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because hgames are peaking
>professional eroge is almost dead
>poorly written rpgmaker indie shit dominates the market
>subhumans unironically post wegs on Ganker
>peaking
lol
In terms of volume he's 100% correct since any moronic chink, poo or slav can make a shitty VN in renpy or a shitty RPGmaker CG collector.
In terms of quality it's never been lower. For every Holy Knight Rikka or Lorena and the Land of Ruins you have 500 RPGM CG collectors and 1000 unfinished VNs.
The few remaining proper devs outside of the indie side still make games but they aren't any where near as big as they used to be.
Nta
But Dohna Dohna is new and kino
That's from AliceSoft and falls under the latter statement since they've been making games for 30 years now.
can confirm, pretty good h game, absolutely 10/10 art
sadly combat can get a bit repetitive but overall it's cool
they have the weirdest and shadiest way to buy it so I just pirated and bought some Porno mugs and keychains to support them
>you have 500 RPGM CG collectors and 1000 unfinished VNs.
ProTip; It has always been this way.
Not true, the VNs while shit used to at least be finished
Most Nip VNs are still finished. I was just saying that the "cheaply made shovelware" was always there.
Stupid people will say CERO because of Sakurai's comments about Smash Bros, disregarding that Smash Bros aims for a CERO A rating.
The real answer is because developers are scared of SNOY rejecting their games and so tone things down from the development stage to avoid drawing the ire of censors.
it's sadly a mix of many things:
-Feminists don't like it
-China doesn't like it
-Sony doesn't like it
-CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear, before a company could aim for a +12 with panties)
-And now even if a Japanese company didn't care about any of the above and just wants to sell to Japan, upskirts have become increasingly unacceptable in Japanese society because of pervs harassing actual women.
Sadly, panties are gonna be gone forever and ever soon.
*more "reports" of "pervs harassing actual women"
You pretty much have to rely on mods or gacha games at this point. Thank goodness I had a lot of funds in PSO2 to give me all the panty shot I wanted.
isn't pso2 super censored with the latest expansion?
PSO2 only remove the bath scene, which no one cares, some inners, which got place back, and the height restriction, which is still in effect, sadly. But otherwise, they released a wave of bikini from a gacha, with a bootless version of fascina diavola as part of the prize. It became one of the most highly demanded item at the time.
I hope you keep enjoying it but sadly for me it's a deal breaker to have any kind of censorship
The only one I tolerate is Genshin because the censorship is Government issued and they literally cannot do anything about it legally, I think even releasing lewd content in other countries can get them in trouble, also we can use mods to uncensor most things
No other game has this amount of customization and its two games in one. But yeah, once you finish everything, its a bit lacking. I do play other games on the side and play NGS for the daily when I get hook on that other game, though.
The bigger problem with PSO2 is that NGS sucks, it pretty much killed the game.
Yes.
is a disingenuous homosexual defending censorship by neglecting to mention things and downplaying what he does mention.
PSO2's western release had multiple cutscenes in episode 4 censored by adding clothing and the bathing scene removed entirely. The smart inner was removed from the western release and has not been added in. And of course the height restriction persists. PSO2's western release is a butchery that shows Microsoft is just as bad as Sony these days.
>-CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear, before a company could aim for a +12 with panties)
moron
>moron
says the frickwad showing the most censored and least sexualized fire emblem ever (so far)
are you actually fricking genuinely moronic? the game has NOTHING, moron
lmao this game was INSANELY censored. Beyond censored. Trannies in Cali BRAGGED about how censored it was.
>when I said lgbt I meant mostly the troons
Oh, great; as we all know, trannies are famously super willing to live and let live.
>Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features
They used to not censor anything. Don't fall victim to presentism.
>by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released
Yes, which is why 2B became globally popular. The wave hadn't hit Japan yet and she was the fan service equivalent of the last chopper out of 'nam.
>Oh, great; as we all know, trannies are famously super willing to live and let live.
they are sexual deviants so something we like has to eventually appear from all their horny but the most important part is that women's opinions are not important anymore, it will be easier to get rid of blacks and troons than getting rid of women
fair enough in the other points
>it will be easier to get rid of blacks and troons than getting rid of women
Hard disagree. Sarkeesian was was a dumb b***h; trannies are smart autistic men.
sarkeesian is gone but all the female "gamers" aren't, it's hard to go against them when their opinions are considered important, even if society shifts towards sanity again
troons will be considered sickos again if we turn the tables
The troons problem will solve itself very fast. It always does.
It's been 8 years since this whole phenomenon started, how "fast" is very fast?
One generation. Fast in the scale of humanity, slow to you and me sadly.
When they solve it for themselves. 41% is now 42% btw.
>One generation.
In one generation, the fertility rate globally will be, like, zero.
>41% is now 42%
Trannies reproduce by grooming other people's kids. 40% of Gen Alpha is LGBT now.
Honestly, I feel like the best counter to troonism is to show them the freak show that is being a troon. My friends used to be pro trannies, with me being secretly anti. So I suggested that they should watch I am Jazz as an ally and lo and behold, my friends gazed into the abyss and it gazed back. They are still empathic to troons but none of them think chopping their dicks off should be the answer anymore.
