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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Redemption is kino

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DID SOMETHING HAPPEN BETWEEN YOU AND TIFA?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yuffie

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ? But she's alive?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No I'm not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up Jenova Aerith speaks Japanese

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I unironically loved Dyne's death, especially the JP va.

          >playing FF in japanese

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >playing weebshit in weeblanguage

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can't do it in English. Aerith and Yuffie's english voices make me want to peel my skin off, which is a shame because Cloud and Barret are so good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not playing the game with voice acting that were personally directed by the devs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >playing a JRPG in Japanese
            Yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shes dead in one world, alive in the other, with lifestream Aerith in general flitting around behind the scenes. Aerith has to die in each World for it to be saved, as she has to be in the lifestream to invoke the lifestream against Meteor at the end of the game. Cloud can see/be conscious in multiple Worlds at once due to Seph's "blessing", which is why he sees the Saved Aerith in the ending cutscene (with the Rift overhead showing she is in a doomed world) while the rest of the party does not see a rift because they only see the world where Aerith died after activating Holy (and thus the World will be saved). Seph is going around other Worlds killing Aerith before she can activate Holy.
      They are doing a bit of misdirection with Cloud being delusional; he IS just as crazy as he is supposed to be, but the Aerith he sees is real.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never played ff7 but this sounds convoluted and moronic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even if you played FF7 it would not be enough to explain my theory. You only get the explanation about what happens in the end from the official game guide for the game, that was only ever published in Japanese. Which is why the vast majority of people that played FF7 are clueless about what actually happens in the ending cutscene.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is. Thats why its not what happened. Cloud is just mega schizo and thinks he created a world where he saved her. But its all just a giant cope for when he gets completely mindbroken in the crater.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        damn finally another anon who actually understands the ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is she tho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ultimania will explain his weird smile, right?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could Cloud beat Tifa in a pure fist fight?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. There's a reason Tifa didn't appear in the 3d brawler. They couldn't program in a perfect opponent that wouldn't lose.

      >picrel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I better be able to do this in part 3 or it's a shit game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Only Sabin can match Tifa's absurdity.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if they remake 6 I better be able to suplex that frickin train

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's too much of a meme that they wouldn't dare not include it. Probably as the big end of battle cutscene where Sabin has enough of this shit and just suplexes the whole damn train.
            I'd not be shocked if we get something similar with Tifa in the Diamond Weapon right.
            These are just fan service games after all.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad Max theory discussion has fizzled out so we can get back to ship wars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Max is only for lorelets. I stopped paying attention to him years ago when everyone else was way ahead of him on analysis after Remake.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who do you recommend checking out instead of Max

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No one really, check out a bunch of people, play the game, think about things and learn the lore yourself. Max's problem is that he knows little about the Compilation because he does not like it, but the Remake project pulls from not only the entire Compliation but things outside the compilation as well, and that limits his understanding of things. One place you could start is
          https://www.youtube.com/@schrodingersbabyseal/videos
          who has a lot more indepth knowledge of the lore than Max does. If you want theory about Rebirth, watch his twitch vods. I would also caution you to wait a bit about theorys in general, as the Rebirth Ultimania will cause those to change, it comes out in April but will have to be translated, then dev interviews will come out later in the summer, and that will change things as well. People were wrong/unaware of a lot of things for several months after the release of Remake.
          If you want to read the specific lore I referenced in my post:
          https://thelifestream.net/novels-novellas/the-maiden-who-travels-the-planet/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            to add a bit, realize that people give credit to Max for theories he did not come up with, but were communicated to him. I do not think Max himself is taking credit for them, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm glad Max theory discussion has fizzled out so we can get back to ship wars
      >implying

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ending was good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I unironically loved Dyne's death, especially the JP va.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are happiest when together

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tries to set Cloud up with Tifa so he can move on with his life when she dies
      >"don't fall in love with me"
      >also drags him out on cute dates, takes selfies with him, brings out his true personality, holds his hands and confesses she really likes him in their last meeting
      >all but assuring she will always be his oneitis
      what did she mean by this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >brings out his true personality

        That's the opposite of what Aerith does

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong translation, he is plain/normal with Tifa. With Aerith he is nervous.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Plain/Normal
            Aka his true self. Aerithgays are so delusional lol

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Trying to be disingenuous now that people realized you keep spamming mistranslated shit huh

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No you fricking idiot. Plain/Normal means he acts like his fake soldier persona. Only with Aerith he acts like the true autist that he is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, no. You're a fricking moron. Play thr actual game and pay attention to the VAs (especially in Japanese).

                He puts up a front

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The directors have been contradicting themselves and in your image, at least the final product feels otherwise.
                In Remake, Cloud feels more relaxed, and he is relaxed to LARP too as the cool guy he tried to be, but didn't work.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a wrong translation and the Ultimania confirmed Cloud acts fake around Tifa and always larps as others.

            ?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >chatgpt
              Do you notice how they give special attention to Cloud spilling his spaghetti around Aerith?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a wrong translation and the Ultimania confirmed Cloud acts fake around Tifa and always larps as others.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The difference with Aerith and Tifa is that Aerith reality checks him with her teasing so his facade falls apart

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah Nomura talked how Cloud cant keep his SOLDIER persona around Aerith because it simply doesnt work with her, she breaks him apart. That's why he's always nervous around her. And this is more obvious in japanese from the way sakurai talks with her.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Assertive characters really open Cloud in ways he cant keep his facade. Aerith, Yuffie, Zack. All of them make his true version come off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Claudia really knew exactly what her son needed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is an ongoing topic how Cloud loves people who give him attention and are all over him. Probably the same way when we refer to women. That costa del sol quest where those girls go "you like your woman to be assertive" is not a lie.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud likes three things.
                Assertive women, Tifa, and children.
                If Tifa learned to put her foot down instead of being a people pleaser, their dynamic in Advent Children wouldn't have been so strained. Instead we have a woman who only displays confidence while kicking in something's teeth and is a submissive waif when she needs to be a stern housewife. Especially when they not only agree to look after Marlene for Barret, but Cloud brings home an Aerith child and leaves him with Tifa for months on end while he resigns to die in the church of Sephiroth AIDS.

                Fricking Hell, all I've done just now is remind myself Advent Children was fricking cancer the way it handled everyone's personality. Even Aerith felt off and she had maybe 60 seconds of spoken dialogue.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you mean Aerith, tifa and children.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not just Aerith.
                Rebirth establishes on almost all of the GS dates, including Aerith's, that Cloud actually did feel some kind of budding romantic feelings for Jessie. They were just snuffed out early before they coule grow
                And Jessie ticks all of Claudia's boxes for Cloud's perfect girl harder than Aerith did. If Aerith was assertive, Jessie was downright domineering.
                Yuffie, too, is an assertive personality type. Albeit in a bratty kid sister way, which explains why Cloud is so quick to put up with and even engage in her childish antics in rare moments of his true personality showing through the Zack facade.
                Even the 7th infantry commander was eye fricking Cloud a little bit. And Aerith teases Cloud about Madam M's massage and implied he canonically paid for the premium package.

                The man has a type. Tifa is the exception, not the rule. If she ever starts being even a little domineering, Cloud is basically locked down for life.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >budding romantic feelings for Jessie
                Nah, he didn't. If I lose a friend that way I would have reacted the same way too, yet not necessarily romantic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aerith's date lays it on heavy that Cloud did, in fact, feel something for Jessie. Aerith outright teases him over it and then looks at Jessie's portrait and talks to it as if the two women were standing there together talking about how oblivious Cloud is over his own emotions and that of the women around him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it was more about how Cloud didn't see hoe Jessie really felt, since he's oblivious to her own feelings and meaning of her words, not so muh about his own feelings

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                YOUR FRIEND DIED IN YOUR ARMS AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN SHED A TEAR

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Aerith teases Cloud about Madam M's massage and implied he canonically paid for the premium package.
                didn't she say that it was enough for two of the "standar course" tho?

