>FF16 was hyped up as a game that would sell rapidly through word of mouth, but that never happened. In fact, Yoshi-P's indirect instruction of 'Hey, all you fans know what to do, right? Spread the word!' was too obvious. By the time it was being scrutinized in various reviews, the path of selling through word of mouth was already closed. This isn't some Chinese earphones on Amazon, so I wish they wouldn't try to be clever. In the first place, it's impossible for someone who was only recognized in the niche community of PC MMOs like FF14 to suddenly deliver results in a AAA title for console gaming.
>FF16 is an average game. There is a sense that it was sold based on the brand, but people still realize it and choose not to buy it. As someone who has been following the Final Fantasy series and has played almost all of the games, I have to admit that this one was honestly tough. Instead of the world expanding as you progress, it felt like it was narrowing down, which was disappointing. The peak of the enjoyment was reached by the end of the demo.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f20059ec84e8729149e19500bfcc63ed31a0c65d/comments
Not even worth a pirate.
>Instead of the world expanding as you progress, it felt like it was narrowing down, which was disappointing.
This.
I thought at the beginning, that the world and the map will be gigantic, as you saw the world map when progressing. Turns out, those points which I thought would be a whole map, are in fact the teleport stones in the smaller map. Never again FF. Never again SE.
Yoshida thought FF16 will be a new Slam Dunk, instead it turned out to be a Chainsaw Man.
QRD on chainsaw man? I watched one episode and dropped it but I remember the hype.
Why do you all revel in this man's professional failure? Is what he did with FF16 so wrong?
>Why do you all revel in this man's professional failure?
Schadenfreude. He was so cocky before FFXVI release, like his remark: 'just buy a PS5'. Then, he would cry that the install base is really small and that FFXVI sold well for a PS5 exclusive. Nevermind, that you can count PS5 exclusives on the fingers of one hand and the closest thing to an AAA game there is a PS3 remakester.
>Then, he would cry that the install base is really small
[citation needed]
what he did to ff14. never trust the moron.
14 is cancer on it's own.
16 is the cancer spreading into singleplayer games even more than it did earlier with 12
Final Fantasy was suppose to be infinitely hard to fuck up. Most people would argue that ATB + interesting stories + 3D models on beautiful hand-drawn backgrounds were where the series peaked.
All they had to do was this over and over again with different systems, characters and stories and they would have printed money forever, but instead they butchered something that's so easy.
>All the would have had to do was make the exact same fucking game ad infinitum and I would spend $70 on it every fucking time
Why do jrpg fans have brainrot this hard?
You buy a franchise for iterations on a base, not different fucking games every time. If you wanted a different game play a different game. I sincerely don't understand what people don't realize about this, I hear it with 5000 different games. Zelda is a good example, the series got "stale or tiring" but it just means you grew out of it. Zelda didn't need to hold your hand to start playing shitty open world games, just like how ff didn't need to hold your hand playing character action games.
>You buy a franchise for iterations on a base, not different fucking games every time
Too bad FF wasn't doing what you were saying since FF2.
>Zelda didn't need to hold your hand to start playing shitty open world games,
It's a kids' game with baby puzzles. Even developers themselves talked about how they wanted hold the players' hands in ToTK interviews.
You missed my points anon.
Firstly, FF still had foundations on what it wanted to be. Slight adjustments to the formula doesn't constitute grand gameplay genre shifts, priorities, etc. FF2 was still turn based, still had the tone of the series, still had a basis on what 1 brought up, shares many mechanics and designs and etc. FF16 and Yoshida went out of their way to say things like "people only want action games nowadays" and etc, an intentional design to try and be different for no reason using a franchise that A.) Didn't deserve it and B.) Benefits very little from that direction.
Also the second point is just irrelevant, I wasn't talking about difficulty. I was talking about how games like botw/totk were essentially introductions to open world using a franchise to make it more profitable, instead of just iterating on the series they failed to iterate on since OoT/MM. The point was that nobody needed the FF name to expect an action game from Square Enix. Especially one that tries yo be pointlessly melodramatic and tries to cut its ties so heavily from its origins. At that point it just feels like it suffered heavily from being tied down to the franchise to begin with, OR it only did as well as it did and got the benefit of the doubt solely through name recognition. Neither are beneficial to making something good.
>still had the tone of the series
Explain how going from
>We want to save the princess from evil skeleton
to
>War... War never changes
are related in any shape or form?
Because minor changes in plot and setting doesn't change the structure or design of everything else you dumb ass. The game is still colorful, its the same game that thought cute lil birds would make for great horses, and you get vored. Narrative shit doesn't affect the overall impression of the game, you can be reductionist about any game like you were with FF1.
FF should always have run parallel to DQ with just slight mechanical changes and sweeping setting changes.
>saying this after II, X, XII, XIII, XIV 1.0, XV, and some mediocre spin offs like dirge
Hi barry/wowjanny. Always the yoshi obsession, huh?
I still, to this day, think 2 is pretty good.
>Why do you all revel
>all
bro stop replying to yourself
>Is what he did with FF16 so wrong?
Yes.
>Why do you all revel in this man's professional failure?
Because I will never ever, approve of or respect Final Fantasy going from turnbased RPGs to MMOs and action games. And he contributed to that.
And I will shit on any dev and game in the franchise that does. As I have done before and will continue to do.
And when they fail I absolutely see that as a good thing worthy of celebrating and will revel in it.
I think after all this time I got to the conclusion that bitter ex-FFXIV failed players just hate this man like you wouldn't believe.
Because FF14 fags are obnoxious and have been worshipping this hack for over a decade now, and Yoshitpiss tried to talk shit about other FF's only for FF16 to literally have the worst sales in the franchise
Everything. Ff16 is a huge failure.
Dudes a snoygger and ruined the franchise by making it a playstation thing. FF peaked with 6
6 isn’t even top 5 FF games, stupid gay
Lmao and if ff6 was on ps1 you would say its shit
FFVI had a PS1 release
>tendies still seething at ff 25 years later
>Dudes a snoygger and ruined the franchise by making it a playstation thing
Yoshi wasn't even involved with FF up until very recently compared to the franchise's history.
Anon he didnt said veteran
>shit talks turn based games and how they are no longer what Final Fantasy is about
>makes a shitty action game
>sells like shit
Maybe Final Fantasy should return to it's roots rather then let washup hacks ruin it even more.
The problem is that Square is so fucking artistically compromised at this point that they earnestly think butchering FFVII in 3 parts is actually "returning to their roots". They should unironically put the Octopath team on future FF titles and let the rest of these overpaid fucktards make new IPs to fail.
Octopath team should be in charge of future main lines.
Nomura should be in charge of the spinoff games, but still be a designer for the occasional mainline party design
It's literally that simple.
Sure, but then you also spent years insulting Nomura, the problem is doomers have short memory, they even defend ff7r now since another game triggers them more
And instead of crying over and over buy ot and other jrpgs more
I haven't even insulted Nomura once, I enjoy his work purely because he's exactly what spinoff titles need.
Someone who's willing to experiment and try new things for each game he puts out, that's exactly the type of thing you want from the FF spinoffs. New ideas brought to the table and new gameplay styles.
>Octopath team should be in charge of future main lines.
The Octopath game are fucking awful and I'm tired of people pretending that they're not.
I can't get into em either
Triangle Strategy was okay dunno if that was the same guys or just the same artstyle
Not enough gay incest.
I enjoy watching final fantasy fail yes.
Too bad ff won't die, tendie
>tendie
PC actually. FF hasnt been good since it went double digits
Sure, tendie. Pcfags don't get this obsessed. See you shitposting ff7 rebirth and FF9R
you ff schizos are too much man. I just said ff as a series was good in the single digits, why would I shitpost a remake of 9(see: a good game)
Sure, bet ff9r will get shitposted too like ff7r and ff16.
it's payback for ff chuds shitting up the board for months
Kek for you shitting up the boards mean have threads of a game you dislike, like with Tales or Kiseki threads
This. Abib even removed some dragon dogma 2 threads, tendies are going to doompost dd2 next
You gays are too sensitive. Just report to your nintendo mods like you do with other threads
>lies to try and sell ps5s
>paces an action game like his mmorpg
>mediocre action gameplay meaning you are either watching a poorly paced movie or doing the video game equivalent of being stuck in rush hour traffic
>shit gameplay to story ratio
>lots of world building for a world you don't actually explore. Even fucking X's hallway zones at least let you see the world itself through tidus' eyes
>lore locked behind shit mmorpg side quests
It's like ik unironically playing a kiseki game without the benefits that series brings, and that series has been completely washed up since fucking CS2
>LOOK
>MOM
>I
>MADE
>THE
>SAME
>THREAD
>FOR
>THE
>98th
>TIME
>AGAIN
>XDDD
Holy autism, batman
>The peak of the enjoyment was reached by the end of the demo.
This is unironically true and I will never stop being mad about it. The demo feels like it came from a completely different, much better game. XVI lures you in with something that seems like a JRPG Witcher 3 only to deliver Drakengard 2 instead.
but all the better parts of XVI come after the demo
>Expecting /vintendo/ to know shit about the game they are shitting on
>b-but muh flashy and kewl Eikon explosions
You have to be 18 or older to post here.
Unironically filtered.
Schizo thread
Yoshichud cope
Yoshida really thought making boring on-rails Western movie slop wasgoing to net him millions, lmao.
They should've hired western writers for that.
>another uneffective xvi hate thread
Anyway. Great game. Not even Elden Ring cause this much of a seethe
>Not even Elden Ring cause this much of a seethe
Nope, that's Starfield
Starfield caused as much seethe as Forspoken
And with seethe I mean laughter
>uneffective
Good morning sirs
cmon bro, they are next beside each other
not gonna actually try in a barrythread
tbf the whole FF brand has an identity crisis since the 13th installment, SE and pretty much yoship don't realize that chasing outdated gay trends will never pay out
>tbf the whole FF brand has an identity crisis since the 13th installment
Entire identity of FF is not having an identity anon. Every subsequent game is massively different from what came before. This was true since FF2.
