>FF6 Remake is rumored
>FF7 Remake is ongoing
>FF9 Remake is confirmed
>FF10 Remake is rumored
>FF8 gets nothing
Why Square hates FF8 so much? It's the only FF in the list that deserves a proper remake.
>FF6 Remake is rumored. >FF7 Remake is ongoing. >FF9 Remake is confirmed. >FF10 Remake is rumored
It won't get remade because they don't know what to do with the awful gameplay. GF system sucked. Only things I liked from the game was Triple Triad. Soundtrack and Squall.
They would just FF7R it where they basically redesign everything from scratch
FF8's the one game you can do that with, though.
FF8 was unfinished as fuck, doing a rewrite or tacking shit onto FF8 would make perfect sense because the original story was riddled with plot holes and retarded handwaves.
Instead they decided to turn FF7 into an expanded universe where every single entry beyond the original release is embarrassing, fanfiction-tier slop.
You people people are fucking insane. What the hell are you even talking about? What plot holes? Where? When?
Meanwhile, IX has such glaring plot holes, they burn a hole in the screen. Did you literally forget that, in IX, the game ends with the world set to explode, then everyone just ignores it?
>the game ends with the world set to explode, then everyone just ignores it?
everything DID explode... you fight necron in the void and unto nothingness... guess you missed that part
Then they all show up happy in the ending
What potholes? Retard what about the big twist... Oh, everyone except Irvine had amnesia? And when they took him on a mission to kill their old caretaker he doesn't say anything because he thought it was 'weird.' And that's just one.
>Retard what about the big twist... Oh, everyone except Irvine had amnesia?
What's wrong with that?
>And when they took him on a mission to kill their old caretaker he doesn't say anything because he thought it was 'weird.'
They literally all agree to kill her even after getting their memory back.
Ff8r could benefit from that actually. Squall gameplay would be cool as fuck, time jannies would make more sense here and the filler would help to deepen other characters
They fucking invited the dmc guy to make FF16 but they should've given him a game like Dissidia
You could use FF7R gameplay as a basis for FF8R. Make every character unique just like they do in FF7R, and it would be different enough to justify it. They could make some cool stuff with the gunblade. Squall also has an action moveset in Kingdom Hearts.
>You could use FF7R gameplay as a basis for FF8R.
Having skills tied to GFs is the best thing about the system. If they would lean into the idea of them being equippable jobs with innate stat bonuses, instead of coming solely from junctioning magic, the game would play a lot better.
If they did that then I would take back all my hate.
FF8 is the PS1 era black sheep. The remaster didn't seem to sell much at all and got a lot of backlash, and the only reasons anyone remember the game is because of plus the Rinoa romance maybe. It's the FF2 for 90's kids in the west, and it never really got much care beyond Squall's popularity.
Well, the remaster was pretty awful. The new background textures were just blurry and terrible. The character models are hit or miss depending on the character.
filtered
more like got tired of playing with cards and not leveling up
At this point you don't even need the drawing system. Just do a REMAKE like with FF7 and turn it into an action game with the world's best card game side plot.
Let me duel Ultimecia you homosexuals. I'm not fighting the end of the world without my unstoppable EXODIA
Anon did you not see the shit they did to FF7?
They'll just make hack and slash magic drawing or some shit
GFs will be RNG bs low HP cutscene saves like ff15
Triple Triad will be a separate mobile pay to win game, and you need to pay real cash to get rid of Random.
>Laguna Jannies
stop
plot jannies unironically works in FF8 but Nomura/Kitase had to blow their loads with that idea
still mad
I don't play shitty remakes that aren't faithful to the original lol
If anyone has played Folklore on ps3 I think making drawing work like how sucking souls out of enemies does would be pretty sweet. Draw out of a bunch of downed enemies to finish them off with a bonus multiplier or something for doing multiple enemies in one "draw"
its literally their 3rd best selling title
when it comes to most profitable SE games, 7 8 10 etc all still pale in comparison to their 2 MMOs and Space Invaders royalties which is unironically their most profitable title i wish i was kidding
I feel like people who compare mmos to normal games are braindead
If i'm working in a live service for more than a decade, i believe it MUST be more profitable than games made in 2-5 years.
>I feel like people who compare mmos to normal games are braindead
>If i'm working in a live service for more than a decade, i believe it MUST be more profitable than games made in 2-5 years.
mmotards are just that stupid.
Profitable doesn't mean good. Here on Ganker we care if games are good.
FFXI literally saved the company from bankruptcy twice while 14 went thru development hell, then when it flopped on its initial release.
>Here on Ganker we care if games are good.
Biggest lie ever told on the internet
>awful gameplay.
Doesn't matter, they'd swap in their Diet Kingdom Hearts slop garbage mechanics from 7R anyway.
Guarantee you pre-order bonus would be a good card deck for TT
Fpbp, esp
>Triple Triad. Soundtrack and Squall
>FF8 doesn't have to suffer the remake fate and butchering of current Square-Enix
Good.
It's probably the only one that might not suffer from the remake treatment. Time jannies would make more sense in the context of the plot.
this, be grateful your favorite FF isn't being shat on
100%
its the most consistently shat on mainline FF. and they know this.
Cuz of gameplay. Story was pretty good.
Things after 9 got worse each time. Like 10 wasn't bad but it was pretty bad by 12. Then 13 came.
>Story was pretty good
I'm playing through 8 for the first time right now, and so far the entire plot has felt like a fever-dream of half-developed plot threads loosely tied together, this being up to getting to pilot Balam Garden in Disc 2. I will say that things are somewhat starting to pick up now, as additional details slot more into place, and I do think Squall is an entertainingly moody teenage lead, but its reputation as the black sheep so far is highly understandable to me.
>but its reputation as the black sheep
This is not a thing. Nobody thinks this outside of Ganker and a couple of aging e-celebs.
>Squall is an entertainingly moody teenage lead, but its reputation as the black sheep so far is highly understandable to me.
He is more of a teenager that has only lived his life as a mercenary. Cid make a point for him to see the world.
>That is why he makes Squall command the Garden
No that's, definitely XIII
After 2. Literally everyone hates 2 except professional contrarians.
It doesn't need one since it's perfect
You are one wholesome anon.
>Perfect
Not with the convoluted plot and that mindfuck ending it isn't
What mindfuck? lmao. It's just a closed loop time travel. Squall goes to the future. Squall defeats Ultimecia. Squall and Ultimecia meet Edea in the past, therefore start the chain of events that led to that point.
You're making that up. The game didn't explain shit what actually happened in the ending.
Yeah I am definitely lying to you, no doubt.
Anon are you retarded? What the hell
Fugg, meant for
I was almost going to enter into rage mode explaining that that pic just proved what I said. But then you rectified the reply
it's like the Dark series on Netflix (very good btw) - they exist in a universe that is paradoxical in nature, and since it is a paradox, they use time travel to continue the universe - knowing full well that it is false and should not exist.
theoretically is possible but time travel would need to exist
If you look up this specific scene from the remaster you'll notice that Ultimecia doesn't show battle damage because the devs were too lazy to make a second ingame model.
