>fans hate HGSS because it doesn't fix Johto's glaring flaws of every single Johto Pokemon being an impossible to find shitmon with no mo...

>fans hate HGSS because it doesn't fix Johto's glaring flaws of every single Johto Pokemon being an impossible to find shitmon with no moves and the only usable team being 6 KANTOOOOOOOOOmons and Johto being too small and the Pokethalon being a waste of time, and KANTOOO being barren and the Battle Frontier beign stolen from Platinum the level curve making the entire game an unplayable slog
>Masuda listens to fan's complaints and makes sure Unova has none of the things people hate about Johto by making sure Unova had a massive stand-along dex, makes every pokemon strong with amazing level up moves, makes TMs reusable, fixes the level curve, gym leaders and elite 4 have only their own region's pokemon, and removes all ties with KANTOOOO so people can't whine about it being barren.
>REEEEE Where's CHARIZARDERINO! ICE CREAM BAD!

Fricking morons, no wonder Game Freak stopped trying out of spite

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    complaints about hgss were not prevalent on the internet at the time of release

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one was really b***hing about johto's flaws when hgss released. it's only recently newer fans without nostalgia for the garbage games can look at it critically and decide that johto is indeed the worst region, with the worst species distribution, and a shit level curve

      yes they were
      you gays were too busy wienersucking each other over the following pokemon instead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Proof?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >2010
          https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/53215139
          https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/54880063
          >2012
          https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/63611569
          >2015
          https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/72255877
          >2016
          https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960100-pokemon-soulsilver-version/73498316

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2010
        https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/53215139
        https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/54880063
        >2012
        https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/63611569
        >2015
        https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/72255877
        >2016
        https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960100-pokemon-soulsilver-version/73498316

        That's moronic and wrong, kys

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >slow gen 4 engine
    why didn't they fix this?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one was really b***hing about johto's flaws when hgss released. it's only recently newer fans without nostalgia for the garbage games can look at it critically and decide that johto is indeed the worst region, with the worst species distribution, and a shit level curve

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HGSS was one of the most well received games ever when it came out, moron. Same with XY for that matter. The only people who b***h about "kanto pandering" are moronic BBND tourist zoomers who didn't start posting until 2019.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yawngay thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]

      Please have a nice day. You are 10x more annoying than your made up enemy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hi yawngay

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Janny is going to leave this thread up and ban all those who dare to speak ill of shitnova

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BW's linearity destroys the game in so many ways.

      >if HGSS had no battle frontier and drastically worse looking sprites would it be better received?

      > Being forced to use new pokemon in Unova was fricking great
      no it wasn’t

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im a big BW fan and even i can agree that the wild encounters can feel a bit linear. Probably the same issue with Kanto.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest gripe I had of BW was that a lot of pokemon were shafted to the latter half of the game that I wanted to use, so either had to wait, or just made do with something in its place that inevitably was better due to EV investment. And how the evolution curve was jacked to fricking hell on a lot of mons. Ex. golett, pawniard, tynamo, larvesta, rufflet, vullaby, deino, litwick, elgyem, klink, solosis,etc... everything being a high 30's or sometimes 40s before they evolve fricking ONCE.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BW's linearity destroys the game in so many ways.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        being linear didn't cause the evolution curve to be bad, the only other games where a pokemon evolves past the level of the final boss is the johto games which are infamously nonlinear

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't say it is the linear/nonlinear. Just the fact you can reach times where you are facing a fully evolved pokemon in the mid 30's that will stat stick every pokemon that is a late start evolver. Not saying it is the worst, but one of those head scratcher moments.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and the only usable team being 6 KANTOOOOOOOOOmons
    Misinformations squashed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      remove tyranitar, add gyarados. takes too long to level that fricker up against level 12 shitmons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > add gay-rodos
        No

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No:
        Tyranitar is great to crush Lance in HGSS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Heracross
      Hard to get,RNG galore.Requires a fricking guide to get.
      > Tyranitar
      Mt Silver,16 badges in,only Red left to fight.Nobody uses it.
      > Espeon
      Eevee.Kantoshit.
      > Crobat
      Zubat.Kantoshit.

