>seeing the TOP World Race
>comentators going holyyy poggers look at that dance it's the best
>it's memory of stand here then stand there with no real RPG interaction
Memes aside and a genuine question. Does it really compelling or fun? The difficult and gameplay being just stand here if you have this color or stand there if you have the other one? No interaction with the boss other than healing or use the dmg -% for mitigation? Is it really what all of this comes down? To just remember where to stand?
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i wish every everquest MUH BUILD cultist a very have a nice day
compared to what? WoW where people have plugins that pretty much play the game for them?
>mention wow out of nowhere
What the frick?
When you complain about one game on Ganker one of the first posts is always shitting on the other game. It's like some kind of natural law nowadays.
It's truly remarkable that despite being 20 years old, World of Warcraft remains the greatest and most popular MMO on the planet.
The frick else would you compare FFXIV too? Metroid Dread? Unreal Tournament? Pong? Fricking disingenuous homosexuals.
I don't want to compared to anything dumb Black person. The mmorpg genre is fricking shit rn i don't want it to be like anything in the market DUMB FRICK PIECE OF SHIT
If you hate MMOs why are you in an FFXIV thread getting mad over MMOs? Maybe leave, take a few deep breaths, and you should calm down. I'm sure there's a coomers thread or a consolewar thread somewhere in the catalog for you.
>Tell me if this game is good.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT COMPARE IT TO OTHER GAMES I NEED THIS CRITIQUE TO BE COMPLETELY DEVOID OF COMPARISON BECAUSE... I JUST DO OKAY?!?
because a critique should stand on its own. comparing it to others is fricking moronic and is what russians do. you're not russian, are you?
>Don't compare with your critique!
>*compares with his insult*
Pottery
It doesn't always need a comparison. Just because one thing is worse in another game doesn't excuse it being bad in the first place.
>Being so moronic you can't even answer the question from the OP.
He wasn't comparing games moron. He asked if what you do in the game is actually fun or not. Stop deflecting and answer the OP or go be a dumb Black person somewhere else.
>answer the OP
Ok. Yes. Game is fun. If you don't like it you're probably Barry, and thus should have a nice day.
Are you fricking happy now?
OP you're pretty much only going to get answers that are bait, evasive, or straight moronic, so i'll keep it 100. No, it's not fun and it's one of the numerous reasons i decided to quit playing.
You 100% would not play this game if it didn't have a final fantasy skin on it btw
peak homosexualry
>skin
Is it really a skin when more than half of the game itself is in some way related to previous or latter entries in the franchise?
The final boss in Heavensward is literally a supermove from FF7.
I only played FFX and Tactics for maybe one hour and I still have fun in this game. Mostly because it's fun doing mechanics and struggling in hard content with friends, I don't care about anything else, farming and grinding is not for me. Optimizing some fights is also fun, it's a pretty unique experience for me, because I didn't really play an MMO before.
Don't know if I'm gonna continue playing in 7.0, I did everything I wanted in the game, pretty satisfied overall.
>You 100% would not play this game if it didn't have a final fantasy skin on it btw
Jokes on you homosexual I didn't want to play this game initially but my friends were like "no they fixed it it's good now" and that was 1500 sub days ago.
>it's one of the numerous reasons i decided to quit playing.
Is one of those reasons you being a massive weeping vegana?
FFXIV has this too, it's shit that these kinds of games always devolve into automation
FFXIV is only “difficult” because the classes are needlessly complex and the raids are bloated with mechanics. WoW difficulty is more genuine since it’s based on gear checks, while FFXIV difficulty is artificial since it’s gatekeeped by skill.
>gear check is good
>needing skill is bad
??? You seriously don't believe this, do you?
This is a bait post and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Honestly it's hard to tell these days with some of the horrible takes some people have.
>0 skill gearcarried loser detected
Dont get me wrong ff14 raids are by no means fun but atleast it isnt just
>oh sowwy your number isnt high enough go grind 500 more of this exact raid but scaled down and maybe you can join
Kys wowBlack person
Kek this was a good pasta back in the boomer days of SHB.
>FFXIV difficulty is artificial since it’s gatekept by skill
skillet cope will NEVER stop being funny. "Yes I will ooga booga this boss by over-gearing myself. Brain, what's that?"
>implying ffxiv bosses dont get completely destroyed by "overgearing" them (wearing the gear they drop)
They do get easier, while still being full of resolve or wipe mechanics that generally don't occur at the part of the fight that you'll skip from overgearing
However this does not effect cutting edge teams like it does for WoW, where an absolutely absurd amount of world first race time is dedicated to scamming the game's loot systems to meet the overturned gear checks
>to meet the overturned gear checks
mythic difficulty requiring heroic gear isnt overtuned
lol
so whats your bright idea? that heroic loot should outgear mythic and they would just still go get it and then instantly destroy all of the fights?
excellent bait
>not knowing this pasta
Fricking newbies
Takes a specific kind of masochist with iron balls to get through it, being kicked in the gonnards over and over and still standing up and continuing wipe after wipe.
if you run a marathon in the woods hidden from the world you are not actually running in the boston marathon. same principle. only streamed proggers should be counted in the race
if someone isn't streaming they shouldn't be included
neverland is gonna win this
hahaha, no
I lasted a minute before quitting
who cares about schizo drama
What bothers me most about these schizo babbles is the sporadic manga and SpongeBob image macros littered around in his MSPaint diagrams
what a fricking weirdo
Memes aside and a genuine question. Does it really compelling or fun? The difficult and gameplay being just stand here if you have this color or stand there if you have the other one? No interaction with other players other than clicking them or use the key for mitigation? Is it really what all of this comes down? To just remember where to stand?
it's reacting to the fight and figuring out where to stand - it's not the same place every single time, there's almost always some randomness thrown into a mechanic at savage/ultimate levels that require you to quickly identify your role in the mechanic and resolve it.
Most video games come down to "see visual cue, react to it" - what's your point?
its like you never raided in mmo in your life. this appiles to all them.
what are the omega phases so far, is /ourguy/ sephiroth in yet?
machine omega
twin omega
ultimate omega
omega perfected
gay
no kefka or exdeath
>no exdeath
>he fell for fake datamines
same datamine has the new omega transition for p4, moron
https://www.twitch.tv/bagelgooseff/clip/ConcernedEsteemedNoodlePupper-Q6XUWI_wYjBAY2ii
it's real, Exdeath is in
where is exdeath in this clip
think anon, think
What if Omega uses attacks from the other bosses? But on a side note, sound effects are recycled between things. Like if you look at the mount list, you'll see repeating sound effect sources.
https://github.com/xivapi/ffxiv-datamining/blob/master/csv/Mount.csv
In column 20.
are you kidding me my based robot beetle gets two minutes and that's it?
I legit do not understand when people say that 14 mechanics are super scripted compared to WoW
A WoW boss will do the same thing at the same time every pull unless there's a weird HP push that everybody hates
It's cope, XIV has three times as many mechanics so they just pretend it's all "memorization".
If it was merely memorization then more than 0.1% of the players would had gotten through it due to sheer autism.
>>>/vg/
Thank you for your service, volunteer janny. You're always a welcome sight.
This sounds like someone who doesn't understand the very premise of what they're even mad about.
I'm not mad. I try to understand why the premise sound so shit. Does it really boils down to memory and no execution?