>convoluted plot and that mindfuck ending
anon anyone that's played FF games knows that they're all like this
name 1 FF game that doesnt have a fucking retarded story with a shit ending
1, 3, 4, 6, 7
I haven't played 5 in a while so I don't remember its plot
III, V, VI, TA
>name 1 FF game that doesnt have a fucking retarded story with a shit ending
This one and any FF game from Crystal Chronicles series
>name 1 FF game that doesnt have a fucking retarded story with a shit ending
1, 2, 4, 9, 10 and 12
True.
Final Fantasy VIII is the Final Fantasy for Artists.
SE does not have the Artistic Capital to remake this game.
Now that's what I call coping
Nah. Calling FFVII Remake good would be coping.
8 sucks
Final Fantasy 8 is the last bastion of games people actually still hate when they did in the past
Majora's Mask was hated. MGS2 was hated. Hipster and Zoomer revisionists changed that and now MM and MGS2 are seen as amazing.
FF8 is still hated and the last bastion of "this game actually sucks" that people aren't afraid to say
Majorca’s Mask wasn’t hated
LOL4DUNGEONS was a meme forever
dont be a revisionist
Yeah and then everyone loved the game anyway
It absolutely was on here at one point. You couldn't mention it without someone calling it Fedoras Mask or reddit.
Fedora's Mask came as a knee-jerk reaction to praise MM had been garnering in the background prior.
>Final Fantasy 8 is the last bastion of FF games Square hasn't raped beyond measure
FTFY enjoy your literal black mages
MM won game of the year
MGS2 lost out to GTA III a revolutionary game that changed the industry
FFVIII being hated is a zoomer meme.
>FF8 gets nothing
What?
>What
You could at least post something from FF8, and not Nomura's Dissidia fanfiction sketchbook. Whoever you posted wearing Squall's outfit looks stupid as fuck.
Error on my part, but the ff8 remake clashes too much graphically speaking.
You should feel lucky that your favorite one isn't having its rotted corpse dug up and raped by nuSquare
do it square you fucking cowards make R=U real dO IT FUCK
Final fantasy kinda sucks, huh?
The annoying thing is that FF8 is the only one of that list that is fundamentally unfinished with loads of plot threads that just go nowhere and heavy signs of a late plot rewrite/large parts of the story cut.
It's the only one that actually fits the idea of a pseudo sequel remake. It even actually works for FF8 unlike 7. Time jannies and 'sequel alternate timeline where things happen differently' works just fine in 8 which was already about time travel etc while it doesn't in 7.
It's a shame, I would love to see a 'finished' version of FF8 or at least another attempt at it. That said, I'm not confident modern Square Enix could do that in a satisfying way, so it's probably for the best.
>Same story except Rinoa does go evil and Squall has to kill her (or alternatively goes with her himself and Siefer ends up being the hero)
Would be a million times better and much more interesting than the inevitable 'what if aeris...didn't die?' we're going to get
>bulk of the world's armies are independent mercenaries
>the independent mercenaries are schizo brain damaged teenagers
>they all live on floating fortress high schools
>the most prestigious one is run by some goop monster secretly and has dinosaurs running around
>witches are genocidal disaster events
>teenaged mercenaries are actively making themselves more schizo by making pacts with monsters and demons
The world of FF8 is fucking awesome, it feels very unexplored. It would benefit greatly from a remake
Indeed it is. Even the little backstory over Hyne and magic is great that too many people miss.
This shit looks like so much ass.
It just doesn't fit the world.
It's a nice looking game honestly in the first place. Probably the best use of fmv/pre rendered backgrounds and art I can think of. The models themselves are probably the weakest part but they're more than enough and much better than 7's.
The original is better than the remake by far. Or maybe it is a nostalgia override.
>by far
It's pretty much the same fucking shit but with improved character models.
> improved character models.
You mean off putting and miss matched character models.
Imagine if the characters from Titan AE where suddenly 3D. Would you think that was good too?
I'm sorry, did I miss something along the lines where the original models were in 2D?
I am talking about overall quality not specific minute details. Get it?
No, I really don't. Seems like it's a nostalgia override to me. Pic related: remastered has better resolution on both background and character model. The character model is actually more detailed (visible eyes, hair shape, amulet in the chest actually has a shape). Both sides don't have anything that standoffs as offputting. But we could have this conversation all day, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
The new models don't mean much in the grand scheme of things because they fucked up not only blurring the backgrounds with a bilinear filter, but the extra detail to the characters with high-resolution rendering makes them break continuity with their surroundings more than ever. You say higher resolution graphics are better, I say they look like ass when left on raw PS1 backgrounds.
>he new models don't mean much in the grand scheme of things because they fucked up not only blurring the backgrounds with a bilinear filter
How else could they have approached this matter? If it's a remaster, and you don't have the same artists back then...?
>You say higher resolution graphics are better, I say they look like ass when left on raw PS1 backgrounds.
Not quite, but you can't deny that there was work done in it. When it comes to looking like ass, well it's not like the original graphics don't come with their ass looking moments as well
Everyone memes this because one artist made a meme of it. You wouldn't really think about how fucky it looks in the heat of things, especially given the whole CGI that immediately follows, and a CRT especially would be blurring that up.
It occurs over and over. His face looks like ass on the original game on a whatever monitor it was supposed to be played on.
And I have felt it in the heat of things, back when I was playing it in 2000. I remember seeing his ass face, during the Galbadia Garden invasion, when going back to the classroom in the second floor for example. And I was having a blast in that moment, with the epic music, with all the fighting.
The remaster background is blurrier and clashes with the high quality squall.
The original is sharper which better suits the sharp character models.
The blurriness makes the background less sharp and with more roundness (you know like things are supposed to be in real life), therefore it melds well with the high quality character model, better than the sharp background at least. Each scene blends well with what they're intended to do.
It is up to me to decide what I wanna focus on not you or the developers. If I wanna look at trees, I will. If I wanna look at the character, I will.
Likewise, I will get to decide what to focus on. Same goes for the developers actually, they're in their own right to decide on what to focus on. As long as you understand that, it's all good.
>they're in their own right to decide on what to focus on.
And if they remake something and make it an eye soar, I am in my right to point it out and criticize them. As long as you understand that, it's all good.
>I am in my right to point it out and criticize them
I never even placed that into question. But your... apparent irritation over the matter seems to imply that in fact you don't understand that developers are in their own right to focus on what they want to do. You can criticize them all you want, you have all the right to do so, but it doesn't invalidate that they are free to do things in their vision. Sorry, it works both ways.
>your... apparent irritation over the matter seems to imply that in fact you don't understand that developers are in their own right to focus on what they want
No, it is that the remake is shit and you are a tranny.
Prove me wrong.
>Sorry, it works both ways.
Oh no...
Yeah dude, I'm truly sorry. You need to grow up, grow a pair, and quit your whining. So the remake is shit and it's settled.
>Prove me wrong
How old are you?
>Yeah dude, I'm truly sorry. You need to grow up, grow a pair, and quit your whining. So the remake is shit and it's settled.
how does that support your argument? The remake is shit and so are you
me wrong
>How old are you?
Thanks for confirming my suHispanicion.
Nta but i'm looking forward to your reaction in the next months, probably years if im being honest.
My reactions to what? It doesn't pain me that they make trash, because the israeliteels from the past are still there.
You're butt mad because you can't prove me wrong either. Neither of us can, that's plainly obvious. That's why I asked how old are you. So you resorted to trying to get emotional responses out of me. You're just really whining at this point.
I did prove you wrong. You are just too prideful to accept.