Looks like FF's identity has expanded to not having customers, too.
>3M in 6 days (FFXVI)
>Flop
>3M in 2 weeks (RE4 remake)
>Success
LOL.
>XVI budget higher than Re4R
LMAO
Sony money already paid for development costs.
>Legs
Nintendo shillspeak.
>Sony money already paid for development costs.
Exclusivity money was around 100M$ + marketing. Square fucked over Sony with that deal in fact since they were the ones who gained much more from that deal. Nintendo paid 80M$ for MonHun Rise for example, which was also a great deal for Capcom.
>Exclusivity money was around 100M$ + marketing
And now you will link to no source and expect me to just take your word for it, right?
I love this part!
>And now you will link to no source and expect me to just take your word for it, right?
How many non PS first party games gets their own exclusive State of Plays?
?si=PhSU7C_PnwiOxoRM
So no source then, brilliant. Maybe if you cross your fingers and wish that Sony paid for it really hard then it'll magically come true?
I personally greatly look forward to watching you and the other 2 people on Earth that actually defend this game try.
I guess Sony also paid for Forspoken and it wasn't a total flop, too.
>Nintendo shillspeak.
Holy shit you're insane. What's your damage?
Because it's a term popularized by Nintendo shills. Video games don't have legs, they aren't humanoid.
...You do realize it's a common business term that has been used in multiple industries for decades, right?
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-mar-09-fi-legs9-story.html
Entertainment media's been using the term "legging out" for years to talk about movies that are successful well after the launch window. Nintendo has nothing to do with it.
>XVI budget
post it
https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2023/02/28/final-fantasy-16-designers-discuss-why-the-series-hasnt-been-turn-based-for-a
>Yoshida: "When creating FFXVI, you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV.
>So, again, creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game. And so to recoup that development cost, you need as many people playing your game as possible.
>-50% sales reduction compared to FFXV
>not even PS5 bundles and massive marketing campaign from Sony made people buy FFXVI
Cope all you want. RE games have legs, so first week sales aren't that important. Now consider that FFXVI distribution had fallen off both digitally and physically.
Dead game. Dead franchise.
You mean since 12 when it ripped off Star Wars.
Since FF1 when they ripped off DND and Wizardry and Ultima.
>rely on word of mouth
>word of mouth says the game is mid and barely Final Fantasy
LOVING EVERY LAUGH
Every day another thread. Can you just shut the fuck up and move on?
There are 100million copys of rpgmaker games which mimic ur stupid 4 bros in a row turnbased experience. Just play one of those 1 million games
>just don't criticize!
I can smell your left-leaning retardation through the screen.
Seethe
>Yoshi-P's indirect instruction of 'Hey, all you fans know what to do, right? Spread the word!' was too obvious
Wait, does it mean that 'billions of FFXIV players who are totally Yoshi-P stans and will do anything he asks' don't exist? Lmao.
You mean the 30 million registered users worldwide that are totally a relevant metric for anything?
Maybe they just don't have a PS5 🙁
Watching FF16fags try to copy FF7Rfags' smuggery, only to have it blow up in their faces, has been a hilarious gift.
Remember the month leading up to release? How we'd have 10 threads active at any 1 point proclaiming 20m sales?
And then exactly 1 week after the game released we had constant "comfy" threads that barely had 50 IPs in them.
What really strikes me as funny is the timing. It started exactly one month before the game's release and the "comfy" threads lasted exactly 1 week after the game's release.
And they say shills aren't real.
>Remember the month leading up to release? How we'd have 10 threads active at any 1 point proclaiming 20m sales?
And then both Ganker and journalists afterwards entered a mad scramble to pretend that 3 million after a month was some absolutely unbelievable sales milestone, with the qualifier being "w-w-well that's impressive for a PS5 exclusive, y-you guys". People expect us to believe that the PS5's install base is like the WiiU's, after so much bragging about it constantly being out of stock and initially smashing console sales records. just how fucking severe is the PS5's "ghost city" problem with software sales, when people in Sony's corner would rather try to undermine its hardware sales to paint the PS5 as an underdog?
>v/ and journalists afterwards entered a mad scramble to pretend that 3 million after a month was some absolutely unbelievable sales milestone
Oh fuck you're right. That little arc is coming back to me now. It was wild, to the point where people were editing Wikipedia to downplay XV's sales numbers. That was a wild cope.
I have no idea why people buy a PS5 though, but it's clearly not for XVI.
When I saw them using the same "are you poor?" tactic as Diablo IV shills I knew that the game was going to be shit.
I kept asking them over and over to post gameplay webms, I still haven't gotten a single one from them, all I have are the ones taken from streamers who played the game early.
>that webm
I physically don't understand who finds this fun.
That's the reason why shills never posted gameplay webms, the game is generic as fuck and the only progression you make is going from spamming regular attacks to spamming special attacks against enemies who can barely defend themselves, just like in forspoken it feels like you're just bullying random animals.
For weeks it was:
>dude stop posting these webms, that's just the tutorial, the game is actually great
>can you post good webms or videos of the game then?
>*crickets*
Even the small monsters in MH put up more of a fight in the early game.
I think what kinda baffles me is how spongey every enemy looks. I'm sure it's cherry picked for the webm and I haven't played it, but it looks bad.
Because they are spongey. Retards completely failed to implement the stagger system properly.
After having just binged SoP, that gameplay looks fucking anemic.
>enjoying video games
>shill
no wonder this place is infested with trannies from discord
I don't care for the game, but the combat's fine to play around with. It has a couple of issues, but one is that it being DMC-lite makes it worse for both people who aren't going to sink their teeth into the combat and people who are. The reason it would be less appealing for people who do play around with it and actually try to engage with it is obvious, there's just less to do compared to DMC and a lot of what you can do are cinematic moves tied to cooldowns, but it's worse for people who aren't going to engage with it on that level because the result is something like that webm. You could play DMC like that as well, but few will because you have so many tools available to you and it encourages you further with the Style meter to mix things up. XVI has fewer tools and the bonuses based on how you play feel superfluous compared to Style in DMC, you're not even ranked unless you replay.
I do think if you're using Torgal and your Eikonic Feats as well as using skills for something more than just throwing them out whenever they're available, the combat can be fun to mess around with, there's plenty of options to combo enemies with and it's enjoyable in a way you'd want a game like DMC to be, I found. The game just does a really bad job at making people want to meet the game halfway and actually learn to play it. Most footage I see of the game has people not even using Torgal, which is like playing DMC and not knowing you can get different move if you change the direction you're holding, he's one of the most basic combo tools in the game. They should have had more weapons or at least delay combos because those are easy to enjoy even if you know nothing about how to play the game. If someone's just mashing in DMC they'll still be switching weapons and accidentally doing delay combos and shit, in XVI you're just going to get this square, square, square combo for the most part.
More than being dmc like its stagger system that sysyem is never good or enouable until you find the metashit
Yeah, the stagger system is shit even if you're actually engaging with the game's systems. I think it might have been fine if you could launch enemies during it because in a game like that they give you a lot of tools to do combos and shit, so it would make sense to give bosses a state that lets you do some big combo you practiced, but that you can't even launch them and that it encourages you to start with multi-hit attacks and then high damage attacks ruins it
People were posting gameplay the month the game came out. Problem is these threads are cesspool and people who did enjoy the game or the combat aren’t gonna talk about it here. The absolute state of Ganker where game discussion is driven off by the need to Shitpost every new game to death.
This. Also being ps5 only affected it
You are going to see these same haters doomposting a turn based FF9R
>16 is just atb
Why are boomers so mad about this?
Even the FF7 mobile game threads get more actual game discussion than FF16 threads
Ff16 got discussions too but haters were too obsessed
Actually those same haters are trying to shut down ff7 gacha thread
Cause that gacha is dogshit and shitting deeper in ff7
That's because you literally cannot discuss 16 on this site without people bringing up the boogey man Barry, or posting about how the sales are bad, or that it's a PS5 exclusive and shouldn't have been etc etc etc. Doesn't matter if you try to talk about the game, you'll be drown out by meta fags talking about things not-game-related.
>boogeyman
Yeah man the same fag that's been plaguing multiple game series on here for years and is obsessed with yoshi P while rehashing the same old posts is totally fake.
It will never stop being funny
can we just skip to the part where the twotterguy posts the "i stumbled across it" pic and that guy who isn't barry spends the rest of the thread debunking it?
Bonus points for speedrunning the dead genre part to piss off the other schizo
>dead genre
you idiots keep saying this but bg3 is the one of the best selling games this year.
pixel remasters and hd2d games are incredible games that made millions while remaining low budget
ever crisis just released and already outsolf xvi
i can not wait to see your cope when super mario rpg remake sells as well as wonder with potential to outsell it based on the hype im seeing
SMR is going to cause suicides at Square. A game that must cost a tenth of XVI and will still outsell it. Hilarious.
Ever Crisis hasn't outsold anything because it's literally free to play. I wouldn't be surprised if it ultimately makes more money than XVI, though.
>Mario RPG
>the series where less turn based == more sales
Lol
>Mario RPG outselling Mario Wonder
Lmao even
fuck you stupid ass
you will see soon enough but i wont get to see your cope because you will run and hide
Looking at the paper mario sales numbers without accounting for context makes you look like an absolute retard, which is fitting I suppose
The context is that their lifetime sales are shit even with Mario stapled to it lmao
>bg3 is the one of the best selling games this year.
BG3 (CRPG) is a completely different genre from JRPGs.
You might as well say Skyrim/Starfield are popular therefore JRPGs should be popular as well.
>Refundfield
LOL.
> Kneel
Anon don't laugh.... Shitfield dropped to 84 just a few moments ago...
