Really didn't see anything appealing in that even slightly. Can't believe that trailer was so long and showed so little, though. Never in my life did I think I'd be so bored during an FF trailer that I'd actually need to start skipping through it.
And we still don't even know what the frick the gameplay of this game is. That's very very telling. They seem to think anyone cares about this supposed story or these knockoff characters, but they have to be the driest that have ever come out of Japan, honestly. I can't be the only one that thinks this voice acting is pretty terrible too, can I? You have bored British voice actors lifelessly uttering lines from the sheet while their minds drift off somewhere else. It's like they are trying to mimic FFXII, but have absolutely no clue how to do it or how to write at all.
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>I want to see everything before the game releases!!!!
marketinggays are subhumans
>nooooooo let the devs lie to me
>noooooo i want to be spoiled
100000% guarantee this is the argument between the two that is viewed as moronic. You lost, Barry.
its final fantasy the gameplay either is selecting attacks from a menu or holding circle to watch the game play itself
Or in the case of FF13, select attack over and over, and the game chooses the most optimal attack patterns for you, literally no reason to think at all.
Man, what a disgrace this series has become after 12.
>Man, what a disgrace this series has become after 12.
and even then it had been sliding since 8
9 is better than 8, cope
My dude people in the 90s knew that 8 was better than 9
So you are a little late to realize that
>the game chooses the most optimal attack patterns for you, literally no reason to think at all.
Yeah maybe in the first chapter, try keeping that up for the whole game.
it's dmc with stats, are you that braindead that you haven't recognized patterns and figured it out by now?
Yoshida cultists' mental gymnastics on why this game isn't day one bargain bin material is very entertaining. It was apparent two years ago that FF16 is a failure when they revealed it to be a playable Dragon Age with GRRM politics.
>Never in my life did I think I'd be so bored during an FF trailer that I'd actually need to start skipping through it.
Just stop criticizing it, okay? It took Yoshi-P a lot of elbow grease to research and come up with a list of games to rip off.
I bet he's crying again on the stage.
>only 450k views
lmao
Forspoken won
nice blogpost homosexual, but nobody cares
go back
>fantasy world
>sane practical weapon/armor designs unlike the over-the-top shit in XIII/XIV
>DMC combat
>areas shown thus far (besides one city) don't have that blatant themepark look to their designs
Really the only complaint I'd have with what I see is why it looks like a last-gen game, but we haven't seen what the scale of the environments/combat encounters look like, and whether the game is targeting 60fps.
>DMC sandbags
Is this supposed to be a selling point?
Compared to FF12-15 combat? Yes.
All they had to do was build upon 7R
That's what Rebirth is doing. Do you want all the games to play the same?
cringe
7-9 had pretty much the same ATB but with a different flavour and people loved it
My main gripe is that 16 is not a partybased game
Fans of 7, 8 and 9 would ardently disagree with your assessment of them. 7gays would talk about the materia, 8gays would talk about drawing magic, and 9gays would talk about learning skills from their gear. And each other gay would complain about the same thing those gays praised. Well, join the turn-based gays, the command-based gays, the gacha gays and the MMO gays, because 16 ain't any of that shit. Kitase will have more FF7R nipslop for you in next winter, so suck it up.
>My main gripe is that 16 is not a partybased game
Last time we had a solo FF, it gave us the best combat mode the series had to that point.
Disgusting.
This game's combat already looks more intricate than 7R's.
>dedicated jump button, meaning launchers and aerials
>air dashing
>equippable summons that give sets of skills to compliment your core moveset and can be cycled between in real time
moron confused flashiness with complexity.
>7R combat
>complex in any way
>MMO cooldowns
>complex
Within the context of this particular game, cooldowns actually make sense.
">MMO Cooldowns
>Complex"
Post your logs, Barry.
Imagine defending this
The colour pallate and dim lightning are the biggest offenders, it's brown and bloom UE3 all over again
Considering the hack behind the Last Remnant is in charge
Anon, it's overcast weather. Unless you're one of those 'gamers' who needs a ReShade profile for every game to crank the saturation levels.
>it's overcast weather.
Cope more, homosexual.
>compares painting to a render
This board really is filled with dumbasses who knows jackshit about videogames. No wonder "GTAVI looks like shit" was trending.
>OMG game developers literally couldn't match the vibrancy of cocept art with in-game graphics
The Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one.
Gee no shit moron. It's like they're using vastly different lighting and shaders or something. Jesus frick. If they were really trying to make it look like the painting, the entire game has to look different. It's not because they can't its because they chose this meme realism bullshit. For example, look at KH4's trailer. A game with two tonally different designs. One with the realism bullshit in "Quadratum" and the more cartoony Goofy and Donald.
Personally, I find a "puke green" way worse.
>Panton 448 C
>the ugliest color
>it’s just the median brown skin color
>noooooooooooooo why doesn't it resemble a brightly colored pastel cartoon that's limited to one board by GR15
I'm glad nobody in the industry gives a shit what morons here have to say about anything.
I just can't play FF game without playing as a customizable scarcely clothed Miqo'te girl.
FF is dead since XII. I dunno who wants to play FF games besides people who played some FF games in their youth.
Young people (12-18) aren't interested in Final Fantasy at all.
Young people are poor and plat f2p shit anyway, so scalping boomers is the only strategy here
Young people weren't interested in Final Fantasy before 7 came along.
>wanting to hear dilation
Seems like the series was always pro-troony.
>dude cutscenes lmao!
how are people impressed by any of this? HOW?
The gameplay is a fricking awesome, look at the combo.
that was just a canned scripted attack
7r is shit
15 is good
any complaint you have against 15 applies to dmc5 too
>have against 15 applies to dmc5
dmc5 doesn't have party members who were cut from being playable and then added back in the game without adjusting them, so they're overpowered and throw off the main game's balance.
vergil was added playable post launch so yes it does
>vergil
is not a party member.
he literally functions as a player character which is dmcs equivalent of a party
>he literally functions as a player character
*doesn't show up until the final hour of the game and isn't in a party.
don't lie about the game barry.
he's literally playable in previous dmc and wasnt playable in 5 at launch
and they made you pay to play as him
that's far worse than xv devs added character switch for free for the whole game
>he's literally playable in previous dmc
as an after launch bonus both times but never a party member.
>that's far worse than xv devs added character switch for free for the whole game
no, because the xv characters were advertised as playable from the start before that was cut so they could shill dlc. then they added them back in the game.
no as a thing you had in previous dmc you now have to buy even after already having dmc5
playable character is the extent of gameplay dmc as what a party is in ff
ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members in a ff being playable
ergo its literally the same fricking thing
it is irrelevant that dmc doesn't have a party, that not even the point you moron.
the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them and forced to pay extra long after launch to play as them again
while in 15 literally nobody played versus so nobody has any right to complain about them not being playable at launch when nobody had experienced them before so you didn't get anything taken from you, and they still added character switch for free to play as the whole party
the gameplay they have in xv isnt even what they were like in that barebones 30 seconds of footage we see them as in that versus trailer
and again they were all made playable in base game FOR FREE not to shill any dlc
their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories in new locations against new bosses and not anything ever even planned to be in the game when they were making base game
they made all that dlc after the fact and only started planning it when xv was wrapping up in the last few months of dev
>no as a thing you had in previous dmc
that was only included in a special edition both times, neither at launch
>ergo being playable or not in dmc is akin to party members
Not really.
>that not even the point you moron.
You'd have to make one in the first place
>the point is something dmc fans already had in previous games was taken from them
In special editions, not at launch. dmc3, dmc4 and dmc5 all added him in the special edition. So its not breaking expecations.
XV though advertised them and then took them away.
>again they were all made playable in base game
after all their dlc had come out.
>their dlc were all brand new self contained sidestories
gaping holes in the middle of the story so dlc could fill them in later.
>wrapping up in the last few months of dev
they were started talking about dlc a year before the game launched.
>15 is good
lmao, slow overanimated garbage cant be compared to dmc kino
combat speed in it is the same as in dmc5 if not faster through all warp actions
overanimated? have you seen neros dlow ass run when he's holding his weapon behind him? that's slow overanimating
If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game or a Japanese game altogether for that matter. Disappointment across the board. Square Enix is run by creatively bankrupt hacks.
So, you would've preferred 16 to be more orthodox and inline with previous Final Fantasy games and that would make them less creatively bankrupt?
>every female character in 7R is some cringy variation of Vanille
i fricking hate 13 so much bros
They are the same since OG 7, written by the same old boomers, but you didn't notice because pixels.
Vanille is one the best FF girls.
I don't like flat girls but damn vanille has some sexy legs.
Still the FF with worst story besides XV and XIV.
Jesus Christ I forgot how shit the summon designs in XIII were.
>If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game
You could say the same for the PS1 & PS2 FF entries. Only thing that ties FFs together is just general themes, and even then some don't abide by them.
Any game with summons will inevitably be compared to final fantasy.
>summons
>chocobos
>Cid
It's a FF game. That's literally the only requirement for a game to be an FF game: the title and recurring elements.
>If it wasn't titled Final Fantasy no one would suspect it being a Final Fantasy game
What would you say the heart and soul of an ff game that 16 is missing? The only thing that links them all is chocobos,moogles and dudes named Cid.
>game with big ass monsters, crystals and riding birds
If it weren't FF I would assume it was trying to be FF
I liked it. Honestly, I like everything I've seen of XVI so far, don't know why some of you have a hateboner for it.
the game reminds me a lot of asuras wrath, but with a budget. just mostly a qte movie not really a videogame
QTE movies with a budget are kino.
>shamelessly putting that in just to showcase their hot shit CGI without a cutscene
Unironically one of my favorite parts of the game. It was skeezy, but it had soul.
I don’t think I’ve ever cared less about a new FF game. It looks boring, and XIV trannies have ruined any excitement I would’ve had for this game by constantly shilling it everywhere.
To be completely honest, I’m more interested in Forspoken.
also I’m aware that this reads like a Barry post, but it’s true. Hopefully it comes out and is good, but right now It’s not interesting to me at all.
To each their own. For me XVI is hitting all the right notes, I'm very interested in it.
