And why charge more at this point if you made that much money for a video game?
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And why charge more at this point if you made that much money for a video game?
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>writing lIkE tHiS
Opinion discarded. have a nice day and get ya money up
There's no universally regarded sarcasm symbol so this is the compromise, guy.
Sarcasm doesn't make sense here, because "inflation" is literally what the dev said as their justification. OP pic is using it in an "I AM SILLY" way.
I believe you're forgetting:
*Shifty eyes*
...
I dreamed I was old.
Just writing "inflation" in quotation marks literally indicates the sarcasm, ya dingus.
dumb Black person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation
From that very page:
>On the Internet, it is common to see alternating uppercase and lowercase lettering to convey a mocking or sarcastic tone
eat shit
Compromising your rectal integrity maybe.
can't believe I laughed at this, I snorted air out my nose
I universally regard people who type like that as annoying dipshits.
>get ya money up
writing like that, you should have a nice day also.
>get ya money up
you need to be 18+ to post here
Because they can and they want to.
You can choose to not purchase the game. Others might choose to purchase it regardless.
If he's going to lie and deceit what else will he do?
dumb and poor 3rd world esl
You got a problem with someone chosing to show people that the devs haven't actually been affected by inflation?
No. What gave you the impression I had a problem with it? I just answered the question.
Everyone is affected by inflation because inflation means that everyone's money is worth less.
>lose 5% to inflation
>gain 5% of revenue share
Looks like nothing to me
Are you moronic?
You seem to be. In fact they got more like a 7% increase in revenue.
yes
the little trotskyists have little experience with the world
>the devs haven't actually been affected by inflation?
Since I've been working in the same country for the past decade, and especially the past 3 years, I can 100% confirm, that they absolutely **have** been affected by all the ridiculous inflation over here, unless all the devs have been importing their daily necessities with help of mafia and the black markets. For frick's sake, just the price of many common groceries alone has at least doubled (or more) in most, not to mention the energy fiasco spiking up bills, rent and housing prices by a similar (if not bigger) amount.
The Steam homosexual in the OP's pic sounds like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, because eastern Czechia has had "Western" (if not worse) prices, yet "3rd world wages" for at least a couple decades now.
Their financial woes aren't my problem. Should customers have to contribute to refunds too?
You aren't a customer though, because anyone that already owns it is unaffected.
Should customers contribute to refunds?
In a way they do, because if a game fails hard enough it can get placed into eternal early access status and development is stopped for a half finished product.
I'm a future customer. I just don't buy things before I intend to use them because that's how you end up buying a bunch of shit you'll never use
I bet you defended Sony raising their prices to 70 you fricking israelite
That post was not a defense of anything or anyone. Work on your reading comprehension.
>because they can and want to
Sounds like defending it to me
It's a statement of fact. If I say you're a double digit IQ homosexual, it's not a value judgement, it's just an observation anyone can make.
OP asked why they'd charge more even though they're financially successful. The answer is because they can and they wanted to. There is no support or opposition in this statement.
Now shut up.
It's a statement of fact that you suck developer wiener
>why did person do X?
>uhmm because he has hands and so he can do stuff with them? moron question
I don't get this mentality, if you stand for nothing and don't care to discuss the motivations & morality of someone's actions why post at all? And I say this as someone that doesn't care for Factorio
Based
Based
Also based.
You see homosexuals it's quite simple. Complaining, crying, and seething of any kind is very gay and boring and loser behaviour. Doing whatever you want, however, is based. You will soon learn that arguing is for nerds. Buy it. Pirate it. Or make your own game -- (and charge hundreds for it, by all means!)
Oh frick you. Yall cry about muh AAA microtransactions ruining gaming all the time. How about kindly frick off?
I believe they do ruin games. It's why I don't buy them, never have. You, on the other hand, choose to impotently seethe over it in Reddit threads like the soijack you are!
GO FRICK YOURSELF!!!!!!
>You can choose to not purchase the game. Others might choose to purchase it regardless.
Good for them, they made a great game and they dont bow down to the troony hordes.
Do I care? No.
Bought both Factorio and Satisfactory at release and having fun to this day with both of them.
Suck my dick.
>after you make a certain amount of money, you should be forced to change the price to what *I* think it SHOULD be
lol no
It's more like leave the price alone. I respect him rarely putting a good discount on it, it's fine. But charging an extra 5 dollars is fricking lame especially if he made millions.
>he
You think that one guy made factorio?
You are so fricking stupid that it legit hurts. You are no different from the pokemon cultists that psychopatically defend the pokemon devs no matter what they do. Fricking corpo boot-licker.
Why should you stop profiting from your product?
Why would you stop profiting from your product?
Why is Ganker full of filthy communists?
Why are Factorio threads full of redditors anyway? It's like every time they find someone they disagree with they talk like homosexuals from Reddit who have just started to realize that they say say "the bad words" without getting instantly banned.
it's a reddit game
??????
Did you miss all the factorio Ganker generals since the game came out on steam? Making up shit doesn't really help your campaign morons. Get better at psyops.
I considered it an autism game but now that I think about it most of the games that fall under that category have mostly Discord/Reddit-centered communities.
It's probably just the case that Terraria has where zoomers grew up and have started shitting up the discussion because they act like in their home community. You could copypaste a lot of posts ITT into a Discord chatroom or as a Reddit post and it would not look out of place, other than any slurs that they couldn't get away with saying there.
>You could copypaste a lot of posts ITT into a Discord chatroom or as a Reddit post and it would not look out of place, other than any slurs that they couldn't get away with saying there.
I don't see it
What do you think my troony friend?
Focuses too much on trannies to be a Reddit post (not that it matters a lot because a lot of the politically obsessed on Ganker are refugees from social media) and it goes at length to actually explain the "no bad publicity" phenomenon.
Also I am not a troony.
They got filtered by trains Im no joking
Trains is hard job. Stay strong.
>WHY MIGHT A GUY MAKING A PRODUCT INCREASE THE PRICE OF IT?! DOES HE HAVE NO SHAME?!
>thinking you wouldnt do the same if you could get away with it
kek
honestly, who cares, if you have it already then why would you give a shit? if you don't and this extra 5 dollars pisses you off, you weren't going to get it anyway. i didn't buy it, still won't, and i laugh at idiots that cry about this and proceed to spend 200+ dollars on bullshit cosmetics in trash like apex or cod. kys.
>As long as he politically aligns with me it's ok to rip me off and act greedy as frick!!!!
You.
>implying i know or care about a developer's fricking politics when the topic is about price
like i said, kys.
How can I be ripped off on a game I already own? Must suck to be late to the party.
I legitimately was gonna buy it before they announced the price hike. I said frick that and pirated it. Simple problems require simple solutions
Cool! Post your factory, I want to see.
nothing wrong with that either, as i said, i didn't buy it and looking at all the autism in the thread with people like
make me wonder if this is a discord raid
Frick the gaytario devs. I was thinking about eventually getting around to playing it but after this incident I don't think I ever will and if I do you can bet your sweet ass it's going to be a pirated copy.
With inflation its probably only really 80 million.
>noooo muh poor starving devs
Maybe make a new game instead of sitting on your ass with a shit one?
>everyone bought the game for 30 dollars
>this game has never been on sale or part of a bundle at a huge discount
>steam doesn't take a cut. it's a lie, ok? don't read that paragraph about how they do actually take a cut, ok?
>money doesn't get taxed, you get to keep all of it
>you don't need compensation for your work
>you don't need to pay employees
>you don't need to use the money you made on your previous games as an investment towards making future games
>seriously, stop planning ahead with your finances, it's stupid. live in the moment, ok?
say it with me, sisters....TAX THE RICH!!!!
>this game has never been on sale or part of a bundle at a huge discount
It actually hasn't though
>this game has never been on sale or part of a bundle at a huge discount
stupid moron shill
>everyone bought the game for 30 dollars
Nope
>this game has never been on sale or part of a bundle at a huge discount
Correct
>you don't need compensation for your work
They've been compensated, seven years ago. This isn't a continuing product.
