I remember one time I went there to say "I think this is how this ability should be changed for balance purposes" and they straight up said "Well that's not how it is and I have no intention of discussing hypotheticals" and then went back to posting porn
2 years ago
Anonymous
You think that's bad? I once asked "Hey guys. I made some mouseover macros for my healer but I broke the input queue somehow. Is there a way to fix this?"
All the answers I got where "go back to WoW"
I don't want to interact with those people because they make it clear they don't want to talk about the game. Keep it to /vg/, that board fricking sucks, if I want to talk about games I'll just hope there's an interesting thread on Ganker instead.
but these threads are 95% people having spergfights over emet/zodiark/hydaelyn/meteion/the sundering so talking about the game is still pretty much impossible. i'll grant you that it's better than whatever the frick goes on in /xivg/ but it's still exhausting wading through the exact same fricking debate about morality for the 500th time
Nobody in /xivg/ actually plays the game outside of ERPing in Limsa on the free trial account. A number of them have admitted to not even starting Stormblood despite "playing" the game for years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They are the same people who will talk so much shit for "only" a purple parse on current content too.
mate Ganker's been the containment board for years
have you seen the state of it? /vg/ is far from a monument on a hill but it actually talks about games more often than Ganker does
Yes, a necessary yet ultimately temporary measure, a bandaid
2 years ago
Anonymous
No shit. The Ancients didn't have a fricking clue what was happening.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The only temporary part of it is that it fricked over Endsinger so much she had to resort to heat death instead. It does not seem temporary to me as Zodiark is still doing fine until we Fandaniel baits us into killing him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It does not seem temporary to me as Zodiark is still doing fine until we Fandaniel baits us into killing him.
I'd argue that while it would take the ascians a very long time to get all the rejoinings minus the 13th under their belt, 13/14 doesn't seem like enough aether diffusion to protect the Source from Meteion's autism beams.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But with Zodiark just chilling on the moon, you don't even need to address the problem out in space.
And the problem in space mostly comes down to convincing a depressed bird that other people and it have hope until it stops fighting.
All in all a pretty simple problem with a lot of solutions or indefinite suspensions of any issues.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Zodiark was actually starting to fail as seen in the DNC questline. Meteion was still able to get through to people in times of great despair.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those were just void creatures as they did not appear how we know Endsinger interacted with the sundered.
because varis is a braindead moron in a long line of braindead morons who thinks he can one up ascians and get away with it
I suppose thordan technically got away with it but then shit his pants when he saw us
2 years ago
Anonymous
The only thing wrong with Varis's plan was that he needed a bunker for everyone to survive the Calamities. The moon would have worked.
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Emet simps only care about his personality and looks. Everything else does not matter.
said it's literally just his personality and looks. Everything he did was wrong. Still love the guy, but he was wrong. Same goes for Zenos lovers, except his personality is just literal fight autism and he happen to be good looking. If both these guys looked ugly as sin, I beat you nobody would like them as much.
I'd still grin like a moron during the final fight with Zenos if he looked like pic related. But yeah, not as many gamer girls would schlick to the thought of getting choked by him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
His last few lines as he was dying is what saved his character for me. Zenos came off as just an annoying pest that kept getting in the way, but towards the end dude just wanted acceptance for the monster he was created to be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the story this guy is from made me laugh so hard.
"this here's jim, he's been really gettin his shit together lately!"
"oh no!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
role quests were pure shit. holy frick i hope these Black folk arent the future writers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Role quests are directly inferior to job quests. I cant think of any of them I liked better than a job questline except for the Paladin quests because those are infamously bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
The ShB role quests were all solid. Not thrilling, but nice. The EW ones sucked so much ass I can only assumed they were decoupled from the MSQ out of shame
2 years ago
Anonymous
the pirate one foreshadows a lot of future shit. the garlean one was once again pure trash except for nero
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can only hope at this point they kept up with rolequests because WoL fricking off to go hang out with Alka-Zolka, Curious Gorge, or X'ruhn Tia while the apocalypse is happening is a bit of whiplash.
I do hope we go back to them next expac, I enjoy actually having specific job quests.
The crafter and gatherer ones being clumped up is still unforgivable, but at least the fisher one wasn't as awful as ShB this time
So did Vanet sunder the entire universe or just the planet only? Like, what happens if you're in the 4th shard and fly in a space ship into outer space? Would you be able to go to the same moon as on The Source? Would somebody in the Abyss be able to fly to Ultima Thule?
We do know that stars exist on other shards because when you look into the night sky in Shadowbringers zones you can see stars
>So did Vanet sunder the entire universe or just the planet only?
It was just the planet and the immediate surrounding space. Each shard exists in it's own pocket dimension with just a moon (which contained a piece of Zodiark) and a sun, some stars and that's it.
Which begs the question of how the Ark from Nier (which takes place in post-human extinction earth in the year 12000 AD) somehow made it to the First. But don't think about that.
>It was just the planet and the immediate surrounding space. Each shard exists in it's own pocket dimension with just a moon (which contained a piece of Zodiark) and a sun, some stars and that's it.
Honestly, it's probably easiest to just think of it that way since it's close to how we're used to thinking about real world space and heavenly bodies, but at every turn it seems like FFXIV likes to mystify its own world's physical structure and make it that little bit vague-r. The Aetherial Rift is not totally analogous to real-world outer space, but the exact ways in which it differs are nebulous (heh).
The Rift isn't space, it's an in-between dimension that touches every FF world. The Sea of Stars is space. You have to move through the Rift to access the other shards because they're separated by dimensional walls, not by physical space.
So then, why did Omega and Middy go to the trouble of traversing the Rift rather than "the Sea of Stars" if it wasn't strictly necessary for interplanetary travel?
>So did Vanet sunder the entire universe or just the planet only?
It was just the planet and the immediate surrounding space. Each shard exists in it's own pocket dimension with just a moon (which contained a piece of Zodiark) and a sun, some stars and that's it.
Which begs the question of how the Ark from Nier (which takes place in post-human extinction earth in the year 12000 AD) somehow made it to the First. But don't think about that.
Yeah, just Hydaelyn, when you think about it, it's why the elder dragons and midgardsormir are so fricking strong: they're unsundered beings. Later dragon generations are probably weaker because they had to rely on Hydaelyn's aether. And I'm not certain of it, but with it being mentioned dragons don't actually have biological sexes, it makes me suspect dragons reproduce basically via some innate-but-simplified creation magic.
I don't know if sundered affects strength, ( despite what emet says about it dividing everything) the 0 times rejoined Warriors of Darkness and Ran'jit gave 7 times rejoined Scions trouble
>he looks like this in ShB >he filters bioholes >they never start gushing over him nonstop >SE doesn't seen the fanservice potential so Elpis time travel never happens >EW is saved
What could have been...
>Get a good Barb EX party for once >Dead before even going back to the final long hair phase
Thinking about all the god awful groups i've been before in comparison makes me want to fricking scream.
I could only play 2 weeks after the patch dropped and by then i was stuck in the bottom of the barrel of PF with practice and clear parties. Hell even the farm parties now are still mostly shit.
>Been slacking off on Sephirot the past few days. >All the competent people are probably done for the week and all that's left will be the shitters that can't bait Yesod.
frick
>caused the Final Days in two different lifetimes >he is the root cause for every single bad thing that happens in the game
Name a character with a higher kill count than Hermes.
>evolved Etheirys to a state where they became immune to the ennui that killed every other world and also reseeded life in the suicide universe
Hermes won.
Don't forget Venat cursed every Garlean, even the children, to never be able to manipulate Aether. And that is behind 12,000 years of forced mortality and indifferent rule over all life on the planet.
Not that anon but considering she knew what Emet was going to and him doing that was part of her plan you could make the argument. No one looks good though coming out of the sundering honestly.
More importantly he murdered not millions, not even billions, he killed worlds an unquantifiable number, but he WAS RIGHT >right about what
EVERYTHING!
I canceled my sub. Stormblood legit filtered me. It all felt like a filler season of a long running anime. I legit burst out laughing when I reached Kugane and my character had to learn the not-Japan bowing and for some reason I couldn't stop thinking about that stupid Kingdom Hearts meme with Mikey wearing some emo trench coat.
It's a shame. I loved Heavensward and I want to continue the story but even A Real Reborn had more going for it than this disjointed slog. My main job quests (WAR) is basically playing moron daycare. Couldn't think of anything better?
Here's a tip. Skip every cutscene without Zenos in it, he's basically the only thing from Stormblood that matters at all after the expansion. Post patch stuff is decent though.
I did read it. So what? You think the only stuff that matters in a story is what happens at the end?
2 years ago
Anonymous
homie wasn't enjoying the expansion, so I told him what to skip. Read you dumb gay
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only playing the Zenos scenes will put them off even more though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Zenos is the only thing from Stormblood that matters after the expansion. I assumed the guy still wants to have a general idea of the overarching plot, which why I told him to only watch cutscenes with Zenos in it
He probably created a bunch more too on other worlds. He probably did something in the war if the magi as well since he is the one known for being a mage out of the three.
Other than that he was napping and filling in as Azem.
They were the chaos factor needed for the rejoining. To rejoin the first they needed a hero to fight off and win against evil this making the first able to rejoin with the source. Allag for darkness and the 13th(but they goofed) and garlemald for light and for for the 1st.
He probably created a bunch more too on other worlds. He probably did something in the war if the magi as well since he is the one known for being a mage out of the three.
Other than that he was napping and filling in as Azem.
even if he did they were probably killed off by emo bird girl.
Aren't there still some survivers left? Not fully descendant from Emet, but still some Garleans have lived so possibility in them reproducing and living peaceful lives.
Emet isn't the patriarch of the Garlean race, just the Galvus family, and even then it's debatable since he picked Solus and bodyjacked the guy in order to create the Garlean Empire
I was thinking with the zenos/zemus and zero/zeromus there will be soemthing sneaky coming tbh They have the similar dynamics...also when we take out golbez she'll be the strongest in the void with all that aether we are giving her and those crystals...sussy. I do forget zeromus was the final fight in ff4
You realize Emet's children were not his biological children but Solus's (the dude who he was possessing the entire time he rule dover Garlemald)? There's even a short story which makes a point that Varis and co are his "body's" children not his own. Emet didn't have a biological body of his own after he became an Ascian.
Without the sundering of Vana'diel, Promathia's incoming death would have deleted the entire world from existence. All the previously-divine Zilart were gonna die anyway.
You got it backwards. In the real/prime/main timeline or whatever, the crystal war ended and the enlightened races lost. Altana didn't like that (which probably makes sense with the truth of the sundering and shit) so she just invented a fantasy future where the war "ended" and we won and that's where the game starts, but obviously it's been a cold war for 20 years with fighting and death and shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>In the real/prime/main timeline or whatever, the crystal war ended and the enlightened races lost.