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This at least that has something unique going on with the magic parkour and exclusively mage focussed combat
16 just looks like nero combat but worse
It looks really ugly.
this. It's full with modern effects and has a soulless look. Like an upgrade FFXIV.
it looks like a scrapped ff14 online idea
Hate how bad FF has come
Not saying go back to Round based but frick this DMC style gameplay doesnt suit the game
What the frick do you mean doesn't suit the game? You can't mean it doesn't suit the franchise because it's gone through 9 different battle systems at this point for mainline. 12 if you count spinoffs
Turn Based, ATB, CTB, CTB, RTB, ADB, CSB, SATB, AXB
And for spinoffs
Unamed ATB adjacent for WoFF
Whatever that bullshit was in crisis core
TPS for Dirge
RTS for Revenant Wings
SRPG for Tactics Advance
Basically what the frick are you on about?
How are you this mad?
Come on, bruh.
Think mainline FF anon
Anon, mainline final fantasy had nothing similar between them to the exception of 3 and 5 besides the existence of a job system
This isn't exactly dragon quest where we've moved two decades and the format has barely budged an inch.
The people want 3-5 homies in a row. All that stuff you’re spouting is just irrelevant details.
They clearly don't, since five homies in a row FF don't sell for shit anymore.
what wouldnt fit the game would be slow ass turn based game
I thought FFXV was fun. Yes it was easy but I can't recall ever being challenged by an FF game
>there is more hype about Persona 5 Steam port than a new FF
pathetic
Yoshida trailers get progressively more robust and detailed the closer you get to release.
I excited for 16 but only because we have had a lack of above average fantasy rpgs over the last 5 years
Only ff I ever liked was crystal chronicles though so I'm not invested in the franchise
You have to question all those people clamoring about "generic medieval fantasy game" when
>The Witcher 3 was 7 years ago
>Dragon Age: Inquisition was 8 years ago
>Skyrim has been re-released and re-released for 11 years now
Fromsoftware are the only ones on the market and they have their own niche covered.
Yeah it's a very underserved market, it was a dominant sector of video games for a very long time. And of course dnd is still huge in tabletop but kind of just disappeared from video games until recently
The reason why this game is fricking failing is because they refuse to show off the world in the last 2 trailers as i feel an interesting world is what gains interest
All we have seen is either a bland battlefield where a war takes place or inside castle/village walls. I complained about this issue when the second trailer came out and a bunch of Yoshi P dicksuckers jumped down my throat. Nobody even knew if it was open world or not until they had to announce it cause they showed so little
And when they showed interesting locations it was THROUGH FRICKING SCREENSHOTS. Yoshi P shouldnt of produced this game. The hype has never even existed in the slightest and we are apparently 9 months from release. I cant believe Yoshi P killed final fantasy when he shouldve revived it
The game is like a year away when the 2nd trailer was released you donut. If they release gameplay trailers now, what are they going to show for the rest of the bloody year. Especially next year's E3/Summer Games Fest.
>If they release gameplay trailers now
7remake had a showcase at the e3 before it launched (almost a year before) to show off its gameplay and then did another at TGS (6 months before)
That isn't an excuse.
Frick sakes you really are a dumb piece of shit. VIIR's release date is BEFORE the E3 of the year it is released. Of course its going to use the E3 of the previous year to showcase its gameplay and have a big information blowout. XVI is obviously going to be AFTER E3 of next year. Gee weeez, I wonder why aren't they showing off gameplay just yet.
>release date is BEFORE the E3 of the year it is released
By this logic, XVI should have been shown off at TGS. Unless you think the game is going to be delayed.
>I wonder why aren't they showing off gameplay just yet.
They aren't confident in what they're showing.
Frick sakes. Compare the numbers of viewership of TGS to fricking E3 you dumb frick.
>but viewership
7remake showed off at TGS. Other games have as well. This isn't an excuse.
>fricking E3
You mean the event that was dead for the past 3 years? Think about your posts for a second.
Showed what? One fricking boss fight? That's literally it. They're just repeating whatever information they've shown at E3 of that year.
>You mean the event that was dead for the past 3 years? Think about your posts for a second.
So? Did it died because viewership plummeted? It died because of circumstances that are out of their control. And they can't have an online only event because that would conflict with Keighley's Summer Games Fest. But frick it, make whatever shit up inside your dumb, moronic head. Done talking to a twat that convinces himself in his own made up delusion.
>One fricking boss fight? That's literally it.
Because they already had a full gameplay demonstration at the E3. There was nothing stopping SE from doing the same for XVI at TGS.
>make whatever shit up inside your dumb, moronic head
You worked yourself up by making up excuses for XVI and couldn't think of anything good. Despite games before it showing off gameplay well before they ever came out.
You are allowed to criticize games you are looking forward to playing you know.
>You are allowed to criticize games you are looking forward to playing you know.
Piss off. Don't try to make as if you're martyr or doing the gaming community a service. You're not criticizing the game. You're criticizing the fricking marketing behind it. Those two fricking thing doesn't correlate at all.
>You're not criticizing the game.
I would like the game more if the game actually showed me anything. Which is why I'm weary about the actual state of the game. Not showing it off is never a good sign.
>You're criticizing the fricking marketing behind it.
And you're whiteknighting it for some reason. SE isn't paying you to act like a child.
>Y-YOU'RE A S-SHILL!!
Pretty rich coming from a moron that cares about marketing and "HYPE". But is still too moronic that he can't grasp the basic concept of marketing.
>But is still too moronic that he can't grasp the basic concept of marketing
not him but the game barely has any marketing in the first place. Its nonexistent and nobody cares about this game. A moronic anon could do a better job. Nobody wants this game so i feel like the marketers failed
>Nobody wants this game
*You* don't want this game. A handful of very vocal shitposters on this board don't want this game.
It will sell millions just for being a mainline FF alone, the online clamoring of the vocal part of a disparate and fractured franchise fanbase is absolutely meaningless compared to the silent approval of the masses.
>silent approval of the masses.
How'd that work out for XIV 1.0
Different situation is that was a sub-based MMO with extremely high system reqs at the time.
FF XV was an unfinished dev hell trainwreck and it sold millions.
>Different situation
You said the silent approval of the masses will carry it. They won't just bend over every time FF releases a game.
>and it sold millions.
Didn't stop tabata from getting fired and its dlc getting canned.
Reputation will get you so far.
>Didn't stop tabata from getting fired
Tabata wasn't fired, he left with severance pay and took a good chunk of his team to make a new studio.
The guy was their janitor when it came to throwing out releases, because Nomura sure wasn't consistently releasing big projects outside of kingdom hearts in a timely manner.
>Tabata wasn't fired,
yes he was.
>took a good chunk
lol no he didn't. He took between 5-10 people. Most of the workers at his 1 room studio are new employees.
>because Nomura sure wasn't consistently releasing big projects
The only one he didn't release was versus.
>and it sold millions
Does anyone actually believe this crap? I remain unconvinced knowing that they count every Gamepass download as sale.
they don't count gamepass as a single sale and xv had already sold over 9m before it was even added to gamepass over 3 years after it released,
ff7r was added to ps+1 less than a year after it released and was still at 5m
FFXV is finished
it was versus that was dev hell
ff16 has been in dev longer than ffxv too and according to yoshiP back in 2020 they were still planning to release it on ps4 but then cancelled the ps4 version
>FFXV is finished
The game is incomprehensible without background and setup provided in tie-ins. Locations hyped up for years like Tenebrae aren't even in the game except as a train station.
You are a fricking brainlet
literally nothing outside the game is required to understand anything in the story
everything to do with the actual story in the game is first introduced in the game and resolves in the game
tenebrae was shown once for like 5 seconds like a few months before release and you still do more there than 90% of what you do in midgar which is just jpg backgrounds and hallways not an actual city
you can't even explain how kingsglaive is required to understand anything
so regis dies? ok? we know he dies because the game lets us know, there's nothing else to know about that
ravus lost his arm? ok we know because townsfolk, news reports and the party all talk about ravus being in the city and losing his arm getting it replaced with a magitek one, nothing outside the game is required for that
niflheim stole the crystal? you literally learn that in the game
luna has the ring of the lucii? literally her first present time cutscene in the game shows her showing it to gentiana and nodding, the fricking movie doesn't even mention she is the oracle which is what her actual role in the story is which the game mentions, the party mentions, every fricking chapter and scenes shown of her doing oracle duties and townsfolk talking about her Oracle duties
it has the single most straightforward story in the franchise how are you actually this fricking stupid?
OK Barry.
Cope
Seethe.
mald
bounty reveals dont show shit
koby being mentioned kidnapped literally occured offscreen in a chapter koby was in and ending with the newspaper saying he's kidnapped
sabo killing cobra was mentioned in the newspaper by people reading the paper only and never shown what actually happened
everything in xv gets revealed and anything relevant to main story is shown
OK Barry, you can stop now.
You can stop coping now
it is
it was hugely successful
14 is killing ff and 16 just looks bland
none of the characters even look like what every other FF has as characters
if you said the ff16 cast were from triangle strategy or octopath or bravely default id believe you because the designs are so non distinct and muted and boring
>14 is killing ff and 16 just looks bland
OK Barry.
cope
>it was hugely successful
FF15 was generally considered a 7-8/10 and even people who played all of it came away hating it for the ending. It was a success from a sales perspective, but that was off of hype. FF16 is not hyped because FF15 failed to live up to its own.
The XV ending is the one thing pretty much everybody can agree was stellar and one of the strongest in the series. Say what you will about the rest, but it really stuck the landing.
Ironically XII does have a good example of strong character writing complementing the setting and worldbuilding: Vayne and co. Archadia has an excellent story of how the setting shapes people and relationships and vice versa. Problem is, 90% of this story is confined into the Ultimania and we follow some ignorant paper-thin chucklefricks instead.
>Ironically XII does have a good example of strong character writing complementing the setting and worldbuilding: Vayne and co. Archadia has an excellent story of how the setting shapes people and relationships and vice versa. Problem is, 90% of this story is confined into the Ultimania and we follow some ignorant paper-thin chucklefricks instead.
