FF7:Rebirth

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t like this whole skull thing they are doing. Bring back the sextra design for jenova

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sexy Jenova is still a thing, looking at the original combat models of shit like Jenova Birth that face is clearly more like a skull and not meant to be the face Jenova puts on when pretending to be a Cetra.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jenova is a shape-shifter and this is her true form. Sexy Jenova is a mimicking of a Cetra woman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >noooo my eldritch horror shapeshifting alien waifu isnt actually a hot girl
      Your loss

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Hojo have sex with Jenova?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will Tifa and Cloud ever have their own kids

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tifa's womb is barren.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it is?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          during the events of the main game no but by the time advent children kicks around yes and also cloud shoots blank after all the mako poisoning and cellular modifications

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ...okay that's actually kind of fricking funny

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why didn't Hojo make Aerith and Sephiroth have sex and powerful offspring

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Sephiroth is a gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In Remake, Hojo was thinking about it if he could introduce to two (after he hears from Palmer at the meeting that Sephiroth was in the building)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He surely thought of it, but Aerith wasn't old enough to get pregnant at the time that she was in Hojo's custody and Sephiroth was alive. Also the other Shinra executives hate when he starts talking about his impregnation/birthing fetish. Also Sephiroth hates him. So it was a no go on getting that plan into action with Ifalna either.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sephiroth is unironically gay and Aerith was too young at the time. He does consider breeding her with S and G type SOLDIERs later, though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sephiroth is unironically gay
        There some short story I'm not familiar with or something?
        Far as I'm aware, he's never shown to show any interest towards anyone sexually.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Technically true, but his emotional fixation on pretty dudes and total lack of interest in anything female aside from muh mother at any point (in canon or spinoffs) does raise some questions.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just assumed he was asexual and was fricked up enough to where he had zero interest whatsoever.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Technically true, but his emotional fixation on pretty dudes and total lack of interest in anything female aside from muh mother at any point (in canon or spinoffs) does raise some questions.

              He doesn't have any interest in women because he's completely burdened with being the strongest soldier. People are ALWAYS calling on him to do shit. He's a workaholic. So when he starts hanging out with Zack and shit, he gets a little sappy and Zack being an adorable moron starts befriending him. Most people are afraid of Sephiroth but it's Zack who admires him along with Cloud.

              If he hadn't gone mad he probably would've become more social and gotten interested in women. People forget that environment has a lot to do with how someone grows up to behave. A change in environment can turn even the most asocial person social.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He’s not a workaholic, though. 1st Classes can refuse missions - which he does - and according to CC he spent a lot of time playing around with Genesis and Angeal. So we was plenty social, just not with anyone outside their special Jenova club. Kunsel also notes that Sephiroth and Genesis simply never found group activities appealing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Somehow there aren't any female SOLDIER members so it's not surprising he's not interested, the only girl we've ever seen him interact with is Tifa

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Reeve dramatically monologue to himself while sacrificing Cait Sith. I always assumed Cait Sith had to have some kind of auto pilot function or spirit but then in Rebirth they had the scene at Cosmo Canyon of Cait Sith needing to take a break and laying down while Reeve was in a meeting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cait has some level of independence, I think.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reeve wants to become a literal cat, he's a degenerate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cait Sith is an AI Shinra robocat, Reeve can control him whenever he pleases but he has some autonomy.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm now convinced on your theory Vaximilian

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still believe we'll get a playable Aerith section in part 3 where Cloud gets seperated from his friends in the whirlwind maze and goes through a dungeon with Aerith who suddenly appeared there and then at the end she turns into Jenova Death when the rest of the party catch up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She already did this in Rebirth. She turns into Jenova right around the start of the game. Didn't you see her CGI model? Shes literally Sehpiroth.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aerith will absolutely be getting an expanded role in the final act. Just like how Tifa got an expanded role in the early ones. Expect her and Zack to show up in the LS segment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I expect everyone to think Cloud is crazy about Aerith being alive, but then Tifa goes into the lifestream, sees Aerith is actually alive and able to help Tifa as a lifestream projection. Then Cloud becomes normal with Tifa now saying "Oh shit you are telling the truth about Aerith, lets go to the FC and see her." This will lead to a string of events where Aerith sends up smoke and has to be rescued. Eventually she fully rejoins the party, now including Zack, and everyone can see her now. Both Zack and Aerith survive the showdown with Sephiroth and get to live a happy life with everyone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sees Aerith is actually alive and able to help Tifa as a lifestream projection
        No one is denying that Aerith as being alive. Lifestream Aerith is already a thing. It's the Remake Aerith that "woke up" and is prancing around at the end that people are calling a schizo projection.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, is that what people are getting confused about?
          When people say Aerith is "dead", it's with the understanding that Aerith inside the Lifestream is still very much a thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No there are straight up people saying that even the reality where Aerith lives is just all in Cloud's head. They are applying this to all timelines and thinking all are just Cloud being a schizo. Now they are saying that Aerith is actualy Jenova in disguise messing with Cloud as a way to pretend theres no multiverse.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if there's a multiverse that means there are multiple Jenovas
              checkmate planetologists

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what most people are talking about.
              Majority of people are saying "yes, Aerith is still in the lifestream" as well as "the Aerith in the ending is Jenova mind frickery".

              So as it was said, it's people getting confused over what's actually being talked about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, the ones who believe jenovaerith are literal morons parroting their e-celeb. Nobody buys that shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, nobody cares about some e-celeb. The game directly shoves it into your face that something is off about the entire Aerith thing. This is in addition to the last part of the game very egregiously pointing out the Jenova mimicry.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's why Jenova looks sad when Clive isn't looking and tells him goodbye while the party is already far away. Aerith's love song for Cloud playing in the background is really a solid proof that it is really Jenova who is in love with Cloud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, we get you're upset by it for some weird reason

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally that theory didn't exist until Max said it, and he was among the slower players. It's just braindead morons parroting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Max thinks Aerith is Jenova from the moment he deflects the blade. He thought because she smiled at Cloud as she held his face was "creepy." This includes the wake up Aerith, and boss fight Aerith, and the pool scene Aerith.
                I'm shock the man is married and has kids if he thinks a girl couldn't smile. Max went full moron because he doesn't understand what a medley is during the whole sequence where Cloud deflects the blade. Because the medley includes Aeriths Theme and Jenova's themes it sold him that shes Jenova the entire time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who gives a frick what Max thinks.
                We're talking about the Jenova mimicry.
                The general theory most people are working on currently is that Aerith is still in the lifestream during what she needs to do (plus the White/Black lifestream bullshit that Nojima cooked up before). There's also the Aerith illusion Jenova is putting before Cloud. It's all set up for the 3rd game towards his eventual break down.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, nobody cares about some e-celeb. The game directly shoves it into your face that something is off about the entire Aerith thing. This is in addition to the last part of the game very egregiously pointing out the Jenova mimicry.

                Jenova is really something else when instead of following Cloud on the plane to mess with him, she just said a tearful goodbye as nptk played.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aerith is really something else when she's cheerfully encouring Cloud to go to Sephiroth why the rest of the party is grieving for some weird reason. Weird that she wouldn't point out to Cloud that he should probably console Tifa, the person she was clearly shown to be friends with and worried about throughout the rest of the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Theres a time skip. Aerith's last conversation implies that the two of them have a game plan that they worked out together offscreen. Why else would Cloud worry about her journey back? Aerith is obviously extremely aware of her situation and is trying to comfort her friends, something that Jenova wouldn't do. There would have been a moment where she had to tell Cloud she was staying behind, which he'd probably object to at first so she had to convince him with an honest reason. The thing is theres nothing in the ending that suggests Cloud didn't understand what was happening to her, since he fully trusts her and the plan. Hes also aware of other worlds so she could have told him thats what hes seeing. Its very possible she wanted him to keep it from the others for now, which is why he didn't converse with her until everyone else boarded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Aerith is obviously extremely aware of her situation and is trying to comfort her friends
                No she isn't. She's just walking around and looking at them.
                If she was wanting them comforted, she would've told Cloud (like she has throughout all of Rebirth) to talk to Tifa, to take care of himself, etc. She very blatantly doesn't do so here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't blame Max for sprouting moronic shit, but his orbiters clearly have no brain cells.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Max thinks
                STOP DICKRIDING THIS FRICKER.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This board is obsessed with e-celebs.
                So much so that just because one had an over-the-top theory, the more realistic theory everyone else has "cannot be true, because an e-celeb said something remotely similar".

                Ganker is kinda dumb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is Max is the biggest e-celeb in the FF7 community. His stream alone had 25k viewers, which some follow his every word. Now we are going to have people parroting his theory for the next several years. He did backtrack a bit on twitter, but its too late now since he already made his pitch. We had these threads every day for almost a month now, and the Jenova theory was never discussed until Max pushed it. Suddenly its the topic driving discussion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, people had this theory before he ever finished the game. Because the game throws it in your damn face.
                The problem is that people (understandably) hate e-celebs so much and are obsessed with them (less understandably), that just because an e-celeb said somethign similar, other people will forever rage on about that theory just like they did about the multiple timeline thing at the end of Remake.
                Who cares about some e-celeb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aerith being a Jenova plant was actually talked before, days before Max said.

                [...]