Jesus crist what when so wrong?
Everything.
She's too strong
BTFO
>All the people who got it for free on the microshekel goymerpass.
Can't wait for a few years down the line when we discover the goymerpass, like all the streaming networks, is wildly unprofitable and microshekel are just cooking the books hoping it will somehow inexplicably start printing money.
New Vegas gods we won
>BG3 (CRPG) is a completely different genre from JRPGs.
JRPG isn't a real genre. And RPG from Japan isn't a genre either.
But yes BG3 is a different genre from Final Fantasy. But it is turnbased.
If FF16 took the steps to actually be a turnbased Final Fantasy CRPG I would actually be able to respect it. Unlike Final Fantasy becoming MMOs and action games.
>JRPG isn't a real genre
Yoshi was right about people using jrpg as a slur lmao
It isn't a real genre and people have never been able to agree upon what the fuck it's supposed to actually mean. At best they've been able to make vague gestures towards turnbased RPGs with random encounters. But that doesn't hold up. And it would also mean that archetypical RPGs in the west from the RPG genre's infancy such as Wizardry were also "JRPGs". Nor would it make sense to call things like Wordsworth or Elin WRPGs or whatever.
These were terms coined by western game reviewers, but it's not as if they actually had any coherent definition in mind when doing so.
It also doesn't make much sense fundamentally. Because "RPG" is a mechanical descriptor, but the "J" is not. And yet putting the "J" next to the "RPG" would imply that there is a mechanical difference between an RPG and a JRPG. And not just denoting its country of origin. But then again, you appear to be under the impression that it actually has a real definition and that it means more than that. I don't know why you think that though.
>JRPG isn't a real genre
Listen I don't give one iota of a fuck if Yoshi-P thinks the term JRPG is akin to slander. They've been called JRPGs for 25+ fucking years at this point, and are distinctly different from standard RPGs, CRPGs, WRPGs, etc etc.
You are clinically retarded if you think FF16 didn't sell well because it wasn't turn based, or that FF16 would have sold gangbuster if it was turn based.
>You are clinically retarded if you think FF16 didn't sell well because it wasn't turn based, or that FF16 would have sold gangbuster if it was turn based.
Not him but it's true. Turn based is normalfag genre.
No, it's not. Two outliers that are popular (BG3, P5) are in spite of being turn based, not because of
Pokemon too huh?
Pokemon is for groomers and little kids, also monster collector
Say, why did Persona 5 sell more than SMT5?
Word of mouth and releasing multiplatform with different versions
And when it was ps4 only?
>word of mouth
So how come you didn't do the same for smt5?
And ff16 is ps5 exclusive yet apparently you don't count that
Yes.
Sells well, must be good
Pokemon GO proves that people will play that shit even if it has no combat.
>No, it's not
Yes, and a lot of those sales are from people like me that buy every version of every game that is available. Pic related (albeit almost a year old at this point). I also have the entire PR collection Switch and PS5 as well.
Ok whale gay but FF outsold even normie friendly action games such as Zelda.
>JRPG isn't a real genre.
I wonder if he would take this statement back if he could.
Post it
Wait that's it? This must be from the wow and the witcher, da and me popularity and jrpg games having a hard time during ps3 or being considered too weeb.
He even seems relieved that jrpg has a better acceptation now
Amazing how manipulative Ganker is kek
>He even seems relieved that jrpg has a better acceptation now
Yeah, thank God you're not trying to slant a controversial view in a direction you find more agreeable, huh?
I'm not so empty in life I need controversy every 5 minutes
No I'm sure you clicked on this thread to talk about the video game.
Yeah its pretty much talking about the sentiment that cropped up among review rags before Dragon Age and Mass Effect shit the bed that JRPGs were too outdated for modern gamers
That's what I understand too. Keep in mind FF was stuck in FF13 hell and the other jrpgs were Neptunias, Ateliers, Tales of, too japanese for journos
Where is the insult? It's true there was some dark age when Jrpg games were considered worse by journalists
Dissapointing.
I thought that little apeman was based for shitting on jrpgs. I'm just going to keep saying he said, "jrpgs is a slur" though. It's more fun than way.
Where is he shitting on jrpgs?
That has fuckall to do with him. Whatever the fuck "JRPG" is has been debated since fucking forever.
But now you think everyone who says the term is bullshit is some yoship shitter?
Considering nobody ever makes this argument in regards to J-Drama or J-Music yeah you're probably just a dumbass drone copying Yoshi-P's words.
But people do make those arguments for that stuff too.
Jpop is literally just pop music from Japan. It's not a defined musical genre. Fuck. Pop itself isn't and changes over time with what's Pop(ular). It's why it's an entirely trends driven descriptor that's inherently amorphous.
I don't think it's racist. Fuck.
I have played JRPGs my entire life, starting with FF4, and I've never heard a single person alive ever even try to argue that "JRPG" is a racist term before this mong came along and claimed it to be so.
In english language discussions sure
Nips just called it all RPGs
sorry, the archive is down and it took me a few minutes to stumble across it.
>I stumbled across it
>Sony money already paid for development costs.
If you could magically fix this series from the clutches of XSneed chudlators, what would you fix and undo first?
>Was excited for the game
>See the interview where Yoshi-P basically says he hates the fans and wants GoT loving normalfags to buy this one
>Worried but whatever
>Demo comes out
>It's shit
>Lose interest and forget the game even exist until seeing a barry thread
It's over for this franchise.
Can you imagine if this piece of shit subhuman non-dev would stop giving interviews?
Imagine how many more people would have bought the game if the dude just shut the fuck up.
bro only autists read interviews. Harada pretty much shit on tekken fans requests and nobody gives a fuck, this is just nintendo fandom mad at this guy for ff to last longer thanks to the changes ff14 got, they wanted ff to die and become a nintendo exclusive again
Dont forget before yoshida the previous one was Nomura, tendies have a special hatred towards ff
More like ps5
Normies don't care about these things actually, and dramafags don't even buy games
I think my personal favorite cope is:
>PC will save it!!!
No it won't. The cat's out of the bag, the game's shit and it will probably need a 4090.
I foresee 100k sales lifetime on PC (half of which will be refunded) if it goes straight to Steam, and 10k-ish sales if it goes to Epic.
I'm also gutsy enough to make another call: we will never get a new sales report like the 3m-announcement. I don't think this game is moving at ALL anymore.
I reckon it would've moved big numbers if it had a PS5/Steam launch at the same time
But it's SE and they're obviously going to do a late PC port + Epic exclusive for 12 months or someshit, DOA.
>Epic exclusive for 12 months
At this point why even bother? The small portion of people who actually care will just have pirated it by that time anyway, so when it releases on Steam it'll sell 1000 more copies and that's your lot.
Nier Automata, a 6 year old game moves around 500k copies every 6 months. FFXVI, a game that is only 3 months old can't move even 10k. Tentpole brand, my ass.
XV gradually sold another 5+ million after its initial launch window. XIV also keeps on selling the expacs pretty well. The brand can do this fine; the problem is XVI specifically.
>I think my personal favorite cope
That is a good one. I personally think the online "activity" around the game is the most fun to laugh at. The subreddit is dead, journous do nothing but shit on it, /vg/ general is hemorrhaging, and the 99% of the threads on Ganker die within an hour. The only ones that do well usually have 30ish IPs in them, which speaks to my point: people don't care.
>Epic
How distraught must Square Enix (or at least Nomura) be now that Epic's cancelled their welfare program for developers?
So Epic is doomed until fortnite flopd
Can always looks at Famitsu for Jap physical sales. FFXVI sold 1.3k physical copies in Japan during August
>The peak of the enjoyment was reached by the end of the demo.
I hear of this so much, is it really true?
Game literally starts after demo anon. Enjoyment begins when you reach Garuda. 2nd act is the best part of the game, not first act.
>Magically
Have you read their financial reports? XVI was profitable since day 1.
>Have you read their financial reports? XVI was profitable since day 1.
Really? Post that then!
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/24q1earnings.pdf
HD sales(FFXVI) up, mobile and MMO flopped.
Not that anon but a sement's net sales within a period being higher than the same period the previous year does not give you enough information to conclude an individual product failed or succeeded. You're an idiot who falls for politicalspeak.
Flopspoken failed
FFXVI is a success
Maybe both failed while Harvestella is carrying, we just don't know.
This post is an obvious joke btw
>Harvestella
Inevitable!
> BENEEEECUCCCKTAHHHHHH!!!
Firstly, this doesn't confirm that Sony paid for anything nor how much they paid if they did.
Secondly, this mentions titles "including" XVI and Pixel Remaster (lol!) meaning we have no idea if XVI is profitable or not, just that their "HD Game sub-segment" is.
The fact that you look at this and consider it proof only reveals how ruinously retarded fans of XVI really are.
You have to remember that these "people" (using that term very charitably here) are barely sentient cult-members who will literally cope themselves out of reality if it fits their narrative.
>Firstly, this doesn't confirm that Sony paid for anything
Yeah, dude. Yoshida made it PS exclusive out of his fanboyism right? Are nintendies this delusional?
Very sad post Anon. You should be ashamed.
If I was to guess (and yes gay, guessing is all we have, that sad report you posted proves nothing), I'd assume they might have paid for the advertisement. It got a ton of PS5-coverage from Sony and I'm assuming they did that out of their own pocket. Playstation does well in the west, SE knows this, so having Sony help with the advertisement was probably reason enough to make it timed PS5-exclusive.
Jim has made it clear that he cares very little about exclusives anyway, and it's not a Bloorborn-exclusive-forever-tier either, just timed, so I'm guessing they didn't get that much out of it.
FTC case revealed what I said though. Square went to MS for exclusivity first in fact. MS refused because they didn't wanted to pay what Square asked for. Sony was willing to pay though and that's why it's PS5 exclusive.