>you don't need to pay employees
See above.
>you don't need to use the money you made on your previous games as an investment towards making future games
Not my problem and clearly it's been successful
>seriously, stop planning ahead with your finances, it's stupid. live in the moment, ok?
Fricking weird bait. Not even Nostradamus would've predicted the israelites would start INCREASING the price of things that are nearly a decade old.
>This isn't a continuing product
Incorrect.
but that's wrong.
I swear I paid less.
Wasn't the game scaled down in price compared to how finished it was?
I bought it really early, before all the homosexuals got involved.
>I swear I paid less.
you probably did . the game was in ea for ~4-5 years and was cheaper back then. i got it when it was 20.
Yeah, I bought it super early on a long time ago and only paid like $5 or $10.
Even if he only pocketed 1% of its revenue that'd still make him a millionaire. Which is still more money than most people will make in a decade.
Let me put it this way, if even the greediest, most israeli publishers out there like EA, Activision, Nintendo etc. never raise the price of their games, what does that make this guy?
someone who knows what he is worth
Someone who only ever charged half what they did to begin with and never sicced laywers on anyone who looked at him sideways.
EA and Activision may not raise price on existing games, but they hire psychologists to make the games as addictive as possible and structure the entire game around selling DLC and micro transactions and getting you hooked.
How about you make a product and decide how much it's worth, and you might make a million dollars too
The guy has made an estimate on what his creation is worth and doesn't seem to give much of a frick how much money he makes on it, hence the no-sales-no-discounts policy he's kept since the game's conception. If he wants to raise the price and lose sales numbers that's up to him
>everyone bought the game for 30 dollars
speak for yourself
Taxing the rich is moronic, because then the politicians just get the money. Paying the workers better is the way better option.
Why do people care so much about this? You literally buy the game ONE time. It's not like you pay a monthly sub. If you can afford a one time $30 payment, you can afford $35 too.
Most people don't care about this, it's just a currently trending topic that gets guaranteed_replies.jpg
Not really, See my post. It's explains why the outrage is occurring.
>Why do people care so much about this?
its literally a troony psyop to capitalize on the price increase because the devs didnt suck their mutilated dick when they got called out. Some people might be genuinely upset but I dont think its the majority.
One user on Reddit asked for Kovarex to include a disclaimer, but Kovarex’ reply was a succinct refusal. “Take the cancel culture mentality and shove it up your ass.” He denounced those who took offense as trying to label him a right wing bigot, and having the attitude of “Everyone is either a friend or an enemy, and we need to decide fast!”
He also stated the accusations against Uncle Bob were irrelevant, and that he trusted those reading the blog post “to have the ability to create their own opinions instead of blindly following whatever says the person they like.”
When the drama spilled on Twitter and the Steam Forums, calls to blacklist and not buy Factorio fell on deaf ears. If anything, it seemed to encourage more people to play the game, as when reported the game gained over 1,000 new positive reviews, and became the 63rd most played game on Steam.
The game’s official Twitter account even replied to one of the Twitter users who drew attention to the controversy; stating “I’m really happy for the free ads we are getting. Thank you for that.”
https://nichegamer.com/factorio-founder-kovarex-interview-cancel-culture-and-secret-support/
I will now buy your gaem
is it, though? I recall a bunch of butthurt vatniks upset about them daring to say that they're concerned about the devs on their team that live in ukraine. this asspain could be coming from either side. (which is funny, because both sides are proven homosexuals.)
Come on. Everyone was shitting their pants when sony increased their game prices by the same percentage. Why is it ok now? Because the devs made a sob story about how the big bad economy is oppressing them?
Factorio has more content than any shitty big-budget AAA gameslop for half the price. It's STILL under-priced even with the increase.
I can only think of one sort of person who would ever call something underpriced. Well two if you include paid shills
What makes Factorio replayable? Never played it
It's fun.
Once you have a lot of stuff built, you're basically doing pic related, and the specifics of how you do it have a lot of variety based on the player count of the server, starting terrain, nearby resource patches, etc.
I've played better games with more content for free, therefore it's only right for them to pay me to play Factorio
>Factorio is one game that you buy one time
>Sony is a publisher that releases multiple games and is increasing prices as a baseline
You are genuinely moronic.
>you literally pay for the game one time
you pay zero times if you're not moronic.
Why are you such a boot-licker?
>What are taxes
If you're going to use the term "revenue" - at least google the definition first, moron.
When triple AAA companies raised the prices of games to $70 I didn't complain I just stopped buying.
Stop whining.
>AAA games used to be $39.99 new
This issue really doesn't need multiple threads, does it?
Was this one made because there were too many autists hyperfixated on the last one?
'cause if so................ Hello again.
Uhh why is Valve taking a smaller cut the more a game makes?
>If you're an indie dev making pocket change Valve steals more of it
>If you're a giant rich AAA dev you get a discount
?????
You're worth more to them, you have more power.
It's a preventative measure against AAA moving to their own walled gardens or the EGS (who despite shitting the bed every other day, have virtually infinite money to keep their store afloat)
It's pretty insane how differently these guys handle things from the stardew valley guy who has been delivering content for free for years at this point because he admitted he earned more than he could have ever hoped for.
tqbh SDV is character and social based game that allows you to be gay so its pseudo pozzed so troonygays wont call out CA
Factorio, on the other hand, not. And troonygays are still seething
What's up with people writing like this? Does Ganker breed mental illness or just attract morons and schizos? Maybe both?
if someone like EA did this shit you gays would be pissing your pants. what makes these morons any different?
They made a game worth the money
plenty of good indie games with "tons" of content. argument invalid
Sure, what does that have to do with the post? I'd pay $35 for those as well.
Yeah, this is the part that gets me. I don't really care either way, it's still worth $35 and most of the outrage is driven by trannies. I had no problem with the no discount policy, but this is a little strange.
The cost for additional copies of a game is a flat percentage, inflation doesn't really matter, they aren't losing money by continuing to produce copies. The game is already developed and made a lot in revenue, so if the profits of a 100 million dollar grossing game aren't enough to deal with inflation, then it's time to make another game.
>That's right go- I mean guys. Its the trannies don't want you to pay more for video games. You're stickin' it to em by paying more.
Dude, you don't even read. I'm saying they are being greedy. Yes, trannies are driving the outrage, but also yes, the Factorio devs are being greedy and shouldn't be applauded for it just because trannies hate them.
>most of the outrage is driven by trannies
Mentally ill post. Are these trannies in the room with us right now?
this is problematic and highlights an issue with capitalism
This calculation doesn't take a few things into account. Namely, sales.
Don't have concrete data, but pretty sure the majority of sales happens
1) on release
2) during sales
Further, next to the money valve takes, there is also such a thing as "taxes", and most of us europoor countries unfortunately suffer from progressive taxes. Germany is a hardcore example where minimum wage effectively means that some 50-60% of your money goes to the government and compulsary social security.
Employees, too, are very expensive. Usually you have to pay twice of what they cost, and then they ought to make profits.
This guy has zero knowledge of how economics works, on a macro or micro level, and is moronic.
On that note, the devs using inflation as excuse for being greedy fricks doesn't make anything better. Two important things to find out would be how much they paid a year ago compared to now to their employees and whether they work remotely or on-prem, and in that case find out their rent.
Could go more in-depth but pretty sure nobody here cares about economics beyond "buy high sell low" like in Anno.
>2) during sales
He rarely puts it on sale. If he does it's like 10% off though.
Lowest recorded price according to SteamDB is 20 bucks. Someone in another thread also mentioned it used to cost even less a few years ago.
Took me five min to find their balance sheet
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09201188/filing-history
It's registered in the UK and they had about 5,3 mil in cash reserves in Sept. 2021.
Considering they make games and don't have huge earnings in-between games and likely quite substantial running costs to cover all their fixed costs (employees and rents), it's still greedy to increase their prices, but it's so far away from the number this guy came up with.
