FFVII Rebirth Spoilers

What the frick is going on in the ending?
Felt like I was playing Kingdom Hearts except even more moronic

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not my problem to by your mentor in critical thinking
    Grow up
    Go get a degree in math or science or like engineering or accounting
    And then play this game with an anylstical puzzle solving based mind
    AND THEN
    You won't need to ask this moronic ass question
    Tifa won, btw

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only time I thought about KH while playing this was when I realized the combat is light-years ahead of any KH game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So when Aerith pushed Cloud into the floor in the church you didn't immediately think of the KH1 intro?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        THERE'S A NEW LAAANNNDDD
        ANGELS IN FLIGHT
        WPWIREOPAHGOPWHSHITNA
        MY SANCTUARY
        MY SANCTUARYYYAA
        WHERE FEARS AND LIES
        MELT AWAYYY HAYYYYYAAAAYYAAA

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HOLD ME
          WHATEVER LIES BEYOND THIS MORNING
          IS A LITTLE LATER ON

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PLEEEEEEEAASEE
            OHH BAAAABYY
            DONT GO
            SIMPLE AND CLEAN
            IS THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So when you created a Portal in Portal you didn't immediately think of the KH1 Intro?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post webm/link so I can tell. I don't have a ps5

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't remember those harry potter ghosts circling sora as he falls, but yes it is the same thing just shittier

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cute!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sorry Tifa, only Cloud is allowed in the Cetra ethnostate.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is going on in the ending?
    does it matter? ff7r is already ruined because square decided to prioritise meta discussion about the game = viral marketing over just telling a simple but impactful narrative like the original. by the time you finish the 1 hour boss rush after aerith gets killed you've forgotten she's even dead because the game just wants you to go "broooo wtf is happening!?"
    square enix is fricking pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its pretty good right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whats the point of releasing the exact story when thats already been released

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when did I say that they needed to tell the exact same story? all I'm saying is that they should've played to the strengths of why the original is beloved to begin with, which certainly isn't a convoluted multiverse time travel story.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're an idiot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cant answer the question
          many such cases

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you sold it as a remake? If you want to do a new story make a sequel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone knew this was wasn't a 1 for 1 remake before Remake even came out. Learn2read English well enough to read reviews and you wouldn't have this problem, Pablo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does it really fricking matter? I thought you spergs only gave a shit about gameplay? It’s not even like the original story is some sacred text to begin with

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >original story is some sacred text
            but it is

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Cloudferoth
              Wtf

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black personoud

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Because you sold it as a remake?
          What rule says a remake has to be 1:1?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          homie its been SIX years, get over it already
          Just install mods, it's a fricking jrpg

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is a REMAKE, not a remake. Sephiroth is remaking the timeline. So it’s his Final Fantasy VII REMAKE.

      • 3 weeks ago
        sage

        whats the point of reusing the 7 property instead of telling a new story? could it be this is a sloppy, botched cash grab?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Incorporate the expanded universe of the game for a proper final conclusion of all of it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the original 7 had a perfect ending. this will not, unless you think kingdom hearts 3 is top shelf kino

            >whats the point of reusing the 7 property
            fans literally begged for it for 15 years

            fans wanted a proper remake, not this, as you can see from picrel

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Muh sales again
              Fans are just too old and zoomers don't care about these games

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So why all the remakes to stoke nostalgia. Do boomer matter or not?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have autism? Most fans are almost 40 years old. Even if you made a perfect 1:1 remake it wouldn't sell that much because market and people changed
                This is like when battle royale harem used to be big and were replaced by isekai
                Stop having autism

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure how any of what you wrote was a response to my point but sure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I already conceded that you were a moron. Not sure what that's worth but glad you like it. Good day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe 15 years ago when fans would be teens or in their 20s

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                og ff7 was the first game i ever played to completion and i own a PS5 and didnt pick this up after the botch job of REmake. 30 year olds are one of the boggest customer bases of vidya right now. you are coping.

                The Remake trilogy is doing a better job at handling some characters like Barret or Cait. Also giving Yuffie and Vincent an actual purpose.

                even if that were true, which is highly subjective, some characters have been flanderized or outright neutered (cid) while the overall plot is a mess. a couple characters MAYBE being handled more gracefully does not offset the bullshit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Characters flanderized
                Imagine pretending to play a game
                >But my case!
                YOUR case. Most zoomers dont care about these games

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >outright neutered (cid)
                Cid hasn't done anything yet. His actual storyline is tied directly to Rocket Town and we haven't been there yet. We don't know anything about how he'll be handled for sure until the next game where he gets some relevance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't really agree, Cid has more sense getting a spotlight in the third act like Vincent, Cait or Tifa.
                In terms of how the game itself is and how it handles the characters it's vastly better in many ways than the OG. And yes it has all to do with being a current day game. You can't really express what Barret feels watching his dead wife without an hand to hold her or Tifa watching Cloud almost murder her or Yuffie watching her dead friend used to mock her being a pussy.
                There are a lot of scenes in this trilogy that are done so well I don't really find much to complain over. They nailed the party dynamic too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like that the party has more dynamics that don't include Cloud
                >Tifa and Aerith a best friends
                >Barret sees Yuffie as an annoying child he has to look after
                >Cid doing all he does for the party because he knew Aerith's mom (as opposed to him having nothing else to do so he just tags along)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Remake trilogy is doing a better job at handling some characters like Barret or Cait. Also giving Yuffie and Vincent an actual purpose.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Looks to me the problem is the PS5. If XVI had 700k and Rebirth 260k you would have a point

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whats the point of reusing the 7 property
          fans literally begged for it for 15 years

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you are why we get shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FF7
      >impactful narrative

      Pick one

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon, I don't know how to break this to you, and I don't think ff7 even had a particularly good story, but sephiroth killing aerith and cloud carrying her body to the water was a video game defining moment.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Aerith died
    >There are multiple timelines because time jannies
    >There are now two sets of time jannies
    >Advent Children cancer is coming
    Its shit. No wonder its at a mere 7k sales this week

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Advent Children and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Time to die from Genesis AIDS

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I finished Remake I was slightly intrigued by where things could go, after Rebirth I just stopped caring.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To me its the whole
      >We see the feedback
      I fricking HATE the damage twitter has done, now everything is looking a reaction from twitter, which is why stories are so bipolar

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah they didn't take things to a different enough place. There's some new padding in the game but things essentially end up like in the original, plus extra side story with Zack that didn't really matter much.
      The entire thing feels sanitized and safe, with no real creative thought behind it.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when will square enix finally stop releasing eurojank tier AA games dressed up as AAA games? it's honestly pathetic how fricking janky and rigid and weird pretty much anything that isn't combat is in this game. like, every time you do ANYTHING in the overworld in this game, the animations for what you're doing have to 100% finish before you can do anything else. every single other game of good quality has some kind of animation morphing going on where you can transition from one thing to the next. for example, you have to first come to a complete fricking stop on the chocobo before sniffing and digging, and you also cannot start running again until the chocobo has completely lifted its head after doing these actions and is back in "neutral" position, essentially a T pose which is the state from which anything has to happen or else the game would probably break the frick apart. it's the same with climbing ledges (has zero fricking momentum because cloud has to reset to zero before he can jump to the next one), opening chests, getting into water to start swimming etc. the only reason this doesn't happen with picking up gathering shit is because it doesn't have an animation to begin with. and that's not even talking about how cloud and the party interact with the terrain which is just very puzzling and janky feeling contextual actions

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not reading all of that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I stopped reading after "eurojank." If you think Rebirth is eurojank then you have never experienced eurojank and should not be posting. Begone moronic zoomer.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So.... how are they gonna handle the real plot twist of FF7? Especially since they already kind of spoiled the shit out of it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The real plot twist will likely be a new one in this remake. They wanted people to play CC remaster and watch AC during all this, so I don’t see the Cloud/Zack be the big thing anymore

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah having Zack be so prominent does kind of frick with it. And having Tifa outright tell Aerith (and by extension the player) that Cloud's flashback isn't accurate gives it all away

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    will cloud break tifas heart again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He'll break her pelvis

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick is aerith jesse 2 ian rebirth now
    Hated that clinging b***h

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does the ff7 satsuki mod include the retranslation or is the steam version translation fixed?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I REFUSE to take my meds.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what theory is going to be btfo the hardest when the Ultimania releases?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Tifa kiss will just be Cloud imitating Alphried from the play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't get about the whole Ultimania stuff is that even in the OG game and throughout Remake and Rebirth they continually show, and tell, that Jenova is the main bad guy but in "official media text" (Ultimania) they make no mention of it what-so-ever.
      It's almost as if they had an intelligent, well written villain that is a master of manipulation but the writing was too smart for people to catch on so they were like "Huh? Oh heh-heh yeah Sephiroth is TOTALLY the main villain...even though it's perfectly fricking clear Jenova is using his likeness to push its own agenda and no where did we put in, mention, or suggest Sephiroth's 'will' took control of an immortal beast who has been devouring planets since the dawn of time."

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even in the OG game and throughout Remake and Rebirth they continually show, and tell, that Jenova is the main bad guy
        I am so fricking sick and tired of this debate and it's been nearly 30 goddamn years.
        For all intents and purposes, they are the same. Jenova and Sephiroth have become one entity that shares the same goal. They want to crack open the planet to suck up that sweet sweet life stream to ascend to godhood, and then use the propulsion of the planet exploding to launch them towards another planet, where they'll do it all over again.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yet that is fundamentally not true as Sephiroth is half human, and that half human side would have gone into the lifestream.
          There is no evidence, at all, that Sephiroth is alive in any context.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sephiroth is utterly unique in that he is the only one (as far as we've been told across all compilation material) that was injected with J-cells while still a fetus in his mothers womb.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh I absolutely agree but again, he's still half-human. He comes FROM the planet so he rejoins with the planet while all the J-cells are expelled.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The planet doesn't even want Lucretia

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He comes FROM the planet so he rejoins with the planet while all the J-cells are expelled.
                As per the Black/White novellas his consciousness is able to persist within the lifestream well after he was killed at the end of OG7. That said they also specifically mention that he will EVENTUALLY get to the point where he's fully reabsorbed, it is just taking way longer due to the J-cells in him, and he is also refusing to let it happen by holding on to his hatred of Cloud and Clouds hatred towards him, because for whatever ridiculous reason that basically ties Sephiroth to reality and keeps him 'alive'.