> generic, boring gameplay
I guess that's why it's the only FF where I wasn't bored with basic encounters even after 50 hours.
It became popular only post 2017. It's a Nintendo shill term.
>Ohh look at Zelda/MK8 it sells 30M every year! Such strong legs!
Deranged
Tribalism is the greatest threat facing humanity today.
>Tribalism is the greatest threat facing humanity today.
Says the fucking Nintendo shill who'se been seething about FFXVI for 3 months straight. If it was a Switch game and sold 3M you guys would be bragging about how much of a success it is like you do with Xenoblade series despite FFXVI outselling entire Xenoblade series in 6 days.
The last Nintendo hardware I purchased was an NDS like 15 years ago and I don't even have emulators for their consoles installed. You are mentally ill.
Imagine going from FF is a Mario/Zelda/Pokemon level IP all the way down to Xenoblade to cope.
>FTC case revealed what I said though.
Wonderful, post the proof and I'll gladly stop my speculation. But if said proof does not confirm what Sony paid, just that they were willing to pay for exclusivity, you may as well not bother with it.
And again, read it carefully, I'm not interested in what SE asked for, that's not the number that will prove your claim, what will prove your claim is how much Sony paid SE for the PS5 exclusive of XVI.
Sorry, it was Yoshida. He talks about how they went to publishers for exclusivity deal. None of them provided a support as good as Sony's. They also worked with PS' technical teams while designing their Radec(FFXVI) Engine, similar to how From got support from Japan Studios for upgrading their engine for Bloodborne.
> Not a genius
Okay, so we know nothing then.
>Kingdom Hearts is on par with Dragon Quest
LA CREATIVIDAD
He really has creativity for being a concept artist
>basic encounters
The actual gameplay within the encounters is good, but the problem it's plagued with boring MMOslop inbetween all that. If they condensed the game down, it would've been a masterpiece. There's a lot of fiddling with menus and talking to boring NPCs so the game doesn't scratch the RPG itch nor the action game one. Or if the NPCs and side quests were interesting, MMOslop would've been forgiven.
Normally, FF games make for decent content on Twitch but many streamers saw shit numbers when streaming this game.
>It became popular only post 2017
(You)
Lets actually read this!
>Net sales
This is NOT what you think it means.
This is copies sold. BUT operating income measures how much the company actually is profiting from these sales when budget is taken into account.
That dropped hard, thanks to XVI!
operating income is down meaning ff16s 3m worth of revenue did not lead to it being profitable
Operating income is down because they were paying back development debts that quarter
FF16 was likely profitable, though it wasn't profitable enough to counterbalance said debts
They were down because all of ff16 costs were counted in that quarter, ff16 has not profited yet
No they weren't. You don't pay back the entire debt of a game's development and have it completed 1 week after release.
You pay it back in the months to follow once the product has released. This is large sums of money we're talking about here.
Yes they were you fucking retard, the rearranged their books so that all of FF16's costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024, that is why the OI took a huge hit even despite the revenue generated from the 3m being all accounted for there yet still not enough to make FF16 profitable
>the rearranged their books so that all of FF16's costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024
Proof?
Their Q1 FY 2024 report, and literally every fucking SE analyst saying so.
Their Q1 report just said they were paying back development debts, nothing about FF16
SE would have nothing to gain by "re-arranging their books" and paying off FF16 in a week when they could have spaced it out over the coming months
The development debts are for FF16, are you mentally ill? They do that for all their AAA games you idiot, how fucking new are you?
Their Japanese games get 100% of their costs counted in the Fiscal quarter they release in, their western games (live avengers) had 70% of their costs counted in the fiscal quarter they released in
>Their Japanese games get 100% of their costs counted in the Fiscal quarter they release in
Are you going to provide any evidence of this being the case of nah
SE analysts
Not my problem you are underage and can't do basic ass research
>unable to provide any links/pics etc
I'll accept your defeat.
>Have you read their financial reports? XVI was profitable since day 1.
That's a lie.
The demo pitches the game as an actual political plot, but that's pretty much dropped right after the demo ends. The last boss is AYYLMAO-God who you have to kill with the power of friendship despite Clive not having any friends.
>The demo pitches the game as an actual political plot, but that's pretty much dropped right after the demo ends
cool might actually pick up the game then
It drop it to fecth quests like buying garlick for mid cid stepdaughter and saving branded whiggers
YoshiP is the directior of the infamous "iT gEtS gOoD aFtEr 100 HoUrS" the game. So he literally front-loaded all the good plot within FF16's demo but the game takes a nosedive in narrative quality throughout the game.
The Final Fantasy ACTION GAME was better off as a 20hr movie instead of a game. The narrative suffers from the generic, boring gameplay sprinkled throughout the game.
Thus it didn't cater to FF fans nor did it cater to the GoTfags.
Now saying all of this, I think the game is good, but it's nowhere near the system seller that Sony and SE were hoping. Of course it got shit sales.
> cater to the GoTfags.
Shit that is not only currently reviled, but had not been relevant in almost a decade.
SE is shit with their bandwagon timing...
The demo gives you well-directed cutscenes, a political plot, involved family dynamics, and no time wasting filler. The actual game then drops all of this and forces you to spend the next 40 hours collecting sand, collecting flowers, listen to SLAVERY BAD x1000, and eventually forget all that shit and just go beat up some boring alien to solve all the world's problems forever.
Yes.
Literally 5 minutes after the demo ends where the protag killed his little child brother brutally and gets sold into slavery by his mother, it flashes to 13 years in the future and he immidiately meets his childhood friend who is now suddenly shiva just because, he then turns out his captain and then out of nowhere some guy who is also ramuh just happens to know who clive is and also happens to have his fucking DOG from 13 years ago and he immiediately gets saved from his slavery and joins a resistance group
There was literally no weight to him even being a slave because all we ever even see of it is his taking orders from his captain to just get to the vantage points and to kill shiva, which he was literally entirely on board to do but he only stopped because he realised shiva is his childhood friend from 13 years ago just because
It completely drops the political setup that the first 2 hours had and falls into a clusterfuck of worse and worse writing, poorly written slavery stories, poorly written characters, oh and worst of all is that his little kid brother isn't even dead, he survived somehow offscreen just because, yet the entire first half of the game is just clive living with the guilt of killing his brother even though he didn't even fucking do it
Cid was tailing Shiva for a while at that point.
besides the point
Jill being shiva is a pointless convenience
The game just isn't fun. I got to the part where you repair the bridge in the town before dropping it.
You either kill an enemy in 10 seconds flat, or it's some giant health bar miniboss that you have to mindlessly wail on for 5 minutes straight.
It doesn't help that the combat sucks, you just spam square, triangle, square, triangle, square, triangle, square, triangle constantly until your cooldown is finished so you hit R2 and square or triangle, then go back to spamming melee + magic back and forth. That kind of ability cooldown centred combat is never fun for me.
And you get into combat constantly, just walking around will mean you hit a group of enemies every 30 seconds or less.
It also really feels like an MMO, something about the quests, dialogue, areas, and camera angles for NPC conversations feels a lot like it was made by people who make MMOs.
I didn't care for it but I liked it more than what I played of XIV.
Barry spam thread
Seeing the shills progressively going from smug to aggressive to finally being silent is pure bliss.
Mogged by BG3, Elden ring and genshin impact
>Sales likely at 4 million
>DLC to come
>PC release to come
>Game subsidised by Sony
Very successful, should be 10 million lifetime
>Sales likely at 4 million
>likely
70 to 80% of game sales are on the Playstation store, you have no idea what these figures are but Sony have had 2 months to sell 800k to 900k copies after the game shipped 3 million in the first week. There's no good reason to believe it's not at 4 million now
>shipped 3 million in the first week
That 3m included shipped AND digital sales. The game had zero legs whatsoever. Nobody is talking about the game much anymore, fuck, the only reason I knew it was getting DLC and a PC port was because of these threads.
>Y-YOU DON'T KNOW SO I COULD BE RIGHT!
Yes, and aliens could invade tomorrow, but probably not. You people are out of your fucking minds.
moron the game sold less than 100k copies during july in the US, outsold by Remnant 2 on ps5
Anyway being closer to 4 million copies almost 3 months later is not a great flex
>Anyway being closer to 4 million copies almost 3 months later is not a great flex
Same trajectory as 7R, it will do even better in fact because it will come to PC(Steam) sooner.
>"""likely"""
>muh PC!
>subsidised by Sony
I love these threads. Wailing on you idiots will never not be funny.
i don't really understand the manchild rage against this game
its pretty good
one of the few worth games this entire year
i am just waiting for the PC port though.
>its pretty good
What makes it good?
its not woke nor made by chud devs so thats good enough in the year of 2023
DMC-lite combat is a nice bonus.
AND the protagonist doesn't like twink.
Nice soundtrack too.
>its not woke nor made by chud devs so thats good enough in the year of 2023
Subjective point. Still has a gay anyway
>DMC-lite combat is a nice bonus.
DMC-lite isn't good when that's all the game has with no other systems to lean on
>AND the protagonist doesn't like twink.
True. Clive is probably in my Top 3 FF protags from a design perspective
>Nice soundtrack too.
A few, mainly the Eikons. I cannot remember any of the music in the game that happened in cutscenes or in zones
It doesn’t need any more systems to lean on. I’m honestly glad the rpg elements are barely there so it can work better as an action game. You end up with 7R’s confused combat if you try to approach the middle of the rpg-action spectrum. Also, FF fans literally can’t understand action games on a fundamental level so I’m not surprised people got filtered by XVI.
The only thing XVI filtered is money. The game can very literally play itself.
>journo mode
>posting pre-release pics and webms
I get it now. You didn’t even play the game and now you’re just trying to shitpost. Have a nice day.
>so I’m not surprised people got filtered by XVI.