Sorry, but you didn't.
ywnbaw
Good. I intend to keep it that way.
>>Good. I intend to keep it that way.
>Doubt
He made you start using buzzwords with one reply, he won.
>Sorry, it works both ways.
He started a sentence with "Sorry". He outed himself
I have no idea of what you meant, but you had to go "you're a tranny and the remake is bad"
Not a good posture to defend yourself.
>I have no idea of what you meant, but you had to go "you're a tranny and the remake is bad"
>Not a good posture to defend yourself.
No need to defend myself. That guy is a homosexual.
Why do you think ff8 remake is better?
I really dont know the context of the discussion or the situation you were talking about. I just saw a reply going "you're a tranny and the remake is bad" and joked about it because it's pathetic, i dont have horses in this race. Was it about the ff8 remaster?
>I dont have horses in this race.
Then your opinion means less then nothing.
Will you call me tranny too now? I always call everyone that when i'm not bothered
peak Ganker discussion, i had to ctrl f to see it.
lmaaao
The worst part is how it is a 30+ year old for sure. Guy started calling people tranny and said "prove me wrong"
that pic illustrates the issue pretty well
squall blends with the background on the left. i know it's mostly because of the psx resolution and whatnot, but the point is that the characters don't clash with the world. the level of detail on them and the world don't fight each other
squall on the right looks like when people import those really nice looking models in skyrim. take a glance at it and you know it doesn't belong
It belongs perfectly well. But I can see you have a trained eye. Good find there.
>It belongs perfectly well
poor choice of words back there, but you get the point
Sorry but
. I feel absolutely no clash on either scenario. But it's not like you can expect a miracle on this front. When you have backgrounds made by artists that don't work at Square Enix anymore, with tools that no one uses anymore, there isn't much that can be done. You say there's a clash, well you know what, maybe there is (in my eyes there isn't) but you complain about the blurriness when if you actually maintained the sharp backgrounds with the high resolutions, there would be an even bigger clash.
>improved character models.
they are worse, and made for mobile. Squall was replaced with dissidia garbage, and everyone else looks like noodle people, especially Rinoa. Censorship on her shirt btw.
Yes the original is better. Even the old PC version is better.
>they are worse, and made for mobile. Squall was replaced with dissidia garbage, and everyone else looks like noodle people, especially Rinoa. Censorship on her shirt btw.
You like to indulge in this kind of conversation because you know there isn't a correct answer. I will simply retort by saying that, when you say it's worse, it's not objectively true.
>Censorship on her shirt
First world problems. Not my problem.
I'll end this conversation by simply saying, that I own both the original and remastered versions. I enjoyed both. And there's nothing you can say to change my opinion about it.
>This shit looks like so much ass.
Here, the true way to play it.
quit posting this shitty cash grab full of shitty retconned models and blurry backgrounds
Isn't it beautiful?
Remakes fucking suck. 8 got an excellent remaster if you aren't a featherpube-obsessed coomer.
>8 got an excellent remaster
That's excatly how it looks in PSX
asshole
Because people were working for a long time to fix this shit in the original garbage PC port and the remaster is based off of said garbage PC port there's mods for it of some degree of effectiveness but regardless fuck you
The Remaster is Artless for many reasons. The models are simply the most glaring aspect.
Because it's dogshit.
what about old FF games like FF4?
it would look so good in 3d with todays graphics
It doesn't need a remake.
It's literally the only one that does
>remake a game that was already good
>its worse than the original
>dont remake games that were bad (like FF8)
>they remain bad forever
this, perhaps ff8 does need a remake
ff9 does too, holy balls have you tried playing the game? 25 second 3 camera pan intro for every single random encounter? boooooring
Square Enix knows that they can't sell a game without the nostalgia factor. I bet the FF8 remake would sell 2m copies or less
>FF9 Remake is confirmed
When did this get confirmed?
From Nvidia leak
Go see it for yourself
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-leaked-games-list-pc/
I think R = U is a more plausible fan theory than Squall's Dead.
God, that theory is retarded from the get-go
and i'm pretty sure the writer outright admitted Squall got hit in the shoulder and lived, i dunno what it is about 8 but retarded fan theories for this game in particular are the weirdest of the mainlines, rivaled only by the sheer mindbreak fanon people have cooked up because of X-2.5
>tfw no GF
ATTACK
Q=U is the most plausible.
>square so creativity bankrupted that they're shitting out remakes
least xvi was a new entry
XVI sucked. XV sucked. XIII sucked. XII sucked. XIV has single-handedly been keeping SE afloat.
>XII sucked
12 only sucked because it was called final fantasy, it SE gave it a new IP instead i think everyone would feel different about it
you esl fuck. it doesnt matter if the sequel games is good or not. it just shows that square is getting fucking lazy when they start remastering/remake their previous works
Because they can't make good new games. It's not even a matter of personnel, because the same people who made good games in the '90s are still there, but don't know how to make good games on modern systems.
VIII is the best game, and continues to filter the Artless to this day. It was well-recognized in its time and still is with the audience that matters.
Try being a FF5 fan then get back to me on that.
Us FFV Chad's know our game is the best one and needs no remake.
It's a win move you fucking idiot. I don't *want* modern Square to touch any classic FF game, seems to me like VIII is the only lucky one if anything.
I don't know anyone who's into FF8.
i can fix her
>Remake FF6
>Keep it 2D sprites
>Don't change anything
>Just flesh out the story and characters more
A man can dream right?
This
They either need to keep it as close to original with improvements...
...or go absolutely apeshot and FFVIR it to the nines.
No in-between.
PC + Mods > PS1 > Remastered > PC
What mods?
I haven't played it in a decade, but the main one was a mod to make the backgrounds HD, sort of like the FFIX one. Also, you used to have to mod the BGM so it wasn't midi shit, but I don't know if that's still the case or not.
There's hi-res textures and etc.
Plus one that restores PS1-quality music and FMVs
Combined with Chocobo World access and subpixel precision, the PC version is more convenient.
>endless space 2
I hope this never happens. The company got so fucking pozzed so quickly after getting a micro taste of success.
I've so fucking interest in naggers in space 2. They ruined endless dungeon 2 as well, and their civ clone was just straight up interracial propaganda pretending to be a videogame.
No fucking thank you. Go bankrupt.
>she was going to wear overalls and then Nomura said
>"i want a female character in a skirt and we don't have one yet"
>so she got her wacky overalls dress
>Squall could have picked a cute transfer student or his teacher
>instead he ends up with part of the whore trinity of old JRPGs
Squall done fucked up.
not popular enough to demand infection works
The ICBMs have EYES
FF8 Remaster's backgrounds look fucking disgusting and is in desperate need of a FF9 Moguri-style upscale mod.
They will, eventually. FFVIII is my favorite from PS1 days, all time unless you count FFXI.
I wouldn't mind a FF8 remaster where they keep most of the game the same but fix some issues it had like the retarded drawing system and the spells being used to boost your stats so you never want to use the spells. There's probably a lot to fix in the story too but I remember fuck all about it
>It's the only FF in the list that deserves a proper remake.
I don't like 8 that much but I agree. There's so much that could be improved on that I think it warrants another try. 7, 9, and 10 have their problems but all of them feel more polished than 8 does.