                The general consensus was that its a dumbass theory tho

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The general consensus was that its a dumbass theory tho
                Good. At least Ganker still has some sanity left.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He obviously wasn't the first person to think of it, but he spent the later hours of his stream cherry picking stuff to make his case that shes Jenova. Chat kept telling him to look at things like the rainbows, the cosmo canyon npc, cissnei, etc. He listened to all of them at first and watched several theory videos and quickly discarded everything once he thought "It would be so cool if shes Jenova." He had considered no counter arguments to his theory despite his chat calling him a moron, and when there were holes in theory he'd say "its just a game, theres a suspension of disbelieve" and that we have to just ignore all the holes.
                With theories you have to consider the whole picture, and Max tossed that out the window and used confirmation bias to prove his argument. At the end of his pitch he basically had "Aerith looks like sephiroth" and "Aeriths theme song was played during before Jeonva's theme."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What pissed me the most was when the chat called him out he went "Remember that everybody called me crazy when i predicted different timelines at the end of remake and shit". Just because he got something right he thinks he's the prophet and knows everything that will happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"Remember that everybody called me crazy when i predicted different timelines at the end of remake and shit".
                wasn't it obvious tho?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was obvious. But there were a WHOLE lot of people who were pissed with the theory and were very adamant that it wasn't a thing, and people were stupid for having that theory.
                It's like the Jenova thing here. It's very obvious, but people are mad that a streamer reached the obvious conclusion as well like weeks later after everyone else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aerith being Jenova plant was a topic here before and everyone called it moronic. Max said it and still everyone calls it moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone

                why did Jenova deliver a heartfelt goodbye to Cloud even after he flew away in the Bronco?

                Same reason Intergrade threw in that last Zack scene in front of the church and saying "Aerith" to all the crying people in the Church, or the random Stamp bag showing the different dog in Remake.
                Throw off the audience. There's zero reason for that in-game, but Square is perfectly fine using cheap tricks to keep players confused.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why did Jenova deliver a heartfelt goodbye to Cloud even after he flew away in the Bronco?

                Your literally replying to a deranged shitposter that’s been intentionally trying to ruin these threads since release. By giving him attention, it just emboldens him to spam the same shit every thread because he knows it will ruin actual discussion about the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the ever-living schizo shit are you talking about anon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why did Jenova deliver a heartfelt goodbye to Cloud even after he flew away in the Bronco?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. People were b***hing about it for months before everyone realised alternate timelines is a thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The theory video he watched was by a youtuber that called Remake's ending flawlessly, which Max based his Remake theories off of. That same Youtuber is not going with Max's theory and instead going with the general concencsus that multiple timelines are happening and Cloud is seeing both. Max could have just taken credit again and continued to be act like a prophet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The theory video he watched was by a youtuber that called Remake's ending flawlessly
                Literally who

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He isn't even the only one to have reached that conclusion.
                Too many people have PTSD about e-celebs that they'll instantly disregard something just because an e-celeb said it as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s moronic then and it’s still moronic now. I seriously fricking hate this guy. Nobody fricking care about this little b***h.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He did backtrack a bit on twitter, but its too late now
                Oh so now the people "parroting" him will no longer parrot him? Why is that?
                Does it mean they're making up their own answers and theorising about it? Like everyone is supposed to?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Listen to this man. Because an eceleb mentioned the Jenova theory, we must no longer even consider it even though the game shoves it into our faces that Jenova can 'take the face and voice of your loved one'.
                This is how moronic Clerithsisters are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >game shoves it into our faces
                You know, you have an incredibly limited vernacular for someone pretending to be more than one person spamming shitposts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nooo everyone is not calling me moronic its just one guy

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So it seems like Aerith is stuck between dimensions partially in the dimension cloud is in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. She'll eventually have the power to control/merge timelines in her favor, like she does in the church scene.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Aerithgays are seething after getting DOODbunked

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they make Rufus's dialogue gayer in English?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just finished it and it's an amazing game. Question, during the final date Sephiroth appears at the end does that mean he's been killing Aerith's in all timelines?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could be interpreted hes hunting all Aeriths. She needs Cloud to protect her afterall, like Marlene said. Its also theorized that Aerith in specific was the OG Aerith/Aeris. But her will is still alive and well helping Cloud and Zack throughout all timelines.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh shit, so in the timeline where Aerith lives there are no other party members. That explains why they disappear when she wakes up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He’s been trying to at least. That being said shouldn’t there be a timeline where sephiroth doesn’t learn what happened in nibelheim?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last game is going to be titled Resurrection Revival or Reincarnation, no way it won’t be because they’ll absolutely bring Aerith back in a perfected timeline now.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She cute

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being so moronic they used reunion for crisis core

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy 7 Refund

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Handholding with your true love vs your rebound

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cloud obviously likes Tifa but he loves Aerith.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cloud literally never smiles around Tifa kek peak romance btw

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bad ending timeline leads into AC
        >Cloud ghosts her and the kids

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there are "people" out there who want cloud to get the depressed mailman ending rather than the quarter cetra twins ending

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerith is tailor made for a dumb lonely autist like Cloud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Taking photos with my wife vs my booty call

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is Tifa destined to be eternally cucked?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So this is the "real" Cloud that Tifa stand insist that he drags out?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tifagays insisting that Cloud is only his “real self” around Tifa when its been confirmed in the Remake Ultimania that Cloud only larps as Zack in his “fantasy persona” around Tifa is peak irony. This is not mentioned to happen around Aerith btw

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Reminder that the Rebirth Ultimania comes out in 17 days and will give us even more material to btfo Tifagays with

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >17 days until jenovaerith tards are btfo
                >17 days until the aerith scenes are confirmed canon
                >17 days until every single tifa scene gets shat all over
                Can't fricking wait. Tigays have been the most insufferable little twats for over 2 decades. They deserve everything they get.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t get too wienery just in case it blows back in our face. Let’s just shit back and hope for the best until it’s all over and done with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Remake Ultimania
                >kills the Tifa hug
                >kills the flower gifting scene
                I cant wait to see what gets hit next. Probably the date kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Guarantee it will say Cloud started feeling jealous of Zack. They already said in the Remake Ultimania that the reason Cloud's mind flickered when he heard Aerith say Zack's name is because he was jealous and didn't want to accept the thought of another guy sitting there with Aerith on the same spot that he does.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are right anon. I cant wait to see what new shit we can add to the list. Im hoping the ultimania also clears up the Aerith dream date so morons can stop being disingenuous about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"Cloud decides to make the play-acting with Andrea the best he can because Aerith is cheering him on"
                >intentionally fail every qte
                devilish

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sadly, the dream date localization is atrocious. Thankfully, Ultimania usually references the original Japanese line. But still, some people would be in denial.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cloud feels his heart race when in the park their shoulders brush
                >He probably felt the same during the Aerith date
                Cute

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cloud just needed some pussy to clear his head for the next day where he set it to save his beautiful wife aeris, so he pumped Tifa

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        somebody photoshop the "JUST" eyes onto Tifa in this pic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >top
      >manipulated by someone who knows the entire future and still has to come on to you like thirsty prostitute just to ensure her own survival
      >bottom
      >comfy handholding and no-stress time spent with someone who actually loves you
      Damn you're right, Tifa really is the true love

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >manipulated by someone who knows the entire future
        By the Chapter 8 date Aerith doesnt have any future memories as we see her holy materia is clear by the time they get to Costa del sol.
        >time spent with someone who actually loves you
        Why yes someone who lies to you and enables your schizo delusions is indeed the perfect partner. No wonder Tifa speaks to you homosexual.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She's a weak minded yes man who's in love with a romanticised fantasy she has of a boy she barely knew but got a reluctant promise out of.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cute bubbly girl to pull you around and accept all of your flaws
      >some western physical features, because it's hot

      >traditional JP girl, but a total nag
      >big breasts and long black hair, but she keeps telling you to stop drinking so much

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >frick up the Gongaga mushroom minigame because the "give" areas look the fricking same
    >neglected to save immediately before trying it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does it even matter? You can complete the quest with fricked up mushrooms too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the percentage for Aerith less if it's not perfect?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, good point. You should still be able to get HA if you do the rest of the quests and conversations right, though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do we know what the HA cut off is yet?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Cait Sith turn into a frog?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She’s in the timeline somehow since red notices her touching him

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zissnei

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zissnei? Zamn!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shes going to make lots of baby Turks

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifa is a female chad

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised not many people have the beat game on hard trophy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Normal taught me too many bad habits and I keep getting BTFO on Hard. I'm also pretty fricking burned out after putting in so many hours. I'll probably revisit later but I've just had enough for now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some are probably still working on it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Game is 100 hrs long. I'm not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Game is pretty long. I platinumed and 100% it in 160 hours.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Platinum wasn't free, thats for sure. But I think its not that wild. FFXV was a harder game to platinum, at least with its multiplayer DLC. Its one thing to beat tough bosses in a singleplayer game, but FFXV required you have a team of 4 players all playing at top level to win. Trying to solo Comrades with AIs is pretty much impossible.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FFXV was a harder game to platinum
        Disagree. Also, multiplayer trophies are not included to obtain platinum.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I still 100% everything including the DLC trophies. Maybe its a personal preference, but this kind of combat just isn't my thing with multiplayer. I tried to solo everything and got decently far, but working together is pretty difficult especially if you matching with randoms.
          I'll always prefer Dark Souls/Elden Ring to games like Monster Hunter because the Souls games are designed around singleplayer combat. Also MH World required an unreasonable amount of grinding to 100%, so I never bothered with that completetion.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the Aerith in a coma still alive?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, and there are multiple confirmed timelines with her still. She'll be used as insurance incase Aerith ever needs a new body. Remember Cloud stole his coma body and physically brought it back with him to his timeline.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hollow
    >Aerith gives Cloud her empty materia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With your every smile hiding something more
      Dark mysteries lurking beneath
      But I was consumed with this emptiness
      This selfishness, this void to fill