Biggest complaint: Game is too fucking easy, mobs just stand there waiting for you to kill them, hard mode isn't available until you beat the game, which no one even wants to play after beating it once (if that)
>filtered
Cope gay lmfao
It is still at 3m
the dlc is cut content
we already knew a PC version was happening since 2020
no it wasnt
it was a colossal failure
>no it wasnt
Sales losses caused by exclusivity deals are made up for by the money they got bribed. Epic Games does the same shit. This isn't new. The question is how much did they actually take for the ps5 deal.
>dlc is cut content
All games have cut content, but 16 was released as a finished product with nothing out of place or feeling missing. Go back to Wokefield and Tumblr's Gate if you can't use your brain.
Forspoken has a bigger exclusivity deal then FF16 does so cope
>finished
Nope, Leviathan shit is cut content, anything to do with joshua or barnabas or anabella or dion or hugo or benedikta or jill or cid backstory is all cut and missing from the game
did DQ11 sold better or worse than the last 2 FF?
man i fucked up the grammar, sorry
XVI outsold 5 years of DQXI in 6 days...
>XVI sold 3m
>DQ11 sold 6.5m (as of 2021)
I know numbers are hard but you need to learn.
>DQ11 sold 6.5m (as of 2021)
WTF? I though it was 2.8M or something as of 2020. I guess I was wrong.
I actually genuinely admire when people admit they're wrong so I'll even give you the source: https://gamingbolt.com/dragon-quest-11-has-shipped-6-5-million-copies-worldwide
Good on you Anon.
It sold amazingly well first week in Japan iirc, the original versions, Japan loves that shit
They even had public holidays for it or osmeshit
Other way around, DQ games are released on the weekends because too many people were skipping work if they got released during the week
Not only that it has switch version thats double sales
Square Enix stopped releasing them on weekdays because it nobody showed up to work and had a noticeable effect on the economy
Actually DQ12 didn't do so hot at first because of SE going all in PS4 like a retard and then having to pivot to zombie 3DS when the preorders didn't look so hot, the 3DS sold better than PS4 but none of them broke any records, 3DS is pretty much the lowest mainline DQ seller it was too late for a 3DS release, and PS4 didn't even reach that, selling on par with the DS remakes.
Eventually they've got to a respectable 4 Million or so in Japan with the Switch release plus the 3M sales of the originals but SE almost ruined DQ11 with their retarded business tactics.
Hello time traveler
Kek it was DQ11, "western DQ12 fear" rentfree in my mind.
The 3DS and PS4 versions of 11 were simultaneous releases
The whole development must have been fucky behind the scenes since it was announced for Switch before the Switch itself was properly announced but it came out everywhere else first
They re gonna finish the job with 12
Worse of course (counting 13 and 15 as the last 2 FF), DQ has never been on the level of FF it's too Japan focused to do it.
Now I think DQ12 can absolutely beat FFXVI as long as SE doesn't go full retard like with FFXVI.
>Now I think DQ12 can absolutely beat FFXVI as long as SE doesn't go full retard like with FFXVI.
>"Darker" DQ game
>failing to be more "Mature". (TL note: Mature meaning pandering to the Westerners kind of mature)
>Changing the classic turn based gameplay that we all know and love (for better or for worse) of DQ
uhhhhhhhhh
Square enix is dead
SE is so retarded with their flagship IP lately, just make it classic DQ and put it on Switch/Switch2 bam easy 6 million seller, instead they will risk everything to get 3 million in the west with little in Japan and destroying overall sales.
Not even dq wants to be turn based anymore. It's why I always say: dead genre kek
We need a third nuke ASAP.
> Laughs in fatlus
>dead genre
Fear me.
I'm sure turn based Mario will finally do good this time! Oh wait
Maybe Mario RPGs won't bankrupt SE
Dead genre kek
>I'm sure turn based Mario will finally do good this time!
Yes unironically. Clench your butthole because you don't appear to be ready for it.
>
>carried by brand
Paper Mario was better anyways.
Persona 6 is going to destroy this board.
Persona 5 was dreadfully boring compared to 3 and 4. I'm still hopeful for 6 and Metaphor though.
I kinda think Metaphor has promise. Persona 6 is probably another 10+ years away from even getting announced so I'm not holding my breath on that one.
>For adults
I want sex scenes in DQ12.
What is "Puff-Puff"? I played that entire game and I never understood what exactly that term implies.
It's clearly something vaguely erotic but I have no idea if it's a kiss on the cheek, full-on throating or anything in between.
Motorboating, it's one of those Toriyama sex jokes from DB.
It varies
inb4 all "more mature" means is that they aren't aiming for a CERO A rating anymore
Finally a DQ worth playing that isn't Heroes/Builders.
I would rather have Builders 3 than DQ12 to be honest
Good.
Turnbased should be relegated to mobile. It's just gachaslop for boomers who think they're too cool for slot machines/video poker.
but why?? who's doing the marketing sampling tests?
It launched around 2.4-2.8m sales and crossed the 3m threshold about 10 days later then about a year to cross the 4m mark.
Sitting around 6.5m since 2021 and they haven't made any announcements of breaking 7m
FFXV 10m
FF7R 5m (5.5m including PC, it's PS5 version sales are below forspoken)
DQ11 did 6.5m, so DQ11 outsold FF7R and FF16, but not FFXV
Btw DQ11 sales are the 3DS version, PS4, PC and Switch version, and technically the 3DS version is a different game to the PS4/PC/Switch version, them counting the 3DS version as DQ11 sales would be like counting FFXV pocket edition as XV sales, which would make XV at like 12 million in that case
>selling 3+ mil copies in less than a month is LE BAD
Imagine if this was Ninja Gaiden.
Imagine if this was Devil May Cry.
Imagine if this was God Hand.
Imagine if this was Bayonetta.
Imagine if this was Armored Core 6.
Imagine if this was literally any fucking action game, the only reason why this game still has fanboys and retards desperately defending it is because it has the (once respectable) Final Fantasy label on it.
It looks like DMC2 if Dante and every enemy had suffered multiple strokes at once.
You’re posting disingenuous webms to dunk on a game you haven’t played
Could you post a video which makes XVI look fun?
No, "fun", not "funny".
I wasn't baiting. Post something genuinely cool please.
There's even a video showing how to do this!
>Got proven wrong and that xhe is a shitter
>Brings up optional accessibility options
AHAHASHDAHDHAHAHHHHDHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>include ff15 mode
>don't include ff15 sales
Should have just hyped up 16 as Versus 14 and rugpulled.
5m. Day 1. Not week 1, day 1.
Not even FF15 is as casual as FF16
In XV if you hold down one button all it does is loop a mid combo basic attack
Attack structure in XV is
opening attack > mid combo loop > finisher
During mid combo loop you do directional inputs, but if you just hold it will just loop the mid combo loop forever until the enemy is within 1 hit before it is dead when only then will a finisher happen
You are far better off just tapping because you get manual openers straight to finishers and can skip the entire mid combo by tapping, and finishers deal way more damage so when you manually do finishers by tapping you are better DPS than just holding anything
In FF16 if you use the easy ring and press one button then it does every single attack you have, your R2+ square and R2+ triangle moves, your eikon abilities, your triangle abilities, etc all with one button, which makes it way more casual than anything in XV
>defending 15s forced journo mode combat
He finally stumbled across this thread
>In XV if you hold down one button all it does is loop a mid combo basic attack
It makes the player character run towards the next enemy and attack them.
You lied about this before and then got proven wrong with actual proof from the game.
Sprint is circle, mid combo attack is the only thing that will continually happen
You will not sprint towards an enemy unless you are locked onto them or are very close to them
>Sprint is circle, mid combo attack is the only thing that will continually happen
>You will not sprint towards an enemy unless you are locked onto them or are very close to them
All of this is wrong. You can start a fight, hold circle without locking onto anything and Noctis will autorun over to enemies and attack them.
No he won't, you need to be locked onto them or within range for an opening hit to attack them for him to even start moving towards them via softlock
holding O by default does nothing, moving L-stick while holding O and you will start sprinting in the direction you move in while you are holding O, if you are within range of an enemy for an opening attack to hit then holding O will have you run up to them and attack, if you are not in range then you will not run up to them just from holding O, you need to hold R1+O for that to happen since that locks on to the target and only then will you sprint to that target even if they are far away.
>You will not sprint towards an enemy unless you are locked onto them
This is also wrong.
You're lying about the game you claim is good.
Nope, you keep proving you never played the game
You will only sprint to an enemy if you are locked onto them by pressing R1 and O , or are within attack range of them via the softlock.
>You will only sprint to an enemy if you are locked onto them by pressing R1 and O
nope. Just hold O.
Nope, you need to hold R1 to target an enemy for him to even start sprinting, and otherwise you have to already be in attack range of an enemy
Still lying kek.
>otherwise you have to already be in attack range of an enemy
so immediately when the battle music starts kek.
You really are fucking retarded and keep proving you never played the game
ummmmm barry can you please explain
why you're lying again??
>You will not sprint towards an enemy unless you are locked onto them or are very close to them
Really Barry? Really?
>Barry doesnt play the games he shills for
Kek. Can't say blame her, it is pretty shit.
>literally within attack range where it soft locks
So you're just retarded
>can literally just hold O once the battle related music starts
lmao
>retard didn't read the part about soft lock and got BTFO
So you're retarded
>You will not sprint towards an enemy unless you are locked onto them or are very close to them
>very close turned into within attack range turned into when you're close enough that battle music starts
ha ha ha
Learn to read, see
You were btfo
That is happening there because of the soft lock, you were BTFO
>holding O by default does nothing
>proven wrong since you can just hold O as soon as the music starts
ha ha ha
If you are out of range of an enemy you will not do anything, can you not fucking read?
>XVIchud still posting literal fake 5ch posts because he got BTFO
>If you are out of range of an enemy
see
as soon as the battle music starts lol
>Literlaly posts in range and literal soft lock
You keep BTFOing yourself you stupid gay
>Literlaly posts in range
>As soon as the battle music starts
lmao. Hold O is all you need to do to win battles!
