Fake Games

Due to the rising costs of games, fakes are starting to become more common over here in Japan. One of my friends picked this up without realizing, and I accidentally bought a fake Mega Drive game a while back. They used to be incredibly rare of here but now they're becoming more common.

The one that my buddy found (pic related) is an obvious fake, but there have been some very realistic ones making the rounds as well. Be careful if you're buying Japanese games, we're now starting to move into the era where you have to open games up to confirm if they're real.

Obviously this isn't a problem if you emulate but I'm sure someone will comment and say "jUst EmuLAtE" anyway.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >starting to become more common over here in Japan
    Oh. This homosexual again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >post helpful advice for anyone importing games from Japan
      >Oh. This homosexual again.
      ?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clutching your pearls because you just learned about something that's been going on for years isn't posting helpful advice. Just a desperate cry for attention.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fakes in Japan has not been going on for years. Japanese games were cheap for a long time so there were no fakes because they would have been more expensive than original copies. Now fakes are becoming very common in Japan.

          But this looks absolutely horrendous. Did your friend not even look at the game once he got it?
          It only says GAME on the cart, the sticker is all rounded, colors bad, logos are smudged and nearly unrecognizable.
          And I agree with the rest, shitty bootlegs have existed for a long time. And anyone actually falling for one of this quality needs to get glasses or something.

          Your friend is a braindead subhuman just like you

          The huge GAME on the cartridge is a dead give away, plastic screws are too.
          Genesis can be kinda hard since the labels were printed diffrently but the few i have use bad art thats pretty clear to be a fake.
          [...]
          Bought a fake fire red inexcitememt once, $20 lesson learned. Aside from the cart being a shade of wrong red, the sticker wasnt glittery. It played fine but i think the battery solder or connection was loose. I had to open it up and tinker with it. I dont mind fakes being out there as long as its bought and sold as fake. I dont buy them often but i do have a few.

          He was buying multiple games and didn't realize until after he went home and pulled out the ISO to clean the pins.

          Real-looking fakes have become very common for FC, SFC, PCE, and GBA.

          The PCE ones scare me because it's not like you can open them up with a screwdriver. One shop I frequent had purposefully gotten some fakes to compare and see if they could figure out a way to tell them apart but it was identical to the real thing. I'm not collecting Hu-Cards anymore, I refuse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Fakes in Japan has not been going on for years.
            Yes they have. I was getting bootlegs in Japan before you were born, ya dumb zoomie.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No you weren't. In 20+ years of collecting I have never seen a fake in a physical Japanese shop until fairly recently.

              >The PCE ones scare me because it's not like you can open them up with a screwdriver.
              Dumb but serious question:
              If it gets to the point where bootlegs are indistinguishable from the real thing AND there's no way to actually open up the cartridge to check if it's legitimate or not, how does the market react or fight against it? If there's no way to tell if something's a bootleg, can a bootleg still be considered a bootleg?
              Granted, my scenario a ways off given that even the best bootlegs are only 99.9% accurate, but still.

              Imagine your game poops out one day. In the case of PCE, You get a nice and pull up the black area to expose the circuits, and that's when you find out your game is fake. How would you react? Just because something looks real from the outside doesn't mean it's going to perform the same as real game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How would you react?
                I definitely wouldn't like it. With the way that anon phrased it, it sounded like you couldn't open those cards at all, but I must've misinterpreted him.
                I'm not arguing in favor of bootlegs with my initial post, by the way. I'd only just assumed the Hu-Cards were unserviceable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're not serviceable. The way they're opened up is by lifting up that black piece. There's no other way to access the circuits. It's one of those situations where TECHNICALLY you can do it, but realistically it's not going to happen. But real hu-cards are robust and they won't randomly die on you like the fakes do. The fakes work more like those cheap Chinese thumb drives that just randomly stop working one day. Someone has gotten insanely good at putting that in a take housing that looks exactly like the originals.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. I've never collected for PCE so I wasn't aware of that.
                Thanks anon. You taught me something new today.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't exist. Show me even one. The PCEWorks fakes are obviously so fake that you'd have to be a literal moron to think they were real

                No you weren't. In 20+ years of collecting I have never seen a fake in a physical Japanese shop until fairly recently.
                [...]
                Imagine your game poops out one day. In the case of PCE, You get a nice and pull up the black area to expose the circuits, and that's when you find out your game is fake. How would you react? Just because something looks real from the outside doesn't mean it's going to perform the same as real game.