                It seems like, especially with how much the Gi chapter hammers it home, that it's been retconned that because Sephiroth has J-Cells in him since before he was born he's not technically from the planet. But that's just speculation, we don't know one way or the other. It would explain a lot of what is happening though, if the post-advent children sephiroth flat out realizes he's in a purgatory state forever like the Gi are and works his way backwards to fix it. But until part 3 we won't know, and whos to say we'll even know then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >As per the Black/White novellas his consciousness is able to persist within the lifestream well after he was killed at the end of OG7
                if you actually read it aerith says he is desperately trying to hold on to his consciousness (and failing) and is only able to do it by focusing on Cloud's hatred of him, which allows him to remember who he is (this is why he's always fricking with cloud)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's so obvious in the original game that Sephiroth's will is completely subsumed by Jenova the moment he discovers who she is
          it's almost as if she is speaking to him in his mind from the moment he arrives in the Nibelheim reactor
          his entire personhood disappears and is replaced by Jenova's will

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No prease understandu. Sephiroth's will was just too strong to be overcome. He's totally cool and badass. His goals just happen to completely align with Jenova's.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believe the timeline shenanigans are actually real because even after almost 30 years of all the different iterations of Cloud's character, it's always been him hunting Sephiroth down for killing Aerith/trying to find the Promised Land where he'd meet her again.

    Cloud clearly has never gotten over Aerith's death despite the events that occurred in AC given how he fell into depression yet again in DOC.

    Seeing as it's a Final Fantasy game, it's highly possible that Cloud and Aerith will finally have their fairy tale ending by part 3.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I believe the timeline shenanigans are actually real
      According to Sephiroth and the Cosmo npc they are, so probably

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can only hope. They brought back all the original devs to work on this and Kitase even said after spending all his life with these characters he wants a happy ending for them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >after spending all his life with these characters he wants a happy ending for them
        This is such a dumb mindset to have and perpetuates the lamest lifecycle a story possibly can have.
        >Write a good story
        >Story becomes popular
        >Milk a story to hell and back till it becomes bonedry
        >Now feel OBLIGED to write a happy ending where everyone gets what they want just because they story has gone on for years and people just want things to END
        They did it with KH and it sucked there too. Completely destroys any integrity in the story. Jst pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then what would happen to Tifa?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She has to move into my house.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She can have Rufus.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She has to find her own resolve instead of clinging to the idea that the real Cloud can become the Zack type like she's always wished. If anything, Tifa and Zack are the ones that are meant for each other.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Zack is for Aerith. Tifa always loved Cloud for the dork he is who wants to do whatever it takes to be there for her.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Zack is for Aerith
            Rebirth shut that door and locked it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Zerith is dead for good lad, there’s no coming back from what Rebirth did to it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bruh even Aerith's own eng VA is clearly for Clerith despite the NDAs.

            Zack's only existence is to show how much of a shitty boyfriend he was to Aerith to further develop the Cloud/Aerith dynamic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Zerith is dead for good lad, there’s no coming back from what Rebirth did to it

              nothing about zerith is dead. aerith still has feelings for zack too. you incels need to relax

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They actually made Zack a cuck, put Cissnei into Gongaga, and finally had Marlene say to him that Aerith's over him now, that she's in love with Cloud so please go save him so he can save Aerith.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's not a cuck, real Zack is in the lifestream with jolly Aerith. Remake Zack is probably there so that he can stop Seph since his plan is going forward without issue.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >real Zack is in the lifestream with jolly Aerith
                then why did they decide green light and publish "Maiden who travels the planet" where Zack got rejected even in death? Please be serious here, SE will never let the LTD end cause it makes them the most money.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're never going to make it so Cloud and Aerith can be together, that's the whole point of Advent Children and them saying we'll get there with this trilogy.
                Aerith rests in the afterlife with Zack, both are dead but both are also at peace with each other. Cloud moves on with Tifa.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After Rebirth proved that Aerith is in love with Cloud and made Zack to Clerith supporter №1, you still have hopes for your headcanon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AC ia not the endgame, they just said the story will link to it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And the JP actress for Aerith is married to the JP actor for Zack, who runs the agency that the JP actor for Cloud got fired from after it came out he was having like four affairs at once.
              Don't pay so much attention to actors, anon. They're re paid to play a character and market a product.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he was having like four affairs at once.

                1. Why do women only go for chad?
                2. Why do people care if he is cheating on his wife? is it sour grapes?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because he was married to three of them and nobody knew he was married at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is that bad?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Made for Rufus. Rufus x Tifa is the hottest ship

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last scene I'm looking forward to being remade

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now that I think about it, it’s kinda weird Shinra taxis Sephiroth around in a short bus everywhere when he was their most valuable military asset. You think they would have given him his own helicopter to fly him around on.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the same Shinra that wanted to commandeer the Tiny Bronco when they already had the Highwind and a fleet of Gelnikas. Not a single thing they do makes sense. The only right idea they ever have is using the Sister Ray on Sapphire WEAPON and the barrier on the Northern Crater.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >when they already had the Highwind

          Not operational yet. You commendeer it right after it's operational and hasn't been deployed yet. Play the game you doofus.

          > and a fleet of Gelnikas.

          Palmer wanted to commendeer the Tiny Bronco right then and there to get where they wanted to go rather than wait lord knows how long.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why don't they have a proper railway network? FF8 had a fully functioning one for instance

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People who hate the Reborn ending really are just too stupid to get it

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >make remake
    >trick people into thinking you wont kill aerith
    >make rebirth in 4 years
    >kill aerith
    absolutely devilish

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >noooooo it needs to be a happy ending!
    so childish

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anything not leading into depressed mail man movie is an upgrade

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cloud dealing with his grief could have been interesting but the execution was just poor
        >Us or a memory?
        >Stop this dilly dilly shally shally

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not part of the games, does not matter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You already had a sad ending, you stupid frick. Not everything needs to be derivative of the original work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything has to be grimdark and bittersweet!
      Frick you.

      Anything not leading into depressed mail man movie is an upgrade

      Also this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's been 30 years anon.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single time I see someone complaining on youtube or stream about this game being
    >too long
    >too confusing
    >too boring
    >too hard
    It's a zoomer with brown skin

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just wanna know what people think is happening with the ending...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They think it's Fight Club, but they've never actually watched Fight Club and they only watched the last 15 minutes of Rebirth on Youtube.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not gonna lie, something pretty lewd about the way he thrusts his fingers between hers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd like to think that she gave Cloud a handie after the interlocked fingers "until the ride's over" but they couldn't show it cause of the T rating.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It seems to be either 1) Cloud is hallucinating Aerith being alive whether because of Jenova or otherwise or 2) he did save her in an alternate universe and he’s somehow seeing both universes at once, or a combination of the two.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will not count the dogs
    I am not that autistic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bro can’t count to 5

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifa should find a big black man to take care of her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but with cloud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but with cloud

      This but with me

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still believe besides part 3 there are 2 more projects
    >Dirge of cerberus remake alas cc
    >Part 4 Advent Children

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both are just going to be expansions.
      Cerberus story will be reimagined as an expansion to rebirth and advent reimagined as an expansion to part 3

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marlene said that Aerith likes Cloud because Zack wasn't there.
    Does this mean Aerith would like Zack if he were there?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She means Zack disappeared for five years so Aerith moved on. That line isn’t in the Japanese version anyway

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you're saying it's Zack's fault that he died

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marlene says in response to Zack saying "I did not see that coming" that "you did not see it because you were not there" meaning that if Zack had been there he would have seen/noticed it.

      Cloti is still going to win

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course. Zack charms anyone he comes into contact with

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that if you don’t have the Buster Sword equipped during story missions, then you’re playing the game wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I only ever used other swords to get their abilities. Once they were mastered I went right back to the Buster Sword
      >Doing that moment without the Buster Sword
      >Fighting Gilgamesh without the Buster Sword

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so does zack somehow jump from one timeline to another? what the frick is going on with this story?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are 4 important timeline for FF7
    1. OG timeline. This is the original ff7 game through advent children
    2. Remake timeline A. This is the timeline of the remake trilogy you're playing in.
    3. Zach timeline. This is the timeline where a living Zach was teleported to after the end of the first remake.
    4. Remake timeline B. This is the new timeline created when a version of cloud saves Aerith. In this timeline she is alive

    That said I think timeline B won't end up being important, but rather that Aerith will move to the Zach timeline next game, which we'll explore when Cloud goes into his wheelchair coma.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If he is even still in this timeline, Zack's time line had a Terrier dog with 4 stars and we have a version of unconscious Cloud and Aerith in her hous, why should the other Aerith come there?
      >but they woke up in the dream date
      No, that was a timeline with a dog with 3 stars. We don't know what happened with the timeline with the Terrier dog.
      Some people think Zack is in the main world now. This would be more interesting if he start searching for Cloud there.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See it completely lost me when they introduced like four different timelines back to back. Which Zack even showed up to help Cloud anyway?
        Was it the one that got time janny'd by Sephiroth in that Shiba-Stamp timeline?
        What happened to the one in the reactor?
        Or the one that was crazy motorcycle chasing?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Was it the one that got time janny'd by Sephiroth in that Shiba-Stamp timeline?
          Yes, that one, Aerith's flowers lead him in the right direction to Cloud eventually. But where he ends back up seems to have divided opinion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Some people think Zack is in the main world now.
        I think he is because where he fought Sephiroth Rebirth was his own world church, then he got teleported by lifestream Aerith somewhere else.
        It makes more sense to put Zack in the remake timeline since they bothered to give him an entire playable kit and everything to I do see him having a possible DLC or side story during the next game, plus Cissnei randomly being in Gongaga which served no real purpose so far.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >plus Cissnei randomly being in Gongaga which served no real purpose so far
          If nothing else it tells us what she did after CC. She quit the Turks then moved to Gongaga to protect it because she felt guilty about Zack's death (while secretly coping that he's alive and will come home)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but I'd consider that a "change" for the purpose of something. They could've also put her in the team instead of literally who Elena.
            Also Genesis absence is probably the biggest hint Zack is in the remake timeline since that's a plotline he would explore.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Elena is annoying as frick but she was in the og team. She existed before Cissnei did.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >instead of literally who Elena

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3. Zach timeline. This is the timeline where a living Zach was teleported to after the end of the first remake.
      what I haven't heard anyone talking about is the fact Zack was transported to this timeline (where Aerith, Tifa, Red, Barret are injured at the express way and captured by Shinra) WITH the comatose Cloud from his timeline, and the Shinra troopers still say they are looking for an "Ex-Soldier armed with a buster sword", which means the Cloud we know already existed in that timeline as well, so there are actually TWO Clouds in his timeline now

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reddit fantasy 7: redditbirth

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as the lifestream part with Tifa and Cloud is mostly intact i can "live" with the story. Don't force Zack in that part for god sake.