Ultimately, it's a pure price vs. utility calculation, and if price elasticity is high enough for games there's little reason not to use it.
The game is not a service, if they want to make money, create new content.
Imagine game devs increasing prices of games released in the 90s because "think of the poor employees!" instead of just releasing new paid content.
>Imagine game devs increasing prices of games released in the 90s because "think of the poor employees!" instead of just releasing new paid content.
You mean like how they release the remastered definitive remake edition of games instead of creating new games?
That was the Factorio Devs mistake, should have made some minor changes call it the definitive version of the game $35 for new players give to existing owners for free and it would have been no big deal.
>Imagine game devs increasing prices of games released in the 90s because "think of the poor employees!" instead of just releasing new paid content.
in the 90s you got charged more for games simply because they were hot/popular. mortal kombat, street fighter, etc. on snes was 69.99 and you could get less popular games for 39.99 or 49.99
On release, yes, not 7 years later.
This post is completely useless for one simple reason:
Factorio never had sales, it's a policy enforced by the devs because, as they said themselves, they consider the base price "fair" and thus defeat the purpose of putting the game on sales, ever.
Cool, so it wasn't sales but just general increases.
Not even the first increase since release. WTF are you guys going on about?
Maybe they tried to start an outrage to increase sales because now tons of normies will hear about Factorio.
According to Steam you only acquire the license to the game. But that is probably not what you meant.
>if they want to make money, create new content
Think in business terms. You sell ice cream. One portion is 1$. At some point you realise that you can also sell one portion for 2$ and only lose 10% of your customers. With 100 customers that is 100$ vs 180$, which one would you take?
That is what they are trying.
One info I don't have is price change policy. If they can just try it and set it back down after a while there is not much to lose.
posted their balance sheet here
Their totals are an unknown but that number is absurdly high
>Namely, sales.
lol. the game never had sales. dev made big thing about it to wove never to put it on sale some time back
Who cares, game is worth every penny either way.
Factorio is easily worth $60 and the majority of games over $30 are worth about $5.
You now remember that PC games were sold for $30-$50 in the 90s and their price was never corrected for inflation until 2023.
not really
most moved to $60 in the last few years.
$60 PC games were already a thing over a decade ago, $70 console games too. At no point was inflation used as an excuse to suddenly increase a base price.
Lmao, chuds who praise this israelitery are being played like a fiddle.
Steam taking 30% is israeli as hell and im shocked people tolerate it. Unreal Engine itself ony asks for 5%, and its the game engine you make your fricking game in. Steam additionally makes you pay $100 to even put your game on their platform. Why do steamcucks dickride them so hard?
No one forcing people to release their games on Steam. You can publish on your own website and keep 100% of the revenue. Almost like that 30% Steam takes is worth it for some reason.
Nobody gives a shit about your game unless its on Steam if you aren't called Minecraft, if anything they are being generous by not asking for more.
Its also a better deal then brick and mortar .
Then make your own distributed CDN that provides 1gbps or higher throughput even on remote ares, a host for cloud saves and have a launcher with many features that you have EGS games requiring to be added as non-steam games just to get controller support
Frick off timmy
This is proving my point. They have a gross monopoly and are taking more than they should but here you are defending them because theyre at the top. That 30% fricks over anyone but the triple A devs making millions.
A monopoly is something that uses its market power to take hostile action against the consumer, not other producers.
>They have a gross monopoly
They don't, uplay exists, origin exists, EGS exists, GOG exists.
By definition Valve doesn't have a monopoly.
Now why is steam the most popular by far? Because none of the above actually provide better services or services steam doesn't have.
There's a lot of corporations that tried to do what Valve did, it's just that they can't really hire people for shit to manage such a large system. Launchers like uPlay and Origin are more for DRM than anything. All the corporations like Microsoft and Google are just waiting like vultures for Gabe to step down so that they can try buying Valve directly from whomever will replace him for like a hundred billion dollars or something.
They already do that, it's called a "remaster".
I think I saw kovarex mention there are 30 employees working at the company. Where are the updates and games? Is he constantly interrupting development to optimize and rework shit?
It's not that bad but it's odd that they have such autistic fanbases most of the time. There's an entire community centered around a Minecraft mod that makes everything far more tedious to produce and adds automation called Greg Tech. I stumbled upon a surprisingly large idle game community called Kitten Clicker where it takes whole days and weeks to do anything worthwhile.
>Unreal Engine itself ony asks for 5%
Comparing a distribution platform, that hosts, sells, advertises and spreads your game to a game engine.
Peak Ganker
>Steam additionally makes you pay $100 to even put your game on their platform.
Holly shit, how could you pay for that??????
Ubisoft unironically going bankrupt by putting their games back on steam.
Because your alternative's are EGS, or Itch, EGS have higher standards and Itch has a way, way smaller userbase.
Online games distribution is effectively a natural monopoly, and Valve got their first and achieved critical mass.
EGS is 5% if you use unreal but the downside is you have to bother putting it on the store when you get no sales there anyway.
>Steam taking 30% is israeli as hell and im shocked people tolerate it
Retail takes more, Steam 30% tax is small cut considering how easy to distribute copies compared to retail.
No, 20% is not enough. You can see Epic v Apple court leaked docs, Timmy Tencent is losing millions because of undercutting
Steam offers many more services, from dedicated servers api to community hub with workshop, forums, screenshots, guides. There's also cards and item trading and the store itself is much more evolved. The way you can push releases and patches is super easy too.
30% is definitely israeli but steam can't be compared to epic store
Aw hell, has everyone else already started automating their replies to this thing? I've seen a lot of reposts. Damn it, I'm behind. I'll catch up.
>$101.4m
And then Steam takes a cut
And then taxes take a cut
And then they have to pay the developers
>pay the developers
They're 6 guys in Prague where the average software engineer is paid something like $40,000 per year.
>if you live in a poorer country than america you shouldn't be allowed to make a profit.
ok chud
it was also 20$ originally for early-access, the whole rant of that steam troony OP is incorrect and takes none of that into account.
It's literally okay when Factorio does it, didn't you know? I hope the cultist defending this have never complained about israeli practices for anything else because this israeli trick is cutting edge.
>Its only $5 on top of 30
>He deserves it because its THAT good
>It never goes on sale because its so good
>No indie game is as good as it that's why they don't go up in price
>Actually no game at all is that good
>He should charge any more because its just soooo good
>mmmm delicious
>He needs this money or he'll starve
>You're just a poorgay
trannies are still mad lol
go back to crying about harry potter
I know and they really suck at pretending like they fit in too. Its pretty entertaining watching them rage. Factorio is a Ganker staple, its ridiculous if they think they can get us to hate on the devs
That's not how it works.. Why are Steamcels so sophomoric?
I have been waiting almost a decade for the game to be on sale to buy it and it still hasn't not even a single time. I guess the dev doesn't want my money.
Why does a sale matter so much to some people? If it was originally 60 but went on sale at 30 (current normal price), would you then buy it?
>If it was originally 60 but went on sale at 30 (current normal price), would you then buy it?
Yes
Did we really need another of these threads?
>And why charge more at this point
Inflation.
You neets don't think it's a valid reason, but it is.
Frick, you got more money as well due to inflation. You have right? Both wages and neetbux were adjusted for inflation in Germany a short while ago.
Please tell me you live in a country that actually adjusted your income for inflation?
>Please tell me you live in a country that actually adjusted your income for inflation?
There are countries that didn't do that?
no, because CNN said there is no inflation, so why would America need to adjust anything?
you should really cool it with your anti-Semitic remarks about "adjusted for inflation" that's just a lie made up by far righters to make Joe Biden look bad.
>canadian news network
>implying "adjusted income for inflation" ever matches the actual thing
>Expecting American trannies, cultural marxists and proponents of criticial race theory to understand basic economics
>Implying they aren't just mad because the dev told them to stick their cancel culture up their rotting neo veganas
The fact they think they could bully someone from a post USSR occupied country is laughable, they're like the stupid israelites that visit Poland then screech angrily about how white it is.
t.