>Entire story of FF8 revolves around literal child soldiers
>Your party sans Rinoa consists entirely of war orphans who were conscripted into a military academy by your adoptive parents
>It's never once pointed out or analyzed in any serious context
Are you dumb? It's about the halcyon days of youth.
>Entire story of FF8 revolves around literal child soldiers
>Your party sans Rinoa consists entirely of war orphans who were conscripted into a military academy by your adoptive parents
>It's never once pointed out or analyzed in any serious context
IIRC Squall is greatfull for the Garden taking him in. I assume other Garden students are too.
So, what will it be huh
You could be a
>SeeD
or you could be a
>Sorcerer's Knight
Squall brought it upon himself. I feel no sympathy for the man reaping the result of his and the actions of his compatriots.
If he didn't want to become a child soldier he wouldn't have told his adoptive mother to raise child soldiers.
FF8 really takes the "teenagers fighting god" cliche to hilarious levels.
There isn't a single competent adult in the entire story. Laguna's party is reduced to slapstick even in their "serious" moments.
The garden is so fucked for help that even their teachers are teenagers
>FF8 really takes the "teenagers fighting god" cliche to hilarious levels.
Other than being very powerful how is the sorceress analogous to God?
>The garden is so fucked for help that even their teachers are teenagers
Are there any other underage teachers other than Questis?
>Other than being very powerful how is the sorceress analogous to God?
Very few times is "teenagers kill god" literally god
You don't get an even vaguely religious-boss until god of magic
That's just how life is on that planet. Every x amount of years pass and the moon decides to shit literal monsters down onto the planet which most people have no defence against, hence the private militaries being hired throughout the world. Then there's Esthar having to constantly hold back and monitor an ancient Sorceress so no time to help out. Shit is almost post-apoc tier.
HAHA THATS GUNDAM
Why would it be pointed out or analyzed? By who? Someone in the game? That's just how life is in the world. It's normal. It's not a "culture shock" to them. What because magic doesn't exist in our world should the NPCs be reacting to magic going "what the fuck?". Reminder zell got adopted and his parents let him go off to balamb to become a merc. It's every day life.
What is Naruto
Hurt me mommy
Wait there's an upgrade
i want her to tie me up and whip me like i'm her slave
>Hot for Teacher.mp3
>first fly straight at it
>then fly up and away
>just to then come straight down at it
Why not just fly in from higher above and come down?
they're like, monster missiles that seem to be intentionally striking at a bunch of different tactical spots at the same time compared to simply having missiles bunch together and go boom at one point
Itano circus
No need for a remake. It holds up better than 7 and 9.
>>FF6 Remake is rumored
You already got your mobile graphic shit remake and then a "pixel perfect" remake. How many more fucking remakes of the same game do you want? I hate you and everyone like you.
>How many more fucking remakes of the same game do you want?
I want SE to go bankrupt remaking remakes, it's simple really.
>I hate you and everyone like you.
bro i was preaching the end is nigh for like 20 years about how remaking ff7 would be the gayest shit for them to do and only a last ditch effort if they see the end of their company coming, don't hate us, hate the corporation that has raped your beloved franchise for everything its worth
>i was preaching the end is nigh for like 20 years about how remaking ff7 would be the gayest shit for them to do and only a last ditch effort if they see the end of their company coming
what i mean by this is Advent Children ruined everything, the writing on the wall was there, nobody believed me
I've said it all along, FFVII was only good because the hardware limitations of the PS1 constrained the nips from creating their total weeb fantasy. The blocky characters and text only script made it charming. It's the same thing with Lucas and the Star Wars prequels and digital releases of the originals.
Lucas opened up pandora's remake box and doomed us all i feel sometimes
>I want SE to go bankrupt remaking remakes, it's simple really.
Based as fuck in intent but sadly remakes make money so it's not a hassle for them to fully indulge straight remakes.
>remakes make money
for now, remaking the remake wont work forever, the cow's tit eventually goes dry, that's when SE will die
I fucking hope so but there's so much back catalogue and gacha homosexualry they can make that I don't think it'll work. Nostalgia has proven itself to be nigh infinite.
>Nostalgia has proven itself to be nigh infinite.
that will only work for so long though, zoomers don't care about half the shit millenials and boomers think are too big to fail, and who knows what generation alpha will be into
You are honestly more positive about this than I am. I genuinely think future generations will play the remakes and continue the cycle.
>I genuinely think future generations will play the remakes and continue the cycle.
i don't, i think its just a zoomer thing because they have to live in our shadows, speedrunning (literally) through the shit their parents grew up with because WW3 might start anyday and everything new is fake and gay
>Nostalgia has proven itself to be nigh infinite.
Once Millennials age into their 40s it'll end I think. Final Fantasy VII Remake did well because we were all in our early 30s or late 20s at the time.
You know Star Ocean 2 R is basically the remake of PSP version which is the remake of PS1, right? Just look how popular the game now
The remakes will always print money and you can't stop them from doing so
>Just look how popular the game now
How popular is the game?
Popular enough to have /vt/ keep shilling the game for weeks
So, 10M in sales.
3 million is already a huge profit for a low budget remake. You can't compared this to a massive flop like ff16
>The remakes will always print money and you can't stop them from doing so
while true, this doesn't mean the company will stay afloat or not be bought out, i'm not saying final fantasy will die, i'm saying SE will, just like Squaresoft did, and you could argue that SE is on life support
SE will remake all your childhood games in your lifetime and you are going to buy them. Like it or not.
GAY GAY GAY SISSY GAY GAY
>get shot like a literal bullet into outer space
Why is this so cool? Spaceships seem rather homosexual in comparison.
I want FF doing a setting like that again, nothing too much futuristic but enough to have space stations like that would be cool.
Like xenogears
> doesnt point straight up
INEFFICIENT
FF8 got a HD Remaster
Also the FF9 rumor has been going on so long that DD2 was actually been confirmed before it has
>FF8 got a HD Remaster
It's even worse PC port with Dissidia models than the original PC port.
the point was they bothered to do something that wasn't just a port, which is what the OP post was crying about
Just imagine nu-square doing a ff8 rmk.
Disgusting.
R = U
ACHOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sorry, I sneezed at your plebeian theory.
neckbeards on /vr/ proved Q=U like 6 years ago
officially debunked
Something I hate about all the post-PC ports, including Remastered, which was released on like four other platforms, is the lack of smooth inputs from the PS1 version.
See, Remastered is based on the PC version, aight? But that, like most fifth gen console games on PC, had its set of problems. Aside from lower quality assets, the game couldn't render individual elements at specific framerates. On PS1, the battle animations were capped at 15fps. However, all the menus and inputs still ran at 60fps. This ensured stuff that required precise input la Boost or Squall's Renzokuken had responsive controls. This technical bit was downgraded on PC by making the entire battle run at 15fps, which causes sluggish inputs.
These sluggish inputs were inherited by Remastered in all the platforms it released.
It sucks. The only exception is the standard menu were you look at junctions, items, options, etc.
By the by, all the FFX HD ports suffer from this issue, except the menus there run at 30fps, so it's not as bad.
You know it's because of Nomurautism.
XII switches places with XV and that's a very sensible list.
XI's ranking depends.
if you're talking base game or zilart then yeah B or C is fair
Chains of Promathia is top tier though. good waifus, hardest boss fights of any FF game and is hailed as having the best story of any FF game, easily S tier
>XI lower than XV
>XI lower than XIV
>XIV in S
>VI in S
remember to dilate tranny
XIV is a masterpiece.