    Also mutltiverse stories can suck a fat one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've already blown most of it. Cloud now remembers Nibelheim differently because he's inserted Zack into the role of the nameless grunt.
      And we already know that Cloud's recollection of events is faulty. Plus at this point they expect you to have played CC so every last semblance of the twist is gone

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so how will they make the twist work in part 3 when they fix the schizo?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's why i think they're gonna force Zack in there. Always felt that moment in the original was important for the character development of Cloud and Tifa, and it's gonna fall flat with Zack being alive.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy a game Nomura has worked on
    >Get mad because its similar to KH
    Wtf is wrong with you people?
    They didn't even try to deceive you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not mad that it's moronic. I'm all for Normura's Wild Ride, I just want to know what the frick is going on

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you actually played Kingdom Hearts or are you just echoing the words of mouth breathing morons? I have played every single Kingdom Hearts game and the end of this game and the end of Remake have absolutely nothing to do with anything Kingdom Hearts, the only similarity in the entire series so far is that the secondlast final boss in Remake looks like a Darkside enemy from Kingdom Hearts.

    There is no other similarities at all, Kingdom Hearts has nothing to do with multiple timelines, destiny or anything like that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pic related made me think of the KH1 opening

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing squeenix shit in 20 fricking 24

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Strong
    >Handsome
    >Martial artist
    >High paying job
    >Can handle morons like Elena
    >Not a mophead
    Rude is the best man for Tifa, objectively speaking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Jobbed to Barret
      No, probably the most unimpressive Turk in this game. Literally got owned by everyone except Dyo.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    actually Kingdom Hearts makes sense, unlike Toriyama's piece of shit multiverse scam

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a SOLDIER gf.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're all crazy, anon.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aeris is cutey

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Calm down, Cloud

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what would a relationship between them actually be like?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Supposedly has a scar
      >No scar is shown when she's wearing a bikini
      ?????????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Between her massive Tifa's

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But we saw on screen where her wound was.it was well below her breasts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We alreadey know form AC. Cloud was depressed and distant and she didn't know how to talk to him without making the relationship worse.
      The writer said Cloud and Tifa will never have a romantic relationship that works. The personalities don't fit. They can work the best as friends

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didnt he say Cloud was afraid of being happy?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't rememeber this. You can't control happines or sadness it's just there. In dirge of cerberus Cloud was still single, Tifa's relation to him was writen as "childhood friend" again. People talked about the books where Tifa and Cloud's interactions are almost always frustrating.
          The problem is they did not have alternatives for a new partner to move on. The people who Ship them, project themsleves in to them without undrstanding the characters.

          In most fan Art or fanfics you will see, they change their personalites how they would like them to be to work.

          - yea. look at this, Tifa acts like Tifa would act , but Cloud would act like this smooth romantic, only if you change his personality.

          - or this, here Cloud acts like Cloud, but Tifa acts like Aerith or Jessie

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Cloud would act like this smooth romantic, only if you change his personality.

            it is his personality, though. all of his lines with tifa are smooth

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. For some reason there are a few moments around Tifa where he turns into an absolute chad.

              "Beautiful" in the first game where he is looking at her past the cosmo canyon drink.

              Or when he tells Tifa in the date that she is absolutely not getting ahead of herself, then he kisses her.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                or he tries to kiss her in Gongaga, or tells her the beach is hot, or when he asks her if she is allright a million times.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Interesting thing, that in Remake it was pointed out when he gave The flower to Tifa that he did something Zack would do. And in Rebirth i saw other things like this that were like out of character.

              Anyway, we talked about what is Cloud's personality in OG, AC, CC, DoC and in the books. Real Cloud doesn't act like a smoooth romantic..

              We will see in Part 3, after the lifestreem chapter how Cloud will act. If they change Cloud personality like this, a relationship with Tifa can work in my opinion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how is cloud trying to act cool not the real him? havent you ever acted slightly out of character for a girl?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The flower scene was literally explained by Ultimania as Cloud imitating Zack, as was the scene where he hugs Tifa back when she's crying into his chest (he's imitating Barret). As for the rest, we'll have to wait and see.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how is him imitating someone else "bad"? everyone learns and imitates behavior they see and remake cloud has unironic non-meme autism

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how is him imitating someone else "bad"?
                I mean, for Cloud? Not doing that anymore is his whole arc

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                which is why he failed to ascend to chadhood

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Real chads say "Let's mosey"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Real chads say "Let's mosey"

                Rally hoping they don't screw up Cloud's actual personality. He's a far cry from emo Cloud, and is actually a gentle dork.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Never trust Aerithgays, look at what they were hiding

                "In Advent Children
                The happier he is now,
                The more Cloud is tormented by painful “memories” of the past.

                The more he realizes how happy he is living with Tifa and the children, the more the fear of losing that and regrets toward the past trouble Cloud…

                Nomura in Distance: “The happier Cloud is, the more lonely he becomes."

                -------------
                Yeah, Cloud had PTSD, but he ends up getting over it when he closes Aerith and Zack story and keeps going with his life.

                Another thing is that if they revisit Advent Children they may want to use a more dorky Cloud over Emo Cloud, 2000s for some reason were some years were everyone wanted to wear black clothes and be sad to prove it's more mature kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We dont talk about acting cool, you can look cool with not talking. But to be flirtatious is the most out of character for him. I don't know it is intended to be out of character in Rebirth like it was in Remake (see here

                The flower scene was literally explained by Ultimania as Cloud imitating Zack, as was the scene where he hugs Tifa back when she's crying into his chest (he's imitating Barret). As for the rest, we'll have to wait and see.

                ) or they made a change for better chemistry int his scenes between Cloud and Tifa

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud always tried to be smooth and chadlike to win Tifa. It took Hojos science to finally give him the ability to do so, though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. The story gets kickstarted because Cloud wanted to impress Tifa.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clerithgays are trying to push the angle that Cloud trying to be cool is now fake, instead of the rest

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are an ESL. I can tell by the way you type

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Someone posts cute fanart
            >Clerithshit starts sperging how its non canon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "In Advent Children
          The happier he is now,
          The more Cloud is tormented by painful “memories” of the past.

          The more he realizes how happy he is living with Tifa and the children, the more the fear of losing that and regrets toward the past trouble Cloud…

          Nomura in Distance: “The happier Cloud is, the more lonely he becomes."

          -------------
          Yeah, Cloud had PTSD, but he ends up getting over it when he closes Aerith and Zack story and keeps going with his life.

          Another thing is that if they revisit Advent Children they may want to use a more dorky Cloud over Emo Cloud, 2000s for some reason were some years were everyone wanted to wear black clothes and be sad to prove it's more mature kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nomura in Distance: “The happier Cloud is, the more lonely he becomes."
            Deep, Nomura-san

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is why I never trusted Aerithschizos (nor tifaschizos mind you) always trying to downplay the other part, pretending Cloud is some butthole with no feelings

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cloud has to be an butthole, Aerith has to be a b***h, Tifa has to be a c**t. Otherwise Clerith doesn't work so that's what they argue for.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based.
            Aerithshits only watched the first half of the movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sex, comfy, love.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just like your pic shows she is good for sex only

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We alreadey know form AC. Cloud was depressed and distant and she didn't know how to talk to him without making the relationship worse.
        The writer said Cloud and Tifa will never have a romantic relationship that works. The personalities don't fit. They can work the best as friends

        >Femcels unable to accept women with big boobas can be better wives than them
        Lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t.porn addict who thinks giant

          Because Tifa is Cloud's canon love interest. The points were never about romance because the entire party had them. It's a social mechanic.
          If Aerith was ever meant to be a love interest, she would've atleast had a kiss because Tifa has a kiss and a sex scene.

          breasts=personality. Cloud using her as a pump and dump is canon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nooo she has big boobs I have to think she has no personality!
            Typical flat femcel coping

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Compared to the other girls in the party, Tifa is a bit of a wet blanket. She's just kind of the mature, responsible one. She's a lot less fun than Aerith or Yuffie.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the aspect that made me feel the remake games really did Tifa dirty.
                Aeirth has her cute flirty personality, manic pixie dream girl while Yuffie is the childish, hebe mesugaki with unbuttoned shorts.
                For Tifa they gave her a breast reduction, made her outfit more generic, and gave her no personality.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tifa has always had less personality than anyone in the main cast. She's just a fundamentally boring, satellite character who doesn't carry the story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just because a character isn't 'genki' doesn't mean they have to lack personality.
                I don't think anyone would describe lulu as bland even though she:
                >Is a side character with zero development
                >Doesn't have a loud personality and is of the mature archetype
                >Plays no part in the main plot
                >Barely speaks

                Tifa looks miserable in every scene of the remakes, even when she is smiling. I really think AC did a ton of damage to the character the same way it did to cloud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just because a character isn't 'genki' doesn't mean they have to lack personality.
                Indeed, hence why I said "less personality than anyone in the main cast". The problem isn't that she isn't "genki", but that she doesn't have any strong goal, conviction, or voice of her own. She really likes a guy she had spoken to once before the game, joins some terrorists but doesn't truly believe in their goals and doesn't like their methods (but doesn't do anything about it), and then just kinda follows along while other characters act. In AC she mopes around and keeps trying to convince herself that she has a family while her deadbeat not-bf won't even pick her calls, and as of DoC nothing much has really changed except that there's a whole bunch of people living with her now and Cloud does pick her calls.