      Every lyric of Hollow has meaning now with Rebirth context. If Part 3’s song is not a Cloud/Aerith duet its a missed opportunity

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. Hollow was about Cloud and Zack. NPTK was about Cloud and Aerith. Part 3's song will be about Cloud and Cloud.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think two timelines merged improperly and for cloud aerith is alive in his timeline but for everyone else she is dead. Nothing else makes any sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you still a schizo if you are technically in the right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe, i don’t have any other good answers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read

      It could be interpreted hes hunting all Aeriths. She needs Cloud to protect her afterall, like Marlene said. Its also theorized that Aerith in specific was the OG Aerith/Aeris. But her will is still alive and well helping Cloud and Zack throughout all timelines.

      if you haven't.

      As far as I understand only Cloud entered the reality where he saves her, so the others don't exist. Cloud exists in both and can freely interact between the two worlds. Aerith has limited interaction with the other timeline as she can see the others and touch them.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So which of the overlapping universes is the "original"? Did we save "our" Aerith or is she a copy from a alt universe?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Copy I think, the 1997 Aerith is dead dead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So which of the overlapping universes is the "original"?
      The OG FF7.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We saved our Aerith.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go to bed Cloud.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My beautiful wife Aerith

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      honestly if Aerith and Tifa's places were reversed Cloud would have had a much better childhood

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely. Aerith would give him what he needed the most which is uncondicional support and acceptance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Given Aerith's personality she would've fricked off with the other kids as well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aerith was an outcast, the other kids her age didn't want to play with her and she was alone pretty much her entire childhood.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She would have told Emilo and "the gang" to go frick themselves and actually been there for Cloud.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jenova is best girl.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Aerith even die at point anyway? She’s basically a goddess with near complete control over the lifestream. I feel like if she wants to come back, she can.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can Aerith even die at point anyway?
      Pretty sure that's exactly what Sephiroth is trying to do. Why else would he bother trying to find her "hidden in worlds"?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. And it's not because Aerith is now Schrodinger's cat being a quantum superposition of alive and dead at the same time. It's because of marketing. The same reason why Zack gets a universe all to himself even though in the context of the setting, he's just a guy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, which is why you should shrug at anyone who thinks she won't survive the ending. The original OG Aeris is in the lifestream and is actively using her god powers to create a happy timeline. Look at Zack, she can not only control parallel worlds, but she can also control worlds at different points in time since Zack died well before the events of Remake. Everytime Zack seemingly dies in Rebirth, she either creates a new timeline or sends him directly between worlds. She can just always ensure hes alive. Even when it seems she herself is "dead" she can still just use her powers to protect Zack. He even tries to commit suicide in the Biggs timeline, but lives anyways in another, so he can't sacrifice himself for the greater good.

      Theres no rational reason to suggest a timelord can't survive. As far as I know theres never been a story ever where a timelord protag has died in the ending. But stepping outside the games logic, ask yourself why would the writers give her these powers in the first place and change the plot this much? If they were to end R3 with Aerith dying, then there was absolutely no reason to change the plot in the first place. They have to commit to this direction now, otherwise it pisses off everyone who wanted no changes to begin with, and everyone who wanted changes.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly after Rebirth I've done a 180 on Nojima's writing. Dude knows his shit.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud and Jenova are so cute together

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They played the Jenova manipulation so god damn good

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe Jenova wrote Cloud a love song and sang it as he flew away into the sky.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is the one caught between timelines, not Aerith. In cloud’s timeline Aerith is alive. In the party’s timeline she is dead. Cloud is stuck in limbo

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is actually his real self around Yuffie

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the first hour of part 3 will be Cloud snowboarding just after Aerith died while the gang are still depressed
    >also Cloud will start calling and referring Tifa as Aerith while also seeing and interacting with force ghost Aerith in every chapter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >also Cloud will start calling and referring Tifa as Aerith while also seeing and interacting with force ghost Aerith in every chapter
      The idea is that she stayed in the ancient city trying to get Holy to work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He also said he'll come to visit if she sends the smoke signal, so we can have sidequests with Cloud visiting her in the City while the party gets increasingly traumatized.
        >We have to go snowboarding, Aerith is gonna love the photos
        >These flowers look nice, Aerith is gonna love them
        >Aerith said we should investigate that weird cave behind the waterfall

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm going to name this Gold Chocobo, Aerith
          >HEYA CLOUD WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU
          >TIFA IS HERE CRYING
          >Who is Tifa?
          >Anyway we need to go Rocket Town, Aerith is waiting for me there

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >CLOUD WE'RE IN SPACE ABOUT TO BLOW UP METEOR AND YOU ARE TAKING A SELFIE???
          >it's for Aerith haha

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He also said he'll come to visit if she sends the smoke signal, so we can have sidequests with Cloud visiting her in the City while the party gets increasingly traumatized.
            >We have to go snowboarding, Aerith is gonna love the photos
            >These flowers look nice, Aerith is gonna love them
            >Aerith said we should investigate that weird cave behind the waterfall

            Imagine if they implemented Prompto's photo mechanic from XV in Part 3.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >WE'RE IN SPACE ABOUT TO BLOW UP METEOR
            What is this? Armageddon with Bruce Willis?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cloud how can you snowboard after everything that happened
      >hey, it looks fun. yo Aerith, you coming?
      holy frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Aerith, once this is all over
        >We should go back to Nibelheim, you can start a flower garden in there

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Aerith, once this is all over
        >We should go back to Nibelheim, you can start a flower garden in there

        The should go all in with shit like this. It'd be fricking amazing. I'd also love a "wear the fricking wig, tifa" scene but that might be a little much to ask for.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Rebirth was constant "LOOK GUYS, IT'S SEPHIROTH"
          >next game will be constant "LOOK GUYS, IT'S AERITH"
          kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cloud, do you like Tifa?
          >Who is that Aerith?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I can’t wait to go snowboarding.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Red calls Tifa a whale
    What the frick is his problem?

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We went from Jenova is Tifa to Jenova is Aerith. What the hell is wrong with this fanbase?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's literally Jenova fricking with Cloud's mind with Aerith illusions. The game lays it on super goddamn thick in the last chapter how she used the faces of the dead to manipulate the Cetra in the past.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jenovas both Aerith and Tifa. Shes also Cait Sith too. You mean to tell me robocat just had another body waiting and ready to go? Hell no, thats Jenova as frick. Vincent too, the gay sleeps in a coffin all day and would suffocate. Jenova is really a pro at this and the game LITERALLY TELLS US like the entirety of Sephiroths speech during the final fight he says that Jenova is literally going to become his friends. LIKE ITS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, and even when you fight Jenova.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sort of weird how Aerith is just completely not letting Cloud know why all his party members are so depressed, why it skipped the "dropping her body into the pool scene", and why the music was so weird and creepy after he had the weird head mako headache recalling her death and he looked at Aerith suddenly there with her smiling at him.

          Stop being weird anon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wait Aerith smiled?! That fricking settles it, theres no way shes not Sephiroth in disguise.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >proud in having no media literacy
              grim

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >salesgay shitposter outing himself as the jenova/aerith shitposter
                grim

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shitposter
                Nobody is shitposting about this anon. The game is literally telling you this is the case.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't worry. There are also no multiple timelines, just like you argued after Remake. Right?
              Don't put 2 seconds thought into it, accept at face value a several decade game about alien mind frickery puts out in your face. The OG definitely didn't have anything like that either, everything was face value the entire time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just clotards being btfo as usual.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely have no idea why people are shitting themselves with that theory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The number of people super angry about the theory existing is insane.
        There are two anons losing their minds over it in this thread.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is actually Jenova

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'M ALREADY HALF-SEPHIROTH

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My wife is so cute

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      really dumb thought, not saying it'd proof anything
      but have people done anything like comparing "Jenova"'s and Aerith's face models?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, Max Dood claims Aerith's CG model looks like Sephiroth because it's different from her normal model. I'm serious btw.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          does that make Cloud from Wutai kek
          real talk, I wouldn't be surprised if they did SOMETHING with the original design concept behind Aerith & Sephiroth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're both super speshul time lords now, isn't that enough?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moron, are you saying you don't see it? Shes literally the exact same model as Sephiroth. Its Sephiroth except with Aerith's hair, face and body, and quirks, and feelings and personality. But besides that its 1:1. He also cares deeply about Red now too, didn't you pay attention?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sephiroth, take off the Aerith wig
            >now give it to Tifa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think you would have to jump the shark, with some pretty extreme timeline frickery, in order to turn Aerith into Jenova.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its crazy that Jenova fell in love with Cloud in the shot where she stands in the flowerfield and says goodbye while she sings her love song.
        Cloud is a cougar milf magnet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          THEY'RE A SYMBOL OF REUNION

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No? Are you moronic?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its crazy that Jenova fell in love with Cloud in the shot where she stands in the flowerfield and says goodbye while she sings her love song.
      Cloud is a cougar milf magnet.