      Congrats,you only have 2 valid mons,the ones everyone already uses.Have you even played the games,anon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a johtomon being found in johto isn't disqualified because of muh rng. it's there and that's that. the same thing can be said about any pokemon found in a specific set of grass or cave with a low spawn chance, just like heracross and its trees.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody counts Munchlax as a reasonable encounter in a Sinnoh team thougheverbeit. Don't be so biased towards Johto.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            heracross is much easier to find and get than a munchlax

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People who b***h about Heracross’s availability never played the game, anon

              Heracross in GSC is also pretty bad. For bug moves, you're stuck with Fury Attack until the postgame and its only real fighting move is Reversal at 44. You'll mostly use Normal moves on it, so you might as well use a Normal type as it'll have better coverage and STAB.

              >You'll mostly use Normal moves on it
              Heracross of the first bug type to even get a Bug move. If Heracross is shit then literally every KANTOOOOOOOOO bug type is shit as weeks Heracross at least has 125 attack
              >,so you might as well use a Normal type as it'll have better coverage and STAB.
              Fine then Replace it with Miltank I know Whitney doesn’t use one but it’s surprisingly decent

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Heracross in GSC is also pretty bad. For bug moves, you're stuck with Fury Attack until the postgame and its only real fighting move is Reversal at 44. You'll mostly use Normal moves on it, so you might as well use a Normal type as it'll have better coverage and STAB.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Heracross
        literally got it on my first try in hiss in azalea town, this game was released in 2010, I think everyone had access to the internet
        >Tyranitar
        you can get one in the safari zone in Hess after the 5th badge, also you can get it before the league if you stacked all the rare candies you found and not using it on your Whitman.
        >Espeon
        Ok then, Mamoswine maybe? or its Sinnoh's shit?
        >Crobat
        Togekiss then? or it's also Sinnoh's shit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mamoswine
          >togekiss
          Those are Sinnohshit.
          >but-
          If the standards currently set make Johto look good, they are arbitrary completely twisted to make Johto look bad. Those are the rules of Pokemon criticism now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hard to get
        I've never struggled with getting one.
        >Mt Silver
        Not in Crystal.
        >Kantoshit
        Can I use Espeon in RBY?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>Mt Silver
          >Not in Crystal.
          you might be thinking of HGSS. the only "postgame" mon moved to Johto in Crytstal was Sneasel.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean Larvitar was moved to Kanto's Game Corner, if you rush to it you still have the 8 Kanto gyms to challenge with it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >needs a guide for heracross
        Are you hallucinating about DPP?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll keep posting this until you gays get through your heads. The Johto mons' aren't hard to find.
    >n-noooooo I can't use Lanturn or Jumpluff because they aren't OU staples! They don't count!!!!!1!!1!
    Holy Mother of Skill issue, imagine not being a children's game with """shitmons""".

    >Verification not required.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *being able to beat
      I'm buzzed and sleepy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And I'll keep saying you're a disingenuous Black person, tierlistgay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't get Sneasel until Mt. Silver in HGSS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can get Misdreavus Murkrow Magcargo and Tyranitar long before the post game in HGSS, and Steelix appears in the wild in Johto.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can't get Sneasel until Mt. Silver in HGSS.

        he's disingenuously posting encounter facts for Crystal to defend HGSS

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if hgss was released with gen5 engine would it be better received?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if [one of the most beloved pokemon games] was released with gen5 engine would it be better received?
      Does it matter?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if [johtoBlack person headcanon]
        LMAO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]
          Holy kek johtoBlack folk can’t even take criticism from a neutral question LMAO

          Dilate

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >response 4 hours later after the fact
            >no rebuttal
            JohtoBlack person seething intensifies*
            KEKKKK it’s so over

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if HGSS had no battle frontier and drastically worse looking sprites would it be better received?