It's good, but you need broad collective action to counter the deafening media machine that's built to drown you out. None of us are that young; Alpha is totally in the clutches of these people.
Too slow. Don't count on the problem fixing itself.
Those who give a shit should start a social movement to counter the cancer, and they have to take cues from previous successful movements on how to act.
The troony movement is by nature very harmful to those who fall for it, and that can be used against it. The homosexuals who keep posting those pastas in the Bridget threads may be insufferable, but they and people like them are your best bet against troons.
>The homosexuals who keep posting those pastas in the Bridget threads may be insufferable, but they and people like them are your best bet against troons.
Just post the detrans posts. Nothing is better for "this is bad" than testimonials from people who were so onboard with the movement that they went and got all the stuff you can get done, done.
Yeah, that's what i was talking about. The voices of those who've suffered the worst that movement can offer have to be amplified and spread everywhere.
In what society does it solve itself fast?
>all the female "gamers"
Most of them are trannies now, though. If anything, they've flawlessly picked up the torch.
>sarkeesian is gone
Sarkeesian is beying paid 6 figures to lecture every dev from here to Tokyo.
>https://censorship.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem:_Three_Houses
The trannies accomplished very little..
The hot spring had them in literal potato sacks.
post 3h panties
thanks anon, very nice
I agree on all of these points, but I want to add my own theory is that lewd doujinshi and lewd images are so widespread that people became bored with standard fanservice shots. Shit like Pixiv FANBOXs, Twitter and DLSite have become increasingly popular, so having regular ecchi or some e-girl panty fanservice won't make that many people care that much except for gachas since that's what most otakus are into now.
>are so widespread that people became bored with standard fanservice shots.
Panties and feet and cute thighs and legs and armpits never get boring to ogle at.
>Stupid people will say CERO because of Sakurai's comments about Smash Bros, disregarding that Smash Bros aims for a CERO A rating.
anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
genuine question
CERO is not the main factor. It was ESG and snoy's influence. FF7R has a C rating in Japan and has no pantsu shots in it, yet a C rating would be fine for that.
>anything with a CERO B with pantsu in it lately?
Almost every Atelier game from the last 15 years. Rorona and Totori were both CERO A in their initial releases despite containing panties, their Plus releases were CERO B with the addition of extra swimsuits and other outfits. Ryza 2 and Sophie 2 were CERO C. Everything else was CERO B.
>anything that shows even a hint of something similar to panties gets an automatic 15 rating
>what about this one
>d-doesn't count
lmao 3 houses didn't show shit; show me ONE panty shot from three houses and I'll admit you were right but then spew some bullshit about how it doesn't matter
>Atelier
An excellent example; Ryza was MORE censored in a sequel that only existed because people like the FANSERVICE in Ryza 1! It's not the free market doing this!
>show me ONE panty shot from three houses and I'll admit you were right
>it literally has nothing lmfao
those are black shorts/spats like 99% of modern games with skirts you absolute fricking moron
>-CERO doesn't like it (and slaps a +15 on any game that has even a HINT to something similar to female underwear
>th-that isn't similar enough to female underwear
>ignores the Atelier examples anyway
what examples you fricking moron?
the only ryza 1 had panties and it's rated C
the older ones was before the CERO became more strict, fricking smash bros brawl had panties, want to use it as an example too you moronic homosexual?
fricking israelites I swear to god, jesus christ
You are remarkably stupid.
>the only ryza 1 had panties and it's rated C
This is wrong on all levels. Ryza 1 was rated B. Every Atelier game since Rorona has had visible panties and their ratings were already broken down here
>the older ones was before the CERO became more strict
Never happened.
>fricking smash bros brawl had panties, want to use it as an example too you moronic homosexual?
Sure. Putting aside absolutely everything else that was added to the games following Brawl that could influence the rating, Brawl had the following characters who were girls wearing skirts: Peach and Zelda. That's it. By the time Ultimate came along there were also Daisy, Palutena, and Rosalina. That's more girls wearing skirts to pose a risk to the rating, which Nintendo still wanted to keep at CERO A.
Also, here's another game with a CERO B rating that came out last year.
lmao he's posting literal PIXEL ART now! What's next, an ankle?
Do you really think the art style would make CERO rate it less strictly?
Yes! It's literally pixelated!
>censorship is when something is added and then removed
No, censorship includes when trannies fly in weekly from California and ruin everything at the source. Which they did.
This
I can't believe how many people don't know that Nintendo of America literally sends teams of woke c**ts from their Treehouse localization to Japanese first party studios to make sure they don't have to censor anything for the west.
They said so themselves after the 3DS and WiiU era had so many complaints about censorship in the west
Truly a monkey paw moment, they "stopped" western censorship by censoring directly in Japan, you can tell XB2 and BOTW still had a bit of bite in them because the first teams probably got BTFOd by the Japanese studios but NoA saw the XB2 sexualization controversies and Zelda's ass and the troon sand guy controversies and decided to tighten the leash and we got shit like FE Three Houses or XB3 lmfao
Btw if XB2 and BOTW were released 100% free they would have been even more horny
Do you think if people complain about that directly to Japanese devs, they'll do something? I really think something should be done about this.
Why would complaints do anything? The devs already don't want to do it lmao.