                >He doesn't know about the female Tifawhales that call her a strong independent woman who is a business owner
                Nevermind that her entire character is about drooling on Cloud's wiener

                you're right, didn't know about that but it checks out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly this is how real relationships work. It all works out in the end, and Marlene even calls Cloud daddy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Marlene even calls Cloud daddy
                THAT'S FRICKING SHIIIIIIT WHAT HAPPENED TO BARRET?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The classic introvert/extrovert dynamic. FF loves that trope.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                introvert/extrovert holykino
                extrovert/extrovert also fun
                introvert/introvert snoozefest
                this applies to all stories not just ff

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah Nomura talked how Cloud cant keep his SOLDIER persona around Aerith because it simply doesnt work with her, she breaks him apart. That's why he's always nervous around her. And this is more obvious in japanese from the way sakurai talks with her.
                We can see that from the first day she spends with him after falling into the church he already loses his objective to spend time with her, even does a bunch of shit that werent in his plans. She reads the guy like a book.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stacey Cetra asserting dominance over humans

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tries to set Cloud up with Tifa so he can move on with his life when she dies

        This doesn’t actually happen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tries to set Cloud up with Tifa so he can move on with his life when she dies

        This doesn’t actually happen

        Aerith tried to avoid getting too close with Cloud in Remake because she knew the future, but in Rebirth she doesn't remember anything about the future anymore(not even what she used to know) thanks to the whispers, so she has no reason to distance herself.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Aerith tried to avoid getting too close with Cloud
          she did a terrible job

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She still "had to" stick to the script and also still wanted to hang out with Cloud. When she says Cloud can't fall in love with her she's probably talking to herself as much as to Cloud.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not "probably", it is also about her, Toriyama confirmed himself. Even ghost aerith had to reafirm that to herself, now imagine how hard it is for an aerith that doesnt know, she is completely in love.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >When she says Cloud can't fall in love with her she's probably talking to herself as much as to Cloud.
              That has actually been confirmed by Toriyama in the Ultimania

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reddit fantasy 7: redditbirth

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what if the Aerith that got killed was also Jenova?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone is Jenova. Humans are all dead and replaced by Sephiroth clones

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nah, Sephiroth is canonically immune to the degradation. I wouldn't be surprised if the mental deterioration if his fellow Jenova pals hit him through the Reunion bond in addition to the emotional stress and grief, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nah, Sephiroth is canonically immune to the degradation
      genuinely asking for proof so I can debunk my own theory
      Maybe he was that mentally weak, though he only had Hojo so it's understandable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's in the Remake ultimania, S-Types like Sephiroth, Cloud and Zack (and maybe Kunsel?) are immune do degradation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remake Ultimania said so, as did CC.

          thanks
          so just shitty childhood/terrible friends/disinformation-Jenova
          got it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The friends weren't even that terrible, just traumatized, despairing and very sick.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              at least say goodbye or something, he would've helped, even left the company

              and come on now, Genesis was always an butthole and a terrible fricking character

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, they were genuinely close once and we know they had plenty of fun. Genesis also kinda dedicated his life to impressing Sephiroth, which, coupled with the usual Jenova autism, made his self-esteem rather shaky. Add the literal brain cancer and you have a pretty explosive wienertail.
                >at least say goodbye or something, he would've helped, even left the company
                True, but according to OO, they didn't want to drag Sephiroth too deep into their mess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >according to OO, they didn't want to drag Sephiroth too deep into their mess.
                this is why you TALK to peop;le and not just assume everything will be alright
                also, Genesis being a dick to him in the reactor for no good fricking reason then going "teehee, help me my friend"

                Great Genesis, fricking genius move

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He had literal brain cancer, don't forget. Degradation affects the mind, not just the body. Decreased impulse control and anger outbursts are canonically some of the symptoms.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Might not be SOLDIER Degredation, but his mind certainly started degrading. Being an autistic 15 year old soldier is not good for the mind. Maybe that's also why he's so obsessed with Cloud seeing as how he's a 16 year old autistic child soldier, mentally speaking.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remake Ultimania said so, as did CC.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cheers for the spoiler dickhead

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >General Info on Final Fantasy
    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

    >Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
    >Theme Song Trailer

    >State of Play

    >Final Trailer

    Previous thread:

    [...]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JANNY GONNA FREAK

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could the rest of the party without Cloud realistically defeat Sephiroth? even before he became Jenova possessed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. The only reason Sephiroth gives the party the time of day is because of Cloud. And sometimes Aerith. Without him, Sephiroth doesn't even interact with them. He just nukes them from orbit.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely don't know how the frick anyone can say Cloud isn't being genuine with Aerith.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You think he is being "genuine" because he's acting like the Cloud we are used to, but that's not the real Cloud, it's his "cool Not Interested persona" that he puts on after getting Zackified. Ironically it's nothing like Zack thanks to the characters being flanderized in different directions.

      Real Cloud is a lot less aloof and more just chill and somewhat shy. That Cloud comes out mainly when he talks to Tifa about life in Nibelheim as kids.

      And no, I'm not a fricking shipper, frick off. I don't even like Tifa.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you'd have to be fricking blind to think Cloud isn't sweating bullets when Aerith flirts with him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Of course he is, do you lack in reading comprehension?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of this has been confirmed in the Ultimania. Cloud canonically falls for Aerith as they spend more time together.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how could he not?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that face just looks off

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like this shot, looks like they pulled an all night bender

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >their faces when they see my wiener

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool not interested cloud is also how he acts in all other media like AC and spin-offs but I do agree that FFVII takes precedence for canon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          canon, as far as the FF7 franchise has been concerned, is that FF7 stands by itself, outside the compilation. Though Kitase and Nomura recently stated that AC is now canon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Remake
            >"if we lose today, AC will happen"
            >Rebirth
            >"AC WILL happen"
            wtf Kojima

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick do I kill brutal gilgamesh? the c**t doesn't not stop. just give me some cheese

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jenova Lifeclinger music start playing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i cum every time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like both new Jenova songs but still think the Remake version is superior

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        adding nier style vocals can make any song kino

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    P3 will be fricked up, but in the love and friendship trumps all, remake started in a reunion of lovers

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Tseng from Wutai?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they went out of their way to establish how Midgar has a healthy immigrant population, so even if he's not, his parents or grandparents probably are

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DAY 27!
    Give it up for Day 27 of no official sales announcement for FF7 Rebirth!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It sold so many copies so quickly that they lost count

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a better crackship

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rude x Tifa

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rude x Tifa is at least one sided canon so it’s not really a crack ship

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not crack

        Name a better crackship

        Aeris/Rufus. though it's not that crack if you think about it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pairing Aerith with literally any other Turk makes more sense. Even that brat Elena

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            rufus' mom was a cetra, or he was injected with jenova cells as a kid is my crack theory, plus they could have met while she was living in shinra hq

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There isn't a better ship.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey. I hope you don't date SOLDIERs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dolphins only

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      High tanned Tifa, you are as cute as Chocobo Tifa.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want to be Mr. Dolphin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will she join us in part 3?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kyrie is the Highwind's designated onahole.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Part 3 should have Sephiroth be really kind to Cloud when he has his breakdown.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >27 days later
    >still no sales report
    grim

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    was anyone able to find a stamp in Kalm? it's interesting how it has the same news report as Zack world

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your wife is Sephiroth.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw a post saying how Tifa's kiss had the same narrative relevance as the chicken sidequest, is this true?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both are irrelevant, optional and have no impact on the story whatsoever, so yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically yes. And there are absurdly high chances it will be just complely ignored in the next game. They cant write it as an event in the main story because people who got shit like cait sith's date wouldnt understand it.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can fix Rufus

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is anyone else sad there is no gondola ride for Cloud and Sephiroth?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we should've gotten the option, dammit

      >fighting about shipping again
      I guess only women played this game.

      but most Tigays are self inserters that want to frick her and get choked by her breasts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tigays self insert as Cloud
        Aerithgays self insert as Aerith
        That's the core difference

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there aren't many Aerithgays tho
          all I ever see is Tigays

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tifa is more popular in the west by a substantial margin. Aerith is more popular in Japan.

            Cloud is going to end up with Tifa again, and Aerith and Zack will end up together again too.
            SE retconned the shit out of the OG to make this ending happen in the first place, they are not going to change course.

            I feel like the opposite happened. OG7 ends with Cloud saying shit like "have all of me" and fricking her then he immediately 180s on it and doesn't even return her calls.

            I personally don't like the idea of Tifa being trapped as his emotional pick me up followed by a lifetime of getting ignored while watching kids that aren't hers. Cloud treats her like shit and just shuts her out. It seems like they changed their minds about their relationship because nothing in the Compilation suggests he loves her romantically at all. Their fledgling romance that is implied in the latter 2 discs basically stops.
            Given how he's characterized post 7 in the OG timeline, Cloud can legitimately be viewed as emotionally abusive to her. That's not fair to her.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I feel like the opposite happened. OG7 ends with Cloud saying shit like "have all of me" and fricking her then he immediately 180s on it and doesn't even return her calls.
              >I personally don't like the idea of Tifa being trapped as his emotional pick me up followed by a lifetime of getting ignored while watching kids that aren't hers. Cloud treats her like shit and just shuts her out. It seems like they changed their minds about their relationship because nothing in the Compilation suggests he loves her romantically at all. Their fledgling romance that is implied in the latter 2 discs basically stops.
              >Given how he's characterized post 7 in the OG timeline, Cloud can legitimately be viewed as emotionally abusive to her. That's not fair to her.
              Rebirth is setting up a scenario where all of them will recognize the feelings they have towards each other, like tifa knowing aerith loves cloud, and that cloud also loves aerith, also that aerith understands that cloud likes tifa. These characters are very mature about their feelings.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cloud loves Aerith
                >Cloud loves Tifa
                >Aerith loves Cloud
                >Tifa loves Cloud
                Aerith and Tifa get along super well this time.Just saying there's a solution here to make everyone happy.
                Worked out great for Rex.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As the Japanese say, "With a flower in both hands."