        >all Johto Pokémon are still worthless shitmon
        >all Johto Pokemon are still impossible to fine
        >region is still infested with KANTOOOOOOOOOOO Pokémon
        >Gym leaders still don’t use any Johto Pokemon
        >villian is still team rockets leftovers
        >Johto is still a tiny backyard with no identity or culture of its own
        >KANTOOOOOO is still barren
        >level curve is still unplayable
        >pokeathalon is still a waste of time
        >following Pokémon is still pointless
        >HMs still everywhere
        >battle frontier is still stolen from Sinnoh
        no

        Holy kek johtoBlack folk can’t even take criticism from a neutral question LMAO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if HGSS had no battle frontier and drastically worse looking sprites would it be better received?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all Johto Pokémon are still worthless shitmon
      >all Johto Pokemon are still impossible to fine
      >region is still infested with KANTOOOOOOOOOOO Pokémon
      >Gym leaders still don’t use any Johto Pokemon
      >villian is still team rockets leftovers
      >Johto is still a tiny backyard with no identity or culture of its own
      >KANTOOOOOO is still barren
      >level curve is still unplayable
      >pokeathalon is still a waste of time
      >following Pokémon is still pointless
      >HMs still everywhere
      >battle frontier is still stolen from Sinnoh
      no

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Johto is still a tiny backyard with no identity or culture of its own

        I can see the other arguments, but never got this. Johto has a lot of landmarks, cultural themes that make it very distinct from Kanto

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Name 20

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bro that’s SO disengenous no region has 20 landmarks
            Give a real number

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              5

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bellsprout Tower
                >Ruins of Alph
                >National Park
                >Bell & Burned Towers
                >Lake of Rage

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being forced to use new pokemon in Unova was fricking great. Then the sequel having old pokemon in the region again was great too. Every generation should be like this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Being forced to use new pokemon in Unova was fricking great
      no it wasn’t

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WAAAAAAAAAAAH WERE IS MY WAWIZARD WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I enjoyed it. Playing BW1 in japanese with the EXP Patch and finding/using entirely new pokemon was super fun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sinnoh sorta tried doing that by having just a couple previous gen pokemon and it caused everyone to have the same team being

      infernape staraptor luxray garchomp floatzel roserade

      platinum added a bunch of pokemon so that your team wasnt always the exact fricking same, locking you to only new pokemon is bullshit and it results in using the same team every playthrough

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The singular thing I will praise XY for is having like twenty different encounters per route

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just about every Pokemon is usable because it's a baby games for babies.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Johto is home.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was pretty moronic to lock all old pokemon behind the national dex. No one really like hard reboots. If they really wanted to do that, they should have done in like Hoenn where the majority of pokemon are new pokemon, but there's some older ones mixed in too to maintain familiarity.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >level curve making the entire game an unplayable slog
    Ive beaten lance with level 38s, dragonite is 4x weak to ice so mamoswine with nevermeltice and ice shard just murders them

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that they gave us a version of BW where you could use K*ntoshit right after was neat

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you know? You can obtain 3 Sinnohmons in HGSS without NatDex. They are Mamoswine, Yanmega and Licklicky

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only 1 heart scale

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. I forgot Rock Smash.
        Next time, go to Route 36, baka.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pickup also has a chance to get heart scales.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    flygonhg showed me the flaws of j*hto

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Release Gold and Silver
    >Expansion to Kanto
    >Everyone loves it and rave that it's better than the next installment.
    >15 years later...
    >MUH METAhomosexualRYAROOOOOOOOINOS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mentally ill troon zoomers try to do autistic challenges like speed runs in decades-old games that were never intended to be played that way
      >shocked when this creates issues that a casual player would not encounter
      >starts sperging out about how their moronic, self-imposed ruleset somehow has merit in criticizing said game
      >forcibly try to rewrite history
      They're doing the same thing to SM64 now. It's all so very tiring.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if this is from the invisible wall video, casuals definitely encountered them

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Johtosissies are so sensitive to criticism they sperg out and invent some “Yawngay” to cope with ANY criticism valid or not
    No other Gen fans do this btw

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