>literally see the soft lock in the clip
You just keep proving yourself wrong
>all you need
to die.
>literally see that you can just hold O to attack
thanks barry!
>Literally see that you die if you try holding to attack
Good job outing yourself as a retard Nathan!
>Literally see that you will win by just holding down attack as soon as the battle music starts
I see!
You will win FF16 by holding square yes we know it's the most casual dogshit FF ever, meanwhile in XV you die trying to hold O and the only attack it does continually is the mid combo loop, sometimes it skips the opening and just starts in the mid combo loop too making it worse than just tapping to attack
Cope
idk if this guy is barry, eric, or acfag. but whoever this is, is a fuckin psycho
So this is what the game over screen looks like. Never saw it in my 100 hours of playing.
>hold o to combat
>party takes no damage
Topkek
>dies trying to hold O showing it is not viable whatsoever
>gladio is trying to tank hits that would hit noct there so if gladio wasn't there then noct would have been KO even faster
You can just sword teleport to a tree and let your party win so you don't even really need to hold o
>start a new game
>intentionally go to an area where the dropship drops level 15+ enemies while you're level 1
I hate you cherrypicking gays so much it's unreal.
That is Chapter 3 and that is the first area in duscae you are given access to early in the game and those are the earliest soldier enemies you can encounter from drop ships in chapter 3, you need to stop coping you gay XVI chud
Doesn't matter if it's chapter 1 or chapter 18. Prompto starts the game at like ~215 HP and gets ~10-15 per level.
So at best you're looking at a level 2, MAYBE 3, Noctis going against a bunch of level 18 or whatever they are enemies.
You can't fool me with your bullshit, I've played all of these games, 14, 15, KH3, Forspoken, 16. I see right through you lies.
Since you're a fucking retard, level of enemies doesn't mean anything because your stats are determined by weapons moreso than your own level, you can be level 1 and have higher stats than level 120 based on your gear setup
>because your stats are determined by weapons moreso than your own level
You mean the default weapons that the party is clearly using that have fuckall for stats?
Like I said, you can't fool me with your bullshit. You may be able to fool other retards on this site that don't actually play video games, but I've played the 5 games that you're utterly obsessed with (multiple times for all of them except Forspoken). You're bullshit won't work on me.
Noctis has a shield equipped there you stupid fuck, you don't start the game with shields you have to go and get one
What is Noct's softlock range? Because he locked onto the enemy from halfway across the battle zone
Can you post an example with Noct engaged in a battle with enemies where the softlock doesn't activate and holding circle does nothing like you originally claimed?
>Gets BTFO
>can you do my homework?
No, keep coping
Ah, I take it Noct's "attack range" is effectively global when he's in a fight and he will always run over to an enemy, meaning your claim that Noctis will "do nothing" when holding circle is in fact impossible to accomplish and you were talking out your ass as usual.
Ah well.
Go and stand out in the open field and hold circle, nothing will happen
No shit, the original conversation was about controls in battle, not in the field
Sir! Delete this bloody bastard bitch!
See
Kek Barry btfo.
Next he'll say 15 doesn't have any midnight transitions or start kh3 hitstop.
Tabata was a mistake
So FF15 is better than FF16, that's what you're proving.
Duscae > everything else > XVI > Kingsglaive movie > YouTube ads for XV > XV
XV is better than anything prior
that looks terrible.
like an MMD fight
Why'd you reset your IP XVI chud? It mogs anything in trash 16
Not that person but man the only thing that was worse than 15 was 13 getting not 1 but 2 sequels
Havent played 16 because lol ps5 but to claim that 15 is better then everything
Its worse in every way except graphics compared to any earlier entry
16 is worse than 15
7R is too, and 15 is better than every FF
Ardyn mogs any FF villain and the XV bros are the best party in FF history, the ending in XV in the best ending in the franchise
>larping as FF15fag
Coward nintendie
>ardyn mogs any ff villain
>his entire backstory and reasoning for doing anything isn't even in the game
>turns out hes just butthurt and addicted to demon cum
Ardyn's backstory is in base game, meanwhile kefka has even less backstory and same with sephiroth, hell kefka's entire backstory is missable NPC dialog
His DLC is not his backstory, it is extra stuff made for because fans loved Ardyn so much just from base game that they demanded he get his own DLC too
We already knew he was doing everything out of spite from base game you stupid fuck, that makes him based and he utterly mogs anyone in any other FF
>his entire backstory and reasoning for doing anything isn't even in the game
Yes it literally is, he literally fucking tells you, Bahamut then tells you, and then Talcott also tells you
>dlc shit to understand the main villain
trash game
>story dlc gets shitcanned because no one buys or plays it so it gets made into a fucking book
Are you fucking retarded? We knew about ardyn all from base game, his DLC does not even reveal anything we didn't already know about his motivation from base game, and it didn't get cancelled either you stupid fucktard, it literlaly only got made soley due to fan demand because he was so beloved
People were literally making videos gushing over Ardyn years before his DLC was even first fucking shown you retard
Meanwhile you literally need to read the fucking FF16 ultimania to understand ultima properly and it reveals he's been living on the planet for 5000 years or some shit
no one gives a shit about your half assed dlc plot, XV-kun
>Literally all base game stuff
Keep coping XVIniger
>Meanwhile you literally need to read the fucking FF16 ultimania to understand ultima properly and it reveals he's been living on the planet for 5000 years or some shit
lol
lmao even
just read the fucking ATL entries and it tells you all that. Also Ultima quite literally says he came from another star, created humans in their akashic form, and then went to sleep while he recharged so he could summon his bros or whatever the fuck he was trying to accomplish at the end, and during that 5000 years he was sleeping mankind gained sentience and lost their akashic forms.
Fucking speedreaders I swear to god. You have been ruining JRPG discussion for decades and it's ALWAYS the fucking same . Just play the fucking game and pay attention to the dialog instead of "playing" the game while mashing through/skipping all cutscenes and you wouldn't be so goddamn confused about whats happening.
>ATL
Oh the ATL that mentions Joshua was in a coma for 5 years and spent 3 years healing after that? Oh wait none of that is every mentioned anywhere in the ATL or the game whatsoever, it's only ever mentioned in the Japanese only book released 3 months after the game came out!
You missed the part where I said
>Also Ultima quite literally says [...]
and then go on to explain everything you claim to have to read in an ultimania.
Meanwhile, you're insisting that Ardyn is fully fleshed out and that we just missed it because we didn't read the dialog or missed NPC dialog. Fucking irony there mate.
Ardyn is fully fleshed out, that is literally why he was so beloved and why fans wanted a DLC so they could play as him because they loved him so much to begin with, keep coping you revisionist moron gay
>Ardyn is fully fleshed out
lol
lmao even
Prove how he isn't, he has more backstory than kefka or sephiroth in base game, he accomplishes more than either of them and he fully fucking wins unlike either of them.
>more backstory
You don't learn about it in depth until the ova and anime lol
Nothing that wasn't already known is learned in that you retard, we know he was betrayed and we know he took in too much starscourge that his body became impure and was forbidden to ascend because bahamut literally fucking tells you in base game
>Prove how he isn't
Well, for one they needed to rework the back part of the game to include a lot more context relevant things with him.
They also needed an entire DLC to flesh out his character and motivations.
But go ahead and deflect that by saying "blah blah blah he's fully fleshed out NOW and that's what matters" or some other inane rebuttal.
Ardyn as the final boss developped to be cool too late into the endgame to be relevant
>Please play the first x hours before the game gets good.
No, 1 bird doesnt imply summer, 1 good character doesnt imply a good game
Ardyn was relevant in the game the entire duration, the fuck are you talking about? You first encounter him in ch1, he reappears in ch3, ch4, ch5, ch7, ch9, ch10, ch11, ch12, ch13, ch14, and in the chapters he doesn't appear in which is literally 3 chapters out of 14 in the game the party is still talking about him and he is still relevant in the overarching narrative as a whole
XV is good since the beginning, meanwhile dogshit like 16 or 14 are never good
>shows up, waves at you from an airship, then fucks off for another 30 hours
>oh uhhh by the way this hobo is the main villain we forgot to tell you before the last 2 hours of the game
>relevant
So you lack any media literacy whatsoever?
>Appears in major story cutscenes mutliple times in crucial tense moments, reveals himself to be part of the empire in chapter 4
Why are you so fucking retarded? We already knew he was the main villain before the game released, the only thing he reveals towards the end is his true identity which is the twist of who is really is, why the fuck would that be revealed early on when it's literally the twist? him being the villain is not the twist you stupid gay
his first appearances which I did see are dull and he didn't leave an impression
I stopped playing after noctis lost his team members because noctis is fucking boring, this was like ch8 or something? whenever Shiva makes her appearance and you're walking on some train track while everything is frozen, or something else that was frozen idk its been years and the game wasn't memorable so its hard to remember exact details
it also comitted the sin of forcing you to watch an equally boring movie beforehand to understand why this prince was on a field trip with 3 dudes
He leaves a massive impression and steals the scene every single time he is on screen, stop being a contrarian cunt, you are defending XVI so you will never have a valid opinion no matter what.
looks like shit, XV-kun
Can't believe retards say FFXV's companion ai is good when all they do is attack over and over, and hold that up over FFXVI.
Both games have shit combat. Bickering about which one is better just distracts from the main point, that SE is completely out of touch and trying to move away from what made the series successful in a desperate attempt to get younger generations to buy their games
Jfc. No wonder Yoshi fired Luminous on his bday and killed the studio
Still incredibly funny to me that with all the different iterations they made, the fucking demo still played the best out of all of em.
No it didn't, everything in the demo is in the final game but better in the final game
Got anything with a bit more meat than juggling a damage sponge? Something like dodging a complicated string of enemy attacks using your various mobility moves?