I've been on "SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE" for years. I've watched rafts of Japanese politicians get arrested on "save our video games" and facing down smug Sony employees who parrot "mug private company" at them. It's really hopeless at this point.
>get arrested
get ELECTED, sorry
I wouldn't say it's so far beyond possibility that CERO itself has been Westernized over the past 10 or so years. Lord knows the studios that make it up have.
There is absolutely no evidence that points to that actually being the case because CERO's rating systems are still working the same as they always did. The most notable impact CERO has had is the banning of explicit nudity in Japanese games and that's been the case ever since CERO was first introduced and hasn't changed. CERO is not responsible for the self-censorship we have seen over the last few years, Sony and western fearmongering are.
I am not, I want people to blame the correct parties. Why are you intent on trying to blame Japan instead of the westerners forcing this shit on them? You're suspicious as frick.
Dude, CERO literally started doing this shit, I don't remember if they said it themselves or if it was part of a Sakurai or other dev interviews but I know for a fact that CERO wanted to "protect them children" by only allowing visible female underwear in +15 games
Maybe a couple of games went under the radar but the fact is that this "panties = +15" thing does exist, look at DQ11 (among many others) for example, so many outfits that should just have a V shaped bottom are either shorts or have the leg skin covered by fabric
in the past no other DQ did that
same with Smash, before they could get a +12 and show some panties, and for wiiu and ultimate the CERO was literally requesting to see every single female 3D model with a skirt upside down, said by Sakurai himself
it wasn't like that before 2014/15
Japan has been making a lot of changes thanks to the west, sony and china but CERO is also part of it and CERO's concerns are not western feminism, it's good ol' "think of the children" conservative garbage
>Dude, CERO literally started doing this shit, I don't remember if they said it themselves or if it was part of a Sakurai or other dev interviews but I know for a fact that CERO wanted to "protect them children" by only allowing visible female underwear in +15 games
Again that is blatantly false, you are completely misunderstanding Sakurai complaining about having annoyances with CERO while trying to pass a CERO A game. You have been given many examples of games passing the CERO B rating while having panties and you refuse to accept them.
>look at DQ11 (among many others) for example, so many outfits that should just have a V shaped bottom are either shorts or have the leg skin covered by fabric
You're citing fricking Square Enix as a counter-example here. SE is notoriously globohomosexual focused now and self-censor their games happily and have been doing so for years to appease their ethics committee, it has absolutely nothing to do with CERO. They censored the salute in the Pixel Remaster of 6, are you going to blame CERO for that too? They censored Mojo's speech quirk in the Chrono Cross remaster, are you going to blame CERO for that too? They censored Buddhism references in the Live A Live remaster, are you going to blame CERO for that too?
Stop being a fricking moron and actually consider the context behind the examples you're presenting.
It can work for niche titles. Samurai Maiden had the gen z bullshit reverted after the overwhelming backlash they got over it. The important thing is that the backlash needs to be overwhelming; the more people just roll over and accept this kind of thing the less likely the companies are to bother doing anything about it.
>Samurai Maiden
lmao the fan service in that is censored as hell
This thing has me thinking about getting married just to have someone to hold on to, but if I'm this much of a sad sack about the world I grew up in getting sick, I have no idea what I'd do if my poor wife had something happen to her.
They did fix Samurai Maiden's translation via a patch.
Still black void when using camera
Easy enough to disable with a simple mod but still, not cool
What's the point of buying a fanservice focused all girls musou if it has its fanservice censored? not supporting that sry :/
>XB3
I hate how there is a "non-binary" character in a world where the first thing the game tells you is that people are not even aware of sexuality.
Oh boy! I love typing like a redditor!
>CERO gives any game with a hint of anything that resembles female underwear a 15 rating by default
>e-except that, that doesn't count, neither does that, neither does that, none of it counts, stop proving me wrong, please let me blame CERO instead of western influence, reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Here, have another example. Cold Steel 2 is also CERO B and the Kai re-release maintained that rating with no censorship and panties intact.
OK, cool, so it's the West's fault. Aren't we all in agreement on that?
>XB3
This is when I truly gave up hope, yeah.
ResetEra runs the entire fricking industry. How do we break that hold?
>OK, cool, so it's the West's fault. Aren't we all in agreement on that?
Sure, which is exactly why I'm not going to accept homosexuals making shit up about CERO having some bullshit policy of any panties automatically meaning a CERO C rating in order to shift the blame.
If CERO actually had gotten stricter then you wouldn't have stuff like Cold Steel 2 Kai or Atelier Sophie DX getting re-releases with the same CERO B rating without covering up the panties, but they're not having any trouble because this shit about CERO getting stricter is a fricking myth based on morons like
completely misinterpreting what Sakurai said or even more likely just going off of hearsay.
why the frick are you defending censorship you fricking stein?
Both of you calm down and stop. The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
>The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
You can't fight back if you don't even know who you're fighting against.
>The question isn't who to blame, it's how to fight back.
that's how occupy wall street died
You're both right in this case. I propose that we fight both. Though, naturally, i assume most people here are westerners; therefore it would be easier to fight on the western front.
True but how do we fight back against so many groups with so much power?
