FF16

Really didn't see anything appealing in that even slightly. Can't believe that trailer was so long and showed so little, though. Never in my life did I think I'd be so bored during an FF trailer that I'd actually need to start skipping through it.

And we still don't even know what the fuck the gameplay of this game is. That's very very telling. They seem to think anyone cares about this supposed story or these knockoff characters, but they have to be the driest that have ever come out of Japan, honestly. I can't be the only one that thinks this voice acting is pretty terrible too, can I? You have bored British voice actors lifelessly uttering lines from the sheet while their minds drift off somewhere else. It's like they are trying to mimic FFXII, but have absolutely no clue how to do it or how to write at all.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to see everything before the game releases!!!!
    marketingfags are subhumans

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nooooooo let the devs lie to me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >noooooo i want to be spoiled
        100000% guarantee this is the argument between the two that is viewed as retarded. You lost, Barry.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its final fantasy the gameplay either is selecting attacks from a menu or holding circle to watch the game play itself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or in the case of FF13, select attack over and over, and the game chooses the most optimal attack patterns for you, literally no reason to think at all.

      Man, what a disgrace this series has become after 12.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Man, what a disgrace this series has become after 12.
        and even then it had been sliding since 8

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          9 is better than 8, cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My dude people in the 90s knew that 8 was better than 9
            So you are a little late to realize that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the game chooses the most optimal attack patterns for you, literally no reason to think at all.
        Yeah maybe in the first chapter, try keeping that up for the whole game.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's dmc with stats, are you that braindead that you haven't recognized patterns and figured it out by now?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yoshida cultists' mental gymnastics on why this game isn't day one bargain bin material is very entertaining. It was apparent two years ago that FF16 is a failure when they revealed it to be a playable Dragon Age with GRRM politics.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Never in my life did I think I'd be so bored during an FF trailer that I'd actually need to start skipping through it.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just stop criticizing it, okay? It took Yoshi-P a lot of elbow grease to research and come up with a list of games to rip off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bet he's crying again on the stage.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >only 450k views
    lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forspoken won

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nice blogpost gay, but nobody cares
    go back

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fantasy world
    >sane practical weapon/armor designs unlike the over-the-top shit in XIII/XIV
    >DMC combat
    >areas shown thus far (besides one city) don't have that blatant themepark look to their designs
    Really the only complaint I'd have with what I see is why it looks like a last-gen game, but we haven't seen what the scale of the environments/combat encounters look like, and whether the game is targeting 60fps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DMC sandbags
      Is this supposed to be a selling point?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Compared to FF12-15 combat? Yes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          All they had to do was build upon 7R

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's what Rebirth is doing. Do you want all the games to play the same?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              cringe
              7-9 had pretty much the same ATB but with a different flavour and people loved it
              My main gripe is that 16 is not a partybased game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fans of 7, 8 and 9 would ardently disagree with your assessment of them. 7fags would talk about the materia, 8fags would talk about drawing magic, and 9fags would talk about learning skills from their gear. And each other fag would complain about the same thing those fags praised. Well, join the turn-based fags, the command-based fags, the gacha fags and the MMO fags, because 16 ain't any of that shit. Kitase will have more FF7R nipslop for you in next winter, so suck it up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >My main gripe is that 16 is not a partybased game
                Last time we had a solo FF, it gave us the best combat mode the series had to that point.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Disgusting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This game's combat already looks more intricate than 7R's.
            >dedicated jump button, meaning launchers and aerials
            >air dashing
            >equippable summons that give sets of skills to compliment your core moveset and can be cycled between in real time

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Retard confused flashiness with complexity.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >7R combat
                >complex in any way

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >MMO cooldowns
                >complex

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Within the context of this particular game, cooldowns actually make sense.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ">MMO Cooldowns
                >Complex"
                Post your logs, Barry.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine defending this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The colour pallate and dim lightning are the biggest offenders, it's brown and bloom UE3 all over again
      Considering the hack behind the Last Remnant is in charge

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, it's overcast weather. Unless you're one of those 'gamers' who needs a ReShade profile for every game to crank the saturation levels.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's overcast weather.
        Cope more, gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >compares painting to a render
          This board really is filled with dumbasses who knows jackshit about videogames. No wonder "GTAVI looks like shit" was trending.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >OMG game developers literally couldn't match the vibrancy of cocept art with in-game graphics
            The Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Gee no shit retard. It's like they're using vastly different lighting and shaders or something. Jesus fuck. If they were really trying to make it look like the painting, the entire game has to look different. It's not because they can't its because they chose this meme realism bullshit. For example, look at KH4's trailer. A game with two tonally different designs. One with the realism bullshit in "Quadratum" and the more cartoony Goofy and Donald.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Personally, I find a "puke green" way worse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Panton 448 C
      >the ugliest color
      >it’s just the median brown skin color

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The colour pallate and dim lightning are the biggest offenders, it's brown and bloom UE3 all over again
      Considering the hack behind the Last Remnant is in charge

      >noooooooooooooo why doesn't it resemble a brightly colored pastel cartoon that's limited to one board by GR15
      I'm glad nobody in the industry gives a shit what retards here have to say about anything.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just can't play FF game without playing as a customizable scarcely clothed Miqo'te girl.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF is dead since XII. I dunno who wants to play FF games besides people who played some FF games in their youth.
    Young people (12-18) aren't interested in Final Fantasy at all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Young people are poor and plat f2p shit anyway, so scalping boomers is the only strategy here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Young people weren't interested in Final Fantasy before 7 came along.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >wanting to hear dilation
        Seems like the series was always pro-chud.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dude cutscenes lmao!
    how are people impressed by any of this? HOW?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The gameplay is a fucking awesome, look at the combo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that was just a canned scripted attack

        Compared to FF12-15 combat? Yes.

        All they had to do was build upon 7R

        7r is shit
        15 is good
        any complaint you have against 15 applies to dmc5 too

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >have against 15 applies to dmc5
          dmc5 doesn't have party members who were cut from being playable and then added back in the game without adjusting them, so they're overpowered and throw off the main game's balance.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            vergil was added playable post launch so yes it does

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >vergil
              is not a party member.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                he literally functions as a player character which is dmcs equivalent of a party

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he literally functions as a player character
                *doesn't show up until the final hour of the game and isn't in a party.
                don't lie about the game barry.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's literally playable in previous dmc and wasnt playable in 5 at launch
                and they made you pay to play as him
                that's far worse than xv devs added character switch for free for the whole game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he's literally playable in previous dmc
                as an after launch bonus both times but never a party member.
                >that's far worse than xv devs added character switch for free for the whole game
                no, because the xv characters were advertised as playable from the start before that was cut so they could shill dlc. then they added them back in the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no as a thing you had in previous dmc you now have to buy even after already having dmc5
                playable character is the extent of gameplay dmc as what a party is in ff
                ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members in a ff being playable
                ergo its literally the same fucking thing
                it is irrelevant that dmc doesn't have a party, that not even the point you retard.
                the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them and forced to pay extra long after launch to play as them again
                while in 15 literally nobody played versus so nobody has any right to complain about them not being playable at launch when nobody had experienced them before so you didn't get anything taken from you, and they still added character switch for free to play as the whole party
                the gameplay they have in xv isnt even what they were like in that barebones 30 seconds of footage we see them as in that versus trailer
                and again they were all made playable in base game FOR FREE not to shill any dlc
                their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories in new locations against new bosses and not anything ever even planned to be in the game when they were making base game
                they made all that dlc after the fact and only started planning it when xv was wrapping up in the last few months of dev

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no as a thing you had in previous dmc
                that was only included in a special edition both times, neither at launch
                >ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members
                Not really.
                >that not even the point you retard.
                You'd have to make one in the first place
                >the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them
                In special editions, not at launch. dmc3, dmc4 and dmc5 all added him in the special edition. So its not breaking expecations.
                XV though advertised them and then took them away.
                >again they were all made playable in base game
                after all their dlc had come out.
                >their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories
                gaping holes in the middle of the story so dlc could fill them in later.
                >wrapping up in the last few months of dev
                they were started talking about dlc a year before the game launched.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >15 is good
          lmao, slow overanimated garbage cant be compared to dmc kino

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            combat speed in it is the same as in dmc5 if not faster through all warp actions

            overanimated? have you seen neros dlow ass run when he's holding his weapon behind him? that's slow overanimating

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game or a Japanese game altogether for that matter. Disappointment across the board. Square Enix is run by creatively bankrupt hacks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, you would've preferred 16 to be more orthodox and inline with previous Final Fantasy games and that would make them less creatively bankrupt?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >every female character in 7R is some cringy variation of Vanille

        i fucking hate 13 so much bros

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are the same since OG 7, written by the same old boomers, but you didn't notice because pixels.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Vanille is one the best FF girls.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like flat girls but damn vanille has some sexy legs.
        Still the FF with worst story besides XV and XIV.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus Christ I forgot how shit the summon designs in XIII were.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game
      You could say the same for the PS1 & PS2 FF entries. Only thing that ties FFs together is just general themes, and even then some don't abide by them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any game with summons will inevitably be compared to final fantasy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >summons
      >chocobos
      >Cid

      It's a FF game. That's literally the only requirement for a game to be an FF game: the title and recurring elements.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game
      What would you say the heart and soul of an ff game that 16 is missing? The only thing that links them all is chocobos,moogles and dudes named Cid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >game with big ass monsters, crystals and riding birds
      If it weren't FF I would assume it was trying to be FF

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it. Honestly, I like everything I've seen of XVI so far, don't know why some of you have a hateboner for it.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the game reminds me a lot of asuras wrath, but with a budget. just mostly a qte movie not really a videogame

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      QTE movies with a budget are kino.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >shamelessly putting that in just to showcase their hot shit CGI without a cutscene
        Unironically one of my favorite parts of the game. It was skeezy, but it had soul.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t think I’ve ever cared less about a new FF game. It looks boring, and XIV trannies have ruined any excitement I would’ve had for this game by constantly shilling it everywhere.