Odin boss fight
Benedikta
Hugo
Any dragon
Pandemonium
Oh yeah, any dragoons too. Minotaurs as well. And the cannoneer miniboss. And sleipnir. Maybe some more I'm forgetting.
>Look up video of Odin
>Whenever he swings time pauses giving the player time to iframe away from his attack
Is this one of the easy mode rings?
Watching Benedikta right now.... looks like the interactive part of the fight is circle strafing some very slow projectiles? Nobeta had more hype gameplay than what I'm seeing here.
What kinda stories/settings are you into Anon?
FFT is a great game, but if you're a little tired of politics FFX is pretty okay too. I'd argue one of the better ones is FF6, but it's pretty old so you're going to have to tolerate some pixels.
Been playing ffxiv since 2012 and I can't believe I don't see more people talking about how overambitious it was for him to direct and produce 2 giant games simultaneously.
Rabid fans talk about how awesome Yoship is for it but there's no way you can split your attention between projects like that and not have them suffer for it. FFXIV's post-endwalker content has been the worst and most boring garbage in ages, especially the raid content. TOP is an unfun torture chamber with terrible looking rewards, the latest savage tier is zero fun to execute. Criterion dungeon rewards are garbage and there's no repeatable world content.
Yoship wanted to have his cake and eat it too. In the end it just left all his fans starving.
He didn't direct XVI and it's hardly overambitious. They started after 3.0 shipped and had a chunk of XIV team move over, 3.X doesn't have much going on but the gsme was still kinda new and regaining footing after ARR. 4.0 and 4.X end up having tons of content without much sacrifice. By this point, no one considers the new JRPG to be an issue, but 5.0 and 5.X starting changing a lot of things for the worse, a lot of content was planned for delays or cut before covid impacted development (Yoshida gematsu interview from early February 2020, conducted mid-January) and then combined with a combined patch worth of delay it really hurts dev cycle. Now 6.0 and 6.X on paper has more content, so it should've been better, but the reality is all of it was shallow and uninteresting, here the cope is that XVI development impacted XIV when it's simply devs being lazy and unambitious. The cope for 7.0 and 7.X of course will be the XVI DLCS, it won't be until 8.0 and 8.X that people realize a good expansion with good content and proper middleground between accuracy melding and whatever the fuck has been going on since 5.0 existed while XVI was being developed with no issues at all besides Eureka delay to increase item capacity from 99 to 999 a stack
Hard to believe there was a time when two less "hard" dungeons an expansion was the rallying cry for XIV being abandoned...
so funny to me that barry posts like clockwork. same times everyday
>This isn't some Chinese earphones on Amazon
reminder that OP shills Forspoken and he is trolling
>Barry still obsessing over the same guy on a daily basis four months later
Financial success
2 DLCs confirmed
since when does Ganker care if a game made profit or not?
if the game isn't fun why bother
>tfw this bikini schizo ruining genshin, atelier trails etc threads was a tendie
I'll get it when it comes to PC I've been listening to some of the OST and it slaps.
Turn based is gacha now
Where are the threads about other turn based japanese games?
I liked it more than I thought I would. But, it was still piss easy. It takes too long to get different elemental abilities. No real customization options sucked. Cool kinda foundation there, but it just needed some more meat.
Squeenix is following the Sega trend of ruining their series and burning them to the ground, ignoring what the fans want.
Anon, you just don't understand, I'm sure Hyenas - Sega's AAAA game - will sell trillions and light the world on fire.
i really wanted this to be my first final fantasy game, i heard FFT is the best story jrpg game but i am on a burn out on political thrillers. what are some comfy jrpg games with a decent story or should i try out FFT or FFX?
FFT is pretty good, i liked xenogears more
Dragon Quest is literally known as the comfort food of JRPGs.
How could the miracle worker, the savior of FFXIV himself, fumble this opportunity so badly?
Snoy exclusive
Could have sold like 8 millions unironically
You are overestimating importance of Xbox or PC for FF sales.
Xbox, maybe, but pc and ps4 day one would have helped a lot
Remember when FF7 went PS1 exclusive after being on Nintendo hardware from the franchise's birth? It sold good.
Why is 16 different?
The franchise has been largely shit for 20 years and can't coast on pretty FMVs as a selling point anymore
Because people dont want to buy a ps5
Pretty sure way more people own ps5 right now than people owned ps1s at ff7's release
Pretty sure people planned to buy that 3d console and that pc gaming is more popular and consoles are getting too redundant.
Because the FF brand has been damaged beyond repair and most people that grew up on the classics dipped out around the time of 13, 15 at the absolute most.
People like you seem to forget that quite literally 20+ years of FF releases have been shit or split down the middle in terms of audience reception.
11 was seen as an incredibly obtuse MMO, even by pre-WoW MMO standards; 12 split the fanbase down the center between people that liked it and people that thought it was just a single player MMO with a poor story; 13 is 13, we all know what happened with 13; 14 1.0 was so bad it nearly bankrupted the entire company; 15 was released like 50% finished and a buggy mess.
Why would anyone in their right minds buy 16 after quite literally 20 years of pisspoor mainline releases? 15 was the last straw for a lot of people (evident by it's big sales numbers on week one which utterly plummeted afterwards).
People bought an Xbox for Starfield instead
>People bought an Xbox for Starfield instead
>Remember when FF7 went PS1 exclusive after being on Nintendo hardware from the franchise's birth? It sold good.
>Why is 16 different?
For me personally I just haven't enjoyed a Final Fantasy game after FF9. FF16 hasn't done anything wrong, in fact I'm more interested in the franchise again due to its direction it has gone in, but I don't have a PS5 and I abandoned the series after FF13. I was looking forward to FF7R, but after seeing the time jannies shit and cinematic anime scenes I didn't buy that either because that shit would have made me angry playing it.
I actually think the Final Fantasy franchise is in a crisis. Too many burnt bridges over two decades and today's generation doesn't have the same fondness as us old timers do.
leave him alone the game has been out for months now
Barry got BTFO so hard in this thread he made another thread pretending to be someone else
That thread came after this one. It has 5 posts and the first post destroys OP.
This might be the saddest thread I've seen on Ganker in a while.
I'm starting to think anit-Barry posters might actually be as retarded as Barry himself.
Why would you post this? What possible benefit could announcing this have?
Sounds like you got BTFO by barry
Really really pathetic stuff.
>The peak of the enjoyment was reached by the end of the demo.
Holy fuck LMAO
It's funny because it's true, the demo set up was never delivered upon
Just in bahamut then the game shit itself with barnabas the Monster fucker with mommy issues and mad ultimacius mikkelsen
FFXVI is very fun, decently successful, will just get better as ur ages with the new tech being discovered, and is a fantastic stepping stone for the future titles to take reference from, I have no doubt it will double maybe even triple it’s sales with the PC release, if it was such a colossal failure they wouldn’t even bother with a port or DLC
Cope some more shitposters
>I have no doubt it will double maybe even triple it’s sales with the PC release
Ain't nobody on PC waiting for this shit
>I have no doubt it will double maybe even triple it’s sales with the PC release
Oh I'm gonna play it, but I'm damn sure not gonna buy it after this lmao. It will release on Empress within a month. Cope
I think this is just a market shift, and normies are moving to crpgs. You just need to see how jrpg fans rather sperg about ff16 than talk about other jrpgs like crpgfags are doing
FFXVI is hardly a jRPG.
That makes it even worse, that means jrpg fans rather focus on this game over shilling real jrpgs
Like i said, crpgfags look like a better public to pander
>Squeenix spends a chunk of their TGS showcase last year shilling their PC game lineup
>Doesn't launch their biggest game of the year on PC
Why would anyone expect them to do anything smart at this point?
Once they make billions rugpulling a blockchain project you won't be laughing at 'em anymore.
Wait maybe they officialy announce it on pc this TGS KEK
Ask Gaben or Timmy to pay for PC exclusivity instead of being a cuck then.
FF used to be a console seller when consoles were cheaper and more then 1 mainline FF game released per console generation.
>PS1
7 / 8 / 9
>PS2
10 / 12
>PS3
13
>PS4
15
If this trend goes on FF17 will be sold on the PS6, meaning you will just be buying a console as a ff fan for a single game, that console is also overpriced.
The exclusivity is a delay with Sony, they get help optimizing the game from Sony if they make it temporarily exclusive.
If the 16 sales on PS5 will be shadowed excessively by pc sales we may see the end of PS exclusivity for FF
XV dlcs were cancelled for this?
Worse. Aranea DLC and modding tools were cancelled for THIS
Dios mio... i ddidnt play XVI, what the fuck is this shit?
FLOPSPOKEN: ATTIA GAME OF THE YEAR
A better game than FF16
No THIS
not even an FF9fag but I feel like this was a perfect time to have a game that was in the same level of spirit and whimsy as 9 does in the public perception
9 is the worst ps1 game and the fact that retarded zoomers are trying to hype it up today as the best only further solidifies my point.
This game wouldn't have flopped if they didn't let their only good director tabata quit
I'm going to Japan next month, do you think I can convince him to stop associating himself with 4 separate NFT projects and get back to making proper vidya, or is he a lost cause?
He is a lost cause barry just do a suicidal nuke at square enix hq
Barry, how many more of these threads are you gonna make?
Luminous Engine's final form. Literally.
Nope that gonna be Twitter fantasy XVII written by a fujo
You double triggered the double moron
FF16 is already 29% off from Square Enix directly, no other FF has ever been put on sale by Square that fast
>keeps posting outdated build
Nope, actually they're at cbu3 making ffxv-2. dreamboun coping and malding
theres only so far you can go with a franchise before its just a stale husk tbh
I just want a FF where you control 3 or 4 bros at once, with a job system, ATB, actual white, black, time magic like they used to do. In a game with FFVI's budget.