China, Sony, Feminists and general wokeness (that is rapidly infecting Japan too btw), Japan's CERO Rating Board being puritans
First, do not get into a defeatist mindset.
To fight this one has to become an activist, spend most of their day fighting. The fight against censorship has to become a movement, a hot issue in the society as a whole. You need to get the average person on your side, make them care about this, make them agree with you.
But for that to happen, we have to organize. Like, right fricking now.
This has already happened in Japan. They've elected multiple anti-censorship politicians. Those politicians are going up against the entire opposition bloc, half of the LDP, the feminist and trans lobbies, BlackRock, the UN...
I would recommend you look at AFEE (https://afee.jp) and orgs like that, but this is a seriously hard slog. It's made me wanna get married just so I don't feel so alone.
Do not fall into despair, that's what the opponent wants. A movement cannot grow if you lose steam. If you care, then we must organize, we must fight.
I would recommend everyone in this thread sign up for AFEE; (https://afee.jp) write them in English explaining that you're fed the frick up and want to help and ask for advice in how to help from the US. Send letters to Yamada Taro (https://taroyamada.jp/contact/) and ask him how you can help. (Use DeepL to translate or something.)
And send out job applications to companies like Nintendo of America. Claim to be trans or gender nonconforming! They can't disprove it, and you honestly might be.
May not help immediately, but doing something is better than doing nothing.
I want EVERY sad sack in this fricking thread to do one of these things RIGHT NOW.
Yeah I've seen that, it slightly fills me with hope but seeing more and more Japanese companies falling prey to western lies and seeing Japanese publishers and ad companies pander to twitter feminists who complain about anime cross promos being sexual or having skirts to short or whatever makes me sad again
Japan needs to find a way to stand strong by themselves without needing the western market
Or we need to convince them that the western marker doesn't actually want what their woke western branches tell them
>Or we need to convince them that the western marker doesn't actually want what their woke western branches tell them
That's what i'm thinking too, i believe that there is absolutely no way twitter crazies are even close to being the majority, and that means they can be outshouted. We have to organize.
They 100% aren't
Literally every single person I've met in real life is sick of woke garbage
They just don't care ENOUGH and keep consuming as long as the product has some action or marvel humor
It's those people you have to convince that they should fight against censorship, i believe that can be done.
Since no one seems to want to do it, i made #giveuspanties on rizon.
>Power comes from backing, not raw numbers. ResetERA dominates the industry with a user base of around 350.
Even if that is the case, doesn't hurt to try.
Power comes from backing, not raw numbers. ResetERA dominates the industry with a user base of around 350.
This is what you should all be doing. The application pages at Nintendo, Sony Interactive, Squeenix and the like are open right now. Apply, apply, apply! Claim Japanese knowledge and then grind with DuoLingo if you have to.
If you must go out, go out saying that you tried as hard as you could.
>Then out spake brave Horatius,
>The Captain of the gate:
>To every man upon this earth
>Death cometh soon or late!
>And how can man die better
>Than facing fearful odds,
>For the ashes of his fathers,
>And the temples of his Gods?
>‘Hew down the bridge, Sir Consul,
>With all the speed ye may!
>I, with two more to help me,
>Will hold the foe in play!
>In yon strait path a thousand
>May well be stopped by three.
>Now who will stand on either hand,
>And stop this foe with me?’
I sincerely doubt the likes of Nintendo, Sony, Square are hiring people with no experience.
Joining Nintendo isn't going to help at all. Their translations are handled by a small team of full time employees and dozens of contractors. If you work for Nintendo you are going to become one of those contractors with no power to influence anything and your translations are going to be taken and bastardised by the full time employees who oversee the project and dictate the style of the localised script and any changes that will be made to it.
Oh, and this guy is one of the most senior members in NoA's localisation department.
Also in case anyone missed the expose about it from a few months back there is no process in NoA for the contractors to move into full time employment there regardless of time or performance. People like Nich Maragos and Nate Bihldorff have a stranglehold over Nintendo's localisation output and are going to do their best to keep it that way.
>infecting
It's a great word. I feel like everything I love is dying of lymphoma or something. Some days they crack a smile, other days it's just pain.
This 100%
Fricking perfect analogy
Some times we get some hot girl or some panties or some based story but we both know their days are counted and everything will fall to globohomosexual sooner than later
>How do we break that hold?
Become louder than them. That's what i believe.
You shouldn't give up, never give up.
>Become louder than them.
HOW?
>never give up
Give me something to fight for.
>HOW?
Mirror their strategies. For this we need to organize.
Every hill must be a hill to die for, never once back down.
If somebody were to create an IRC channel right about now, that'd be great.
>Give me something to fight for.
I assumed you already have something. Fight against censorship, any censorship. We (people who give a crap about that) need to start attacking corporations that push their moralgay bullshit onto the dev teams, we have to become loud, so loud it's simply impossible to ignore us. We must open our mouths and never shut up until we win.
jew
also the panties thing is literally said by CERO themselves, Sakurai has a great interview talking about it
>Sakurai has a great interview talking about it
And he was talking about CERO in regards to CERO A. That has nothing to do with games that are rated CERO D(17+)
Who is talking about D rating?
That is a black fricking void.
Senran Kagura. The Must Play 101 of panty games.