      No? Are you moronic?

      My calamity from the sky can't be this cute!

      I know right? Like Jenova is right there the entire time. Her face is identical to Aerith. I just don't understand why people didn't see theis sooner. All the rainbows are just Jenova, and it should have been obvious since Jenova Aerith created a rainbow portal in the church. You know Jenova is pretty sweet to Cloud and even wrote him a love song.

      Aerith = Jenova... lmao

      Incredibly moronic theory. How about Cloud = Sephiroth, to make the story even more ridiculous? Maybe we could even make Lavos the offspring of Jenova-Aerith and Sephiroth-Cloud?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cloud = Sephiroth
        Sephiroth has been called Cloud's alter ego for decades and I never really got it until the Gongaga reactor scene

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sephiroth has been called Cloud's alter ego for decades
          I can barely articulate in words how much I loathe SE for leaning into this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think people are sleeping on the Barret = Geno from SMRPG theory. Both have guns for hands, brown faces and Geno is from another world with a real name thats a secret. Barret is controlling the puppet spiritually and it makes sense since Geno and friends are able to visit Final Fantasy world to fight Culex.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nu-FF7 fans are now as moronic as FF8 fans

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FF7 writers are moronic
        The actual correct takeaway. Kojima's wild ride is nothing new. Jenova using the image of Aerith is frankly one of the less oddball things he might've come up with, and at least has some precedence.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Kojima
          *Nojima

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did it frens! Just under 100 hours! Quite the difference where I spent 40-45 hours or so on Remake.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Peak comedy!

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My calamity from the sky can't be this cute!

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God why is Cloud such an autist. The Aerith date in inter dimensional Midgar was driving me nuts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >first Cloud was a chocobo
      >now he's a flower
      homie JUST GET A HAIRCUT

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Max is a moron and you embarrass yourself if you listen to mr irl soijack

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is actually his real self when he is Jenova

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sephiroth should just have sex with cloud

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is hilarious
    There are an awful lot of asschapped anons about a very blatant Jenova behavior that the game bashes you over the skull about over and over
    Don't really understand why that is. It's very similar to the "there are no multiple timelines" backlash after Remake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know right? Like Jenova is right there the entire time. Her face is identical to Aerith. I just don't understand why people didn't see theis sooner. All the rainbows are just Jenova, and it should have been obvious since Jenova Aerith created a rainbow portal in the church. You know Jenova is pretty sweet to Cloud and even wrote him a love song.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe Jenova is a slum prostitute!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought we were talking about Jenova-Aerith not Jenova-Tifa

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can't believe that Jenova would 36DDD chess herself and hide in a dream world with Cloud to give him the white materia and then stab herself from behind with the masamune.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jokes aside, I forgot how big of a theme "identity" is in 7
    sure there is the obvious thing with Cloud and "Cloud" but then you have stuff like Sephiroth/Jenova, Red/Nanaki, Marlene's dad, Rufus, Cait Sith
    a lot of people pretending

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Rufus
      Glad they're going to develop him a bit more, he was kind of an afterthought in the og and his actions never made much sense to me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I need a name for my wutai supporter persona
        >...PERFECT

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They all bought it
          Rufus is so clever

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine having sex with jenova

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey Cid
    >We're going to name this ship Aerith

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      remember when Cid got an ANCIENT SHIP in DoC?

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sephiroth's final mindfrick will be the one where he tells Cloud he's a fictional character made by guys who like their from Wutai.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ughm C-cloud, remember when we first met?
    >YES AERITH YOU SHOVED A FLOWER TO MY FACE

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >o-oh… another pink ribbon, cloud? that’s very thoughtful of you, really… n-no, i love it. i’m just going to put it with the rest of them so nothing happens to it…

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you VILL equip Tifa with Ribbon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We better get Tifa wearing a pink ribbon

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People arguing about Cloud x Aerith and Cloud x Tifa for decades now when the obvious answer and the true ship is Cloud x Jenova. Clonova.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turns out the Cloud/Sephiroth fujos were right all along.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sephiroth reveals the reunion was about the next Dissidia game.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All posters ITT are Jenova-Anons.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God, imagine being Jenova. The ability to shapeshift to any hot babe of your liking and furiously jerk off in front of a mirror or even better, get fricked silly by random strangers. Imagine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cetra society has fallen
      billions must die

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cloud, you must meet a man named Genesis Rhapsodos. Only he can defeat Sephiroth for good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The world needs a new hero!

      Seriously, what the frick did SE mean by this?

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some interesting JP script clarifications:
    -Aerith says 'Arigato' (Thank you, contextually also means I love you - Yuna said this to Tidus at the end of FFX) to Cloud when they're hugging at the sector 5 date. This explains why Cloud reacts so strongly at her 'Thank you' line.
    -Aerith says 'Sayonara' to him twice, once at the Sector 5 date and once at the end of the game. Sayonara (lit "If it must be so") usually means "goodbye forever." The fact that Lifestream Aerith said it to Cloud and then showed up again for the final battle means she didn't expect Cloud to successfully split the timeline and save her. If it weren't for this and NPTK, I'd take the final Sayonara as pretty definitive proof that the ending Aerith doesn't expect to see Cloud again.
    -Aerith says 'this materia can definitely save the world' rather than 'it's not about me, it's about saving you, and the world.' Definitely, 'kitto' is repeated during their ending convo in place of the 'You promise?' lines - a particularly egregious mistranslation given No Promises to Keep.

    Overall, the JP script more strongly confirms Aerith's feelings for Cloud but lowers the chance that we'll conclusively save or see her in part III. It's still entirely possible that Aerith doesn't expect Cloud to be able to pull it off - LS Aerith was similarly shown to be mistaken with her Sayonara - but it's definitely not the unambiguous slam dunk that NPTK + the defying fate theme alone would imply.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See, we have a good post here backed by evidence and comprehensive understanding of the Japanese script and everyone ignored it in favor of validating some mentally ill shitposter that used to spam saleshomosexualry until people completely stopped replying to him and is intentionally trying desperately to derail these threads for over 3 weeks straight now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody is talking about saleshomosexualry. What schizo shit are you whining about?

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Suddenly all those people who didn't understand that the "Sephiroths" in the OG you see before Northern Crater were Jenova, and thought they were actually Sephiroth each time makes sense.

    There's a surprising number of people completely incapable of picking up context clues without having a character directly say exactly what is happening.

    I initially thought Sephiroth describing the multiple timelines in this was way too direct and would take people out of it, but apparently it was very necessary or else we'd still have people saying there weren't multiple timelines.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The world needs a new hero!

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what if the whole remake and rebirth game is just cloud's headcanon while he's mindbroken

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can't believe e-celeb would say "bait" theory just for clout

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if the Aerith from Kingdom Hearts shows up in part 3?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ...it's going to be like this again, is it?
    Where a few anons got super mad about the "multiple timelines" theory everyone had at the end of Remake and cried that it wasn't true for 4 years?
    Well okay then.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in the original was sephiroth so incredibly gay for cloud? the homoeroticism between the two is next level in rebirth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's why the Jenova theory is valid. Jenova is using her son's body to seduce Cloud to do her bidding

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifa died at Nibelheim, she has no scar. Tifa is Jenova.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tifa is sometimes Jenova but is also sometimes not

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In making the joke, you actually almost got there. You almost picked up on a context clue, but are too focused on being mad about it to comprehend it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure it's purely because of age rating reasons but we (the player) never gets to see the scar
      really makes you think

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is with Tifatards parroting eceleb shit? Should we tell them how Cloud handled real Jenova in Gongaga?

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if Cloud actually schizos his way into saving Aerith will it make him the best FF protagonist?

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is Jenova too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want to FRICK Jenova!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would Cloud be ok having doormat gf?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, Cloud needs an older girl to keep him in check. A thousands years old calamity sounds perfect if you think about it.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm actually pretty moronic how did tifa survive going inside the weapon and how did she get out of it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some shit about weapons being protectors and the lifestream being acrually benevolent but it's Sephiroth/Jenova that causes mako poisoning
      btw how do we get from weird whales to whatever the frick Ruby weapon is supposed to be?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mahou shoujo transformation sequence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm thinking that the weapons we're seeing now are just a warning that something is happening to the planet. It's when the planet goes defcon 1 that Ultima, Emerald, Diamond and Ruby finally appears.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably a way to justify how Tifa saves Cloud when he becomes moronic.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anons... I am Jenova...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I... I...
      I thought you were a GEP gun

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aerith will definitely be saved in 3. Villains always win in the second part of any story.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh, the anon that's angry about the Jenova thing is a shipper gay? That's what this is about?