Define execution and how it differs from see mechanic react to mechanic
see mechanic and react it's way more fun because you can also introduce RNG to it to make it different each time. Pure memory like all the fights are mostly down to a puzzle where you solve it once and you need to memorize it. Also you solve it by seeing a shitty VoD on twitch and doing a toolbox or some other gay shit.
FFXIV has raids where the moveset's order is randomised and each run isn't 100% the same. You react to what you see in those fights.
You can't say that with a straight face.
I just did.
Like randomizing who needs to do what every time. Or where mechanics spawn so that you have to adapt to them.
>He actively wants the fights to be more annoying to grind.
>because you can also introduce RNG to it to make it different each time
RNG is shit, what the game needs is more skill expression and optimization possibilities for skilled players, not more RNG
Right now RNG already matters too much because you can literally lose runs to not crit DHing your big burst skills in the 2 minute window
rng is the only way to incite true skill expression
theres no skill expression in the first 30 mainline moves of a chess match, it comes in the endgame when the quantity of decisions has practically left you in an rng board state
RNG that you have to react to and work with is fun and expressive of skill though
The current issue with RNG is literally whether or not your attacks do more damage than normal; which you have no control over and can't react to
With how much damage is concentrated into bursts, RNG during said bursts becomes the biggest issue
>RNG that you have to react to and work with is fun and expressive of skill though
ffxiv has some rng in its mechanics but you have no room to work with it you just have to recognize what position youre supposed to flex to instead
there is no skill expression because theres no room for any answer but the correct one to resolve ffxiv mechanics
Right, this is why the difference was way bigger in HW
Bosses didn't allow for full uptime for melees, phys ranged had shit tons of buffs/stance dance timing/auto attack facing to handle, and casters were less mobile
Even in TOP the hitboxes are massive
With HW balancing, DPS checks were way less restrictive, but you could blast bosses with the right handling/optimization
I miss that a lot
>With HW balancing, DPS checks were way less restrictive, but you could blast bosses with the right handling/optimization
*if you had the one viable god comp
For speedruns, sure, but I remember still being able to see huge differences in dungeons and 24 mans too with just some good players
Adding more RNG to current fights would barely change anything because all it really does is test your ability to react, you'll just remember the optimal strategies for maximum uptime for the different mechanic patterns you can get and that's that
And the more RNG you add to those mechanics the slower and more reactable you have to make them
i know this is going to sound like a meme but its fresh in my mind and its the perfect example of the type of rng that allows for skill expression that ffxiv has none of
hodir in ulduar on wotlkc is an extremely simple fight, the npcs spawn spotlights that you gain huge damage buffs for standing inside of but the boss will cast falling rocks on raid members that knock you around so you cant just afk in the beams
the spotlight positions are completely rng and the people the boss casts the rocks on is completely rng
every single pull of the boss will be completely different from the last because every single pull you have to make a decision on what spotlights to move towards and where to move once a falling rock telegraph is covering you, thats skill expression even if the fight is ultimately easy
Literally the same in FFXIV, most AOEs are thrown around randomly.
The ones with set patterns are the odd ones.
Mist Dragon? Randomly hides and blasts through the entire arena
Ifrit? Random explosions left and right
Literally every boss ever? Yep, random expression up the ass too, Shiva even chooses weapons at random, uses skills randomly, same with Titan, "RNG" "expression" is just your personal bias.
i dont think theres a single aoe in all of p5-8s that is completely random in where it appears
can you think of one?
Most of them are either a random pattern or randomly targeted. Otherwise they follow distance so they need to be properly baited which is honestly a better alternative than leaving the RNG Gods decide if they frick your run over or not.
so your answer is no, you cant think of one
>Most of them are
such as?
by my recollection most(all) of them are not
p8s p1's random dog/snake phases change cd timings a lot. parse runs will just wall it if the wrong one spawns.
not relevant to what were talking about but thanks
>Wants an example of RNG in a new fight
>"B-bu it's not the example I wanted!"
Fricking baby.
>a single aoe in all of p5-8s that is completely random in where it appears
>uh dog or snake can happen in either order!
you dont read too good huh?
moving the goalpost, seems like you're just being intentionally dishonest anon
i know you just heard about "moving the goalposts" recently but unfortunately you were too excited to say it when it didnt apply here
>that's not REAL RNG
>implying whether you get dog or snakes isn't RNG
>implying where the snakes are striking aren't RNG
moving the goalpost and no true scottsman, you're pretty disingenuous just be a man and take your L
i didnt ask for real rng i asked specifically for rng aoes because the poster i replied to specifically asserted that rng aoes were commonplace
keep trying though, surely the next buzzword you drum up will apply
Considering how hard you moved em after
I think we all got to see a pretty good example firsthand.
you ever going to provide a single example?
>AoEs are a random pattern or randomly targeted.
>DUHGHH THAT'S NOT RANDOM!!!
You try to type like you're smart but we all know you press spacebar with the drool that drips from your mongrel mouth.
im just asking for a single aoe that is randomly placed at any point in the boss arena like the spotlights on hodir
You DO realize having an AoE that can be randomly placed literally fricking anywhere in the boss arena is amateurish game design from 200-fricking-7... Right?
He thinks it's good because WoW did it, that's pretty much it, pure nostalgia homosexualry.
Homie's walking into Hell's Kitchen asking for dinosaur nuggets and ketchup lmao
quit picking on the worlo enjoyers. they are literally moronic
so we agree that none of the p5-8s fights have completely rng aoes, cool
Yes because having completely RNG AoEs is a shit mechanic and you should stop asking for it (because it's shit and you have shit taste)
glad you realized you didnt have to fight against reality to try and prove something, different games are different
heres me using that exact same wording at the very beginning of the discussion
>the spotlight positions are completely rng
Are spotlights completely RNG?
Can they spawn inside walls or outside of the Hodir room?
Guess they're not completely RNG then, so I guess you lose
haha wow man you got me 🙂
and they can also incite completely different responses such as skill expression vs memorization and pattern recognition
>he finally realizes he got got
Black person you're arguing with people who have twice your IQ, you play WoW ffs.
actually i play ffxiv, how else would i know there isnt a single rng aoe in abyssos savage?
theoretically sure but as weve already discussed rng and skill expression are dated 2007 mechanics
>rng and skill expression are dated 2007 mechanics
There goes the little wienersucker twisting words yet again. We have to take everything anon says as stone cold but everyone else? Soft as clay.
Jump off a cliff you miserable little israelite.
>miserable little israelite
kek'd because it's spot on
>theoretically sure but as weve already discussed rng and skill expression are dated 2007 mechanics
Yeah TOP is so 2007
And one game can do both but because the rhetoric leans one way with detractors of said game they will just completely ignore examples of the game doing both because it doesn't fit their narrative.
>Can they spawn inside walls
That is a good question, can the spawn with the center of the AoE in the arena but one of the edges clipping the walls? Cus if not than anon is gonna sudoku himself after he realizes his life is a lie.
>different games are different
Don't forget they can also be worse and dated
>completely rng aoes
>adding weasel words
He's such a massive childish homosexual, not even worth arguing with, worse than a 5 year old just going
>NUH UH MY DAD IS IMMUNE TO BULLETS
>Right now RNG already matters too much because you can literally lose runs to not crit DHing your big burst skills in the 2 minute window
p8s was a mistake and the only that that EVER HAPPENED. That's why Yoshi cried on stream.
the first mechanic for MF in the ultimate has four RNG elements, two which need to be reacted to in 3 seconds of starting the mechanic or it's a wipe
For many fights yes. Whenever there are moments of execution, people panic. See UCOB heavensfall trio.