                Cloud is a lucky guy considering at his core he's a 16 year old proto-incel virgin LARPing as a Chad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Tifa and Aerith are both pedos

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cloud and Yuffie are both 16/10
                I like this game a lot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Best couple. They just work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd prefer it if Tifa didn't wind up with him because he frankly doesn't deserve her. It's clear she wanted more and he literally did pick the fricking ghost. That's more on him than it is on her, I'm sure there were times she was the unfair one bur Cloud definitely 100% leads her on constantly and after Aerith's death says things that would prompt her to keep trying. I don't know why anyone would want a repeat of AC for these characters, Tifa is basically trapped in a loveless marriage she can't emotionally escape. Cloud would be extremely important to her as the only person left from her life before Nibelheim, and having sex with her and saying all that obviously romantic shit he does to her at the end under the Highwind makes his subsequent actions seem supremely shitty to me.
                I mean Tifa Lockheart locked down to a house babysitting kids? That's not who she is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              honestly, Tifa is doing that to herself
              Why stay with the guy if you can clearly see he can't get over Aerith? just fricking leave

              You love him but he can only think about her and won't even answer your calls, why the frick do you stay?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's never truly one guilty party in a bad marriage but imo Cloud definitely led her on to such an extent she'd obviously keep trying. But the other thing is that reduces Tifa to basically nothing. She was able to function without Cloud around for years, doing all sorts of shit by herself. She taught herself how to fight, we see her talking to Johnny at one point in Nibelheim, trapping her as Cloud'a maybe side piece when she wants more reduces her to nothing but an unfricked hole waiting hand and foot like a lapdog because she's attached to him(this is exactly how women can get if you lead them on), and that's not really a fair thing to leave her as. It'd be a lot better and I'd have more respect for them as writers if they did just give him a definitive love interest and the other one got to move on and try with someone else or at least go on their own adventure. Tifa should get a DLC post game for 3 where she does her own thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tifa should behave like the 20 year old she is and realize the 16 year old traped in a 20 year old guy she's obssessed with won't look at her the way she wants him to.
                you treat her like she's a child, a moronic one, and not a grown ass woman who values Cloud's dick more than her self esteem

                she deserves everything Cloud does to her

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >20
                >Grown ass woman
                That's not a grown as woman, Anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what next, you gonna tell me she's just a 20 year old child
                jesus frick, get a grip

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I'm saying the average 20 year old isn't a "Grown" anything.
                When was the last time you interacted with a 20 year old, anon?
                Most of them are irresponsible morons riddled with insecurities and emotional problems who barely act more mature than they were a few years prior as teenagers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the average 20 year old
                NOTHING about anyone in thi game is average, she went through so much shit she should be more mature than the soft, my-life-is-suoper-easy 20 year old, she's 22 in AC, and has several loses and a war with an almost god under her belt

                she should act a bit more mature than this teenager tantrum throwing shit she does with her "Aerith or us", as if Cloud doesn't want to get better but depression doesn't fricking work like that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair, but it doesn't change the fact that she still has a boat load of emotional growing to do. This can't be disputed. Shr and Cloud both have a ton of emotional baggage they need to unpack and neither one can really claim to be a grown ass adult with their shit together in FFVII.

                Also, "Aerith or us" is a perfectly reasonable response for the grown ass woman you want Tifa to be.
                Cloud brought home a little boy. One who he claimed was a gift to him from Aerith. One he wished to be a father figure to and raise.
                So yes. Tifa actually does have a point about Cloud's depression. He accepted willing guardianship of a child. Which means Cloud needs to get over his problems at some point and do right by that child.
                It's perfectly fine to mourn the loss of a loved one, but don't sit there being a sad sack for two straight years while you leave Tifa by herself to run a business and raise two children (One of whom is only there because of you) while goings weeks, and even months not knowing if you're dead or alive because you can't even give regular courtesy calls and almost never pick up the phone when she calls you.
                At some point, yeah. Tough love is required. If anything Tifa doesn't do it enough because she's still a doormat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never said Cloud was perfect, he absolutely fumbled the bag with Denzel but don't dump Marlene on him since Barret was the one to leave her there and I'm sure he was counting on Tifa, more than Cloud, to take care of her. That wasn't Cloud problem even if he agreed to take care of her too.

                Besides, she should know that that's not gonna make a difference. If it's been two fricking years and nothing has chaged, that little tantrum definitely won't do anything.
                She should either leave and try to live her life on her own or stop that shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she is a 20 year old defined by the trauma of her past.
                A real, healthy, normal woman that was 20 years old, that looked like and acted like Tifa does, would have completely forgotten Cloud Strife would have existed. But she was completely fricked up by the Nibelheim Incident, if not also from some abandonment issues from her mother dying. I laughed out loud when I heard what she said in the Lifestream in Gongaga in Rebirth, pleading with Seph not to take Cloud too because she needed him. Thats Tifa in a nutshell. Contrast what Tifa does when Cloud goes to slice her in Gongaga, pleading with him not to do it, with how Aerith acts in the Temple of the Ancients when Cloud is chasing for the Black Materia, giving it to him and telling him that no matter what happens, she her for them. Tifa is a fricking black hole.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so she's just a shit character and people only like her because she's a tit monter and is a doormet
                what a fricking surprise

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she's a decent character, just not a particularly good person. She's a fricking tool, honestly. You're right about the last part though. People do only like her for her udders

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cloud is pretty much a ruined person even by the end of AC. Nojima makes a point to emphasize that Cloud in FF7 is still a 16 year old boy without any relationship experience. That coupled with his personality means he is not really capable of a romantic relationship. Aerith handles this better than Tifa, because they approach the relationship with Cloud differently.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tifa could have been written as a much better character this time around, but instead the writing team turned her into a snot-nosed little b***h for nostalgia andies like Max Dood who just goes "Cloud, I now have a crush on you all the sudden cause all my orbiters left me..., also member when???"

              Most annoying character in Rebirth and that's with Kyrie and Yuffie...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This b***h also woke Cloud up in the first chapter after he shared that he lost his mum just to yell at him for having PTSD… what a hypocritical c**t when she herself didn’t remember the Nibelheim incident correctly either.

                Also the “And where were you again?” line was needlessly cruel; Cloud doesn’t owe her a damn thing and if anything, she should be thanking Zack for what he did for her instead of constantly being angry at Cloud over the course of the entire FF7 compilation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also the “And where were you again?” line was needlessly cruel
                So was Cloud accusing her of being some fake copy.
                They both said some pretty fricked up things.

                Still prefer this over Tifa just keeping her mouth shut the entire game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >most annoying character is Tifa

                No, it's Aerith. She's like two clicks away from overly attached girlfriend:
                "Hey Cloud, want a flower? No? Too bad LOL!"
                "Hey Cloud, remember me, the flower?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna be my bodyguard?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna escort me across rooftops and fight off Shinra's yakuza?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna pick flowers?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna listen to flowers?"
                "Hey Cloud, wow you look just like my ex!"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna crossdress and dance?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna high five?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna protect me from ghosts?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna save me from Shinra again?"
                "Hey Cloud, don't fall in love with me it's not real LOL!"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna climb a Clock tower? It can be another date!"
                "Hey Cloud, can you not regift my flower to another girl even though I said your girlfriend will love it and I forced you to take it?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna take selfies?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna pick more flowers?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna talk to my ex's parents and watch me pretend to not be the girl he would gush to them about?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna climb the water tower in Nibelheim and stare at Tifa's bedroom?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna get pushed through other timelines?"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna have a dream date and buy me stuff and hold hands!"
                "Hey Cloud, wanna save me but also see me die anyway?"
                "Hey Cloud, want me to haunt you so we can talk even though everyone else thinks you're going nuts?"

                It's so fricking grating. The English VA makes it even worse. Manic pixie dream pickme girl that would be like 19 red flags IRL.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy mindbroken Tifakek. I didn't read your copes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Found the Cloud self inserter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet the real Cloud still goes along with all of this regardless… Also why even bring up her VA/Briana who’s a true professional that has nothing to do with the script in the first place? Just accept that this entire trilogy is all about saving Aerith because it can’t be anymore obvious by now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because it can’t be anymore obvious
                Nah. She'll still die.
                Cloud will just get the closure he needs this time, from Aerith herself, instead of being a mopey frick for the next decade.