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >instead of Jenova appearing as Tifa telling Red XIII to bring the Black Materia to Cloud in the Northern Crater like in the OG, it will be Jenova as Aerith since he'll be more more easily manipulated due to their bonding over the whisper/future thing

    ...I see what you're doing devs. Clever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plus Cloud would listen to "Aerith" telling him to do things, instead of fighting "Sephiroth" every step of the way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >instead of Jenova appearing as Tifa telling Red XIII to bring the Black Materia to Cloud in the Northern Crater like in the OG, it will be Jenova as Aerith since he'll be more more easily manipulated due to their bonding over the whisper/future thing

        ...I see what you're doing devs. Clever.

        Jenova has never in the entirety of FF7 been shown to possess any consciousness remaining

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Play the OG.
          A fake Tifa tells Red XIII (or Barret, depending on who you tell to hold the Black Materia) to bring Cloud the Black Materia.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >akshually
          it's even scarier if you imagine her being stuck in the Nibelheim reactor, silenty seething at the world

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are we discussing OG FF7 here moron?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That would also explain Sephiroth suddenly stopping his fight with lifestream Aerith and Cloud, just smiling and laughing a little (Cloud: Why is he laughing) and him just then flying away.
        It becomes obvious to him how best to manipulate Cloud. Aerith.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah Sephy was gonna get bodied if they continued that fight. It's the first time I've seen his face get angry.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's just his gamer face
            he cookin'

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He sure looks happy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now show the part after the fight, where he smiles and starts laughing then flies away.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just to clarify, I am not owned

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ?
                Did you click on the wrong post? This doesn't make sense in context.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Aerith already told you why he was laughing. Part 3 still has to come out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the character didn't directly state the reason
                Why would Aerith realize what he planned to do?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah because like Cloud said, it's not over yet. But the whole thing actually shows you that he can actually be beaten. Even at the start of the fight Sephiroth wasn't expecting this stuff to happen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cloud, bring me the Black Materia.
        >sure thing here you go Aerith
        cue everyone in the party losing their shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also a great way to really make an audience hate a villain. Use a beloved character that everyone likes to manipulate people she cares about.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    of course Jenova loves Cloud, she's his mother after all!

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can we go back to Aerithposting or Clerithposting now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about Yuffieposting for a change?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. A lot of people are finishing the game now so theories are being thrown left and right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >time to take responsibility, cloud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerith's cute butt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, we are doing CloudxJenova posting now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cloud's wife is so pretty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Real talk. How many children is she going to give Cloud in the ending?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least 2, Nojima already foreshadowed a daughter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            can the babies shapeshift too?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, they take it after mommy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf this is soo cute. A happy ending for Cloud with Aerith like this, will be the biggest surprise. This will be a genius move from Nojima and Kitase. Not a lot people will be expecting this. We are so used to see the characters sad and depressed for 27 years now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          reunite at loveless street after the ending > marry in the weeks > move to Elmyra's house > one daughter is showed after a timeskip

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least a daughter since the book that just came out sets up that much

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >more Cetra
            >mfw the crazy conspiracy theory that Genesis and Aerith are related might not be so insane after all

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That one doesn't make an ounce of sense, though. Genesis very clearly had parents who were apparently very wealthy, unless they pull a "well actually" that wasn't previously established.

              I'm not saying it isn't in the realm of possibility, since Nojima/Kitase does fricking weird ass shit. But it would be out of left field.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Genesis very clearly had parents who were apparently very wealthy, unless they pull a "well actually" that wasn't previously established.
                That's the thing - those people canonically weren't his biological parents; they were Shinra associates who got paid for observing him and reporting his progress to Shinra after Project G itself was shut down. It's part of the reason why he flipped out so hard: Not only was he dying of a horrible illness he was engineered with, but his entire life including his family was a total lie.

                His real biological parents have never been mentioned anywhere, which is interesting because we do know the bio parents of Angeal and Sephiroth.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’d be happy if the ending was actually just a pan shot of a fireplace mantle with a bunch of photos of Cloud and Aerith’s life together with their kids with a flower vase with a reunion flower in it next the last photo (their selfie).

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember Genesis?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can't wait to see him in the third game or rebirth's dlc "that won't happen"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >degradation, Loveless, and Banora Apples front and center
      It's hard not to.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So other than the "get a party member to bring the Black Materia to Cloud" thing in the Northern Crater, what else do we expect fake Aerith to get Cloud to do? Or will it just be goading him towards Sephiroth the entire time?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cloud is going to have sex with her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok why would "Aerith" be with Cloud? He knows he left her at the Temple.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She'd "send up smoke" just like she said.
        He also knows he was in SOLDIER, and up until getting to the Nibelheim inn, that he never knew Zack (then suddenly knew he existed, but then had false memories of Zack drowning to patch up the discrepancy).

        In case it's missed, Cloud having unreliable memories or accounts of things is a major theme.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Considering the "Glenn/Sephiroth" thing, will probably need to use "Aerith" to manipulate him with something on whatever expanded thing they're doing for Wutai. Whether it's to convince him to not get involved, so that he stays focused on getting to Real Sephiroth at Northern Crater, or some other plot point they haven't shown us yet.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does Aerith always tease Tifa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She does that in OG too. If you bring Tifa with you to the Temple of the Ancients then when Aerith asks Cait Sith if she and Cloud have a future together, Tifa will just look away and pout as Cait Sith gushes about how perfect Cloud and Aerith are for each other

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder how they will fit that all in considering Tifa and Aerith are like best friends in the new FF7 games

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They already kind of did Cait’s prediction with Cloud and Barret at the hotel and the whole “you’ll lose what you cherish most” reading

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where is this, I dont remember this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Entering the Mythril Mines.

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait for the Ultimania to put this moronic theory to rest.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok but why didn't Hojo create another Sephiroth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's the plot of 7. him trying to create more Sephiroths

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, he could have impregnated another woman
        The black robes seem like a waste of resources

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You have to remember the type of company Shinra is. They want more, more, more as fast as possible. After Sephiroth, Hojo's mandate was probably find a way to make more of him without needing to cuck a federal agent then take the baby from its weeping mother. Yes the lack of familial suffering might reduce the quality but if there's more of them then it balances out. Hence the SOLDIER program

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn’t that his endgame?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think Genesis and Angeal were?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hollander's project

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know it's kind of funny

        Genesis inherited Jenova's trait of infecting others with her cells and turning them into her slaves. Also the shape-shifting. That's how the Genesis clones were made. Does Remake talk about that at all or is Cr*s*s C*re noncanon now?

        Angeal also inherited Jenova's trait of taking in cells from others to transform himself. Although he just turns into a giant monster rather than a waifu with eyeballs on her breasts.

        Meanwhile Sephiroth is considered the successful one even though his trait is just that he's really fricking strong

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anything that happened in Crisis Core was buried by Shinra.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except degradation I suppose

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Only a handful of people knows it’s cellular degradation. Most thinks it’s Mako poisoning.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rebirth makes it seem like it's a well-known rumor, though nobody knows the details and SOLDIERS themselves don't want to believe it because it's too horrible to imagine.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Degradation and G-Type SOLDIERs are canon to the Remake, so it's safe to say the rest is too. Genesis also has some other funky stuff going on with him, according to the devs here

          [...]
          Seriously, what the frick did SE mean by this?

          >Meanwhile Sephiroth is considered the successful one even though his trait is just that he's really fricking strong
          He also looks nicely alien and is immune to turbo AIDS cancer, so that's another huge plus.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Angeal was at least seen in a PSP flashback in Remake right when Hojo gets taken away by the jannies so I guess he’s still canon. You also see a white feather float down on Zack at the beginning of Rebirth when he’s dragging Cloud into Midgar so I assume he has some relevance to the future plot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Jenova Project lasted years and produced only three surviving specimens, with one being terminally ill and another pretty much a really strong normal person. Also, zero new Cetra to lead Shinra to the Promised Land. Logistically and financially, it ultimately made more sense to start enhancing normal people than to spend years raising Jenova snowflakes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know what's insane? Hojo knew Jenova wasn't an Ancient at least by the time he killed Dr. Gast and kidnapped Ifalna and Aerith. And he moved forward with the Jenova project and SOLDIER anyway. Even Rufus didn't know about Jenova's true nature. In the OG this dialogue happens after Hojo kills Gast

        >Gast
        >Ifalna! Take Aeris and run!!

        >[There is a gunshot and a thud.]

        >Ifalna
        >Eyaaaaaah... Darling......!!

        >Hojo
        >Oh, and uh... don't forget the child!
        >Hmm, a video? The Ancients... Weapon!?
        >Heh, heh, heh... a mountain of treasure! >Thank you Professor... Ha, ha, ha

        And then when Rufus reaches the Northern Crater, this dialogue happens

        >Hojo
        >Weapon...
        >Then it really does exist... I didn't believe in it.

        >Rufus
        >What does this mean?

        >Hojo
        >...Weapon. Monsters created by the Planet.
        >It appears when the Planet is in danger, reducing everything to nothingness.
        >That's what was stated in Professor Gast's report.

        >Rufus
        >I never saw that report... Where is it?

        >[Hojo taps his head.]

        >Hojo
        >Here, right here.

        >Rufus
        >You keep a lot of things to yourself.