No, the war never ended according to Lady Lilith. They were still fighting the Shadow Lord because she and the other Spitewardens made their own pact with Odin which locked the whole thing in a stalemate because both sides were using the same power. Lilisette also talks about finally making progress on the other side when you go get her trust.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll take your word for it because I haven't played through WotG in 5ever but I thought Lilith was from an other other timeline or something, and that got linked to the Shadowwar when the Atmos stuff linked our timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but I thought Lilith was from an other other timeline or something, and that got linked to the Shadowwar when the Atmos stuff linked our timeline.
She was, yeah. She's from the original timeline. Altana's method of """fixing""" the war was to have Cait Sith summon Atomos and then use his time janitor abilities to enable time travel and meddle in the war. Problem is that Atomos then decided that having both timelines was redundant so he began eating the "failed" one which was still deep in the war.
2 years ago
Anonymous
IIRC it's Lilisette that's from an "other other" timeline, and Lilith that's from the "real" timeline but in the future. So (You) Lilisette, and Lilith are all from 20 years after the start of Wings, but on 3 parallel timelines and all came to try to make your own timeline real or some shit. I get a little confused on Wings time travel shit. Rhapsody and Abyssea made perfect sense but Wings was messy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Correcting myself, Lilisette does not want her future, she came back in time to save her parents, so she's trying to make like a 4th timeline or some shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Correcting myself, Lilisette does not want her future, she came back in time to save her parents, so she's trying to make like a 4th timeline or some shit.
Lilisette is originally from the same as you. Or at least an extremely similar timeline because she remembers the same history of the war and you go back to present Sandy to visit the old lady who made her dad's medicine. But yeah she's trying to make some minor changes and save her dad.
She sundered the Mothercrystal and held his essence in his pieces out of love. She wanted to stay with him and with the world they gave birth to. Instead of one "perfect" death which would take Vana'diel with him she spread his essence across creation which introduced the concept of mortality, trillions of tiny deaths over and over.
Obviously I meant the main squad >Alphi >Estinien >Urianger >Thancred
Those 4 all use job artifact armour. >Alisae >Y'shtola >G'raha
These 3 have unique armour
The Trueblood helm looks like shit, I get why they didn't give it to him. It looks way cooler in its art than it does its model. I hope it's one of the things that gets corrected for 7.0.
Estinien is a bandwagon hopping homosexual who doesn't deserve to be in the main cast and contributes nothing of value
2 years ago
Anonymous
he's a grug brain who understands he's a grug brain. i also ship him with Krile
2 years ago
Anonymous
He contributes more than almost all of the other scions through each expansion. He was a scion in all but name and adventuring with you. He saved your ass twice in SB. Was contracted out by Krile to help put a stop to white rose. He is a good help in Radz-at-Hahn quests. Has more growth than other day one scions. Estinien is great frick off with your shit takes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
he was shoehorned into EW because they got rid of the actual melee Scion and had to fill a slot. he makes a speech about how the reason why he decided to join you all which turns out to be all bullshit because it isn't actually reflected on his character development going forward because there is none. it's extremely moronic how it's the culmination of the entire events of the game so far that he hasn't been around for and has no idea what's happening, why or who anyone is and he just fricking leans his gay homosexual ass against the wall on the other side of the room like an affected moron while people with an actual investment in what's happening ate trying to save the world. its also very fricking cringe how the fact that he fricked a dragon once is somehow pretended to be relevant just because another dragon exists in this story. I hate how he has no insight or ideas about anything going on in 6.1 and 6.2 and just exists to say cringey one liners and comments about how he has no clue what's going on but can kill shit. yes I know, it's why you fricking suck
Estinien blows go have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
>anon has literally a decade of "dragoons are trained to be dragon experts" thrown at him >can't internalized it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Seething Lysegay
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was actually talking about Yda, Lyse of course would have been worse than Estinien
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yda
Rip. Frick Banri
>SGE got 4 limit breaks in a single CC round
Is their LB that fast recharging or was there some bullshit going on?
SGE LB is like 2min bro. All that means is your shit team couldn't kill a job with no CC.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Estinien has been constantly involved in major events since his introduction. Maybe you forgot Stormblood and Shadowbringers but he was busy covering your ass and teaming up with Gaius to prevent the end of the world on the Source's end.
2 years ago
Anonymous
estinien was in 1.0 anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm aware.
2 years ago
Anonymous
he didn't say he wasn't?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd be more upset about Estinien if they kept Yda a cute moron. I don't miss Lyse and consider him an upgrade (and also a cute moron).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Lysegay who never played the game rages at Estinien
Lol, Estinien blows Lyse out of the water on every level.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why is it that male characters always cause some people to sperg out like this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He contributes being cool
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still no version of this art without print artifacts
2 years ago
Anonymous
He contributes far more than Y'shtola or Alisaie do. Imagine having a character with a PhD in mythology, then putting her in a game where one of the primary antagonistic forces are mythical beings conjured into reality, and then having her not say a single fricking word about any of them.
I like him but I felt like he was mainly included to make Heavensward stuff more relevant to EW as the "big finale" since it's not really too relevant to the finals days/ ancients stuff otherwise
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Basically it was just a thought of making a spin-off or something for emet but when presenting the idea a lot of the workers were like 'That's a lot of work' and it seems no one would be able to handle the headache so who knows if something will come or not.
https://youtu.be/IqoV_EF8jAM?t=918
Basically it was just a thought of making a spin-off or something for emet but when presenting the idea a lot of the workers were like 'That's a lot of work' and it seems no one would be able to handle the headache so who knows if something will come or not.
I would prefer playing the ancient world tbh. Imagine being gaint magical people being able to create things and go anywhere you want. It would be very nice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well ancient Emet sucks so no thanks
2 years ago
Anonymous
>well ancient Emet sucks so no thanks
It really is unfortunate that his previous self when younger is a whole 180 from his personality when being the emperor. It feels like he became less charismatic and more of a self-loathing dork that wants to be left alone by everyone in the ancient world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's what makes the transformation into his Emperor self all the better. You see parts of him in both.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the ancient version of him is more of a boring trope and not an interesting character
I mean I know there was only a short amount of time with him but no one told them to write a time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place so I'm not cutting the writers any slack
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but no one told them to write a time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place
Yoshida almost certainly did to cash in on the fanservice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>type in say 'please Emet-Selch'
This made me wanna throw my controller. The entire trip back in time to Elpis was fanservice as heck. I do appreciate seeing him again, but not like how he was just a borning 'tsundere'
2 years ago
Anonymous
>time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place
It makes me wonder what else was on the drawing board when they decided they wanted to make Zodiark the level 82 trial. Anons reading, how would you have resolved EW/the plot point involving the fall of the Ancients?
I'd wish they'd go more into what they DIDN'T do for their story stuff. I just like to read about the process.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would have done everything almost the same but Elpis would be a lengthy solo instance in which you use the Echo on Elidibus to get a 1.0 style Echo sequence where you can walk around and interact with the memories but not actually change the past. Not sure where to put the extra zone, maybe the industrial sector of Garlemald they mention in the role quests.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the tradition of FF4 I would let the big bad show up in the end almost unexplained. My ideal EW would be way more about you and Zenos and then at the end there's just a big bird face.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They should've just gone all the way with the Gurren Laggan tribute the entire expansion basically already was and, instead of having a fricking bird e-girl be the final villain, instead, have some being(s) like the Antispirals who were caushing the destruction of the Ancient world an other worlds for some higher purpose.
THAT would've been kino.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The point of Endwalker was that the despair was coming from inside the house, internally. External threats are always easy to rally against and take down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The final fight is us and the scions manifesting a the bigget and most powerful primal ever seen made out of a universe's worth of aether to pilot together to fight the big bad.
KINO KINO KINO KINO
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no Elpis time travel segment >the noise the Ancients heard was actually the Planet itself screaming in pain >the Final Days wasn't caused by anything, it was just the Planet going through its natural death throes >Zodiark, and later Hydaelyn, put the planet on life support >Fandaniel the Protector, Keeper of Order, wants to destroy both Hydaelyn and Zodiark to let nature take its proper course and let the Planet die >Zenos possesses Hydaelyn >WoL takes up the mantle of Zodiark the savior god >they both fight but eventually team up against the final boss using the combined power of both gods >final boss is some original equivalent of Necron
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would genuinely change nothing besides maybe introduce Meteion a little earlier or make her status as an *avatar* of destruction a little bit more obvious. I feel Meteion exists perfectly already as an Ancient-created harbinger of their own despair and a subconscious plea for help, and that The Plenty does a good job of showing that the Ancients were going to end up killing themselves one way or another. I also feel that Amon highlighting that the Allagan Empire was going through very similar ennui to The Plenty and The Ancients by hitting their "peak" was an excellent touch, and that adding a galvanizing element through resurrection of Xande and a hard shift into imperialism was an excellent echo or "retort" of Hermes's soul across lifetimes; if he had a second chance, if he'd done something differently in his despairing plea for help, he would have arguably done the same thing in a different direction, hoped that the grass was greener on the other side ("are aliens doing better?" vs. "it was better at the start of the empire").
I feel Elpis was also very necessary to firmly establish that, no, Amaurot and the Ancients did not have utopia. Utopia is inherently unattainable. Things were not better; Warrior of Light is still the mightiest warrior the world has ever known, we have Pandaemonium to point to that; even with Ancients being demigods, they still entreat the help and counsel of sundered life, and grumblingly concede that the sundered have gone in directions their own society could not have ever gone, through mental limitations and strangled patterns of thinking (like the sharks, one guy made a shark so now everybody has to make a shark), or simply because they're too powerful (dense).
I love the stress the story puts upon humankind needing a struggle or else they just ball up and die. So Venat's idea was to make living a struggle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was hoping for a marker from dead space.
I dont really like that even the final days were just another ancients creation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The whole game is him trying to do his work but Azem keeps summoning him to fix their problems and Hythlodaeus keeps coming to bug him. Or it is just his rise to the seat of Emet-Selch and all the adventures he went on with Azem and Hyth before he got there.
It's rough but doable with PF. Still aren't a lot of parties up for it last I checked though, be prepared to sit in town and craft while your party fills. Last week it took like 2 full days to get a fresh prog together when I tried.
which came first, Ultima from the Heart of Sabik the Allagans were fricking around with, or Ultima the High Seraph that basically invaded the planet at some point?
>hermes indirectly causes a great number of apocalypses across the universe and helps subvert the apocalypse taking place on his own planet >venat causes one apocalypse that doesn't actually kill anyone, it splits them into 13 copies + one original; she splits herself too >emet-selch assists in causing seven apocalypses that kills everyone on each planet and forcibly remerges them into the original's lifestream
emet is the biggest douchebag of the bunch
Rich was always a grifter. WOTLK being WoWs biggest expansion has some hype behind it so he is going to milk it for all that its worth.
Asmongold is doing the same and already admitted that he will quit sooner rather than later.