                Remember. This isn't about Aerith. It's about saving the world, and Cloud. Literally Aerith's own words at the end of the dream date.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically agree with this anon, and i'm an aerisgay. As much as she was the perfect woman for him, it was simply not meant to be. Life is like that sometimes. He'll live a long happy life with tifa, or with someone else,or no one and then reunite with aeris after death

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just accept that this entire trilogy is all about saving Aerith
                this. People really do not get this. Remake is to FF7 what X-2 is is to X; fan service and wish fullfilment. The ending of X-2 gave fans what they wanted, and there has been no greater request received by SquareEnix in its history than the ability to save Aerith.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                X-2 had two endings.
                The fan service ending you're talking about, however canon it is, required more work than the standard one.
                And it doesn't matter because their weird little audio drama had her fall in love with someone else and break up with the revived Tidus anyway.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but they still gave fans what they wanted. And thats the thing. Yoichi Wada forever changed how FF would be developed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Right.
                They gave them what they wanted. And then took it away again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We shall see, but I bet not. The timeline shenanigan is meant to show and allow more character relations and development, not to alter the chain of events in a major way like that.

                As we see in the other branches, fate tends to play the same (Aerith to Sephiroth after she gives Cloud the white materia and pushes him away, Zack when he gets confronted by another Shinra firing squad in the timeline he forks to go after Biggs, etc.)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your pic is completely true if you confine yourself to just FF7, but the Remake project is not FF7.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Manic pixie dream pickme girl that would be like 19 red flags IRL.
                this was written by a woman
                men like "pickmes" lmao
                what man would hate a woman whose one defining trai is being nice towards men and not being an annoying feminist c**t?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tifagays are literally femcels Tifa self inserts lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This anon is correct. Xitter is filled with insane histrionic women who self-insert as Tifa.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i just feel good looking a cute couple whos not being divided by trauma and dysfunctional expectations of one another

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aerithgay, who doesn't eschew the carnal side of it at all, here, I never self insert in anything.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't know about the female Tifawhales that call her a strong independent woman who is a business owner
        Nevermind that her entire character is about drooling on Cloud's wiener

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fighting about shipping again
    I guess only women played this game.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could it be that Gi Nattak is actually the unsent ghost of Tromell Guado who was sent to another planet by the Shinra kid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Gi are aliens.
      Planet never created them.
      Which makes the whole FF10 being a prequel to FF7 incredible stupid, since that would mean humans are aliens too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesnt need to be, could be that Gaia already had humans living on it before Shinra and his team traveled there

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The X-VII connection was mostly a joke. Nojima himself said there's nothing deep about it, he had just joked to his colleagues that X-2 ended up having a lot of elements resembling VII by accident, so they inserted a small cameo connecting those games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon, rebirth literally has aerith doing the yuna summoner dance while pyreflies, excuse me lifestream wisps fly around her.

          ff 7 and 10 take place in the same universe 100%

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ifalnabros..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Should have bred Ifalna

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why the change tho
      to make Cid also hate Hojo?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Meta explanation would be that since Rebirth cuts Rocket Town, they must make up a motivatory connection for Cid to the rest of the party.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          His original motivation for joining is pretty thin, so adding something to it wasn't a bad idea either way.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think the retcon goes too far here. Imagine what Cid could do to Ifalna and Aerith. He could have saved them and the story would change drastically.
            And the fact that he didn't do anything makes him looks dumb.
            Also how is it that a new hire got personally close to Shinra's most precious prisoner? Doesn't make sense.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cid in OG was a good little corporate slave until his ego project went up the smoke.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He could have saved them and the story would change drastically.
              >And the fact that he didn't do anything makes him looks dumb.
              He literally says he saw ifalna and aerith once when he was a teenager, he just fell for ifalna but thats it. He wasnt always with ifalna. He couldnt save them of anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it'll have to do with Shinra wanting to use the rocket against meteor instead of wanting the Tiny Bronco because of reasons

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Makes much more sense. Shinra wanting the Tiny Bronco never did make sense when they already had the Highwind and a crew.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Rebirth cuts Rocket Town,
          wut?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            rocket town has been moved to part 3, cid is a pilot for hire in rebirth instead

            all the stuff about the rocket and him pissed at shera is not in rebirth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Next game, they're turning it into a single segment instead of 2 visits. You gotta remember disc 2 did a shit ton of revisiting to fill time. Huge materia quest is mostly padding.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      W-what? Do Cid and Iflana have history now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cid used to work in Shinra tower and had a crush on her

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't he like 10 years younger than her? Is Cid a milf connosseur and cougar hunter?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna have to dive into the numbers again but he definitely knew Aerith when she was a baby or small child. Also I think he's actually the oldest of the group (minus Red).
            But yeah, he likes hags

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Also I think he's actually the oldest of the group (minus Red).
              Vincent is 57.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot about the literal vampire kek
                alright, he's the oldest of the NORMAL party members

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                vincent is a vampire undead monster thing also a cuck. he doesn't count.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >watching another dude frick your girl makes you immortal
                now hold on a moment

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what being cucked by hojo does to a motherfricker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zackbros we're so going to make it!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ZACK LIVES CONFIRMED

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She just gave him his first boner is all. You never had the hots for one of your school teachers?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why was a schoolkid Cid in shinra building?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                say what you want about them but Shinra has some good internship programs!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're kidding, but I was surprised to learn that they apparently pay good enough money to the families of their employees so Elmyra and also Jesse's mom can live without worrying about putting food on the table. Shinra might be corrupt israelites, but they have amazing social security policies

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's just life on VII's planet. Cloud went off to become a SOLDIER at 13. Yuffie is 16 and travelling across the entire world by herself. It's no stretch for a (15yo?) Cid to have been in Midgar working at Shinra. Especially since he's a smart guy who would also go on to be a pilot for them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In one of the sidequests they mention how Cloud was 13-14 when he left home and how that's considered normal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vincent got Hojo'd
      >Cid got Gast'd

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cid was just a kid with a juvenile crush, there's no shame in that. plus gast was a good man by all accounts. vincent got legit cucked

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro....spoiler

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a lie

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder:
    >Aerithgays are Jenovagays in disguise

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thread theme

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they really had no excuse not to use it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you had to remind me they didn't use this

      I believed we would need to see the ultimania to break the delusion of some people but even guys like max are saying how nptk is from aerith to cloud and refering to aerith as Cloud's gf. Truly a landscape changing moment.

      surprising, considering I still see people saying Hollow was Cloud singing about Zack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really don't understand how morons think the theme song of the game was going to be Cloud singing about a side character. It's a matter of common sense

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believed we would need to see the ultimania to break the delusion of some people but even guys like max are saying how nptk is from aerith to cloud and refering to aerith as Cloud's gf. Truly a landscape changing moment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I believed we would need to see the ultimania to break the delusion of some people but even guys like max are saying how nptk is from aerith to cloud and refering to aerith as Cloud's gf. Truly a landscape changing moment.
      I noticed how there arent as many denial posts anymore, now it is straight up hate if they dont like her, which is better than being disingenuous.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which date is your favorite?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tifa and Aerith.
      They should have been the only options.
      Tifa's gondola kiss should have been in the first Gold Saucer date but when they get off they don't have time to discuss it as the news of a gun armed assailant in battle square pulls them away from it, as opposed to the gondola being closed. Or just had them kiss in Gongags and then be interrupted by Yuffie and Cait a few seconds after the fact.
      The second date should have been Aerith but played as it did. Handholding and shoulder leaning and all. Hell. Have him kiss Aerith too while you're at it, if not here then on the dream date, really give the ship gays something to seethe about.
      Yuffie's date could play out anywhere and didn't need to be on the gondola. Barret and Nanaki's heart to hearts could have also happened anywhere.
      Cait Sith/Cid/Vincent could have been shoved off in some corner of GS.

      None of these optional scenes needed to be optional and all could have been worked into the story somewhete to give them all narrative weight and avoid 3+ years of dogshit discussion threads. Affinity mechanics and optional scenes work fine in a single game, but not when you're stretching them over three titles with NO interaction outside of "Oh? You have a save file from before? Have Leviathan I guess".
      Even Mass Effect 10+ years ago handled this multi-game relationship shit better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Yuffsta. You just gotta love her.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is going to end up with Tifa again, and Aerith and Zack will end up together again too.
    SE retconned the shit out of the OG to make this ending happen in the first place, they are not going to change course.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Without all honestly, i think zerith is kinda fricked. Do you think they can make aerith confess her feelings for cloud in the second game, go with major dates with him, say that she wants HIM, even have shit like marlene talking how aerith has feelings for Cloud, compose a love song who is the main theme of the game , for it to be just "wow zack you appeared again in the third game i love you more than cloud agian". People need to be very realistic with this writing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would be jarring, and not even from a matter of shipping, but just writing. If they want to pair her with Zack they should've done the absolutely inverse of everything they did in Rebirth.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate you a little.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Certain subsets of the fandom have always been that delusional

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. I don't know how the whole Cloti/Clerith thing is going to end, but Zerith is definitely dead now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Without all honestly, i think zerith is kinda fricked. Do you think they can make aerith confess her feelings for cloud in the second game, go with major dates with him, say that she wants HIM, even have shit like marlene talking how aerith has feelings for Cloud, compose a love song who is the main theme of the game , for it to be just "wow zack you appeared again in the third game i love you more than cloud agian". People need to be very realistic with this writing.
        The truth is that Rebirth took the Cloud and Aeirth stuff to a level that's too far. To the point where making her forget about Cloud to end up with Zack in the third game would be just really really jarring. That's why people fought so much over who the song is about, because they know it is something very serious and will nuke the other ship.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's why people fought so much over who the song is about
          That's about the worst place for them to take the debate because there is zero ambiguity who that song is for

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know, but that's a do or die scenario for them, they know how that shit isnt small at all. It is aerith revealing her deepest feelings.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aerith and Zack are equally shitty as Tifa and Cloud. Both are shitty childhood romances, the real meat is between Cloud and Aerith.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People need to be very realistic with this writing
        I've seen more than a few stories about star crossed lovers who have their own love ballad or love theme only for the movie to end with them seperated, with other people, one or both being dead, or some combination of them.