                It's not a compelling character arc and she's not entertaining to watch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah so she was did dirty. We know how the PS 1 games were like, it was difficult for those chibis to emote much.
                In the transition to current gen, they played up the other casts members personalities but not Tifa's. Having no motivation or conviction doesn't mean the character has to be boring.
                Again, I point to lulu.
                Tifa didn't have to be a mopey wet blanket, they wrote her into this character.
                Now if you want to say she has been horribly depicted since AC I would agree with you and said as much, I just thought it doesn't have to be this way. Look at Dissidia Tifa and tell me you don't think that fits more like what you imagine Tifa to be like when you played the OG.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just because a character isn't 'genki' doesn't mean they have to lack personality.
                Indeed, hence why I said "less personality than anyone in the main cast". The problem isn't that she isn't "genki", but that she doesn't have any strong goal, conviction, or voice of her own. She really likes a guy she had spoken to once before the game, joins some terrorists but doesn't truly believe in their goals and doesn't like their methods (but doesn't do anything about it), and then just kinda follows along while other characters act. In AC she mopes around and keeps trying to convince herself that she has a family while her deadbeat not-bf won't even pick her calls, and as of DoC nothing much has really changed except that there's a whole bunch of people living with her now and Cloud does pick her calls.

                It's not a compelling character arc and she's not entertaining to watch.

                I greatly enjoy watching Tifa's ptsd ridden character development, knowing how it will, hopefully, play out, while I find Aerith annoying and pushy at best. Guess it really is a matter of opinion.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Porn addict
            Kek do Aerithgays really? Girls with big breasts exist in real life

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This
              My fave is Yuffie but I really like Tifa too. Kinda old and young sister type

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I actially think Yuffie is a better genki girl than Aerisu
                Aerisu is too old to act like that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Same, actually seeing aerith pushing tifa and cloud then flirt with cloud in front of tifa...kinda b***hy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because Yuffie is real japanese genki and Aerith a western woman trying to act kawaii

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Abusive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is the context here?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >stop thinking about your dead love or I am throwing a fit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tifa would suffocate Cloud with her boobs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He can't give her what she wants, an emotionally available knight in shining armour. Even without Aerith in the picture they just don't work. Cloud being rude and awkward just enables the people pleaser in her in a bad way and her lack of backbone when it comes to him means she bottles things up and avoids conflict u
      until she snaps (i was happy to see you again but I guess I was wrong to be, us or a memory) which just makes him pull away and frick off.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thing is, real Cloud is not rude and awkward. Its why they get along so well after the lifestream scene in the og.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are you talking about, he has been rude and awkward since childhood.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do they really have a lot of work to do for a part 3? The open world is already pretty much tackled on, they already have models for all the characters and zones etc.
    It doesn't feel like a part 3 should take more than 2 years to make.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gameplay-wise they need to make playstyles for Cid and Vincent, and probably flesh out Zack more if they want him to be main party material.
      The open world won't change much mechanically but they will need to make a few more areas.
      I'm hopeful that it won't take long but I don't have my hopes up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they said they have to change the explorable world because it has to be balanced around having the highwind

      its the combat system and character animations that are pretty much done and ready for part 3, not the overworld

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved the way the final chapter just unraveled into pure formalist stylistic excess. I have no idea what happened. Something about Aerith's spirit escaping into a pocket dimension and Sephiroth trying to merge it into the real world to put Jenova back together? I don't know and I don't care, it was some of the wildest shit I've ever seen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Something about Aerith's spirit escaping into a pocket dimension
      No, it looked like only Cloud remembered what happened it this world he woke up, the Aerith that gave him the white materia and pushed him back is not the same as the Aerith who recived the white materia from him in the main world.

      The fact that he took a physical object from that world, to me disproves the theory that this are not phisical worlds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's very clearly two different white materia in the main world. The one that Aerith prime took from Cloud and prayed with, and the empty one that Cloud now has. I think that's pretty clear evidence that the other universes are real

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what are the zones gonna be for part 3?
    >Icicle Inn area
    >Rocket Town area
    >Mideel area
    >Wutai area (maybe two areas for the continent to flesh it out?)
    >Northern Crater area?
    >Underwater area?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're going to add some new zone for the Dirge of Cerberus cast considering how hard they're baiting around with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I reckon Dirge cast will show up in the Return to Midgar segment. Hoping for a duel Weiss and Nero boss fight and maybe even Sonon being controlled by Nero fight with Yuffie. Lots of potential there

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only Heidegger and Scarlet know about Deepground so yeah expect some filler with Nero and Weiss after they take over Shinra

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know it's not the sort of thing they'd ever actually do, but I feel like ideally they'd reduce the open world for the final game drastically and made it a bit more linear like the first game. Its implementation was... not very good. The actual sidequests and some of the protorelic stuff was alright but if I never have to see a life spring, summon shrines or sneak up to a fricking chocobo again, it'll be too soon.

      There a massive gulf between how elaborately presented and directed the main quest is and how cheap most of the side content feels.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think all the ones we already have but added:
      >Northern region with Icicle inn, the glacier and north crater
      >Wutai region
      >Nibel region gets expanded with Rocket Town just beyond the mountains
      >Junon region gets the underwater reactor added + access to Fort Condor
      >Underwater and sky section added to the ocean "region", functioning similar to how the Tiny Bronco does now
      Midgar also needs to be accessible but since they parachute in I don't think it's going to be its region zone to explore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hmm I wonder if they'll still go ahead and have Yuffie steal all of the party's materia in Wutai. It feels like she's too "in" with the party for them to pull that off.
        Like even with Cait Sith's betrayal he doesn't kidnap Marlene, nor does he reveal who he is at Shinra, then he feeds some bullshit about keeping them safe (while still not telling them he's a spy).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nor does he reveal who he is at Shinra
          Cait's true identity is only revealed after Rufus's supposedly dies because Reeve accidentally uses the wrong accent in front of Scarlet.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, but the main point is that they still think he's a robot and not being piloted by a Shinra employee

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Midgar also needs to be accessible but since they parachute in I don't think it's going to be its region zone to explore.
        looking forward to your soldier bros from the junon sequence remembering you and assisting infiltration of the city/HQ. so wholesome

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I actually quite liked the idea that another anon posted that they either end up being your crew on the submarine or Highwind

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ah yeah that's even better.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Cloud is supposed to end up with Aerith why didn't he kiss her on the date? He kisses Tifa, and gets visibly upset when Yuffie claims that Tifa forgot about him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Tifa is Cloud's canon love interest. The points were never about romance because the entire party had them. It's a social mechanic.
      If Aerith was ever meant to be a love interest, she would've atleast had a kiss because Tifa has a kiss and a sex scene.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you put the main love interest kissing and fricking in optional scenes?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the main love interest is the one who sits by his side when he is in a vegetative state

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Meteor is falling
            >I only care about Cloud
            Not sure if based or unbased

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >wants to die with Cloud even though he's not even speaking
              ultima based. her love is unbreakable.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not based unless you're very lonely and wish you had a gf who cared about literally nothing else, even the apocalypse, other than you

              I knew theorygays had autism but man these threads have been eye opening

              Is that schrodinger babyseal hiding his phone from max while filming him?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Is that schrodinger babyseal hiding his phone from max while filming him?
                That's exactly what it is

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > i'm gonna sit on my ass watching your comatose body while the world is ending, we'll both die anyway

              How can anybody find this cute is beyond me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if she wasn't there, Mideel goes into the lifestream and Tifa isn't there to save Cloud and by proxy save the world

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the plot falls on her lap without her doing anything. Doesn't change the fact that she was being a selfish frick.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                selfish? by tending to an invalid?
                you know she was probably feeding him like a baby right? for at least a few days

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Selfless would ve trying to stop the world from ending to save him, not to babysit him to feel better about herself. It's like feeding an invalid while the house is on fire instead of trying to get him out of it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're so fricking dense it's unreal
                she travels the world to find him and you think that she is somehow going to be able to summon Holy and fight Sephiroth herself
                you're a fricking moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She could y'know, join the rest of the party who are trying to save the world. Anything would be more productive than sitting on your ass and moping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She has no way of knowing that in advance. Cloud's condition is permanent and incurable as far as anyone is aware so they have no reason to think he's going anywhere. She decides to stop trying to save the world and stays with him to soothe her own sense of guilt for watching him go off the rails while she did nothing. It was a 100% selfish decision.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing cute about it. Tifas character arc is literally around Cloud and is a character with zero substance. Created to appease the western basement boys and insecure women. And there is a lot of them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                t. Aerithsister projecting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the main love interest is the one who sits by his side when he is in a vegetative state
            Z-Zackbros?!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We're so back it's like we never left.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the real canon was clack and aerifa all along
                bros..

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hell, why not. Both pairs would be healthier for each other and it would make the unhinged shippers seethe hard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Always has been

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, she is his nanny not a love interest. The real love interest had been shown to your media illiteracy brain for 2 games. No wonder you Clotis never win canonically. Bahahahaha

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Tifa is not a love interest
              that's why Aerith got mad that Cloud gave Tifa the flower huh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did Remake not let you give it to Marlene like OG?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because you have to earn them. Like Halo ending cut scenes. You get as close to Tifa as you try but it is Tifa nonetheless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So of all the ff l9ve stories 7 is the one where the live scenes are optional?

            Well except the Aerith ones, which are not. Wonder why.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because she's the canon choice.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because she's the canon choice.