    To be completely honest, I’m more interested in Forspoken.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      also I’m aware that this reads like a Barry post, but it’s true. Hopefully it comes out and is good, but right now It’s not interesting to me at all.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To each their own. For me XVI is hitting all the right notes, I'm very interested in it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This post is brought to you by Melaninous Productions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This at least that has something unique going on with the magic parkour and exclusively mage focussed combat

      16 just looks like nero combat but worse

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It looks really ugly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this. It's full with modern effects and has a soulless look. Like an upgrade FFXIV.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it looks like a scrapped ff14 online idea

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hate how bad FF has come

    Not saying go back to Round based but fuck this DMC style gameplay doesnt suit the game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck do you mean doesn't suit the game? You can't mean it doesn't suit the franchise because it's gone through 9 different battle systems at this point for mainline. 12 if you count spinoffs
      Turn Based, ATB, CTB, CTB, RTB, ADB, CSB, SATB, AXB
      And for spinoffs
      Unamed ATB adjacent for WoFF
      Whatever that bullshit was in crisis core
      TPS for Dirge
      RTS for Revenant Wings
      SRPG for Tactics Advance

      Basically what the fuck are you on about?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How are you this mad?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Come on, bruh.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Think mainline FF anon

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, mainline final fantasy had nothing similar between them to the exception of 3 and 5 besides the existence of a job system
              This isn't exactly dragon quest where we've moved two decades and the format has barely budged an inch.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The people want 3-5 bros in a row. All that stuff you’re spouting is just irrelevant details.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They clearly don't, since five bros in a row FF don't sell for shit anymore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what wouldnt fit the game would be slow ass turn based game

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought FFXV was fun. Yes it was easy but I can't recall ever being challenged by an FF game

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there is more hype about Persona 5 Steam port than a new FF
    pathetic

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yoshida trailers get progressively more robust and detailed the closer you get to release.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I excited for 16 but only because we have had a lack of above average fantasy rpgs over the last 5 years
    Only ff I ever liked was crystal chronicles though so I'm not invested in the franchise

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have to question all those people clamoring about "generic medieval fantasy game" when
      >The Witcher 3 was 7 years ago
      >Dragon Age: Inquisition was 8 years ago
      >Skyrim has been re-released and re-released for 11 years now

      Fromsoftware are the only ones on the market and they have their own niche covered.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's a very underserved market, it was a dominant sector of video games for a very long time. And of course dnd is still huge in tabletop but kind of just disappeared from video games until recently

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The reason why this game is fucking failing is because they refuse to show off the world in the last 2 trailers as i feel an interesting world is what gains interest

    All we have seen is either a bland battlefield where a war takes place or inside castle/village walls. I complained about this issue when the second trailer came out and a bunch of Yoshi P dicksuckers jumped down my throat. Nobody even knew if it was open world or not until they had to announce it cause they showed so little

    And when they showed interesting locations it was THROUGH FUCKING SCREENSHOTS. Yoshi P shouldnt of produced this game. The hype has never even existed in the slightest and we are apparently 9 months from release. I cant believe Yoshi P killed final fantasy when he shouldve revived it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The game is like a year away when the 2nd trailer was released you donut. If they release gameplay trailers now, what are they going to show for the rest of the bloody year. Especially next year's E3/Summer Games Fest.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If they release gameplay trailers now
        7remake had a showcase at the e3 before it launched (almost a year before) to show off its gameplay and then did another at TGS (6 months before)
        That isn't an excuse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck sakes you really are a dumb piece of shit. VIIR's release date is BEFORE the E3 of the year it is released. Of course its going to use the E3 of the previous year to showcase its gameplay and have a big information blowout. XVI is obviously going to be AFTER E3 of next year. Gee weeez, I wonder why aren't they showing off gameplay just yet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >release date is BEFORE the E3 of the year it is released
            By this logic, XVI should have been shown off at TGS. Unless you think the game is going to be delayed.
            >I wonder why aren't they showing off gameplay just yet.
            They aren't confident in what they're showing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fuck sakes. Compare the numbers of viewership of TGS to fucking E3 you dumb fuck.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but viewership
                7remake showed off at TGS. Other games have as well. This isn't an excuse.
                >fucking E3
                You mean the event that was dead for the past 3 years? Think about your posts for a second.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Showed what? One fucking boss fight? That's literally it. They're just repeating whatever information they've shown at E3 of that year.
                >You mean the event that was dead for the past 3 years? Think about your posts for a second.
                So? Did it died because viewership plummeted? It died because of circumstances that are out of their control. And they can't have an online only event because that would conflict with Keighley's Summer Games Fest. But fuck it, make whatever shit up inside your dumb, retarded head. Done talking to a twat that convinces himself in his own made up delusion.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >One fucking boss fight? That's literally it.
                Because they already had a full gameplay demonstration at the E3. There was nothing stopping SE from doing the same for XVI at TGS.
                >make whatever shit up inside your dumb, retarded head
                You worked yourself up by making up excuses for XVI and couldn't think of anything good. Despite games before it showing off gameplay well before they ever came out.
                You are allowed to criticize games you are looking forward to playing you know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You are allowed to criticize games you are looking forward to playing you know.
                Piss off. Don't try to make as if you're martyr or doing the gaming community a service. You're not criticizing the game. You're criticizing the fucking marketing behind it. Those two fucking thing doesn't correlate at all.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're not criticizing the game.
                I would like the game more if the game actually showed me anything. Which is why I'm weary about the actual state of the game. Not showing it off is never a good sign.
                >You're criticizing the fucking marketing behind it.
                And you're whiteknighting it for some reason. SE isn't paying you to act like a child.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Y-YOU'RE A S-SHILL!!
                Pretty rich coming from a retard that cares about marketing and "HYPE". But is still too retarded that he can't grasp the basic concept of marketing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But is still too retarded that he can't grasp the basic concept of marketing
                not him but the game barely has any marketing in the first place. Its nonexistent and nobody cares about this game. A retarded anon could do a better job. Nobody wants this game so i feel like the marketers failed

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody wants this game
                *You* don't want this game. A handful of very vocal shitposters on this board don't want this game.
                It will sell millions just for being a mainline FF alone, the online clamoring of the vocal part of a disparate and fractured franchise fanbase is absolutely meaningless compared to the silent approval of the masses.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >silent approval of the masses.
                How'd that work out for XIV 1.0

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Different situation is that was a sub-based MMO with extremely high system reqs at the time.
                FF XV was an unfinished dev hell trainwreck and it sold millions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Different situation
                You said the silent approval of the masses will carry it. They won't just bend over every time FF releases a game.
                >and it sold millions.
                Didn't stop tabata from getting fired and its dlc getting canned.
                Reputation will get you so far.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Didn't stop tabata from getting fired
                Tabata wasn't fired, he left with severance pay and took a good chunk of his team to make a new studio.
                The guy was their janitor when it came to throwing out releases, because Nomura sure wasn't consistently releasing big projects outside of kingdom hearts in a timely manner.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tabata wasn't fired,
                yes he was.
                >took a good chunk
                lol no he didn't. He took between 5-10 people. Most of the workers at his 1 room studio are new employees.
                >because Nomura sure wasn't consistently releasing big projects
                The only one he didn't release was versus.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and it sold millions
                Does anyone actually believe this crap? I remain unconvinced knowing that they count every Gamepass download as sale.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they don't count gamepass as a single sale and xv had already sold over 9m before it was even added to gamepass over 3 years after it released,
                ff7r was added to ps+1 less than a year after it released and was still at 5m

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                FFXV is finished
                it was versus that was dev hell
                ff16 has been in dev longer than ffxv too and according to yoshiP back in 2020 they were still planning to release it on ps4 but then cancelled the ps4 version

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXV is finished
                The game is incomprehensible without background and setup provided in tie-ins. Locations hyped up for years like Tenebrae aren't even in the game except as a train station.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are a fucking brainlet
                literally nothing outside the game is required to understand anything in the story
                everything to do with the actual story in the game is first introduced in the game and resolves in the game

                tenebrae was shown once for like 5 seconds like a few months before release and you still do more there than 90% of what you do in midgar which is just jpg backgrounds and hallways not an actual city

                you can't even explain how kingsglaive is required to understand anything
                so regis dies? ok? we know he dies because the game lets us know, there's nothing else to know about that
                ravus lost his arm? ok we know because townsfolk, news reports and the party all talk about ravus being in the city and losing his arm getting it replaced with a magitek one, nothing outside the game is required for that

                niflheim stole the crystal? you literally learn that in the game
                luna has the ring of the lucii? literally her first present time cutscene in the game shows her showing it to gentiana and nodding, the fucking movie doesn't even mention she is the oracle which is what her actual role in the story is which the game mentions, the party mentions, every fucking chapter and scenes shown of her doing oracle duties and townsfolk talking about her Oracle duties

                it has the single most straightforward story in the franchise how are you actually this fucking stupid?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OK Barry.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                mald

                >newspaper reveals in one piece
                Those chapters usually also show glimpses of what happened or later chapters go back and reveal what happened.
                >kurapika
                I don't read hiatusxhiatus.

                bounty reveals dont show shit
                koby being mentioned kidnapped literally occured offscreen in a chapter koby was in and ending with the newspaper saying he's kidnapped

                sabo killing cobra was mentioned in the newspaper by people reading the paper only and never shown what actually happened
                everything in xv gets revealed and anything relevant to main story is shown

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OK Barry, you can stop now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can stop coping now

                >DUDE FFXV IS THE FASTEST SELLING, BEST SELLING GAYME IN BIDYA HISTORY!

                it is

                Final Fantasy has long lost its panache. FF15 was their last chance and they blew it.

                it was hugely successful
                14 is killing ff and 16 just looks bland
                none of the characters even look like what every other FF has as characters
                if you said the ff16 cast were from triangle strategy or octopath or bravely default id believe you because the designs are so non distinct and muted and boring

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >14 is killing ff and 16 just looks bland
                OK Barry.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it was hugely successful
                FF15 was generally considered a 7-8/10 and even people who played all of it came away hating it for the ending. It was a success from a sales perspective, but that was off of hype. FF16 is not hyped because FF15 failed to live up to its own.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The XV ending is the one thing pretty much everybody can agree was stellar and one of the strongest in the series. Say what you will about the rest, but it really stuck the landing.

                This is why ff12 is the most beloved and remembered of the franchise huh

                Ironically XII does have a good example of strong character writing complementing the setting and worldbuilding: Vayne and co. Archadia has an excellent story of how the setting shapes people and relationships and vice versa. Problem is, 90% of this story is confined into the Ultimania and we follow some ignorant paper-thin chucklefucks instead.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ironically XII does have a good example of strong character writing complementing the setting and worldbuilding: Vayne and co. Archadia has an excellent story of how the setting shapes people and relationships and vice versa. Problem is, 90% of this story is confined into the Ultimania and we follow some ignorant paper-thin chucklefucks instead.
                Yeah
                This is why I think execution is the most important
                While ff12 has a great world and characters with potential, it isn't unusual to hear someone saying "man, I couldn't connect with 12, I just didn't give a shit about the story or characters"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                XV has higher average fan reception than any FF and more awards than any FF and better sales from launch to now than any FF did in a comparable timespan

                FF15 literally keeps fucking selling you mong, its the best selling FF on steam now too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >FFXV takes 8 years to make during a time when development costs are exponential
                >can't even out sale FFVII on Steam, a game made in 2 years

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No ffxv under tabata only took 3-4 years

                ff7 on steam is literally $6-$12 and took 5 years to hit 1m on steam
                ffxv on steam was $50 and only occasionally $25 during steam sales when it launched on steam and it sold 1m in 1 year on steam and is now 1.5m-2m on steam
                og ff7 is the only ff with comparable sales to xv on steam but it sold far slower and far cheaper than xv is on steam
                all the other ffs are below 1m on steam
                and 14 counts free trial accounts as its players on steam so literal fake numbers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >everything in xv gets revealed and anything relevant to main story is shown

                then explain the true ending novel?
                You use novel only content to defend XV and yet you decry the Novel as "alt timeline none canon" whenever someone brings up the fact it exists

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >true ending
                >what if fan fiction

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                true ending is in the base game you fucking retard twewysperg

                being non canon doesn't mean its still not official you fucktard, official content like in dbz games where goku fuses with freeza or teams up with cell or whatever the fuck, it's not canon but it's still OFFICIAL
                learn the difference already you stupid fucking xiv moron holy fucking shit how are you this fucking stupid?

                it was being made the same reason the alternate ending in episode ignis is a thing you fucking retard, to show different outcomes if different things that weren't beholden to the canon happened, it literally wasn't part of the actual story and the true ending is the story in the base game which they literally fucking said when they announced it you fucking retard.

                ?t=1482
                >The theme is an ALTERNATE grand finale, of course we're not trying to overwrite the existing ending, the ending for FFXV is THE ending for FFXV, but like we did with Episode Ignis we want to give players a choice to see a possible different outcome.