        Unrealistic is assuming the writers, directors, and producers are going to allow a 3 minute song to write them into a corner when they didn't even know what they were going to do in the final game.
        Kind of like how they promised some unknown journey at the end of Remake only for Rebirth to largely be the same exact journey only now rewritten to account for Yuffie being a main character and Gongaga being mandatory instead of optional, and for the order of events to be a bit jumbled and remixed. But the story was still basically the same until the ending, which is also promising something different but we'll probably get another remix that ends up doing the same.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >when they didn't even know what they were going to do in the final game.
          Are you sure about this? because the more games we get into this trilogy, more it makes sense, at least everything related to loveless street and cloud and aerith.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you sure about this? because the more games we get into this trilogy, more it makes sense, at least everything related to loveless street and cloud and aerith.
            I think that what fricks me up is when we see the loveless play copying lines that were said in KINGDOM HEARS 20+ YEARS AGO
            These devs are autistic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's just the nojima and nomura way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hollow literally predicted all of Rebirth, they know exactly what they're doing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I've seen more than a few stories about star crossed lovers who have their own love ballad or love theme only for the movie to end with them seperated, with other people, one or both being dead, or some combination of them.
          Can you list some of them? because most of them that i can remember even if they get separated the whole point is how they will be reunited again. Just like stories as Titanic, Jack dies but they get reunited in heaven.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'll give you one example from this very franchise.
            Final Fantasy VIII's Stand By Me was written by Juliet for and about Laguna, but Laguna left on assignment, Juliet married Rinoa's dad, and then died in a car accident without ever seeing Laguna again or learning that he was still alive. The song becoming their children's love song was meant to be bittersweet, as the only reason Squall and Rinoa were even alive to be together is because his dad and her mom were denied their shot at love by circumstance, and both ended up with another partner.

            Also your Titanic example neglects the fact that Rose still went on to have a rich, full life with a new love and children. Rose wasn't so broken up over Jack that she sulked around in a church waiting to die of Billy Zane aids.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stand By Me is a song by Ben E. King from 60's as far as I know

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Also your Titanic example neglects the fact that Rose still went on to have a rich, full life with a new love and children. Rose wasn't so broken up over Jack that she sulked around in a church waiting to die of Billy Zane aids.
              Yet the whole ending shit is about she meeting jack again on heaven even if she lived a whole life with another person, and that's hilarious as frick. I think Titanic is the worst example ever. And the most we know is that she had children, not she she had a happy life with another person.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even if we have the whole Eyes on Me thing, every time we think about that song no one will think about Laguna and his new wife, but him and Julia, how they were the ones who truly loved each other, and this is the perfect example of why i said that. And how serious songs like that can be. Imagine this in something like ff7, where death is even less "final" than other games. The whole shit about meeting again in the promised land is an actual thing and not just a delusion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That still doesn't mean they'll end up together in the end.
                People who think that the existence of NPTK means Cloud and Aerith are destined for some happy ending where they get to be together and get married and have a typical little family are just as delusional as the homosexuals who deny NPTK is about Aerith and Cloud in the first place.
                Too many people have this attitude of
                >Well X happened, that means they MUST do Y! They're not just going to do X and then not let Y happen! That's absurd! X is hard confirmation of Y! Not doing Y means X had no meaning!
                Because too many homosexuals see things in shades of black and white only.

                It's a story. Not a math equation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not just the song, it's the entire fricking narrative that points to them being reunited. Hamaguchi said before that the Loveless Street and the Loveless play are very important to the overall narrative of the trilogy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Timely reminder that Sephiroth apparently lifted his muh puppet taunt from Loveless too.
                >O Puppet of Fate

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But who the frick are you talking about lol
                I never said the ff7 ending will be with them having a family, just that it is obvious if you look at the whole shit they've put in this trilogy how the ending will be a reunion between them. Where and when, who knows.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you look at the whole shit they've put in this trilogy how the ending will be a reunion between them. Where and when, who knows.
                They will meet again and again through time and space. Another Xenogears remnant.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with it, but the remake trilogy will create the final loop.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope so, otherwise it introduces something it doesnt resolve

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Loose ends just mean more dlc or spin off mobile games or novels.
                Every second of unresolved plot is an exciting opportunity for even more lore and explanation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the entire point of the Remake project (and its multiverse) is to eject the FF7 franchise from the straightjacket of its story so it can be more marketable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love the world and the characters so getting more time with them can only be a good thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yep, me too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I will always look forward to sequels and spinoffs because, personally, the potential of good new shit outweighs the fear of bad new shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel the same way

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure the point is to at least some extent redo the Compilation for a new audience since it's one of their biggest universes and they can now freely make more spinoffs without thinking about shit like AC or Dirge. The multiverse shit will stop well before the end game for the most part and it will be back to one true timeline.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then explain, from a business perspective, why SquareEnix would completely kill off their most popular franchise. Because one true timeline means the franchise is as narratively dead as it has been since DoC. Keep in mind that the Remake project was supposed to happen far earlier than it did, it was supposed to happen right after CC, and the entire point of Compilation was to give the fans more of the product they want. There is no where for the story to go if they do not multiverse it, and thus nothing to build new products around.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I hope so, otherwise it introduces something it doesnt resolve
                FF7 also had an open ending. so while remake will probably be more conclusive, dont expect anything concrete

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are people who unironically think they'll show Cloud with a family and kids.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can understand them. The original game happened, people went through the events. Now they are supposed to do that again, and many people want things to be different - they want to set things right. Plus, it's unlikely that these games will be remade again in their lifetime, so this is their only chance for REDEMPTIOOOOOON

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am not going to be terribly surprised if the ending of part 3, if they are really leaning into this being a sequel to AC, is showing Cloud on his deathbed as an old man or something, and all of this is a battle in his head. Also, a happy ending for Cloud is unfricking his head, thats why the ending of AC is perfect for him, since it implies his last issue has been resolved and he can start to be normal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True and I don't mind having that same tone for the end, but ending on "lol, it's a time loop, it'll just go on forever, credits roll" and then leaving it at that would be an awful way to conclude it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again, Cloud would probably create the last one. Similar to End of EVA.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No kidding. It worked in VIII because VIII was a single game and accepting that time travel does nothing and you have to live the life you have is the whole point. The game never suggests that fate can be changed; the characters only refuse to accept it until they finally can’t. Remake, on the other hand, yells “yes, it can be changed” loudly and insistently, so it’d better deliver.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You Tigays actually want a 1:1 recreation of one of the most toxic relationships in gaming history?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you Aerithgays are just projecting your desires for a spunky assertive older girl to reach out and chip away at your armor of autism lonerdom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tifakeks don't even have the iq to come up with new insults and just parrot whatever was said that hurt their feel feels

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My last night here for you
    Same old songs, just once more
    My last night here with you?
    Maybe yes, maybe no
    I kind of liked it your way
    How you shyly placed your eyes on me
    Oh, did you ever know?
    That I had mine on you

    Darling, so there you are
    With that look on your face
    As if you're never hurt
    As if you're never down
    Shall I be the one for you
    Who pinches you softly but sure
    If frown is shown then
    I will know that you are no dreamer

    So let me come to you
    Close as I wanted to be
    Close enough for me
    To feel your heart beating fast
    And stay there as I whisper
    How I loved your peaceful eyes on me
    Did you ever know
    That I had mine on you

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love rebirth aerith so much, she clearly doesn't want to die at the end.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder
    >Just like from Remake to Rebirth you'll probably won't be able to transfer much from one save to another
    >rebirth date might be invalidated in the next game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was it ever explained why they left everything behind before the Kalm flashback?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the singularity fricked up their inventory

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously only one GS date can be canon. Guess which one was it in the original.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Except they never did... Max and the rest of his Tigays are coping hard lmao