                Same here, I have yet to see one. A friend did find one recently but it was a bootleg of an American game which was pretty funny, it was also obviously fricking fake even inside the glass case. He told the shopkeeper and they removed it

                Anon, I've been in Japan collecting games since 2003. Shut the frick up, you don't know anything about this topic. Fakes were never common over here and when they started to appear it was only ever online, now they're becoming a problem in physical stores because there's fakes that are being passed off as real copies. That was NEVER a problem in the past.

                I'm sure you saw fakes on ebay or fake Mega Drive games on Mercari, but those were never being sold at game stores and thrift stores here and shops would never knowingly sell a fake item because it's illegal and can cost them their business. But now people are popping seemingly-real games open and finding out that they're fake.

                it happens but still isn't super common. My friend did get a fake Battle Mania from book off a few years ago. That was really annoying for him to resolve. Always check at the store before you leave, if they don't let you look don't buy. But for 2000 yen games I don't really give a frick i'm not poor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The PCEWorks fakes are obviously so fake that you'd have to be a literal moron to think they were real
                hes talking about recent stuff, its been a big topic on twitter. go follow japanese accounts, there's lots of photos going around.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I have. Your ignorance in inexperience proves nothing other than that you are ignorant and inexperienced. I'd be shocked if you have 20+ years of existing.

                They're not serviceable. The way they're opened up is by lifting up that black piece. There's no other way to access the circuits. It's one of those situations where TECHNICALLY you can do it, but realistically it's not going to happen. But real hu-cards are robust and they won't randomly die on you like the fakes do. The fakes work more like those cheap Chinese thumb drives that just randomly stop working one day. Someone has gotten insanely good at putting that in a take housing that looks exactly like the originals.

                >Someone has gotten insanely good at putting that in a take housing that looks exactly like the originals.
                They got that good long before you even pretend you started collecting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, I've been in Japan collecting games since 2003. Shut the frick up, you don't know anything about this topic. Fakes were never common over here and when they started to appear it was only ever online, now they're becoming a problem in physical stores because there's fakes that are being passed off as real copies. That was NEVER a problem in the past.

                I'm sure you saw fakes on ebay or fake Mega Drive games on Mercari, but those were never being sold at game stores and thrift stores here and shops would never knowingly sell a fake item because it's illegal and can cost them their business. But now people are popping seemingly-real games open and finding out that they're fake.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More like you've been larping since you were born in 2003. You've already established yourself as a bullshitter. There's no reason to believe anything you say.
                >when they started to appear it was only ever online
                >That was NEVER a problem in the past.
                More easily verifiable bullshit that confirms you're a larping zoomer
                >But now people are popping seemingly-real games open and finding out that they're fake.
                >now
                Yes. Now you're old enough to play with daddys tools and you saw a youtube and monkey see monkey do. Try opening up some of the old games you totally bought 20+ years ago and see if there are any fakes. I can't wait to see what unbelievable bullshit you come up with on that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not replying to you anymore. I hope you get fakes, schizo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not replying to you anymore.
                Probably a good idea. You just keep digging yourself a deeper hole each time you do. And coming up with a good lie about why you never checked any of these carts you've been collecting for 20+ years and why you can't do it now is beyond your larpabilities.
                >i-i-i hope you get fakes
                Me too. I collect them. Been doing it since the 80's. All over the world. Including Japan. That's why I know you're a clueless little zoomzoom.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The PCE ones scare me because it's not like you can open them up with a screwdriver.
            Dumb but serious question:
            If it gets to the point where bootlegs are indistinguishable from the real thing AND there's no way to actually open up the cartridge to check if it's legitimate or not, how does the market react or fight against it? If there's no way to tell if something's a bootleg, can a bootleg still be considered a bootleg?
            Granted, my scenario a ways off given that even the best bootlegs are only 99.9% accurate, but still.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we're now starting to move into the era where you have to open games up to confirm if they're real.
    We are in the era that counterfeits are indistinguishable from the real thing without disassembling them!? Cool!
    I am sticking to my flashcarts though. Enjoy your rotting plastic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off, why are you here then you fricking wiener goblin