>WoW gets updated >"YOOO BOYS ITS FINALLY TIME - WOW WILL BE FUN AGAIN" >its shit >YOOO WHAT THE FRICK BLIZZARD FRICK THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME I WILL JUST PLAY SOMETHING ELSE" >looks up currently popular game and milks it for content
Repeat ad infinitum
The game balance seems weird as hell. Given time so that you can gear up above min ilvl, almost anything's viable then, but without it I don't even know why they say the 4th slot is "flexible dps" when we all know it needs to be "2nd melee" or at worst a competent BLM.
i tried, anon, but my brain is too moronic to do mechanics and press buttons at the same time, plus its hard for me to tell when its my fault or when its the PF learning party's fault. i was able to clear p1s and p2s late last tier but those were meme fights and p3s filtered me
id probably have an easier if i bit the bullet and switched to dps but i really like healing
Sell me on a non-MNK melee DPS or non-WHM Healer to try out next tier of savage raids.
I've been a DRK for 1-4, BLM for 5-8, hadn't done any savage raids before then. Half my static don't swap jobs, the other half (myself included) have everything capped even if we've never used it outside of roulettes.
>RDM, BRD, and WHM on the enemy party >Literally get told to stop playing the game for a good 20 seconds and die
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>what if we gave Warrior an AoE stun that's as spammable as the purify that doesn't work right anyway and let them partner up with other jobs that can CC lol
The flavor and soul of the new job actions in 6.1 was so fun it was easy to overlook the problems but the devs clearly don't know what they're doing and the shiny factor has fallen off
WAR is balanced in PvP by lacking an invuln and their only serious damage source requires you to pop LB first. A WAR can't kill shit in neutral, they're literally just there to be an irritating distraction.
>The WAR got you killed with strong crowd control options in a mode full of them, but it didn't deal the killing blow so that's balanced >It has enough self healing to regularly hit higher healing numbers than healer jobs but it never gets a full immune to stuff like Zantetsuken so it's not even that tanky
Okay, but the conversation isn't even about balance. It's about them being irritating as frick which they surely are
I'd say Au Ra players have hands down the worst fashion sense of anyone but Hrothgar players exist, and 99 percent of them dress like total homosexuals, whereas I see a handful of Au Ra that don't look moronic every time I log in
>mfw I stand right in front of the enemy team's spawn, spamming jump to get their attention, just to waste that last 30 seconds they have as I throw on shield until it times out, then just mash Recuperate while LoS breaking behind walls as they desperately try to finish me off regardless of if they succeed
Charges reasonably fast, faster when they push more buttons. Stop them from shooting so many laser next time. Or actually end the match instead of spending 10 minutes in overtime
>No good rewards >Poor balancing >Terrible maps >Shit servers
Can't believe these frickers didn't add anything to the wolf collar and crystal shop for 6.2
Ranked was full of cheaters and frustration for no reward. Casual had decent rewards for time invested at first but the first battlepass lasted way too long so people ran out of rewards and fell out of the habit of play. 2nd battlepass doesn't have particularly interesting items and the trophy crystal shop didn't really update so there's not a lot of reason to get back into it if you're already out.
Had scripts running to detect certain actions and then respond. Most commonly, WHMs who would instantly turn anyone who LB'd into a little pig so they wasted the meter.
I was accused of cheating and got reported by the PvP discord trannies for "scripting" as WHM because I hit LB interrupts like once every 10 matches.
While cheaters exist, the issue is way overblown and people just need to get good. SAM LBs for example are extremely easy to read, and even though the timing is very precise it's not out of the question getting relatively consistent at stopping them.
>Want to start the game >need to put 100+ hours in Realm Reborn >When I still have a real life
Is it basically impossible to start FFXIV now if you are not a neet?
>need to put 100+ hours in Realm Reborn
Who the frick told you this? I guess at a couple points it can feel like this but with the changes they've made over the years up to and including the current major patch, you can knock it out in like 40
the worst part about the cheating is you can't even report them because they will always have the benefit of the doubt.
half the jobs are literally unplayable right now because the homosexuals cheating just instantly counter you.
don't even remind me of that era where white mages were getting infinite cure 2 casts.
Maybe once he's wormed away into Dissidia or post-Dissidia and he's way the frick stronger than he was at the start of the game. Jack's died a lot of times and gotten stronger a lot of times. It won't be Jack that BTFOs an XIV character, it'll be Garland.
reminder that CHAOS is getting a gilgamesh expansion right around when 6.25 will occur, and gilgamesh mentioned that he was busy off fighting someone in the rift, with the next hildibrand thing being 6.25
I'm not intimidated by them. I'm just an ex-Hrothgar who got a fantasia after dealing with the annoyingly clingy Hrothgar community plus their Roe arbiters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Theyre just big gay baragay cats, they cant be that bad right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Hrothgar community are what you get if you combine the worst aspects of every other race . Fortunately most Hrothgar only deal with other Hrothgar, Roe and sometimes catboys and don't even process other players.
2 years ago
Anonymous
imagine what bozja could have been if it wasn't hrothgar and femroe
i mean it'd still be a blasted out garlean butthole story wise, but it'd be slightly less of a joke
Hrothgar are nothing but visual pollution. They lessen the enjoyment for everyone whenever the game has to waste resources rendering them. Hrothgar players are the lowest of the low, subhuman, wastrels, low lives, the repugnant detritus of Final Fantasy XIV. Your kind is nothing but a joke, it is clear that some unlucky homosexual at Creative Business Unit 3 pulled some kind of underhanded trickery to get his pathetic fetish race put into the game. The normal developers treat the race like the joke they are, and try to have them in the story as little as possible. Hrothgar players should all kill themselves.
Had scripts running to detect certain actions and then respond. Most commonly, WHMs who would instantly turn anyone who LB'd into a little pig so they wasted the meter.
Auto-LB, auto-target on low HP, auto-guard, auto-purify, auto-imp on someone about to LB (thus wasting it)
There's a lot of cheats for PVP
To add to this, NINs were also running scripts where they'd auto LB the millisecond anyone went below 50%
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are PC Black folk like this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
SE doesn't enforce the rules, so cheaters run rampant. It's been happening for years and is a major factor on why PVP will never be a thing long term.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It has nothing to do with PC. The game has no cheat detection, bots and cheaters run rampant and are in literally every aspect of the game, in mass. Modding is literally the lifeblood of this game.
The normal joe dont see it because they are stuck doing MSQ/roulette.
>Plunge into Salted Earth then Guard to finally start the fricking match >WHM and WAR blow their stuns on me >Look at my team >My SCH died during a 4vs2
I hate people
That's gay, I wanted to be the guy with the gadgets. Frick the whole John Woo fricked The Matrix and gave the baby stimulants vibe. Give me multiple turrets. Give me Gauss Barrel.
15 is a bad, boring game that is most typically at odds with itself but I really can't think of a character I dislike, it did that fairly well. The worst I can say is that some were in the game for such a small period of time that they didn't have a chance to develop beyond one gimmick, but since they're not there very much it's not much of a problem either.
well don't worry your endless crying over a pointless button wasn't in vain, they've now put off touching dragoon's button bloat (and even reverting some small improvements to it) for 7.0
It was literally just a bunch of trailers we've already seen and mobile game ads. I was at least expecting to see how Blue Mage will play in the new SoP DLC
I honestly like having these threads, it's the only place to actually talk about the game. xivg isn't really meant for discussion and seemingly only for avatar-posting and porn posting.
I honestly like having these threads, it's the only place to actually talk about the game. xivg isn't really meant for discussion and seemingly only for avatar-posting and porn posting.
I'm just happy Barry doesn't bother shitting up XIV threads on Ganker even though he constantly shits on the game and XVI in his own containment threads.
Ganker XIV threads are the only place on Ganker where you can have any actual discussion of anything FF at all.
>HE doesn't know that tanks should be judged by rdps but adps
sorry, come back in 6.3 when you get reworked into a job that lines up with 2 minute burst like the other 3 tanks and then we can have this dick measuring content proper. I play drk and pld btw
He was able to build and run Garlemald through sheer Charisma. The same Charisma that has convinced the playerbase that his genocide was justified. We are the Garleans. When Garlemald was destroyed it was a message from Yoshi P. Emet-Selch fans aren't welcome. Yoshi P is a huge venat simp.
anyone else tired of the fricking dps balance discussion?
Yes you should try your best and if you're sucking you should get better. All the jobs change all the time, does the spot they're in now really matter that much?
Someone's always gotta be the ugliest supermodel so the fight over last place or first is dumb, but XIV has legitimate balance problems right now which is extra frustrating when the sterilization and samification of so many jobs was done in the name of unparalleled balance and every composition being viable.
>XIV has legitimate balance problems right now >right now
dps disparity has always been like this every single raid tier, except this time it matters because they made a fight with an overtuned DPS check and the disparity is now affecting classes that are actually popular (namely warrior mains getting upset).
In fairness, XIV "had" a balance problem. 4 weeks of tomes and 3 weeks of loot rolls and every comp can clear now. What problem it really has, I don't know the word for. They literally said "The ranged tax is real but since we took away downtime there's not a need for it so we're gonna adjust and even rework PLD, but also not touch the job that is paying the heaviest ranged tax because lmao" It just gives the impression that the devs aren't even fully aware of their own product.
Everything in the game that's still gonna matter even after the next expansion is out.
Like I cna't think of anything I care about less than if we went back in time to read threads about the balance of any expansion. If it really sucks that bad then harass yoshi, start a private server or shut the frick up and stop playing because it's literally people repeating the same points over and over about how frustrated they are over something they can't change.
Dungeons, raids, trials, the story, side content, the community, hopes, fears
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree islands are total dogshit? I dread doing this chore now when I log in. As soon as I get the last two mounts I'm out.
Like the island, it fricking sucks, I hate it I don't understand people that like it.
>Dungeons, raids, trials, side content, the community, hopes, fears >Mattering after an expansion
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not all of that always matters but it still matters because they're things you can talk about with newer players and they'll at least understand you and be able to talk to you about that stuff.
If you talk about the balance of tanks in 6.2 by the time 7.0, they'll either be like "Oh so things haven't changed" or like "Oh things have changed."
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does it? The majority of that shit becomes irrelevant and serves no purpose besides glamour runs by the time the next expansion is out.
>The world's top MCH did as much damage as a MNK in the bottom 8% >Even if both are played optimally the difference is about a million damage over the course of a fight >Just about high scores though
yea, having everything be 100% identical is lame as shit and it only matters to raidgays anyway
look at all the unique stuff they added to pvp that people love
Not doing enough damage causes you to fricking lose the fight and kill the whole party. The concept of "sufficient" damage is very relevant especially since you're probably not going to be playing with the world's top MCH
You can easily clear all content as a MCH though, as long as you are just semi competent to not botch rotations. I agree they need a potency buff as they don't even bring utility to the table and are entirely selfish, but you aren't locked out of anything. The only ones who cares about doing stuff as fast as possible are the min-max trannies that ruins every game they touch.