The game has gone away from this as time goes on.
Heavenfalls is pure kino. I'm sad fights don't really do anything like that anymore.
That's why people liked barbariccia so much tho.
do you think the game plays itself once it's solved? you can know the dance but still need to do it lmao
Are you saying remembering where the frick to stand is compelling or hard? I mean i guess if you have the memory span of a fish.
Post DSR clear.
moving to avoid specific things that happen very quickly where messing up leads to a wipe is difficult and stressful yes, if it was easy people wouldn't be struggling to clear the content obviously.
>things that happen very quickly
what game are we talking about now because i know its not ffxiv
>man who only queues roulettes acts like all content is balanced to be that hard
do not reply to me again
People who say stuff like that have usually not done any content that's more difficult than the current Unreal trial.
Still waiting for that DSR clear btw.
don't ask anything from me again. Shit game btw
>parse 1000%
very nice
I am sorry anon.
Black person you can't even remember where your keys are half the time.
>Black person you can't even remember where your keys are half the time.
I literally can't change where my shit is to optimize it more because i press the same shit without even thinking about it. The fights in this game are the same. I'm sure more than 90% of the people in this thread has pulled a fight so many times that he can just shut down his brain and literally do the same shit each times because it's hardcoded like that.
>I'm sure more than 90% of the people in this thread has pulled a fight so many times that he can just shut down his brain and literally do the same shit each times because it's hardcoded like that.
ffxiv is the only "action" game where i literally fall asleep at my computer in the middle of a fight pressing the exact same buttons in the exact same order for 20+ seconds waiting for the next mechanic to start
https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyPluckyKoupreyRalpherZ-GFvy1k0qZwATHBfi
>game telegraphs a known mechanic
>ACTUALLY YOU HAVE TO DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE
so this is ffxivs hardest content? artificial difficulty rug pull bullshit? lmfao
Scrubs should have downloaded a boss mod to tell them that.
The boss was casting Wave Cannon, this was a protean in O12s.
it was casting wave cannon long before the stacks appeared
the game's already been doing this for years where reacting to the newest visual stimulus when another hasn't been properly concluded usually leads to death. bozja did it a lot.
It looks like it used a spread attack followed by a stack and they stacked before resolving it
>p4 omega just reboots to fix itself
Noice
also gets the MSQ limit break buff
Didnt catch that. Pretty cool. Wonder what will come up next.
>Use Healer LB3 to remove a specific debuff.
>Omega analyzes it and unlocks Dynamis knowledge
>Goes into golden Dynamis twins phase.
>Absorbs Alpha to become Alpha Omega to continue breaking limits.
>You're waku waku'd into breaking your own limits too, gaining Dynamis stacks, just going all out against each other, and that's when Torn from the Heavens (Orchestral) plays.
Is this kino?
>Torn from the Heavens
Is this ever stated to be the WoL's theme song? I feel like it should be.
Maker's Ruin is
I think it is alongside with The Maker's Ruin. It's often used with that in other stuff, like for Heartless and From the Heavens.
Either that or Maker's Ruin.
Maker's Ruin is the WoL's theme, but I feel like Torn from the Heavens is sort of up there. And it's the phrase used to describe Dynamis when we're FIRST introduced to it by the elephant. She mentions that it's an energy torn from the heavens.
For meta bonus, Soken has gone on record saying Torn from the Heavens is one of his favorite songs in XIV because it was one of the songs he worked on while they were retooling the game to become ARR, having to work hard for that. So to him, it represents that spirit to carry on and fix things and work hard to handle the trial they were facing. So it's sort of the meta-theme of Dynamis, I guess.
>this effect can be dispeled by healer limit breaker
Does the shit says that in-game? really?
The english localisation team is getting noticeably worse with every patch.
>Omega goes full fight autist and we clash our passions together
Kino
This theme is better than it has any right to be
This better be the WoL's theme
Shit will be hype in Omega's last phase
FF14 raiding has always been like learning a dance.
what seperates ffxiv from wow is healing
99% of healing in ffxiv raids are predictive
50% of wow healing is predictive, 50% is reactive
Healing in FFXIV is reactive if someone takes a hit they shouldn't have.
which is less common since most ffxiv mechanics are get hit = die
As a caster and bad at the game, you can survive more hits than you think you can in savage. Just can't be making a habit of it
only after weeks of gear, in minilvl practically every single mechanical failure is an instant death
unless you actually push your personal mitigation when you frick up
t. monk who was always the last dps alive when shit hits the fan
shit doesnt hit the fan in min ilvl prog, people just get gibbed and then the pull is over
its really obvious you dont have experience progging before weeks of tomestone gear
i week one all the tiers man, they're not that bad. raidwides vary from 40% weak, 90% strong and 110% needs mitigation. you can save your ass a ton with riddle of earths/manawards/etc
raidwides have nothing to do with mechanical failures, theyre explicitly unavoidable damage
>tank dies and you are getting raped by autos
mitigation second wind
>not enough people for stack
clench ass with mitigation
>you went to wrong spot
mitigate and enjoy your damage down
>add unkilled and explodes
you can actually survive with mitigation but people get lazy and just let it wipe
>etc
not every mechanic is a funny group instawipe filter, most just cause explosions that grief the lazy ass healers who can't react. healers could literally save runs if they see people frick up a mechanic and pop seraph succor
Pretty much everything comes with huge temporary vuln to ensure every unintended source of damage kills you on the spot.
There are no stereotypical "get out of the fire" raid mechanics where damage taken is based on how quickly you reacted to it.
The only unnecessary damage you can take comes from undermitigation.
95% of the time taking a hit you werent supposed to is instant death in savage/ultimate difficulty content and even if they werent the pure engine limitations of quickly providing reactive healing will get people killed
WoW healing has more flexibility in comp as well, dropping from 3 healers to 2 or whatever. XIV raiding is much more structured.
Standing there spamming heals needlessly with your brain shut off is pure cancer.
FFXIV at least gives you something to do by actually having mechanics you have to do instead of sitting there spamming Chain Heal or Rejuvenation at people with 100% HP 24/7.
>spamming heals needlessly
its not needlessly because wow encounters actually challenge the healer to heal more than once every 20 seconds
Except they don't, you just mindlessly spam heals because there's literally nothing to do, you just have 5 morons shooting blanks at their healbot frame hoping to hit a fly eventually.
Even a 5 year old could do that shit.
you do know that every single wow healer has more dps buttons than ffxiv healers right?
You do know every boss in XIV has 5 times more mechanics than Mythic raids right?
see
2.5 gcd and server ticks makes reactive healing shitty in ffxiv. Even doing clutch rescues is a pain because of the server ticks, you have to time it JUST right
>what is OGCD
You use OGCD instant heals for emergencies dumbass.
ogcds take 1.5 seconds to cast unless you're standing around AFK and not casting
You clearly don't even understand how OGCD work.
>dropping a broil cast just to cast a shitty ogcd
no sane healer would do this
How shit at the game do you have to be to not understand how to use oGCDs? Who mentioned anything about dropping a broil?
