding some backwards ass way to functionally use mouse and keyboard. Not worth it. I'd rather just use developments in the tech in order to play with a controller. Play with kbm if you want. Not my fault you can't enjoy it.
You're projecting your inability to play with a controller.
I know you have a thigh tattoo of a green monkey sucking its own cock. I can tell because you're projecting
>Do you know what gyro is?
Yeah, gay shit
>Play with kbm if you want. Not my fault you can't enjoy it.
First you whine about auto aim gameplay, then you whine that I'm not playing with a controller
Another gay who will never realize how insufferable he is
>gyro is gay shit
Stopped reading there.
>I hope you played without aim assist
>LMAO you can't play without aim assist??
bro what are you saying
Rockstar's games free aim is different then the games your probably thinking of like CoD where it feels like you're free aiming when in reality the game is doing 90% of it for you
You're not good at those games with a controller, they just hide the fact that they are doing the aiming for you better than Rockstar who actually ADMIT they are giving you aim assist when you have it turned on
Why do you think playing with a mouse automatically makes you a try-hard?
I can relax just fine and still play the game at a leisurely pace and enjoy it considering I'm the one aiming and not the game doing it for me
>lacks the agency to go into the settings menu to turn the feature on like you do with every rockstar game since fucking forever
Do you even play video games, or just cry about them?
Stop making the choice to be a stupid gay all the time. It's exhausting for everyone who has the misfortune to dealing with you.
What exactly IS your opinion?
Why do you talk in some kind of reverse third person like that?
Can't you just write normally?
Shush weeb, the adults are talking
Is this game actually fun or interesting to play?
I only really kept playing GTA5 for the story and world. The actual gameplay is boring dogshit shooting galleries and setpieces.
RDR2 is pretty similar except the world is bigger, there are a few mechanics to make the experience more immersive, and it somehow feels even more fatiguing by the end than GTA5 does. Worth one playthrough, but don't expect to be blown away enough to replay. Imagine if you went to six flags except you get caught on a mediocre ride that malfunctions, starting and stopping sporadically and mostly unsatisfyingly. About a hundred hours of that is what my playthrough of RDR2 felt like.
the presence of arcade-y driving mechanics makes gta5 tolerable. rdr2 doesn't have those so you notice it more. story is good enough to warrant an entire playthrough but i wouldn't call it a masterpiece like some claim it to be .
>Arthur stands there like a retard not swinging his knife at an enemy because the enemy is standing on a slight incline
Ah realism at its finest. Its just so immersive.
the biggest problem is nothing you do in the gameworld outside of the main story counts for anything.
This game just feels like shit to play. There is no strawman argument you could make that will justify its faults.
Fuck off underage retard
i actually liked the simulator gameplay. there was a lot of thought put into it. then again, i played assassin's creed odyssey right before i played RDR2 and the differences could not be starker.
Most overrated garbage posted here
Correct.
"Realistic" games have forgotten that people can, and do in fact, walk backwards or sideways. RDR2 movement is like driving a car with no reverse gear.
i loved the movement and animations in this game. Every other game feels like ice skating compared to it.
RDR2 is the modern day Shenmue. Its adherence to being as realistic as possible will either be love or hated.
You're not controlling the character, you're just suggesting where he should move
After playing RE4make, every RDR plays like shit to me.
I can only satisfy myself with Dead Space and Evil Within 1.
RDR2 legitimately is clunky though which isn't true to real life. You play as an in shape outdoorsman but he feels like an obese 40 year old. Not to mention the game was console only for like 2 years and at 30 fps it feels like you're moving in slow motion.
Have you ever actually tried to run in cowboy boots?
Simply turning left or right feels like there's input lag. Nothing to do with running.
Have you ever actually tried to turn left or right in cowboy boots?
I can turn quicker in ice skates and don't try and tell me ice skates are more cumbersome than boots
There's literally no fucking FRICTION
Boots are more cumbersome than ice skates*
Ice skates not on ice
What? If anything you would be able to turn faster on ice skates
I can't continue to take you seriously after a comment like that
>ice skates not on ice can turn quicker than boots
I knew shills are retarded but I didn't know they'd go this far to defend a shitty movement system
>B-but ice skates but I meant not on ice!!!
You never specified that you weren't on ice? Why the fuck would I assume you are wearing ice skates not on ice?
The fact that you're calling anyone else retarded is priceless
Imagine not being able to read
It's several posts above yours so you can't even claim it was posted after yours. Like I said you are a retarded shill.
>You didn't read every single reply so the fact that you missed the correction to the mistake I made in the original post you replied to is your fault
I wonder how a person like you interacts with people in real life
>b-b-but it's not my fault I can't read
I was joking about being retarded before but you genuinely sound like you have room temperature IQ
Can you read? I just said I didn't see the reply where you had to fix your BONE-HEADED mistake
Why would I read every single reply to a post if I'm only interested in the initial comment?
>I can turn quicker in ice skates
Yeah I bet you can you fucking fruit.