Only if you like wow
>V not in S
>XI below XIV
>I not in S
>X in S
You're actually smoking rocks if you think FFVIII is better than FFV.
>not in S
lol
>XI below XIV
lmao
Go brush your teeth, anon. All that crack you're smoking can't be good for you.
It's wild because your complaints just get worse and worse, the first one is fine but then it just goes so fucking bad kek
Final Fantasy I is an excellent game and you shouldn't use its age as an excuse not to play it. I'll admit, my opinions on FFX and XI are unpopular, but they're my own.
FF1 does its job but there is nothing that stellar about it nowadays. It's relevant, sure, but i would never say it's S level. With later titles i can at least see it because they had more identity and started trying to do more with it. But of all the franchise FF1 would never be a top contender, and it's not a demerit, the series is just that good.
"You're wrong because"
> ok take
> awful take
> aborrorent take
> atrocious take
Takes a lot of effort to be like that. The weirdest one is how he puts ff1 on S just because it's classic and old.
V was worth playing once, but that's the best thing I can say about it. It has a fun job system, but so do a lot of games (Tactics Ogre, for instance). But none of the characters or story elements have any real impact.
>>FF9 Remake is confirmed
what?
It will get one, just after 7 and 10 because these will be remade first while 9 was given to some other team. People who pretend 8 isnt top 4-5 most popular ff games are kinda stupid.
Remaking 8 is hard because no game will get the 7 treatment, and 9 is easy because they can make everything chibi. 10 just needs a remake in the style of demons souls remake
8 would need to be completely redone like 7.
Yep, remaking each FF is 10x harder than remaking a RE like Capcom does because the ambition in each one of these games is absurd.
I wouldnt even be surprised if they stop after 7,10 and 9
7 and 10 because they are the biggest ones and 9 because it's the easiest one to remake.
the remake would be terrible and they couldn't rely on goodwill like FF7 has to carry the sales even if they fucked it up
cuz they literally lost the FF8 source code during the Enix merger.
the filing cabinets where they had it printed out and stored in were thrown out
FF VIII is a Napoleon story. They are perfectly aged for war, as they match with all the best youths who did such a thing. See also Alexander's age.
>playing FF7R after people rave about it
>it just feels wrong
I donno, I played 7 pretty recently and this doesn't feel like how I envisioned a 7 remake to be. A lot of people say the plot and characters are exactly what they envisioned but all of them just feel like exaggerated versions of themselves. Like they're tonally a little bit off. Like shadows reflected by sunlight.
7R was kind of weird but mostly ok
Could be bullshit since it's not out yet but 7R2 looks like it'll be amazing
Yeah but I'm really bothered about how most people say the cast is exactly how they envisioned Cloud, Tifa, Barret, Aerith to be but in my head from what I played from 7. They don't match at all. It feels like the American adaptation of what I played.
Cloud's an autistic wannabe, tifa's genki, barret's loudmouthed and brash, and aerith's a (relatively) demure girl but wants to do other shit.
Well yeah that's how remake kinda shows them but in the original it was a bit more subtle. Except Barret I think they actually toned him down a bit compared to the original.
>but in the original it was a bit more subtle.
when's the last time you played 7
other than them now having actual voices rather than just text it's the same they've been
hell cloud was mired in being an edgelord vincent clone for a good while because of advent children and kingdom hearts, he's more himself than ever in remake
Last year. No way they're the same.
i replayed 7 immediately before the remake to compare the two, and of all the things that could be different their characters are not one of them
I feel like you're gaslighting me hard. The dialogue in FF7R is way more cheesier.
>The dialogue in FF7R is way more cheesier.
You can’t be serious
That's just you.
Can someone else post if Tifa felt a lot different in the remake? I think her and Aerith has definitely changed quite a bit since the OG.
>Why Square hates FF8 so much? It's the only FF in the list that deserves a proper remake.
It's the 4th worst mainline game
>flawed game
>never gets remade and tweaked
>perfect game
>gets remade and they shove their dick in everything
Make it make sense
Quite frankly, it wasn't that good.
Stop it with the fucking remakes already
>Doubt
Not my problem
>Not my problem
Your own hubris is your problem
>Will you call me tranny too now? I always call everyone that when i'm not bothered
start a sentence with "Sorry" and I will.
>Your own hubris is your problem
Fuck off nagger. I am the biggest man alive and you know it.
The fuck you saying? I didn't even find Ganker until 2016?
Oh you know, just exploring the depths of the prideful problem >657650008
What?
>mindbroken
topkek
What?
Huh?
What was that?
>>FF6 Remake is rumored
Need some sauce on this one, anon.
>>FF8 gets nothing
Because seven ate nine... (BlLL G4T35 joke) (also, the vax is poison)
>Laguna was just too busy for Squall to be a father.
>This ended up making Squall have huge abandonment issues.
LMAO.
LMAOOOOOOOOOO.
One of the best things about FF is how it does the personal issues related to family really well. Tidus' relationship with Jecht is also really well done.
What happened to that FF9 tv show? I mean megaman kiddy tv show came out and nobody talked about it.
Nah this was a huge swing and a miss. It was obvious they were meant to kill Laguna but they didn't have time to finalize Laguna story so they kept him alive.
>What happened to that FF9 tv show? I mean megaman kiddy tv show came out and nobody talked about it.
It was supposedly canned, a doc like that doesn't get put out into the wild if the show ever gets off the ground.
>>FF6 Remake is rumored
Its not a rumor about "it being made", but an actual statement that theres tons of people interested in a remake inside SquareEnix, but the idea of adapting everything on 3D is intimidating
>FF9 Remake is confirmed
Where?
>FF10 Remake is rumored
Where?
Not OP but FF10 remake was mentioned by the same guy who said FF7R is being ported to Switch 2.
was Squall a chad?
The essence of Chad Thundercock stems from Squall Leonheart, and I am very much like Squall Leonheart, the biggest man alive.
What chad does even mean?
If you're thinking as someone who goes through extreme development and grows as a person, sure. But if you're talking about a character that is super cool and baddass from the start, probably not because squall is kinda weird.
Yes.
Cough cough.
Ahem.
Squall and Selphie should've been OTP.
I'm wondering if the ff9 remake is going to be announced at the TGA, it has obviously been delayed but kitase himself talked how they would have many FF news not related to FF7 this year.
The year is ending...
But at this rate Rebirth is so close that i wonder if they will wait after its release.
I would wait if i were them. In 3 months FF7 releases and they will be free to promote other games.
>they will be free to promote other games.
Not in front of 100M people like at TGA.
Yes but you need to realize how their priority right now is Rebirth, and it's probably the most expensive title too between it and 9 remake.
I can see them doing a teaser, but i dont think it would be smart to put a big new trailer when you're releasing other title in 2 months.
I don't see how FF9R would take away any of Rebirth's steam.
>HOLY SHIT! IT'S THAT FF HIPSTERS LIKE WITH NO RELEASE DATE! FUCK THAT TWINK CLOUD'S GAME, I'M SELLING MY PS5 NOW
I dont even think it's taking away, but you want people to be focused in that one thing.
And SE probably thinks that way too because FF7R vanished until 16 released, it only reappeared around 2 months after 16's release.