>ogcds take 1.5 seconds to cast unless you're standing around AFK and not casting
... What? You do know all healers were changed so they can spam as much oGCDs as they want now?
Healing's the one part of encounter design I enjoy more in WoW, it's a fricking snooze fest in 14
XIV only has tanks and healers in the most arbitrary way, frankly they're all playing DPS. WoW falls into this trap often as well, but they generally do a better job of having tanks needing to do tank things and healers actually having to do healing.
>tanks just sit there and are ignored by 90% of all mechanics
>healers just spam the same spell over and over since MP stopped being a thing back in Catacylsm and their damage spells aren't even worth casting.
Honestly they're both shit but FFXIV actually requires you to actually learn mechanics instead of just sitting there pressing the same key or clicking the same damn healbot bar at the top like a braindead monkey
Healer DPS is very important in modern WoW raiding, and healers generally get the exact same mechanical burden in a fight that the ranged DPS do. Tanks in WoW actually have to worry about positioning the boss correctly, since the boss arenas aren't tiny circles and the bosses don't position themselves for you.
>tank positioning is important
I bet you include knowing how to park a shopping car in your resume.
Imagine being this fricking moronic, how do you even remember how to breathe?
Tanking is way more fun in WoW raids because you have to move the boss around a lot. This almost never happens in XIV raids which contributes to Tanks feeling like blue DPS.
Tanks moved the bosses before ShB e9s - e12s. Shits so braindead now
>e2s where the boss never moved despite arena mechanics
it was nice
Tanks have to participate in mechanics in XIV instead of just walking the dog.
Anytime I tank in WoW spamming the same 2 keys I just wish Newsom decides to cut the power so I'm free from this braindead slop
is it true that WoW tanking is like that
TEA was fun overall but I was BJ tank and only had to take a few steps every now and then and I wanted to blow my brains out every BJCC phase after months of prog. i cant imagine an entire game that's built like that
>TEA was fun overall but I was BJ tank and only had to take a few steps every now and then
When was the last fight where you had to do more than that though
the problem with BJ for split style was that after the ice missile, you're just hitting a target dummy while 7 other people are doing all the work and wiping and you can't do anything about it up until final judgment
Even in mythics, at best you'll use a cooldown when DBM rings a bell.
If you're the offtank you'll pick up adds instead.
hardest mechanic a tank ever sees in WoW is a tank swap.
Athars randomly clicking buttons triggers me so fricking much, even though it clearly isn't holding him back
game isn't difficult enough that clicking is an actual handicap
I wish Omega-F would sit on my face
I had fun hanging out with the boys and playing simon says two or three times a week. Sometimes you get a baseless dopamine hit from the new piece of gear or whatever. That said I don't miss playing MMOs at all.
Yeah, there's little to no rpg or even cooperation between these players. A healer heals and does damage, a tank and dps does damage. Beyond that it's cooldown 'management' and position. You can guess, of course they've been trying their best to breach the gal between mouth breathing, single brain cell armless monkeys and good players with every single update they push out.
Depressing shit.
tell me you play sam without telling me you play sam
>press your aoe buff during your cds that you would press even if it only buffed you
>see guys im cooperating with the team!
Don't forget about the damage mitigation skills
sam has the exact same amount as every other dps
Haven't played the game since endwalker early access. What does your Black person moron answer even have to do with what I said.
It's a selfish DPS class that doesn't have buffs or mit skills to coordinate with the party. Most other DPS classes have one or both.
Are you implying that players 'cooperate' with other players by using buffs that THEY WOULD HAVE USED ANYWAYS EVEN WITHOUT THEM IN THE PARTY? Your level of fricking moronation is dangerous.
Knowing when to use them exactly and assisting in mitigating damage in the correct order is cooperation, yes.
>Knowing when to use them
every 2 minutes, because thats when everybodys buffs and cooldowns are ready
Without any foresight if you do them whenever and every two minutes they will fall out of sync with the team
>if everyone used their 2 minute cds on cooldown every two minutes they would fall out of sync
thats some interesting math youve done to come to that conclusion, care to share it?
I actively play the game and see it happen.
you see it happen because people are failing to press their 2 minute cds on cooldown
You mean every two minutes, moron? Does it fit in your head that fricking Warzone is a vastly superior RPG than TFXIV? When you can have players that do multiple roles and get gear to do it and have different equipment and can actually do shit to support each other because they CHOSE what to do and their decisions actually change how they will play the game while communicating.
THEIR CHOICE. Not subhuman square enix devs giving you a binary yes no rotation and calling it a class. You and morons praising XIV are an embarrassment and always will be a shit stain in the MMORPG community.
Embarrassing post.
>Warzone is a vastly superior RPG
Actiblizz shills aren't even trying to hide it anymore...
>implying RPGs don't all have optimal rotation for optimal DPS
moron, it's all EXCEL tables when numbers are involved, your IQ must be under 70 to not grasp such an obvious concept
already answered this stupid assertion
Have they reached a phase where e-Scape plays yet?
There's no way the song just isn't in the fight right?
there's a decent chance that it's on the second last phase i reckon
if I had to make a prediction, the whole fight is probably going
>Beetle > MF > Final Omega > Omega Reboot > Dynamis MF > Dynamis Beetle > Alpha & Omega
so are people who don't raid TOPless? or are they all bottoms?
They need their world first to validate being stuck in their house 24/7
Majority of fights are hard scripted memory checks. ARR was the only time we had a significant amount of reactive gameplay instead of just memorizing autistic mechanics and hovering the mouse over debuffs to read a paragraph of description. It's hard, but it's not not a fun kind of hard and it's the reason I dropped raiding since Stormblood: getting a clear rarely felt like a display of skill, just persistence to wipe over and over until everyone jumped the rope correctly
I miss old school fights like Odin where the only difficulty was dodging AoEs and your healers not running out of mana/tanks not running out of CDs because the motherfricker hits like a truck
>somebody stole my orb
>he didn't do Barb ex
>ARR
>reactive
Just because servers were worse doesn't mean it was reactive.
>he doesn't know about coils
>he doesn't know about ramuh
>he doesn't know...
Pick a path through this raid to determine what the final boss will have.
KINO
KITE a monster using SLOW so that it is fed to this snake without giving it too much hp...
But don't KILL it, or it's a WIPE.
KINO!
LEASH and kite these OGRES to a good spot so everyone is not petrified...
KINO.
You had pure memory checks like Titan EX, but you also had attrition fights like Ramuh EX where memorizing mechanics never mattered, but how good you were at adapting and managing a resource
Reactive probably isn't the right term, but player agency felt better/more engaging back then
Ramuh, T2, T4, T5, A3S, A4S, A5S, A6S, A7S, A8S (especially adds), A9S, A11S, A12S all had some form of the party determining the fight structure/handling in a way more than just the movement strat used for a given mechanic pattern
This, like a lot.
People are like "hurr it's always been a dance" then homie why is it called COMBAT or RAIDING? You don't "raid" like FFXI's dynamis, you don't actually fight anything. It's all a fricking dance like musical chairs, better be standing here or there when the counter finishes or you die instantly. In combat you can take damage and recover (the entire point of, gee what are they called again? Oh yeah HEALERS) in a dance if you frick it up it's all over.