>I can turn quicker in ice skates
Yeah no shit dumbass
https://youtube.com/shorts/4b7v3Yki4os?feature=share
The first one is still better
WHY DOESNT HE HAVE INHUMAN REFLEXES LIKE I DO????? PUSHING A BUTTON ON THE CONTROLLER MEANS YOU MOVE. INSTANTLY!!!!!!
The problem with rdr2 isn't the controls, it's the retarded writing
the missions in this game are objectively, indefensibly, fucking terrible. thats all you need to say to shit on it. but yes the movement is unresponsive, mechanics tedious, and woke shit
>woke shit
>posts a movie where the main character literally dies for a black girl
Shut up
Ways to improve ~~*Reddit*~~ Redemption 2
remove ALL of the contemporary political propaganda. for example:
- ethnic americans attacking other ethnic americans and worshiping the african black (this was definitely not part of american history, and even libtards agree because they say ethnic americans were always wayciss to africans - so why in the fuck would it be believable that arthur loves the african black and kills that guy standing up for americans? even europeans don't understand this part of the storytelling (because it's something that doesn't make sense unless you've been following the nonsense trail that started in 2016)). It says right on the box "america 1899" and this assertion is reinforced constantly throughout the game
- americans would not be traveling with africans, even in a gang of outlaws, especially Southerners from the Confederacy - don't find some gay corner case where all you do is say there was an african that spoke to an american 120 years ago in america - just get rid of it
- address properly every complaint in this video https://www.bitchute.com/video/5opFTQmh3cZ3/ (embed)
- do not have arthur attack the KKK
(notice how there's a theme building here where I can easily spoon feed you the anti-american propaganda)
- make the writing realistic. and to make it very clear to the mentally ill libtards, have the american outlaws use the word "moron" all the time. this is necessary because there seems to be a school of thought on this game where the word "moron" is the focus. just get it over with and say "moron" until the cows come home
- if you're too stupid to understand what's been said above, just remove africans from the game and you can only screw up so bad after that, assuming Rockstar wants to improve this game instead of mistelling American history
- fix the convoluted controls. make on screen pop ups if you need to when obscure controls become available.
- fix your gay ass menus to work like a normal game. This is far bigger a problem than i ever imagined it could be in 2018
- fix the ridiculously shitty in-game information menus to properly categorize information in a tree based format, you clowns
- make the saving and loading system simply accessible from the start menu and label it "save/load".
- make the auto ride always available
- skippable cutscenes (your game does not look good enough to watch that gay shit over and over again)
- have something to better pass the time between rides (i've heard the nature scenes were supposed to make the inexcusably long rides excusable. they don't. your game doesn't look that good. get over yourselves, you're just being cheap because you're not creative enough to figure a way around this)
- make the inventory system better. what you have is so bad i'm not even going to start on how to fix it. get your not-racist asses in that office, get smarter and fix it.
- that core system is far too central a focus of the game. dragging ass all the time trying to fill the cores needs to have something else going on with it. it's a deal breaker and i will never play this game again because of it. your graphics aren't good enough to make up for this. your graphics are not good enough to make up for this.
- fix whatever the fuck is wrong with the mapping system. the thing doesn't log where i've explored sometimes, and there are like 3 places to check maps: arthur does the gay shit where he holds a map, there's a map in the start menu, and i think there's one other way to pull up a map. this is dumb and gay and you should scrap the whole system. this is also a deal breaker and i will never play this game again because of this one thing.
- sometimes there is shit that pops up on the screen that you cannot read a log of. especially when symbols pop up and there is no way to even do an internet search for that shit. FUCK YOU for irritating me with this shit FUCK YOU DEVS PERSONALLY AND FUCK YOUR BOSS/MANAGERS
deal breakers for playing this game that i didn't mention explicitly: the in-game information being poorly displayed is a deal breaker, the unskippable cutscenes are a deal breaker, the long rides are a deal breaker, the core system is a deal breaker, the anti-white 2018 american politics is a deal breaker,
For those who have been subverted: "ethnic americans" means the admixture of europeans, i.e. British, German, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, irish, scotish, polish, czech, swiss, finnish, swedes, russian, greek, italian, and so on.
they are the ethnic americans because they were the original intended immigrants of this new found, and largely unoccupied (especially in north america), land and organized the land to declare it a new land. and so it became a country for the first time in world history and the NEW mixture of european peoples together (which was shocking back then, as it was shocking that brits would mix with czech or german with polish or italian with anyone else), that had never happened in world history, gave birth to the american ethnicity, and it excludes african and pre columbian dna (reeeeee it's non inclusive, AMIRITE?)
indians? the pre-columbians to be more accurate? they didn't even have names, most of them , and they died off due to the black plague and 7 or 8 other black plague level diseases simultaneously.
Rdr2's creator company, Rockstar, has political motivation to mistell the history of USA, and it's causing a Mandela effect right in front of our eyes
This, i don't want shitskins on my games kill them all.