      https://i.imgur.com/hO4jnXw.jpg

      Due to the rising costs of games, fakes are starting to become more common over here in Japan. One of my friends picked this up without realizing, and I accidentally bought a fake Mega Drive game a while back. They used to be incredibly rare of here but now they're becoming more common.

      The one that my buddy found (pic related) is an obvious fake, but there have been some very realistic ones making the rounds as well. Be careful if you're buying Japanese games, we're now starting to move into the era where you have to open games up to confirm if they're real.

      Obviously this isn't a problem if you emulate but I'm sure someone will comment and say "jUst EmuLAtE" anyway.

      They're not that common but it does happen. Mega Drive are the most common of all. It's really not a huge deal. If you're paying more than 1万 you should probably ask them to open it so you can carefully inspect it. Still easy to tell by the texture and print quality.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The huge GAME on the cartridge is a dead give away, plastic screws are too.
        Genesis can be kinda hard since the labels were printed diffrently but the few i have use bad art thats pretty clear to be a fake.

        I'm all for repos in the market.
        The only real issue I have ran into with them is the Pokémon games not working with stadium.

        Bought a fake fire red inexcitememt once, $20 lesson learned. Aside from the cart being a shade of wrong red, the sticker wasnt glittery. It played fine but i think the battery solder or connection was loose. I had to open it up and tinker with it. I dont mind fakes being out there as long as its bought and sold as fake. I dont buy them often but i do have a few.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the guy that says "rotting plastic" was an emugay. Are your plastic-encased consoles somehow not rotting and only cartridges are?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flashcarts and emulation are the way. 100% original is a fools game. May as well collect beanie babies.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like a good thing. Will drive prices down for people that just wanna play on original hardware and make coomlectors mad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fakes selling for the price of real games doesn't drive down prices, moron. In fact, it drives up the price of real copies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why wouldn't it? There's now more supply.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Coomlector here. Fakes don't bother me. Even the ones that casuals think are "indistinguishable" from originals are laughably easy to detect if you handle these items on a daily basis. You can get all the tools you need to verify any game with 100% certainty for under $50. Just do your due diligence.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Copyright law is an injustice in its current form. The Chinese are doing all of us a favor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Copyright law is an injustice in its current form. The Chinese are doing all of us a favor.
      Collectors want original. If I just wanted the game I'd pirate it obviously, not buy overpriced fake.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Collectors

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm all for repos in the market.
    The only real issue I have ran into with them is the Pokémon games not working with stadium.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Japanese took it for granted that shops with hundreds or even thousands of cheap old games would be there forever, I know the wake up call is harsh, time to get over it and emulate instead of thinking Nintendo would jail you for it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are scenes for smaller fighting games where the Japenese players totally lack an online playerbase, even now that rollback exists, because they're most of them are afraid to emulate. They're truly buck broken

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >totally lack an online playerbase
        Oh nooo, why can’t I play against these Japanese players who probably have a local in-person scene for these games, which is preferable anyway?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The japanese get to look at each other and yell at each other as they play
        Lucky~

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know people do that over here too, right? There are plenty of local fighting game clubs. The one closest to you probably has more rages than any Japanese club too.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But this looks absolutely horrendous. Did your friend not even look at the game once he got it?
    It only says GAME on the cart, the sticker is all rounded, colors bad, logos are smudged and nearly unrecognizable.
    And I agree with the rest, shitty bootlegs have existed for a long time. And anyone actually falling for one of this quality needs to get glasses or something.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your friend is a braindead subhuman just like you