>Senran Kagura
Thanks. I appreciate the rec
what do you mean doesn't count? it literally has nothing lmfao, they are more covered than muslim prostitutes lol
It's not that it automatically gets a certain rating, it's a mark that may increase the rating - especially if it's available with a freely controlled camera.
An A rating is the strictest in this sense.
Those were long before CERO added the restriction. Ryza in particular wears booty shorts instead of the more frilly dresses of the previous games. CERO even has a list of updates in their document, but I can't find archives of previous ones to see when 下着の露出 was added.
Besides, this is more about CERO thinking they have a moral authority to discourage Japanese research because these types of people believe you can't give anyone ideas to mimic in real life unless it's the correct ideas.
>If they can't look at panties in the games they play growing up, men will stop harassing women!
Forgetting every guy in Japanese society grows up going to school with girls hiking up their skirts and everyone (including the girls) is trying to get a peek.
Like anyone here could throw a punch before getting winded
>Those were long before CERO added the restriction.
Ok, so pray tell, when was this restriction added? Because those games were coming out on a regular basis for the last 15 years. And the Arland, Dusk, and Mysterious DX re-releases were all released after Ryza 1 came out with unchanged ratings.
>Ryza in particular wears booty shorts instead of the more frilly dresses of the previous games.
You fail to understand the most obvious fricking reason for this: pic related. None of the previous games had Ryza's movement or camera system. Putting her in shorts was an obvious consequence of it. Meanwhile other characters who you don't control in the field were still allowed to have skirts.
For the love of god, if you're going to keep trying to push this CERO changing narrative at least provide any kind of fricking evidence for it.
Sony's own restrictions started in 2018.
CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash or outright not include them (like Mai from KOF)
>CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash
>CERO's things are more well known because they had to cover up some characters in Smash
Catering a game to CERO A standards is NOT THE FRICKING STANDARD YOU BRAINLESS moron
Honestly it's people like you that make dealing with censorship a pain in the ass since you can be given point after point of actual censorship and proven cases and then you'll come in with BUT THIS ONE INSTANCE FROM THIS OTHER GROUP THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOUR DISCUSSING HAPPENED SO I'M RIGHT AND IT'S NOT WHO YOU CLAIM.
Just shut the frick up if you don't know what the hell is happening.
Hell you want to mention the CERO A shit so much like a brainlet then tell me what the Meruru Incident was. Any person bringing up CERO A must know what led to the tightening of CERO A's regulations otherwise you're just parroting another brain dead take to defend Sony and the gaijin homosexualry of the west.
What was the Meruru incident? A simple question you should know the answer to if you know that CERO A restrictions were tightened. What happened?
I already told you stupid, I can't find the archives to give you a date, despite CERO themselves listing every date they updated the standards, in Reiwa and Heisei too, to make things more confusing for a gaijin.
Why do you even deny this is part of it? They list visibility of panties as one of the guideline points. It lines up with all the other stupid shit being pushed by the west and concerns about sexual harassment in Japan has been a long standing issue. I don't even remember how long ago they added the women-only train cars to Tokyo rush-hour only for women to not bother using them.
And to be clear, unlike the other homosexual I don't contend this is isolated to CERO only. But for foreigners, this issue became obvious between Sakurai complaints and Sony CA or Treehouse butting in on certain designs/translations, so a lot of anons cite those incidents.
Even though Japan has a very clear line for r18, they don't really verify your age, having a CC is enough. But the US CC companies don't verify either so they can issue cards to teens.
Mastercard has been the worst about this. Visa didn't care for a while but they got on board too.
>Why do you even deny this is part of it? They list visibility of panties as one of the guideline points.
No one is arguing that they don't judge panties you stupid frick, the problem is that you're claiming they made some decision to increase their weighing of panties in assigning ratings at some point which never happened. You keep saying this thing happened yet you can't even take a guess as to when and being presented with Atelier should've shown how full of shit you are because the same games got re-released with the same ratings after Ryza came out which is when you put forward that the restrictions had already increased. If increased restrictions had been part of why Ryza was given shorts instead of a skirt this would've been impossible.
>Sakurai complaints
Once again, purely related to trying to approve a CERO A rated game, and has absolutely no bearing on games rated CERO B, which you simply cannot seem to comprehend.
>Once again
That was when ANONS got a clue to pay attention homosexual. Everyone remembers being able to look up Peach's skirt and finding bloomers instead of a black void, that's why they constantly cite it.
You will have to show research from the Atelier series before I can come to a conclusion about whatever it is you're rambling about it.
>that's why they constantly cite it
Then at least cite it when it's relevent like when it's about a game rated CERO A.
Hell the Meruru Incident is WHY this tightening of regulation even happened.
>CERO fricks up and accidentally rates Meruru CERO A
>This makes it all the way to game stores
>Parents get pissed off they bought a game with certain questionable content for their children since CERO said it was an All Ages title
>Complain to CERO who promise to never let this happen again
>CERO A ratings become even stricter because of their OWN DAMN MISTAKE
At least do your god damn research, homosexual.
>You will have to show research from the Atelier series before I can come to a conclusion about whatever it is you're rambling about it.