Yeah
This is why I think execution is the most important
While ff12 has a great world and characters with potential, it isn't unusual to hear someone saying "man, I couldn't connect with 12, I just didn't give a shit about the story or characters"
XV has higher average fan reception than any FF and more awards than any FF and better sales from launch to now than any FF did in a comparable timespan
FF15 literally keeps fricking selling you mong, its the best selling FF on steam now too
>FFXV takes 8 years to make during a time when development costs are exponential
>can't even out sale FFVII on Steam, a game made in 2 years
No ffxv under tabata only took 3-4 years
ff7 on steam is literally $6-$12 and took 5 years to hit 1m on steam
ffxv on steam was $50 and only occasionally $25 during steam sales when it launched on steam and it sold 1m in 1 year on steam and is now 1.5m-2m on steam
og ff7 is the only ff with comparable sales to xv on steam but it sold far slower and far cheaper than xv is on steam
all the other ffs are below 1m on steam
and 14 counts free trial accounts as its players on steam so literal fake numbers
>everything in xv gets revealed and anything relevant to main story is shown
then explain the true ending novel?
You use novel only content to defend XV and yet you decry the Novel as "alt timeline none canon" whenever someone brings up the fact it exists
>true ending
>what if fan fiction
true ending is in the base game you fricking moron twewysperg
being non canon doesn't mean its still not official you fricktard, official content like in dbz games where goku fuses with freeza or teams up with cell or whatever the frick, it's not canon but it's still OFFICIAL
learn the difference already you stupid fricking xiv Black person holy fricking shit how are you this fricking stupid?
it was being made the same reason the alternate ending in episode ignis is a thing you fricking moron, to show different outcomes if different things that weren't beholden to the canon happened, it literally wasn't part of the actual story and the true ending is the story in the base game which they literally fricking said when they announced it you fricking moron.
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>The theme is an ALTERNATE grand finale, of course we're not trying to overwrite the existing ending, the ending for FFXV is THE ending for FFXV, but like we did with Episode Ignis we want to give players a choice to see a possible different outcome.
Meanwhile ff7r has its canon true backstory in a novel and its true ending hasn't even fricking released yet while requiring you to buy a PS5 and play mobile garbage canon to ff7r to understand the actual unfinished garbage that 7R always will be.
Stay debunked moron.
sic 'em barry
suck me timmy
>tell not show
might as well listen to the audio book of FFXV
I bet you seeth over newspaper reveals in one piece or kurapika only telling the gang he's on revenge against the Phantom troupe and never showing why
even in manga chapter that did is a special one off chapter thar is considered outside of hunter x hunter regular chapters itself and the anime shows 0 of it too
>newspaper reveals in one piece
Those chapters usually also show glimpses of what happened or later chapters go back and reveal what happened.
>kurapika
I don't read hiatusxhiatus.
Can you explain this using shojo manga? I'm sorry anon I was never into shonens.
Good to see you awake, Barry.
Now do us all a favor and go to sleep forever.
That's not at all a similar circumstance. The frick
Do the silent masses also not need to watch the latest trailer, because they are already sold on the game and have their PS5s at the ready for Yoshida's (no doubt) masterpiece?
Are these silent masses in the room with us right now?
New trailer already has over a million views after one day, what are you on about?
No, you don't get it. The game is not spammed on Ganker and no one's talking about which teenage anime girl they want to jerk off to. This means the game has 0 hype!
>million views after one day,
*added up across multiple youtube channels
ftfy. The highest actual view count on one channel isn't even at half a million.
For reference, the ign video for resident evil 4's gameplay is at 1 million.
>THE HYPE DOESN'T EXISTS GUYS!
>twitter video with not even a million views yet
was this supposed to prove what I said wrong
>I-IT DOESN'T COUNT
>million views after one day!
>added up across multiple channels
>posts a video that itself doesn't have a million views
>posts a second one that isn't even at half a million.
You literally just keep proving me right.
>DUDE 700K IS GOOD JUST TRUST
>…IGNORE THOSE OTHER GAMING TRAILERS THAT ARE GETTING MILLIONS
this is just sad at this point
Same bots that inflate XIV player count.
>I-IT'S JUST B-BOTS!
now show the retweets
HAHAHAHAHAHA WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO DISPROVE ANYTHING?
Yeah, I'm sure trending on twitter twice doesn't count init.
>Chainsawman OP
>8.9 million views on a JP account alone
https://twitter.com/CHAINSAWMAN_PR/status/1579856860651233281
Wasn't Final Fantasy AAA franchise?
>comparing anime to a videogame
NOW I know you're actually, genuinely moronic.
no it doesn't lol
twitter counts scrolling over a vid for 1 second and any autoplay when scrolling by it as a view
ur acting like i want this game to fail but i dont
>disparate and fractured franchise fanbase
So you admit the fanbase is in such a shit position that it will potentially frick up the sales?
>silent approval of the masses
And that “silent approval” is much smaller than you think. It barely exists. FFXVI has received the most average reaction to the trailers ive ever seen for a brand new game in a once massively beloved franchise. It gets memoryholed the day after the trailer releases and i never hear about the game again outside of the talk about the event that the game came from. When people talk about future game releases, not one time do i hear this game
You clearly are a newbie to this franchise who jumped into this franchise only for the MMO because you forget the massive hype FF versus 13/FFXV got for many years. This game doesnt even come close to 5% of its hype. Final Fantasy was once one of the biggest gaming franchises alive and you treat this nonexistant hype like it exists when even indie games get more. Even FF7R sold pretty poorly for a Final Fantasy game and that game had DECADES of fricking hype. Why do you think this game will not be the worst selling mainline FF? Enjoy your “silent approval” headcanon
I've been playing FF since IV on a modded PAL Super Nintendo so it could play NTSC cartridges.
You seem to have absolutely no notion that it's 2022 and how fractured and bubbled internet communities are now compared to 20, 10, even 5 years ago. How gaming demographic has changed. It's completely normal FF isn't the big thing it was in the late 90's. Back then it was a big fish in a little pond.
It's normal long-term hypes are no longer a thing because dev hells like Versus XIII/XV proved it's a bad idea to announce and market games too early in advance, not to mention the recent Covid impact.
But still, even in 2022, one thing hasn't changed, in fact it has gotten even more pronounced: for every "hobbyist" gamer who watches every trailer the moment they release, who discusses them on forums and imageboards, there are two dozen who ignore marketing and just buy because of brand name or cool box art and probably never even finish the game. Yet they'll still buy the next one.
Depressing, I know.
>It's normal long-term hypes are no longer a thing
I disagree. Games like Zelda can absolutely dominate that hype even more after 30+ years. You forget that the hype for FFXV wasnt that long ago and happened during this more modern gaming age. The franchise is dead and at this point i wouldnt be surprised if Xenoblade 3 and Persona 6s sales will surpass this
>You forget that the hype for FFXV wasnt that long
FF XV launched 6 years ago grandpa.
Ffxv was announced in 2007.
ffxv sold better at launch and has sold better since than any ff sold at last or in their first 6 years
no ffxv was announced in 2013
versus was announced in 2006 and that game was cancelled in 2012
>that cares about marketing
I care that the game isn't showing me anything to be excited about. XVI is not some super special project that needs to hide away its gameplay from its audience. Its just a videogame, get over it.
>grasp the basic concept of marketing.
I don't think you know what you're even talking about
You're literally complaining about trailer content not spoiling the entire game. Trailers that have specicially been 1/ an early announcement trailer, 2/ a trailer focusing on eikons, 3/ a trailer focusing on the setting and story.
While we're still 8-10 months away from release.
Meanwhile GoW Ragnarok is 3 weeks away and they've barely shown any gameplay.
This is a terrible argument cause GoW Ragnarok and BOTW 2 already had hype before because their previous games already gained that hype for the sequels
Final Fantasy games also used to gain hype for years because of all the cool and interesting stuff theyd show. Now that FF no longer gets hype, you have to fricking earn it again by showing FRICKING SOMETHING ANYTHING INTERESTING. This shit about MUH SPOILERS is the dumbest shit fricking ever and i know ur 100% a yoshi p FFXIV freak that defends his every move. The series needs to have life pumped back into it and this is not it
Enjoy your spoiler free trailers you shithead but when this series goes under, hey at least you didnt get spoiled huh?
Again, game is 8-10 months away. They still need to get Forspoken, their new IP, out the door first 4 months from now.
What's the point of starting an early hype train for a game that isn't out for nearly a year and exclusive to a system that has a production shortage?
FF VII Remake didn't start showing off its guts until half a year from release.
Are you a fricking marketer or something? Why do you care so much about "hype"? Because it drives sales? Even then, why? Why do you care if a game sells or not.
Because this series is nearly dead and i dont want it to become an MMO franchise. I want this series to have a comeback and make good singleplayer games again
>Because this series is nearly dead
FF XVI is still capable of coasting to millions of sales off the name alone, even with it launching only on PS5.
If it turns out shit, XVII might not be able to do the same, 3 bad mainline games are too much for the series to handle. But Final Fantasy as a brand name is in the same ballpark as World of Warcraft, and it took multiple expansions of a downward spiral before the dam broke.
>FF XVI is still capable of coasting to millions of sales off the name alone, even with it launching only on PS5.
Lay off the copium, grandpa. No one cares about FF in 2022 and PS5's top seller Demon's Souls only has 1.4 million copies sold.
I wonder if XVII will be a mmo.
Doubtful. They have planned out support for XIV for another 10 years and its at its peak now.
I think ff18 is the most probable one to be a mmo if you think how long games take nowadays
FF17 is probably already on pre production
So? Why should I give a shit? It's not my fault if the series died because they made moronic decisions and game designs. IF one day FF and SE ended up becoming Blizz, then so be it. Other companies and series will take its place.
Yeah no shit. It's like a year away or something. Jesus.
>I care that the game isn't showing me anything to be excited about.
So? What's your point? You're not excited, then its your fricking problem. Don't like it, don't buy it.
>I don't think you know what you're even talking about
Ah yes, because a moron that suggests an information blowout at fricking TGS knows what he's talking about, is it.
>You're not excited, then its your fricking problem
>hmm, should the devs show off their game more?
>no, people who want more should just happily buy the game without question
what the frick
>information blowout at fricking TGS
Yes, as SE and other companies have done multiple times in the past.