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just emulate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Emulation is fine for what it is, but it's ultimately a cope for people who can't afford real hardware and a collection of games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        plenty of people with money use emulation only, and these flash carts aren't exactly cheap, same goes for MAME and other physical shit you can buy. If emulation is a cope, then collecting is just chasing the dragon that is your childhood.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You probably wouldn't even be still playing old games if emulation didn't exist. Regardless of whether you emulate yourself, emulation, free and paying, is what made the hobby popular. What do you think made it super easy to catalog all the games? To talk about them, to document them, review them, post screenshots and videos, and generally drive up the discussion and interest?
        Anyone who insults emulation is a genuine idiot and insulting it as a way to try and pass as "purist" is laughable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >blah blah blah
          Emulation is for thirdies and poorgays. I still have my collection of games from when I was young, since I didn't live under an overpass in a cardboard box, so I'd be playing retro games either way. I feel sorry for those who will never know the experience of busting out their copy of Wave Race 64 that their loving parents bought them in 1997, and instead have to make do with the soulless experience of downloading a ROM file, running it in an emulator and using their Xbone controller to play it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >treating consumerist electronic toys as exalted heirlooms
            >this deluded that his way of loading a ROM has... get this... a fricking 'soul'
            homosexual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I still have my collection of games from when I was young, since I didn't live under an overpass in a cardboard box
            I'm of two minds about this. I sold off all but one of my childhood games when I was younger since I hadn't touched them in years. There's a couple of games I regret selling, namely Super Mario RPG and Super Punch Out, but most of them I don't regret selling because either I never had much interest in them to begin with or I'd beaten them and never had any plans to play them again. I think there's a case to be made for sentiment towards your specific childhood carts, like there's something really cool about pulling out a cartridge and remembering your save (I remember doing the same thing when I was testing my N64/Gamecube games to sell them), but I don't think the nostalgia factor really elevates the experience that much. Wave Race 64 is still Wave Race 64 whether you're playing it on original hardware or emulating it. The extra sentiment is just the cherry on top.
            Hell, even with my current collection, every once in a while I'll take games out and sell them because I know I'm never going to play them again. I'd rather have a curated collection than a collection of games I know I'll never touch again.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First repro I bought was Paper Mario and I wasn't exactly aware until later.
    Honestly...does it matter? my biggest concern is I've heard that repro batteries are like marginally bad for your console, but it's so little that you'd have to play like hundreds of hours at a time for it to have a perceivable effect. In my opinion, if it works just like the original, it still checks that "put physical game into physical console" box that many collectors seek.
    I mean if it really does damage your hardware to a significant degree (and I mean significant don't come at me with some bullshit and it turn out to not even be a big deal) I could see a problem, but the only other negative is worse resale value which personally isn't a problem for me rn (not rolling in cash just don't need to sell them).
    If anything I for one welcome the future of repro carts and consoles, it's just newer hardware that isn't as decayed and honestly one day it may be our only options.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Copyright law desperately needs an Orphaned Works clause so it lights a fire under the ass of IP squatters

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mega Drive games has a sticker that covers the screws. It's already awkward for me to ask the store proprietors to just take time away from the busy place to let me just see the item, but to ask them to destroy the seal implying that I don't believe they have a product worth the asking price is a large ask. Like this MegaCD game, without having a real one side-by-side for comparison, it could fool many.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped retro collecting years ago when it was starting to get expensive, and rather than collecting, it was getting back the games I owned but had to sell. For the rest, I don't mind using a flashcart, so fakes don't bother me.

    With regards to emulation, I used to always prefer the original hardware, but shaders make it a complicated choice. I could probably upgrade from emulation to an FPGA analogue duo (or find a PCE with an rgb mod), but not having a CRT, raw pixels aren't great.

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