>The world's top MCH did as much damage as a MNK in the bottom 8%
both cleared the fight, the only metric that matters >b-but I had to work harder then the other guy
people are constantly saying this game is being made easier and easier but now that those same people need to work hard to pass damage checks because they're too impatient to just get gear and come back in a few weeks suddenly working hard is a problem. if I was square I'd C&D fflogs
The really tight DPS check on P8s really exposed the problem with games homogeneous class design + every one is DPS approach. Classes being "punished" for having utility that isn't damage and party damage buffs and/or not fitting super well with the 2 min burst window is really stupid design
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree islands are total dogshit? I dread doing this chore now when I log in. As soon as I get the last two mounts I'm out.
>play femlala >GigaStacy the Viera in her button down, jean shorts, and glasses starts /tell me creepy things
How do I contact the LimLom police? I'm getting groomed.
Yes the content in your video game matters when people are constantly comparing and talking about the content in your video game.
Does the story of shadowbringers not matter because you've done it already? would you tell someone new to the game to just skip it and get straight to endwalker so they can do savages?
People talk about their roulette shit all the time when something goes wrong and people talk about eureka/bozja shit as they're doing it. As more people get in to the game those topics come up.
also the zodiark trance drama shit is basically everyone talking about content that ended on the release of endwalker, which was fricking november 2021.
And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes, which is why we're lucky if we get one post about it a thread. And no one talks about Eureka or Bozja, new players just ask what others think, then everyone tells them it's good if you like grindy shit.
Actual discussion about Eureka/Bozja is rare, it's either new players asking for opinions or experienced players lamenting about them, mainly Bozja's story
>And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes
It goes wrong plenty, it's just easy enough to salvage the vast majority of the time do it's not worth the energy to complain about.
Exactly. It's almost always so unremarkable and boring that even when something does go wrong it's usually minor, like a tank dying during a w2w or someone fricking up a mechanic. Nothing interest to discuss at all
>And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes
It goes wrong plenty, it's just easy enough to salvage the vast majority of the time do it's not worth the energy to complain about.
Actual discussion about Eureka/Bozja is rare, it's either new players asking for opinions or experienced players lamenting about them, mainly Bozja's story
[...]
Exactly. It's almost always so unremarkable and boring that even when something does go wrong it's usually minor, like a tank dying during a w2w or someone fricking up a mechanic. Nothing interest to discuss at all
While that's true, was it equally worth the energy to complain about the balance of 5.2 shadowbringers looking back?
ONSLAUGHT POTENCY WENT FROM 1000 TO 1200, OMG.
That's where you guys are now and you don't even realize, that's all I'm saying
oh boy this thread again
seriously
frick off to >>>/vg/
this thread gets repeated over and over again here for sure, but it's still worlds better than the abortion that is /xivg/
These threads will continue to happen until the mods cleans up /xivg/ (they won't)
The cleaning up of any thread on /vg/ will just make the rest of the site worse. It's a containment board for a reason.
Not really. The Genshin Impact /vg/ thread is policed moderately so it's like 80% on topic posting.
/xivg/ is literally 95% gossip drama shit and coomspam so talking about the game is pretty much impossible.
I remember one time I went there to say "I think this is how this ability should be changed for balance purposes" and they straight up said "Well that's not how it is and I have no intention of discussing hypotheticals" and then went back to posting porn
You think that's bad? I once asked "Hey guys. I made some mouseover macros for my healer but I broke the input queue somehow. Is there a way to fix this?"
All the answers I got where "go back to WoW"
>/wowg/ talks about the game-that-must-not-be-named more than /xivg/ does
/wowg/ deserves it, wowgays are the most repulsive cretins on the planet
I don't want to interact with those people because they make it clear they don't want to talk about the game. Keep it to /vg/, that board fricking sucks, if I want to talk about games I'll just hope there's an interesting thread on Ganker instead.
but these threads are 95% people having spergfights over emet/zodiark/hydaelyn/meteion/the sundering so talking about the game is still pretty much impossible. i'll grant you that it's better than whatever the frick goes on in /xivg/ but it's still exhausting wading through the exact same fricking debate about morality for the 500th time
Nobody in /xivg/ actually plays the game outside of ERPing in Limsa on the free trial account. A number of them have admitted to not even starting Stormblood despite "playing" the game for years.
They are the same people who will talk so much shit for "only" a purple parse on current content too.
mate Ganker's been the containment board for years
have you seen the state of it? /vg/ is far from a monument on a hill but it actually talks about games more often than Ganker does
No, /vg/ talks about irrelevant shit while posting fanart of a given video game. Totally different thing.
better than it becoming a third /misc/
so what Ganker is on a good day, then?
>/xivg/
>talking about the game
Final Fantasy 14 is dogshit
>Failed to get first post
Do you lurk Ganker 24/7 to get first post in every XIV thread just to say it's dogshit? And you still failed anyway LMFAO
You mean SHE murdered millions when she Sundered everyone aka committed genocide.
>multiplies life by 14
>gets accused of genocide
Venat haters are deranged.
This. After having a child you can get away with killing one person without it being murder.
All the life she made then died more than 100 times faster than what they were split from.
May as well have poisoned them.
Doesn't matter, despair-chicken would have annihilated them. Zodiark was a bandaid and nothing more.
Zodiark was full on necessary for thousands of years even for the sundered people, else they'd have been wiped out before they even got to Allagans.
Yes, a necessary yet ultimately temporary measure, a bandaid
No shit. The Ancients didn't have a fricking clue what was happening.
The only temporary part of it is that it fricked over Endsinger so much she had to resort to heat death instead. It does not seem temporary to me as Zodiark is still doing fine until we Fandaniel baits us into killing him.
>It does not seem temporary to me as Zodiark is still doing fine until we Fandaniel baits us into killing him.
I'd argue that while it would take the ascians a very long time to get all the rejoinings minus the 13th under their belt, 13/14 doesn't seem like enough aether diffusion to protect the Source from Meteion's autism beams.
But with Zodiark just chilling on the moon, you don't even need to address the problem out in space.
And the problem in space mostly comes down to convincing a depressed bird that other people and it have hope until it stops fighting.
All in all a pretty simple problem with a lot of solutions or indefinite suspensions of any issues.
Zodiark was actually starting to fail as seen in the DNC questline. Meteion was still able to get through to people in times of great despair.
Those were just void creatures as they did not appear how we know Endsinger interacted with the sundered.
This is shitty writing
>villain and hero kill for different reasons
>morons can't comprehend it and resort to shit flinging
i comprehend that emet selch was right, and venat was right, yet emet selch tried to take away everything i had for everything he lost.
Emet enjoyers are basically reparations supporters. "M-muh ancestral lands/status pls gibs"
i enjoy emet and i acknowledge that he was ultimately in the wrong no matter how badly i wished to help him achieve his dream
No, they're just women
Ha! Nice! 😉 Eat shit, ladies.
Nah they just get sappy over his drama. Nobody cared when Varis said the empire is rightfully reclaiming their clay
Emet simps only care about his personality and looks. Everything else does not matter.
I'm a sucker for haughty himbos
>Emet
>Himbo
Anon Emet isn't stupid, he was just a depressed sassy grampa at most.
because varis is a braindead moron in a long line of braindead morons who thinks he can one up ascians and get away with it
I suppose thordan technically got away with it but then shit his pants when he saw us
The only thing wrong with Varis's plan was that he needed a bunker for everyone to survive the Calamities. The moon would have worked.
As
said it's literally just his personality and looks. Everything he did was wrong. Still love the guy, but he was wrong. Same goes for Zenos lovers, except his personality is just literal fight autism and he happen to be good looking. If both these guys looked ugly as sin, I beat you nobody would like them as much.
the designer intentionally made him ugly, people like him because he was right and then conditioned themselves into liking his design
>the designer intentionally made him ugly
???
>Ugly
Man if this is what Japanese consider ugly, I want to see what they consider handsome then
>I want to see what they consider handsome then
But you already have an example of what they consider handsome.
>Hythlo
>handsome
Had it not been his voice actor, I would have thought he was a girl. My goodness Japanese beauty standards must be brutal on dudes.
>My goodness Japanese beauty standards must be brutal on dudes.
have you seen Japanese dudes, they're cute
>the designer intentionally made him ugly
Got a citation for that anon?
Yoshida said that the chief inspiration for his design is fricking Jack Sparrow
I'd still grin like a moron during the final fight with Zenos if he looked like pic related. But yeah, not as many gamer girls would schlick to the thought of getting choked by him.
His last few lines as he was dying is what saved his character for me. Zenos came off as just an annoying pest that kept getting in the way, but towards the end dude just wanted acceptance for the monster he was created to be.
the story this guy is from made me laugh so hard.
"this here's jim, he's been really gettin his shit together lately!"
"oh no!"
role quests were pure shit. holy frick i hope these Black folk arent the future writers.
Role quests are directly inferior to job quests. I cant think of any of them I liked better than a job questline except for the Paladin quests because those are infamously bad
The ShB role quests were all solid. Not thrilling, but nice. The EW ones sucked so much ass I can only assumed they were decoupled from the MSQ out of shame
the pirate one foreshadows a lot of future shit. the garlean one was once again pure trash except for nero
I can only hope at this point they kept up with rolequests because WoL fricking off to go hang out with Alka-Zolka, Curious Gorge, or X'ruhn Tia while the apocalypse is happening is a bit of whiplash.
I do hope we go back to them next expac, I enjoy actually having specific job quests.
The crafter and gatherer ones being clumped up is still unforgivable, but at least the fisher one wasn't as awful as ShB this time
So did Vanet sunder the entire universe or just the planet only? Like, what happens if you're in the 4th shard and fly in a space ship into outer space? Would you be able to go to the same moon as on The Source? Would somebody in the Abyss be able to fly to Ultima Thule?
We do know that stars exist on other shards because when you look into the night sky in Shadowbringers zones you can see stars
>So did Vanet sunder the entire universe or just the planet only?
It was just the planet and the immediate surrounding space. Each shard exists in it's own pocket dimension with just a moon (which contained a piece of Zodiark) and a sun, some stars and that's it.
Which begs the question of how the Ark from Nier (which takes place in post-human extinction earth in the year 12000 AD) somehow made it to the First. But don't think about that.
DrakeNier has always featured interdimensional travel.
>It was just the planet and the immediate surrounding space. Each shard exists in it's own pocket dimension with just a moon (which contained a piece of Zodiark) and a sun, some stars and that's it.
Honestly, it's probably easiest to just think of it that way since it's close to how we're used to thinking about real world space and heavenly bodies, but at every turn it seems like FFXIV likes to mystify its own world's physical structure and make it that little bit vague-r. The Aetherial Rift is not totally analogous to real-world outer space, but the exact ways in which it differs are nebulous (heh).
The Rift isn't space, it's an in-between dimension that touches every FF world. The Sea of Stars is space. You have to move through the Rift to access the other shards because they're separated by dimensional walls, not by physical space.
So then, why did Omega and Middy go to the trouble of traversing the Rift rather than "the Sea of Stars" if it wasn't strictly necessary for interplanetary travel?
From what I remember they dipped in and out of both.