              Lol. Lmao even.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NOOOOOOOO TIFA ISN'T A LOVE INTEREST!
                I NEVER PLAYED FINAL FANTASY 7!
                AERITH AERITH AERITH AERITH!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >State of Play trailer talking about the affinity mechanic and it affecting who is on the Gold Saucer date
                >Character shown the entire segment

                Hide this from your Clerith friends

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT CANON NOT CANON DESPITE THERE BEING 7 TIMELINES WHERE ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN THERES NO WORLD WHERE CLOUD IS WITH TIFA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Calm down, Tifa. Relax...it's just a game. We have fanfictions, remember?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The State of Play for Japan was slightly different

                But not this section

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >optional scene

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks Tifa and Cloud under the Highwind is optional

                I want FF7R-only tourists to leave

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess the implied fricking is optional, but the main scene isn't

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the love interest after P3 ultimania

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She and Cloud are the same age afterall. Makes sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tifa = Yuffie > Priscilla > Aerith > Elena > Costa Del Sol girls > Kyrie > everyone else
                I don't make the rules

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Tifa = Yuffie

                I wish Tifa was Yuffie's older sister that just completely mogged her

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ignoring Esther
                gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the chocobo girl right she's pretty good I'd say she's between Aerith and Elena, she doesn't really do anything though so not that memorable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because real Cloud is an awkward dork and Aerith wouldn't kiss him while he's not 100% himself.

      Unlike Tifa that goes for it after he tried to kill her.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tifa's love for him is unconditional, give her any type of Cloud, she will stay by his side.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So a doormat, got it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only reason Cloud even kissed Tifa is because he was jealous of Aerith potentially having any feelings for Zack still. It was a completely slap in the face for Tifa when her first kiss, although optional, was a rebound kiss. Lmao

        Thank god it had no relevance to the plot and not canon. That was actually a win for Aerithbowl.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Vincent Cucklentine: NOOOOOOO STOP BADMOUTHING LUCRETIA! STOP GOING IN HER STUDIO!
    >*Gets BTFO by CHAiD Sith*
    >W-Well I guess I'll follow you guys then
    >Does absolutely nothing except drop random lines from time to time and unlike Cid never even explains why he doesn't fight
    >For whatever reason, he never comments on anything
    Literally Stalling: the character

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a convoluted multiverse time travel story.
    why didn't SE do this with FF8? It'd have worked better, made more sense because villain would be able to pull it off even in the OG and could've also fixed some of the stuff that fans have complained about the OG

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because even if it is more fitting FF8 is nowhere near as liked as 7 and probably wouldn't even get remade until after 6, 9 and 10 have been done.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that this flatty doesn't love Cloud, she loves the fact he roleplays as Zack

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      During the date she literally tells Cloud to his face the only reason she liked him is because he was just like Zack... I was like, wtf is wrong with this b***h? Who wrote this shit? And then tries to fix it by saying but that the one she likes now is Cloud... Yeah right.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what she said, but whatever makes you feel better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She said she wanted to meet me though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this was known back in 1997 lol
      it's not news

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are way too many moments in the game where characters are talking but the audio is "muted". No theory is going to be right without knowing all the missing dialogue.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zack and Cloud deserve someone better than Aerith who keeps playing both sides. If Zack was alive she would flirt with both of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I felt bad when Marlene told Zack that Aerith likes Cloud.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's okay, Zack's a strong boy. Even if this actually comes to pass in Part 3, he'll be alright.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If Aerith passes he can just go back to Gongaga and claim Cissnei. Never leave home without a backup plan

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chad always has women falling for him no matter what he does.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And Biggs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chad always makes bros who'll back him up. Honestly making nerds "cool" instead of turning nerds into chads is why hollywood is failing these days.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I miss reno.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So long as they recast for part 3 he should be back.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one who thinks that Sephiroth plan is basically to prevent his death? It feels like he was testing with both Zack and Aerith to see how he can manipulate fate to prevent something from happening.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He can't really die at this point. The planet is racist again ayy lmaos and even if she wasn't, he refuses to get absorbed by the Lifestream anyway.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but it feels like Sephiroth is trying to make it so he survives in the Remake timeline and then have it merge with the OG one.
        Atleast that's what it comes off looking to me. He's trying to pull strings so he can survive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they turn Sephiroth into Ultimecia?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To keep cucking 8gays

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SE thought "We want the FF8 fans too", they were probably tricked by Nomura-san...

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Watch the Aerith date scene
    >Basically admits she only likes Cloud because he reminds her of Zack

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >watch snippets of a story
      >get a wrong impression

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well no I played the game, I just went back and watched the other date scenes. She literally says that Cloud reminds her of Zack

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You left out the second half where she accepts Zack is gone and she wants to move on with the real Cloud

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            At no point does she say she's moved on. She's accepted that Cloud cannot replace Zack, and she wants to "find" Cloud i.e. figure out who he is past the schizo bullshit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >where she accepts Zack is gone and she wants to move on with the real Cloud
            This never happened you schizo. Are you making shit up like Cloud now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong impression my ass. That is literally what happens and right before that she was at Gongaga visiting his parents for god's sake. She even told Tifa about Zack and everything. The game is pretty explicit about the fact that Aerith likes Cloud because he reminds her of Zack.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe watch the whole date

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seems more like Aerith want to figure out who Cloud is past the larp

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ma belle femme Aerith

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no you can hear the cries of the planet playing as you enter the forgotten city
    >No Cloud monologue
    >No burial

    Opted for Schizo Cloud/Cloud perceiving the good timeline yet existing in the bad OG timeline at the same time

    Fricking geriatric fools at Square thought Avengers slop belonged in FF7. These hacks have that entire forgotten city section to thank for their entire careers and existence and they chose to shit on it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Checklist gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>No Cloud monologue
      >>No burial
      Both of these happened. The first actually happens in this game itself. We just have no audio.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hojochads, status?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Marry and impregnate a hot scientist
      >Experiment on a random Turk
      >Said Turk later works as your security guard for free
      Hojo won

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloud is just a child, Tifa and Aerith are too old for him

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The guys with "Glenn" are 100% Nero and Weiss right? Also what the frick is up with Sarruf?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nero and Weiss should be chilling in Deepground since Hojo will eventually take over Weiss's body if DoC is any indication
      Glenn is Sephiroth using his Jenova mimic power
      Sarruf is the name Rufus's was using when he was funding ISIS (literally his own name backwards because he probably thought it was hilarious)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sarruf is the name Rufus's was using when he was funding ISIS (literally his own name backwards because he probably thought it was hilarious)
        Ok but what's the purpose of that bit with him? What were they trying to say?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was playing both sides until his dad died. In BC he was funding and leaking intel to Avalanche to get him killed, it's probably the same in the Remake continuity except they made him the interim president of Wutai too.
          Now Glenniroth wants to distract him because in the end he's the one who destroys the barrier around the northern crater so that's why he declares war on shinra.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That the Wutai opposition to Shinra is actually an inside job by Rufus

            I struggle a bit to connect the characters to each plotline, but it feels like Vincent will be tied with Cloud while Yuffie/Cid/Barret will be against Scarlet/Deepground while Red/Cait/Tifa are on the WEAPON/lifestream job I think?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shouldn't Tifa sit out most of the weapon stuff? She should be babysitting Cloud, I don't think she was on the team against Ultimate Weapon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like the Weapon stuff will be radically different. Despite already being released they seem to be pretty content with the main party after Tifa's whole lifestream experience. Maybe they won't attack Mideel and instead stick to attacking Shinra?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the final Weapon scene in the game suggests that Sephiroth takes control of those Weapons using his jannies so that could be the reason they turn into fights

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They had that weird Tifa enters the lifestream segment which makes me think that she will be more involved with it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no chance the weapon stuff isn't being changed since they love to do fixed party segments and also the whole Glenn deal

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That the Wutai opposition to Shinra is actually an inside job by Rufus

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew theorygays had autism but man these threads have been eye opening

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't usually feel bad for millionaire youtubers but damn

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there any proof that Cloud wants to be in a relationship with Tifa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He kissed her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They may be more explicit this time
      AC was always too safe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only If they change their personalities.

        We alreadey know form AC. Cloud was depressed and distant and she didn't know how to talk to him without making the relationship worse.
        The writer said Cloud and Tifa will never have a romantic relationship that works. The personalities don't fit. They can work the best as friends

        I don't rememeber this. You can't control happines or sadness it's just there. In dirge of cerberus Cloud was still single, Tifa's relation to him was writen as "childhood friend" again. People talked about the books where Tifa and Cloud's interactions are almost always frustrating.
        The problem is they did not have alternatives for a new partner to move on. The people who Ship them, project themsleves in to them without undrstanding the characters.

        In most fan Art or fanfics you will see, they change their personalites how they would like them to be to work.

        [...] - yea. look at this, Tifa acts like Tifa would act , but Cloud would act like this smooth romantic, only if you change his personality.

        [...] - or this, here Cloud acts like Cloud, but Tifa acts like Aerith or Jessie

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was Aerith talking to Zack in the hotel at junon? I swear there is something kinda off about her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, she was talking to Red XIII. He was using his real voice around her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On the off-chance you're actually serious, she was talking with Red. You know, the character we see her talking to in secret.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shill Up's review for rebirth just dropped

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go to the timeline where it's actually good anon...

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mogged by free DLC

    WOAG

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based Ape doesn't need to do this to advertise his better game, pizza tower developer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stardew Valley creator is the comfiest guy. I like him

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no no no no no Claerith bros not like this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is Tifa not doing anything back? she is just letting herself get dragged in. She isnt even hugging him back or getting into it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PC release
      >Aerith will be modded into this scene
      >over either character

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't see shit.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rebirth really did a good job with Barret and Yuffie. I was wondering why they didn't show his wife in the flashback then I realized they wanted to go for something more gut wrenching when the trial happened.
    Red came off a bit weak instead, the voice change was a bit tough to digest.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly lost ALL interest the moment I found out she dies again despite time ghosts. I have completely checked out, day 1 pc pirate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  65. 3 weeks ago
    sage

    kingdom hearts-ifying 7 was their last hail mary, yes. very sad but it's a dying frqnchise/company so who gives a frick

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick timelines
    Frick shipping
    Frick plot twists
    Will they include the most iconic line of FF7?