                Meanwhile ff7r has its canon true backstory in a novel and its true ending hasn't even fucking released yet while requiring you to buy a ps5 and play mobile garbage canon to ff7r to understand the actual unfinished garbage that 7R always will be.

                Stay debunked retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wow cool empty nothing grassland ff16!

                YoshiP actually said he likes FFXV and that fans supported FFXV too but that some also say without the DLC it's too thin.

                Stop falling for mistranslations, he never said anything against FFXV as an opinion or anything about it altering the franchise

                >4Gamer:
                >Certainly, there have been young people that did not have an FF game released during their Junior High and High School years. (Referring to the longer release windows between games)

                >Yoshida:
                >If we can't get these people to think "FF is awesome!" we won't be able to spend on the development costs of FF in the future. Looking just at Japan, it's frustrating but true, that Monster Hunter sticks out more than FF. It can't be helped, since the games weren't released during their adolescences.
                >The impressions that FFXIV and FFXV made on people is also history that cannot be simply wiped clean. For example, even though FFXIV has been successfully rebuilt, it still went down in flames as a firestorm in online gaming history. Also, while I see it as a good game that was challenging, and there are many people who like FFXV and continue to support it, many point out that FFXV feels out of it's depth when it's just the base game without DLC. If you're in charge of a new entry, you have to accept these as fact.

                And in a seperate interview he said people say 10 or 11 or 12 are the worst or anything after 9 is bad so according to you yoship is asking 10 and 11 and 12 damaged the brand

                Are you fucking retarded?

                [...]
                he literally said it hasn't been smooth only a month ago

                XV has higher average fan reception than any FF and more awards than any FF and better sales from launch to now than any FF did in a comparable timespan

                FF15 literally keeps fucking selling you mong, its the best selling FF on steam now too

                You're fucking retarded
                this 4 second gif alone has more personality than all 3 ff16 trailers and info dumps and character bios they've shown

                no as a thing you had in previous dmc you now have to buy even after already having dmc5
                playable character is the extent of gameplay dmc as what a party is in ff
                ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members in a ff being playable
                ergo its literally the same fucking thing
                it is irrelevant that dmc doesn't have a party, that not even the point you retard.
                the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them and forced to pay extra long after launch to play as them again
                while in 15 literally nobody played versus so nobody has any right to complain about them not being playable at launch when nobody had experienced them before so you didn't get anything taken from you, and they still added character switch for free to play as the whole party
                the gameplay they have in xv isnt even what they were like in that barebones 30 seconds of footage we see them as in that versus trailer
                and again they were all made playable in base game FOR FREE not to shill any dlc
                their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories in new locations against new bosses and not anything ever even planned to be in the game when they were making base game
                they made all that dlc after the fact and only started planning it when xv was wrapping up in the last few months of dev

                sic 'em barry

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                suck me timmy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tell not show
                might as well listen to the audio book of FFXV

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I bet you seeth over newspaper reveals in one piece or kurapika only telling the gang he's on revenge against the Phantom troupe and never showing why
                even in manga chapter that did is a special one off chapter thar is considered outside of hunter x hunter regular chapters itself and the anime shows 0 of it too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >newspaper reveals in one piece
                Those chapters usually also show glimpses of what happened or later chapters go back and reveal what happened.
                >kurapika
                I don't read hiatusxhiatus.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you explain this using shojo manga? I'm sorry anon I was never into shonens.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good to see you awake, Barry.
                Now do us all a favor and go to sleep forever.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not at all a similar circumstance. The fuck

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do the silent masses also not need to watch the latest trailer, because they are already sold on the game and have their PS5s at the ready for Yoshida's (no doubt) masterpiece?
                Are these silent masses in the room with us right now?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                New trailer already has over a million views after one day, what are you on about?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, you don't get it. The game is not spammed on Ganker and no one's talking about which teenage anime girl they want to masturbate to. This means the game has 0 hype!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >million views after one day,
                *added up across multiple youtube channels
                ftfy. The highest actual view count on one channel isn't even at half a million.
                For reference, the ign video for resident evil 4's gameplay is at 1 million.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >THE HYPE DOESN'T EXISTS GUYS!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >twitter video with not even a million views yet
                was this supposed to prove what I said wrong

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I-IT DOESN'T COUNT

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >million views after one day!
                >added up across multiple channels
                >posts a video that itself doesn't have a million views

                >I-IT'S JUST B-BOTS!

                >posts a second one that isn't even at half a million.
                You literally just keep proving me right.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >DUDE 700K IS GOOD JUST TRUST
                >…IGNORE THOSE OTHER GAMING TRAILERS THAT ARE GETTING MILLIONS
                this is just sad at this point

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Same bots that inflate XIV player count.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I-IT'S JUST B-BOTS!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                now show the retweets

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                HAHAHAHAHAHA WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO DISPROVE ANYTHING?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I'm sure trending on twitter twice doesn't count init.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I-IT'S JUST B-BOTS!

                >Chainsawman OP
                >8.9 million views on a JP account alone
                https://twitter.com/CHAINSAWMAN_PR/status/1579856860651233281

                Wasn't Final Fantasy AAA franchise?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >comparing anime to a videogame
                NOW I know you're actually, genuinely retarded.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no it doesn't lol

                >THE HYPE DOESN'T EXISTS GUYS!

                twitter counts scrolling over a vid for 1 second and any autoplay when scrolling by it as a view

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ur acting like i want this game to fail but i dont
                >disparate and fractured franchise fanbase
                So you admit the fanbase is in such a shit position that it will potentially fuck up the sales?
                >silent approval of the masses
                And that “silent approval” is much smaller than you think. It barely exists. FFXVI has received the most average reaction to the trailers ive ever seen for a brand new game in a once massively beloved franchise. It gets memoryholed the day after the trailer releases and i never hear about the game again outside of the talk about the event that the game came from. When people talk about future game releases, not one time do i hear this game

                You clearly are a newfag to this franchise who jumped into this franchise only for the MMO because you forget the massive hype FF versus 13/FFXV got for many years. This game doesnt even come close to 5% of its hype. Final Fantasy was once one of the biggest gaming franchises alive and you treat this nonexistant hype like it exists when even indie games get more. Even FF7R sold pretty poorly for a Final Fantasy game and that game had DECADES of fucking hype. Why do you think this game will not be the worst selling mainline FF? Enjoy your “silent approval” headcanon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been playing FF since IV on a modded PAL Super Nintendo so it could play NTSC cartridges.

                You seem to have absolutely no notion that it's 2022 and how fractured and bubbled internet communities are now compared to 20, 10, even 5 years ago. How gaming demographic has changed. It's completely normal FF isn't the big thing it was in the late 90's. Back then it was a big fish in a little pond.
                It's normal long-term hypes are no longer a thing because dev hells like Versus XIII/XV proved it's a bad idea to announce and market games too early in advance, not to mention the recent Covid impact.

                But still, even in 2022, one thing hasn't changed, in fact it has gotten even more pronounced: for every "hobbyist" gamer who watches every trailer the moment they release, who discusses them on forums and imageboards, there are two dozen who ignore marketing and just buy because of brand name or cool box art and probably never even finish the game. Yet they'll still buy the next one.

                Depressing, I know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's normal long-term hypes are no longer a thing
                I disagree. Games like Zelda can absolutely dominate that hype even more after 30+ years. You forget that the hype for FFXV wasnt that long ago and happened during this more modern gaming age. The franchise is dead and at this point i wouldnt be surprised if Xenoblade 3 and Persona 6s sales will surpass this

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You forget that the hype for FFXV wasnt that long

                FF XV launched 6 years ago grandpa.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ffxv was announced in 2007.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ffxv sold better at launch and has sold better since than any ff sold at last or in their first 6 years

                Ffxv was announced in 2007.

                no ffxv was announced in 2013
                versus was announced in 2006 and that game was cancelled in 2012

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that cares about marketing
                I care that the game isn't showing me anything to be excited about. XVI is not some super special project that needs to hide away its gameplay from its audience. Its just a videogame, get over it.
                >grasp the basic concept of marketing.
                I don't think you know what you're even talking about

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're literally complaining about trailer content not spoiling the entire game. Trailers that have specicially been 1/ an early announcement trailer, 2/ a trailer focusing on eikons, 3/ a trailer focusing on the setting and story.
      While we're still 8-10 months away from release.

      Meanwhile GoW Ragnarok is 3 weeks away and they've barely shown any gameplay.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a terrible argument cause GoW Ragnarok and BOTW 2 already had hype before because their previous games already gained that hype for the sequels

        Final Fantasy games also used to gain hype for years because of all the cool and interesting stuff theyd show. Now that FF no longer gets hype, you have to fucking earn it again by showing FUCKING SOMETHING ANYTHING INTERESTING. This shit about MUH SPOILERS is the dumbest shit fucking ever and i know ur 100% a yoshi p FFXIV freak that defends his every move. The series needs to have life pumped back into it and this is not it

        Enjoy your spoiler free trailers you shithead but when this series goes under, hey at least you didnt get spoiled huh?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again, game is 8-10 months away. They still need to get Forspoken, their new IP, out the door first 4 months from now.

          What's the point of starting an early hype train for a game that isn't out for nearly a year and exclusive to a system that has a production shortage?
          FF VII Remake didn't start showing off its guts until half a year from release.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are you a fucking marketer or something? Why do you care so much about "hype"? Because it drives sales? Even then, why? Why do you care if a game sells or not.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because this series is nearly dead and i dont want it to become an MMO franchise. I want this series to have a comeback and make good singleplayer games again

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Because this series is nearly dead

              FF XVI is still capable of coasting to millions of sales off the name alone, even with it launching only on PS5.
              If it turns out shit, XVII might not be able to do the same, 3 bad mainline games are too much for the series to handle. But Final Fantasy as a brand name is in the same ballpark as World of Warcraft, and it took multiple expansions of a downward spiral before the dam broke.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >FF XVI is still capable of coasting to millions of sales off the name alone, even with it launching only on PS5.
                Lay off the copium, grandpa. No one cares about FF in 2022 and PS5's top seller Demon's Souls only has 1.4 million copies sold.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder if XVII will be a mmo.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Doubtful. They have planned out support for XIV for another 10 years and its at its peak now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think ff18 is the most probable one to be a mmo if you think how long games take nowadays
                FF17 is probably already on pre production

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So? Why should I give a shit? It's not my fault if the series died because they made retarded decisions and game designs. IF one day FF and SE ended up becoming Blizz, then so be it. Other companies and series will take its place.

              >But is still too retarded that he can't grasp the basic concept of marketing
              not him but the game barely has any marketing in the first place. Its nonexistent and nobody cares about this game. A retarded anon could do a better job. Nobody wants this game so i feel like the marketers failed

              Yeah no shit. It's like a year away or something. Jesus.