Yeah, just Hydaelyn, when you think about it, it's why the elder dragons and midgardsormir are so fricking strong: they're unsundered beings. Later dragon generations are probably weaker because they had to rely on Hydaelyn's aether. And I'm not certain of it, but with it being mentioned dragons don't actually have biological sexes, it makes me suspect dragons reproduce basically via some innate-but-simplified creation magic.
you do understand that all your assertions are mentioned in various lore books and in game
I don't know if sundered affects strength, ( despite what emet says about it dividing everything) the 0 times rejoined Warriors of Darkness and Ran'jit gave 7 times rejoined Scions trouble
how much did he pay for that week 1 clear?
All paid in exposure.
He won, Rin cleared week 3 after nerfs.
Nothing, melee dps have free entry
damn Emet looks like THAT?
>he looks like this in ShB
>he filters bioholes
>they never start gushing over him nonstop
>SE doesn't seen the fanservice potential so Elpis time travel never happens
>EW is saved
What could have been...
So glad salty incels don't have a say in society anymore.
YWNBAW DILATE SEETHE COPE KYS
>don't have a say in society anymore
only the "elites" do
TWO
MORE
WEEKS
>they believe in "Democracy"
how innocent, you don't have a say, they will nod and proceed to do whatever profits them
Euphoric
I read it in his voice.
meds
>thinking bioholes aren't into monsterfricking
this frickin guy lmao
>Get a good Barb EX party for once
>Dead before even going back to the final long hair phase
Thinking about all the god awful groups i've been before in comparison makes me want to fricking scream.
How? She's piss easy.
I could only play 2 weeks after the patch dropped and by then i was stuck in the bottom of the barrel of PF with practice and clear parties. Hell even the farm parties now are still mostly shit.
Oh boy, you'll not have fun with Carbuncle then.
>Scream
SAY GOOD NIGHT
SILVER LIIIIINE
>Been slacking off on Sephirot the past few days.
>All the competent people are probably done for the week and all that's left will be the shitters that can't bait Yesod.
frick
Are you me
>watching the healers die by standing in the same place they died three times now
she killed millions (of gallons of cum)
sexy moron
Built for hypnosis.
I want to play S&M with her
She pretended to be moronic for five years.
>pretended
she's much, much stupider as lyse than she ever was as yda
Only because she's now being held to the same standards as a normal person and not a special ed kid.
>Yda, an actual illiterate, got a PhD within 5 years of hanging out in Sharlayan
>Lyse who grew up there for 20 years never did shit
holy shit more!
>>>/vg/
He filtered billions
LOOK AT HIS NECK
>caused the Final Days in two different lifetimes
>he is the root cause for every single bad thing that happens in the game
Name a character with a higher kill count than Hermes.
>evolved Etheirys to a state where they became immune to the ennui that killed every other world and also reseeded life in the suicide universe
Hermes won.
he killed dozens
He's a jojo villain I love him so much
No not the hecking animal people!
How's DRK?
WAR but with damage oGCDs instead of survivability oGCDs, and a spammable personal shield.
Probably still the highest damage due to its innate synergy with 2min burst.
Extremely busy for like 20s or so every 2min. Otherwise, sleep rotation.
Also highest mitigation of all tanks.
Venat did worse but Hades is the bad guy.
Don't forget Venat cursed every Garlean, even the children, to never be able to manipulate Aether. And that is behind 12,000 years of forced mortality and indifferent rule over all life on the planet.
There's zero reason to believe Venat had anything to do with the Garleans but a good amount of evidence that Hades did.
ff14 fricking RUINED her design
not relatable enough, not everyone is a bug fricking degen like you
>Venat did worse
LOOK OUT ANONS we got a Zodiark Trancer in the flesh here.
Not that anon but considering she knew what Emet was going to and him doing that was part of her plan you could make the argument. No one looks good though coming out of the sundering honestly.
this good is so heckin' cute
hood even
I fricking love lalafell
I like cute ones yeah
More importantly he murdered not millions, not even billions, he killed worlds an unquantifiable number, but he WAS RIGHT
>right about what
EVERYTHING!
I canceled my sub. Stormblood legit filtered me. It all felt like a filler season of a long running anime. I legit burst out laughing when I reached Kugane and my character had to learn the not-Japan bowing and for some reason I couldn't stop thinking about that stupid Kingdom Hearts meme with Mikey wearing some emo trench coat.
It's a shame. I loved Heavensward and I want to continue the story but even A Real Reborn had more going for it than this disjointed slog. My main job quests (WAR) is basically playing moron daycare. Couldn't think of anything better?
Here's a tip. Skip every cutscene without Zenos in it, he's basically the only thing from Stormblood that matters at all after the expansion. Post patch stuff is decent though.
Cringe, Gosetsu is the best character in Stormblood and one of the best in the whole game.
Neither of these characters matter after Stormblood.
So?
Read the reply chain you nincompoop
I did read it. So what? You think the only stuff that matters in a story is what happens at the end?
homie wasn't enjoying the expansion, so I told him what to skip. Read you dumb gay
Only playing the Zenos scenes will put them off even more though.
Zenos is the only thing from Stormblood that matters after the expansion. I assumed the guy still wants to have a general idea of the overarching plot, which why I told him to only watch cutscenes with Zenos in it
It means that I can skip Gosetsu's voice actor and that one-note b***h every time they appear.
>he doesn't know
nah
He probably murdered more than that.
Trillions, you mean
He unironically killed more people than Venat ever did in helping with the calamity nonsense
He is also the one who pretty much raised civilization as a whole with all his empire building which allows the current world they live in to exist.
Then he's especially in the wrong.
>created Allag and Garlemald
He truly is scum of the earth
He probably created a bunch more too on other worlds. He probably did something in the war if the magi as well since he is the one known for being a mage out of the three.
Other than that he was napping and filling in as Azem.
They were the chaos factor needed for the rejoining. To rejoin the first they needed a hero to fight off and win against evil this making the first able to rejoin with the source. Allag for darkness and the 13th(but they goofed) and garlemald for light and for for the 1st.
even if he did they were probably killed off by emo bird girl.
>Emet breeds with women to create a whole new race
Garlean race when bros?
Never since his descendants are all dead
Aren't there still some survivers left? Not fully descendant from Emet, but still some Garleans have lived so possibility in them reproducing and living peaceful lives.
Emet isn't the patriarch of the Garlean race, just the Galvus family, and even then it's debatable since he picked Solus and bodyjacked the guy in order to create the Garlean Empire
No
Gaius killed all the stupidly ambitious ones, and the civil war killed all the ones that remained
Well dang, was hoping I could get to play as a giant race people with magic body swaping powers
The body swapping is an Echo thing, not a Galvus thing.
Don't worry, at one point we're gonna have 23/14 Ancient WoL because Azem wanted to try it out
>not force summoning Emet back and making him transform into a woman so you can breed a new super race with them
YES YES YES
>Never since his descendants are all dead
Fujo writing is going to bring back Zenos. Just you wait anon.
I was thinking with the zenos/zemus and zero/zeromus there will be soemthing sneaky coming tbh They have the similar dynamics...also when we take out golbez she'll be the strongest in the void with all that aether we are giving her and those crystals...sussy. I do forget zeromus was the final fight in ff4
You realize Emet's children were not his biological children but Solus's (the dude who he was possessing the entire time he rule dover Garlemald)? There's even a short story which makes a point that Varis and co are his "body's" children not his own. Emet didn't have a biological body of his own after he became an Ascian.
His soul still passed on certain traits which is why his descendants are so massive. It's not purely genetic.
You mean SHE killed millions
Gave us FFT kino so she did nothing wrong.
You mean SHE killed millions
Without the sundering of Vana'diel, Promathia's incoming death would have deleted the entire world from existence. All the previously-divine Zilart were gonna die anyway.
I was thinking of when the shadow lord was gonna win the war but she didn't like that so she just invented an alternate timeline where he lost.
Remember, Abyssea is a second failed timeline.
Didn't she technically save lives in that case because she made sure the war actually ended instead of being in a stalemate for another 20 years?
You got it backwards. In the real/prime/main timeline or whatever, the crystal war ended and the enlightened races lost. Altana didn't like that (which probably makes sense with the truth of the sundering and shit) so she just invented a fantasy future where the war "ended" and we won and that's where the game starts, but obviously it's been a cold war for 20 years with fighting and death and shit.
>In the real/prime/main timeline or whatever, the crystal war ended and the enlightened races lost.
No, the war never ended according to Lady Lilith. They were still fighting the Shadow Lord because she and the other Spitewardens made their own pact with Odin which locked the whole thing in a stalemate because both sides were using the same power. Lilisette also talks about finally making progress on the other side when you go get her trust.
I'll take your word for it because I haven't played through WotG in 5ever but I thought Lilith was from an other other timeline or something, and that got linked to the Shadowwar when the Atmos stuff linked our timeline.
>but I thought Lilith was from an other other timeline or something, and that got linked to the Shadowwar when the Atmos stuff linked our timeline.
She was, yeah. She's from the original timeline. Altana's method of """fixing""" the war was to have Cait Sith summon Atomos and then use his time janitor abilities to enable time travel and meddle in the war. Problem is that Atomos then decided that having both timelines was redundant so he began eating the "failed" one which was still deep in the war.
IIRC it's Lilisette that's from an "other other" timeline, and Lilith that's from the "real" timeline but in the future. So (You) Lilisette, and Lilith are all from 20 years after the start of Wings, but on 3 parallel timelines and all came to try to make your own timeline real or some shit. I get a little confused on Wings time travel shit. Rhapsody and Abyssea made perfect sense but Wings was messy
Correcting myself, Lilisette does not want her future, she came back in time to save her parents, so she's trying to make like a 4th timeline or some shit.
Lilisette is originally from the same as you. Or at least an extremely similar timeline because she remembers the same history of the war and you go back to present Sandy to visit the old lady who made her dad's medicine. But yeah she's trying to make some minor changes and save her dad.
I thought she revived Promathia for love(?)
It's a bit of both.
She sundered the Mothercrystal and held his essence in his pieces out of love. She wanted to stay with him and with the world they gave birth to. Instead of one "perfect" death which would take Vana'diel with him she spread his essence across creation which introduced the concept of mortality, trillions of tiny deaths over and over.
These both made me laugh hard, thank you anons
FF14 really do be about a depressed chicken and girl that sacrificed herself to turn into a rock so the chicken stops making people sad
>come back to game
>first roulette as tank pharos
>first roulette as healer bardam
H-haha
At least they're easier now
For Pharos Sirius, you just have to remind your moron DPS to burn the adds down instead of mindlessly hacking away at the boss.
Uh Zodiark Trancers.....are you guys okay?
>I'm undergoing treatment for depression due to the deaths of the Ancients in Endwalker
Haven't gotten to her yet but those head wings look extremely non-functional.
they are, it's effectively just mad science for shits and giggles
That's too bad. It'd be funny if she flew around by the head with those
It's just decoration
>melee heavy armor classes can only be tanks
Uhh?
>DEVOUR HIS CUM, VRTRA
What did Estinien mean by this?