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I gladly fight avalanche for the hot shinra commander

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait to meet her again on the submarine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >storming Midgar in part 3
        >have to fight your loyal troops
        Bros...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah they'll happily become Cloud's "hostages", then sit down shut up and drink their ******* tea.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I die for she.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I saved her...she saved me...and round and round it goes.

    It's a loop, anons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a loop
      I'll be disappointed if it isn't now, the setup is perfect for it

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tifagays

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So Sephiroth is obsessed with Cloud, Tifa, Rufus and Genesis while he ignores Zack on purpose out of fear

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is clearly trying to maybe possess cloud body I think.
        For some reason he keeps trying to kill Tifa which to me seems a hint he doesn't want the lifestream scene in part 3 to happen.
        The whole Glenn thing was him trying to bait Rufus so that he wouldn't work on the cannon.
        And since Genesis is the planet's protector or envoy it feels like he is baiting him to intervene.
        Meanwhile he keeps ignoring Zack but he feels outright angry that he is present instead of being aloof and distant so it comes off as fear

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >For some reason he keeps trying to kill Tifa which to me seems a hint he doesn't want the lifestream scene in part 3 to happen.
          I thought that too. It makes sense he'd want Tifa gone because she's the only reason Cloud ends up being able to fight back

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no actually it ALL HAS TO DO WITH AERITH BECAUSE AERITH AERITH AERITH AERITH!
            fricking Aerith gays are pure cancer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And since Genesis is the planet's protector or envoy it feels like he is baiting him to intervene.
          I wonder about that. Opera Omnia said that he actively purged his memories of Genesis and Angeal to become a strong independent ayy lmao who needs no friends, but they aren't truly gone and he has a meltdown when Angeal confronts him with his memories of Genesis specifically. He's not so much obsessed as outright terrified of the emotional hold Genesis still might have on him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he seems to ignore Aerith as much as possible as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He don't give a frick about Tifa. She literally has no plot relevance. Marlene has more importance to the story than Tifa ffs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree it felt like Sephiroth was actively trying to get Tifa killed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice to know you've never played the games

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cloud is a twink
      >Rufus is a twink
      >Genesis is a twink
      >Tifa is a girl
      What does this tell us?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair everyone is obsessed with Rufus

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > tifa
      > not aerith

      Be serious

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am serious, Sephiroth trying to murder Tifa multiple times in the game is suspicious. Especially when she is inside the weapon it shows he was specifically after her

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If they make a plot twist with Sepiroth killing Tifa right before she can help Cloud fix his mind, it will be something on the level of the Aeris death scene in OG.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ultimania is gonna completely destroy Clotis and expose their dyslexia. Bahahahahaha

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So when Cloud and Tifa frick underneath the Highwind again how are shippers gonna react?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >T rated
      >sex scenes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aerithtards will be mad that their theory about ghost sex was always dumb wishful thinking. Just like Tifa dying in Rebirth. Or just like Aerith living. Always on the wrong, delusional side of history.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Promised Land is calling to me.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Marlene has more importance to the story than Tifa
    this is how absolutely mindbroken and deranged the Aerith cult is

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sister Ray destroys the barrier
    >Hojo thinks firing it again will help Sephiroth
    ???

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm genuinely sorry for you if you expected anything else.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would have been hilarious if he had appeared on camera like this as Sarruf in that broadcast and then no one recognizing who it is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hello my name is Sarruf
      >I come from some place... far away
      >Yes that'll do
      >I suggest we give all our materia over to the local energy concern

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the way Mr. Sarruf thinks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's giving me vague Ignis vibes...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >THATS IT IVE COME UP WITH A NEW RECIPE
        why did you have to remind me

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are now imagining that Rufus in anons image saying it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's it!
          >What's what?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's going to be like this but with sunglasses, maybe even different hairstyle and attitude

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He should wear a mask like Char. I mean, WEAPONs are already Gundam references

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf I'm in love with Rufus yet I'm feeling attracted to Sarruf for some reason

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Threesome with Rufus and Sarruf

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have you noticed they never appear in the same scene?

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible to understand anything going on or be invested in it if you haven't played the original games?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just go play the original FF7, oaf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I believe you can go with Remake blind, but you'd be dissapointed if you go with Rebirth without the knowledge of the OG.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rebirth expects you to have played the OG, Remake, Intergrade, and Crisis Core at the very least

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't really use much from crisis core they didn't even namedrop Angeal once ffs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They reference the ending to Crisis Core like four different times and they pull in Cissnei, not to mention Loveless

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ending of Remake will be infinitely more random if you have no concept of who Zack is

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Just open the wiki bro.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, in the sense that even if you haven't, you probably know the broad strokes of its plot through osmosis alone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you've played the original and the compilation shit, you'll be able to be 100% invested in the story.
      If you go immediately into just Remake/Rebirth, you'll be able to be about 85% invested in the story.
      There's a lot of little hints that the Remake/Rebirth trilogy is more a meta-sequel here the antagonist goes back in time to try to redo things so the events don't happen in the same manner as in the original, but we're 2 games into the 3 game series and that has yet to actually be confirmed yet.

      You also won't have the context of where the story changes, which genuinely will let you get more engaged with the story, as you won't be left scratching your head going 'the frick did they change this for?' like a lot of us have been.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what the frick does the seven seconds till the end mean bros???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seven seconds until the world ends or some shit
      see part 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you got seven seconds left to refund the game if you speedrun it

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will Tifa ever receive plot relevance?

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the entire core of the story is Cloud and Tifa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hahahahha
      Marlene is more important to the story than Tifa.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        play Final Fantasy 7 you insufferable homosexual lord

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it goes like this
    OG
    Advent Children
    FF7 Remake
    Crisis Core Reunion
    FF7 Rebirth
    I don't make the rules

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is going on in the ending?
    Sephiroth falls in love with Cloud.

    Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina (Jenova) with the Ex-SOLDIER's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.

    But, the next day, when Sephiroth recounts the previous day's confessions to Cloud, he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Cloud he called is not the same Cloud he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Cloud's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the Sephiroth's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.

    Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is going on in the ending?
    Sephiroth is trying to create a mass of differing emotions to reunite the now split multiverse.
    To do this, when he goes to kill Aerith, he has Cloud schizo hallucinate that Cloud saved Aerith, with the intention on rug pulling Cloud and revealing that he didn't actually save Aerith, thus turning the moment of pure bliss (where Cloud saves her) into a moment of pure despair (where Cloud fails and she dies).
    However, before he's able to do that, the Aerith that persists in the lifestream that may or may not be Aerith from the original game does SOMETHING to Cloud that makes it so where Sephiroth can no longer pull the rug from under him. She does this by basically gaslighting Cloud into believing that Cloud saved Aerith.

    The confluence of emotions occurs anyway when Cloud is there happy as can be that he just saved Aerith while the rest of the party rush in and see a dead Aerith and start to immediately mourn and drop into despair.

    The fight against Bizarro Sephiroth happens, and once his mission or rejoining the worlds is complete, he fricks off. However, before fricking off, he tries one last time to take control of Clouds mind (this is the final fight against normal Sephiroth with Cloud+Aerith). Cloud/Aerith manage to beat Sephiroth back, and as such Cloud retains his free will and self control.

    The cutscene at the end is just lifestream Aerith finally getting a chance to say goodbye to the party - as she never got a chance in the original. The Zack bits are irrelevant, because Zack is overall irrelevant to what is happening, however it's very strongly suggested that (regardless of the dialog Zack says) he's back in the prime timeline with the rest of the cast, just back in Midgar, becuase Sephiroth was successful in remerging all of the timelines back together during the ending of the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>The cutscene at the end is just lifestream Aerith finally getting a chance to say goodbye to the party
      nope

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess you're one of the morons that, because you didn't actually play the game and just watched streamers, genuninely believe it's Jenova, right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what the frick is with this "you didn't play the game" cope?
          anyone who payed attention knows that Aerith would not be speaking to Cloud like this
          there is zero logical explanation outside of Black Robe red herring why Aerith would ask Cloud to make a promise to her whenever the entire motif of the game was that Cloud and Aerith don't have any promises to keep?
          Why would Aerith ask Cloud to promise to face Sephiroth?
          If she is Lifestream Aerith, would she not know that Cloud going to Sephiroth means the Meteor will be summoned?
          Why does she lie to Cloud and say that she will stop Meteor whenever Meteor has not been summoned?

          if the ghost that SPEAKS to Cloud at the end is Aerith, Aerith is one fricked up ass b***h

          if the ghost that speaks to Cloud at the end is Jenova, well then that makes perfect sense why he is seeing and speaking with a dead loved one

          the fricking creepy ass music that plays when Cloud looks over to see Aerith sitting there

          the fact that she has almost zero unique new dialogue and is only repeating lines

          THE FACT SHE ASKS CLOUD TO PROMISE HER SOMETHING WHENEVER SHE SANG THAT THERE WERE NO PROMISES TO KEEP

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We get it. You have zero media literacy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what the frick is with this "you didn't play the game" cope?
            Because it's obvious you didn't play the game if you genuinely think Aerith at the end is secretly Jenova.
            The fact that Red can somewhat sense her completely invalidates the entire theory. If it truly was Jenova, the only reason Cloud would be able to see her as Aerith is because Cloud has S/J cells in him, and the hallucination is just a different version of the hallucinations he already has. Which means if Red was able to sense Jenova in that moment, it means that Red is also infused with S/J cells, and as such he too should be having schizo moments like Cloud.
            But he doesn't.