The settings of most games and fictional stories in general are usually complete shit, and Eorzea was included in that when it released, but it worked hard to make its story work and its setting endearing. I love the world and the lore, but the combat is irredeemable garbage that most people actively hate playing.
Barb is fun, unfortunately her one fight out of 30+ trials does not redeem all of the other shit trials. Even that still has gay Bop-It style minigames like "pair up", "playstation" and "mario kart" where you WILL instantly die if the server is in a bad mood and decides you got clipped. What the frick do playstation symbols have to do with a wind/hair warrioress? Or Omega? Why does Rubicante use the glowing paired circles too? Where's the thematic consistenty? Rubicante doesn't use something like Pyretic? Nymeia has "Seduction" mechanic, but Menphina the Goddess of LOVE does not? What the frick even is this
Omega's centaur mode looks dumb
If it really were as simple and easy as you pretend it is everyone would've beaten it the hour maintenance ended. In other words, OP sucks wieners.
The difficulty isn't even part of the discussion, moron-kun.
Are there any clips of statics fighting yet
moron here, are you actually supposed to coordinate buffs with the party somehow? I just press them the second they come off CD.
I have not done anything harder than extremes though.
You only coordinate if the boss jumps away
Everyone has two minute cooldowns so everyone is just gonna mash it off cooldown at the same exact time. You only hold if the boss is doing some WEIRD shit
the worst raid in WoW (Tomb of Sargeras) is what happened when WoW devs tried to make similar fights to FFXIV
everyone hated it
It doesn't work if your engine cannot handle it.
Wildstar raids were extremely similar to FFXIV Ultimates, they were so hard only 0.3% of the WoWfugee players even managed to do them.
The game then died because they put all of their development effort into making them as the defeated WoWgays retreated back to WoW.
Tomb of Sargeras had awful class stacking required to clear, which isn't really a thing in XIV
>it's memory of stand here then stand ther
i never understand how anyone can say this as some sort of criticism or complaint
like what are you saying?
literally think critically and explain exactly what it is you're trying to say, and you are saying it's bad
it's the age-old tactic of reducing a thing you don't like to the simplest terms to make it sound shitty. Examples:
>Pokemon is just clicking your super effective attack every battle
>FPS games are just click on head simulators.
>All you need to do to win at fighting games is mash random buttons.
Basically, OP is a wiener-slurping homosexual, but we all knew that.
his argument was reductive but it still highlights a design decision that the ffxiv devs have made that many people find boring and unfun
ffxiv fights and jobs are designed to be so safe and predictable that large periods of time in the middle of fights you can completely zone out with zero consequence
every single button press, movement and mechanic can be timed to the fraction of a second that once you complete a mechanic you can literally close your eyes and do the next ~15 seconds of your rotation without a care in the world
>You can enter a flow state while playing this game.
>This is a bad thing.
I hate nu-Ganker so goddamn much.
closing your eyes is the exact opposite of flow state
flow state is when a game throws too much information to be humanly processed at you but you are able to let it all slide off you and perform
Which is exactly what every PLD, NIN and GNB have to do because their rotation is so convoluted along with the 5 mechanics the boss throw at you at once you better have every key recorded in your muscle memory or you'll be a honorary DRG.
BLM is the same except seeing 10 seconds into the future. They're beyond mortal comprehension.
>that Black person thinks you can just TEN CHI JIN after every mechanic
Yeah he clearly doesn't play the same game
>ffxiv fights and jobs are designed to be so safe and predictable that large periods of time in the middle of fights you can completely zone out with zero consequence
You can't really do this at any point in either DSR or TOP, other than burn phases
When did i said i was saying something bad about the game? I try to understand if it's only bad for me or it's trully what everyone in the current time label as good gameplay.
>final omega has dragoon jump animations
Would be unbelievably based if a boss had mechanics based on party comp
They'd never do it though out of fear of hurting feelings
That would be based. I want to make Omega do chuuni BLM posing
I'm switching to melee after TOP, DRG or NIN?
NIN sounds fun but having to do NIN's burst when there's a mechanic during an even minute window sounds horrible. DRG is also cool but the animation lock sounds annoying as.
Which one do I choose? I've been playing this game for a very long time but never melee
nin is the most fun melee by far, it leans the most heavily into ffxivs job design
I think DRG is really comfortable to play but still challenging enough. You'll never lose a GCD from a chariot mechanic cause your GCD is so slow. NIN is fun too but there's a bit more optimising to do if you want your 99s.
DRG weapons are bigger so they are better
This. SAM, RPR and DRG are the only good melee DPS jobs.
SMN bros... SCH bros...
DRG ultimate weapons are so fricking shit
>Then don't use an ultimate weapon
No.
*blocks ur path*
>Gae Bolg
>Rhongomniant
>The Ultimate Omega Trident
>bad
shit taste to the extreme
Bros these phases are fricking boring. Where's the cool transformation? The summoning past bosses?
Congrats, you learned MMOs aren't about the gameplay.
Youre home.....
This shit happens in every game with a global chat. Pretending like these cretins are contained to one game isn't healthy.
That's Balmung Ul'dah shoutchat, it's full of simps, cat moms, and troons all trying to argue about who's the most of a leftist shithead in their containment zone. It's notorious for this.
>I chose to be healer this tier for this ultimate
>mfw watching prog
It's too late to change. Pray for me...
>I switched from healer to phys ranged for this ultimate
Winning
Loving life
Frick healing forever
Fight design peaked with this, you can't change my mind
no it peaked with o7s guardian
>uninstall a bunch of games from GoG from my computer
>suddenly XIV is having nonstop DirectX fatal errors and bluescreening my laptop
Let me die.
>tfw nobody knows how to fix this
It's all ogre, isn't it? I'm on windows 10, maybe updating to windows 11 will help.
You probably have to reinstall some redistributables.
Have you played the game?
DSR bros, how is TOP so far? I'm not starting it until next week
savage-tier mechanics until phase 3 but debuffs are assigned completely randomly and movement needs to be clean as frick
If the diificulty is back loaded, that's going to be really fricking annoying
mind you, phase 1 and 2 take less than 2 minutes each. they're execution + body checks even if the mechanics are simple on paper
The first mechanic is equivalent to thordan meteors or jagd dolls in terms of "you'll be progging this the entire fight"
Meteors were way worse than jagd dolls but yeah I see your point.
Meteors are only worse than jagd dolls if you're a tank or healer.
Yeah I was a healer for both
Then you basically didn't have to do jagd dolls.
Yeah but my static was a lot more consistent at jagd dolls than there were at meteors. Same people too
We'd never recruit a BLM to be honest
>Yeah but my static was a lot more consistent at jagd dolls than there were at meteors. Same people too
Then I hate to break it to you but your tanks and healers are probably shit.
>We'd never recruit a BLM to be honest
shit group honestly
i was a blm. i had to pick up my doll with f4, press f1, then other people had to finish it for me because any spell, even a f1, could crit and kill it.
bro your scathe? why are dps so braindead on jagd doll
>applying a dot
>letting your healer apply a dot
>pressing shitty ranged attack to lower HP slightly
hell
>waiting for an auto to drop the doll from 25 to 24%
utterly baffles me that most dps did not have a plan for dolls other than "i keep pressing my combo rotation and cry when i crit". i fricking loved critting the doll because it just meant i could feed it faster/swap targets
meteors didnt have crit rng bullshit
>they add RNG tank busters that can happen in-between big mechanics instead of the boss just doing filler autos
what changes?