Do you have any idea of what you're talking about?
>no, people who want more should just happily buy the game without question
Where did I say this or even imply this at all. I even say "Don't like it don't buy it". But anyways, please, keep making shit up. That's how morons like you convinces yourself you have an argument.
>Where did I say this or even imply this at all.
>You're not excited, then its your fricking problem.
You're blaming me for SE for not showing off their own game.
>That's how morons like you convinces yourself
You thought TGS wouldn't be a good place to show off the game despite SE doing it multiple times in the past for previous games.
You have no argument. You have nothing. Nothing but your own blind faith in the game.
>You're blaming me for SE for not showing off their own game.
Because you personally don't like what was shown off.
>Because you personally don't like
I don't like that I barely know how gameplay is actually going to function.
There's gonna be 10 more months to figure it out.
>I don't like that I barely know how gameplay is actually going to function.
>Its Ok when FF7R does it.
>Its Ok when FF7R does it.
7r had shown off its gameplay by now and it separate presentations for it.
FFXV is literally the best selling game in the franchise when comparing release timespans.
https://vocaroo.com/14ZtF14GOi6D
BING BING WAHOOOOOOO
FINAL FANTASY BAD
ZELDA TEAR OF THE ASS GOOD
FF16 is the least ambitious ff in history
Good. At this point I'll happily take safe, formulaic yet competently executed.
it isn't competent though
square enix's current "ambitions" are NFTs and black women protagonists, focusing on good gameplay, kino FFT level political intrigue and good performance are not ambitious, but they are a much better direction.
>boring drab political shit like a generic medieval soap opera and full of phoned in performances somehow good
>good gameplay some bad
also at least frey has a personality
ff16
some politics politics
humans transforming to summons
everything grey and brown
ps5 exclusive, no one even want to buy ps5
i never was so un-excited about ff game. ff in 2000 was ok, in 2010 was ok, psp games was ok, vita games was ok, ff14 is ok. ff16 is. i dunno. every ff14 update looks better and more interesting than this
he melty
you lost barry, yoship has won, this game is already a ludonarrative masterpiece, dmc + matsunu kino on the horizon boys, the dogshit that was XV is but a mere forgotten shadow
Barry won, he's literally in the game, the ff16 combat director follows barry on twitter too.
, I feel Masayoshi Soken is very much at the top of his game with his composition skills (his work on the Shadowbringers OST has blown me away, and his utter devotion to music just astound me, he composes game music because he loves to do it, not because it's 'his job' - I mean, for instance he composed the battle theme for the Seat of Sacrifice trial battle from his hospital bed while battling cancer! - he's thankfully now in remission), but game music design requires a certain skillset seperate from conventional composing - instrumentation is usually just sampled at most or completely synthetic, but modern sound processing technology makes modern game music still vastly superior to the beeps and squeeks of the old 8bit chiptune days.
FFXIV has one of the best soundtracks in the FF series. Music is one of my favourite parts of the FF series (I admit I actually spend more time just listening to FF OSTs than I do actually playing the games!), and FFXIV is right up there with the best Nobuo Uematsu and his contemporaries have done. Of course I'm not a fan of every track, but all in all the quality of the music is exemplary. But that is just my personal opinon.
Soken is overrated by 14 trannies. he does make good tracks don't get me wrong but he's no Uematsu or Shimomura
based and true
the music in the trailer sounds amazing
soken makes bad buttrock or the same generic "angelic" chant riff every time and his production is amateur hour
only when Suzuki arranges a soken composed track does ff14 music even become passable
seriously don't understand the mass delusion about this game being "boring"
coupled with the weirdest complaints I've ever seen, this doesn't feel natural at all
Meet Barry and his copycats.
It's impossible to have organic discussion about anything FF on this board for the past 5 years or so.
I thought Barry died along with FFXV
what a pathetic existence
Some people expected a FF game but all they got was a Japanese version of Witcher 1.
Witcher 3 actually have colors
are these... "people" in the room with us right now?
I automatically assume it's Barry or some ameripoo who immediately arches their fatass back at anything made in Japan.
Complete trash """"people"""".
>FF Thread
>Barry made it or piledrives it
Its like clockwork
The game is literally 8+ months away you sperg ass tards. Maybe even 10.
I don't get why mfs on Ganker want to see every single thing before release. I want to be surprised.
We've seen gameplay, story, characters, environments. We know what the game is going to be like. All I'm really hoping for is some direct feed gameplay of the game being played and I don't need it 10 months from release.
Yoshi-P managed to lose to a gaijin SH2 remake, wow. What did he do to make Japan give zero fricks about the game?
>38k
Atelier tier
>game is good because... de em cee, cookie cutter grimdark medieval world, wordswordswords and politeeks to make myself feel smug about the plot fed to me in unmissable exposition dumps
These trailers are uninspired and colorless in my opinion. Unlike previous titles, this game lacks spectacle and, dare I say, it lacks fantasy. It lacks the dreamlike vibe we often associate with the series.
It's not about wanting to get spoilers from trailers, it's about presentation.
So far, all we know is that there will be politics and a DMC tier combat system.
Previous FF titles would tease a romance, the interesting locations, the relations between possible party members... but this game doesn't even have party members. Are they fricking out of their minds? I don't think you can have a mainline FF game without a party at all. That's absurd
>this game lacks spectacle and, dare I say, it lacks fantasy
another dumb frog poster
Yeah, I guess Western Europe from 6 centuries ago has enough of that fantasy vibe to satisfy SEA monkeys and amerimutts.
>it's not spectacle and fantasy unless I like the setting
kek pathetic sort
show me what spectacle means to you and why the last trailer has none of it
ramuh picking up noctis and smiting shit is more spectacle than anything 16 showed
even garuda picking up clive doesn't have the spectacle and sheer awe of sewing ramuh in xv
I don't play XV but I can frick Garuda in XVI.
>muh politics bad
7 is literally anti-capitalism and pro-environmentalism.
>anti-capitalism and pro-environmentalism
While FF16 is anti-genericevilempire and pro-beastmanrights, I guess? Wait, isn't that basically every isekai plot?
FFXVI is probably anti-religion (Crystal must be destroyed), but we should wait until the game comes out to know.
Pretty sure waloed and dhalmek are full of beastmen
>7 is literally
an anime movie with an opening that has political motivations, then progresses into a story about life, death and mental illness.
It is not a story about politics.
Anime movie can be about politics too and FFVII is literally about environmentalism.
>Anime movie can be about politics too
but VII is not focused around it.
>FFVII is literally about environmentalism.
Only if you never played past the fall of the plate.
>the literal villains are a corporation who harvest the planet's life planet, then a genocidal alien who wants to destroy the Earth to restore nature
OK bro.
>the literal villains
for only the first section of the game like I said.
>then a genocidal alien
You mean sephiroth who wants to become a god.
>tries to kill Shinra itself
You mean sephiroth after he used the black materia and the weapons went on a rampage, going after whoever was in their way.
>You NEVER played FFVII
ironic
What is the goal of Sephiroth?
Merge with the planet and become a god.
You did play FF7 right?
To do what?
What is his goal after becoming a god?
What is his motive behind wanting to become a god?
>needs to be told about a game he was just arguing about
Why did you even enter this discussion? Play the game, because its clear you haven't.
I know his goal is to restore the environment/the planet, you fricking lying piece of shit.
Sorry, not that anon. Excuse me. What? That's not his goal at all. Motherfricker, he wants to ram a fricking meteor and open a fricking "wound" to suck up all the lifestream and him at the "center". He's not at all interested in restoring the planet. This is why Jenovagays like me, debate to this day who the fricks controlling Seph. Why does he share the same ambition as this alien that wants to suck up the planet's lifeforce and leave.
Maybe I remember wrong, but before him freeing Jenova, that was his goal seeing how he's mad at Shinra for destroying the planet and imprisoning his mother (whom he thought was cetra).
>he's mad at Shinra for destroying the planet
Huh, I genuinely never heard about this. He was angry at Shinra because they hid her from him. He always had a complex where he feels he is superior to others. Because he kept winning wars and killing people all by himself (before CC cucked this). Once he knew Shinra was hiding her mother, who he thought was the super special, ancient, Cetra, that superiority complex of his got worse.
>the planet literally wakes up and tries to kill Shinra itself
>ending is about the planet recovering moreso than people surviving
You NEVER played FFVII
>Sephiroth gets brushed aside and no one cares Cloud defeated him
>meanwhile everyone cheers when Midgar is destroyed and nature flourishes around it again
gee I wonder what the message was there
>meanwhile everyone cheers when Midgar is destroyed
The actual ending was ambiguous as to if anyone even survived holy/meteor event. Why do you make things up?
>muh ambiguity
the impact only affects Midgar
you can see Cosmo Canyon is fine and even Kalm has people looking out the windows and being fine
the main party is completely safe on the airship far away from any danger
>the impact only affects Midgar
But holy was said to wipe out all threats to the planet. Its theorised in game that humans could be one.
>you can see Cosmo Canyon is fine and even Kalm has people looking out the windows and being fine
From the meteor, not holy.
sounds like a really environmentalist message to me
Actually barry fricks garuda in xvi
barnabas? are we calling him barry now?
It's his new shitpost protocol, forcefully trying to make a meme of himself being barnabas.
He's just desperate for more ammo.
Oh yeah man lemme just go fond something that take five minutes to kill so I can proc the RNG Summon spawn chance an-
Oh wait, guess I'm getting Shiva instead.
the first time you summoned ramuh in xv is literally a story sequence in chapter 5 where the fight at the niflheim base will only end by summoning ramuh which will 100% show up for everyone
anytime after that you can proc summons which actual feel like fricking gods coming to aid you
and not this ff16 explosion laser everywhere so nothing is impressive
also the first time you summon anything in xv itself was in the demo where again ramuh will 100% be summoned when you return to fight deadeye after obtaining him
>ff16 explosion laser everywhere
sure sounds like spectacle and fantasy friend :^)
no because it has the inverse effect of where everything is trying to be bombastic that nothing stands out or has any impact
all that summon shit in 16 feels samey and not special that we're seeing it
in xv seeing a summon feels like an event
you're out beating up crabs doing daily life shit then god shows up and obliterates them
that has impact because of the juxtaposition and contrast
in ff16 seeing summons is the norm and all just blends together so nothing feels impactful when seeing them
gee sounds like the game just has too many spectacles and fantasy for you
maybe you need something more bland like FFXV
no it sounds like they're TRYING to give it spectacle but failing
xv has actual spectacle and color and charm and fun is allowed
16 is just drab and boring and nothing feels impactful
fricking even just hearing Bahamut speak in xv has more gravitas and is more imposing than the piss weak wyvern Bahamut in 16
>16 is just drab and boring and nothing feels impactful
how can it be impactful if the game is not even out yet
>western Europe
I'm seeing water city and sand city.