            And such, the entire theory falls completely apart.
            >but but but muh red betrayal in the original!!! jenova manipluates him, it's a nod to that!!!!
            l m a o
            no.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying Jenova wouldn't be able to influence Red
              you know you're wrong
              he ASKS "Aerith?" meaning he doesn't know if it's Aerith or not
              the fact is, Aerith has never been shown to be able to speak from beyond the grave, only appear
              so if her visage is hanging around the party, it makes PERFECT SENSE that Jenova would USE THAT AGAINST CLOUD in order to keep him on the path that summons the Meteor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he ASKS "Aerith?" meaning he doesn't know if it's Aerith or not
                He asks because he can suddenly feel her when he knows she's dead. Is this your first game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you genuinely think that Red is just randomly at that exact moment that Jenova-Aerith touches him is able to feel the REAL Aerith, even though the REAL Aerith has never shown being able to speak from beyond the grave or speak, etc etc?

                Sorry DOOD but your theory falls apart completely under the slightly bit of thought. It's a neat gut reaction theory for the first time you watch the ending, but once you actually start thinking about it and the logic behind it, it completely dissintergrates under it's own weight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no anon you're wrong, you see there's a Jenova-Aerith AND a Lifestream-Aerith in that final cutscene and the game jumps between the two and treats them like they're the same character because red harring!
                This is how insane you sound btw.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying jenova totally helped cloud fight sephiroth
                what a ridiculously stupid theory but go ahead and pull some shit out of your ass how THAT aerith was actually different

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >THE FACT SHE ASKS CLOUD TO PROMISE HER SOMETHING WHENEVER SHE SANG THAT THERE WERE NO PROMISES TO KEEP
            You can thank the localization for that. The original JP script says something along the lines of that they don't even need to make a promise because that's how strong their bond is.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >MY HEADCANON SAYS NO PROMISES EVER
            what the frick?

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will Clerith stocks increase after Rebirth? Will we get more members?

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifakeks can never get over the reality of canon ff7 story which they were brainwashed to believe Cloud was ever interested in Tifa romantically. Now they go around looming meh sales...game flopped. Chap 13/14 are bad. Fricking kek. Insufferable bastards.

    Game is fricking amazing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they were brainwashed to believe Cloud was ever interested in Tifa romantically
      you smoke crack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not copium atleast.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks the girl Cloud ends up with is the dead one

      Do people still do this almost three decades later?

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fans can't let go of childhood game, keep begging to relive it anew
    >company eventually gives in but adds meta narrative reflecting on people's desire to relive the past
    >some fans now hate it because it's confrontational
    yeah I'm thinking Square is based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >confrontational
      You say this as if its anything other than non stop fanwanking.
      What's the most "confrontational" thing they've done so far? Bringing Zack into the game? The MOST fanwanky fanfictiony moron demand possible?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What's the most "confrontational" thing they've done so far?
        Take a good story and turn it into a convoluted mess that takes a decade to tell

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care how objectively fanwanky it was, Zack and Cloud fighting Sephiroth together was based as frick

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jimbo falseflag

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never got a real answer to this, and we never will

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Typical

    it happened
    your eyes are cloudy

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do people fail to realize that the true Cloud is and always was guy trying to be a knight in shining armor for Tifa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why do people fail to realize that the true Cloud wants to racemix with Tifa

      you should stop watching interracial porn

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Zack literally plays like a Dragonball character charging ki for his busted attacks
    Based

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else just not care about muh story being "good" or "bad" and simply thankful to get more FF7 and an excuse to spend more time with these characters?
    Not to mention the fact that clotis are eating good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do care about the story, and overall didn't like the changes, but I can keep my peace and still enjoy the game. Would buy all three when it came to PC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Talk about low to no standards.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Shine bright once more...this time I will never let you go."

    Damn. Will Tifa always be the rebound?

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only people into FF are unhinged lunatics. glad your franchise is dead and irrelevant, keep your mental illness to your pathetic group

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MUH MEDIA LITERACY
    have a nice day

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek remake apologists in full force defending this dumpsterfire of a plot. SE are total hacks and its cope to think otherwise
    but tbh it was a good idea for them to spread this garbage over 3 games though, so every 3 years it resurfaces delaying it being forgotten like all other ff7 expanded universe shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's one of the few modern masterpieces

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've gotta say between this and CCR the new Zack VA has grown on me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same
      It was p much the ONE valid criticism of those games but now I'm not sure. I think it might no longer be a valid criticism anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was pretty bad in Remake which made everyone start off disliking him. Couple that with the original performance being one of the best ones from the complication and the reaction makes sense.
        Comparing CCR to Remake and I think it's pretty obvious he just had really bad direction

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's mocking you. He's pretty much saying "shut up moronic fanboy, it's shit" but since he loves to act like a woman, he hides it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same. He's legit good in Rebirth and arguably better than Gomez.

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zack is no homosexual he slays homos like he grabs pussy of the finest quality like Cissnei, flowergirl and, most importantly, Yuffie dicky

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Baby Seph a cute

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    アエリス

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so how did Jenova ever trick anyone if she can't trick Cloud or Red?

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >game shows you 7 different timelines
    >it's not possible for Aerith's image to be used by Jenova in a fractured timeline despite this ability being a major plot point and the singular defining characteristic of the villain
    okay yall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not only does he think Aerith=Jenova at the end, he still thinks there's multiple timelines after the end of Rebirth
      lmao you genuinely are a cutscene skipper or someone that didn't actually play the game. and since you're parroting DOODs theory so hard, I have to assume you literally only watched max play Rebirth and thought since he's the "professor of FF7" he would know everything and his theory would be right.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh ok i guess the different worlds sephiroth showed was just a funny joke and suddenly waking up in the slums after the labyrinth was just a coincidence

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have noticed that everyone who screams "Aaaahhhh KH" have a below average IQ. It inhibits their ability to follow any story that isn't spoonfeed to them.

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reeeee Tifa is selfish for cleaning Clouds dirty drawls and spoonfeeding him while he was in a wheelchair and then being the only person who attempted to get him out of Mideel when the weapon showed up
    >reeeeeee I hate Tifa because I want Aerith to live with Cloud forever
    just fricking have a nice day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tihomosexuals really got mindbroken by the remakes

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Claerith gays are mentally unwell just like Cloud
    >they want to believe Aerith is alive just like Cloud
    >they can only see with clouded eyes
    kino

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else just hope that Aerith is happy?

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since Aerith is confirmed to be Clouds love interest in part 2, again, will Tifa even get the lifestream sequence? Looks like she is gonna get keked again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will be in and the game will let you pick her if you want but Aerith will be the obvious intended choice.

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dood Dood Dood Dood
    nobody knows what the frick you're talking about
    I played the game and came to the conclusion that Aerith's ghost at the end that SPEAKS to Cloud is not Aerith but a demonic apparition
    the music that plays when she appears sitting at the pool of water is extremely unsettling
    why would Aerith be sitting there with them grieving her own death
    why would she sit there smiling at Tifa while Tifa is on the brink of tears

    NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE

    Unless the ghost isn't really Aerith

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why would Aerith be sitting there with them grieving her own death
      Because she is gaslighting cloud into thinking that she is still alive so Cloud doesn't have a schizo fit and fall so deep into despair that he becomes a black robe. You know, the thing the game had been building to for the entire goddamn 50 hours of story?
      >why would she sit there smiling at Tifa while Tifa is on the brink of tears
      Presumably becuase she knows Tifa will be the key to fixing Cloud and she's leaving it all in his hands, sort of like they've been hinting at throughout the entire 50 hour story whenever Tifa and Aerith are having a private conversation.

      It makes sense when you pull your head out of your favorite streamers ass and think about what we've seen in game.
      The only thing that DOESN'T make sense is how people genuinely think Aerith=Jenova at the end. The only way I can undertand that making sense is if you genuinelly did not play the game and only watched streamers. And even the streamer that spewed the theory to his masses 3 days ago has already come around and said that his initial theory was stupid and doens't actually make sense.
      Yet here you are, still defending his halfass theory, and now saying that it's totally your theory that you cameup with on your own and that you've been talking about for week despite the fact that some of us (like myself) have been in these threads literally since march 2nd and haven't seen shit about Jenova=Aerith until DOOD beat the game and came to that conclusion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you've been posting this same gaslighting bullshit for weeks bro I'm done arguing with you about it

        frick you if you think Aerith is gaslighting Cloud
        frick the developers if that is the intention

        anyone who played the original game who sees where this is going can tell it's a Jenova manipulation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >oh i have secret knowledge from playing the first game thats why i KNOW jenova=aerith even though all evidence in game directly is against this!
          lmao the cope is hilarious.
          i genuinely hope you're done arguing with us about it, and by that I mean i genuinely hope you stop posting in these threads at all, because they've been utterly RUINED by idiots like you that think their batshit insane doesn't make sense under the slightest bit of thought theory is the only theory that is valid and won't shut the frick up about how wrong everyone elses theory is while not actually ever going into detail how their theory makes sense or give any context or any information.
          it's always just
          >lol trust me bro its all part of the plan youll see

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't wanting Cloud to frick your waifu kind of a cuck move?

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    did anyone else cry during their trials? aerith's one was so sad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dyne death in Japanese and Aerith's segment both got me because I'm a dad of daughters and it plays very unfair.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think I'll do my hard mode playthrough in japanese.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't affect me as much, since Aerith's flashback is basically just retelling the same scene from the OG and Remake.
      Honestly, I think the whole trial scenes are lame. It's not so "trial" whatsoever, but Aerith's speech is good imo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ARE YOU DONE?
        what did Clouderoth mean by this?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sephiroth also wanted his own trial scene of watching Genesis ditch his ass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's supposed to represent the talk the party has on the highwind when they are trying to guess why are they fighting. Cloud now acts like an ass, but in part 3 he will complete aerith speech and everyone reason to suffer will be transformed into their reason to fight.