>FF7R vanished until 16 released, it only reappeared around 2 months after 16's release.
In 2022, Kitase held a 25th FF7 Anniversary event where he showed off 4 different FF7 games.
As you said mid 2022, 16 released in mid 2023. More than one year apart.
Rebirth is releasing in 3 months.
FF7 had basically no news in 2023 until 16 released.
It's not so much taking away steam but rather they want all focus and discussion on the title coming out first rather than the second. Remember companies pander to the youtube/twitch crowds now. They need them doing free marketing for them.
So, let's imagine being in the place of a youtuber/streamer that's interested in shilling FF games lol. You think they're going to choose to fanboy over the announcement trailer of FF9R instead of the FF7 Remake game in full marketing push that is coming out in 3 months?
What's the difference between a potential FF9R announcement trailer shown off 3 months before Rebirth and Rebirth showing off a gameplay trailer at the Summer Game Fest 3 weeks before FF16 dropped.
That's why i said i could see a reveal happening at most, they probably put a ff7r trailer there because people already knew it was a thing and were expecting it.
But it would be like ff7, a trailer then it would vanish until after february.
>there because people already knew it was a thing and were expecting it.
People have known about the FF9R for over 2 years. Kitase's non-FF7 FF tease earlier this year seemed like a huge tease of the open secret that is the FFIX Remake. Google "Final Fantasy 9 Remake" and there are plenty of articles about it.
Yeah bro unconfirmed leaks are the same thing as a sequel to a game released in 2020, are you being serious.
SE has no obligation of showing anything about 9 remake because it wasnt revealed yet.
SE has no obligation to do anything except make money for its shareholders and have you been paying attention to the leaks? Does FF9R have to be the last game not announced before you believe them?
Sorry. I know Jake has a sketchy reputation. These sources are better.
https://gamerant.com/next-final-fantasy-games-remakes-9-10/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/17otgpl/ff9_remake_summer_2024_or_laterff10_remake/
https://www.xfire.com/final-fantasy-9-remake-delayed-2025/
https://www.pockettactics.com/final-fantasy-9-remake/release-date
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/a-final-fantasy-9-remake-is-currently-in-development-reports-claim/
https://fandomwire.com/square-enixs-final-fantasy-ix-remake-first-details-revealed-and-big-changes-lie-ahead/
https://mynintendonews.com/2023/07/06/jeff-grubb-reconfirms-final-fantasy-ix-remake-in-development-at-square-enix/
https://screenrant.com/final-fantasy-9-remake-ff9-timeline-rumors-leaks/
Anon, his point wasnt how the guy is lying or telling the truth, but how it doesnt matter, if the company doesnt say anything official they dont need to say anything lol
If the company doesn't say anything official, the company doesn't have to say anything. It sounds like he's saying, if SE doesn't say anything, they didn't say anything. Is that it?
>grabblers and those that gall victim to tham.
I don't know what any of that means. Google tells me "grabblers" is something people from SE America say.
>SE has no obligation to do anything except make money
I know how you feel. It is okay to be mad at grabblers and those that gall victim to tham.
and how many years has it been since this leak? those projects are probably scrapped if we haven't seen anything by now.
It's been 2 years. The Nvidia Leaks happened in September 2021.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-leaked-games-list-pc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/pndwey/definitive_compilation_of_leaked_geforce_now/
https://gamerant.com/nvidia-geforce-now-leak-2021-games-right-wrong-released-so-far/
Do you see the green check marks next to the games? Those games were either announced or have released. The ones without green check marks are the ones that haven't been released yet.
wow. it's only been 2 years. It feels way longer. but yeah, I know those projects are greenlit, and tomb raider isn't happening. so it's possible that those that haven't happened yet, are also not happening, right?
So, there's leaked list of unannounced SE games that comes from Nvidia back in 2021 and in the 2 years since, 5 of those games are announced and released, but you think the remaining 2 (excluding Tomb Raider) are unlikely to be real.
I didn't say they're not real, but there's a possibility those projects are also terminated or dead in the water.
zoomers don't remember FFv13
I think the same logic applies. All the other games (except TR) were announced or released. Why would FF9R or FFTR be any different?
>Why would FF9R or FFTR be any different?
see
Final Fantasy Versus XIII wasn't leaked by Nvidia and its cancellation was publicly denied by Square Enix.
https://kotaku.com/rumor-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-is-dead-update-5927645
https://kotaku.com/square-enix-confirms-the-existence-of-final-fantasy-ver-5928488
Remaster. Maybe like Tactics Ogre Reborn.
They're remaking final fantasy tactics? Why? The war of the lions is great, they should just port it to modern systems.
FF9R and FFTR could potentially become FF17 is what i'm saying when i bring up FFv13, never trust SE
Speculation is fun, but you have to explain it. If FF9R and FFTR were cancelled, why where they and how would they become FF17.
>If FF9R and FFTR were cancelled, why where they and how would they become FF17.
if they are never officially announced they aren't cancelled, their assets get rebranded so something else, that's how they become FF17
They're cancelled if they were in production and were cancelled. Otherwise, how would they become FF17 if they never existed? And why were they cancelled and how do they become FF17?
games evolve over time, sometimes even go under name changes, the framework of the game could still be there and all thats changed is the assets, i dunno, your response got me all how much wood can a wood chuck fuck and suck
If two game development projects at SE, named Final Fantasy IX Remake and Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster, evolved into FF17, then they were cancelled in favor of making FF17. And if the framework of the game is still there, then when FF17 is announced and it looks a whole lot like a FF9R remake and an FFTR, we'll know they were cancelled and folded into FF17.
I mean, do you have an example of a video game you're thinking of that evolved or went through name changes over time?
>I mean, do you have an example of a video game you're thinking of that evolved or went through name changes over time?
FINAL
FANTASY
VERSUS
XIII
zoom?
Versus XIII was cancelled and turned into FFXV. If you think FF9R and FFTR have gone through the same thing Versus XIII did, then they were cancelled.
>One source tells Kotaku that Final Fantasy Versus XIII was officially cancelled within the last few weeks. The decision impacted morale at Square Enix and staff were reportedly saddened by the move.
>Square Enix, this source added, has also decided to let Final Fantasy Versus XIII die quietly on the vine and fade away, instead of officially announcing its cancellation. This would likely be due to the fact a public acknowledgement of a Versus' cancellation could impact things like Square Enix's stock prices.
>Versus XIII was cancelled and turned into FFXV. If you think FF9R and FFTR have gone through the same thing Versus XIII did, then they were cancelled.
ok, they were cancelled, that's not the point i'm trying to make though, just trying to say SE doesn't have the best track record
SE's track record with the list of games from the Nvidia Leak has been almost perfect and FF9R or FFTR haven't been announced unlike Versus XIII. Two different elements that are different than what happened with Versus XIII.
yea but, they're still like a shitty company man
Bro, you're telling me.
Doesn't mean it makes much sense to doubt a nearly perfect track record from the Nvidia leak, the Kitase tease from earlier this year, the FF9 teases from Paolo's youtube video of SE, the FF9 collabs in Ever Crisis and War of the Vision, and the confirmation of the project by people like Jeff Grubbs. Much less bank on the idea that FF9R and FFTR were folded into FF17 just because Versus XIII turned into FF15, despite different circumstances.
So, that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 different pieces of evidence suggesting FF9R will be announced soon and TGA makes a lot of sense.