What fricking research? You stupid fricks keep saying any game with panties means automatic CERO C rating, this is demonstrably false by Atelier existing with panties and continuing to get B ratings despite restrictions supposedly being tightened.
It's not even that CERO A ratings became stricter. Gust didn't declare the free model rotation feature or hot springs scene to CERO when the game was rated which is why the game got the A rating. What happened in response was CERO demanding more focus on the rating of games to determine the appropriate rating, hence Smash Bros getting the "show us every model upside down" approach. It's not "panties are now rated stricter than they were before", it's "panties are rated the same as before but we want to make sure we actually catch everything".
Also for clarity this game was given a B rating after the re-rating. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2013. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2018. Weird how consistent that is, across a 7 year period of supposedly tightening restrictions.
>Also for clarity this game was given a B rating after the re-rating. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2013. And it was given a B rating again when re-released in 2018. Weird how consistent that is, across a 7 year period of supposedly tightening restrictions.
That is very strange. Almost like the limit is only for CERO A and doesn't explain the changes in CERO B - D.
>Almost like the limit is only for CERO A and doesn't explain the changes in CERO B - D.
You mean it's almost like the limit is only for CERO A and nothing was actually changed in CERO B - D as should be increasingly obvious.
If you insist. I seem to have misplaced a lot of screenshots though, I distinctly remember that if you put Totori in the maid outfit her panties are in plain view when she's sitting in the Atelier and I took a cap of that but I can't find it anymore.
A cute! Cute I say!
>You mean it's almost like the limit is only for CERO A and nothing was actually changed in CERO B - D as should be increasingly obvious
Exactly
there's a button in totori that makes her do a random emote, and one of them is tripping and falling. Makes it very easy to look.
Please post more meruru while you rant.
It's because developers, don't really want to make money! It's strange that they don't, but that's just how it is.
Why does she wear extreme short skirt?
easier to move in
Makes easier for the villain to break her mind by cutting off his own head, it's a thing that happens look it up.
it's actually pretty trendy for its time
>girls were expected to wear long skirt for modesty
>frick you old man, we do what we want
>skirt kept getting shorter by each passing year, became the "new" normal
>eventually by 2000 long skirt was getting trendy again (not in anime or related media of course, just like bloomer and old style school swimsuit)
It's partly CERO. Most devs don't really want to go for a B rating and even then they can't be sure if they won't get shit over it. C rating or don't bother. The other issue is that unfortunately devs don't want to have to change things for international versions these days. Better to just have a single one and switch a language pack. So they are getting convinced more and more to leave that sort of stuff out.
>It isn't something western gamers want to see
The international market is something that these companies chase and if they are getting told by all of their international divisions what gamers want, why shouldn't they believe them?
yeah, even if they are lies, they keep getting told that they need wokeness and feminism to sell on the west by their western branches
even though 99% of people I've talked to in real life don't like woke shit but they buy it regardless as long as it has some action and funny haha marvel humor
That's why i believe anyone and everyone who cares about video games should contact Japanese devs and tell them what western audiences actually want.
Even if you think it's useless, it wouldn't hurt to try, right?
What game?
Xenosaga
I'm sure women 100 years ago glad it was finally socially acceptable for them to show off their femininity and be sexy would be overjoyed to know that any erotic portrayal of women would be met with revilement and rampant censorship today
Its what happen when you let ugly woman take control of everything.
>I'm sure women 100 years ago glad it was finally socially acceptable for them to show off their femininity and be sexy would be overjoyed to know that any erotic portrayal of women would be met with revilement and rampant censorship today
Jews
>DA JOOS
jews
yes, the israelites
useful idiot
Hey rabbi, Watcha doin?
Yes
>ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE
left leaning men that wanted more women in the industry started to nerf sex appeal in order to show how much they care about feminism, meanwhile they are molestors or pederasts themselves so they get fired pr canceled from the industry
now it’s mostly women and ballless feminist men running the show
>left leaning men
stopped reading there
either lefties were the only ‘intellectuals’ making the games or it wasnt make up your mind groomers.
It's too hot for this soft, easily-offended and always-oppressed generation of people. Can't afford to take risks with sales if it upsets minorities who won't even consume your media
politics-Black folk are all the same
>it's bad because it's sexist
>it's bad because it's degenerate
Sony and Valve are part of the problem
The target audience has been dominated by gacha the last few years. Westernization is a symptom, not the cause.
It’s always been this way in the West. Men and boy butts/underwear in cartoons are haha funny, women and girl butts…? SEXIST
Because american platforms basically with their censorship rules and JP developers thinking of global market, only nintendo can save you from burger people
I have all those games on PS4.
Censored in some way or another
Actually, no.
Keep on spouting bullshit you read here tho
Also rent-free
You don't even need to try to see her underwear. She shows it off constantly in cutscenes. Particularly the scenes after Albedo abducts her.
ESG funding from the talmud-worshipping Laurence D. Fink. There's your reason. btw, that ends April 1st.
Then what happens?
Well, with no more ESG funding, I doubt companies will make games that they must sell at a loss just to "own teh conservtards" or whatever. So I'd expect it to heavily diminish in the new fiscal year going forward.