>fix your gay ass menus to work like a normal game. This is far bigger a problem than i ever imagined it could be in 2018
The UI really was a pain in the ass. Its retarded that information on your cores and condition is buried under multiple screens.
i lost a 10 pages list of problems with the game. all legit problems
I genuinely don't understand why UI isn't a solved fucking problem by now. I also don't think the game every tells you that you can go straight to the map, or close all the way out to the main menu by holding the respective buttons, and by the time you figure it out, or someone tells you you've already got that god damn muscle memory built in.
>I genuinely don't understand why UI isn't a solved fucking problem by now
right? there are several RECENT games I've played that have shitty UIs and I cannot imagine how that even happened.. I mean it's shit like menus having inverted up and down controls... menus NEVER get inverted controls. down is always down and up is always up.
an older game with fucked up menus/UI is derp souls. for a prime example, the way to load bolts into the crossbow is the very most retarded way to load bolts into a crossbow that I've ever seen
Only casuals enjoy this shit. It's no better than Assassin's Creed.
how the fuck do i save some asshole from getting mugged without the law looking for my ass? why cant i just shoot a robber and everyone be cool about it?
That’s the point retard. The decline of the wild Wild West
not like that gay, sometimes i fist raiders in the middle of the town and no one cares, i do the same some other place and someone snitches
>NPCs react differently
I don't see the problem
NOOOO WHY DOESN'T YOUR CHARACTER MOVE LIKE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
RETARD-SISTERS, I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD
I'M GONNA -ACK!
>anybody who doesn't like the controls wants them to be just as bad but in a different way
New cope dropped?
What do you mean? He already does. You have the homing attack for melee.
I just want to know how being masked affects the wanted system? It makes no fucking sense
Ok this is fair criticism. Everything I've seen points to it being coherent (a.k.a not buggy) but it's far from intuitive. The game logic around it is kind of convoluted. Don't ask me to explain it.
I have no fucking idea lmao. Its so pointless in RDR2
iirc masks will conceal your identity from pedestrians and reduce your bounty, when they eventually report you lawmen will not initially know it is Arthur but they always see through your mask
I only play games with cute girls as the protagonist.
So you gonna play Alan Wake 2?
I said cute
Read bro read
Ah so you gay, got it
Just watch a western instead. this is written by a game development company. watch a movie.
I can deal with momentum and the general character movement but why in the fuck does looting stuff takes ages? >MUH ANIMATION
Yeah its cool for 2 minutes and after that it just sucks and feels like the game is intentionally stealing my time. Otherwise it is a good game but god, reduce those animation times
>"""realistic""" and """immersive""" game
>you kill 30+ bros by yourself in every mission
>western but chud loves
dropped
No undead nightmare 2 was a crime
I finally played it a few months ago and its not perfect but its still easily one of the greatest games ever made
you can say it has issues or isnt as good as the original rdr but only a mentally ill Gankertard who has never played it could possibly hate it
It looked good and the story was decent but that's it, honestly calling it one of the greatest games ever seems like a stretch
You type like a gay, can you name a better open world game other than maybe Morrowind?
You are just a gay and the RDR1 was solely superior because it didn't go to hard trying to be realistic, the gameplay felt more like a chore after a while. At least RDR1 kept it video gamey and try to do to much.
It's a vidya masterpiece with very retarded flaws that could've been easily avoided.
>Slow ass animations and other quality of life limitations
If they care so much about their realistic vision, then make it an optional feature, some gay shit like "Realistic mode", "hardcore mode", and attach an achievement or reward to play it like that whatever, just make it possible to disable it.
>UI
Hire a designer that is not terminally retarded.
>Economy
Make it possible to buy houses or some other expensive shit that could be useful.
>Linear missions.
Just delete several "mission failed" retarded conditions, that alone would open a world of options compared to how it is right now.
That's it. Any other complain is just 4chan brain rot garbage since the game isn't nearly as woke as these greasy bald fucks make it out to be.
>Ganker gets filtered by the normiest game ever made because, le controls and character moves too slow
My 16 year old sister has beaten this game.
This game was so good that it made me start hunting and fishing irl because I had so much fun doing it in game. Anyone who actually dislikes this game are missing the forest for the trees because every "flaw" that gets mentioned is ever so minor; The multiplayer is genuinely terrible though.
In trying to strive for realism they ironically make it highly unrealistic. Who the hell walks so awkwardly or takes extra steps when they want to stop? A person can turn, stop, and start way faster than you can in RDR.
very boring, basic movie game with some very impressive technical aspects that are wasted on a game where 95% of the gameplay is wasted because all the interactivity in the world doesn't mean shit when the devs design their game like a legit fucking movie where you are punished for going off script for a second
but i will maintain rockstar has the best proprietary engine in the business, just a shame they hire monkey retard devs that don't know how to utilize it, imagine if they took GTA4 and iterated forwards, not backwards from it, also imagine if GTA5 didnt exist and essentially kill the productivity of the studio