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yuffie looks like a little boy sometimes

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to be honest. I do care that Tifa and Cloud end up together and are happy because it is my ship. But I also explicitly want Clerith to lose and be forgotten because to have my canon ship alone is not enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it true that they are not together in Advent Children thoughever? Seems pretty scummy of Cloud to pump and dump.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i want the depressed mailman ending
      >i consider this to be the happy ending
      ok coomer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Coomer
        >Unable to accept men can be happy
        So Aerith is allowed to move on but Cloud isn't?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not saying he can't but he obviously doesn't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tihomosexuals are so selfish they want this for cloud

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AerithBlack folk either have to inexplicably revive Aerith or have Cloud die to be together

            How is that bettee

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >AerithBlack folk either have to inexplicably revive Aerith
              Which is exactly what happened in game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she's dead bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope
                Hope won
                She's alive

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and Xion has been erased from all existe-

                Except the one they clearly show when he doesn't, yeah.

                yall mothafrickas got clouded eyes baka

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                or maybe we can see the writing on the wall with these same creators, same happy end intentions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and Xion has been erased from all existe-

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not the same thing. These aren't real people. They're characters in a story. Tools to tell a plot. Aerith's past love is part of the backstory and he's barely a character so she's in no way bound to him when the plot of VII begins. Her and Cloud are the plot for the vast bulk of VII's runtime and they're much harder to separate from each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rainbows because this can only happen in some alternate world now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why is AI able to make Cloud so easily but not other characters?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Skill issue.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can gen Tifas all day

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            which one do you use? i used bing and it flags any mention of Tifa as being porn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Silver go back to sleep

  112. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >guys the rainbow light that signifies a new timeline is created was just in clouds head when he saved aerith shes dead in every timeline haha
    did we play the same game?

  113. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >open thread
    >500 posts of autism
    >close thread

  114. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I MUST SEE MY MOTHER
    >MY MOTHER IS EVERYTHING
    >I WILL DESTROY THE WORLD FOR MOTHER
    >this is somehow Sephiroth's plan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it possible he was abused ala Norman Bates?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean dude grew up with hojo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when exactly?
        he never met Jenova until Nibelheim
        her will completely and totally subsumes him and replaces any and all good in his heart
        it's all there in the original game

  115. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like how Zack stays so positive even though everything is so depressing and also wacky.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you want to frick aerith cloud?!? go ahead man!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zack's just happy his bro can score now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you do realize that Zack is 6 ft 3 and is a genuine chad as opposed to a poser like Cloud, right? he has every reason to be optimistic because he won the genetic lottery

  116. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they remade 8 do you think Laguna would be fun? Would Edea have a sexy voice?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would love an 8 remake and seeing the garden in all it's glory but it will literally never happen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm playing 8 right now and I think it would be really good if they just copy and pasted 8 onto Rebirth's systems especially since it seems they have totally figured out how to make good movement controls for all the different vehicles and ships and shit. the setting and story is ripe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The junction system sucks ass though, would need a complete overhaul.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you'd just have to make it so that drawing in combat is seamless. and you can draw plenty of magic. then, simply make the stat scale with your level instead of being a fixed value set by the stack number. no slapping 100 of something and getting such a massive boost at the start. just make it so that it scales naturally. you can slap 100 on but that won't make such a massive difference. then you'd just have profile tabs so you can easily swap junction loadouts instead of just trading them between characters. it could work

  117. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So are Broden and Rorsche basically dead? Zack wasn't injected with Sephiroth cells right? Or was he resistant? I forgot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zack has S-cells, so he’s resistant to G-type AIDS, but he’s also mentally strong enough to avoid getting black robed.

  118. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Vincent or Zack get cucked harder?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vicnent. Zack kept things moving, Vincent went to go cry in his coffin for however many years and whines on and on about his sins.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zack never actually got cucked so it's Vincent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao Vincent are you even kidding me? Zack died for 5 years while Vincent was cucked simply because Lucretia is a loose bawd

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vincent
      >Gets cucked
      >Cries like a b***h and hides in his gay little coffin
      Zack
      >Dies
      >Remains rent free in Aerith's head for five years
      >Is only """cucked"" by the guy larping as him
      >Gets with Aerith properly when she dies too anyway
      You tell me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vincent
        >Gets cucked
        >Cries like a b***h and hides in his gay little coffin

        I can't wait for part 3 just to have Hojo's VA going ham on the lines belittling Vincent for being cucked. Dude's got a great scummy c**t voice.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is literally dead. There’s nothing more cucked than getting killed. Shows you are weak and worthless, it’s a gg with no re

  119. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gast finds an ancient lifeform in stasis
    >Dubs it "Jenova"
    >Temple of the Ancients also refers to Jenova by name
    Did this bother anyone else
    The Cetra never actually called her Jenova before, only the "destroyer of worlds" or the "calamity that fell from the skies" and such

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Gast finds an ancient lifeform in stasis
      >>Dubs it "Jenova"
      Maybe he just saw Cetra writings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        or maybe you are creating headcanon to explain a plot hole (or lazy writing/localization)
        they don't ever say he reviewed any manuscripts from the ancients

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, it's not that important a detail. Why not explain it away with a headcanon so you can enjoy the rest of the game peacefully?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Uhh, and how did they know the Cetra were called the "Cetra"? Even the Cetra call themselves that. What about how they already knew of the Temple?

          Come on moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You mean the temple of the ANCIENTS?
            Jesus christ did you even play the game they don't know the Cetra are called "Cetra" they call them "the ancients"

  120. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you guys like Gears and Gambits? I found it confusing on hard, I didn't really like it in FF12 either.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only minigame I enjoyed was Queen's Blood

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I liked the rocket league one with red 13 and fort condor too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I liked Fort Condor for the novelty of having the low poly models but that's about it. I didn't like it in Intergrade either

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like most of the mini games - Piss easy don't even need to think about it on normal, need to use an exact perfect meta strat on hard.

  121. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so in every single timeline that ever occurs, Sephiroth kills Aerith

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except the one they clearly show when he doesn't, yeah.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you mean the one they actually don't show clearly at all? that flip flips between her being dead and alive while also showing cloud's head being fricked with?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, Sephiroth tried to converge timelines around that instant but then Cloud beats him up so he runs away like a little pussy and Aerith lives.

  122. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: Clouded eyes

  123. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sephiroth knows Tifa is a threat because she is Cloud's salvation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sephiroth just wants Tifa dead so she and her breasts join the Lifestream where he is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sephiroth, son of the calamity Jenova, is now that one incel friend who says the most coomer shit all the time
        What were they thinking?

  124. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does Sephiroth never one time question Aerith's existence whenever he knows that she is the character that he always has to kill
    never one time does Sephiroth tell Cloud that Aerith isn't real, until the very end when he continues to frick with Cloud and then Cloud says "that shit won't work on me anymore"
    despite the fact that in the ending cutscene that shit is most definitely still working on him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A. I don't think it's Lifestream Sephiroth for most of the game
      B. Cloud is a moron puppet

  125. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifa has no personality traits besides titcow kickboxer but that's ok.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >titcow kickboxer good listener bartender knows how to cook knows how to run a business in a tough world knows how to use her looks to her advantage when she needs to but isn't a flirt or a bawd thinks night and day about her first love for years while he was away and never ever forgot about him who saves his life and then saves the world together with him by kick boxing and suplexing "God" into oblivion

      Tifa is one of the best characters in video games

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >knows how to cook
        Do Midgarians really?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've never understood how fish and chips are good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            homie it says EGGS and chips

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he didn't get all the dialogue about her cooking Cloud steak and pot roast
          you're some Aerith gay huh
          Aerith never one time offers to do anything for Cloud lmfao some lover she is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She sucks off every stranger to enter her bar. Gives up her ass to most of em too, why do you think she had a shitty flat right next to the bar?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want to see Tifa suplexing people in Remake, unfortunately that's not her 3rd limit break in this game. Maybe they will incorporate the suplex into the 4th limit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Probably would be hell to animate so I doubt it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks night and day about her first love for years while he was away and never ever forgot about him

        doesnt that make her a roastie prostitute?

  126. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could Barret beat Sephiroth in a fist fight?

  127. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Really liked the final scene, Cid saying "no heavy loads on the plane" legit made me lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      everyone took turns blowing loads into Tifa

  128. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The one thing that confuses me is how Zack addresses Cloud as an actual SOLDIER during the last fight, while we know he knows Cloud was low-level meatshield infantry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's been listening to Biggs talk all day about how much of a badass 'Cloud' is.

  129. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should have slowly introduced the zack multiverse stuff throughout the game instead of just lore dumping you at the end.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Classic SE bad storytelling. KH and Chrono Cross are structured like that as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Chrono Cross
        This game is such a mess but I still love it, had no idea who half the people in my party are.

  130. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who is going to explain the creepy ass music when Aerith appears sitting there while the party is grieving?
    is that Ultima Aerith Prime gaslighting the player?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only Cloud can see her and everyone else aside from maybe Tifa and Vincent think he's gone full schizo because she died.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one cares about your dumb theory Max.

        not an argument as to why the developers chose to play extremely unsettling music and not happy music whenever Cloud turns his head slowly to see the ghost of his dead loved one he just laid to rest and then mindblocked the memory of

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He never loved her. She was an annoyance to him at best and sexually abusive to him at worst

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because its not framed as positive. He's going deranged.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and that's Aerith's plan huh
            to act like an evil villain with music to boot?
            haunting Cloud is bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one cares about your dumb theory Max.

  131. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love sperging out with you guys, let's do it again next thread.

  132. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm seeing a lot of headcanon ITT...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe you should have made the ending a bit more clear then, Nojima

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clear storytelling is for brainlets who aren't autistic enough for schizo theorycrafting

  133. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think aerith and tifa are both cool

  134. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao I didn't notice this, so they literally framed that bit as Zack and Aerith not Cloud and her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hated this. Its been 5 years since CC and all Zack has to say to Sephiroth is the same tired Soldier honor shit. So lazy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What else would he say? Start raving about Angeal for the 10th time?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anything. Or maybe just say nothing. A grim acceptance that Sephiroth is set in his path.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You had that when Marlene told him Sephiroth was still alive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The more screentime zack gets the more boring he becomes. A gary stu with no depth makes a good icon, but not a good character

  135. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloti wins

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sick of AI always giving my cloud renders tattoos for no reason. even when I specifically prompt no tattoos it does it anyway

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