This is my hope
There has to be a limit and right now feminism is getting less and less talked about in favor of blacks and lgbtq and zoomers are pretty horny
These days even on twitter and reddit you get more positive than negative reactions to the few sexualized characters that manage to exist
Look at SF6, you all can call it ugly or whatever but the fact is that it has titty, thigh and butt physics and normies have been pretty into it and very vocal about it
I think it started thanks to Nier Automata
2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters (I mean look at Square whoring her to literally every game possible), obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters
>right now feminism is getting less and less talked about
Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.
>in favor of blacks
Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.
>2B showed gaming companies that a game benefits from attractive female characters
2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.
It's gonna be very, very hard to claw our way back. Zoomers HATE anything erotic. BlackRock owns the economy. We're on very unfriendly ground.
Definitely MAPs next, dicky as a meme has been carving out an insane frontier in just the past couple months, meanwhile zoophiles are still largely underground and their best shot at mainstream acceptance is through a community that already gets a bad rep
nah maps will never be accepted, it's like the absolute line
e-girlcon should be accepted if sodomy is, at least e-girlcon doesn't have to do with real people unlike troons and sodomites
>MAP's are gonna do to dickyposting what trannies did to my other hobbies
I'm gonna be posting that sob emoji for real, aren't I?
Yeah, because most Zoomers in the US are nonwhite. Liking boobs or panties as opposed to ass is a white and North Asian thing.
Remember, gaming fell first. If we do claw back (which we might, not sure) it will probably be liberated last.
Whites don't like panties either, moron. Hell, liking thongs and g-strings is another "black" fetish.
True, only Japanese were really staying pure and innocent enough to admire the soft cottony goodness of a panty shot.
Are you me? Please give me some recs
The Vita. Get a Vita.
God, I love panty shots. The freshly washed puffy goodness hiding on the other side of that thin, soft fabric. Aaaah, it's wonderful.
I had considered one at one point, but vitagen talked me out of it haha. Please recommend me something, anything. I have read a lot of VNs btw, but will take whatever I can get
>Counterpoint: because the feminists have been devoured by trannies. Someone else will be along next, MAP's maybe, or zoos.
Yes, when I said lgbt I meant mostly the troons
>Oh, boy, so now we'll have all the damage effected by feminism AND ugly blacks everywhere.
I'd rather at least some chocolate fanservicey girls than non at all and Japs usually don't give them the dreaded black features
>2B predates this crap and has survived largely entirely because Yoko Taro has stayed out of the limelight.
Nier Automata came out in 2017, this shit started in 2012 and by the time Nier Automata came out there were no western games with attractive females being released, last one was witcher 3 and it's a stretch because the only sexualization there was somewhat tight clothes
Despite what you might think Overwatch is highly sexualized. The females come with perfect hourglass figures and skin tight outfits. There is a reason why Overwatch became the most popular searched for gaming term on pornhub that year.
>obviously they are a bit scared of twitter backlash but some companies are definitely testing the waters
I dunno we’ll see, EG - within the Tomb Raider fandom the overwhelming majority want ‘Classic’ Lara Croft back (Short shorts, dual pistols, not crying all the time) - Including women who enjoy TR as a power fantasy, but it won’t fricking happen.
>Look at SF6, you all can call it ugly or whatever but the fact is that it has titty, thigh and butt physics and normies have been pretty into it and very vocal about it
SF6 looks ugly as shit and sanitised to hell though?
Where does it say it ends April 1st?
ESG funding is ending in the new fiscal year. BlackRock has lost over 2 trillion dollars in 2022 (possibly closer to 3 now, I believe). They don't have the means to keep the propaganda show up much longer nor will they be renewing their contracts for it. With the coming economic collapse in April and forward in 2023, games being "woke" will be the least of most people's concerns. Fink included.
>BlackRock has lost over 2 trillion dollars in 2022
Do you have any idea how much money has been printed in 2022 alone? 50% of Japan's hard reserves are managed by BlackRock!
This doesn't just "end". There's no magic free market snap back to reality that fixes everything. And even if there was, the devs are gone, the games are ruined, Bridget is trans, etc. The Shire has been scoured. We need to find a way to move forward.
It does in 2023. BlackRock is going to be largely useless when the value of money itself becomes a joke. They cannot keep kicking this can down the road forever. This honestly goes much deeper than The Vanguard Group or their subsidiary, BlackRock. Think 1929 levels of insanity coming to you very, very soon.
Hard to be optimistic when the solution to the end of video game fan service ends up being the end of video games themselves.
Source?
>expecting evidence from any of these schizo lunatics
lol
lmao
Good goyim, take 10 shekels for your service.
So which ones of these are true? Can you back up your claims?
I'm really hoping is right. I also don't believe the claim that gen z is full of puritans.
>I also don't believe the claim that gen z is full of puritans.
Google "puriteenism". Or, more accurately, search on Twitter or TikTok.
>google it
>get literally 7 results
Epic doomposting
Why is ESG stopping on April 1st?
Because it seem like nowadays most men has some sort of mental illness and everyone seems to be cut his testicles and be raised him as a girl
Jews.
Call me /misc/ or whatever, but it's because of ESG and American cultural imperialism and those are both effected by israeli Americans who see them as ways to effect Tikkun Olam. Would it be someone else without israelites? Sure, maybe. But it isn't now.