        Hojo is an actual fricking monster

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Shinra knows Ifalna is a cetra
          >Shinra thinks Jenova is a cetra
          >Except Ifalna looks normal while Jenova has eyeballs for nipples
          Let's be honest Hojo was the only one with a brain in Shinra

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In Remake there were 3 Sephiroth's iirc
    >black robes being remote controlled
    >Cloud's imagination
    >the actual one causing shit to happen

    The Aerith we/Cloud/the others see doesn't have to be one and the same

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is Sephiroth not more famous in the game? nobody seems to know who he is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's like asking why Audi Murphy isn't more famous. He's an extremely decorated American soldier but he's not relevant to most people's lives. Even then, many people know who Sephiroth is, they just think he's dead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the public perception is that he’s been dead for years.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actually utilizing the Jenova thing as a major plot point is probably one of the better ideas they've had, in a sea of bad ideas they've done for this Remake trilogy.
    It seems like such an obvious thing to do, that it's kind of weird they didn't really use it beyond the one scene in Norther Crater and fake Sephiroth appearances.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually think the "Aerith" thing will only be used sparingly in part 3, and only in parts where the party is trying to convince Cloud to do something other than make a straight beeline for the Northern Crater.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Calling it now.
      Zack finds a way to get to the main timeline.
      Fake Aerith convinces Cloud that the real Zack is Jenova frickery.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no fake Aerith. If Jenova is only in Cloud’s head then Red shouldn’t sense her presence. If she is a physical manifestation of Jenova then the whole party should be able to see her. It’s just her lifestream self.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Red gets fooled by Jenova in the OG, anon.
          Cloud blatantly sees fake Sephiroths when the rest of the party doesn't in Remake. He has Jenova cells.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He never sees Sephiroth out of nothing. Theres always a remnant there in his place. For Aerith to be Jenova she'd need to be a remnant following them around to plane, which they don't acknowledge.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He never sees Sephiroth out of nothing.
              he does

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not true. There's a number of scenes where that blatantly isn't the case in Remake.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes he does, but it's in isolation to him and no one else. It also has a purpose to lure whoever is holding the black materia further. Here it is Cloud's delusion according to you guys, so how can Red sense Cloud's delusion? Why does this Jenova Aerith not do anything that helps Sephiroths plan whatsoever? She literally 'comforts' the party by being around them and says goodbye to Cloud.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >so how can Red sense Cloud's delusion?
              Red was experimented on by Hojo as well. We don't know the extent, but it's never fully explored on what exactly Hojo did to him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So when Cloud Jenova imagined that Zack drowned, did Red sense that too?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would he?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because according to you he can apparently also sense the other times Jenova fills in Cloud's brain with things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, not according to me, I never said that. You made that part up.
                Red was experimented on by Hojo. We dont' know to what extent and Jenova stuff was connected to that experimentation.
                It's separate from Cloud. But in the process of wanting to manipulate Cloud while he's watching, having Red react to a feeling would sell it more (which could be due to Hojo's experimentation)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Aerith" will convince Red to bring the black materia to Cloud in part 3 instead of "Tifa" this time.
                Watch it happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                would be amazing if they used the affinity system for stuff like that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope the affinity system will be only for the folio or gone in part 3. This shit confused so many people with all the changes in different playthroughs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Golden Saucer is done and Aerith is story benched for who knows how long at the beginning of the next game so I don’t see affinities coming back

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it will be scaled back to Remake levels. You'll get a few choices but it will be largely on rails again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                out of curiousity, what was confusing to people? I thought it was incredibly straightforward.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It should be since she and Red are BFFs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Idk, I'll be honest I actually think it is the more creative idea. But I just don't see how the game really supports it with what it presents.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the one thing that I think works against that is Aerith sharing her "future knowledge" with Red in Remake, that might actually play into him feeling her in the ending, making that the real Aerith

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I'm not discounting the possibility of it being Aerith. I just think there's far more evidence of this iteration NOT being Aerith.
                Also, they make it a distinct plot point that the whispers removed that connection at the end of Remake. If you go on the Saucer date with Red XIII, he'll even talk about both Aerith and him temporarily having the ability to see in the future, but that the whispers took that away from them and he can't remember what they took away.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >She literally 'comforts' the party by being around them
              No she doesn't. She just walks around them the entire time, whenever Cloud is looking on. She does nothing to comfort them.
              She doesn't even mention to Cloud that he should probably comfort her best friend, Tifa, who is clearly in distress. She just goes along with Cloud not realizing anything is wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud would probably get into a fight with Tifa if Aerith told him to comfort her. Besides, he doesn't think anything is wrong, so why should he comfort anyone?
                >Tifa, why do you look so depressed? Aerith is only staying here to pray for a while, it's no big deal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because Aerith would understand what is happening, and would explain to Cloud WHY they're distressed.
                The girl who is always worrying about other people in the party and always being empathetic suddenly not caring is weird.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You think Cloud's turbo schizo mind would accept that she's dead even though he can see her right there? Dude was nuts even before; now his brains have turned into scrambled eggs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We're talking about what Aerith would do.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >She literally 'comforts' the party by being around them
              I think you could actually *twist* that notion by making her torture the party with phantom pain

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And looking very sad while doing it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah she sad because she can't put her hands on their fragile necks herself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eh, I don't see Jenova-Aerith trying to get Cloud against Zack in such a scenario. There wouldn't be a good reason for it, it'd throw the Black Materia plan into possible trouble.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm banking on it happening. If there's a "rule of cool" that can happen, using the "Aerith" illusion to make it happen is just sort of a simple path to reach that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whos fake Aerith?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jenova frickery (whether "Jenova" is actually Jenova, or actually Sephiroth exerting control through the alien has been a subject of debate since the original game, though)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So Jenova loves Cloud now and stays behind to give a bittersweet goodbye as he flies away into the sky? Come on now anon.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Of course Jenova doesn't love Cloud.
              What are you talking about?

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you like Reno Elena
    and getting caught in the rain

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloti this
    Clerith that
    THIS is the real end game right here, brothers. No matter the game or timeline.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fine with this
      save the world with your ass, Cloud

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why did Hojo not try to get Jenova pregnant himself?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you impregnate a viral colony? Jenova doesn't actually have a female body.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She does though
        It's just headless

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's was morphed into the shape of a woman when it was killed by the Cetra. It doesn't have an actual, functional female body.

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sephiroth: How would you react if you found out entire past was merely a story fabricated by those who would manipulate you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know it's kind of funny. Both Cloud and Sephiroth both had skewed visions of their own history that caused them to behave in ways that were extremely out of character. Only Cloud had Tifa to put him back right and say

      >no you weren't a soldier nor were you grown in a test tube. You were just my lovable dork from our small hick town that just your best

      Meanwhile Sephiroth had... Jenova and Hojo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He also had Genesis

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Angeal too, until they fell sick and left. Opera Omnia essentially confirms that losing them pushed him over the edge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, Vincent could probably have a conversation with him
        ...on the other hand, maybe he shouldn't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vincent still puts Lucretia in a pedestal even though she's as bad as Hojo. It's amazing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lucrecia was a victim of Hojo

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think so. At worst you can say Hojo gaslighted her but she was a willing participant in Sephiroth's creation even if she regretted it later

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              t. Vincent

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Literally aided and abetted.
              Choose Hojo over Vincent and had sex with him.
              Then went along the experiment with Gast and Hojo to have jenvova cells put in her womb but ends up suffering the effects.
              She choose her suffering.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do you think she could've really been able to say no to Hojo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she could have tried but didn't as she choose Hojo just like

                She also married Hojo, by the way. She didn't just assist him.

                says

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She also married Hojo, by the way. She didn't just assist him.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Vincent still puts Lucretia in a pedestal even though she's as bad as Hojo. It's amazing.

              >no Zack, Cid and Vincent cuck carousel

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cid
                >Cuck
                Cid fricks Shera every night and gets married though.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hope his character development involves seeing Lucretia as what she really was, but I doubt it'll happen

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Barret is the best character in the game

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women can literally never do anything wrong, anon. They’re always inherent victims out of the virtue of having a vegana alone

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Women can literally never do anything wrong
              Scarlet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that village was planning a big terrorism
                and all those weapons are purely for self defense

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. A victim. I hope she gets completely forgiven and redeemed despite being responsible for the deaths of at least an entire town worth of people and even intentionally trying to murder two people directly herself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We're going to get her piloting a Gundam with Heidegger and you're going to like it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So I've been replaying OG and Scarlet and Heidegger are fricking loons. By the time they break out their giant death robot, Meteor is imminent, Rufus just blew up, Hojo is about to blow up Midgar and their main priority is to have Reeve arrested and use their Gundam mech to stop the party rather than stop Hojo from killing them all

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't wait for her to put Tifa in the gas chamber lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So I've been replaying OG and Scarlet and Heidegger are fricking loons. By the time they break out their giant death robot, Meteor is imminent, Rufus just blew up, Hojo is about to blow up Midgar and their main priority is to have Reeve arrested and use their Gundam mech to stop the party rather than stop Hojo from killing them all

                Scarlet won't die but Heidegger and Hojo will.

                Scarlet will get slapped by Yuffie and be humiliated. Heidegger gets blown up and Hojo gets killed but uploads himself to the Midgarwebs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t know. I’d think it’s fair if Barret put a bullet in her head or at least blew off her arm

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Nonono, the woman who experimented on you, pumped you full of alien goo, and then ditched you was actually a great person, I swear.
          Yeah, better not.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well actually Lucretia didn't experiment on Sephiroth after his birth. She just allowed Hojo to experiment on him while in vivo. Sephiroth was taken immediately after his delivery

            >Vincent
            >Lucrecia... You're alive...