              >that cares about marketing
              I care that the game isn't showing me anything to be excited about. XVI is not some super special project that needs to hide away its gameplay from its audience. Its just a videogame, get over it.
              >grasp the basic concept of marketing.
              I don't think you know what you're even talking about

              >I care that the game isn't showing me anything to be excited about.
              So? What's your point? You're not excited, then its your fucking problem. Don't like it, don't buy it.
              >I don't think you know what you're even talking about
              Ah yes, because a retard that suggests an information blowout at fucking TGS knows what he's talking about, is it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're not excited, then its your fucking problem
                >hmm, should the devs show off their game more?
                >no, people who want more should just happily buy the game without question
                what the fuck
                >information blowout at fucking TGS
                Yes, as SE and other companies have done multiple times in the past.
                Do you have any idea of what you're talking about?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no, people who want more should just happily buy the game without question
                Where did I say this or even imply this at all. I even say "Don't like it don't buy it". But anyways, please, keep making shit up. That's how morons like you convinces yourself you have an argument.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Where did I say this or even imply this at all.
                >You're not excited, then its your fucking problem.
                You're blaming me for SE for not showing off their own game.
                >That's how morons like you convinces yourself
                You thought TGS wouldn't be a good place to show off the game despite SE doing it multiple times in the past for previous games.
                You have no argument. You have nothing. Nothing but your own blind faith in the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're blaming me for SE for not showing off their own game.
                Because you personally don't like what was shown off.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because you personally don't like
                I don't like that I barely know how gameplay is actually going to function.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's gonna be 10 more months to figure it out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't like that I barely know how gameplay is actually going to function.
                >Its Ok when FF7R does it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Its Ok when FF7R does it.

                >If they release gameplay trailers now
                7remake had a showcase at the e3 before it launched (almost a year before) to show off its gameplay and then did another at TGS (6 months before)
                That isn't an excuse.

                >One fucking boss fight? That's literally it.
                Because they already had a full gameplay demonstration at the E3. There was nothing stopping SE from doing the same for XVI at TGS.
                >make whatever shit up inside your dumb, retarded head
                You worked yourself up by making up excuses for XVI and couldn't think of anything good. Despite games before it showing off gameplay well before they ever came out.
                You are allowed to criticize games you are looking forward to playing you know.

                7r had shown off its gameplay by now and it separate presentations for it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              FFXV is literally the best selling game in the franchise when comparing release timespans.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://vocaroo.com/14ZtF14GOi6D

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BING BING WAHOOOOOOO
    FINAL FANTASY BAD
    ZELDA TEAR OF THE ASS GOOD

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF16 is the least ambitious ff in history

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good. At this point I'll happily take safe, formulaic yet competently executed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it isn't competent though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      square enix's current "ambitions" are NFTs and black women protagonists, focusing on good gameplay, kino FFT level political intrigue and good performance are not ambitious, but they are a much better direction.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >boring drab political shit like a generic medieval soap opera and full of phoned in performances somehow good
        >good gameplay some bad

        also at least frey has a personality

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ff16
    some politics politics
    humans transforming to summons
    everything grey and brown
    ps5 exclusive, no one even want to buy ps5

    i never was so un-excited about ff game. ff in 2000 was ok, in 2010 was ok, psp games was ok, vita games was ok, ff14 is ok. ff16 is. i dunno. every ff14 update looks better and more interesting than this

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he melty

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you lost barry, yoship has won, this game is already a ludonarrative masterpiece, dmc + matsunu kino on the horizon boys, the dogshit that was XV is but a mere forgotten shadow

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barry won, he's literally in the game, the ff16 combat director follows barry on twitter too.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    , I feel Masayoshi Soken is very much at the top of his game with his composition skills (his work on the Shadowbringers OST has blown me away, and his utter devotion to music just astound me, he composes game music because he loves to do it, not because it's 'his job' - I mean, for instance he composed the battle theme for the Seat of Sacrifice trial battle from his hospital bed while battling cancer! - he's thankfully now in remission), but game music design requires a certain skillset seperate from conventional composing - instrumentation is usually just sampled at most or completely synthetic, but modern sound processing technology makes modern game music still vastly superior to the beeps and squeeks of the old 8bit chiptune days.
    FFXIV has one of the best soundtracks in the FF series. Music is one of my favourite parts of the FF series (I admit I actually spend more time just listening to FF OSTs than I do actually playing the games!), and FFXIV is right up there with the best Nobuo Uematsu and his contemporaries have done. Of course I'm not a fan of every track, but all in all the quality of the music is exemplary. But that is just my personal opinon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Soken is overrated by 14 trannies. he does make good tracks don't get me wrong but he's no Uematsu or Shimomura

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based and true
      the music in the trailer sounds amazing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      soken makes bad buttrock or the same generic "angelic" chant riff every time and his production is amateur hour
      only when Suzuki arranges a soken composed track does ff14 music even become passable

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    seriously don't understand the mass delusion about this game being "boring"
    coupled with the weirdest complaints I've ever seen, this doesn't feel natural at all

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Meet Barry and his copycats.
      It's impossible to have organic discussion about anything FF on this board for the past 5 years or so.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Barry died along with FFXV
        what a pathetic existence

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some people expected a FF game but all they got was a Japanese version of Witcher 1.
      Witcher 3 actually have colors

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        are these... "people" in the room with us right now?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I automatically assume it's Barry or some ameripoo who immediately arches their fatass back at anything made in Japan.

      Complete trash """"people"""".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF Thread
      >Barry made it or piledrives it

      Its like clockwork

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The game is literally 8+ months away you sperg ass tards. Maybe even 10.
    I don't get why mfs on Ganker want to see every single thing before release. I want to be surprised.
    We've seen gameplay, story, characters, environments. We know what the game is going to be like. All I'm really hoping for is some direct feed gameplay of the game being played and I don't need it 10 months from release.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yoshi-P managed to lose to a gaijin SH2 remake, wow. What did he do to make Japan give zero fucks about the game?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >38k
      Atelier tier

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >game is good because... de em cee, cookie cutter grimdark medieval world, wordswordswords and politeeks to make myself feel smug about the plot fed to me in unmissable exposition dumps

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These trailers are uninspired and colorless in my opinion. Unlike previous titles, this game lacks spectacle and, dare I say, it lacks fantasy. It lacks the dreamlike vibe we often associate with the series.

    It's not about wanting to get spoilers from trailers, it's about presentation.
    So far, all we know is that there will be politics and a DMC tier combat system.

    Previous FF titles would tease a romance, the interesting locations, the relations between possible party members... but this game doesn't even have party members. Are they fucking out of their minds? I don't think you can have a mainline FF game without a party at all. That's absurd

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this game lacks spectacle and, dare I say, it lacks fantasy
      another dumb frog poster

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I guess Western Europe from 6 centuries ago has enough of that fantasy vibe to satisfy SEA monkeys and amerimutts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not spectacle and fantasy unless I like the setting
          kek pathetic sort
          show me what spectacle means to you and why the last trailer has none of it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ramuh picking up noctis and smiting shit is more spectacle than anything 16 showed
            even garuda picking up clive doesn't have the spectacle and sheer awe of sewing ramuh in xv

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't play XV but I can fuck Garuda in XVI.

              >7 starts off with nothing but politics
              7 was an anime movie with a political reasoning behind the action.
              Not politics first as the seller.

              >muh politics bad
              7 is literally anti-capitalism and pro-environmentalism.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >anti-capitalism and pro-environmentalism
                While FF16 is anti-genericevilempire and pro-beastmanrights, I guess? Wait, isn't that basically every isekai plot?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                FFXVI is probably anti-religion (Crystal must be destroyed), but we should wait until the game comes out to know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure waloed and dhalmek are full of beastmen

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >7 is literally
                an anime movie with an opening that has political motivations, then progresses into a story about life, death and mental illness.
                It is not a story about politics.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anime movie can be about politics too and FFVII is literally about environmentalism.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anime movie can be about politics too
                but VII is not focused around it.
                >FFVII is literally about environmentalism.
                Only if you never played past the fall of the plate.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the literal villains are a corporation who harvest the planet's life planet, then a genocidal alien who wants to destroy the Earth to restore nature
                OK bro.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the literal villains
                for only the first section of the game like I said.
                >then a genocidal alien
                You mean sephiroth who wants to become a god.

                >the planet literally wakes up and tries to kill Shinra itself
                >ending is about the planet recovering moreso than people surviving
                You NEVER played FFVII

                >tries to kill Shinra itself
                You mean sephiroth after he used the black materia and the weapons went on a rampage, going after whoever was in their way.
                >You NEVER played FFVII
                ironic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is the goal of Sephiroth?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Merge with the planet and become a god.
                You did play FF7 right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To do what?

                What is his goal after becoming a god?
                What is his motive behind wanting to become a god?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >needs to be told about a game he was just arguing about
                Why did you even enter this discussion? Play the game, because its clear you haven't.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know his goal is to restore the environment/the planet, you fucking lying piece of shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, not that anon. Excuse me. What? That's not his goal at all. Motherfucker, he wants to ram a fucking meteor and open a fucking "wound" to suck up all the lifestream and him at the "center". He's not at all interested in restoring the planet. This is why Jenovafags like me, debate to this day who the fucks controlling Seph. Why does he share the same ambition as this alien that wants to suck up the planet's lifeforce and leave.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe I remember wrong, but before him freeing Jenova, that was his goal seeing how he's mad at Shinra for destroying the planet and imprisoning his mother (whom he thought was cetra).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he's mad at Shinra for destroying the planet
                Huh, I genuinely never heard about this. He was angry at Shinra because they hid her from him. He always had a complex where he feels he is superior to others. Because he kept winning wars and killing people all by himself (before CC cucked this). Once he knew Shinra was hiding her mother, who he thought was the super special, ancient, Cetra, that superiority complex of his got worse.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the planet literally wakes up and tries to kill Shinra itself
                >ending is about the planet recovering moreso than people surviving
                You NEVER played FFVII

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sephiroth gets brushed aside and no one cares Cloud defeated him
                >meanwhile everyone cheers when Midgar is destroyed and nature flourishes around it again
                gee I wonder what the message was there

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >meanwhile everyone cheers when Midgar is destroyed
                The actual ending was ambiguous as to if anyone even survived holy/meteor event. Why do you make things up?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh ambiguity
                the impact only affects Midgar
                you can see Cosmo Canyon is fine and even Kalm has people looking out the windows and being fine
                the main party is completely safe on the airship far away from any danger

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the impact only affects Midgar
                But holy was said to wipe out all threats to the planet. Its theorised in game that humans could be one.
                >you can see Cosmo Canyon is fine and even Kalm has people looking out the windows and being fine
                From the meteor, not holy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                sounds like a really environmentalist message to me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually barry fucks garuda in xvi

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                barnabas? are we calling him barry now?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's his new shitpost protocol, forcefully trying to make a meme of himself being barnabas.
                He's just desperate for more ammo.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yeah man lemme just go fond something that take five minutes to kill so I can proc the RNG Summon spawn chance an-
              Oh wait, guess I'm getting Shiva instead.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the first time you summoned ramuh in xv is literally a story sequence in chapter 5 where the fight at the niflheim base will only end by summoning ramuh which will 100% show up for everyone
                anytime after that you can proc summons which actual feel like fucking gods coming to aid you
                and not this ff16 explosion laser everywhere so nothing is impressive

                also the first time you summon anything in xv itself was in the demo where again ramuh will 100% be summoned when you return to fight deadeye after obtaining him

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ff16 explosion laser everywhere
                sure sounds like spectacle and fantasy friend :^)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no because it has the inverse effect of where everything is trying to be bombastic that nothing stands out or has any impact

                all that summon shit in 16 feels samey and not special that we're seeing it
                in xv seeing a summon feels like an event
                you're out beating up crabs doing daily life shit then god shows up and obliterates them
                that has impact because of the juxtaposition and contrast

                in ff16 seeing summons is the norm and all just blends together so nothing feels impactful when seeing them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                gee sounds like the game just has too many spectacles and fantasy for you
                maybe you need something more bland like FFXV

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no it sounds like they're TRYING to give it spectacle but failing
                xv has actual spectacle and color and charm and fun is allowed
                16 is just drab and boring and nothing feels impactful

                fucking even just hearing Bahamut speak in xv has more gravitas and is more imposing than the piss weak wyvern Bahamut in 16

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >16 is just drab and boring and nothing feels impactful
                how can it be impactful if the game is not even out yet

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >western Europe
          I'm seeing water city and sand city.