This is more diverse than that.
its because Yoshi piss thinks le politics is what the audience wants when people want to escape in a fantasy like world. He doesnt understand the magic that games like 7,9 or 10 had and it shows. Even FFXV captured that magic, it was just sadly a shit game but had that slight magic the older games had
I want politics in my game.
I want different factions.
I want different viewpoints.
There's a reason everyone gravitate towards Tactics Ogre and FFT when it comes to big brain shit.
>when it comes to big brain shit.
*pretentious shit
Cope b***h.
Bye bye.
>too stupid to understand simple power dynamics and political structure
>REEEEE THIS IS TOO PRETENTIOUS!! HOW DARE THEY MAKE THE CHURCH BAD! (They literally didn't)
>simple power dynamics and political structure
Hence why I said it's pretentious shit. Thanks for agreeing with what I said.
The frick? How is that pretentious? If you want pretentious, look no further than Persona 5.
>big brain shit
>look, there is a country that fights with swords
>look, there is a country that rides horses
>look, there is a country that drinks ale
>look, there is a country that is more dehydrated than the others
And this is bad, because?
How dare each country has its strength and weakness, am I right?
>posts smug anime e-girls
>is braindead
every time
Genshin has better worldbuilding than FF16, seethe, cry, dilate.
No, it literally doesn't.
Try harder.
Massive squarecuck cope detected.
Please explain Genshit world building without being cringe.
Oh shit.
oh you're a girl playing that feminine game
at least we know to ignore your woman takes from now on
>7 starts off with nothing but politics until muh Sephiroth steals the show
>purposefully avoids mentioning 8 because it revolves entirely around politics
>9 is literally politics between 3 kingdoms
>10 has politics and religion as its main focus
why can't you people at least be genuine lmao
>7 starts off with nothing but politics
7 was an anime movie with a political reasoning behind the action.
Not politics first as the seller.
No shit those games have politics moron. Every part of our life is technically political, but its the fact that FFXVI decided to mainly focus on politics between kingdoms as the main selling point
>7 has politics
Not as the main focus and midgar was a small fraction of the game too. Muh pollution and greed for a small part of the game is different than FFXVI advertising itself as some deep GoT shit
>didnt mention 8
cause its shit
>9 had conflicts with other kingdoms
yeah and it wasnt the main selling point of 9 and was only half of the game
>10
was an adventure isekai game and again the politics werent the main focus over the fantasy parts
>arbitrarily decides what is and isn't the main focus
the main selling point of XVI is the Eikons and not politics then
get fricked moron
yoshitpiss wants the game of thrones audience
Barry…
This is literally the best looking game that is in development right now.
Why does OP suck so much wieners?
XV action trash
VIIR action trash
XV action trash
Yeah, I'm skipping this one as well.
Take that, Yoshit-piss!
*XIV
Nice bait, Barry.
Don't you have a Forespoken thread you need to shill in?
Don't you have to pretend DMC5 requires more buttons than that?
don't need to
Yes you do
Neither of those control styles look fun. The first is boring and meaningless. The second is awkward, annoying, clumsy, and uncomfortable.
>sandbagging an enemy who never hits back im dmc with sickdark pointless combos takes longer to beat the enemy than regular ass basic attacks in xv where the enemy literally hits him and knockd noct down between hits with a full 5 man party against a week mob grunt
wow so xv has more gameplay as you've proven
Do sand Black folk not have a crystal? Sad!
Beautiful.
This is gonna be the best game series post-IX and revitalize the series.
EVERY GOOD FINAL FANTASY HAVE DIFFERENT KINGDOMS
Their crystal is a literal mountain.
Zodiark Trance
>FFXIV discord raiders are behind the FFXVI dicksucking
jesus frick
As if FFXIVgays play anything other than XIV.
And if they do, they were FF fans before XIV was even released, because those are the players that catch on to every reference made to past FF titles in XIV.
>60 IPs
What a mega popular game.
This, why's no ones spamming which anime girl they want to frick.
Gardua.
>popularity
>good
>ff14 trannies spamming muh sales LE GOOD
That's true when I use it.
>DUDE FFXV IS THE FASTEST SELLING, BEST SELLING GAYME IN BIDYA HISTORY!
Why does anything yoshi p related bring in the ffxiv discord raiders?
i dont use discord i use teamspeak
Are these "discord raiders" in the room with us right now?
because they're the only ones that shill him or anything he's involved in
>we still dont know what the game play is like
We got several short cuts of the gameplay you can already tell what it's going to be like. Go rewatch it and pause and look at the UI.
Final Fantasy has long lost its panache. FF15 was their last chance and they blew it.
FFXVI is bringing it back.
I'm having FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FF Tactics and Tactics Ogre flashbacks.
We are back.
>FFIV, FFV, FFVI,
Sorry those games were fun. No fun is allowed in XVI.
How is XVI no fun allowed?
No color. Characters have no personality. No party members, only clive (who we have barely seen fight. Sounds like no fun, looks like no fun.
Every characters scream with personality tho.
And there's plenty of colors around, the frick are you saying?
>Every characters scream with personality
Describe Jill without saying her role in the story.
Who?
>shown off in first and yesterday's trailer
>doesn't even know who it is
Thanks for proving my point.
>robotically monologuing in british is a lot of personality
lamo
Sorry, not enough "onii-chan" or "senpai" or "Adachi-kun" to you?
Describe Clive's personality without saying what his role in the story is.
Angry and disillusioned.
>clive is...angry and uh
ok. Now would you say he's even close to being as memorable as Jack was based on his trailers?
Clive is Jack without the cringe.
Clive is Jack if Jack didn't show any personality
And I'm not even being a hater, what Clive even said of relevance in 3 trailers?
Jack literally doesn't have ANY personality lmao
He is angry and cringe funny
I can't even say Clive is that angry
He just feels jaded, you know
I know his backstory but not how he is supposed to act like
This is why they need to make Clive compelling
They are using the same sad backstory of Jon Snow from GOT but in GOT you have a whole story going on through Jon's eyes so you understand him
If they just give him the backstory of sad bastard child but don't develop him enough he will fall flat really quick
Not even a bastard. The only reason he isn't the heir is that Joshua awakened to Phoenix instead of him.
You haven't played SoP have you?
I will kill you.
He's a revengeful dude who wants to set the world right?
Describe Noctis' personality without mentioning he's a crown prince
"God, I wish I was fishing right now."
unironically why must every JRPG protagonist be a fishing savant?
every single game has a side plot about fishing
XV noctis acts childish and is friend to all creatures. Former plays into his rushed character arc but it is there.
Clinically depressed and has almost no self worth but acts fairly cheerful, loyal, deathly serious, loves animals and all living things, enjoys some bits of fun when he can get it, desperate to meet everybody's expectations while also having no idea how he can do that all at the same time, very unhealthy self-perception in general, loves peace and quiet but never gets it.
Noctis is actually one of the most layered and nuanced protags FF has had so far.
Sephiroth never gave a shit about the planet's health or Shinra's atrocities. Not in OG, not in CC, not in the Ultimanias. It was always all about him and muh mother. He does rant about humans being lazy and shit before his literal dive into full insanity, but it's only in the context of them supposedly "stealing" his and Jenova's birthright.
Thanks for supporting my explanation. I genuinely never heard about Seph caring about the planet.
He is the most nothing ever
Like a generic mmorpg protag but the problem is how this time he should be a character
Cope.
Like, if you enjoy that then good for you
I don't mind
OK bro, thank you.
So what you're saying is you want animu characters who visually correspond to rote character archetypes so you can immediately tell their "personality" at a glance instead of getting to know them and having their development defy expectations?
>whatabout
It was Russian propaganda bot tier.
>So what you're saying is you want animu characters
No. I said describe their personalities.
>so you can immediately tell their "personality" at a glance
I said describe their personalities because anon said
>Every characters scream with personality
We had 3 trailers so far. It shouldn't be this hard for you.
>loyal, he kept being Joshua's shield and "brother" despite knowing his actual place in the hierarchy (he obviously knows he's not the actual prince, thus bowing to the family's caretaker)
>if he knows Jill is a dominant, then he's actually pretty smart and brave because he joined a band of mercenaries that specializes themselves as dominant hunters that is part of the soldiers that attacked rossaria
>vengeful, he trod this path because he felt he was wronged and his "family" and country destroyed
And this is just from a few lines of dialogue and basic description. Just because you accustomed yourself to watching anime characters over-exaggerate themselves to show their personality, doesn't mean other stoic characters don't have one.
??
Dude you just inferred all this from his backstory that is really generic(I don't have a problem with it)
But saying that not showing a single interaction of your character with npcs is great because you are not "over-exaggerating", really?
That's how people, sane people identifies someone's personality you dumbass. No sane person would describe themselves openly in a regular dialogue, like "umm, i'm totally a hardworking person" unless they're going for an interview or exaggerates their physicality to show off their personality or status. Only homosexuals and social media addicted twats does that.
So true
This is why link and persona guy is are the deepest characters ever, they don't need to talk to express themselves
Peak writing huh
You're not even right about the first part.
That's because you're too autistic to understand social cues. He obviously bowed because he knew he's not on the same footing as Joshua. Just because he's not a bastard, doesn't mean he's not an outsider. He could possibly be another son the archduke "adopted" to have a literal weapon of mass destruction in his arsenal. Remember, he was "suppose" to be the one who has the power. Why is there even a "guarantee" in the first place.