>Frick, you got more money as well due to inflation. You have right? Both wages and neetbux were adjusted for inflation in Germany a short while ago.
yes and that means you actually have less money you imbecile. Dear god are you stupid.
I got news for you
Here in Germany, everything got 2-3 times more expensive, wages didn't increase, social service increased by 10-30%, and more people fell under the middle-class line (unlike Germany's actual middle class).
This country is a genuine joke, how can you be among the wealthiest, most taxing countries yet treat your citizens like useless slaves?
>how can you be among the wealthiest, most taxing countries
>yet treat your citizens like useless slaves?
Because it's what you are, now shut up and pay your taxes and donate your military equipment to Ukraine
Does this moron realize that Valve takes 30% cut and that he has other people to pay + probably other shit like servers and third party services?
if you already bought the game why do you even care moron? it's not like they will come to your home asking for extra five bucks lol
Hilarious. Look at the Steam reviews now from people with 300 hours, 460 hours, 1000 hours - all saying I THOUGHT DA DEV WAS BETTAR DAN DIS OMG
>autistic devs who manage an autism simulator are being autistic
why would I play this over rimworld or dwarf fortress?
>why should I play the oranges over the apples?
because the apples are cheaper and more delicious than the slop oranges
Inflation huh? Weird how I'm not making an extra dollar for every six
Satisfactory is better
Even Dyson Sphere is better. I don't know who would still play Factorio over these
They're both good and scratch the creative itch in fun and different ways.
I prefer Factorio both of these. I really hated Dyson sphere though, it's a soulless chink game
this looks cool but I would literally die before I could make all of this shit on a solo play. the building is so tedious.
Sell it to me anon.
>Let's Game it out
barf
lol how the frick do you not already own this game? i bought it for $11 in 2014
>And why charge more at this point if you made that much money for a video game?
No company on earth has said, "you know what, I think we've made enough money on this product that we're currently still actively developing and selling, let's lower the price to help customers"
>No company on earth has said,
But it's an indie game.
>No company on earth has said, "you know what, I think we've made enough money on this product that we're currently still actively developing and selling, let's lower the price to help customers"
This. Capitalism suck
>dev made a gorillion dollars
>you could buy it for cheaper prices years ago
>NoW He WaNtS tO ChArGe MoRe!!#!#!#
if this bothers you just fricking pirate it lol
Expect these moronic indie devs to use denuvo once irdeto starts offering cheap licenses for them.
no need game's already on gog lol and has been pirated six ways to sunday for a decade and it still made a gorillion dollars
same greediness with rim world, they won't give discount more than 25% on big sale.
Why the frick would you get mad if you own the game already
>a game where the intent is to get it to play itself
What a bunch of autistic garbage
>a game where the intent is to get it to play itself
It's the most trending genre on Ganker, you know. Look at Cookie Clicker or Vampire Survivors.
Vampire survivors is one of the most overrated games i’ve ever played, if this is the future i want to go back
>a game where the intent is to get it to play itself
i've never seen a game of this genre get anywhere near as complex and nonsensical as the expert mode minecraft modpacks that force all the top magic/tech mods to interact with each other. nothing else can scratch that autistic itch quite as good.
Final Fantasy 12 was ahead of its time and gets unrightful shit for it
FFXII was good. It doesn't even play itself any more than previous FF games where you mostly just press the same commands every turn.
PC gaming in a nutshell.
pleb filtered
I already own it so he's basically making my steam account worth more by keeping the price high, so I guess I'm for it
is the actual amount of money they made off the game? Dude deserve rich but not that much.
I nominate you to be the money czar who determines how much people deserve. (FYI for me the number is high, plz remember)
I admit I say out of jealousy of person who probably deserves it from his hardwork.
They deserve as much money as they can make. It's a video game, a luxury good, not fricking food or medicine. If the price is too high, people simply won't buy it. If people buy it the price is obviously acceptable.
>They deserve as much money as they can make.
No.
Earth has finite resources.
You shouldn't be allowed to just take freely. No one should.
To give to israelitelensky.
Maybe if communist trannies put half the effort they spend calculating someone else's finances into creating something of value they could pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of themselves.
everyone becomes a israelite when the cash flows in. money is a fricking mistake
>someone actually has the power to fight back against the globo homosexual israelites and their fake recessions (due to illegal trade war with russia, their personal desire that harms the people they govern)
>does so
>hurrr israelite
???
Anyway, the entire team probably made around 40 million after all the taxes and steam's cut and that's not a lot considering how many wages the devs got for all these years.
meds, schizo israelite
prove me wrong kid
you've already proven you're moronic and thats a fact. good day
glowie mad
Who else here is hopping between outrage threads to shitpost? XD
Feels good for such a niche game to have multi-thread spergfests, it's like we're one of the big games!
>nooooo you can't just like produce a product and make money
Don't want it? Don't buy it. Stop voting for Leftists and globalists if you want to stop inflation too.
What I don't get is that the people who are mad about this already have the game? So why care
gamers need something to complain about because gaming is dead and there's nothing to play so they create fake outrage to keep them occupied
It sets a horrible precedent and its greedy as frick.
I don't.
>inb4 you were never going to get it
I was.
>paying
anon, i
https://gog-games.com/game/factorio
DON'T CLICK IT IT'S SPYWARE
>what i don't understand is witchcraft
are you dark melanined by chance?
If you care about software quality, long-tail sales are a way better model than the current AAA Hollywood blockbuster model where you spend millions on advertising hoping for that one big perfectly-timed and hyped opening weekend.
>but if Factorio gets away with raising its price, other companies will follow suit!
cool but the deal is you have to make your software as high quality as Factorio
The Factorio way is sanity compared to the most popular vidya pricing schemes, which are banking on a horde of fickle impulsive children with little taste or discernment who consume a lot of advertising.
AAA sucks but indie is not automatically any better. I've played lots of indies and I can say that it's far from a good place even if it's somewhat better than AAA.
The dev's reasoning sounds like a flimsy attempt to squeeze a little more money out of a game that has already generated a lot of money, but who knows if it's out of greed or if he really is autistic about "fairness", but either case does not bode well. If it's the latter it's likely that his hyper-focus on such trivial shit that no other developer cared about gets in the way of development and it could be that development is so slow because he personally makes sure everything is as he wants it to be, like all the optimizations he's been doing over the years despite the game not being that intensive in the first place.
Factorio is the top shelf indie
You don't have to do anything. Just about every monetization scheme AAA's have tried has succeeded. The only failure I can think of is online passes
Hordes of wienersuckers will die defending the likes of EA and Activision
>Hordes of wienersuckers will die defending the likes of EA and Activision
They're few and far between. The real problem is even the people who hate it just concede and pay. People just won't go without their video games.
how did we arrive from
>horse armor for 2$? get the frick out lmao
to paying for fricking lootboxes/gacha with a mere chance of unlocking some shitty skin or char
why do you think videogames want a super wide audience anon
>make your software as high quality as Factorio
factorio is nowhere near high quality, it's just part of a dead genre barely anyone has bothered making games for, so there's almost no competition
It's extremely high quality
It's indie trash that's not worth a single dollar.
Ubisoft thanks you for your service
>WHERES MY TECH DEMO PHOTOREALISM?
>WHERES MY TRENDY ACTORS?
>WHERES MY QUIPPY HUMOR?
>WHERES MY PAY2WIN SERVICES?
>WHERES MY FLAVOR OF THE WEEK GAMEPLAY TREND?
Why do leftists work themselves up into a state when people make money?
nobody should have more than what covers basic needs. this policy shall be enforced by enlightened individuals such as myself, who happen to be exempted from it
It's crazy how there's shills unironically defending a price increase, specially for a game that never goes on sale
Redditors getting more upset over the 5$ price increase on a game everyone either already owns or will never buy, than at the fact gas and food are becoming luxuries is funny to me.
>but not muh heckin profit margins
Nah get fricked, I can barely afford to feed my kids, don't give a frick about this.