Honestly, it's really fricking lame how most of the Scions just use job artifact armour now
Agreed. Estinien's armor has a unique history but they couldn't even give him a special set of gear.
He can pop the eye in and out of Varshahn.
>3/9 active members
>most
>3/11 if you count Tataru and Gmilfcat
???
Obviously I meant the main squad
>Alphi
>Estinien
>Urianger
>Thancred
Those 4 all use job artifact armour.
>Alisae
>Y'shtola
>G'raha
These 3 have unique armour
>Vrtra has 2 eyes in the trailer
drg used to share armor with pld and war back in ARR
most drg armor nowadays looks similar to the tank one, only difference being the color and some minor details, see the set from the new dungeon
I hate how Estinien's spear doesn't match his armor.
His spear can't be replaced, as it contains whatever remains of Nidhogg's essence.
Okay but can't he at least dye it so it matches?
Ask King Arthur to slap some acrylic on the excalibur.
Can't he just glam over it with the matching lvl 70 drg weapon?
estinien was cooler when he still wore his helmet
turned into another generic white haired elf scion
The Trueblood helm looks like shit, I get why they didn't give it to him. It looks way cooler in its art than it does its model. I hope it's one of the things that gets corrected for 7.0.
They should have made him blonde.
I want a super-long Kain ponytail so fricking bad, I don't care how badly it would clip.
Estinien blows and I really can't stand having him around
He should have been left in 3.x for real
Estinien is the best scion the frick are you spouting?
Estinien is a bandwagon hopping homosexual who doesn't deserve to be in the main cast and contributes nothing of value
he's a grug brain who understands he's a grug brain. i also ship him with Krile
He contributes more than almost all of the other scions through each expansion. He was a scion in all but name and adventuring with you. He saved your ass twice in SB. Was contracted out by Krile to help put a stop to white rose. He is a good help in Radz-at-Hahn quests. Has more growth than other day one scions. Estinien is great frick off with your shit takes.
he was shoehorned into EW because they got rid of the actual melee Scion and had to fill a slot. he makes a speech about how the reason why he decided to join you all which turns out to be all bullshit because it isn't actually reflected on his character development going forward because there is none. it's extremely moronic how it's the culmination of the entire events of the game so far that he hasn't been around for and has no idea what's happening, why or who anyone is and he just fricking leans his gay homosexual ass against the wall on the other side of the room like an affected moron while people with an actual investment in what's happening ate trying to save the world. its also very fricking cringe how the fact that he fricked a dragon once is somehow pretended to be relevant just because another dragon exists in this story. I hate how he has no insight or ideas about anything going on in 6.1 and 6.2 and just exists to say cringey one liners and comments about how he has no clue what's going on but can kill shit. yes I know, it's why you fricking suck
Estinien blows go have a nice day
>anon has literally a decade of "dragoons are trained to be dragon experts" thrown at him
>can't internalized it
>Seething Lysegay
I was actually talking about Yda, Lyse of course would have been worse than Estinien
>Yda
Rip. Frick Banri
SGE LB is like 2min bro. All that means is your shit team couldn't kill a job with no CC.
Estinien has been constantly involved in major events since his introduction. Maybe you forgot Stormblood and Shadowbringers but he was busy covering your ass and teaming up with Gaius to prevent the end of the world on the Source's end.
estinien was in 1.0 anon
I'm aware.
he didn't say he wasn't?
I'd be more upset about Estinien if they kept Yda a cute moron. I don't miss Lyse and consider him an upgrade (and also a cute moron).
>Lysegay who never played the game rages at Estinien
Lol, Estinien blows Lyse out of the water on every level.
Why is it that male characters always cause some people to sperg out like this?
He contributes being cool
>still no version of this art without print artifacts
He contributes far more than Y'shtola or Alisaie do. Imagine having a character with a PhD in mythology, then putting her in a game where one of the primary antagonistic forces are mythical beings conjured into reality, and then having her not say a single fricking word about any of them.
I like him but I felt like he was mainly included to make Heavensward stuff more relevant to EW as the "big finale" since it's not really too relevant to the finals days/ ancients stuff otherwise
I'M STILL WAITING ON GENJI FENDING/MAIMING FOR SAM
What ranged DPS should I level?
BRD, and it's not even a contest
smn
Archer to 90
>STILL not mandatory to have a job crystal in all content after ~brayflox
good thinking, bard is awful
Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?
The artist
reddit
Playing FF9, I don't like it.
I don't either. Welcome to the unpopular club.
*realized Venat's vague ass plans and saved trillions*
I love Emet-Selch
Very cute anon. I seriously wonder if we'll get that spin-off game staring him.
the what now?
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Basically it was just a thought of making a spin-off or something for emet but when presenting the idea a lot of the workers were like 'That's a lot of work' and it seems no one would be able to handle the headache so who knows if something will come or not.
Staring at Emet-Selch sounds fun and all, but not a whole game!
>not a whole game
Bro I would enjoy a whole game filled to the brim with Emetkino
I would play a game about him being the emperor when he was young
As in the video
I would prefer playing the ancient world tbh. Imagine being gaint magical people being able to create things and go anywhere you want. It would be very nice.
well ancient Emet sucks so no thanks
>well ancient Emet sucks so no thanks
It really is unfortunate that his previous self when younger is a whole 180 from his personality when being the emperor. It feels like he became less charismatic and more of a self-loathing dork that wants to be left alone by everyone in the ancient world.
That's what makes the transformation into his Emperor self all the better. You see parts of him in both.
the ancient version of him is more of a boring trope and not an interesting character
I mean I know there was only a short amount of time with him but no one told them to write a time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place so I'm not cutting the writers any slack
>but no one told them to write a time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place
Yoshida almost certainly did to cash in on the fanservice.
>type in say 'please Emet-Selch'
This made me wanna throw my controller. The entire trip back in time to Elpis was fanservice as heck. I do appreciate seeing him again, but not like how he was just a borning 'tsundere'
>time travel plot where we had to meet him in the first place
It makes me wonder what else was on the drawing board when they decided they wanted to make Zodiark the level 82 trial. Anons reading, how would you have resolved EW/the plot point involving the fall of the Ancients?
I'd wish they'd go more into what they DIDN'T do for their story stuff. I just like to read about the process.
I would have done everything almost the same but Elpis would be a lengthy solo instance in which you use the Echo on Elidibus to get a 1.0 style Echo sequence where you can walk around and interact with the memories but not actually change the past. Not sure where to put the extra zone, maybe the industrial sector of Garlemald they mention in the role quests.
In the tradition of FF4 I would let the big bad show up in the end almost unexplained. My ideal EW would be way more about you and Zenos and then at the end there's just a big bird face.
They should've just gone all the way with the Gurren Laggan tribute the entire expansion basically already was and, instead of having a fricking bird e-girl be the final villain, instead, have some being(s) like the Antispirals who were caushing the destruction of the Ancient world an other worlds for some higher purpose.
THAT would've been kino.
The point of Endwalker was that the despair was coming from inside the house, internally. External threats are always easy to rally against and take down.
>The final fight is us and the scions manifesting a the bigget and most powerful primal ever seen made out of a universe's worth of aether to pilot together to fight the big bad.
KINO KINO KINO KINO
>no Elpis time travel segment
>the noise the Ancients heard was actually the Planet itself screaming in pain
>the Final Days wasn't caused by anything, it was just the Planet going through its natural death throes
>Zodiark, and later Hydaelyn, put the planet on life support
>Fandaniel the Protector, Keeper of Order, wants to destroy both Hydaelyn and Zodiark to let nature take its proper course and let the Planet die
>Zenos possesses Hydaelyn
>WoL takes up the mantle of Zodiark the savior god
>they both fight but eventually team up against the final boss using the combined power of both gods
>final boss is some original equivalent of Necron
I would genuinely change nothing besides maybe introduce Meteion a little earlier or make her status as an *avatar* of destruction a little bit more obvious. I feel Meteion exists perfectly already as an Ancient-created harbinger of their own despair and a subconscious plea for help, and that The Plenty does a good job of showing that the Ancients were going to end up killing themselves one way or another. I also feel that Amon highlighting that the Allagan Empire was going through very similar ennui to The Plenty and The Ancients by hitting their "peak" was an excellent touch, and that adding a galvanizing element through resurrection of Xande and a hard shift into imperialism was an excellent echo or "retort" of Hermes's soul across lifetimes; if he had a second chance, if he'd done something differently in his despairing plea for help, he would have arguably done the same thing in a different direction, hoped that the grass was greener on the other side ("are aliens doing better?" vs. "it was better at the start of the empire").
I feel Elpis was also very necessary to firmly establish that, no, Amaurot and the Ancients did not have utopia. Utopia is inherently unattainable. Things were not better; Warrior of Light is still the mightiest warrior the world has ever known, we have Pandaemonium to point to that; even with Ancients being demigods, they still entreat the help and counsel of sundered life, and grumblingly concede that the sundered have gone in directions their own society could not have ever gone, through mental limitations and strangled patterns of thinking (like the sharks, one guy made a shark so now everybody has to make a shark), or simply because they're too powerful (dense).
I love the stress the story puts upon humankind needing a struggle or else they just ball up and die. So Venat's idea was to make living a struggle.
I was hoping for a marker from dead space.
I dont really like that even the final days were just another ancients creation.
The whole game is him trying to do his work but Azem keeps summoning him to fix their problems and Hythlodaeus keeps coming to bug him. Or it is just his rise to the seat of Emet-Selch and all the adventures he went on with Azem and Hyth before he got there.
How would a spinoff game with Emet even work?
Tropico but early Garlemald
We all do anon. Just keep it down.
>cait sith, ukulele, cylva, etc. are going to get the gaius treatment (not be fricking there) for the 13th's storyline
>If you go talk to them in 6.2 they're just like "Neat, have fun storming the castle. I'll be here doing other stuff."
Friendly reminder that Zodiark Trancers are browsing these threads. Please ignore all Zodiark Trancers. Do not respond to the Zodiark Trancers.
Give Nanamo adventures.
nightime adventures in Ul'dah
just cleared P7S
how is P8S with PF? clearable or should i wait until everyone has better gear/weapons??
It's rough but doable with PF. Still aren't a lot of parties up for it last I checked though, be prepared to sit in town and craft while your party fills. Last week it took like 2 full days to get a fresh prog together when I tried.
Lavos would've been a better villain.
which came first, Ultima from the Heart of Sabik the Allagans were fricking around with, or Ultima the High Seraph that basically invaded the planet at some point?
Bozja field notes seem to suggest that the High Seraph was first. The spell Ultima was supposedly named after the High Seraph.
>clear P8S phase 1 with PF
>check the numbers
you morons told me phase 1 needed tons of dps
>How did we clear on week 4 gear post nerf?
Gee I fricking wonder
>week 4
is savage week 3
But you had a week to gather tomes and normal raid gear that you normally wouldn't have on the second tier of a series.
Its ok if you're hot and charismatic. Then it only adds to the allure.