          This is more diverse than that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its because Yoshi piss thinks le politics is what the audience wants when people want to escape in a fantasy like world. He doesnt understand the magic that games like 7,9 or 10 had and it shows. Even FFXV captured that magic, it was just sadly a shit game but had that slight magic the older games had

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I want politics in my game.
        I want different factions.
        I want different viewpoints.

        There's a reason everyone gravitate towards Tactics Ogre and FFT when it comes to big brain shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >when it comes to big brain shit.
          *pretentious shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope bitch.

            XV action trash
            VIIR action trash
            XV action trash

            Yeah, I'm skipping this one as well.

            Bye bye.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >too stupid to understand simple power dynamics and political structure
            >REEEEE THIS IS TOO PRETENTIOUS!! HOW DARE THEY MAKE THE CHURCH BAD! (They literally didn't)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >simple power dynamics and political structure
              Hence why I said it's pretentious shit. Thanks for agreeing with what I said.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The fuck? How is that pretentious? If you want pretentious, look no further than Persona 5.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >big brain shit
          >look, there is a country that fights with swords
          >look, there is a country that rides horses
          >look, there is a country that drinks ale
          >look, there is a country that is more dehydrated than the others

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And this is bad, because?

            How dare each country has its strength and weakness, am I right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >posts smug anime e-bois
            >is braindead
            every time

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Genshin has better worldbuilding than FF16, seethe, cry, dilate.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it literally doesn't.
                Try harder.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh you're a girl playing that feminine game
                at least we know to ignore your woman takes from now on

                Massive squarecuck cope detected.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please explain Genshit world building without being cringe.

                Actually barry fucks garuda in xvi

                Oh shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh you're a girl playing that feminine game
                at least we know to ignore your woman takes from now on

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >7 starts off with nothing but politics until muh Sephiroth steals the show
        >purposefully avoids mentioning 8 because it revolves entirely around politics
        >9 is literally politics between 3 kingdoms
        >10 has politics and religion as its main focus
        why can't you people at least be genuine lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >7 starts off with nothing but politics
          7 was an anime movie with a political reasoning behind the action.
          Not politics first as the seller.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No shit those games have politics retard. Every part of our life is technically political, but its the fact that FFXVI decided to mainly focus on politics between kingdoms as the main selling point
          >7 has politics
          Not as the main focus and midgar was a small fraction of the game too. Muh pollution and greed for a small part of the game is different than FFXVI advertising itself as some deep GoT shit
          >didnt mention 8
          cause its shit
          >9 had conflicts with other kingdoms
          yeah and it wasnt the main selling point of 9 and was only half of the game
          >10
          was an adventure isekai game and again the politics werent the main focus over the fantasy parts

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >arbitrarily decides what is and isn't the main focus
            the main selling point of XVI is the Eikons and not politics then
            get fucked retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yoshitpiss wants the game of thrones audience

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Barry…

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally the best looking game that is in development right now.

    Why does OP suck so much cocks?

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    XV action trash
    VIIR action trash
    XV action trash

    Yeah, I'm skipping this one as well.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Take that, Yoshit-piss!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      *XIV

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice bait, Barry.

    Don't you have a Forespoken thread you need to shill in?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you have to pretend DMC5 requires more buttons than that?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        don't need to

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes you do

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Neither of those control styles look fun. The first is boring and meaningless. The second is awkward, annoying, clumsy, and uncomfortable.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >sandbagging an enemy who never hits back im dmc with sickdark pointless combos takes longer to beat the enemy than regular ass basic attacks in xv where the enemy literally hits him and knockd noct down between hits with a full 5 man party against a week mob grunt

          wow so xv has more gameplay as you've proven

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do sand morons not have a crystal? Sad!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beautiful.

      This is gonna be the best game series post-IX and revitalize the series.

      EVERY GOOD FINAL FANTASY HAVE DIFFERENT KINGDOMS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their crystal is a literal mountain.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zodiark Trance

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FFXIV discord raiders are behind the FFXVI dicksucking
      jesus fuck

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        As if FFXIVFags play anything other than XIV.
        And if they do, they were FF fans before XIV was even released, because those are the players that catch on to every reference made to past FF titles in XIV.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >60 IPs
    What a mega popular game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, why's no ones spamming which anime girl they want to fuck.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gardua.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >popularity
      >good

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ff14 trannies spamming muh sales LE GOOD

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's true when I use it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >DUDE FFXV IS THE FASTEST SELLING, BEST SELLING GAYME IN BIDYA HISTORY!

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does anything yoshi p related bring in the ffxiv discord raiders?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i dont use discord i use teamspeak

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are these "discord raiders" in the room with us right now?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      because they're the only ones that shill him or anything he's involved in

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we still dont know what the game play is like
    We got several short cuts of the gameplay you can already tell what it's going to be like. Go rewatch it and pause and look at the UI.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy has long lost its panache. FF15 was their last chance and they blew it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      FFXVI is bringing it back.
      I'm having FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FF Tactics and Tactics Ogre flashbacks.

      We are back.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >FFIV, FFV, FFVI,
        Sorry those games were fun. No fun is allowed in XVI.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How is XVI no fun allowed?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine defending this

            No color. Characters have no personality. No party members, only clive (who we have barely seen fight. Sounds like no fun, looks like no fun.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Every characters scream with personality tho.
              And there's plenty of colors around, the fuck are you saying?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Every characters scream with personality
                Describe Jill without saying her role in the story.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shown off in first and yesterday's trailer
                >doesn't even know who it is
                Thanks for proving my point.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >robotically monologuing in british is a lot of personality
                lamo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, not enough "onii-chan" or "senpai" or "Adachi-kun" to you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Describe Clive's personality without saying what his role in the story is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Angry and disillusioned.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's a revengeful dude who wants to set the world right?

                >clive is...angry and uh
                ok. Now would you say he's even close to being as memorable as Jack was based on his trailers?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Clive is Jack without the cringe.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Clive is Jack if Jack didn't show any personality
                And I'm not even being a hater, what Clive even said of relevance in 3 trailers?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jack literally doesn't have ANY personality lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He is angry and cringe funny
                I can't even say Clive is that angry
                He just feels jaded, you know
                I know his backstory but not how he is supposed to act like

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is why they need to make Clive compelling

                They are using the same sad backstory of Jon Snow from GOT but in GOT you have a whole story going on through Jon's eyes so you understand him

                If they just give him the backstory of sad bastard child but don't develop him enough he will fall flat really quick

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not even a bastard. The only reason he isn't the heir is that Joshua awakened to Phoenix instead of him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't played SoP have you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I will kill you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's a revengeful dude who wants to set the world right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Describe Noctis' personality without mentioning he's a crown prince

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                "God, I wish I was fishing right now."

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                unironically why must every JRPG protagonist be a fishing savant?
                every single game has a side plot about fishing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                XV noctis acts childish and is friend to all creatures. Former plays into his rushed character arc but it is there.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Clinically depressed and has almost no self worth but acts fairly cheerful, loyal, deathly serious, loves animals and all living things, enjoys some bits of fun when he can get it, desperate to meet everybody's expectations while also having no idea how he can do that all at the same time, very unhealthy self-perception in general, loves peace and quiet but never gets it.
                Noctis is actually one of the most layered and nuanced protags FF has had so far.

                >he's mad at Shinra for destroying the planet
                Huh, I genuinely never heard about this. He was angry at Shinra because they hid her from him. He always had a complex where he feels he is superior to others. Because he kept winning wars and killing people all by himself (before CC cucked this). Once he knew Shinra was hiding her mother, who he thought was the super special, ancient, Cetra, that superiority complex of his got worse.

                Sephiroth never gave a shit about the planet's health or Shinra's atrocities. Not in OG, not in CC, not in the Ultimanias. It was always all about him and muh mother. He does rant about humans being lazy and shit before his literal dive into full insanity, but it's only in the context of them supposedly "stealing" his and Jenova's birthright.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for supporting my explanation. I genuinely never heard about Seph caring about the planet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He is the most nothing ever
                Like a generic mmorpg protag but the problem is how this time he should be a character

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like, if you enjoy that then good for you
                I don't mind

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OK bro, thank you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Every characters scream with personality
                Describe Jill without saying her role in the story.

                So what you're saying is you want animu characters who visually correspond to rote character archetypes so you can immediately tell their "personality" at a glance instead of getting to know them and having their development defy expectations?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >whatabout
                It was Russian propaganda bot tier.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So what you're saying is you want animu characters
                No. I said describe their personalities.
                >so you can immediately tell their "personality" at a glance
                I said describe their personalities because anon said
                >Every characters scream with personality
                We had 3 trailers so far. It shouldn't be this hard for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >loyal, he kept being Joshua's shield and "brother" despite knowing his actual place in the hierarchy (he obviously knows he's not the actual prince, thus bowing to the family's caretaker)
                >if he knows Jill is a dominant, then he's actually pretty smart and brave because he joined a band of mercenaries that specializes themselves as dominant hunters that is part of the soldiers that attacked rossaria
                >vengeful, he trod this path because he felt he was wronged and his "family" and country destroyed
                And this is just from a few lines of dialogue and basic description. Just because you accustomed yourself to watching anime characters over-exaggerate themselves to show their personality, doesn't mean other stoic characters don't have one.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ??
                Dude you just inferred all this from his backstory that is really generic(I don't have a problem with it)
                But saying that not showing a single interaction of your character with npcs is great because you are not "over-exaggerating", really?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's how people, sane people identifies someone's personality you dumbass. No sane person would describe themselves openly in a regular dialogue, like "umm, i'm totally a hardworking person" unless they're going for an interview or exaggerates their physicality to show off their personality or status. Only gays and social media addicted twats does that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So true
                This is why link and persona guy is are the deepest characters ever, they don't need to talk to express themselves
                Peak writing huh

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're not even right about the first part.

                Not even a bastard. The only reason he isn't the heir is that Joshua awakened to Phoenix instead of him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you're too autistic to understand social cues. He obviously bowed because he knew he's not on the same footing as Joshua. Just because he's not a bastard, doesn't mean he's not an outsider. He could possibly be another son the archduke "adopted" to have a literal weapon of mass destruction in his arsenal. Remember, he was "suppose" to be the one who has the power. Why is there even a "guarantee" in the first place.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he kept being Joshua's shield and "brother" despite knowing his actual place in the hierarchy (he obviously knows he's not the actual prince, thus bowing to the family's caretaker)
                >without describing his role in the story
                You couldn't even get past one word without breaking the rule.
                >if he knows
                So conjecture
                >vengeful
                So angry man, see

                [...]
                >clive is...angry and uh
                ok. Now would you say he's even close to being as memorable as Jack was based on his trailers?