Nothing.
nothing because then they have to account for cooldown availability for big mechanics and at worst a healer loses a damage GCD
Everything. I still remember how homosexuals cried when the boss crit an auto. Priceless.
Tank invulns it, fight continues as normal. If invulns cheese is needed later the offtank does it.
RNG is not the answer gays seem to think it is. Neither is build variety, cus that shit would just get minmaxed out (see: blue mage).
nice botting detection
Lalafells share one braincell
God damn, that's a lot of bots.
skill expression via RNG is a meme for games where unavoidable damage exists because either everything has to be normalized to ensure a set amount of resources will always be able to get through an entire fight, or all damage has to be avoidable and in that case you're just avoiding the telegraphed bad circles at the end of the day, especially for an MMO where servers wouldn't be able to handle 120 players playing at the pace of DMC4 turbo dante against one little world boss. even PSO2 has a shitty tickrate iirc
If the fight is designed so you can barely scrap through it by sheer force of will, having a bad RNG ruin a run that took you 20 minutes of peak performance to get to said memeteorng wipe is clearly an insane choice for a developer to make.
It is fricking funny in raids though, seeing people wipe left and right to Thunderchad Cid is pure gold.
the problem with your example is that the fight is 20 minutes long, not that rng could make one pull harder than another
If it is a 20 minutes fight you don't want the RNG to be the deciding factor to players failing and having to start from scratch again.
In less serious shit like Puppet's Bunker or The Masked Carnivale you can go wild.
Think of it from the POV of Smash Autists and wave dashing.
i agree with you there, im just saying the solution is to make the fight shorter not cut out all of the rng and turn it into a boring test of rote memorization
the point of ultimates is that they're a gauntlet
moronic take but okay.
I just remembered the world first race for WoW's latest mythic and how every team was getting stuck at around 50-60% and it was basically just a puzzle and as soon as it was solved after several days, the rest went by pretty quickly
I know Blizzard employs tactics typically used by casinos and lottery shit, but are the drones seriously that fried they need bossfights to be a fricking slot machine spin too?
Keep in mind the vast majority of WoW mechanics are just "boss does a bunch of damage to random target," "boss puts random AOEs down," "boss spawns adds that need to be kited around," etc. and the only difficulty to them is reacting to the RNG quickly.
If they didn't randomly target then it would be pretty braindead, keep in mind this is a game where LFG got filtered by literally just a wild charge mecahnic with nothing else happening.
WoW mechanics can be resumed to don't stand on the fire. It's a pretty shit engine really they can't do better
>keep in mind this is a game where LFG got filtered by literally just a wild charge mecahnic with nothing else happening.
i wanna see this
I don't remember the fight but I remember my friend b***hing about some raid and then he linked me a diagram. It was just "split the raid into 3 groups for a wild charge" and that was it.
I wanna see this too, is this some top tier group from that game?
Seems entertaining
Echo doing DSR blind was pretty entertaining to watch, not what that anon is talking about though
>need bossfights to be a fricking slot machine spin too?
WoWBlack folk literally froth at the mouth for the next 0.2% drop chance mount to get added, what do you think?
I quit back when I got tired of hoping for a 3% trinket in a brain-dead "heroic" raids that were easier than leveling was in other MMOs.
It's a fricking scam they give you such shit drops in weekly lockouts just as an excuse to keep you running in that mouse wheel paying a sub.
Was looking at Samurai's combos just now. Does a class really need like five different combos
>Panthean Corselet of Maiming is really cool
>Have to grind Aglaia over and over again to get it
Hate this shit
>not just doing it to see the waifus
Azeyma is my deity, don't want to keep beating her up!
She enjoys it!
Your deity is showing her panties to everyone.
Imagine the smell
I wish people made more nice things like this and less lewd.
should go with me. i swear a full set of maiming drops every run i do. got my 1 healer piece, the first one that dropped, on my 8th run this week
Aglaia is so easy
Swap between DRG and RPR for variety
Its not about the difficulty, its about the pain to grind the raid until the maiming top drops. I might even have to roll against another DRG or RPR.
Yeah there are a lot of shitter RPRs out there still...for now
They dropped off since launch, thank god
im a filthy casual that woke up at 5am est yesterday to prog all day. literally had lucid dreams about practicing the mechanics. no other game has done this to me. its incredibly addictive
You might me a bigger masochist than me.
haha yea im a schizo, but i have p1 on perfect lockdown and can explain mechanics to morons in one sentence. progging in your sleep is the real prostrat
did they find out what the awaken mechanic was yet
anyone have any clips of phase 4?
>trannimate
I think it's funny that homestuck is simultaneously of the opinion that RNG aoes are moronic and archaic, and also angry at the assertion that FFXIV doesn't have them. Never change you pathetic little rat. Keep wondering why people call us cultists when you gnash your teeth nightly at the slightest criticism.
well said, it was a fun discussion while it lasted atleast
>opinion that RNG aoes
Oh so NOW excluding the word "completely" is totally acceptable. Double talking double Black person, like so many others.
I haven't been part of this convo, I've been in PotD. That place does have actual complete randomness by the way, and you could have used it in your argument if you ever stepped off Pearl Lane and played the game.
No anon, there's plenty of RNG in the game, it's just a WoWgay trying to pretend everything in XIV is choreographed and static and Ulduar was the best MMO design ever even when presented with evidence that he's fricking insane.
Dicksucker woulda just said "that's not p5s-p8s" anon. This is why keeping up with the Convo is important, cus now you look like a fool.
Almost had Necro btw, 179 and set off a spawning trap.
so many biofems are progging TOP on the pf, its kind of shocking. every group ive been in has had 1-3 of them
If Zepla can get carried through DSR, any girl can do TOP
Zepla's team hasn't even been able to clear p1, and I gotta say it's quite funny seeing them struggle so hard, especially after Zepla went on to say how current savage tier is ez and she would like a new difficulty tier between savage and ultimate.
But overall I don't think FFXIV is a game where women are at an disadvantage. It's a pretty even playing field.
Is it the same team as the DSR one? Cause that static was so shit carried by one guy who was very good.
Guess the Glamour chasers truly are the master race.
Are there any thigh high boots that aren't the 2B ones? Those make your character's legs look too skinny
all 3 grand companies have thighboots iirc
Scion Healer Boots if you wanna paypig
uhhhhh
the final Nier raid has good ones for RPR/DRG and all the tanks
hmmm
you could also paypig the angel or devil outfit for the boots
replica sky pirate boots
ishgardian thightboots from the gold saucer but they're kind of ugly imo
Expeditioner's
Plenty of sabatons
A lot of various leveling gear pieces for pretty much every role
I wouldn't even know where to start anon, there's shitload of thigh highs besides the Nier ones, the Nier ones are popular because they are the only ones that give you a nice ass.
these are the expeditioner's thighboots dyed gunmetal black
Thank you, GlamourGODs
>FFXIV has a George Floyd emote.
>those debuffs
Reminds me of my first run in the Dead Ends
delicious
Excelent thigh/spats tease
what pants are those please respond
former seasonal. now its cash shop
>please respond
lmao
the scion healer set with Yshtola's hairstyle in the store has identical spats with a different name if you want that to get hair and an outfit too.
The forbidden fruit... or whatever a potato is...