You know what they say: a recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when a videogame costs more than you want to pay.
>Other devs who make money
>"OH MY GOD THIS IS WHAT'S RUINING GAMING!"
>When another dev does it
>"lol who cares? It's a good game? Just pirate it lmao"
>Just pirate it lmao
this is always the correct answer
>One more thing. Price of the brick goin' up.
>mad gays that waited 3 years to buy the game on sale, refusing to believe the dev when he said he'd NEVER put it on sale now throwing a tantrum because they got rugpulled on waiting for it to get cheaper
Do I have that right?
A better factory building game is on sale right now
the morons defending this are like the homosexuals who defended multiplayer DLC when it first started trending
>THE POOR COMPANIES HAVE TO MAKE MONEY SOMEHOW!!!!
you are all going to regret this when indie games start raising prices by 5 dollars every year to combat le "inflation"
>ou are all going to regret this when indie games start raising prices by 5 dollars every year to combat le "inflation"
The dev literally said on Reddit he hopes it becomes a standard for all games.
I'd pay $100 for some of the indie games I play
>everyone who wanted the game already bought it
then why increase the price of a game that won't sell more? try to at least make a rational argument, israelite
>didn't link to the post he's replying to
Reddit is that way homosexual
>got the game for 20 bones
>still think the dev is a mongoloid for further increasing the price
Guy literally said we will never have sales because he doesnt want the game to be devalued but is fine with price increases?
Inflation had devalued it. A dollar now is worth far less than a dollar was when it was released. Thanks Biden.
the beginning of greed is always the same. some gays just can't get enough, no matter if they need it or not.
>raising price by $5
>discuss why they are making this move
>obviously people who already bought it can still play it same as before
>announce ahead of time so people can still buy it at old price
I am absolutely flummoxed as to why this is an issue.
Because video games are inherently worthless and no video game is worth more than 20 dollars objectively speaking
>we need $15 dollar minimum wage to keep up with rising cost of living
>inflation isn't real tho
>firsties complaining about another non-problem
just flip burgers for an attosecond more you babies
I really hope these shills in this thread are getting paid, imagine defending this shit for free
Help me understand what the problem is.
>INCREASED PRICES GOOD
You're an actual fricking idiot
We're not talking about food and gas here. It's a video game. Just don't buy it if you think the price is unreasonable. You're not sacrificing anything. I have no sympathy for people who whine about luxury goods being too expensive and the people that sell them being too greedy.
It's not good, but the price of a game going up by $5 bothers me way less than the increases on my phone and electricity bills.
games lose value over time, making them more expensive is shameless greed
if they're that desperate to make money they should make a new game instead of milking an old one
Is Factorio losing value over time when it continues to sell and is popular? It is still being maintained and it’s more expensive to do that than it used to be.
valve games are better and more popular than factorio could ever wish to be, and you can get each for like $2
>games lose value over time
So does money.
lose value over time
if the game sucks maybe
if price meant quality, factorio would be f2p
This is the person who tries to argue why the last of us is actually good
>runs out of arguments
>but what about this other game that has nothing to do with any of this?
you shills are pathetic, you try to defend the game but don't have any arguments to do it
>my only argument is to repeat reddit posts and steam reviews verbatim
Pretty sure I don't actually care to engage you in any real sense
Did you defend Sony and Activision causing almost all games to raise cost to $70 as well? You fricking turboisraelite?
they can increase the price all they want but it's always $0 for me
Supposedly sales haven't really slowed down since release so it'll be interesting to see if this has any impact on sales
Make your own factorio
It seems like people see factorio devs as their peers because they're indie and they go into the "keeping your peers in check" mentality. Giant publishers increasing their prices? Deal with it.
>It seems like people see factorio devs as their peers because they're indie
A mistake morons make over and over and over again. Same as shit like "developer good, publisher bad" and "employee good, company bad" and so on. It's such a juvenile mindset.
Just get this instead
https://store.steampowered.com/app/526870/Satisfactory/
No, I wish this game were good, but it just isn't.
Even now, I still will randomly lose all my character when I start up the game in SINGLEPLAYER, which then involves completely redoing my hotbars, actually finding my old body sitting around invisible somewhere, and then finally playing the game.
The research systems are all over the place and while there is plenty of progression, none of it is organized in a satisfying way.
The game map is constantly being reworked, but is still extremely rough in many areas. Despite being hand-made by the devs, there are literal inescapable holes in the world and blank paint tool spots left in with nothing there.
This is all ignoring the tedious nature of 3D first person building everything one at a time in a game where the scale calls for hundreds of machines in a single process.
Nothing really feels good in Satisfactory. I played up to the last space elevator tier (one research station of four), and just got too fed up.
this post was paid by factorio shills
Your game sucks, sorry.
If you really want alternatives, the chinkshit DSP is unironically better than satisfactory at this point, which is sad.
Minedustry I do not personally care for, but retains the 2D and base defense elements of Factorio.
Hell, play Technodefirmacraft or Create:A&B or even fricking gregtech if you love to grind so much. I do not care.
Just do not play Satisfactory. It is a huge waste.
>getting this upset because he didn't get a (you)
are you israelites getting paid per quote?
>if I shit up the thread with floating comments and reddit tier logic and arguments I'll win
Sure I guess
>ITT: NEETs think they know how inflation works
KEK.
Factorio is not some AAA goyslop or some thrown together early access scam. It's a extremely well put together fun game and worth every penny. If $5 is too much extra you can't afford playing on PC
remove the dev wiener from your throat homosexual
Have you tried not being that fricking poor?
have you tried thinking about what precedent this sets for other indie developers? it's not about being poor, it's about the health of the gaming industry you fricking braindead b***h.
I rather have to pay for good games than all the trash that is "free". Factorio can only take this money because they have unique quality and they know it.
If this set some kind of precedence it would be because there were many games with similar quality with similar longevity out there and that is not the case.
If you don't think letting creators charge whatever they want for their products could ever possibly benefit consumers, you need to log off and read an Econ 101 book. The reason big companies started aggressively pursuing all that pre-order bonus deluxe mega $$$ editions and season passes and micro transactions and 60+10+20+10 bullshit pricing schemes and all their psychological tricks is because the videogame market is stupidly artificial because their customers are a bunch of IGNORANT CHILDREN who believe dogmatic shit about much a game "should" cost. It's a bunch of cult belief nonsense and customers REEEEE at the idea of prices fluctuating (you know, like ANYTHING ELSE) but will somehow do mental gymnastics to justify why the mega deluxe $100 version is "worth it" because you "get stuff", or at least they will fall for all the nasty psychological tricks the companies employ.
The Factorio way is the right way. That's how a healthy market should function. "I made thing. Here is price. Price is up to me. Buy or no buy." If all you can see is "price go up = BAD ENEMY" you are either low IQ or small brained, there's simply no way around it. There's nothing to even "defend" here! It's just how buying and selling shit works!
>If you don't think letting creators charge whatever they want for their products could ever possibly benefit consumers, you need to log off and read an Econ 101 book.
>The reason big companies started aggressively pursuing all that pre-order bonus deluxe mega $$$ editions and season passes and micro transactions and 60+10+20+10 bullshit pricing schemes and all their psychological tricks is because the videogame market is stupidly artificial because their customers are a bunch of IGNORANT CHILDREN who believe dogmatic shit about much a game "should" cost
Source?
Oh wait you just pulled it out of your ass.
I mean, it's also because they're greedy and saw the opportunity, don't get me wrong, but "we can't just increase the price, everyone knows a new game just costs $60 dollars, it just does" is a big part of it, yes.
If I choose not to spend more than $60 on a game that's my business. It's not my problem if that upsets you. People don't spend more than they think something is worth. That's just how the economy works
>The Factorio way is the right way. That's how a healthy market should function. "I made thing. Here is price. Price is up to me. Buy or no buy." If all you can see is "price go up = BAD ENEMY" you are either low IQ or small brained, there's simply no way around it. There's nothing to even "defend" here! It's just how buying and selling shit works!