                >Just because you accustomed yourself to watching anime characters over-exaggerate themselves to show their personality,
                see

                >So what you're saying is you want animu characters
                No. I said describe their personalities.
                >so you can immediately tell their "personality" at a glance
                I said describe their personalities because anon said
                >Every characters scream with personality
                We had 3 trailers so far. It shouldn't be this hard for you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Conjecture
                That's literally how people identifies someone else's personality you bloody idiot. Jesus fucking christ you autistic, social rejected gays. When's the last time you fuckers have a conversation with a normal human being? Do you retards actually introduce yourself to someone who you wants to know like you would an interview?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That's literally how people identifies someone else's personality
                Based on things that happened.
                You (or the person you're defending) are guessing about something that hasn't been confirmed.
                That's conjecture. Don't use words you don't understand.
                >When's the last time you fuckers have a conversation with a normal human being? Do you retards actually introduce yourself to someone who you wants to know like you would an interview?
                look in the mirror and ask yourself this.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kino

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I WANT GARUDA ON THE BED RIGHT NOW

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >angry lesbians and girly dudes
      Are they trying to make Naughty Dog bait?

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    More than half of the posts in this topic is either Barry or the equally retarded schizo shill who keeps shouting Barry at the people complaining about the game.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The game looks good but the fact we are on the third trailer and we didn't see any hint of a personality on Clive is dangerous
    It was all politics and war
    Not a single interaction between characters
    Will it become ff12 that everyone praises the world but all characters are just forgotten?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think that's fine. The game itself should speak for Clive, instead of trailers spoiling it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree
        It is just because that pattern isn't new for that team
        Focusing too much on the bigger world perspective can make them fuck up the small and mundane interactions that are what actually makes a game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree
        It is just because that pattern isn't new for that team
        Focusing too much on the bigger world perspective can make them fuck up the small and mundane interactions that are what actually makes a game

        It's copying a twitter trannoid post.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ???

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This quote is twitter trannoid:

            The game looks good but the fact we are on the third trailer and we didn't see any hint of a personality on Clive is dangerous
            It was all politics and war
            Not a single interaction between characters
            Will it become ff12 that everyone praises the world but all characters are just forgotten?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It is not, are you insane
              This take isn't even strange

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have found the exact quote on twitter screencap put on Ganker.

                But OK Barry.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You should stop being terminally online and thinking every person is the same or that opinions can't be similar, dude
                But if you want to think I'm some strawman, go on

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Soon you will realize that this mediocre project is Yoshi-P stroking his dick to create a pretentious interactive motion picture.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just find it funny that SE made a little boy in a dress one of the main characters

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For the first 3 hours maybe until you get a cliche CASTLE IS UNDER ATTACK which the first trailer had already spoilered.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's more to me just how things have now changed to having a little boy in a dress is okay while having a girl in a dress is not allowed in this clown world.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sorry, not enough "onii-chan" or "senpai" or "Adachi-kun" to you?

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure the story and world will be nice, but that combat just turns me off completely.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry they will release FFXVI cloud version in 2024 for the switch.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't get over that this fucker is called Clive. Imagine the next dissidia that will never happen

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV and XVI are what happens if you gave M Night Shaymalan a directing/producing role in video games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like giving YoshiP or Matsuno free rein.

      But OK, Barry, keep malding now that Matsuno-games are coming back with Triangle Strategy and TO Reborn.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Matsuno
        The most overrated bugman ever.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy fucking schizophrenic thread
    I missed this after the quiet past few weeks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The game seems good
      People are just talking about problems they have at the moment
      Just because there isn't a universal praise going on you start getting mad, chill

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are the one getting mad when people call out your shitposting tho.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          "No, you"
          Sure, whatever you want to believe

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FFXIV
    >FFXVI
    >Triangle Strategy
    >Octopath 2
    >TO Reborn
    YoshiP, Matsuno and Asano are saving SE.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are you morons acting as if the game is about to release in 1 month
    they still have until summer 2023 for marketing
    these 3 trailers are great already, highlight the graphics, boss fights, classic medieval fantasy setting (much more welcome over the stupid soulless empty grasslands and gas stations of XV), and giving you an idea of the action combat
    reminder yoshi p rightfully shits on XV, acknowledges its faults and knows he has to do right by fans to not make the same mistakes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why are you morons acting as if the game is about to release in 1 month
      When yoshi-p comes out and says
      https://screenrant.com/ff16-producer-wont-show-game-until-release-close/
      but then walks that back, its not the best sign.
      >highlight the graphics
      you mean the graphics that got criticized for being cheap?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but then walks that back, its not the best sign.
        how is this alarming at any rate you disingenuous gay
        production has gone smoothly they've reported they're focusing on bugs and just testing now
        what kind of fucking red flag are you picking up that nobody else is huh?
        who is criticizing XVI graphics?
        how does it look cheap?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >production has gone smoothly
          8 years of development and having to switch engines is not smoothly.
          >who is criticizing XVI graphics?
          Now you're just being willfully ignorant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            when will you naysayers stop being morons and do a little reading beforehand
            you are not just a clown you are the entire circus

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >do a little reading beforehand
              that's cool but I wasn't referring to that.
              Its going to be 8 years in development by the time its finished and has already switched engines.
              The only difference between this and XV is that xv was properly announced earlier.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes we can't wait to hear all about the development hell behind the scenes when we figure out they remade the entire game from scratch in the middle of production and wasted resources for a decade like they did for XV

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they already cancelled the ps4 version of ff16

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's actually a good thing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because yoshi killed his mom and raped his dog. I mean it's understandable to dislike him to a certain degree but somehow Barry just takes it to another fucking level like he's a fucking Heinrich Schliemann or something.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry this is for

                barry, why do you hate ffxvi so much? it's not even out yet

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do understand that there's a marked difference between a game being in pre-procution and one being in production?
                Both are "in development" but that way you can literally have just 4-6 people planned to be lead devs having weekly meetups for 3-4 years before the actual team gets assembled and count that as "being in development".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You do understand that there's a marked difference between a game being in pre-procution and one being in production?
                Like I said, the only difference between XV and XVI was XV was announced properly earlier.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >XV was announced properly earlier
                a great deal of good that has done for the industry why don't you add
                square enix especially, being retarded and announcing games way too early, which yoshi is now breaking the practice of because its absolutely stupid to do so for any game
                it should be commonplace in the industry to only announce a game close to release, not years ahead of time

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >which yoshi is now breaking the practice
                3 years between announcement and release is not breaking the practice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                its a better start over XV
                >mistranslations
                >10/11/12 damaged the brand
                yea ok buddy
                i think you have reading comprehension issues
                he clearly stated he knows XV has given a bad impression for the franchise on many gamers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                he didn't say that
                see

                wow cool empty nothing grassland ff16!

                YoshiP actually said he likes FFXV and that fans supported FFXV too but that some also say without the DLC it's too thin.

                Stop falling for mistranslations, he never said anything against FFXV as an opinion or anything about it altering the franchise

                >4Gamer:
                >Certainly, there have been young people that did not have an FF game released during their Junior High and High School years. (Referring to the longer release windows between games)

                >Yoshida:
                >If we can't get these people to think "FF is awesome!" we won't be able to spend on the development costs of FF in the future. Looking just at Japan, it's frustrating but true, that Monster Hunter sticks out more than FF. It can't be helped, since the games weren't released during their adolescences.
                >The impressions that FFXIV and FFXV made on people is also history that cannot be simply wiped clean. For example, even though FFXIV has been successfully rebuilt, it still went down in flames as a firestorm in online gaming history. Also, while I see it as a good game that was challenging, and there are many people who like FFXV and continue to support it, many point out that FFXV feels out of it's depth when it's just the base game without DLC. If you're in charge of a new entry, you have to accept these as fact.

                And in a seperate interview he said people say 10 or 11 or 12 are the worst or anything after 9 is bad so according to you yoship is asking 10 and 11 and 12 damaged the brand

                stop clinging to mistranslations

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              that says nothing to counter what you're responding to

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wow cool empty nothing grassland ff16!

      YoshiP actually said he likes FFXV and that fans supported FFXV too but that some also say without the DLC it's too thin.

      Stop falling for mistranslations, he never said anything against FFXV as an opinion or anything about it altering the franchise

      >4Gamer:
      >Certainly, there have been young people that did not have an FF game released during their Junior High and High School years. (Referring to the longer release windows between games)

      >Yoshida:
      >If we can't get these people to think "FF is awesome!" we won't be able to spend on the development costs of FF in the future. Looking just at Japan, it's frustrating but true, that Monster Hunter sticks out more than FF. It can't be helped, since the games weren't released during their adolescences.
      >The impressions that FFXIV and FFXV made on people is also history that cannot be simply wiped clean. For example, even though FFXIV has been successfully rebuilt, it still went down in flames as a firestorm in online gaming history. Also, while I see it as a good game that was challenging, and there are many people who like FFXV and continue to support it, many point out that FFXV feels out of it's depth when it's just the base game without DLC. If you're in charge of a new entry, you have to accept these as fact.

      And in a seperate interview he said people say 10 or 11 or 12 are the worst or anything after 9 is bad so according to you yoship is asking 10 and 11 and 12 damaged the brand

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Link to translation?

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So
    At this point I don't know if I want a gameplay trailer focusing on characters being actual characters or just a zone showcase trailer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just wish we got a trailer telling an actual narrative and not some weird ADHD clip roulette.
      >darkness!
      >Phoenix!
      >ambition!
      >Shiva!
      >dominant!
      >Empire!
      >Joshua!
      We're three trailers in and I'm still not sure why (at least according to he trailers) should I be interested in Clive, any of the characters named in the trailers, or even their countries. And I'm saying this as someone who loves political plots and adores FFXII for example despite its many shortcomings.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Agree
        This is why at the same time I want a trailer showing Clive walking in the big zones, a trailer in which he actually talks like a normal person with other human beings would sell me more on it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The latest trailer is a lore trailer, detailing the geography and kingdoms in the world.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You must have ADHD if after these 3 trailers and the website entries you can't figure out the plot and setting of XVI.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He didn't talk about not knowing what happens, but why he should care
          This is the difference, I actually know a lot of people who enjoy character focused stories and are just spacing out of 16 even now because not even one trailer was really character focused

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >character-focused
            Brainlet.

            Every good stories follow the setting and have the characters be a part of them, not vice versa.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is why ff12 is the most beloved and remembered of the franchise huh

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes? Along with FFT.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do your really believe in this? LoL
                Like, it is fine if you like ff12 and tactics the most, but if you think they are the most popular...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, when they talk about high brow fiction.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care how fucking popular it is, if it's good it's good and I don't need the masses to verify it for me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but the conversation was about the one most remembered, so it was about this topic
                I wasn't really talking about which one we consider the best or any other thing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh most remembered
                Stick to TikTok.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you constantly missdirecting
                I think ff12 is good to sleep while playing, but it is fine if you like it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OK bruh, keep sleeping.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He said he doesn't care because it's not interesting not that he doesn't know what they're showing

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the people who are complaining about having no personality here are VIIfags because they're so used with characters spouting dialogues that sound like they came straight from Tommy Wiseau's scripts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is weird because FFXVI cast are having more personality than some recent FF cast.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could say they have more conflict, but personality? At the moment they are the most one line character ever
        Can be different in the game tho

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, they do.
          I struggle to say the personality of XIII or XV cast.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The XV cast has a personality, the problem is how the plot is kinda inexistent so the only way you get any development or interactions is running in the big zones, and 13 cast has a personality, if you like it or not is another problem

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I struggle to describe any of them, sorry bud.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is fine

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think you fags are confusing troupes with personality. Doesn't mean troupes aren't personality, but they're personality on steroids, so to speak. They're commonly used because they're easily identifiable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Troupes aren't a problem, every story is built around Troupes because every element of plot was probably used before in some way
                They only become shit when they turn into cliché, this is why execution is more important than being original

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't say its a problem. But to say Clive doesn't have a personality is disingenuous just because you can easily identify the troupes the 4 bros in FFXV has.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah this is true, I think people are commenting about him more because even in the earliest trailers of 15 you could see the party interacting while we are on the third trailer and is just war and one liners

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They have, only because those characters are the dime of dozens you would've seen from popular anime shows you could easily tell what kind of personalities they possess.