Man I wish those fox masks that healers and casters get from the PvP gear was available to SAM and NIN.
Its fricking perfect...
the summer event had the moogle/namazu/black moogle masks
use those if you still have them or paypig for being new
Nah I have those, they just don't work in my opinion cause they're too "festival" if you can understand my autism.
ive been saying forever that armor types are an archaic mechanic that serves no purpose
job artifact armor sets should be the only limited use glams
Is there any low fantasy armour for SAM? I don't really like overdesigned sets.
is this too much for you?
Genji
ARR is mostly low fantasy/reserved as far as gear goes, but it's also not really geared towards SAM
I hope you didn't miss Heavensturn because the armor won't be able to be bought until next year lol
>low fantasy SAM
>not going high tech SAM
ISHYGDDTOIWGAKYCFR
Its too bad the dyeable version of the Fuma Koromo is NIN exclusive.
Oh wait there is. Prestige Fuma Koromo is the SAM version, try that
What's the best bawd glam?
Level 80 monk AF + nopan
Not to bag on the anon who just asked, but I don't get how people get into FFXIV but don't like crazy armor and weapons designs. It's Final fricking Fantasy, the games' have been infamous for literal decades for having ridiculous over-the-top character designs. You should know what you're getting into by cultural osmosis alone.
I can't have skirts for my NIN glam cause the battle stance is too shameful
try casting any BLU spell with a skirt on
Holy shit why is the raid still not done? Isn't this game supposedly easy?
It's supposed to not be in WoW's level. We know in WoW it would take 2 weeks at least. XIV raids only take 1 or 1 1/2 days to do their Ultimates. No way the raid is that hard.
You got it backwards, Ultimates are the hardest content in any MMO, far harder than Mythics.
How can it be hard when Ultimates can be done in hours? There's a reason why no WoW players has said that XIV ultimates are harder. Not one.
Wow players can't clear ult raids while they're relevant
Wow has gear checks. Its why it takes longer, only reason
Limit Maximum stopped playing XIV because he said the raids were too easy. Remember that.
You mean the guy who got filtered by normal mode raids he'd already cleared before?
? He solved all the raids on his own. It was pretty impressive to see him easily do it as well. I mean, that's the reason why he's considered the best raid leader in the MMO space.
Just watch this video.
Oh that fake video. Yeah I already saw that. It was an obvious bait video just to tarnish Max's rep.
>fake video
He outright posts proof that Max is a liar, nice try though
low quality bait
>? He solved all the raids on his own
It took his group 8 fricking hours to clear normal mode Eden's Gate while overgeared lmao
>fake
I just watched and this guy is very clearly acting and putting on a show.
I've seen enough of these fake streamer homosexuals for any platform and any game to know that this guy isn't legit.
He's literally a basedjack.
Fricking commiefornians I swear
>? He solved all the raids on his own.
Neat, how long did it take his group to clear TEA again? His group of 7 XIV veterans mind you
>tarnish max's rep
His reputation's is in shambles because he's dogshit.
How do you get 5th in a 2 man race?
you mean these guys?
>elv ui in xiv
this is how you easily spot wow players
I'll remember if you show me a single clear of ultimate from him while it was still relevant (3 months)
Where is it?
It doesn't exist. They got filtered by Asphodelos savage.
It was fun seeing the difference in mindsets between them and Echo
>filtered by Aspho
That was the first raid tier I did HC week 1 and it was ezpz
Are they serious?
they cleared p4s before echo but they weren't doing it blind
I think anon meant they were filtered by the fact they, like echo said they were doing it blind ,but max cheated his team out of it or some shit, doubled down initially screaming cultist when caught out and then basically owning up to it and screaming cultist anyway.
>being an actual pro at your class could clutch a win for shitter raid groups
yeah im sure a modern mmo being balanced for that wouldnt be the most minmaxed thing ever and with an entire raid full of people capable of clutching that win with optimised builds i cant help but wonder how shit easy said raids would be. (we do kind of have an answer for that in classic wow but yeah)
>he said the raids were too easy.
>cleared no ultimates while they were remotely relevant.
Lol.
Echo took 6 months to clear DSR. They're one of the leading guilds in World First races in WoW.
They took 6 fricking months in FFXIV, it was fun to watch them though, like watching chimpanzees discover fire
practice your larp in a discord server a few times before taking to the field
>worlo: 2 weeks of splits to farm ilvl
>ziv: 2 weeks of wiping on 1 tightly tuned boss
we are not the same
Yea wow is mostly about gear checks and run away little girl.
Gameplay itself is even more brain-dead than anything in XIV, just ADHD fueled.
Wowtroon, work on your shitposting
They weren't kidding when they said the raid would be all Omega
P1: Omega
P2: Omega-M and Omega-F
P3: Final Omega
P4: Final Omega (recharged)
P5: Golden Omega-M and Golden Omega-F
P6: Alpha Omega (pic related)
There's goldem M and F?
6 phases?
ignore the F legs
That's just the lighting, the weapons are different but the actual models are still encrypted.
moron
moron
see
The actual models for the phase are encrypted, you cannot datamine them, this was noted and put into an alert early on day 1. People thought it was fricking weird because the actual final model had been spotted in the closing scene.
moron
>encrypted
I wish our own characters' animations were as fluid as these ones
Please don't be like DSR, that shit took too long to prog....
pretty sure every ult is an ~18min fight on release
I know but DSR was significantly harder than the previous three and took me much longer to clear.
There's no obnoxious cutscenes I think, but all ultimates are 18 minute fights.
UWU was definitely shorter than 18 minutes, even during SB
Proof?
There was a Golden Final Omega picture 2 days ago, there's also normal Alpha Omega and Golden Alpha Omega
Are you shitting me? Just how many phases this fight has? 8?
okay i was wrong about Golden Alpha Omega. But here's Golden Final
>Still on P1 enrage
It's over. Also, I will coom once eScape drops in a later phase.
You know what it is?
It probably splits into M&F and warps forms on the final phase while charging up with Dynamis to turn gold
Pyros or Hydatos bunnies?
Any Anon just pick one please
Is black glam too cliche for NINs? What colour should be NIN glam be themed around?
You can't go wrong, except Orange
Glam pieces so that I can look like a stereotypical party ninja costume?
There's a set in the 50-60 range from HW that is just a super plain NIN set
check the MB, I remember it's crafted
This one?
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearset/rainbow-scouting
yeah that one
The one you're thinking of can also be bought from the vendor in the main HW city
Purple
>dude just remember things lmao
Armchair raiders are the funniest
Don't forget anon, Zero is staying with us forever.
And that's a good thing.
*tips fedora*
So where is my Ryne then?
If it's for Endwalker only, Varshan would be there too.
if you chalk up "doing mechanics" to "just stand there" then idk man you're probably moronic
Also, you never even explain what other "interactions" you could have are, there aren't exactly other games like this and those are similar do exactly the same shit, what are you gonna do, heal it to death?
>ziv does not have kino world first races that actually matters like WoW
>limit max has all of webm related because he is the best raider in wow and zix
world races in ziv are a joke. wow is actually more entertaining than some trannies pretending to have skill
How is a guy who hasn't cleared any ultimates without guides, dungeon gear, expansion powercreep, and 7 people carrying him the best XIV raider? Might as well say Rich is the best WoW raider with that logic
god imagine the smell
must be worse than a smash tournament
>Lost the last two races despite having a fricking 8 hours advantage every single time
lmao
So this is the power of a group that took 8 hours to clear story mode content in XIV... woah...