>hermes indirectly causes a great number of apocalypses across the universe and helps subvert the apocalypse taking place on his own planet
>venat causes one apocalypse that doesn't actually kill anyone, it splits them into 13 copies + one original; she splits herself too
>emet-selch assists in causing seven apocalypses that kills everyone on each planet and forcibly remerges them into the original's lifestream
emet is the biggest douchebag of the bunch
moron
>emet is the biggest douchebag of the bunch
In his defense, Emet was pretty badly traumatized by the whole Final Days thing.
*wheeze*
What happened? I though he he liked Final Fantasy and was done with WoW?
'member WOTLK
4k andy
OH NO NO NO
Rich was always a grifter. WOTLK being WoWs biggest expansion has some hype behind it so he is going to milk it for all that its worth.
Asmongold is doing the same and already admitted that he will quit sooner rather than later.
>WoW gets updated
>"YOOO BOYS ITS FINALLY TIME - WOW WILL BE FUN AGAIN"
>its shit
>YOOO WHAT THE FRICK BLIZZARD FRICK THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME I WILL JUST PLAY SOMETHING ELSE"
>looks up currently popular game and milks it for content
Repeat ad infinitum
Even the Aery is sanitized now, what the frick
What do you mean sanitized
Yes
the only way to fix island sanctuary is to let ryne and gaia move in with you
The game balance seems weird as hell. Given time so that you can gear up above min ilvl, almost anything's viable then, but without it I don't even know why they say the 4th slot is "flexible dps" when we all know it needs to be "2nd melee" or at worst a competent BLM.
The meta keeps changing between two casters and two melee.
>tfw want to keep playing but have nothing to do
i tried getting into savage/EXs but im just too bad at the game...
Wait for the criterion dungeon + Hildibrand shit to come out in 6.25. I am 99% sure they will be paired together for relic grindan.
Git Gud
i tried, anon, but my brain is too moronic to do mechanics and press buttons at the same time, plus its hard for me to tell when its my fault or when its the PF learning party's fault. i was able to clear p1s and p2s late last tier but those were meme fights and p3s filtered me
id probably have an easier if i bit the bullet and switched to dps but i really like healing
easier time*
There's like a dozen activities in this game that eat up your time and aren't raiding
Raiding is pretty soulless tbh.
Just unsub, skip 6.3 and resub for 6.4 when the voidstory ends.
If you ask him, he didn't kill anybody, cause he didn't consider them to be alive
He does, he's just coping.
PLAY PAST 5.0 YOU DUMB MONKEY
PAY ATTENTION WITHIN 5.0 YOU DUMB MONKEY
>Get a close up look of someone using the Pagaga emote.
goddamn the teeth in this game are terrifying
scions don't provide dental
lalafell jumpscare
when will fantasia's become canon
more like lalaFELL OFF
Sell me on a non-MNK melee DPS or non-WHM Healer to try out next tier of savage raids.
I've been a DRK for 1-4, BLM for 5-8, hadn't done any savage raids before then. Half my static don't swap jobs, the other half (myself included) have everything capped even if we've never used it outside of roulettes.
Race?
Elezen male.
dragoon, it's a rite of passage among elezen
You shouldn't be playing anything but DRG and DRK
*silences u*
>RDM, BRD, and WHM on the enemy party
>Literally get told to stop playing the game for a good 20 seconds and die
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Goddamn pre-EW artifact sets looked like hot garbage
>About to Quietus after 2 Shadowbringers
>Some gay ranged job CCs me
PvP is so bad
Try playing a job that isn't shit.
>Be DRG
>Geirsko into Elusive Jump
>Get silence right after I land by BRD
>MCH hit me with air anchor into sniper
>Instantly die
PvP is so bad
>what if we gave Warrior an AoE stun that's as spammable as the purify that doesn't work right anyway and let them partner up with other jobs that can CC lol
The flavor and soul of the new job actions in 6.1 was so fun it was easy to overlook the problems but the devs clearly don't know what they're doing and the shiny factor has fallen off
WAR is balanced in PvP by lacking an invuln and their only serious damage source requires you to pop LB first. A WAR can't kill shit in neutral, they're literally just there to be an irritating distraction.
>The WAR got you killed with strong crowd control options in a mode full of them, but it didn't deal the killing blow so that's balanced
>It has enough self healing to regularly hit higher healing numbers than healer jobs but it never gets a full immune to stuff like Zantetsuken so it's not even that tanky
Okay, but the conversation isn't even about balance. It's about them being irritating as frick which they surely are
For me, it's when Blota activates 2 seconds later than when I cast it and I yank some guy to me from halfway across the map.
I keep running into these leather jacket + cap lizard samurai eyesores, how many can there be
I'd say Au Ra players have hands down the worst fashion sense of anyone but Hrothgar players exist, and 99 percent of them dress like total homosexuals, whereas I see a handful of Au Ra that don't look moronic every time I log in
get yoship to fix SAM and you'll start seeing good saumurai glamours again
>/dote
>/hug
>/cheer
>/puckerup
>enrage the enemy team so much they chase me away from the crystal while my team caps
>mfw I stand right in front of the enemy team's spawn, spamming jump to get their attention, just to waste that last 30 seconds they have as I throw on shield until it times out, then just mash Recuperate while LoS breaking behind walls as they desperately try to finish me off regardless of if they succeed
that's what happened to me on the game i hit crystal on.
three morons chased me during OT and they all got off the rock and we won.
There has to be some way to game the CC queue, I get the same homosexuals on the opposing team every time.
If it's late at night, it's more likely to happen.
rainbow it up like we did in feast
Has anyone ever gotten mad whispers after a PVP match?
>SGE got 4 limit breaks in a single CC round
Is their LB that fast recharging or was there some bullshit going on?
Was your entire team ignoring them while they were DPSing with impunity?
Charges reasonably fast, faster when they push more buttons. Stop them from shooting so many laser next time. Or actually end the match instead of spending 10 minutes in overtime
>Stop them from shooting so many laser next time.
With what? My unlimited stuns?
>faster when they push more buttons
What? Damage doesn't affect LB charge
Shadowbringers was so much better than Endwalker holy shit
>heterochromia
Biggest red flag ever
You'll make G'raha sad.
I liked when the Scions were smaller scale scholars, now they're the Avengers superheroes that can fix every woe in the universe.
That's just how every FF plays out except XI
That's only Alphinaud, Estinien, Urianger and (You) that do that though. The rest just tag along.
exactly 2 (two) of the scions has aspirations of saving the world anon, and they're both out of the story atm
Why did it die?
>No good rewards
>Poor balancing
>Terrible maps
>Shit servers
Can't believe these frickers didn't add anything to the wolf collar and crystal shop for 6.2
All they had to do was recolor a Feastie armor every series but I guess they'd rather burn down their PVP mode than angering the 3 people who care.
Ranked was full of cheaters and frustration for no reward. Casual had decent rewards for time invested at first but the first battlepass lasted way too long so people ran out of rewards and fell out of the habit of play. 2nd battlepass doesn't have particularly interesting items and the trophy crystal shop didn't really update so there's not a lot of reason to get back into it if you're already out.
What did people do to cheat?
Had scripts running to detect certain actions and then respond. Most commonly, WHMs who would instantly turn anyone who LB'd into a little pig so they wasted the meter.
To add to this, NINs were also running scripts where they'd auto LB the millisecond anyone went below 50%
I was accused of cheating and got reported by the PvP discord trannies for "scripting" as WHM because I hit LB interrupts like once every 10 matches.
While cheaters exist, the issue is way overblown and people just need to get good. SAM LBs for example are extremely easy to read, and even though the timing is very precise it's not out of the question getting relatively consistent at stopping them.
Auto-LB, auto-target on low HP, auto-guard, auto-purify, auto-imp on someone about to LB (thus wasting it)
There's a lot of cheats for PVP
at this point they need stop wasting resources in pvp, nobody cares about it
I told everyone dropping rank would kill it, but noo people will actually try now, haha, no they didn't
screenshot this post, next expansion isn't going to be the worst one but 10 years later people will say "It all started to go downhill after Endwaler"
>Want to start the game
>need to put 100+ hours in Realm Reborn
>When I still have a real life
Is it basically impossible to start FFXIV now if you are not a neet?
Just do the free trial at your own pace.
>need to put 100+ hours in Realm Reborn
Who the frick told you this? I guess at a couple points it can feel like this but with the changes they've made over the years up to and including the current major patch, you can knock it out in like 40
the worst part about the cheating is you can't even report them because they will always have the benefit of the doubt.
half the jobs are literally unplayable right now because the homosexuals cheating just instantly counter you.
don't even remind me of that era where white mages were getting infinite cure 2 casts.
What IS it like when you pull back the curtain and realize every wrong is right?
Jack would BTFO every single XIV characters.
Well, he looks like he could suck a mean dick so you're probably right about that.
Maybe once he's wormed away into Dissidia or post-Dissidia and he's way the frick stronger than he was at the start of the game. Jack's died a lot of times and gotten stronger a lot of times. It won't be Jack that BTFOs an XIV character, it'll be Garland.
True
nobody cares about that game mr. esl
where was his crossover event?
The remix of the FF1 battle theme was nice but part of me really felt cheated when there wasn't any trace (I noticed) of the Dissidia Chaos theme
reminder that CHAOS is getting a gilgamesh expansion right around when 6.25 will occur, and gilgamesh mentioned that he was busy off fighting someone in the rift, with the next hildibrand thing being 6.25
Greg is due for a return sometime soon.
Y'shtola would be a better character if she had a hat.
>every single one of the other designs is superior than the one they went with
Frick's sake.
eh i'd only say top left and top right are arguably better, maybe middle left
its time to change her outfit.
>every single fricking hrothgar I see is shirtless or wearing modern shit
Delete these fricking homosexuals from the game already
>can now be a male roe in peace again thanks to all the memelords leaving for hrothgar
Roe are just as bad or even worse but they're just less common, they're Hrothgar orbiters
this. roe are tyrannical and obsessed with being noticed at all costs.
Only the male ones. Female roe don't exist
Imagine being so intimidated by mRoe chads.
I'm not intimidated by them. I'm just an ex-Hrothgar who got a fantasia after dealing with the annoyingly clingy Hrothgar community plus their Roe arbiters.
Theyre just big gay baragay cats, they cant be that bad right?
The Hrothgar community are what you get if you combine the worst aspects of every other race . Fortunately most Hrothgar only deal with other Hrothgar, Roe and sometimes catboys and don't even process other players.
imagine what bozja could have been if it wasn't hrothgar and femroe
i mean it'd still be a blasted out garlean butthole story wise, but it'd be slightly less of a joke
Hrothgar are nothing but visual pollution. They lessen the enjoyment for everyone whenever the game has to waste resources rendering them. Hrothgar players are the lowest of the low, subhuman, wastrels, low lives, the repugnant detritus of Final Fantasy XIV. Your kind is nothing but a joke, it is clear that some unlucky homosexual at Creative Business Unit 3 pulled some kind of underhanded trickery to get his pathetic fetish race put into the game. The normal developers treat the race like the joke they are, and try to have them in the story as little as possible. Hrothgar players should all kill themselves.