/thread
>game companies shouldn't even come up with an excuse to upcharge their game with extra meaningless content, they should just hike it up for no reason this is better
Yes, because that is 10000% more transparent to the consumer, who can make a more easily informed decision about whether it's worth their money or not. It's not fricking insulin. It would also make it even easier for people to compare prices between games if people want to take the "why should I buy X for N$ if I can get Y for less?"
Except things like deluxe editions are an optional price hike meanwhile the other is a forced price hike. Let me put it this way, which is better
base: $60, deluxe: $80
or
base: $70
these games won't drop in price by the way
>these games won't drop in price by the way
this is a false conditional tho
everything is subjected to change if it doesn't sell.
and that's a main argument for our side, if you think it's worth 70 bucks then price it as such, if the market doesn't buy it at that price point then you have to lower it, it's that simple.
if you think the current price point is too low, increase it, see how to market feels about it, if they continue to buy it then it's worth the new price point.
i don't mind games being 70 bucks, i mind the idea that every triple a game thinks they're worth 70 bucks, which comes from the mentality that triple a games are worth X amount and indie games are worth Y amount, which has nothing to do with this conversation
>i don't mind games being 70 bucks, i mind the idea that every triple a game thinks they're worth 70 bucks
They still sell at that price. The market has had it's say so what's the problem?
A lot of games absolutely don't sell at the 70 dollar price tag, not even at 60, that's why it's becoming more and more common for certain triple a games to release and go on sale for almost half price 2 weeks later
yes, unironically
just tell me how much you think it's worth and i'll vote with my wallet, i prefer that over dishonesty and marketing tricks to try and trick me into buying your shit at certain times, like the fricking chinese new year
giving it an excuse is giving the practice cover instead of it being out in the open for the buyer to see
like think of all those service fees, and installation charges, and upkeep whatever fees companies like to stack on top of the base fee that they don't tell you about until you read the fine print. if they were forced to put the total price up front, it would be much easier to do comparison shopping. obviously not a perfect analogy but vidya marketing and prices uses the same type of tactics to make people think oh, it's okay, I'm augmenting my pre-order! the Factorio price is even a flat dollar amount instead of 29.99 which is one of the oldest trick in the book
>the price of literally everything goes up
Inflation is a myth, the Biden economy is great, just learn to code brah
>the price of this one luxury item which was already sold at a discount price also goes up
Whoa, greedy israelites fleecing me for my precious dollarinos
>something something it's not ok when Nintendo does it or some meme crap
Unlike most of the people in this thread I remember buying games for far cheaper than they currently cost, but we don't have a half dozen literal reddit screenshot threads freaking out over it every day for some reason
>Nuuu, you can't defend devs that actually work hard and produce their own product
>Also, brb, going to go deepthroat AAA game made by EA in one of my game journo reviews
Degenerates like you deserve worse than the cross.
i haven't bought an AAA game since fallout 4 moron. i wouldn't have a problem if the factorio devs decided to make something new like a sequel and charged 60 dollars for it. the problem is that they are raising the price for a game that is nearly a decade old, while adding nothing extraordinary or game-changing to the game. they should've done what the risk of rain devs did.
>doesnt defend an indie raising prices arbitrarily
>so that means he would defend AAA shitstudios doing the same
You are mindbroken
Already bought the game, still calling out the dev as a israelite. And you're one too, shill.
morons like this are why nintendo sells old roms for $60
>I know you hate AAA companies for being greedy, but we're just an indie studio being greedy so it's okay
>OP
>buy game
>give negative review
>refund
>pirate
>all these cucks defending the price raise
imagine if it was EA or ATVI or any other big publisher how much these homosexuals would seethe... oh wait, they've been seething about games becoming $70
it's okay when indie shitter does it
the problem of inflation isn't just that "but the dollar worth less now than a year ago" it's that people also are earning LESS. So some homosexual being able to spend 30 dollarydoos before might not be able to spend the current equivalent when he's actually poorer
It's not foreign game developers' fault that you're poor.
no it's thanks to corpo greedy, a savage ice monkey and his stupid little war and chink lab virus escaping out of its lab
did that person forget to take the steam split into account? Either way it's still a lot
Who the frick doesn't own factorio by now that wants it
then why increase the price if it's not going to sell more?
The poor troon with nothing but a burlap sack to xher name who was saving up for the last seven years since the game got on early access.
hahaha good shit anon
Marketing 101
Don't make the new DLC cost more than the game. So increase the base cost first.
>31 developers
so let's say 50 employees including non development staff, factorio was released in 2016 and probably in development a few years prior.
so 10 years, 50 employees at 40k/yr/employee that is 20 million + taxes + office and rent + supplies
It did not have 50 devs for all 10 years.
And they were not paid 40K .
protip to pay someone 20k you need to actually spend 40k-50k
Wrong, their development team bloated when they started work on the DLC which is recent.
So what I'm reading is: the 100 mil has been more than enough to cover all of their expenses and have plenty left over, thus making the price increase unjustified greed, yeah?
They can do what they want, it's their game. Just pirate it.
>thread b***hing about a price hike for inflation
>full of morons that don't know how money works
every time
i also chose to believe that all of these factorio b***hing threads are made by 1 poster
>i also chose to believe that all of these factorio b***hing threads are made by 1 poster
He automated the process
Factorio is worth more than any AAA trash in recent years, it should cost 60$
>something I don't profit from should cost more
Why do people do this? I just don't get it. What's in it for you?
Delicious cummies
justice
Mindbroken goyim slaves who exist to lick the boot.
It's the satisfactory dev trying to drive people away from the competition
Why shouldn't I encourage the developers who made an amazing game to get more rewarded for it?
Because you don't profit off of it you bootlicking homosexual.
I don't need to profit from it
>bootlicking
not what that word means, Factorio is not The Man keeping you down
>you can't bootlick for a corporation
It's you who needs to learn the meaning of words.
The guy is right. Factorio is an old game now. There's literally no justifiable reason why it should be more than 10 bucks for the game. 15, maximum, and then the owner of the company thst made thag game go and kiss my fricking taint. He's earned enough fricking money. 100 million dollars for a shitty indie game is absolutely phenomenally well done and is a fine achievement and is more than enough to earn for a small indie game. Remember, inflation may be a c**t, but 100 million u.s. dollars is still a frick-ton of money.
This is why videogames are dead, that amount of money made for a "game" that is just a working simulator, what is fun about it? Does it even have music that is not just background noise? What is engaging about it?
Weird, I can still get it for $0.00
I have always avoided it because I thought 30 bucks was too much for it, now that it's 35 nothing has changed for me. If anything I'm likely to pirate it and sell the files on ebay for like 15 bucks for shits and gigs.
Trannies out in full force.
This is fake outrage manufactured, because the dev told trannies to frick off. So now they're using any angle and shill as much as possible against him.
trannies have nothing to do with this you mindbroken autist
see
you have provided nothing other than your (or someone else's) incredibly autistic compulsion to make everything about the object of their obsession.
>noooo stop looking, stop exposing our shill campaign NOOO
I genuinely pity you. rent free is an understatement, you've given them the deed to the house
What's so fricking funny about that? Suicide isn't something to joke about.
TL;DR Black person
Or the dev is just a israelite
I actually own the game so I can say this
Except he isn't. I also own the game and can say this.
yep
that was nothing compared to the troony outrage
I hate how trannies can get involved in something and then every controversy is somehow related to them
I was gonna buy it but if they're just gonna jack up the price arbitrarily every few years they can eat my ass
Crazy how lefties and trannies seethe over a simple price increase for inflation.
not very crazy at all considering literally no one else is doing this other than sony, and the reaction to it is identical. imagine defending anti consumer practices lmao
>Defending israeli swindling to own the libs
the only principle they have is if it triggers the libs or not. the israelites couldn't ask for better useful idiots
lmao the satisfactory shill thinks im going to buy his troony dev shit lmao
https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=satisfactory&cat=0
>each copy is $30
First line of this is utter horseshit, virtually every game on steam i know of does regional pricing, you seriously think a random Russian or BR is gonna drop $30 on Factorio? Even AAA doesn't get away with that.