Pushing for world first race to be a huge esport event hurt the actual raid scene because everything had to be overtuned to drag the whole affair for as long as possible.
Sponsored split runs, consumable costs going through the roof to sell wow tokens. It all adds up and negatively affects people who actually play the game at any level below full time job commitment who should matter more than the ecelebs and their backseat circlejerk on twitch.
Why do these fricking videos piss me off so much? Is it the brazen inefficiency of having a fricking dog and a bunch of goof off rooms in a corporate environment? Or is it the inherit smugness of the narcissist pieces of shit who make these videos to try and flaunt how cushy their job they're gonna get laid off from in 6 months is? Or is this just a monkey baby situation where I just have unbridled hate for a specific thing for no immediately apparent reason?
anon i get where you're coming from but that one in particular is for the overfunded WoW world first race stuff that's used for like two weeks at best before it gets packed up and left in a warehouse for 8 months
>spend a tonne of money on guild office space
>get beaten by some unknown guild that is just better at the game
Imagine being the sponsors for this, imagine legitimately caring enough about world firsts where this is impressive to you, imagine actually caring about being the very first person to clear a dungeon in a video game
Just tuned in. This looks like a visual mess, how do people stare at this for hours?
Show clear
So how many phases in TOP
Does anyone find this genuinely fun? To me it looks extremely boring. Its basically like trying to climb an ice mountain. You eventually reach the peak, but 99% of the time you keep sliding back to the start point, and have to go again. It gets boring so fast, as its the same fricking mountain, nothing is changing.
Savage is too easy
DSR was the ultimate I didn't find fun, but it was because it felt too long, had too many phases.
doing the first phases over and over again isnt fun. but learning new mechanics and getting hte dopamine brain injections every new part feel good
>keep two streams of friends who raid TOP 12h a day
>both groups constantly wipe on Pantokrator for 2 days straight with occasional p2 prog
Doing this kind of content semi blind before normalized strats are discovered is absolutely miserable. The time sink is just too big for anyone who doesn't actively race for world first clears.
It's the same kind of joy you'd get from exploring unknown lands.
From being the one setting the trail.
Solving a puzzle no one has solved before, it's fun. Just like finishing a game without looking up a guide.
They end up copying strats since they are so far behind.
At the end of the day it's a collosal waste of time with none of trailblazing thrill.
Yeah, I think starting slightly later is a better use of your time. If you're not a racer of course
That's why I'm waiting until after next raid tier to start progging it
Jumping in right away is a huge waste of time before actual good strats are devised because yeah, you eventually just copy whoever's ahead of you because you're so far behind
You only need to wait 1 or 2 weeks for strats, why wait 4 months to do it
because I'm busy irl right now anyways
my static went radio silent before christmas when some people were done with reclears since mains were BiS so I have to find another group for normal savage
I dunno how Arthars can do DSR and TOP as NIN, wouldn't his old man hands get carpal tunnel or something
NIN APM isn't that high and it's a fixed rotation with no RNG
Its not that bad, I play BRD and the APM is very similar.
NIN hasn't hurt my hands since 5.1
NIN isn't that crazy
If you said MNK or AST I might understand a bit more
It feels like I have little time to think cause of the fast GCD, compared to DRG where I feel like I got all the time in the world
I dunno how people can listen to him speak, especially his Japanese, and not get ear bleeds
>Leading team is at p4
I suppose TOP will die on the weekend?
p4 is 6 minutes in, ultimates are 18-20 minutes
Wrong, P4 is 8 minutes in
P3 enrage is 8 minutes and 10 seconds
Arthars team has color coded roles
Kino?
Its not just kino but its practical. I would recommend never changing glam during ultimate prog cause your static members will recognise your character visually for mechanics.
EVERYONE IS FORGETTING ABOUT THE OMEGA SPACESHIP.
Also, golden mf are part of the fi al phase, they aren't their own phase.
>proof?
It was revealed to me in an echo flashback.
>It was revealed to me in an echo flashback.
cheeky c**t
Where are the TOP guides?
There are already guides for P1.
TLDR: Don't use gorgon prio for the towers, it leads to confusion.
Where are the strats found?
The Balance Discord.
I hope the female hrothgar are sexy and wear hats and that they patch male hrothgar to wear headgear.
That's literally all MMO fights.
Damn, this is even more boring than Thordan. Alexander was the last good Ultimate.
>P4 is final omega again
This ultimate is fricking boring.
>P4 Omega is slowly falling apart after every mechanic
This ultimate is fricking cool.
Please understand, they had to make Forspoken
How to fix?
You cannot fix perfection
>AMAZON VICTORIA SECRET MODELS
i TAKE THAT BACK
How comfy can it be to hug the tall thick chick race?
Until your options aren't just the same 6 templates, it won't be fixed
Remove them from the game
What is the last phase like. More exaflares in Kefka trine flavor?
It'll be a simplistic phase just like the other ones.
most likely similar to UWU and TEA where it's a whole thing full of trio mechanics, based on some datamined animations
pillars
>Nidhogg phase again
>Alpha Omega even has a dragoon jump animation
God fricking dammit
No way they it's nidhogg again but now with side pillars.
>introduce wire cutting mechanic for Criterion dungeon
>don't use it for the robot ultimate
ONE JOB
KINO
FFXIV raids are the most boring raids of all time. Literally just Dance Dance Revolution. MMOs were more fun when classes had a bazillion skills and being an actual pro at your class could clutch a win for shitter raid groups, especially if you were a god tier healer.
If you can win a shit raid by simply healing then that means the raid mechanics never mattered.
Also, it doesn't matter if you have a bazillion skills because in the end there will be an optimal rotation which is mathematically proven to be the way to play properly.
You just need to be smarter to understand proper design, your brain is clearly too small to understand what's actually happening.
>Also, it doesn't matter if you have a bazillion skills because in the end there will be an optimal rotation which is mathematically proven to be the way to play properly.
This is your brain on modern metagay ridden MMOs. I bet you've never even seen skills with 1hr+ CD that don't get reset on death/relog. Plenty older MMOs were all about knowing your class and having a wide range highly situational skills that could change everything, not a small toolkit that you endlessly spam like an ADHD homosexual while dancing like a little Japanese princess.
Blackwing lair was cleared in like 25 minutes in classic, Anon, i feel you, your way of mmo is exactly the type of mmo i want to play, but its not the type of mmos that can exist anymore in the age of information.
You're a moron stuck in the past
like
said, your little fantasy doesn't exist anymore in the information age
this shit is prevalent in everything from single player RPGs like Elden Ring to FPS games with meta loadouts
Get with the times dumb frick
Oh I'm aware those golden days of MMOs are over, and all you'll ever get is a buildless, brainless pseudo-MMO. Now show me your meta-dance boy, you paid your 15 bux for the month now dance with your trannies
>dumb frog poster
xiv combat is fun for a different niche anon, theres a reason both fighting game and rhythm game autists love it.
XIV just confirmed Hyadain did the Rubicante trial theme.
https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_JP/status/1618522621162950656?t=W1nVEHQETgui9tBmGGW3Yw&s=19
Absolutely based.
Goodnight, Anons. Have some kitty feets.