SE sure is in a tight spot because Jake Skudder wrote about ff9 remake in 2021.
Dude the most basic aspect of the game industry is how companies have no obligation of doing or saying shit for the fans if they dont announce it.
This is actually the most basic lesson many of them learned because their biggest mistake was announcing things too soon and getting fucked after. Cyberpunk is the proof of that.
I know you really want this because you're constantly doing mental gymnastics to justify how SE is obligated to reveal it, but the truth is that they simply dont need to until they feel like it. It isnt a journo saying something that will make the average audience feel like SE owes them something, only people like you will go that route.
The most basic aspect of the game industry is to make video games and make money. I have no idea why you think SE has an obligation to make FF9R just because FF9R was leaked in the Nvidia leaks 2 years ago. I think SE is going to make FF9R to make FF9R just like SE made all those other games in the leak. And Cyberpunk wasn't made by SE.
I never mentioned obligation. The first time that word showed up was in your post. It sounds like you do not think FF9R will be the game Kitase teased at the beginning of the year, but you also do not think FF9R exists at all.
And just to be clear, you think all the talk about the FFIX Remake since it was listed among the SE titles in the Nvidia leaks is all fake? Or disconnected from real FF/FF9 fans? I don't even think the "average audience" cares about SE games. FF fans do tho and they're well aware of a FF9R that was part of the Nvidia leaks. That's an open secret.
This is where you misunderstood me, i do think FF9 remake exists and that it is the game kitase wanted to announce this year. But i also think their plans were derailed somehow and have no idea if they will continue as they were.
And disagree that a journo making reports about 9 remake pressures SE in the slightest to reveal it.
>But i also think their plans were derailed somehow and have no idea if they will continue as they were.
Alright. Why?
>a journo making reports about 9 remake pressures SE in the slightest to reveal it
Where was this said?
>Alright. Why?
Because they said it would have many FF news not related to ff7 and there werent many this year. Things like Ever Crisis having a FF9 event right now from nowhere makes me believe the game was supposed to be announced at this point too.
Not only that, SE is also doing some other specific 9 related
>it would have many FF news not related to ff7
Alright. Let's do some basic citation work. Find the statement by SE where they say this. Because I have a statement by Kitase, the Final Fantasy Brand Manager, who says there is an announcement. Singular. Not "announcements"
>There’s also another big announcement unrelated to Final Fantasy VII that I can’t say anything about just yet.
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/12/yoshinori-kitase-teases-big-final-fantasy-announcement-for-2023
https://na.finalfantasy.com/topics/411
>Things like Ever Crisis having a FF9 event right now from nowhere makes me believe the game was supposed to be announced at this point too. Not only that, SE is also doing some other specific 9 related
Why would these things have to come after an FF9R announcement? Why couldn't they happen before?
lol, you're obsessed.
Took you this long to realize. I noticed when he said a journo was making SE obligated to reveal FF9 remake. Sometimes you find guys like this one here. He's going full autistic.
>I noticed when he said a journo was making SE obligated to reveal FF9 remake
No one said this in the thread. The first time anyone mentioned "obligation" is this post:
>SE has no obligation of showing anything about 9 remake because it wasnt revealed yet.
Just going by the last few FF entries they really only like to promote one at a time. This is bad for any smaller FF games as they get bugger all marketing in comparison to their numbered counterparts if they happen to release around the same time.
I think these games kinda help each other because they all motivate people to get interested in other titles. But if they are major titles i do believe they should wait a bit o have a better marketing cycle.
It also balances the gap between games. No reason to release all at the same time then spend years without any major release.
Indeed. I think they've slowly learned that lesson. WoFF came out very close to XV and got overshadowed unfortunately. Whereas SoP released with no major FF releasing around it so it got better marketing and attention.
I really like how they've improved their development cycle with FF. We're getting something every year.
I agree.
FF8 needs to have an entire disc's worth of content added to it. More moments with Squall and Rinoa, their romance seems so tacked on.
And remove level scaling.
FF7R fucking sucks so im actually happy they wont taint my fav FF
they will, give it 5 years, once AI learns how to code they'll be pumping out remakes like fast food slop, you aint seen nothing yet
It's a timeless masterpiece. A remaster is redundant.
If the remaster/remake is redundant that means the remaster/remake is perfect as well
and before any of those gets finished.
FF 4 gets another remake
plus The After Years remake
in addition another spinoff
Nobody cares about FF4 not even the fandom.
People cared about FF4 before TAY. The After Years unironically killed its legacy. Don't be surprised if the rest of the FF7 remake shit does the same thing.
Exactly Anon, but Squeenix still thinks that's what the fans want. So we're going to see Cecil go to the fucking moon again for the hundredth time.
>expecting companies pleasing you instead of doing it on your own
After playing FF7R, I like to smoke some weed and play other FF/old jrpgs while fantasizing about a Remake with action combat and all
I just want a SoP2 with actual FF/Amano aesthetics
>FF10 Remake is rumored
Really? It doesn't need one, it's not like FF7 where it looked like shit. And obviously it didn't end up being a remake anyway so Squenix can go fuck itself.
Its popular.
It's my favorite video game. There's nothing a remake could do to improve it.
Tell that to Capcom. They still went and remade RE4 for absolutely no reason.
Its not about "making it better", this is the fundamental issue in that posture: nothing will ever replace the originals. We enjoyed them back in the day, we enjoy them (more or less) today, or at least we keep good memories of them. A remake is nothing more than a re-imagination, a fresh take on an intellectual property, it might do some things better, it might do others worse, but it can be enjoyed as an expansion of the original concept without taking away anything from the original release
ff9 remake never got confirmed you stupid homo
Every day that goes without a FFVIII remake being announced I thank god for preventing Rinoa-Ultimecia from becoming canon.
8 is nowhere near as good as the other ones listed
That's why it needs a remake
this
tired of remakes, even more tired that all the remakes are of games that were already good and didn't need to be remade
and the games that need remakes don't get them
a remake won't help unless they rewrite the story. Massive story changes are needed
Like 7R? Please no
Don't let Kitase touch messing with the original story
It's another Oblivion you get wesker as you level up bullshit, tummy > I cum buckets
IX is by far my favorite, and I'm happy to hear it is getting the remake treatment.
I still felt like 8 was the weakest PS1 entry. The story made little sense, and the GF / Draw / Junction system wasn't great. Which is why I am very confused about them skipping a remake of it. I feel like this one would benefit the most of having a 2nd chance.
Triple Triad can stay though.
Yet FF8 has most soul regards the setting, character design and music. Fuck this gay earth.
>FF8 gets nothing
you mean
>FF8 gets to be untarnished
which is the best thing they can do to honor it
I can't wait for all of these remakes to insert time jannies to innevitably retcon major character deaths.
8 needs a remake way more than 7 and 9
Go make it.
Be grateful that your favorite FF hasn't been dug up and soiled like they did with FF7. A remake will never be anywhere near as good as the game you love so much. Look deep into your heart. You know it's true. Just enjoy the memories and the fan mods of the original.
Hope you get over it one day, old man.
They already did part of FF3 in jack's kino and there was the DS remake too.
Plus Rebirth (at least, in trailers) looks great.
>Fan mods
7R might have an assload of issues but they are nothing compared to the retardation that is new threat and every other FF7 mod. I could understand not liking the "remake" but anyone who defends those isn't worth the oxygen they're using.