            >Lucrecia
            >I wanted to disappear... I couldn't be with anyone... I wanted to die...
            >But the Jenova inside me wouldn't let me die...
            >Lately, I dream a lot of Sephiroth... My dear, dear child.
            >Ever since he was born I never got to hold him, even once...
            >Not even once. You can't call me his mother... That... is my sin...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              She didn't fight for him, though. Gillian fought tooth and nail to keep Angeal and even became a poorgay because she rejected Shinra's suspicious """support""". Lucretia just went away to feel sorry for herself inside a crystal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the worst part is Sephiroth didn't even end up a bad guy until years later and she could've stopped his breakdown but no, woe is me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sephiroth did try his best given the circumstances. Shinra raised him as an experiment and a weapon. His intended purpose was to find Heaven, not to live as a human being. And yet even though he admits its hard for him to connect with people he's still curious what it's like to have a hometown. Or he understands that Cloud probably wants to meet with loved ones before they get going. Or that even though he's special, he still uses it in service to other people. It wasn't until he read Dr. Gast's erroneous notes that he got the wrong idea of what being special actually meant

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know "gacha shit" and all that, but the First Soldier chapters in Ever Crisis makes it abundantly obvious how desperate for connection to other people Sephiroth actually is (before the Nibelheim stuff).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll be straight, I haven't got far in EC, but I consider it more canon than the Remake considering how much I loathe the multiverse shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I really don't like the multiverse stuff, but the game is fun enough that I deal with it.
                If it ends up being true, the Jenova manipulating by using dead loves ones thing would be a cool and well in-line change/addition to the story. Multi-verse is so out of left field, maybe not in FF, but in 7.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it implied Lucretia at least tried to kill herself considering she states the Jenova cells didn’t let her die

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's hardcore

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                typical woman can't even kys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dirge of Cerberus is more or less this, lmao.
            >Lucrecia was actually too good a person to let Vincent be with her because she couldn't save his dad
            >And she was so smart and cool a digital replica of her saves Vincent and fixes his Chaos bullshit so that he can save the world

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wow, fricking gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sephiroth respects and appreciates Aerith and Cloud's dad
        >Hates Hojo without even knowing about his NTR origins
        Fricker never had a chance

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Endgame Ship. Aerith will mend Sephiroth's mind in the lifestream for an eternity. She'll be the Light Angel to his Dark Angel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kingdom hearts

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else think that the Weapons blew up the Mako reactors initially? It’s pretty coincidental that they were at both the Gongaga and Corel reactor remnants.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the timing on those events anyway
      I think both went up in the last 5 years or so?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think Corel was 2 years ago since Marlene is currently 4 and I think I remember Barret saying she was 2 at the time. I’m not sure about Gongaga’s though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gongaga was 3 years ago, IIRC.

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok I believe you

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When is it going to be revealed that Sephiroth and Xehanort are actually one and the same? Third game, ultimania or rebirth's dlc?

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am always baffled by how much of a gigachad Hojo actually is

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they cut Rufus telling Heidegger to stop it with the horse laugh? They better add it in part 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because muh GYA HAH HAH

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like how Cait Sith hates Heidegger and Scarlet so much in FF7

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          imagine being Reeve and just trying to do your autistic city builder shit while working with literal cartoon villains

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >President Shinra
            >How are the preparations going?

            >Heidegger
            >Ha, ha, ha!! Smoothly, very smoothly! I assigned the Turks to this.

            >Reeve
            >President!! Are we really going to do this? Simply destroy a group with only a few members...

            >President Shinra
            >What's the problem, Reeve? You want out?

            >Reeve
            >...No.
            >But, as head of the Urban Development Department, I have been involved in the building and running of Midgar. That's why...

            >Heidegger
            >Reeve, you should flush those personal problems in the morning!

            >Reeve
            >The Mayor's against this anyway...

            >Heidegger
            >Mayor?
            >He just sits in this building all day feeding his face! You still call that a Mayor?
            >Now if you'll excuse me sir!

            >[Heidegger salutes and walks out. Reeve takes a few steps after him, but doesn't follow.]

            >President Shinra
            >You're tired. Why don't you take a couple of days off and go somewhere.

            >[Reeve looks at him, and then walks off.]

            >President Shinra
            >We'll destroy Sector 7 and report that AVALANCHE did it. Then we'll send in the rescue operation care of Shinra, Inc....
            >Heh, heh, heh... this is perfect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I suspect it's because, this time, Heidegger saved Rufus's life at the parade, and got cut himself.
      He showed his loyalty and Rufus is more tolerant this time around.

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can we talk about how beautiful Tifa is?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think her face is kinda weird but Rebirth really made me lust after her body

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gets brutally mogged by Jenova

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She wouldn't even have to be Jenova for me to do literally anything she says

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being Reeves and having to work with:
    >gyahahaha i'm evil and stupid
    >kyahahaha i'm evil and hot
    >muhahahahahahaha SEPHIROOOOOOOTH
    No wonder he made a fursona to cope with this shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If he had sex with Scarlet he'd fix her with motherhood.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reeve is an incel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well he plays with dolls
          also is he still psychic or whatever?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reeve is a furgay who wants to be a literal cat.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I could look out of window in my office and see the destruction of the plate
            >OR jump into my cat avatar and take a stroll outside
            fricking hell

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He can't compete against the president and the overseer of the military. Watching the carnage would probably just break him especially since he needs to keep working for them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      imagine working your way up the corporate ladder being a mostly nice guy, then you get a seat at the table with the big boys and they are all moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reeve is a company man but he's generally the only one looking out for the people they're supposed to be exploiting

      >Reeve
      >We have the damage estimates for Sector 7.
      >Considering those factories we already set up and all the investments, the damage is estimated at approximately 10 Billion gil...
      >The estimated cost to rebuild Sector 7 is...

      >President Shinra
      >We're not rebuilding.

      >Reeve
      >What?

      >President Shinra
      >We're leaving Sector 7 as it is.
      >And restarting the Neo-Midgar plan.

      >Reeve
      >...then the Ancients?

      >President Shinra
      >The Promised Land will soon be ours.
      >I want you to raise the Mako rates 15% in every area.

      >Palmer
      >Rate hike! Rate hike! Tra, la, la! And please include our Space Program in the budget!

      >President Shinra
      >Reeve and Scarlet will divide the extra income from the rate increase.

      >Palmer
      >Oh man!

      >Reeve
      >Sir. If you raise the rates, the people will lose confidence...

      >President Shinra
      >It'll be all right.
      >The ignorant citizens won't lose confidence, they'll trust Shinra, Inc. even more.

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could Squall defeat Cloud 1v1?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unlikely. Cloud is an alien hybrid and Squall is "only" an exceptionally talented and trained human with magic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Squalls feats of chadhood are significantly greater than anything Cloud ever did.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, but Cloud has alien steroids to help him.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that didnt stop him from being KOd with one hit from a baseball bat

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SHINRA BTFO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          whatever

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t forget about them hotdogs!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Squall uses renzokuken/lionheart on Cloud. Cloud has the Counter materia equipped.
      Mechanically, they'd both die. Unless Squall has Hero aura.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hojo talks about "Shinra needs to think bigger" at the end of the game while talking to Rufus
    ...they're not going to bring in the "portal devices" Hojo created from the non-canon Holiday Events from Ever Crisis, are they?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >non-canon
      >Ever Crisis
      like picrel?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >non-canon Holiday Events
        moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why stick to one world's mako if you can have all the mako of the multiverse??
      IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know man Rufus will be focusing on the weapons after they wake up
      He pretty much forgets about the promised land shit after the northern crater

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what if Hojo injected Red with jenova cells?

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so why does the fanbase treat Zack like FF7 Jesus
    do I need to play Crisis Core to get it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, because otherwise he's just a chump that gets shot by some goons
      Crisis Core made him the only normal person in a sea of crazies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the story of FF7 went full shonen anime with Crisis Core and Zack is literally responsible for most of the recognizable moments in the original game like naming Tifa’s bar, meeting e-girl Yuffi, and even crashing through the roof of the church into Aerith’s flower garden before Cloud. He also kills a million Shinra grunts right outside Midgar before he dies in CC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >do I need to play Crisis Core to get it?
      Yes, but I wouldn't because then you have to deal with the shit CC story. I'm not gonna lie, when it works, it works. The ending change from a surprising and unceremonious shot to the back, being put down like a dog to the tragic last stand, remember Reach upsets some people and I get that. I think the original works with OG7 a bit better, even if the new ending does have its own appeal. Many of the other things are much harder to defend though, like Gackt and Angeal being actually moronic, weird fricking pacing, and everything being built around playing during your train commute

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so how would Tifa and Aerith realistically resolve their love triangle with Cloud?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sephiroth already kind of solved that problem for them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even with Sephi getting Aerith out of the way if AC is any indication Tifa would still be pining and Cloud would be off on his lonesome. Maybe it'd be different in another timeline.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cloud and Tifa would be miserable even without Sephiroth in the picture according to Nojima, so a different timeline probably wouldn't help. I bet Aerith would be open to sharing Cloud, though I can't imagine Tifa ever agreeing to it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dance off

      so why does the fanbase treat Zack like FF7 Jesus
      do I need to play Crisis Core to get it?