>he kept being Joshua's shield and "brother" despite knowing his actual place in the hierarchy (he obviously knows he's not the actual prince, thus bowing to the family's caretaker)
>without describing his role in the story
You couldn't even get past one word without breaking the rule.
>if he knows
So conjecture
>vengeful
So angry man, see
>Just because you accustomed yourself to watching anime characters over-exaggerate themselves to show their personality,
see
>Conjecture
That's literally how people identifies someone else's personality you bloody idiot. Jesus fricking christ you autistic, social rejected homosexuals. When's the last time you frickers have a conversation with a normal human being? Do you morons actually introduce yourself to someone who you wants to know like you would an interview?
>That's literally how people identifies someone else's personality
Based on things that happened.
You (or the person you're defending) are guessing about something that hasn't been confirmed.
That's conjecture. Don't use words you don't understand.
>When's the last time you frickers have a conversation with a normal human being? Do you morons actually introduce yourself to someone who you wants to know like you would an interview?
look in the mirror and ask yourself this.
no
kino
I WANT GARUDA ON THE BED RIGHT NOW
>angry lesbians and girly dudes
Are they trying to make Naughty Dog bait?
More than half of the posts in this topic is either Barry or the equally moronic schizo shill who keeps shouting Barry at the people complaining about the game.
The game looks good but the fact we are on the third trailer and we didn't see any hint of a personality on Clive is dangerous
It was all politics and war
Not a single interaction between characters
Will it become ff12 that everyone praises the world but all characters are just forgotten?
I think that's fine. The game itself should speak for Clive, instead of trailers spoiling it.
I agree
It is just because that pattern isn't new for that team
Focusing too much on the bigger world perspective can make them frick up the small and mundane interactions that are what actually makes a game
It's copying a twitter trannoid post.
???
This quote is twitter trannoid:
It is not, are you insane
This take isn't even strange
I have found the exact quote on twitter screencap put on Ganker.
But OK Barry.
You should stop being terminally online and thinking every person is the same or that opinions can't be similar, dude
But if you want to think I'm some strawman, go on
Soon you will realize that this mediocre project is Yoshi-P stroking his dick to create a pretentious interactive motion picture.
I just find it funny that SE made a little boy in a dress one of the main characters
For the first 3 hours maybe until you get a cliche CASTLE IS UNDER ATTACK which the first trailer had already spoilered.
It's more to me just how things have now changed to having a little boy in a dress is okay while having a girl in a dress is not allowed in this clown world.
>Sorry, not enough "onii-chan" or "senpai" or "Adachi-kun" to you?
I'm sure the story and world will be nice, but that combat just turns me off completely.
Don't worry they will release FFXVI cloud version in 2024 for the switch.
I can't get over that this fricker is called Clive. Imagine the next dissidia that will never happen
FFXIV and XVI are what happens if you gave M Night Shaymalan a directing/producing role in video games.
More like giving YoshiP or Matsuno free rein.
But OK, Barry, keep malding now that Matsuno-games are coming back with Triangle Strategy and TO Reborn.
>Matsuno
The most overrated bugman ever.
Holy fricking schizophrenic thread
I missed this after the quiet past few weeks
The game seems good
People are just talking about problems they have at the moment
Just because there isn't a universal praise going on you start getting mad, chill
You are the one getting mad when people call out your shitposting tho.
"No, you"
Sure, whatever you want to believe
>FFXIV
>FFXVI
>Triangle Strategy
>Octopath 2
>TO Reborn
YoshiP, Matsuno and Asano are saving SE.
why are you Black folk acting as if the game is about to release in 1 month
they still have until summer 2023 for marketing
these 3 trailers are great already, highlight the graphics, boss fights, classic medieval fantasy setting (much more welcome over the stupid soulless empty grasslands and gas stations of XV), and giving you an idea of the action combat
reminder yoshi p rightfully shits on XV, acknowledges its faults and knows he has to do right by fans to not make the same mistakes
>why are you Black folk acting as if the game is about to release in 1 month
When yoshi-p comes out and says
https://screenrant.com/ff16-producer-wont-show-game-until-release-close/
but then walks that back, its not the best sign.
>highlight the graphics
you mean the graphics that got criticized for being cheap?
>but then walks that back, its not the best sign.
how is this alarming at any rate you disingenuous homosexual
production has gone smoothly they've reported they're focusing on bugs and just testing now
what kind of fricking red flag are you picking up that nobody else is huh?
who is criticizing XVI graphics?
how does it look cheap?
>production has gone smoothly
8 years of development and having to switch engines is not smoothly.
>who is criticizing XVI graphics?
Now you're just being willfully ignorant.
when will you naysayers stop being Black folk and do a little reading beforehand
you are not just a clown you are the entire circus
>do a little reading beforehand
that's cool but I wasn't referring to that.
Its going to be 8 years in development by the time its finished and has already switched engines.
The only difference between this and XV is that xv was properly announced earlier.
yes we can't wait to hear all about the development hell behind the scenes when we figure out they remade the entire game from scratch in the middle of production and wasted resources for a decade like they did for XV
they already cancelled the ps4 version of ff16
that's actually a good thing
Because yoshi killed his mom and raped his dog. I mean it's understandable to dislike him to a certain degree but somehow Barry just takes it to another fricking level like he's a fricking Heinrich Schliemann or something.
Sorry this is for
You do understand that there's a marked difference between a game being in pre-procution and one being in production?
Both are "in development" but that way you can literally have just 4-6 people planned to be lead devs having weekly meetups for 3-4 years before the actual team gets assembled and count that as "being in development".
>You do understand that there's a marked difference between a game being in pre-procution and one being in production?
Like I said, the only difference between XV and XVI was XV was announced properly earlier.
>XV was announced properly earlier
a great deal of good that has done for the industry why don't you add
square enix especially, being moronic and announcing games way too early, which yoshi is now breaking the practice of because its absolutely stupid to do so for any game
it should be commonplace in the industry to only announce a game close to release, not years ahead of time
>which yoshi is now breaking the practice
3 years between announcement and release is not breaking the practice.
its a better start over XV
>mistranslations
>10/11/12 damaged the brand
yea ok buddy
i think you have reading comprehension issues
he clearly stated he knows XV has given a bad impression for the franchise on many gamers
he didn't say that
see
stop clinging to mistranslations
that says nothing to counter what you're responding to
wow cool empty nothing grassland ff16!
YoshiP actually said he likes FFXV and that fans supported FFXV too but that some also say without the DLC it's too thin.
Stop falling for mistranslations, he never said anything against FFXV as an opinion or anything about it altering the franchise
>4Gamer:
>Certainly, there have been young people that did not have an FF game released during their Junior High and High School years. (Referring to the longer release windows between games)
>Yoshida:
>If we can't get these people to think "FF is awesome!" we won't be able to spend on the development costs of FF in the future. Looking just at Japan, it's frustrating but true, that Monster Hunter sticks out more than FF. It can't be helped, since the games weren't released during their adolescences.
>The impressions that FFXIV and FFXV made on people is also history that cannot be simply wiped clean. For example, even though FFXIV has been successfully rebuilt, it still went down in flames as a firestorm in online gaming history. Also, while I see it as a good game that was challenging, and there are many people who like FFXV and continue to support it, many point out that FFXV feels out of it's depth when it's just the base game without DLC. If you're in charge of a new entry, you have to accept these as fact.
And in a seperate interview he said people say 10 or 11 or 12 are the worst or anything after 9 is bad so according to you yoship is asking 10 and 11 and 12 damaged the brand
Link to translation?
So
At this point I don't know if I want a gameplay trailer focusing on characters being actual characters or just a zone showcase trailer
I just wish we got a trailer telling an actual narrative and not some weird ADHD clip roulette.
>darkness!
>Phoenix!
>ambition!
>Shiva!
>dominant!
>Empire!
>Joshua!
We're three trailers in and I'm still not sure why (at least according to he trailers) should I be interested in Clive, any of the characters named in the trailers, or even their countries. And I'm saying this as someone who loves political plots and adores FFXII for example despite its many shortcomings.
Agree
This is why at the same time I want a trailer showing Clive walking in the big zones, a trailer in which he actually talks like a normal person with other human beings would sell me more on it
The latest trailer is a lore trailer, detailing the geography and kingdoms in the world.
You must have ADHD if after these 3 trailers and the website entries you can't figure out the plot and setting of XVI.
He didn't talk about not knowing what happens, but why he should care
This is the difference, I actually know a lot of people who enjoy character focused stories and are just spacing out of 16 even now because not even one trailer was really character focused
>character-focused
Brainlet.
Every good stories follow the setting and have the characters be a part of them, not vice versa.
This is why ff12 is the most beloved and remembered of the franchise huh
Yes? Along with FFT.
Do your really believe in this? LoL
Like, it is fine if you like ff12 and tactics the most, but if you think they are the most popular...
Yes, when they talk about high brow fiction.
I don't care how fricking popular it is, if it's good it's good and I don't need the masses to verify it for me
Yeah but the conversation was about the one most remembered, so it was about this topic
I wasn't really talking about which one we consider the best or any other thing
>muh most remembered
Stick to TikTok.
Why are you constantly missdirecting
I think ff12 is good to sleep while playing, but it is fine if you like it
OK bruh, keep sleeping.
He said he doesn't care because it's not interesting not that he doesn't know what they're showing
I feel like the people who are complaining about having no personality here are VIIgays because they're so used with characters spouting dialogues that sound like they came straight from Tommy Wiseau's scripts.
This is weird because FFXVI cast are having more personality than some recent FF cast.
You could say they have more conflict, but personality? At the moment they are the most one line character ever
Can be different in the game tho
Yes, they do.
I struggle to say the personality of XIII or XV cast.
The XV cast has a personality, the problem is how the plot is kinda inexistent so the only way you get any development or interactions is running in the big zones, and 13 cast has a personality, if you like it or not is another problem
I struggle to describe any of them, sorry bud.
It is fine
I think you gays are confusing troupes with personality. Doesn't mean troupes aren't personality, but they're personality on steroids, so to speak. They're commonly used because they're easily identifiable.