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah he actually saved her. Seph (rarely) seething after you won the fight suggests that she and Cloud once again foiled his plans hence why he flew off like a little b***h

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was seething?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i am not seething

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw my lagswitch wasn't enough to win the tound

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he looks very serene and calm

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look at his face after you win the final fight in Rebirth. He's always had the Dennis Reynolds psycho smirk whenever he tries to manipulate Cloud but Omni-Aerith x Cloud was way too strong for him, something he's never expected.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i'd be pissed too if a a chick started throwing 9999 damage fireballs at me while i'm trying to have cloud suck my black materia balls

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't he just fly away laughing at the end?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he's pissed because they ruined his plan
            he laughs and flies away because they won the battle but he can still win the war

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's doing the anon >I-I was just pretending to be moronic/defeated

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean his actual dad (Hojo) does the same thing whenever shit goes wrong so yeah, like father like son.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >convinced everyone to take shinra's deal
    he convinced people who werent on board, there were others that were. what the frick was he supposed to do tell everyone lets stay poor and stupid
    >knowing he cant go back to her and suffer for the rest of his life knowing his daugther lives but cant return to her?
    shit he didn't even know about until the last 5 minutes of his dumbass life

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When did you realize that Nojima is the only writer worth shit working at Square?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She's alive and you're coping because you want to be miserable

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad they decided to shit all over the original themes by having us change destiny/time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original themes is overcoming your past (something rebirth does), identity crisis and life and death (something rebirth is doing) and environmentalism (smething remake did)

      I dont know what you mean

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's done none of that. See, in another reality Cloud saved Aerith and so she's actually still around, and will be reunited with the others in part 3.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was the point of an affinity system if they are going to have a canon pairing? More scenes should have been adapted to the system
    >Aerith wouldn't confess to Cloud if he had date with Tifa
    >Zack wouldn't got cucked
    >Tifa kiss would have mattered
    Seriously, Cloud and Aerith doesn't need romantic love for the plot or for caring for each other. Could can easily break and become a schizo just because his close friend got killed in front of him and he couldn't save her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What was the point of an affinity system if they are going to have a canon pairing?
      money motherfricker, this shit sells, that's why they've never made one of the ships canon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What was the point of an affinity system
      to pad your (re)play time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same reasons why Triss = Tifa and Yennefer = Aerith.

      Sure you can "choose" between the two but at the end of the day, you're still "subjected" to the canon lady (Yennefer/Aerith) because of the OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bSk-8C76dc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yennefer is canon because she's the love of Geralt's life and has been in a relationship with him for 20+ years. They are literally destined to be together, the song has nothing to do with it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you talking about the books or games? because that shit doesnt matter in the games if players can just end up with Triss.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't matter. The books are canon to the games, the player can end up with Triss but that is obviously not canon and completely not in character for Geralt. Book Geralt pretty much told her to frick off when she was literally throwing herself at him.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Again, worthless if i can pick the girl i like in the game and just ignore any romance with yennefer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not Cloud

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can cope all day about books but the devs let you choose. So you can keep screaming at the void.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not him, but I will repeat what he said, your not Cloud. Furthermore, the date choice is player choice, but the player choice is also not relevant in terms of the narrative.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can cope all day about books but the devs let you choose. So you can keep screaming at the void.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is now way contradicts what I said. They could completely remove all the dates and the narrative would still be the same, which is why their are multiple dates.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And the same goes for Cloud and Aerith in all FF7 novellas. Even if he did have the ONS with Tifa, the VERY next day his mind/true feelings shifted to Aerith again... Like why would any true Tifa fans want that for her? She and Cloud have been shown time and time again that they're incompatible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What was the point of an affinity system if they are going to have a canon pairing?
      because they could not NOT have the dating crap in Rebirth or their would be riots. And giving players choice of date hampers their story telling. They mitigated it in OG buy having Aerith have the most default points and keeping the mechanic simple and hidden, since the most "lore" was in the Aerith date (her telling Cloud she wants to meet the "real" Cloud is a clue to his nature, something that they really do not need to provide in the Remake project as its obvious he has some sort of mental issue in Chapter 1). They make it a lot worse in Rebirth becasue they obviously wanted people to be punished for seeking a specific date, which is why they did the party XP system and expanded the inputs to the affinity mechanic. If you wanted to make sure you got the HA date with Aerith or TIfa in Rebirth, without a guide, you were skipping a LOT of side quests you should be doing. The only playthrough I can stand to watch is someone that was completely cluesless to what the affinity mechanic led to, which meant she did ALL the content prior to it, and had a much better experience than the usual pack of FF7 streamers that treated it like a fricking dating sim.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also in the OG the Aerith date made sense as the default because she literally agreed to pay him one date for bodyguard services.
        The Gold Saucer date was that repayment.
        Here Aerith repays that debt in Kalm, and all they do is talk about Tifa.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Here Aerith repays that debt in Kalm, and all they do is talk about Tifa.
          Actually, Remake Ultimania confirmed that the date Aerith promised Cloud was the one they had when they were travelling to wall market.
          >All they talk is Tifa
          Because Aerith is a good firends and know what it means to be lonely, she doesn't even consider Tifa as a romantic rival. In her eyes they were just childhood friends and Aerith, who was lonely her entire life knows how important a childhood friend is.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Actually, Remake Ultimania confirmed that the date Aerith promised Cloud was the one they had when they were travelling to wall market.
            this, its even in the dialog in Remake, Cloud makes a comment about payment, and Aerith replies that "you are getting paid RIGHT NOW".

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Sephiroth and Aerith just gods that can affect timelines and causality now?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always were

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerith is a cetra
      Sephiroth mixed with an alien that cant join the lifestream

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neither one of those is really a good explanation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why aren't the other cetras doing this then?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you could argue that the prayer in the capital or having the the holy materia did the trick
          btw we did get this whole lore dump about the black materia but Aerith's is still an unexplained macguffin, right?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, my larger point is why are they extinct if they can alter the lifestream/destiny/whatever

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              inb4 Jenova also eats souls and just prevented them from joining the lifestream

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              because being able to do something is not the same as thinking it is right to do so. Cetra WANT to rejoin with the lifestream when they die, and see themselves as part of the planet, so going extinct is the will of the planet to them. Of course Aerith has different ideas on the matter, since she becomes the patron saint/goddess of mankind in the lifestream post FF7.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't quite hold for me. It's not like they need to be immortal, everyone dies. But to have their whole culture eradiated, and also being the self proclaimed guardians of the planet, you would seek to continue that heritage rather than just die out to return to the planet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well there was also the theory that the whispers ARE the cetra but that's just a theory
                a game theory

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they did not die out willingly, they were essentially wiped out by Jenova when they fought to contain her in the Northern Crater.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Surely they could have peeked into other realities in the lifestream to find a much better solution?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"we're getting fricked in ALL timelines"
                what now big boy?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Aerith can wriggle her way around this kind of thing, surely the experienced wizards should be able to.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Cetra are kind of shit at the whole responsibility thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japan thinks that making a character more interesting and making a character more powerful are the same thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because it's a sequel and now they're able to send their consciousness back in spacetime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the devs are Aerith fanboys

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unequipped all of Aerith's materia before finale
    Oops

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rebirth already confirmed this shit doesnt matter next game
      >cait siths leaving shows that you get stuff back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah.. that doesn't help when she has no materia on the final fight

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          should have paid attention, enjoy the reload

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KotR won't be story relevant, will it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably not
      probably the protorelics quest in part3, collecting knights in every region and then having the superboss be fighting all of them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >every region
        I'm curious if they'll manage to give us the entire globe in the next game. I'm already impressed with the "overworld" in Rebirth.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop, i can only get so hard
        Fighting knights around the Globe to finally face all of them and Arthur sounds like a dream

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think they'll resolve the Gi storyline?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      watch them never be mentioned again lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I believe in Nojima

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i can only see them being saved/given true death if the clear materia does something new

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Red said he'd spend time during his life in finding a way to free them without nuking the planet in the process.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I bet they’ll get freed in Part 3 when Jenova gets exorcised from the Lifestream.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure they'll receive the same attention the main Avalanche organization from Remake did did.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well actually they did namedrop the other two mobage OCs so they might show up next game

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TOTAL CETRA DEATH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      back to the cuckpod, jenova.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I CAN'T, THIS CRAZY homie RIPPED ME OUT OF IT
        ALSO I AIN'T GOT NO LEGS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just shapeshift into something, dumbfrick.
          did the cetra really job to this b***h?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            now that I'm thinking about it, Shinra hid her body behind that angel statue in the Nibelheim Reactor (because she fell from the heavens and uplifted them yada yada)
            the projections in the ancient temple also depicted her as an angel, so did she ACTUALLY have wings? I think her parasite form also has fleshy protrusions that look like wings

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aerith feet on my face and then on my dick.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Junon is the second biggest city in the world
    wow, life on Gaia sucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it implied that the war against the republic of junon destroyed most settlements?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        would make sense, you have ruins pretty much everywhere
        that's actually a cool thing, seeing all those derelict war machines from pre-mako days

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine Cloud's true inner self getting to experience this moment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cute Barret impersonation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >canonically just trying to look mature and badass like Barret
          Eh.