      Playing that game will leave you with more questions than answers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerith would give up on Cloud if he really wanted Tifa instead because all she cares about is his happiness. I’m not sure about Tifa though. It’s hard to imagine her giving up or finding someone else since she’s so obsessed with Cloud and wants him for her own emotional needs. Would probably end up a spinster in all honesty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >she’s so obsessed with Cloud
        is Tifa really that obsessed with Cloud, though? she clearly has a crush on him but it doesnt seem that extreme

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          her lifestream sequence made it clear that she's REALLY focused on him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >is Tifa really that obsessed with Cloud, though?
          Uh, yes? He literally tries to kill her and then when she thinks she’s dying in the Lifestream all she’s thinking about is him and her past with him instead of worrying about being in the stomach of a magic whale floating around in the toxic magic center of the world and then she immediately forgets about that and tries to kiss him after he talks about having dissociative disorder.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And he's possibly dying, too. Don't forget that he wonders if he has the degradation, but she ignores all that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cloud leaned into the kiss first and is staring at her lips.

            her lifestream sequence made it clear that she's REALLY focused on him

            in the OG the lifestream makes it clear he is really focused on her

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Delusion

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You've activated my autism anon. I'm sorry but the threads almost over so no harm done.

          Tifa, from the start, was motivated by Cloud's mental health and looking for confirmation that Cloud really is her last link to her home

          >Tifa
          >Actually, it's been seven years.
          >You got your wish and joined SOLDIER, quit after the Sephiroth incident, and now you're a mercenary...
          >You told me a lot about what happened after you left Nibelheim...
          >But...
          >...Something's wrong. I felt there was something strange about the things you talked about.
          >All the things you didn't know that you should, And other things you shouldn't know that you did...
          >I wanted to make sure...
          >But then I heard... you were going far away...
          >And I didn't want that...
          >...I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time.
          >And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you, watch you.

          Tifa mentions at the well that the thing she wanted most was for someone to be there for her when she needs it most. Cloud already fulfilled that frequented, he followed her into the mountains when no one else would. He unknowingly did it again at the Nibelheim reactor. That's why even though they weren't close as children, Tifa still had an unexplained connection to him. To the point she's even willing to lie to keep him around. Tifa denied ever knowing a Zack Fair even though she knows for absolute fact that's bullshit.

          But ALSO, Cloud's pretending to be this badass 1st SOLDIER is actually pushing her away. Which is ironic because he attempted to join SOLDIER explicitly to get her attention. Him continuing to pretend might have lost her forever but Tifa ends up becoming more impressed with him after the real him comes back. Even though Cloud considers his real self to be ultimately weaker than the persona. The difference between acting strong and being strong.

          tl;dr yes Tifa is obsessed with Cloud only because she's just as broken as he is

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tifa is a dumb and toxic bimbo who only enables Cloud's mental illness

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean did she deal with Cloud with a soft hand because she didn't want to break him? Or did she do it because Cloud is all she has left and she'll do anything to keep it even if it means lying to him? That's up for debate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                You've activated my autism anon. I'm sorry but the threads almost over so no harm done.

                Tifa, from the start, was motivated by Cloud's mental health and looking for confirmation that Cloud really is her last link to her home

                >Tifa
                >Actually, it's been seven years.
                >You got your wish and joined SOLDIER, quit after the Sephiroth incident, and now you're a mercenary...
                >You told me a lot about what happened after you left Nibelheim...
                >But...
                >...Something's wrong. I felt there was something strange about the things you talked about.
                >All the things you didn't know that you should, And other things you shouldn't know that you did...
                >I wanted to make sure...
                >But then I heard... you were going far away...
                >And I didn't want that...
                >...I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time.
                >And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you, watch you.

                Tifa mentions at the well that the thing she wanted most was for someone to be there for her when she needs it most. Cloud already fulfilled that frequented, he followed her into the mountains when no one else would. He unknowingly did it again at the Nibelheim reactor. That's why even though they weren't close as children, Tifa still had an unexplained connection to him. To the point she's even willing to lie to keep him around. Tifa denied ever knowing a Zack Fair even though she knows for absolute fact that's bullshit.

                But ALSO, Cloud's pretending to be this badass 1st SOLDIER is actually pushing her away. Which is ironic because he attempted to join SOLDIER explicitly to get her attention. Him continuing to pretend might have lost her forever but Tifa ends up becoming more impressed with him after the real him comes back. Even though Cloud considers his real self to be ultimately weaker than the persona. The difference between acting strong and being strong.

                tl;dr yes Tifa is obsessed with Cloud only because she's just as broken as he is

                >But then I heard... you were going far away...
                >And I didn't want that...
                >...I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time.
                >And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you, watch you.
                She was obviously doing it for selfish reasons

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw you realize if Cloud somehow came down with a mental disorder that made him forget his own life, Tifa would manufacture a lie that would keep Cloud emotionally dependant on her forever

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was all for selfish reasons. Even staying with wheelchair Cloud to soothe her guilt while the world literally ends around her. She's really not a heroine because she makes no heroic choices in the story. Contrast with Aerith, when the time came she left Cloud behind to do her duty even though all she wanted to do was stay with him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think that's a mark against her character. That applies to like half the cast. Barrett tells everyone he's with Avalanche to save the world. But that's not true, he's there for selfish revenge because Shinra murdered his family and burned down his town. But "help avenge my dad family" doesn't get teenagers to die for you the way "let's save the world" does. And it's not like fighting Shinra actually wouldn't save the world anyway. Barrett is still a good character even if he's selfish.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s funny how she thought Cloud was lying about being a SOLDIER but then dragged him on a dangerous terrorist mission to not only keep an eye on him but verify that he was actually a SOLDIER in capability when he could have easily died during that mission.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ...Good point, actually. What WAS Tifa's plan if it turned out he had never been a SOLDIER after all?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She didn’t have one apparently since Rebirth shows us she would have died under plate 7 without Cloud around.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but if Cloud really wasn't a SOLDIER (as she suspected), then making him the central part of the team would have gotten everyone killed, Cloud and Avalanche included. She basically gambled their lives on one dudes's delusions simply because he was hot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rufus x Tifa could have potential but the most likely route for Tifa is the cat lady one

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Rufus x Tifa
          what in the god damn

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's hot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cloud wouldn't pick Tifa over Aerith in a scenario where Aerith is still alive

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I completely agree. I’m just saying Aerith loves Cloud more than herself so she prizes his happiness more, which is exactly what her resolution scene in Remake was about with her trying to convince him to not love her. Cloud would have ended up with OG Aeris if she wouldn’t have died because they were always the main lovers of FF7

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd be willing to bet Aerith is bisexual, so the problem is on Tifa's end

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jenova-Aerith convinces Cloud into a threesome
      Tifa is confused why Cloud is making out with air

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think the interior of the Tiny Bronco properly reflected it being overloaded by passengers. I could believe a small plane would have such issues, but then they walk inside and it looks downright cavernous.
    They should be shoved in there shoulder to shoulder by the time Vincent plops down.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but it had to carry Barret, Barret's arm, and Tifa's Tifas

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be me
    >Never played FF7
    >"Oh cool, a remake is being released"
    >MFW in order to understand it you need to play
    >OG FF7
    >Crisis Core
    >Ever Crisis
    >Dirge of Cerberus
    >Watch the movie Advent Children
    I used to mock ff15 for walking on a similar path with movie/anime/dlcs/book but I guess it's the mainstream FF way of doing things...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’ve posted this before

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably someone else

        my impression at the start of this whole thing was that they wanted to distance themselves from the compilation stuff
        but no

        i unironically fell for the "remake" bluff and when I finished it I had to watch youtube essays in order to understand what the hell I was playing...

        You also need to play all the Kingdom Hearts games and the FFX novels. You're not a secondary, right?

        I thought playing from FF1 to FF6 was enough but I guess I was wrong...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I had to watch youtube essays in order to understand what the hell I was playing...
          SE/FF7's devs be like:
          >We also want the FromDrones too. I hope we'll get our own Vaati

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my impression at the start of this whole thing was that they wanted to distance themselves from the compilation stuff
      but no

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Quite the opposite, their goal is aiming to bring the whole compilation together with this remake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The stated intention was to bring in all the Compilation stuff info one work. The remake is the fifth Compilation title according to Kitase himself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You also need to play all the Kingdom Hearts games and the FFX novels. You're not a secondary, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *read the FFX novels

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I refuse to believe Tifa never banged anyone in the slums while Cloud was gone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's a JRPG love interest. She's a virgin unless stated otherwise. Even if it makes absolutely zero sense in the setting.

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gast got to breed prime cetran pussy while cloud jerks off to the ghost of his waifu
    how is this fair? nojima please fix.

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remake menus are so much better. I went back and did chapter to see how it compared to Rebirth and it was the first thing I noticed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      feels like there is a a slight delay when you open the menu in rebirth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There’s also just a weird structure to it. You dont change your party under party, inventory being low down the list. Double sections to do the same thing in

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