            Not sure if it's a good thing though.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're fucking retarded
            this 4 second gif alone has more personality than all 3 ff16 trailers and info dumps and character bios they've shown

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              nobody thinks your sissy boyband dressed in black is interesting

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              barry, why do you hate ffxvi so much? it's not even out yet

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's afraid
                the GOT aspect will have normies shilling the fuck out of it and his game will be forgotten fast and hard even moreso
                like it already has been with 7R and jacks game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you fucking retarded?

        >but then walks that back, its not the best sign.
        how is this alarming at any rate you disingenuous gay
        production has gone smoothly they've reported they're focusing on bugs and just testing now
        what kind of fucking red flag are you picking up that nobody else is huh?
        who is criticizing XVI graphics?
        how does it look cheap?

        he literally said it hasn't been smooth only a month ago

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          so hes just lying in his most recent producers message?
          keep up this retarded act
          even an IQ at room temp sees through you already and knows you're just reaching to shit on the game in any way possible

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            bro he literally said that here

            Are you fucking retarded?

            [...]
            he literally said it hasn't been smooth only a month ago

            on stage at TGS only a month ago

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              let me repeat it again because maybe you didn't read
              so hes just lying in his most recent producers message? that came out like yesterday?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                he never said it was going smoothly and straight up said the devs would scold him if he said that
                so even if he ever said it the devs would scold him because its not going smoothly

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How fucking autistic are you? The way he said that was as an acknowledgement to the hard work of his team and not to make light of crunch.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No it was to say the games development hasn't gone smooth

            >no as a thing you had in previous dmc
            that was only included in a special edition both times, neither at launch
            >ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members
            Not really.
            >that not even the point you retard.
            You'd have to make one in the first place
            >the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them
            In special editions, not at launch. dmc3, dmc4 and dmc5 all added him in the special edition. So its not breaking expecations.
            XV though advertised them and then took them away.
            >again they were all made playable in base game
            after all their dlc had come out.
            >their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories
            gaping holes in the middle of the story so dlc could fill them in later.
            >wrapping up in the last few months of dev
            they were started talking about dlc a year before the game launched.

            I can play dmc4se or dmc3se before dmc5 released ergo i have played as vergil and expect to play as him in dmc5
            oh he's not playable in dmc5 base game? thats because they want to garden gnome you forcing yourself to buy more shit just to play as him

            have a nice day already sbk91

            xv never advertised playable party in any trailer footage you lying retard
            versus isnt xv
            versus was cancelled
            ever since 2012 only noctis was playable in the builds they made while the bros were AI and they focused on that direction when recreating everything from scratch when they moved to luminous

            they were all made playable for free you seething fuck, literally anyone who launches the game now has them able to be playable by default even without having any dlc

            there is no gaping holes you retard
            literally all 3 dlc are PARALLEL SIDESTORIES TO SHIT ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE GAME AS NOCTIS

            no they weren't retsrd
            they only started planning doing a set of dlc around Q2 2016 when they were in the optimisation and debugging phase of the game and so they ADDED sections in the game to frane those dlc around, they didn't cut them out from shit that was already there

            in 2015 at tgs they straight up said they had never had any plans for Gilgamesh in the game and that they might consider it after the games done
            in 2015 footage prompto is on the train when shiva freezes it meaning him getting pushed off the train to frame his dlc wasn't a thing back then
            you're a fucking idiot sbk91 kys

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              One of these days you're going to have a stroke Barry. And no one will mourn you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Barry is balls deep in benedikta right now

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, he's all the way in here.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I can play dmc4se or dmc3se
              So virgil is a special edition addition and should be expected in the special addition for 5, thanks for proving I'm right.
              >forcing yourself to buy more shit just to play as him
              sounds familiar.
              >xv never advertised playable party
              It did.
              >versus isnt xv
              It just wish it was.
              >they were all made playable for free
              but only after all their dlc was released
              >PARALLEL SIDESTORIES TO SHIT ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE GAME
              Ignis specifically happened while noctis was unconscious and wasn't doing anything.
              >they only started planning
              But brought up DLC as something they were going to do in 2015.
              >might consider it after the games done
              So DLC.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No vergil was playable before i played dmc5 so they should have made him playable in dmc5 by default bit they didn't because they knew they could garden gnome people

                xv bros are literally FREE you fucking retard and nobody played as them prior to xv releasing because they only debut in an actual game in XVs release

                no it wishes it wasn't but contacts meant they had to keep some versus shit in

                it is literally all free you dont need any dlc to play as them you retard

                ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional and COULDNT do anything so its literally not a fucking hole because he literally tells you he lost his sight as a sacrifice

                >going to
                no, they were asked questions and just said we'll maybe do stuff like that after the game is out because we have no plans to do that for the game now
                they never had any dlc plans prior to q2 2016 when in the debugging phase

                operating word being NOT PLANNED you fucking idiot
                they hadnt planned any dlc whatsoever and were just answering questions if yhis or that is in the game and they said no but might see if they could do something only after the game is out meaning nothing that was added as dlc post launch was ever planned for base game you stupid fuck
                kys already sbk91

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional
                what the fuck does this even mean

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No vergil was playable before i played dmc5
                In special editions only yes.
                >by default
                never promised
                >xv bros are literally FREE
                after they were cut and then sold as dlc
                >no it wishes it wasn't but contacts
                I don't think contracts had anything to do with the versus xiii references in the ardyn dlc
                >ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional and COULDNT do anything
                So not parallel like you just lied about
                >he literally tells you he lost his sight as a sacrifice
                offscreen with no further explanation, that's a gaping hole
                >we have no plans to do that for the game now
                oh they did.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you are projecting any critique on another group

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No we just expect there to be identifiable personality traits

      clive has no personality
      even joshua at least has some semblance of one being a meek weak little boy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everyone who doesn't suck my shitty game off is le 7 boogeyman
      Not making a good case for yourself here.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I swear this ff number with the most vitriolic ff fandom has nothing to do with this!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          14?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            14fags full of dicksuckers trannies who are too busy having virtual erps with each other. Meanwhile 7fags are always happy to shit on other mainline titles.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Somehow these ERP trannies have enough time to have a daily FF14 thread on Ganker while shilling another abomination conceived by Hackshida.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You mean your daily seething thread against yoshida, Barry. You're fooling no one here you worthless aborigin rape baby.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So 14?
          Like, I know that 7 fanbase is terrible(mostly in the shipper part)
          But 14 is pure cringe on the way they act like a cult which you can't criticize anything and the whole worship about yoship like he is Gaben in 2012 for PC master race guys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Many things in FF XIV can be criticized and they get criticized in the XIV threads every single fucking day.

            But any time XIV or XVI get brought up in other FF threads (or their own) on Ganker you get Barry and his copycats shitting up the threads with ad hominems and misinformation, and rendering it completely impossible to have any discussion until it's outside Aussie posting hours.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because these threads are full of insane people
              Honestly maybe 15's water was poisoned idk, something happened after it
              So when you add Ganker's usual behavior that is being negative about everything and schizos, nightmare scenario

              BTW, until Barry arrived I was agreeing with a lit of takes on this thread
              How Clive seems bland, but now it is just a shitshow

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Clive seems bland because he's literally gotten zero screentime so far.
                Which I acknowledge is a mistake marketingwise, but that doesn't allow for value judgements about the actual character in the actual game that is a year away from launch.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Totally agree
                It is just weird because we are used to seeing a main character and his party a lot in ff trailers
                So on this one we have action combat,not a defined party and a Mc that doesn't appears or talks much
                So i really can't blame older ff fans when they feel doubts about this direction

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Have we actually heard Clive talk at all? I remember Joshua and Jill, but not Clive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly
                Just generic one liners and some quick flashback with Jill
                Almost nothing, it is crazy how he just feels like a mmo self insert character that was put in that world after 3 trailers

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >you may only criticise from this approved list of 5 inconsequential things that ff14fag who shill the game endlessly complain about which nobody else cares about see look we totally criticise the game fairly and not with kid gloves!?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This
                They have a defined set of things people are allowed to criticize
                This shouldn't even be a strange take, everyone who gets in FF14 realizes the cult like performance really fast

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But 14 is pure cringe on the way they act like a cult which you can't criticize anything and the whole worship about yoship like he is Gaben in 2012 for PC master race guys
            This is a perfect example
            These mfs making posts about yoship like he is a Saint remember me how PC gamers acted in the 7th gen

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the first FF game in 20 years that may actually merit some attention after the cringe borefest XV and VIIR have been.

    >Actual fantasy setting
    >Not open world but areas divided by crystals/ eikons instead
    >Classic art design instead of zippers and belts and some areas have actual personality
    >No Nomrua

    Personally i think it should be even more stylized and i would certainly rather have classic combat back but, provided it`s more story driven and has less menial side quests than the latest entries, i `d be willing to compromise enough to give it a fighting chance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      16 is literally cringe borefest
      >generic setting
      >meaningless statement
      >literally full of fuccbois with bad unmemorable outfits and no personality

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it only on Ganker do I see folks hating on ffxvi? Like they trying to will it to fail for unknown reasons.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barry-san-tachi.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just cynics contrarians and shitposters. Also you and I both know everybody else are marvel enjoying goyslop consumers. We both know their opinions don't mean shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why is it only on Ganker do I see folks hating on ffxvi?
      No one really cares about xvi to give a shit outside of here.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just shitposters looking for a reason to be angry. Applies to most games on here btw

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I see people shitting on it everywhere.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        where?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          EVERYWHEEEEEERE

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why don't you want to say?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          somewhere in the endless sea of Barry's schizophrenic thoughts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh reddit circlejerk loves it so everyone else must too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should he be allowed to write the story for FF17?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't mind seeing him do a spinoff but he seems a bad fit for the mainline games.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He'd be no worse than Tabata, they have a fetish for killing off characters and labeling them as "Happy Endings"

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXVI, everyone.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That clip has actual dialogue and narrative weight, though. I assume that XVI does too, but we haven't seen it.

      Should he be allowed to write the story for FF17?

      Christ no. He's a one-note meme writer and I'd honestly prefer Nomura to write a FF than modern Taro and I fucking hate Nomura.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's having the same dialogue and weight as FFXVI.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Where have we seen XVI characters having an uninterrupted 2-minute dialogue scene?

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually think it's time for a CG trailer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Waste of time and resources.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the ff14 cg trailers are the only good thing about it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kek, the 14 cgi trailers are always the weakest. The in-game story trailers and patch trailers are always superior.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >implying any XIV trailer is superior to the ShB CG one
            Why are you lying, anon? It's pretty much trailer perfection from both the marketing and artistic standpoint.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the 14 in game shit is legitimately the worst fucking shit ff has ever done
            atrocious cutscene direction with literal characters just swivelling then nodding then snapping from 0 to 100 on idle to run pose

            ff14 cutscenes literally look like pokemon sword/shield tier terrible

            the end of an era cg is better than anything in ff14 itself

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FF16's Ambition trailer was perhaps too ambitious. Look at the FF8 trailer, it didn't take much to sell people on cool visuals, interesting combat, romance, drama, and a duel.

    FF16 is trying to sell us on a plot, and a world and depth, and characters, and gameplay. By attempting so much it's taking focus away from the strongest parts and any mistakes or failures undermine confidence.