          >hurr durr Barret-larp!
          I found the Aerithgays, who probably don't get almost everything Cloud does is a LARP until Tifa gets him back in order.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gets him in order
            when did that happen?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >canonically just trying to look mature and badass like Barret
        Eh.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is with the willem dafoe on ff characters faces meme. is it the streetshitters?

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will it ever be explained why Aerith is inexplicably a ridiculously good singer despite having zero experience?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she practiced a lot offscreen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI voice modulation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Main heroine stat perks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cetra blood is simply superior

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barret has loving wife
    >She's killed and Barret is largely to blame
    Dyne has a loving family
    >Wife is killed and daughter stolen
    Cid has a cute assistant who would literally die for him
    >Treats her like shit for it
    Vincent loves Lucrecia
    >Becomes the most most cucked to death man in video games. So much so that modding him into Cuckold Simulator would be an improvement on his life.
    Cissnei loves Zack
    >Waits for a man that will never come home
    Yuffie likes Zack
    >Goes nowhere. Man is dead
    Aerith and Zack, the most compatible couple in the game.
    >Zack dies, Aerith dies. Zack gets cucked by his best friend.
    Cloud and Tifa?
    >Cloti "Wins" because Cloud is an aloof inattentive dick and Tifa is a doormat
    Cloud and Aerith?
    >She fricking dies. Nojima admits in a interview that even if Aerith lived, she and Cloud would have their own set of challenges like Cloud and Tifa

    Explain to me again why anyone has hope for romance in Nojima games?
    The man has never been married, has no lovers, no children, and no family
    He refuses to divulge his opinions on marriage and family because he knows he'll catch shit for them.
    It's obvious this man has no capacity for love in his heart and likely hasn't experienced it since being a teenager.
    This is just FFVII. Every romance he writes has some miserable shit in it somewhere. The most stable relationship he ever fricking wrote was Wakka and Lulu, and even that was built on the back of Chappu's death.
    Fricking Bahamut Lagoon was literally NTR for frick's sake.
    How anyone can have faith that their ships will ever be treated well so long as this jaded, miserable frick is writing them is beyond me.
    He's a sad old man who never got any play and takes it out on the characters he made you fall in love with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Squall and Rinoa are pretty happy in Opera Omnia, so Nojima can deliver, he just doesn’t want to. That said, the guy does love tragedy. Even Genesis and Sephiroth are apparently in the tragic fateful relationship group.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Becomes the most most cucked to death man in video games. So much so that modding him into Cuckold Simulator would be an improvement on his life.
      what about leslie?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Leslie's girl went unwillingly with Corneo
        Lucrecia married and fricked Hojo

        can you see the difference?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh i thought it was somewhat willingly. fair point but at least vincent isnt a tenth of a character featured in a 3 part sidequest in a 3 part game about having other capable people try to get his woman back for him

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, can't win them all, son

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don Corneo didn't sew monsters inside of Leslie's body.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people keep saying multi timeline stuff is done? Seph was trying to merge them back but Cloud, Zack, and Aerith stopped him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people are moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're the same people that thought the whispers were gone, but the devs have made it pretty clear that they're adding the whole fighting fate as extra layer on top of FF7's story, so it will all be relevant throughout.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair that was more about them no longer playing the role as time jannies which was true.
        In rebirth they're just Sephiroth + Aerith's little minions fighting their lifestream proxy war they're not enforcing "fate" by the will of the planet like in Remake.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just got to Gold Saucer and Corel Prison. Holy frick that was gay as hell. When does this game get NOT GAY AS FRICK?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      embrace the weird homosexualry, its fun
      especially dio is based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yuffie fricking sucks, her being part of the story is awful, the KPOP dance number was so fricking bad. Who the frick even is the audience for this shit? It is a game made for children who aren't playing it, adults are, so why the frick is everything so god damn childish?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Japanese people are autistic children.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get worked son.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We're all gonna make it, bruh.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dude was just some office manager til he got jacked
            Can I do this too?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon have you missed the crossdressing scene in the first few hours of the game?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >glide de chocobo is part of Johnny's trophies
    it's over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not that hard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm having a shitload of trouble with it, sometimes you can glide back up very succesfully after doing the dive, other times chocobo just fizzles out and is forced to land

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i mean yeah its annoying, takes some tres but its just practice
          gears and gambits on the other hand...i dont have brain for that

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zissnei

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a cutie Zack doesn't need to be sad about his second choice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cissnei looked hotter in old CC

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cissnei enjoys the attention given to her by Zack
    >Lets her guard down for him
    >Jealous of Aerith
    >STRONG feelings for him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CetraStaceys making ALL the second choices seethe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the only good end for Zack. Cissnei proved herself great wife material by going in and taking care of Zack's parents and his hometown when she could have broken the promise with no negative repercussions.
      That's the kind of loyalty you want from a woman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cissnei is best girl. no contest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Age: 16
      Hollup

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Should be ~20-21 now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it actually contradicts the FF7 timeline on the wiki, which has Cissnei being born two years before Zack and Aerith. Cissnei should be 24 in Rebirth.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Aerithgays have been seething since getting DOODbunked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love that we can now combine ship wars and Max opinion discussion with such ease

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud exists in two timelines simultaneously now, he can see Aerith because he’s in a timeline where she is alive, his party is upset because he’s existing in a time where she died too. That’s why he can see the sky and they can’t. Cloud is literally in limbo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most people think this or a variation of it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most people are sheep
        the DOODchads will prevail !

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          reminder that DOODguy had the exact same takeaway until he started thinking about it too long

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's probably it: he's aware of multiple timelines but the others are not, which is why they will still perceive him as a schizo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he's aware of multiple timelines but the others are not, which is why they will still perceive him as a schizo
        Tifa was shown the knowledge for a reason.
        She'll piece it together when she's fixing Cloud's mind.
        >Cloud has to come to grips with Remake Aerith's death
        >Tifa has to reconcile Aerith still being alive

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remake was the one he saved though because she lives first then the world swap happens

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah duh. It couldn't be any more obvious with him going through a portal solo.
      Also lol at "holding" a magical portal open.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesnt Tifa is an anchor for Cloud since she was from a time where he was normal therefore his attraction and attitude towards her can be genuine?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      his attraction to her is geniune, no doubt about that. The attitude though? Debatable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Most of Sephiroth's ability to dig his claws into Cloud's psyche is rooted in the fact that Cloud can't tell where his own personality ends and Sephiroth's gaslighting starts. So when Sephiroth says that Cloud is a puppet, it's not like Cloud can disprove it. But Tifa can. While he can plant seeds of doubt via get relationship, he doesn't have near the influence over her that he does with Cloud. So Cloud can use Tifa as his anchor to say who he is, what he is, and what he's fighting for.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      schizo cloud was fricking great

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heh heh heh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His best moments are him accusing Aerith of lying and chasing her like a zombie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved ultra schizo Cloud, the VA did great

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is everyone's
    >fave ship
    >opinion on Max's theory

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't consider it a "ship" because my pairing is the canon pairing, which means I'm not a shipper. Also everyone who supports any non canon pairing deserves abuse and death

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me x yuffie
      don't care about ecelebs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>fave ship
      Zissnei
      on Max's theory
      naw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      none, both ships are cancerous

      Max's thery is garbage and moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aeris/Cloud
      Literally who's literally what?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fave ship
      Multiverse/timeline shit will make each canon.
      >Opinion on Max's Theory
      The worst thing is that part 3 will likely play into both theories in someway
      >Sephiroth will impersonate Aerith at the northern crater to mindbreak cloud
      >However, it will be confirmed in the mideel lifestream scene that Aerith DID survive in another timeline, which will be enough consolation for Cloud to not be depressed for the rest of the game.
      The first part will be annoying because it will stoke Max's and his fans' ego so fricking much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not a shipper
      Max really is the worst person to listen to theories from. He is a lorelet that other lorelets look up to for some reason.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zack is a living wound in the Lifestream that only serves to sever and create offshoot worlds with his choices.
    However, Sephiroth seeks convergence, so as long as Zack persists with his indomitable will, Sephiroth will never have instrumentality.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shouldn’t there be a timeline where sephiroth never learns his past and never becomes evil?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good guy Sephiroth in part 3's party will be the real twist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ORE Sephiroth ends up helping us defeat WATASHI Sephiroth

        Kino

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ORE Sephiroth
          >WATASHI Sephiroth
          ???