The vast majorigy of you are pathetic fricking boot-lickers and defend a man who made over 100 million dollars. You should all be deeply fricking ashamed of yourselves.
>money bad
damn... i guess all rich people are going to stop charging people money because they are already rich
op saved the world
Imagine paying $30 for the low-effort ripoff of a free game. The fricking state of some of you.
Money dont change people, just help them become his true self.
you conservacucks are so funny, always creaming yourselves over the free market but when a small independent dev decides to factor $5 into the price of his beloved, high quality, reasonably-priced game, you all lose your shit over it. and you can never pirate it without letting eeeeeveryone know you did it! then you blame gay people because you don't know how else to process things. fascist americucks stay illiterate, stay making 2009 minimum wage, and stay losing.
you troonys are so funny with your mutilated penis and lifelong debilitating mental illness that will ultimately make you go insane unless you dont find proper psychological help.
you guys are more mentally ill than the trannies at this point. all day every day arguing in circles over the same bits of clickbait and outrage, to the point where you lot can't even look at a regular woman without thinking they might be a troony. there's a guy in this very thread trying to turn this into a circlejerk over the same old troony outrage as if these 2 incidents are related, it's actually insane.
wow, good point. certainly proves you have any coherent thoughts about video game economics and are not constantly seething about gay people and bringing up trans wiener in the middle of unrelated convos
Everybody who wanted to buy the game already did, who exactly is outraged?
People who believe that money somehow relates to labor instead of being completely made up and arbitrary.
>People who believe that money somehow relates to labor
If the value of money is related to the value of labor, adjusting for inflation would be the proper thing to do.
>who cares if such and such dev does a scummy thing that others might replicate if it appears to generate them more revenue, I already bought this singular game!
remember horse armor?
>scummy
>generate more revenue
It's a bad buisness move in every way because it just scares off potential customers who would have otherwise bought it and be interested in future products. Do you think all those giant corporations hold sales out of the goodness of their hearts? Then again all the free publicity this outrage is earning him might make up the difference anyway.
you underestimate how moronic the average consumer of vidya is, if people see that they can get away with raising the price of their shit they will do it.
There are no sales ever. The dev has a monopoly on Factorio.
>apples and oranges
how do you figure? both are shitty practices that, in the case of horse armor, was mimicked across the entire industry leading up to basically every game selling cosmetics that used to be free. if devs can see that raising their prices of aging games can generate them more money you'll see the same repeated across the board
>why charge more at this point
To make more money.
kek is he moronic? steam takes 30% of all sales from your literal pocket because frick you. He didn't make that much money.
Pirated hundreds of copies due to this dev being a homosexual. Enjoy losing even more money now that it's $35 dipshit.
Jobless losers itt telling other people how much money they should make.
>each copy is $30
incorrect many of those sales were alpha/beta and not at full cost.
LMAO HE GOT THE CLOWNED EMOJI
HE IS A FRICKING CLOWN
gay drama, fabricated by people who wouldn't buy the game anyway.
i'm pretty sure the game has had significantly lower price points, like around the 20-25 mark.
why didn't he buy it then if this 5 dollar difference reeally upsets him that much?
plus, as far as i'm concerned, anyone can price anything at any point. it's up to the consumers to agree or disagree with certain pricepoints. he clearly doesn't, so why doesn't he frick off somewhere else instead of throwing a fit about it?
the whole thing just smells like someone trying to start a fire
>noooo don't discuss why you dislike a thing on the internet
eat shit homosexual
the issue is that the tantrum won't get them to drop the price, the only thing that will is not buying the game
so why the frick would they care that people who haven't bought the game are throwing a fit about it if the sales keep up with the price increase?
that's why i'm calling the drama fake and gay, i don't think those people would have bought factorio anyway
a product is worth as much as you're willing to pay for it, they increased it knowing people would still buy it at the 35 price point, which means it's worth 35 bucks
don't like it? pirate it, or don't buy it, maybe they'll decrease it again
bitching won't solve shit because they know you weren't going to buy it regardless, so why the frick should they care what you have to say about it.
all the dude in op's screencap is doing is shitting up the steam forum
your nose is showing israelite
so is your autism
idk why you keep mentioning this shithole as an excuse, i know this is a shithole, i won't defend this shithole
i'm just calling the OP of that streamthread a homosexual who wouldn't buy the game anyway and is just stirring up gay drama
the devs stirred up the drama by raising the price of their game despite it's age, usually it works in reverse. don't act surprised people are reacting poorly to this, people didn't react great to new games being priced at 70 I don't see why that reaction would change here
They maybe invited it, but I think the people who are complaining are dishonest.
Factorio always had a no sale practice, the devs are infamous for it, they knew the price-point for ages and it only kept on increasing over the years. The people who are complaining about it were never going to buy the game if there was no price increase.
Do you really want me to say "No, I'm not", and if so will you believe me?
I think the price point itself already tells the whole story, which is my point. Shitting up the steam forums won't do any change, not buying will, and if people see the price and consider it to be worth the price-point they'll buy it, which in turn justifies the price-point which makes this entire fake drama pointless.
With that said, if the inflation story is fake and gay then it is sussy by the devs, I'd prefer an honest statement about them thinking it's worth the 35 dollar price tag
>The people who are complaining about it were never going to buy the game if there was no price increase.
Don't mind me just calling out another lying israelite. Most of the complaints are by people who own the game.
No they're not you lying homosexual, you can see who owns the game and who doesn't on the steam forums
Oh so those are the people review bombing then, gotcha. Lying israelites gonna lie.
The so called "review bombing" is so pathetic in terms of numbers that it doesn't even surpass the july 2022 regional price issue, get real you loser
Come up with better excuses
>doesn't deny he's a israelite
yes lets all lay down and take the price increases like good little piggies. If you see someone being greedy turn the other way and accept it
>discussion of this thing won't enact change so no one should discuss it at all
sure as hell never stops this place lmao
The little tantrum will make more future customers aware that they're getting less value for their investment. No, inflation isn't doing this. You have to take the entire market into account for that and 7 year old products have not increased in price across the entire market unless you count resellers which are irrelevant in this case
>video game
>investment
Expense then. I don't give a frick. You know what I meant
How many hours of game time are we stretching that $5 over?
>5/1000
>$0.005
OH MY GOD NO
NO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Who knows. The only certainty is that the game has dropped in value by 14%
>fabricated by people who wouldn't buy the game anyway.
It's being fabricated by the troons because they couldn't frick Factorio-dev over posting some rando coder shit years ago.
Remember, they still have scorched buttholes over Gamergate and treat it like their own personal scourging of the temple.
You think they won't use any excuse they can find?
Are these troons in the room with us right now?
Would seem so from how quickly you jumped on my post.
>everyone who disagrees with me is a troony
>Trannies are the only people who don't want the price of games to go up every year
Okay, Moshe.
>scourging of the temple
Tell me you are a israelite without telling me you are a israelite.
>Clearly you're a israelite for talking positively about the event where the israelites were kicked out the temple for their bullshit
This is your-
Who am I kidding you don't have a brain.
>why doesn't he frick off somewhere else instead of throwing a fit about it
You're saying this on Ganker of all places. I don't think I've ever seen a more ironic post
yes goyim defend the price increases, we must spend more for a 7 year old game
Another W for Terraria devs
>still getting updates
>hours of fun
>modloader support straight on steam
>big boob resource packs
>"9.99"
>in reality half of that because it goes on dale every 2 days
The devs should increase the DLC price too.
>game is 7 years old
>raise the base msrp
Well that's a new one.
>Paying any amount of money for yet another lazily made top down perspective game
Lol you morons pay $30 for farmville too?