It's already perfect, anon
as an FFVII fan, you should count your blessings
Remake sucked shit, despite it being the first time SquareEnix got action RPG combat somewhat ok excluding Kingdom Hearts.
You don't want Nu-Square to fuck up VIII
I wish VII never got this stupid Alternate Universe, plothole filled, ESG-pandering, fanfiction bullshit "remake"
No one wants an FF8 Remake. FFVIII fags are just desperate to have a reason to congregate.
Call me crazy, but if i had my way i would want a FF9 remake with FF12's combat and overworld, cool things never happen though
lmao, the ff9 fags are by far the most schizo section of all the ff fandom because they are some weird traditionalists. Even worse than the usual jrpg boomer. This would kill them.
bro i loved FF9, but going back to it is a fucking slog, that combat intro just kills me every time, and then 9 times out of 10 the random encounter is over in 1-2 inputs, takes like 2 minutes to fight a battle that required you to select attack twice, fucking kill me
FF12 version of FF9 would be fucking kino though, but it will never happen, not in this dimension or timeline at least
I know, my point is just how it would kill the average ff9 boomer, but they will complain about the remake anyway, so they could do it.
i would unironically retire from piracy if they remade FF9 with FF12's combat
>FF9 Remake is confirmed
No it isn't
The amount of shills wanting remakes is astounding to me.
>ff6 remake
>more characters can die through your actions and choices
this is all i ask
>sabin dying if you take too long
>edgar can die if you decide to go for the loot
>relm can die if you fuck up the painting fight
>strago can still join the team if you bring him relms headband or brush
>umaro can randomly turn on the team and run away
>cyan will be found dead by suicide if you take too long
people are missing the point
yes ff8s story revolves around teenagers being moody n shit
because you, as a player, were one too around the time it released
To be fair a lot of the time people act retarded or straight up disingenuous when discussing a games's narrative here, so you need to know when to engage in discussions.
because its a dogshit game that ruined the legacy 6 and 7 created, only contrarian newfags with no taste like it
Fatass
Hah I wish we lived in a world where misunderstood games that COULD be good with some major re-imaginings to how their gameplay could work would be great.
Games like Resident Evil: Zero, Final fantasy VIII, Devil May Cry 2. Games that had lots of good charms, but fell flat gameplay wise. they could do ALL kinds of things to expand upon FFVIII's GF and junctioning systems. Revamp and modernize it while giving a greater amount of people who have never played the original an opportunity to enjoy the music, stories and characters of these games, with out having to endure the garbage gameplay design decisions.
>>FF9 Remake is confirmed
it's been deconfirmed LMAO 9 fags in shambles
Good.
8's story was an absolute fucking mess.
>The romance is shit even though it's central.
>Time shenanigans.
>Sorceress / knight bs.
>The "children at war".
>WAR theme is seriously badly treated.
>The infamous Orphanage twist.
>NORG.
>Want to slap Laguna and the autists with him.
The only good theory about the plot has been debunked by the writers ultimately condemning 8's plot to become one of the worst of ANY game ever.
Ofc Teenagers revolve around love you Idiot
It's one of the most critically acclaimed, best-selling games in the entire franchise. It outsold FFVII in Japan and sold like 8.5 million copies on a single system. It's unarguably better than
>every NES Final Fantasy
>every PS3, PS4, and PS5 Final Fantasy
and most of the ones in-between.
Yes, this is the case.
VIII is the best FF, despite what the current "online consensus" is in some places. Remember: Many of these people listen to hip hop. Many of them play MMOs. These are not tasteful people.
Wow an FF8 thread lasted this long?
Whatever
I'd be genuinely interested to know which Final Fantasy game has the most threads on Ganker behind XIV and VII. It's gotta be between VIII and X.
>every franchise is floundering indefinitely
>endless remake trash that people say is better than the original and then forget about by the end of the month
>no end in sight
did Seifur and Rinoa...
NO! Seifer would never! He’s pure and chivalrous. Like a knight.
He was too busy telling her about the incredible plot and themes of The Sorceress' Knight for that
Definitely railed that shit and Squall was the guy who she got to settle down with. It's a very common tale with women.
All women.
>I love something
>why won't someone ruin it
If only this mentality had a name...
Remake it, but remove the need to Draw spells and spam summons.
It was my first ff and still my favourite. Or I should say that I hate it less than other ones because they all kinda suck.
(mostly) agreed. 9 is dogshit and should be forgotten. 10 is modern enough. 6 is always awesome, but a remake could be epic.
>The DS remakes of 3 and 4 apparently don't sell well enough so they can them
>Bravely Default sells a lot more than them
>Intentionally sabotage the series to the point where no one gives a fuck about it anymore
Someone at squeenix actively hates final fantasy, I can only hope whoever it is dies a painful death
>FF7 Remake is ongoing
This isn't technically correct since it's a sequel series more than an actual remake.
Fine. You get your monkey paw wish.
>FF8 remake! Yay!
Except...
>episodic """remake"""
>time jannies
>30 hours of Balamb Garden, final boss is Ifrit to pass your SEED exam
>for no reason, here's Sephiroth!
Happy now?
why are FF women so less attractive than real japanese jyouseis?
It's a very simple to understand catch 22.
The games that are good/great and are in least of need to have a remake get remade because they are proven success.
The games which are worse and in most need of a remake don't get remade because, they performed poorly and would be deemed a substantial financial risk.
>FF6 is a great game full of interesting characters
>FF7 is a good game full of mostly interesting characters
>FF9 is a great game full of mostly interesting characters
>FF10 is a great game full of some interesting characters
Then...
>FF8 is a painful slog, watching the two worst main characters ever try to fall in love despite having no chemistry and the game just going "LOL SHES PUSHY AND HE'S STANDOFFISH - IT WORKS OKAY"
I will say that Zell, Quistis and Selphie are all good characters, but Squall and Rinoa are fucking horrible to watch. When they're in their 30's they'll fucking hate each other and one will kill the other by 35.
FF8 is a combiation of western TV drama mixed with anime
You need to born in 90s to get the appeal
>he likes the flat boring one dimensional characters
>he doesn’t like Squall, the most well developed protagonist in this entire franchise
>FF9 is a painful slog, watching the two worst main characters ever not fall in love despite being tropes and the game just going "LOL SHE MISSED HIM BUT NEVER WENT LOOKING FOR HIM - IT WORKS OKAY"
FF8 sucked eggs
Would the game have been better received if it were translated properly?
Right is better though. Squall is fucking boring in the Japanese script,
This dude always posts this for IX as well and it's similar there. In the JP script Zidane waxes on poetically like any anime character while he sounds like a ruffian bum in the EN script. Maybe it comes off different if you're actually reading the original JP.
localizers in the 90’s
>I have to turn this boring ass shounenshit script into something memorable while also cutting it down due to space limitations and dodge NoA censors
localizers today
>I have to add trannyshit to “fix” this script and get applauded by my tranny friends.
You wanna know why people love XIV’s story? Because it’s translated and localized like a game from the 90’s. No one would rate it if they actually knew just how fucking bland the Japanese script actually is.
It doesn't need one. It's already perfect
>FFIX remake confirmed
source? please squeenix leave that game alone
I just want Final Fantasy Tactics on Steam.