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know
            You will NEVER see the truth with such clouded eyes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ORE Sephiroth
          >WATASHI Sephiroth
          ???

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Feels like that went nowhere

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This scene also went nowhere

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It didn't.
                Sephiroth planted the seed in his mind that Tifa is dead. That's all he needed.
                Aerith ruins his plans for Gaia.
                Tifa ruins his plans for Cloud.
                He wants both prostitutes disposed of in due time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its just Seph fricking with Cloud ala Lifestream Black. Seph needs Cloud to remember him to exist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know
            You will NEVER see the truth with such clouded eyes.

            I'm pretty much borderline moronic. I need a more thorough explanation.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Two different sephiroths in remake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No the timelines only started branching after they killed the arbiter of fate. Pay attention

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is it though? One timeline Aerith never even left Midgar, though i guess it’s never said if the rest did or not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah which matches up with the end of remake when they hadn't left yet

          Zack didn't have to fight arbiters when he made split timelines.

          There's only one arbiter and Cloud and co already killed it. But the question as to why Zack is alive is because of lifestream Aerith transporting him to a different timeline

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zack didn't have to fight arbiters when he made split timelines.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seph says that timelines are created when fate is altered. The Aribiter of Fate being destroyed is not a requirement for it. Zack creates one when he choses the tunnel to see Hojo over the tunnel to save Biggs. Seph is most likely moving his conciousness to his bodies present in different timelines, a blessing he gives Cloud to Cloud as well, and Lifestream Aerith can do it as well, since the single Lifestream connects the timelines.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah it's the timeline where all the Aeriths drown him before that happens

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Jenova is wrecking everyone’s shit
    >Pulling all its different forms from different timelines, seemingly without end
    >mindfricks everywhere as it shapeshifts into different people, trying to get you to drop your guard, real variety hour boss fights that test both your skills, and your knowledge
    >Zack shows up, it keeps coming
    >Aerith shows up, barely slows it down
    >Even fricking Shinra try to help, but it just won’t die
    >Cloud helpless, shit is going dark, impending tentacle rape
    >black feather fall
    >an unexpected hand helps him up
    >pic related
    >one winged angel.mp3
    >at last the tide begins to turn

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Max was mindbroke by the ending and had the jump shark because he, the big bad ff7 ultrafan, couldn't think of anything legitimate on the spot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Max is fricking garbage. He's not a "Superfan" of anything.
      He just clings to Square Enix and Capcom because those companies give him the time of day.
      For frick's sake he's a fighting game youtube who sucks at fighting games.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice spoilers gay
    So mass I literally just threw my plate off chicken tenders at the wall and got ketchup everywhere and now my mom is yelling at me to clean it up because of you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fake

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When is Rebirth Ultimania coming out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      April

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4-12

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aerith is pretty tough to have got through this scene:

    ?si=-nniPKOZg36yZqxU

    I feel likd nobody talks about how next-level psycho it is, even for Hojo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are doing a good job at showing how fricked up he can be with his experiments. It helps as he's going to be completely unhinged later on.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can notice how that helped her too later in the game

      When Corneo has them all lined up to choose his bride, Aerith maintains a neutral expresion when he's checking her out, unlike poor Tifa that can't keep the disgust out of her face

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think they'd rather Hojo or Corneo?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Corneo definitely. At least he's probably a climb on top, pumps for a few minutes and then he's done deal. Hojo probably does all kinds of weird shit during, and after.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Killing this homosexual will be so cathartic in part 3.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just can't take Shinra seriously in remake as they're just carracatures with no nuance. They could have done them n all so well but instead they're twirling mustache cartoon villains

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seems pretty accurate for soulless megacorp execs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They always were. Especially the executives (minus Reeve). Sure Hojo is more over the top but he's the only one who consistently gets results so his weirdness is overlooked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ??? They are much more human in remake what are you smoking? Well, except hojo, but unhinged psychopaths do exist

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cait Sith in the OG calls Heidegger and Scarlet Gyahahaha and Kyahahaha respectively. They were always cartoon villains.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, you ought to play the OG. In the OG they were even more cliches, in fact in remake they were more humanized, or at least the ones that deserve it, since scarlet and heidegger are just evil and thats it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I sincerely hope this is a troll post cause they were Gya/Kya-Ha-Ha-ing the entire way.

        Also Tifa choosing to do a slap fight with Scarlet even though she could probably just throw her off the canon into the sea below was kino. Hope they don’t remove that shit in part 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Killing this homosexual will be so cathartic in part 3.

      I hope Lifestream Aerith just biden blasts Hojo's soul out of the lifestream and completely obliterates him in part 3

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ifalna Strife

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerith's mom has got it goin on

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cute and canon Cetra daughter

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Max is a moron tbh
    He isn't very smart
    Not even hating I only watch him and distortion2 but the dude is a narcissist who did his own farts and thinks he's some literary god because he was right about p1
    I enjoy watching max play things since I usually she with him and he's the only streamer that fits the "feels like a bro" thing correctly but he is low iq
    which is why he's probably right because nomura is even lower iq

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he was right about p1
      He was right about Remake to the extent that everyone was right about Remake. It was not rocket science, since they SLOWED DOWN the Stamp bag in front of you in the ending cutscene, while also throwing the other Stamp in your face every five minutes the entirety of the game. This is not Lost level of hiding clues in plain sight. But Max only gets credit for things that other already figured out before him because he has the big audience.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The DOOD may seem to love everything in FF7, but in actuality, it’s only as long as it’s something with Tifa. He’d be seething at anything that indicates a Cloud/Aerith romance and constantly calls Aerith a b***h or a prostitute just for loving Cloud.

      Like he still somehow thinks that Hollow/NPTK is about Zack/Aerith KEK

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So this is the guy who turned the fanbase into morons just like him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Like he still somehow thinks that Hollow/NPTK is about Zack/Aerith KEK
        No way he thinks that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yep. Again, Max is dumb.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this as well. I cannot stand watching the majority of Rebirth playthrough as they develop into a Tifa dating sim.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon most playthroughs are going to devolve into a Tifa or an Aerith dating sim. There really isn't any way around this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats why the only ones I am watching are ones that did not know the date existed at all, and they have a general gamer personality which means they play the whole game and enjoy it.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Saving Aerith requires Ubitowers and hard mode

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know that the final game is going to be called something along the lines of Revival, Resurrection, or Reincarnation. It’s so obvious at this point that Aerith will be revived in all timelines somehow

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a worse girl than Lucretia Crescent.

    Protip: You cannot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >births satan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its a villain's name, vicent is delusional, shes a maneater

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was her problem unironically?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can only think of two women off the top of my head with that name, one from history and the other personally. Both were batshit.

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >play FFVII
    >great story
    >play FFVII R games
    >they frick everything up

    Fricking why?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They didn’t frick anything up. They made two great action rpgs that avoid the problems of modern games and have us discussing our shitty pet theories again

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's all an illusion. Always was.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the lorelets still have no idea how many levels Nojima is cooking on

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish we’d get a Rufus DLC, using his guns would be fun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      using his dick would be funner

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dood falseflagging, like we hadnt enough shitpostin already

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >defy Fate
    >create a Zack who lives
    >He creates two more

    Messing with timelines is clearly a bad idea

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      Zack is a living wound in the Lifestream that only serves to sever and create offshoot worlds with his choices.
      However, Sephiroth seeks convergence, so as long as Zack persists with his indomitable will, Sephiroth will never have instrumentality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >defy again
      >Aerith lives
      >creates another clusterfrick with black and white materias
      >somehow theres a overpowered omni Aerith that can jump ther conscience to other timelines and could face Sephirot by herself

      part 3 gonna be crazy, and problably a lot more dumber

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Rufus put up with Hojo? Even he should recognize this dude is bad mojo even by shinra standards. Even sephiroth is repulsed by the guy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does he put up with any of them? Guess it's just easier than having to rehire.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what if the worlds aren't worlds but jenova?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dood shut the frick up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *hits blunt*
      What if we’re jenova?

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who thinks aerith is dead is a moron and should stop posting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I assume you think she's dead, then.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She is dead in the 1997 timeline and a couple others at least

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go to bed, Cloud

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the most important piece of line in the game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so what, the worlds are all just Cloud's subconscious hopes and dreams given form by the spiritual energy?

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yo homies make a new thread so i can post my dumb theories

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DIY

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    red XIII is Jenova

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this image never fails to make me laugh
    tifakeks are fricking delusional holy shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ngl I initially felt bad for Tifa in AC. She simps so hard for Cloud but ultimately he would choose his dead soulmate over her annoying ass regardless.

      Her saying “A memory or us?” followed by a hard cut to Cloud fricking off yet again to the Forgotten Capital to talk to Aerith was the most unintentionally funny scene from AC.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what is reeve's motivation to be with the party now?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He wants to destroy Shinra so he can take their place with his new organization, the WRO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he thinks Yuffie is really cute

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