The factorio dev is a turboautist who never puts the game on sale because it would devalue his game even though it'd almost definitely generate more money, no amount of faux outrage is going to make him undo this. Hell if he really made 100 million then he could set the game at 1000 dollars and never sell another copy and still come off fine.
>designs a factory that prints money
Thats piss all money. You have you divide it by valves cut, then taxes, then salaries for like, 10 years of development?
Everyone is increasing games costs due to inflation get over it.
>tens of millions of US dollars minimum
>piss all money
>in the the Czech Republic
Yes, welcome to the real world. Video game devs dont become millionaires except in extreme cases. The fees for everything plus taxes plus the time it takes to make a game kills profits.
>$100 million
assuming all profits are lowered 20% by valve, and 31 employees as the OP says, thats only 2.5 mil per person, and that doesn't include any operating costs or taxes. 2.5 mil over like 6 years is good money, but it's not the implication they want you to think it is by crying about 100 mil
There's no way he has 31 employees, this game could easily be made by a single person.
There are a frickton of early access games that raise prices as they get more content.
Only difference here is that they are raising the price after release.
Do people actually pay for factorio? I thought it was one of those games people just pirate lmao. Why in the world someone pay for this garbage?
Everyone pirate and then they pay if they like it and want mods etc later
you don't need to own the game to install mods
I think you have to use the official ingame mod shop. Makes it easy
makes it easier, but you can still mod if you pirate
Who fricking cares. who is still waiting to buy this game but hasn't done it yet? If you've been spending years to scrape up $30 and haven't figured out how yet, kys
This is just like waiters
they try to shame you calling you poor for not giving the $5 they're begging for
to be fair wait staff in the US get paid below minimum wage because owners can cuck their customers into paying their wages for them, this is more like a millionaire shaming you for not paying them even more money
We are in the endgame of capitalism.
always just pirated factorio because the devs are turbo autismo and never put it on sale
good game though
>if you don't support a price increase for no reason then you support trannies
absolute state of Ganker and its contrarianism
>Huge correlation between trannies and communists
>Phrases like 'Endgame of Capitalism' pop up whenever communists come around to preach from their bible
And then people wonder how we know who you are.
you don't need to be a communist to not be a corporate bootlicker, being able to use your brain is enough
You don't need to be a corporate bootlicker to want to see an independent company succeed
they already succeeded before increasing the prices
Success is a continual process. Who's to say that money isn't going directly in to the workers pocket?
>Small Indy studio made a game I personally enjoy
>REEE, CORPROATE BOOTLICKER
And this is how everyone knows your a commuBlack person, you have a religious hatred of 'Corporations' regardless of the context.
Because you have a pathological hatred of the idea of people who you consider stupider than you actually being successful because, unlike you, they're not complete fricking losers.
Cope and intellectualize all you like.
That's a convenient scapegoat. Seems like everything bad is trannies these days
classic right wing rhetoric, it's always the hip new minority that is the cause of everything awful on the planet.
>only commies can be critical of the current economic system
go outside anon
>Communism is when people voice their displeasure about a product
>culture war has become so deeply ingrained it now gets Ganker to defend price hikes
I love this website in the year of our lord 2023
Magatards really are stupid.
It's been 3 years you need to move on
Who the frick doesn't own this game by this point if they have any interest in it? It doesn't go on sale, it has been $30 consistently since 2018, either buy it or don't buy it. They even gave notice of the price increase.
There are regional prices that you need to consider. I paid the equivalent of $15 for the game, that's the official price in my country.
>why charge more at this point
Because the devs think it'll be more profitable.
Given Factorio's development history, I suppose the expansion must not be coming along well in the slightest if now they're trying to cash out early.
>if you're not a israelite you're a troony
you're so desperate to beg for money and don't even know what to say anymore
>he already made money so he should give the game for free reeeee
frick off commie
Now subtract steams cut, dev salaries, and office rent, utilities and business expenses from that
I remember this was the same excuse used to defend the $70 price increase
>We only profited tens of millions of dollars, we are struggling
if you'd work as much as you did shitposting about factorio, you'd have enough money to buy the game ten times over you sorry broke fricks
You think having $300 you your name is an achievement? You must be American
>Doesn't effect anyone who already bought the game
>Anyone else had years to buy the game anyway
People are so desperate to constantly be upset about something.
>inflation doesn't effect you if you make money
very hot take
If youre upset it costs $35 just wait and buy it when it costs $40
Maybe I will. That'll show you.
In fact I'll even wait until it's $50 just to prove I'm not poor
Id love to do that but I bought it when it was in beta for $20 so I never can 🙁
>Play for several hours in the tutorial, having fun
>Quit
>Want to play Factorio again but forgot how to play
>Play several hours into the tutorial again, having fun
>Rinse and repeat
Holy frick my attention span is horrible but I get the addictiveness to it.
ahahahahahahahhahaa what a israelite
good
based devs deserve it
Can someone put a translucent giga chad behind this image? Would be funny as frick
>All you need to do to sell horse armor to Ganker is say the words "cancel culture"
Gankerners are the like the most useful idiots the world has ever fricking seen.
lol i have no idea what theyre talking about either
They made a blog post talking about programming shit where they link to a video about it. Dude in the video once upon a time said players shouldn't kneel at football matches. Redditroons want them to disavow.
This post explains what happened and the troony outrage
>A single Sargon tier take justifies israeli behavior
>a single
your first mistake
What's wrong with breathing through your mouth? I do it all the time
Mate. Simply do not buy it. If you feel it is unfair, do not participate. It is that simple. I will no longer pander to you homosexuals. If you all STOPPED buying things you felt were unfair, things wouldn't be this way. Somehow you feel like your access to video games is essential and so ultimately worth any cost of admission - and you think complaining is the answer? Lmao, simply lmao.
The bonkers thing about that person who hates "promoting Uncle Bob" is that their reasoning is that people might get exposed to his harmful views, but then they link to a summary of his harmful views! Doing that undoubtedly "exposed" a bunch of people that would otherwise had remained blissfully ignorant. Idiots like this seem to think "it's okay that I'm retweeting and signal-boosting as long as it's got my own text underneath saying how bad it is." Well not if your argument is about harmful exposure, dummy. These clowns think they're some kind of cultural curators when they're actually helping spread the ideas they hate so much.
tl;dr everyone come look at this thing you shouldn't look at, that way you'll know it's bad
Same goes when the idiots go around whining about some artist making e-girl drawings, all while posting censored variants and linking their pages. Watch said artist get a bunch of follows as a result.
And most of the time, the ones who whine turn out to have skeletons in their closet. The Dr. Pizza effect applies as usual
pretty sure everyone that wanted the game already bought it
>oh no people are being mean to the poor impoverished devs
Don't beat the meat if you can't take the heat
Yes that is unacceptable. It's an old game and you don't even get a physical copy.
and that is why I won't be buying any of his products now or ever. your wallet is the only way devs this stuck-up will ever learn.
Just stop being poor. When the devs raise the price to $100 in a year or two it'll still be worth it. You're just too poor that's why you're complaining. They should raise the price of the DLC too.
>Just stop being poor.
Or don't - and just spend within your means. Both work 🙂
>You're just too poor that's why you're complaining.
typical leftist mindset
>not being able to dump 35$ for entertainment
Grim. Get a job, or work harder or something
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
*hand rubbing intensifies*
35% of that goes to Steam, no? And Factorio has a sizeable dev team, no?
>Yes I know you spent several years of your life on this and are still working on it
>And I know I would spent $5 on a onions-milk latte without even thinking about it
>But CAPITALISM HAS FAILED BECAUSE MUH BING BANG WAHOO WENT UP (Not even in line with inflation, less than in line with it; because of policies I asked for mind you), GET THE ROPES BOYS
Proves how many zoomers are commies. They've never operated a business if you think you get to pocket 100% of what you earn.
Goddamn this thread is depressing. Get a job, preferably not under some major corp so you can get an idea of how much overhead costs are.
Also, thank your Uncle Joe for 87,000 more IRS employees.
>if you don't support israelites... you're a commie!
lol