>SGE on enemy team LBs 4+ times
>SGE on my team LBs 0 times with a full LB bar the entire match
I'm fricking cursed
I'll make sure to primal rend alone straight into the middle of the enemy team just for you.
WAR can survive if your team isn't filled with midwit morons whose W key broke
>your team isn't filled with midwit morons whose W key broke
That's the typical team comp in CC, unfortunately.
PC gamers have a Win Key?
Yes, see
why are PC Black folk like this?
SE doesn't enforce the rules, so cheaters run rampant. It's been happening for years and is a major factor on why PVP will never be a thing long term.
It has nothing to do with PC. The game has no cheat detection, bots and cheaters run rampant and are in literally every aspect of the game, in mass. Modding is literally the lifeblood of this game.
The normal joe dont see it because they are stuck doing MSQ/roulette.
>Plunge into Salted Earth then Guard to finally start the fricking match
>WHM and WAR blow their stuns on me
>Look at my team
>My SCH died during a 4vs2
I hate people
Cats are best race still
>I'm just evil I think
What's evil about wanting to get your senpai to notice you?
Leveling MCH frick it they going to buff it soon.
MCHs have been saying that since 4.0 but surely this will be the time
that's so reddit!
He leveled?
Nerf it.
Based, frick the meta. You're the guy with a gun.
nerf gun*
That's all you need. Don't be a pussy.
That's gay, I wanted to be the guy with the gadgets. Frick the whole John Woo fricked The Matrix and gave the baby stimulants vibe. Give me multiple turrets. Give me Gauss Barrel.
14 is my new forever game.
I enjoy making a new character and just trying to play without the HUD as much as possible.
and is the worst written character in all of FF
that's not Hope
i like how they were both from 13
which isn't terribly inaccurate, though i thought it was funny
frickheads from 15 probably top them though
15 is a bad, boring game that is most typically at odds with itself but I really can't think of a character I dislike, it did that fairly well. The worst I can say is that some were in the game for such a small period of time that they didn't have a chance to develop beyond one gimmick, but since they're not there very much it's not much of a problem either.
The characters are the only decent thing about 15.
SNOW!!!
SERAAAAH!!!
Man why are BRD bows so fricking huge
I just want something discreet and cool looking
I'm kinda out of the loop, did they change Paladin or Warrior?
they got buffed recently, war also lost its cone aoe in 6.1
i will never stop being mad about them removing kaiten
well don't worry your endless crying over a pointless button wasn't in vain, they've now put off touching dragoon's button bloat (and even reverting some small improvements to it) for 7.0
squeenix tgs show in 10 mins for those interested
Thank you anon
No problem. I'm hoping for a new FFXVI trailer for more Soken.
lol
I was just about to go to bed...
Look up the interview with the designer at fanfest.
>Look up the interview with the designer at fanfest.
Why don't you just post it yourself so we can laugh at you for misinterpreting it.
I don't remember which EW fanfest it was and I'm not gonna go hunt for it. I told you where to look so go find it if you care.
>Toss around something as fact without having a source to back it up
I gave you the source, it's the EW fanfest interview with the character designer. That's enough for you to find it if you care.
That shit is broken.
It was literally just a bunch of trailers we've already seen and mobile game ads. I was at least expecting to see how Blue Mage will play in the new SoP DLC
I wish he could have killed MILLIONS so we wouldn't have to have this thread again.
I honestly like having these threads, it's the only place to actually talk about the game. xivg isn't really meant for discussion and seemingly only for avatar-posting and porn posting.
I'm just happy Barry doesn't bother shitting up XIV threads on Ganker even though he constantly shits on the game and XVI in his own containment threads.
Ganker XIV threads are the only place on Ganker where you can have any actual discussion of anything FF at all.
>tfw you only come to Ganker for XIV
Any other players the same?
I miss that little psychotic fricker like you wouldn't believe.
Well, PLDkeks? Have you made the switch to DRK yet or are you still trolling PFs?
>playing crutch jobs
>he doesn't know
>HE doesn't know that tanks should be judged by rdps but adps
sorry, come back in 6.3 when you get reworked into a job that lines up with 2 minute burst like the other 3 tanks and then we can have this dick measuring content proper. I play drk and pld btw
>GNB is ahead in every fight except the one where you can end it during DRK's big DPS spike that misrepresents the average
troony MMO
yoshitpiss is a hack
He was able to build and run Garlemald through sheer Charisma. The same Charisma that has convinced the playerbase that his genocide was justified. We are the Garleans. When Garlemald was destroyed it was a message from Yoshi P. Emet-Selch fans aren't welcome. Yoshi P is a huge venat simp.
>ff16 titan is just titan maximum
never noticed that
hope still alex shows up
They're putting a lot of FF XIV stuff in the new Theatrythm game.
thought it was neat they had torn from the heavens as the immediate "look at all the cool music" follow up to one winged angel
anyone else tired of the fricking dps balance discussion?
Yes you should try your best and if you're sucking you should get better. All the jobs change all the time, does the spot they're in now really matter that much?
Someone's always gotta be the ugliest supermodel so the fight over last place or first is dumb, but XIV has legitimate balance problems right now which is extra frustrating when the sterilization and samification of so many jobs was done in the name of unparalleled balance and every composition being viable.
Yeah I'd rather have jobs getting unique shit to play around with if MCH isn't going to get let into parties anyway.
>XIV has legitimate balance problems right now
>right now
dps disparity has always been like this every single raid tier, except this time it matters because they made a fight with an overtuned DPS check and the disparity is now affecting classes that are actually popular (namely warrior mains getting upset).
In fairness, XIV "had" a balance problem. 4 weeks of tomes and 3 weeks of loot rolls and every comp can clear now. What problem it really has, I don't know the word for. They literally said "The ranged tax is real but since we took away downtime there's not a need for it so we're gonna adjust and even rework PLD, but also not touch the job that is paying the heaviest ranged tax because lmao" It just gives the impression that the devs aren't even fully aware of their own product.
It makes you wonder if they even play it?
What do you want to talk about?
Everything in the game that's still gonna matter even after the next expansion is out.
Like I cna't think of anything I care about less than if we went back in time to read threads about the balance of any expansion. If it really sucks that bad then harass yoshi, start a private server or shut the frick up and stop playing because it's literally people repeating the same points over and over about how frustrated they are over something they can't change.
>Everything in the game that's still gonna matter even after the next expansion is out.
Like?
Dungeons, raids, trials, the story, side content, the community, hopes, fears
Like the island, it fricking sucks, I hate it I don't understand people that like it.
>Dungeons, raids, trials, side content, the community, hopes, fears
>Mattering after an expansion
Not all of that always matters but it still matters because they're things you can talk about with newer players and they'll at least understand you and be able to talk to you about that stuff.
If you talk about the balance of tanks in 6.2 by the time 7.0, they'll either be like "Oh so things haven't changed" or like "Oh things have changed."
Does it? The majority of that shit becomes irrelevant and serves no purpose besides glamour runs by the time the next expansion is out.
the worst part is it only matters to raidtrannies chasing high scores
>The world's top MCH did as much damage as a MNK in the bottom 8%
>Even if both are played optimally the difference is about a million damage over the course of a fight
>Just about high scores though
yea, having everything be 100% identical is lame as shit and it only matters to raidgays anyway
look at all the unique stuff they added to pvp that people love
Who the frick cares. Why would you care.
Not doing enough damage causes you to fricking lose the fight and kill the whole party. The concept of "sufficient" damage is very relevant especially since you're probably not going to be playing with the world's top MCH
You can easily clear all content as a MCH though, as long as you are just semi competent to not botch rotations. I agree they need a potency buff as they don't even bring utility to the table and are entirely selfish, but you aren't locked out of anything. The only ones who cares about doing stuff as fast as possible are the min-max trannies that ruins every game they touch.
Maybe the gay should git gud.
Who cares they aren't the same role and fights are designed with 1 ranged in mind
>The world's top MCH did as much damage as a MNK in the bottom 8%
both cleared the fight, the only metric that matters
>b-but I had to work harder then the other guy
people are constantly saying this game is being made easier and easier but now that those same people need to work hard to pass damage checks because they're too impatient to just get gear and come back in a few weeks suddenly working hard is a problem. if I was square I'd C&D fflogs
The really tight DPS check on P8s really exposed the problem with games homogeneous class design + every one is DPS approach. Classes being "punished" for having utility that isn't damage and party damage buffs and/or not fitting super well with the 2 min burst window is really stupid design
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree islands are total dogshit? I dread doing this chore now when I log in. As soon as I get the last two mounts I'm out.
>play femlala
>GigaStacy the Viera in her button down, jean shorts, and glasses starts /tell me creepy things
How do I contact the LimLom police? I'm getting groomed.
>pvpkeks
>pvp autists
>cheating
Imagine my shock
How do you cheat in pokemon?
Isn't checking for ilegal stat spreads or moves a non issue?
what did they get caught doing?
using an insta-cc addon?
Word on the street is a banned wintrader was playing in the tournament on someone else's account
Yes the content in your video game matters when people are constantly comparing and talking about the content in your video game.
Does the story of shadowbringers not matter because you've done it already? would you tell someone new to the game to just skip it and get straight to endwalker so they can do savages?
Yes and I have.
Then we're just different people and I can't engage with you.
It's not your fault or my fault, it just is what it is.
homie, no one is talking about any dungeons, deep dungeons, Bozja, Eureka or anything that isn't raiding and MSQ.
>bozja was so shittily written and boring they reversed course.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
People talk about their roulette shit all the time when something goes wrong and people talk about eureka/bozja shit as they're doing it. As more people get in to the game those topics come up.
also the zodiark trance drama shit is basically everyone talking about content that ended on the release of endwalker, which was fricking november 2021.
And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes, which is why we're lucky if we get one post about it a thread. And no one talks about Eureka or Bozja, new players just ask what others think, then everyone tells them it's good if you like grindy shit.
>And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes
Well that depends on how merciful god is feeling that day.
And I've seen people argue about which is better, I don't fricking care about bozja or eureka but people for sure talk about them
Actual discussion about Eureka/Bozja is rare, it's either new players asking for opinions or experienced players lamenting about them, mainly Bozja's story
Exactly. It's almost always so unremarkable and boring that even when something does go wrong it's usually minor, like a tank dying during a w2w or someone fricking up a mechanic. Nothing interest to discuss at all
>And shit barely goes wrong in roulettes
It goes wrong plenty, it's just easy enough to salvage the vast majority of the time do it's not worth the energy to complain about.
While that's true, was it equally worth the energy to complain about the balance of 5.2 shadowbringers looking back?
ONSLAUGHT POTENCY WENT FROM 1000 TO 1200, OMG.
That's where you guys are now and you don't even realize, that's all I'm saying
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/6d95409248d3ab3b5dbc0c8a04340b373870140b