    We didn't need to have an explanation of each kingdom, with each ruler shown, and some out of context line of dialogue to explain them. Just have the narrator tell us how there are many kingdoms/civilizations that arise around their respective crystal and their interactions and vying against each other are complex and dangerous. We don't need to see key dramatic moments and turns in the story showing a character dies.

    I'm fine with some darker aspects, but the action had so much darkness devastation and squalor that it made the world seem like it has less wonder and interest. It makes me think it's some uninteresting wasteland. It it trying to be Devil May Dark Souls with Final Fantasy 14 stories and magic crystals? Dark Souls may be dark and hopeless but it shows the world had wonder, beauty, grace and dignity that was lost.

    The combat gave me the impression of being too flashy. It makes me worry the player doesn't get that much control over it. It makes me think the combat will be too floaty, unrealistic, and focused on show that it won't feel quite as visceral and meaningful. Square Enix may not have the experience of making a DMC like game actually fun.

    So TL;DR it's more ambitious than they may be able to pull off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe there's was no need to show us the kingdom, but is it a bad thing?
      i think it was cool, some of the cities were really cool

      also i think you're gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The term you're looking for is "focus". VIII marketing clearly knew what it was selling: here's your cool soldier protag, here is your mysterious love interest, here's the beautiful war-torn world, and here's the witch you want to kill. In fact, all mainline FFs until XVI have had no problem really selling the basic premise with laser-sharp focus, except for maybe IX (buy this game to... kidnap the princess?). XVI, on the other hand, seems all over the place.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The term you're looking for is "focus".
        You're right.

        maybe there's was no need to show us the kingdom, but is it a bad thing?
        i think it was cool, some of the cities were really cool

        also i think you're gay

        >some of the cities were really cool
        Yeah, a couple looked cool on the surface. It didn't impress me to the degree that strategy games do when they do the same thing.
        >also i think you're gay
        You're right.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are ff threads so schizophrenic?
    >yoshiP said this and Nomura said that but if you actually interpret it this way it means a totally different thing so....
    >BUT YOSHIP PROMISED THIS! HE BROKE HIS PROMISES, TABATA WOULD NEVER...
    shut up
    no one fucking cares

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      where is the schizophrenia
      having a hard time deducing shitposters are you're just false flagging now that you have no points left

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't care about your arguments, i don't care about whos right and whos wrong, stop talking about these gay directors

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >stop talking about these gay directors
          ???

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The marketing isnt great. We have 3 trailers and they show:
      >people talking politics (boring for zoomers)
      >crazy kaiju fights (to weird for normies)
      >dmc style combat (hated by FF boomers)
      >very grounded and semi realistic artstyle (hated by the anime fags)
      >not a lot of waifus (coomers are disappointed)

      At least the graphics fags stopped talking shit after the 2nd trailer.

      I personally like the grand scope epic fantasy shit but the combat is very meh and thats all I know. There is no real gameplay, no exploration, no dungeons, no city gameplay, no questing, no leveling, no itemization, no inventory, no party, no talking to npc´s, etc shown, the shit you actually do in rpg games. For all we know this thing can be a FF13 style corridor game. Who knows?

      Just show some fucking gameplay outside of battles.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        we have until summer 2023 you fucking moron what you want them to drop the entire game now?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Showing a dude walking around a town or some real levels isnt showing the entire game. Revealing all the characters, nations, plot etc is showing much more than 2 minutes of fucking real gameplay. They already spoiled the pre timeskip shit.

          Just answer me this:
          Is the game open world, linear or area based?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but that's actually not much time at all considering we're talking about the very basics. We literally haven't seen ANY RPG gameplay or even normal dialogue scenes so far. The game could be one straight corridor with one hour of scattered 2-minute cutscenes for all we know. I don't think it is, but we have no visual proof it isn't.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly sometimes it just sounds like some people are still on copium and hoping the game will somehow be something it obviously isn't.

            FF XVI's gameplay? Here goes, from what I pieced together from the trailers and interviews:
            Linear corridors and setpieces alternating with Witcher 2/FF XII style open areas and towns/quest hubs. Classic FF style exploration in those zones, hunt monsters and loot chests/hidden items.
            DMC style combat with 3 equippable eikons at a time and interchangeable special ability slots, consumables for hp recovery/damage and stagger boosts. Dog companion who is basically just a cooldown attack/stun/stagger increase, think Atreus in GoW.
            No party members though in some fights Dominants will pop up in eikon form as a LB attack, bes case scenario the game has short segments where you control another Dominant with a limited moveset for a short while.
            No dialogue options, completely linear.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Name 1 thing wrong with being a pedophile

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day already nomurafag

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah the game looks cool. Especially after the k pop road trip of the last one.

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cid confirmed to be voiced by Ralph Ineson.
    https://twitter.com/ralphineson/likes

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if they showed all those factions because you'll actually get to choose one

  73. 2 months ago
    Typical

    I was mad hyped by the trailer, goosebumps and all
    sorry you are so dead to the world op?
    nice cry thread though, see name √

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    salesfags will never make sense to me
    it doesn't matter if a game is popular if you enjoy it
    >but they won't make more
    so? that's addict behavior. quit being a bitch

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why are you shitting your pants so hard when theres barely much to critique? and still months to go for more info?
    are you retarded?
    the game isn't even out yet and you're making these threads day and night
    really worried about XV huh barry, only you would get your panties in a knot defending that gay boyband

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's 3 fucking trailers and a bunch of character bios and lore shit and its still all bland as fuck
      are you that buttblasted that yoshitpisses mature ff for mature gamers like yourself is getting mogged posthumosly by boyband game?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bland as fuck
        whats bland as fuck here is the empty grass areas and gas stations of FFXV
        the only mogging your boyband game can ever claim its name to is the disastrous amount of time wasted in dev hell

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope what's bland is 16s literal nothing empty grassland
          fucking hammerhead is more inspired than any fucking location in 16
          16 has literally been in dev hell for 7 years
          xv was never in dev hell, you're confusing it with nomuras failed versus garbage

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >all this image compilation
            >only shows 3, THREE "points of interest"
            Kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Barry they literally just showed huge ass crystals and cities as points of interest/setpieces in the trailer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >being able to see the same landmark from the entire game world means exploration
            >NOT that the world is tiny

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            thanks for showing off the various biomes in XVI i didnt have to post that image myself, how kind of you
            oh... something XV didn't have right?
            just grass and uhhh maybe 1 big cave for a few minutes?

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why can't you just show me where the hate is so i can read it? Ganker hate is so boring. its all waifu/sales/graphicsgayry

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I could discuss FFXV on this site. But some retarde autist had to ruin it forever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah
      I think XV shits the bed story-wise but is really good in letting you interact with your party members while you ran across that world
      Sad how every discussion is derailed here

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I remember seeing a twitter post recently suggesting there's some cool stuff happening on the FFXV modding scene
        It's a shame that the guy above me has done more damage to the game's reputation on here than he'll ever understand and it's impossible to talk about such things now

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes
          I think that XV's first open zone even if bad implemented made people love and interact with those characters a lot
          And this carries the whole game because you need to care at least a bit about them in order for that end to work
          Everything else is a disaster

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no such damage occured
          nomurafags are just whiny piss babies unable to let go of their fanfic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I liked FFXV
            YOU are the one that makes it difficult to talk about, not Versusfags

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >YOU are the one that makes it difficult to talk about, not Versusfags

              agreed, Barry's actions are making the ENTIRE XV fanbase look bad

              [...]

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No its nomurafags like this gay Nathan here

              >I can play dmc4se or dmc3se
              So virgil is a special edition addition and should be expected in the special addition for 5, thanks for proving I'm right.
              >forcing yourself to buy more shit just to play as him
              sounds familiar.
              >xv never advertised playable party
              It did.
              >versus isnt xv
              It just wish it was.
              >they were all made playable for free
              but only after all their dlc was released
              >PARALLEL SIDESTORIES TO SHIT ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE GAME
              Ignis specifically happened while noctis was unconscious and wasn't doing anything.
              >they only started planning
              But brought up DLC as something they were going to do in 2015.
              >might consider it after the games done
              So DLC.

              and this gay here

              just a heads up, Barry made a another shitposting thread on XVI

              [...]

              just a heads up, Barry made a another shitposting thread on XVI

              [...]

              I've literally not even posted in that thread yet you seething fuck I didn't even know that thread was there until you just linked it just now

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you calling ff15 schizos nomurafags?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No its
                You. You're the one that ruined all FFXV discussion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No just ff14chuds and seething nomurafags ruined it

      Bros
      Imagine when forspoken and ff16 releases and Barry have to start acting like forspoken is kino
      Such hard fate awaits this child

      everyone confirmed forspoken is kino

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No just ff14chuds and seething nomurafags ruined it
        Okay then, tell me how I can stop being overleveled
        Am I just supposed to wear the nixperience band right from the very start?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          your damage output and stats is largely boosted by weapon loadout but yes nyxperience band as early as possible will prevent overlevelling

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Okay then, tell me how I can stop being overleveled
          god that reminds me of the time I posted a few webms showing FFXV's final boss being beaten in 5 button presses
          after all was said and done apparently none of it counted because I happened to be like 2 levels higher than the "recommended level" for Ardyn (fuck me for going out my way to do optional hunts and stuff, right?)
          you can't even find out what this "recommended level" is supposed to be from the game itself, I'm pretty sure this was some Prima guide book level shit, lol

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros
    Imagine when forspoken and ff16 releases and Barry have to start acting like forspoken is kino
    Such hard fate awaits this child

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    remember the simple times when final fantasy games were set in, well, fantasy-like settings?
    what happened to all that? what is this really lame medieval high realistic crap? i cant even tell ffxv and ffxvi apart

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah people transforming into giant monsters on a continent that is slowly dying and the last hospitable regions around fuckhuge crystals is medieval high realistic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the hell are you talking about

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      FF XVI is the most fantasy the series has been since XII wtf.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nah my dude
        FF13's setting is sick
        You may not like the execution of it
        But that world is kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Low fantasy is also fantasy, anon.
      That said, it's weird how much XVI seems like T-0 so far except kinda muddled.
      >four countries centered on different crystals
      >chosen fighters that transform into FF summons in exchange for their apparently rather unvalued lives
      >one country is focused on tradition, one is ambitious (which is the empire, obviously), and another is reclusive
      >crystals are fucking shit up
      And you've also got the Starscourge to make things more fun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also it's all in the wake of a highly advanced floating island/spacefaring civ that crashed and burned 1500 years ago.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        are fucking shit up
        crystals are actually saving people by giving them the only hospitable land left. I know there will be some twist, and im very sure the empire isnt the real bad boy, more like the first half antagonist. They will pull some studio trigger shit twist "actually we are trying to safe you from the aliums(demons/ancients)"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's easier to just copy paste real life
      https://twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/655096152954572803/photo/1

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Low fantasy is also fantasy, anon.
      That said, it's weird how much XVI seems like T-0 so far except kinda muddled.
      >four countries centered on different crystals
      >chosen fighters that transform into FF summons in exchange for their apparently rather unvalued lives
      >one country is focused on tradition, one is ambitious (which is the empire, obviously), and another is reclusive
      >crystals are fucking shit up
      And you've also got the Starscourge to make things more fun.

      is this low fantasy?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is this low fantasy according to Ganker

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno but it's low-res alright.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just a heads up, Barry made a another shitposting thread on XVI

    [...]

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guys the derpland is back

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