Not this watered down shallow flashy combat bullshit where you control one character
Octopath Traveler
Bravely Default
etc.
That hasn’t been a thing from ff12
Why shouldn't it be a thing again?
>In a game with FFXVI's budget
Sorry I missed the X in there
Why should it be a thing again?
Because it's better than what we have right now
No it isn’t, 16 has the best combat in the series by far besides 10, it’s only held back by its lack of super bosses
yeah sure. pressing r1 to dodge in a cutscene.. wow, haven't seen that since witcher 2
>QTEs bad
NPC opinion.
>if I dilute something surly it is bad!
I can do it too, I sure love pressing attack on a menu and watching an animation play the exact same way 100 times 😀
Disgusting cracker have a nice day
>Disgusting cracker have a nice day
Hi Barry
Click click whistle click pop click whistle.
The above is what it would be like If I decided to go live in moronland with all the morons, use moron technology, and speak the moron language, and then decide to insult morons for being morons.
Of course I made that up. Neither you nor I know how to speak moronese. For obvious reasons. Is that why you hate europeans so much? Inferiority complex?
I don’t care wonderbread
Barry defends XV not XVI you stupid gay
That’s just your opinion, I like both ATB and ffxvi’s combat
>Mimimi I intentionally ignore that few people have a ps5 and most have just given up on getting one
Gonna play it on the steam release based on word of mouth of real life buddies
>Why didn't the PC FF MMO players buy a ps5 to play just one game?!?!?!
Why would anyone?
I'm sick of seeing this fucking nip every single day.
when is yoshi-p going to be fired? he has ruined everything.
>Firing the face of your MMO
Unironically never.
ff mainline died after 2 back to back mainline titles (13 and 15, not counting the MMO, its a good game by itself but it doesnt make sense to count it as a mainline) were both the only FF on their respective consoles and both just sucked.
so for me i blame ps3s ff13 and ps4s ff15 as the reason I'm not buying 16
1 bad game can happen, 2 back to back means the studio has issues in development that will not be resolved any time soon
Don't worry, I will save Final Fantasy!
Bring Caim back to Nier first, you skull-faced fuck
For those that are sick of seeing that particular name that always get spammed in Final Fantasy threads, just use the word filer in settings and never see it again.
oof
>buttrapes clive
It's almost impressive how Jack came out and stole the show as a modern FF character that could swear, have serious moments and still be charming while being a gruff character.
Clive comes out and they start trying to sell him on aspects that Jack already pulled off which just makes Clive feel worse.
How the fuck does this thread gets posted multiple times a day every day and gets to bump limit every time? Who are the lunatics posting in basically the same shit every day over and over again like Groundhog Day? It has to be bots, right?
This. Meanwhile my Baten Kaitos and SO2 threads are dying
Maybe yoshitter is right and jrpg fandom is dead
>baten kaitos
>so2
go to Ganker retardo
Beaten Kaitos is getting a remake my dude
its getting a what!
see
Becuse FF is fantastic. Men can lose their sanity when they want something they can't have, things they don't want are ignored
We were made to admire and desire beauty, obsession is part of our nature. Obviously, FF is the most desired jrpg
Schizos, trolls, bots, shitposters FF threads are just magnets for these types of people
exactly what ff chuds waifufags deserve
Obsession presumably. Meanwhile I'm waiting on a PC port, because I'm not buying a ps5 for a single game
>15 defender is using his 5ch cope final attack
Larry won lmao
The simple fact is that this game is hated by everyone just because it is pozzed as fuck.
The literal who gay in this game is especially disgusting, he literally looks and acts like a creepy child rapist.
You said the same about tales of arise, xenofag.
>just because it is pozzed as fuck.
Baldur's Gayte is loved by everyone though, especially by people who repeats the shit you said. Real reason it's hated is because it's not pozzed at all.
>authentic european
>has a fucking fag sex scene
>Sex scene
We aren't talking about BG3. We are talking about FFXVI, only sex scenes are hetero in XVI.
total fag annihilation
But you always post smt5 gay shit
anon, Ganker is one of the most popular forums on the internet and Ganker is one of the fastest boards on Ganker. Idk how to break it to you, but your schizo headfriend youve prescibed all of these behaviors to isnt me.
>Continues dilating while """"playing""" this
So, you agree that gays are just as disgusting as trannies?
LMAO
BG3 is for waifufags, while FF16 is for trannies and gays who don't even own play video games
Ah, you again, the defender of homosexual child predators, still mad that Xeno3 flopped miserably because it had a fag in it? ...just like FF16 LMAO
>BG3 is for waifufags
More like trannies with axe wounds.
That's FF16, the game literally has no waifu LMAO
Just answer the question dude
you agree that gays are just as disgusting as trannies?
I like Dion and Astarion. I dont mix fictional characters with real life
>gayry
Is that why you zeldafags are always making ntr threads or link fucking ganon threads?
The reason tendies defend bg3 now its because its succesful and want to shill their game along bg3. We even get some troll scene
The reason why Ganker hates ff16 is because Ganker rightfully hates gays and trannies
The real reason is tendies finding an excuse, just like you will find another excuse to shit on FF9R, just like when xenobladefags ruined trails threads and mods started to ban the threads because a non nintendo game got too much attention
Bad news for you, the hate for this game is coming from normal people who can't stand gays.
Just remember that the World Health Organization considered being homosexual as a mental illness until 1991. They only changed it because of political interests.
If you really believe that we, normal people, don't hate gays and trannies like you, you are wrong. You and your ""kind"" make us normal people want to puke.
OH NO NO NO NO
I literally see more gay shit from tendies than Dion's character
Ganker loves chud gate. Ganker hates FFXVI simply because it's PS5 exclusive.
so is this a final fantasy thing or a sony thing or 6 of one half dozen the other?
Sony thing. Ganker wants to find reasons to hate it because it's PS5 exclusive, XVI mindbroke this board more than any other recent release. No one makes BG3 hate threads despite it being wokest game ever made for example.
>the wokest game ever
just because you took every oppurtunity to have gay sex, doesnt mean thats the standard route
>doesnt mean thats the standard route
>Hey wanna learn magic?
>What? You love hot women and sex?! Same dude!
>Wanna bang?
>she posts this when over half the threads on Ganker are bg3 and starfield
y*kes..
>liking those literal who unpopular homotrannies
So you're a child predator huh? What are you doing on Ganker?
Are you trying to groom children here? to gaslight anons?
You're so fucking disgusting btw, please please have a nice day you fucking creepy piece of shit
>tendie trying to force bg3 vs ff again
>tendies
Its snoys, they've been doing this with every major release
>Why would a game with a plot revolving around wizard slavery leave out black people????
That's like asking why a man would avoid stepping on a landmine
>Baldur's Gayte is loved by everyone though,
I'm about as die hard an rpg fan as you can get, and I uninstalled BG3 after 3 hours. It's fucking dogshit with inorganic praise and constant shilling. Just like DOS2
It's time for Nomura to save FF again.
>hates turnbased rpgs
>but claims to be a true ff fan
>even claims to like the classic games even though they clearly don't
Why is the modern FF """"fan"""" like this?
1, 3,4,7,9 and 10-2 are kino the rest are SLOP
Why don't you like 5? It's the best Final Fantasy.
Where did he say he hates them? He said they wanted to test a new genre to get zoomers, he failed so they will go back to turn based
>he
That post isn't referencing a single person but is referencing a group.
LGBTranime game
There isn't a single mainline FF to have a cultural impact since X.
All he had to do was not take sony's cock and release it on systems people actually own and PC.
>still seething 3 months later
>another bump limit thread
Tendies still mindbroken about this game
Jesus H christ, why can't pikmin threads have as much staying power as malding gays over a game they claim to """hate""" yet post about religiously every day months after its release?
See
Pure tsundere behaviour. Nintendo fans were even hyped at the idea of yoshida making a game for nintendo
If ff14 comes to switch nintendo fans will support it
>Lumionus makes everything look uglier in the final product.
many such cases
>this is what barry clang onto for the past year as proof Luminous was still being used
>looks like shit
Sad.
That looks better than FF16 models and facial animation, man they really should have used Luminous for FF16, it would have been so much better and has actual mesh deformation instead of FF16's shitty texture swapping.
>man they really should have used Luminous for FF16
Would have sold as many copies as flopspoken!
FFXV sold over 3x the amount FF16 sold and more than FF7R and FF16 combined but keep coping.
And if an enemy is far in the distance and you are holding O you will not run towards them, that only happens if you are soft lock range or are locked on, which you were BTFO on
>FFXV sold over 3x the amount
Thanks to being attached to nomura's vision.
Notice how tabata and LP can't seem to make anything that even sells 2 million copies since XV.
FFXV forever broke the brand loyalty of millions of players. That's legitimately impressive, and the only impressive thing about the game.
>XV broke it.
The triple whammy of the LR, base XIV/ARR and XV killed interest in the brand
>And if an enemy is far in the distance and you are holding O you will not run towards them, that only happens if you are soft lock range or are locked on, which you were BTFO on
the original conversation was about combos, we were talking about Noct's controls mid combat, not out in the field
how are you this stupid?
I wish you schizos put this much dedication into making threads about jrpg games
FF chuds deserve this level of harassment, same as falgtbicom
>Entire series outsold by FFXVI
Of course it was a xenotard
I liked how silent you Xenoschizos were when ToArise got a positive reception and good sales.
Lol 15 doesn't even have real magic or healing spells. It just used magic grenades and infinite potions. WoFF won
FF16 doesn't even have magic or MP or magic stats or elemental affinities it just has DMC guns reskinned
>deflects to 16
Jej WoFF won
Quads spoken
Lol
No wonder FF16 flopped
>BG3
Massive success, everyone loves it, multiple waifu threads everyday
>FF16
Massive Flop, everyone hates it, multiple hate threads everyday
Maybe, just maybe alienating the heterosexual male audience was a bad move?