Troupes aren't a problem, every story is built around Troupes because every element of plot was probably used before in some way
They only become shit when they turn into cliché, this is why execution is more important than being original
Didn't say its a problem. But to say Clive doesn't have a personality is disingenuous just because you can easily identify the troupes the 4 bros in FFXV has.
Yeah this is true, I think people are commenting about him more because even in the earliest trailers of 15 you could see the party interacting while we are on the third trailer and is just war and one liners
They have, only because those characters are the dime of dozens you would've seen from popular anime shows you could easily tell what kind of personalities they possess.
Not sure if it's a good thing though.
You're fricking moronic
this 4 second gif alone has more personality than all 3 ff16 trailers and info dumps and character bios they've shown
nobody thinks your sissy boyband dressed in black is interesting
barry, why do you hate ffxvi so much? it's not even out yet
he's afraid
the GOT aspect will have normies shilling the frick out of it and his game will be forgotten fast and hard even moreso
like it already has been with 7R and jacks game
Are you fricking moronic?
he literally said it hasn't been smooth only a month ago
so hes just lying in his most recent producers message?
keep up this moronic act
even an IQ at room temp sees through you already and knows you're just reaching to shit on the game in any way possible
homie he literally said that here
on stage at TGS only a month ago
let me repeat it again because maybe you didn't read
so hes just lying in his most recent producers message? that came out like yesterday?
he never said it was going smoothly and straight up said the devs would scold him if he said that
so even if he ever said it the devs would scold him because its not going smoothly
How fricking autistic are you? The way he said that was as an acknowledgement to the hard work of his team and not to make light of crunch.
No it was to say the games development hasn't gone smooth
I can play dmc4se or dmc3se before dmc5 released ergo i have played as vergil and expect to play as him in dmc5
oh he's not playable in dmc5 base game? thats because they want to israelite you forcing yourself to buy more shit just to play as him
have a nice day already sbk91
xv never advertised playable party in any trailer footage you lying moron
versus isnt xv
versus was cancelled
ever since 2012 only noctis was playable in the builds they made while the bros were AI and they focused on that direction when recreating everything from scratch when they moved to luminous
they were all made playable for free you seething frick, literally anyone who launches the game now has them able to be playable by default even without having any dlc
there is no gaping holes you moron
literally all 3 dlc are PARALLEL SIDESTORIES TO SHIT ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE GAME AS NOCTIS
no they weren't retsrd
they only started planning doing a set of dlc around Q2 2016 when they were in the optimisation and debugging phase of the game and so they ADDED sections in the game to frane those dlc around, they didn't cut them out from shit that was already there
in 2015 at tgs they straight up said they had never had any plans for Gilgamesh in the game and that they might consider it after the games done
in 2015 footage prompto is on the train when shiva freezes it meaning him getting pushed off the train to frame his dlc wasn't a thing back then
you're a fricking idiot sbk91 kys
One of these days you're going to have a stroke Barry. And no one will mourn you.
Barry is balls deep in benedikta right now
Nah, he's all the way in here.
>I can play dmc4se or dmc3se
So virgil is a special edition addition and should be expected in the special addition for 5, thanks for proving I'm right.
>forcing yourself to buy more shit just to play as him
sounds familiar.
>xv never advertised playable party
It did.
>versus isnt xv
It just wish it was.
>they were all made playable for free
but only after all their dlc was released
>PARALLEL SIDESTORIES TO SHIT ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE GAME
Ignis specifically happened while noctis was unconscious and wasn't doing anything.
>they only started planning
But brought up DLC as something they were going to do in 2015.
>might consider it after the games done
So DLC.
No vergil was playable before i played dmc5 so they should have made him playable in dmc5 by default bit they didn't because they knew they could israelite people
xv bros are literally FREE you fricking moron and nobody played as them prior to xv releasing because they only debut in an actual game in XVs release
no it wishes it wasn't but contacts meant they had to keep some versus shit in
it is literally all free you dont need any dlc to play as them you moron
ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional and COULDNT do anything so its literally not a fricking hole because he literally tells you he lost his sight as a sacrifice
>going to
no, they were asked questions and just said we'll maybe do stuff like that after the game is out because we have no plans to do that for the game now
they never had any dlc plans prior to q2 2016 when in the debugging phase
operating word being NOT PLANNED you fricking idiot
they hadnt planned any dlc whatsoever and were just answering questions if yhis or that is in the game and they said no but might see if they could do something only after the game is out meaning nothing that was added as dlc post launch was ever planned for base game you stupid frick
kys already sbk91
>ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional
what the frick does this even mean
>No vergil was playable before i played dmc5
In special editions only yes.
>by default
never promised
>xv bros are literally FREE
after they were cut and then sold as dlc
>no it wishes it wasn't but contacts
I don't think contracts had anything to do with the versus xiii references in the ardyn dlc
>ignis specifically happens when noct is unconditional and COULDNT do anything
So not parallel like you just lied about
>he literally tells you he lost his sight as a sacrifice
offscreen with no further explanation, that's a gaping hole
>we have no plans to do that for the game now
oh they did.
So you are projecting any critique on another group
No we just expect there to be identifiable personality traits
clive has no personality
even joshua at least has some semblance of one being a meek weak little boy
>everyone who doesn't suck my shitty game off is le 7 boogeyman
Not making a good case for yourself here.
>I swear this ff number with the most vitriolic ff fandom has nothing to do with this!
14?
14gays full of dicksuckers trannies who are too busy having virtual erps with each other. Meanwhile 7gays are always happy to shit on other mainline titles.
Somehow these ERP trannies have enough time to have a daily FF14 thread on Ganker while shilling another abomination conceived by Hackshida.
You mean your daily seething thread against yoshida, Barry. You're fooling no one here you worthless aborigin rape baby.
So 14?
Like, I know that 7 fanbase is terrible(mostly in the shipper part)
But 14 is pure cringe on the way they act like a cult which you can't criticize anything and the whole worship about yoship like he is Gaben in 2012 for PC master race guys
Many things in FF XIV can be criticized and they get criticized in the XIV threads every single fricking day.
But any time XIV or XVI get brought up in other FF threads (or their own) on Ganker you get Barry and his copycats shitting up the threads with ad hominems and misinformation, and rendering it completely impossible to have any discussion until it's outside Aussie posting hours.
Because these threads are full of insane people
Honestly maybe 15's water was poisoned idk, something happened after it
So when you add Ganker's usual behavior that is being negative about everything and schizos, nightmare scenario
BTW, until Barry arrived I was agreeing with a lit of takes on this thread
How Clive seems bland, but now it is just a shitshow
Clive seems bland because he's literally gotten zero screentime so far.
Which I acknowledge is a mistake marketingwise, but that doesn't allow for value judgements about the actual character in the actual game that is a year away from launch.
Totally agree
It is just weird because we are used to seeing a main character and his party a lot in ff trailers
So on this one we have action combat,not a defined party and a Mc that doesn't appears or talks much
So i really can't blame older ff fans when they feel doubts about this direction
Have we actually heard Clive talk at all? I remember Joshua and Jill, but not Clive.
Honestly
Just generic one liners and some quick flashback with Jill
Almost nothing, it is crazy how he just feels like a mmo self insert character that was put in that world after 3 trailers
>you may only criticise from this approved list of 5 inconsequential things that ff14gay who shill the game endlessly complain about which nobody else cares about see look we totally criticise the game fairly and not with kid gloves!?
This
They have a defined set of things people are allowed to criticize
This shouldn't even be a strange take, everyone who gets in FF14 realizes the cult like performance really fast
>But 14 is pure cringe on the way they act like a cult which you can't criticize anything and the whole worship about yoship like he is Gaben in 2012 for PC master race guys
This is a perfect example
These mfs making posts about yoship like he is a Saint remember me how PC gamers acted in the 7th gen
This is the first FF game in 20 years that may actually merit some attention after the cringe borefest XV and VIIR have been.
>Actual fantasy setting
>Not open world but areas divided by crystals/ eikons instead
>Classic art design instead of zippers and belts and some areas have actual personality
>No Nomrua
Personally i think it should be even more stylized and i would certainly rather have classic combat back but, provided it`s more story driven and has less menial side quests than the latest entries, i `d be willing to compromise enough to give it a fighting chance.
16 is literally cringe borefest
>generic setting
>meaningless statement
>literally full of fuccbois with bad unmemorable outfits and no personality
Why is it only on Ganker do I see folks hating on ffxvi? Like they trying to will it to fail for unknown reasons.
Barry-san-tachi.
Just cynics contrarians and shitposters. Also you and I both know everybody else are marvel enjoying goyslop consumers. We both know their opinions don't mean shit.
>Why is it only on Ganker do I see folks hating on ffxvi?
No one really cares about xvi to give a shit outside of here.
Just shitposters looking for a reason to be angry. Applies to most games on here btw
I see people shitting on it everywhere.
where?
EVERYWHEEEEEERE
why don't you want to say?
somewhere in the endless sea of Barry's schizophrenic thoughts
>muh reddit circlejerk loves it so everyone else must too
Should he be allowed to write the story for FF17?
I wouldn't mind seeing him do a spinoff but he seems a bad fit for the mainline games.
He'd be no worse than Tabata, they have a fetish for killing off characters and labeling them as "Happy Endings"
FFXVI, everyone.
That clip has actual dialogue and narrative weight, though. I assume that XVI does too, but we haven't seen it.
Christ no. He's a one-note meme writer and I'd honestly prefer Nomura to write a FF than modern Taro and I fricking hate Nomura.
It's having the same dialogue and weight as FFXVI.
Where have we seen XVI characters having an uninterrupted 2-minute dialogue scene?
I actually think it's time for a CG trailer.
Waste of time and resources.
the ff14 cg trailers are the only good thing about it
Kek, the 14 cgi trailers are always the weakest. The in-game story trailers and patch trailers are always superior.
>implying any XIV trailer is superior to the ShB CG one
Why are you lying, anon? It's pretty much trailer perfection from both the marketing and artistic standpoint.
the 14 in game shit is legitimately the worst fricking shit ff has ever done
atrocious cutscene direction with literal characters just swivelling then nodding then snapping from 0 to 100 on idle to run pose
ff14 cutscenes literally look like pokemon sword/shield tier terrible
the end of an era cg is better than anything in ff14 itself
FF16's Ambition trailer was perhaps too ambitious. Look at the FF8 trailer, it didn't take much to sell people on cool visuals, interesting combat, romance, drama, and a duel.