>being a coomer is bad
>coomerbait is good tho
>"yEs."
Panty shots are a dying fetish
Zoomers are so sexually maladjusted that you're probably right.
I wouldn't say maladjusted, they just have different tastes. Seeing a tight ass in jeans or yoga pants would be more attractive to them, for example. Panty shots in general were only ever really popular in japan anyways,
We weren't allowed to have them in the West. I can think of very few cartoons where a girl's panties were ever shown, and it was usually only once per entire series.
It's painful.
What are some games with a free cam mod so I can enjoy upskirts?
Blackrock is just zoomer George Soros
>Using twitter too much
>hearing voices constantly, have also developed gout in both my penis and eyeballs
>january 2023 and trump still hasn't been reinstated despite Qanon saying trust the plan
>listening to voices and have purchased a gun
panties are just censored pussies, why not look at porn online?
if i wanted to look at porn i'd just google your mom's name
Xenogear > XenoSaga >>> Xenoblade
Politicians using your taxes for stupid things like censoring a game, keep the money running for them and keeps us busy not asking why food is more expensive
Literally everyone's whining about how expensive food is
Anya pantsu
This game only released a couple years ago and there is panty shots in it too.
couple MONTHS ago*
Sept 2022 to be exact.
A major plot point in that game is evil white supremacists bullying immigrants, and there's side quests where you stick up for gay people. Also the characters go on "frick racism" rants.
It has fanservice, yes, but it's still a very woke game
Post said pantyshots while the normalgays ITT are busy burning themselves out
The camera doesn't let you just upskirt, you have to work for your look at panties
Usually just sprinting is enough though.
This is the best I can do from a screenshot.
I know some cutscenes and battle animations flash panties sometimes too though
It's more of a breasts game really, but the panties are there
Here's something from Kuro no Kiseki 1 (2021 game so it's recent)
Some of the best titty fanservice ever and it's a new game
Shame about the gameplay
Evil American/israelite Overlords are threatening to cut off crucial international banking services to other countries unless they stop being pervy. It's all a ploy to scapegoat attention away from the fact that the people making these demands are actual pedophils of real Children, though. People have been using that deflection tactic for thousands of years. They used to think being a member of the senate or church made you exempt from suspician and accusation too.
This anon is correct.
This I do not know. I feel like maybe we just have to hold as much of the old world as we can and forge ahead into a totally new future.
It's so unfair that this happens right as I enter adulthood, though. Like I showed up at a great party that's ending.
Triple A games will never have panties again
Indies are the future
Specially Japanese indies
I remember when it was indie games and Japanese games.
Then it was Japanese games.
Now it's Japanese Indies.
Some people do beat cancer. We have no idea what the future holds.
We just have to never, ever, ever give up. Hoard old games and either claw back or at the very least go out unrepentant. No matter what happens, never lose the smile until you've either won or are dead.
Yeah but there is literally no way for these people to stop indies unless the government makes titillating entertainment illegal lmfao
...
Well they ARE trying with the payment processors banning people from buying sexual content but we'll always find an alternative
Panty shots in old games gave me a panty fetish
Physical violence is the only answer. You need to start harming every employee at Japanese companies' Western branches
This just ends in you shooting up the ground floor of a shared office building which is home to something like Bob's big box shipping
Nobody said anything about mass violence.
for me the biggest censorship issue right now is credit card companies trying to shut actual porn down. I can't even buy imaginary docks for my boat .jpgs now because visa and mastercard tried to muscle in on dmm.
Is that actually the case? If so, how is that even legal?
>We don't agree with the content you're selling, we're not going to let you use our privately owned money transfer system.
The state of Louisiana just required a digital verification as well for age gates.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23537226/louisiana-pornhub-age-verification-law-government-id
Yes. A recent notable incident is that Pixiv is now banning all e-girl content from Booth and Fanbox because of Mastercard. And that's extra shit because all the people on Fanbox are going to move to Fantia with its cancerous back issue payment system.
>A recent notable incident is that Pixiv is now banning all e-girl content from Booth and Fanbox because of Mastercard
They either clarified or backed off. Only 3D/realistic content is banned
No, that's for Pixiv itself. Booth and Fanbox are separate.
Untrue, the rules were for BOOTH and Fanbox from the beginning because Pixiv doesn't have paid content, only Fanbox and BOOTH do. And I still see and follow artists that publish e-girl and nothing has changed
Every e-girl artist I follow still uploads to fanbox no problem you dumb dipshit
Legality means nothing when you control everything.
All the Japanese devs, who mostly had fanservice in their games supported Sony, and after Sony moved their operations to California, we started to see massive "censorship" and some games stopped being released or even downgraded on all platforms because they didn't want to take the time to only censor one platform
If you look at it this way, it's mainly Sony's fault
>Why are panty shots becoming a rare art in video games?
because its making women obsolete and hindering birthrates across the globe, which is bad for the human species (or good, since we're 8 billion and growing)
Is that real? What the frick that looks better than the pantsu in Kingdom Hearts.
Though I am guessing that was censored in the localized version cuz I dont remember panties in Xenosaga.
https://www.caltrops.com/review0012.php
Xenosaga. Early PS2 era just before CERO established even.