FF16 is trying to sell us on a plot, and a world and depth, and characters, and gameplay. By attempting so much it's taking focus away from the strongest parts and any mistakes or failures undermine confidence.
We didn't need to have an explanation of each kingdom, with each ruler shown, and some out of context line of dialogue to explain them. Just have the narrator tell us how there are many kingdoms/civilizations that arise around their respective crystal and their interactions and vying against each other are complex and dangerous. We don't need to see key dramatic moments and turns in the story showing a character dies.
I'm fine with some darker aspects, but the action had so much darkness devastation and squalor that it made the world seem like it has less wonder and interest. It makes me think it's some uninteresting wasteland. It it trying to be Devil May Dark Souls with Final Fantasy 14 stories and magic crystals? Dark Souls may be dark and hopeless but it shows the world had wonder, beauty, grace and dignity that was lost.
The combat gave me the impression of being too flashy. It makes me worry the player doesn't get that much control over it. It makes me think the combat will be too floaty, unrealistic, and focused on show that it won't feel quite as visceral and meaningful. Square Enix may not have the experience of making a DMC like game actually fun.
So TL;DR it's more ambitious than they may be able to pull off.
maybe there's was no need to show us the kingdom, but is it a bad thing?
i think it was cool, some of the cities were really cool
also i think you're gay
The term you're looking for is "focus". VIII marketing clearly knew what it was selling: here's your cool soldier protag, here is your mysterious love interest, here's the beautiful war-torn world, and here's the witch you want to kill. In fact, all mainline FFs until XVI have had no problem really selling the basic premise with laser-sharp focus, except for maybe IX (buy this game to... kidnap the princess?). XVI, on the other hand, seems all over the place.
>The term you're looking for is "focus".
You're right.
>some of the cities were really cool
Yeah, a couple looked cool on the surface. It didn't impress me to the degree that strategy games do when they do the same thing.
>also i think you're gay
You're right.
why are ff threads so schizophrenic?
>yoshiP said this and Nomura said that but if you actually interpret it this way it means a totally different thing so....
>BUT YOSHIP PROMISED THIS! HE BROKE HIS PROMISES, TABATA WOULD NEVER...
shut up
no one fricking cares
where is the schizophrenia
having a hard time deducing shitposters are you're just false flagging now that you have no points left
i don't care about your arguments, i don't care about whos right and whos wrong, stop talking about these homosexual directors
>stop talking about these homosexual directors
???
The marketing isnt great. We have 3 trailers and they show:
>people talking politics (boring for zoomers)
>crazy kaiju fights (to weird for normies)
>dmc style combat (hated by FF boomers)
>very grounded and semi realistic artstyle (hated by the anime gays)
>not a lot of waifus (coomers are disappointed)
At least the graphics gays stopped talking shit after the 2nd trailer.
I personally like the grand scope epic fantasy shit but the combat is very meh and thats all I know. There is no real gameplay, no exploration, no dungeons, no city gameplay, no questing, no leveling, no itemization, no inventory, no party, no talking to npc´s, etc shown, the shit you actually do in rpg games. For all we know this thing can be a FF13 style corridor game. Who knows?
Just show some fricking gameplay outside of battles.
we have until summer 2023 you fricking Black person what you want them to drop the entire game now?
Showing a dude walking around a town or some real levels isnt showing the entire game. Revealing all the characters, nations, plot etc is showing much more than 2 minutes of fricking real gameplay. They already spoiled the pre timeskip shit.
Just answer me this:
Is the game open world, linear or area based?
Not him, but that's actually not much time at all considering we're talking about the very basics. We literally haven't seen ANY RPG gameplay or even normal dialogue scenes so far. The game could be one straight corridor with one hour of scattered 2-minute cutscenes for all we know. I don't think it is, but we have no visual proof it isn't.
Honestly sometimes it just sounds like some people are still on copium and hoping the game will somehow be something it obviously isn't.
FF XVI's gameplay? Here goes, from what I pieced together from the trailers and interviews:
Linear corridors and setpieces alternating with Witcher 2/FF XII style open areas and towns/quest hubs. Classic FF style exploration in those zones, hunt monsters and loot chests/hidden items.
DMC style combat with 3 equippable eikons at a time and interchangeable special ability slots, consumables for hp recovery/damage and stagger boosts. Dog companion who is basically just a cooldown attack/stun/stagger increase, think Atreus in GoW.
No party members though in some fights Dominants will pop up in eikon form as a LB attack, bes case scenario the game has short segments where you control another Dominant with a limited moveset for a short while.
No dialogue options, completely linear.
Name 1 thing wrong with being a pedophile
have a nice day already nomuragay
Nah the game looks cool. Especially after the k pop road trip of the last one.
Cid confirmed to be voiced by Ralph Ineson.
https://twitter.com/ralphineson/likes
I wonder if they showed all those factions because you'll actually get to choose one
I was mad hyped by the trailer, goosebumps and all
sorry you are so dead to the world op?
nice cry thread though, see name √
salesgays will never make sense to me
it doesn't matter if a game is popular if you enjoy it
>but they won't make more
so? that's addict behavior. quit being a b***h
why are you shitting your pants so hard when theres barely much to critique? and still months to go for more info?
are you moronic?
the game isn't even out yet and you're making these threads day and night
really worried about XV huh barry, only you would get your panties in a knot defending that gay boyband
There's 3 fricking trailers and a bunch of character bios and lore shit and its still all bland as frick
are you that buttblasted that yoshitpisses mature ff for mature gamers like yourself is getting mogged posthumosly by boyband game?
>bland as frick
whats bland as frick here is the empty grass areas and gas stations of FFXV
the only mogging your boyband game can ever claim its name to is the disastrous amount of time wasted in dev hell
Nope what's bland is 16s literal nothing empty grassland
fricking hammerhead is more inspired than any fricking location in 16
16 has literally been in dev hell for 7 years
xv was never in dev hell, you're confusing it with nomuras failed versus garbage
>all this image compilation
>only shows 3, THREE "points of interest"
Kek
Barry they literally just showed huge ass crystals and cities as points of interest/setpieces in the trailer.
>being able to see the same landmark from the entire game world means exploration
>NOT that the world is tiny
thanks for showing off the various biomes in XVI i didnt have to post that image myself, how kind of you
oh... something XV didn't have right?
just grass and uhhh maybe 1 big cave for a few minutes?
why can't you just show me where the hate is so i can read it? Ganker hate is so boring. its all waifu/sales/graphicshomosexualry
I wish I could discuss FFXV on this site. But some morone autist had to ruin it forever
Yeah
I think XV shits the bed story-wise but is really good in letting you interact with your party members while you ran across that world
Sad how every discussion is derailed here
I remember seeing a twitter post recently suggesting there's some cool stuff happening on the FFXV modding scene
It's a shame that the guy above me has done more damage to the game's reputation on here than he'll ever understand and it's impossible to talk about such things now
Yes
I think that XV's first open zone even if bad implemented made people love and interact with those characters a lot
And this carries the whole game because you need to care at least a bit about them in order for that end to work
Everything else is a disaster
no such damage occured
nomuragays are just whiny piss babies unable to let go of their fanfic
I liked FFXV
YOU are the one that makes it difficult to talk about, not Versusgays
>YOU are the one that makes it difficult to talk about, not Versusgays
agreed, Barry's actions are making the ENTIRE XV fanbase look bad
No its nomuragays like this homosexual Nathan here
and this homosexual here
I've literally not even posted in that thread yet you seething frick I didn't even know that thread was there until you just linked it just now
Are you calling ff15 schizos nomuragays?
>No its
You. You're the one that ruined all FFXV discussion.
No just ff14troons and seething nomuragays ruined it
everyone confirmed forspoken is kino
>No just ff14troons and seething nomuragays ruined it
Okay then, tell me how I can stop being overleveled
Am I just supposed to wear the nixperience band right from the very start?
your damage output and stats is largely boosted by weapon loadout but yes nyxperience band as early as possible will prevent overlevelling
>Okay then, tell me how I can stop being overleveled
god that reminds me of the time I posted a few webms showing FFXV's final boss being beaten in 5 button presses
after all was said and done apparently none of it counted because I happened to be like 2 levels higher than the "recommended level" for Ardyn (frick me for going out my way to do optional hunts and stuff, right?)
you can't even find out what this "recommended level" is supposed to be from the game itself, I'm pretty sure this was some Prima guide book level shit, lol
Bros
Imagine when forspoken and ff16 releases and Barry have to start acting like forspoken is kino
Such hard fate awaits this child
remember the simple times when final fantasy games were set in, well, fantasy-like settings?
what happened to all that? what is this really lame medieval high realistic crap? i cant even tell ffxv and ffxvi apart
Yeah people transforming into giant monsters on a continent that is slowly dying and the last hospitable regions around frickhuge crystals is medieval high realistic.
the hell are you talking about
FF XVI is the most fantasy the series has been since XII wtf.
Nah my dude
FF13's setting is sick
You may not like the execution of it
But that world is kino
Low fantasy is also fantasy, anon.
That said, it's weird how much XVI seems like T-0 so far except kinda muddled.
>four countries centered on different crystals
>chosen fighters that transform into FF summons in exchange for their apparently rather unvalued lives
>one country is focused on tradition, one is ambitious (which is the empire, obviously), and another is reclusive
>crystals are fricking shit up
And you've also got the Starscourge to make things more fun.
Also it's all in the wake of a highly advanced floating island/spacefaring civ that crashed and burned 1500 years ago.
are fricking shit up
crystals are actually saving people by giving them the only hospitable land left. I know there will be some twist, and im very sure the empire isnt the real bad boy, more like the first half antagonist. They will pull some studio trigger shit twist "actually we are trying to safe you from the aliums(demons/ancients)"
Because it's easier to just copy paste real life
https://twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/655096152954572803/photo/1
is this low fantasy?
is this low fantasy according to Ganker
I dunno but it's low-res alright.
just a heads up, Barry made a another shitposting thread on XVI
Guys the derpland is back